The Moon - Who put it there?

[teslafire]

http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/939moonsmall.jpg
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=939

[kerravon]

It has been suggested that the moon is an artificially built structure. It is the only moon known not to fit it to the usually moon profile, as far as distance from a planetary body.

I cannot confirm this, but also many of the apollo astronauts (if they even went there) reported drilling down several inches and hitting a hard (titanium like) surface which could not be penetrated.

Who built this is a good question, and if it's hollow, what's inside?

[chattanova]

Hollow moon theory originated during seismological tests on the moon following the Lunar landings. This occured most notably in November 1969 after seismometers were set up on the moons surface by the astronauts of Apollo XII.

When the Lunar module had taken off, heading back to earth the astronauts discarded the ascent stage of the lunar module, dropping it on the moons surface, smashing the craft and creating a tremor that was picked up by the seismometers and when the NASA scientists heard the data stream, they couldn’t believe what they were hearing.

The moon was ringing like a bell and continued to do so for around an hour. After they had had a chance to analyse the seismological information, NASA declared that the moon seemed to be a hollow sphere with a metallic layer around 34-40 metres deep.

[lookfar]

Fascinating subject, which I heard of a while ago & would like to learn more about...

Artificially built for what purpose??? Just had a thought (& excuse me for being a bit tipsy on Leffe beer, but it is Friday night, LOL!!)... does it all tie into the matrix situation I wonder, like somehow holding us here, hmmm maybe it's another avenue to explore...or not???:confused:

[jinjo5]

Hollow moon theory originated during seismological tests on the moon following the Lunar landings. This occured most notably in November 1969 after seismometers were set up on the moons surface by the astronauts of Apollo XII.

When the Lunar module had taken off, heading back to earth the astronauts discarded the ascent stage of the lunar module, dropping it on the moons surface, smashing the craft and creating a tremor that was picked up by the seismometers and when the NASA scientists heard the data stream, they couldn’t believe what they were hearing.

The moon was ringing like a bell and continued to do so for around an hour. After they had had a chance to analyse the seismological information, NASA declared that the moon seemed to be a hollow sphere with a metallic layer around 34-40 metres deep.
I read a book a long time ago,cant remember what it was called,about the moon being basically hollow.
what bothers me is why would NASA 'declare' something of that magnitude
but denounce seemingingly lesser things like Astronauts seeing lights on their trips to the moon.
If the moon was hollow,wouldnt it have been one the greatest things ever discovered.
Cant remember it being on the news.

[wideawake]

The moon is made of cheese:mad: jeez please don't spoil my childhood illusion:rolleyes:

Seriously though.. What is the big deal about the moon? It's a facinating peice of equipment.

What do you mean who bulit it:confused: It is a very powerful substance and we all get drawn to it in one way or another.

The moon also draws womens periods in too. And has anyone ever been mad on a full moon?:mad:

[jinjo5]

The moon is made of cheese:mad: jeez please don't spoil my childhood illusion:rolleyes:

Seriously though.. What is the big deal about the moon? It's a facinating peice of equipment.

What do you mean who bulit it:confused: It is a very powerful substance and we all get drawn to it in one way or another.

The moon also draws womens periods in too. And has anyone ever been mad on a full moon?:mad:
Just realized mate you maybe taking the mick.
but whatever,the moon affects everyone.
......................AAARRGH....THE MOON ....im changing............;)

[lookfar]

The moon is made of cheese:mad: jeez please don't spoil my childhood illusion:rolleyes:

Seriously though.. What is the big deal about the moon? It's a facinating peice of equipment.

What do you mean who bulit it:confused: It is a very powerful substance and we all get drawn to it in one way or another.

The moon also draws womens periods in too. And has anyone ever been mad on a full moon?:mad:

Ah wideawake don't worry, I'm sure the cheese theory has some substance... but maybe not in a good way... I heard today something about dairy produce having some Moloch connections, but need to read Matt Delooze's new book to find out more info...!! I can't wait to read it...

Yes the moon has a powerful effect on us, that's why it makes me wonder if there is more to it's presence than what we currently accept???

[midwich cuckoo]

If there was no moon then quite probably there would be no life as we know it on the Earth. Also there would be no seasons.

[wideawake]

You probably already know this but the moon controlls the ocean/sea

[king]

actually, i know a bit about this one;

in one my past lives i was apprentice mechanic on our draco2012 space ship. I was hired to do all those dirty jobs in ship's engine room that we have those people from poor countries do in say in more advanced nations nowadays.

But, at 6.66 dracolars pay per a travel-year -- that was lot more than i could made in lifetime on my native planet Mars, not to mention that we were fucking up our planet's atmosphere really good.
So, it was time to move on anyways.
Well, after i got recruited by reptilian Draco Space Force -- i figured that this would be my chance to get some higher education and security clearance than could help in one of the many future jobs that we all had to go through.


After all, being a certified draco slave was not so bad, lot better than those Zeta Rectumulians overlords of the universe, our true enemy. <shivers and respect>
I was happy that i was working for the good guys anyways.
Hey, our microchip implants had lot more features anyways. 34000 download channels vs 28000 download channels! yey!

so, while our ship was towing that darn moon thing that was attached to our draco-starship, me and my buddy who were on duty in the engine room had little too much to drink of that soma-beer.
well, next thing we know, we hit a wrong button and we lost the pressure in tail section of our ship.

so, just like good drunks would do -- we tried to rectify the problem by pushing yet another wrong button.
it turned out that we accidentaly ejected one of the escepe capsules that was set to manual override, and that capsule hit the really long chain that was attached to the moon.
so, next thing we know -- chain broke and moon started floating away from us.

we decided that is was best thing not to tell to our ship captain what happen. we figured that if we did tell what happened -- he would fry our arses immediately, as it it usually done.
well, darn, we forgot that he had an "idiot lght" in his ship, so he knew when we lost that moon thingy.
well, just like a good captain of draco ship would do -- he decided to tell on us, so he can save his ass..

so, we got arrested and next thing we know -- our asses were deported to the soilent green factory....

oh, i forgot to mention, the reason Stewart Swerdlow knows that 'moon is a ship" is because he was that other drunk asshole who got me in trouble anyways.

that is why i decided to write a book "I am me, I am free"

:lol:

[fantana]

Ok Dummies



OUR ENIGMATIC MOON by N. Huntley, Ph.D.

(December, 2005)

N. Huntley, Ph.D.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the Moon is not what it appears; that it is not just another satellite orbiting a planet, Earth, but an entity which has thrown the minds of some of the greatest thinkers and scientific brains into a quandary and bewilderment unprecedented in the history of astronomy. Why haven't you heard about this? Another government cover-up? How could Moon mysteries have anything to do with government secrecy, and moreover could it relate to the suppression of the space programme?

Let us outline some of the extraordinary anomalies and mysteries surrounding this puzzle. Clearly not all data will be equally reliable but the abundance of interrelated information nevertheless gives an overall picture which can be determined with some certainty. The first academic enigma must surely be that the Moon is apparently in its wrong orbit for its size. However, this would presumably be based on its assumed density. Technical reports claim a density of 3.3 for the Moon compared with 5.5 for Earth. Astronomy data indicates that the internal regions of the Moon are less dense than the outer, giving rise to the inevitable but outrageous speculation that it could be hollow. The eminent scientist Carl Sagan, a typical sceptic, made the statement, 'A natural satellite cannot be a hollow ob-ject'. But meaning here that if it is hollow, it is not a natural satellite---and therefore artificial.

Possibly the strongest evidence for it to be a 'hollow ob-ject' comes from the fact that when meteors strike the Moon, the latter rings like a bell. More specifically when the Apollo crew in November 20, 1969 released the lunar module, after returning to the orbiter, the module impact with the Moon caused their seismic equipment to register a continuous reverberation like a bell for more than an hour. The same effect occurred with Apollo 13's third stage which caused the Moon to ring for over three hours. So what's going on with the Moon?

Two Soviet scientists, Vasin and Shcherbokov, have spent much of their careers examining the facts compiled on lunar phenomena. Their conclusion is that the Moon is artificial, possibly a hollowed-out planet, and that it was steered from some distant region of the galaxy into a circular orbit around our planet (hence the extraordinary mystery of rock and Moon-dust age variations). They claim that intellectual life has existed in the Moon for eons.

In 1968 as Apollo 8 moved into orbit around the Moon, the astronauts spotted a colossal extraterrestrial ob-ject, which then had disappeared on the next orbit. Photographs were taken, of course, but not released to the public. On another occasion when the lunar excursion module was down to 4-5 miles from the Moon's surface astronauts witnessed a UFO suddenly rise from a crater and rapidly disappear. In 1969 Aldrin was checking the lunar surface from orbit, when two UFOs appeared, moved towards the Apollo rocket, hovered nearby, then to Aldrin's utter astonishment the UFOs joined to form one entity. Furthermore, astronauts of Apollo 11 saw a spacefleet of UFOs lined up in a crater. Almost every Moon mission involved encounters with UFOs or UFO sightings, not to mention the discovery of many bases on the Moon's surface. Renowned astronomer Patrick Moore discovered over one hundred dome-like buildings. In fact, about one thousand such bases, dome-like structures of diameter around 700 feet, have been witnessed. Astronomy records extending back 200 years indicate no such artifacts until about the 1950s (remember the book Alternative III?). Many of the UFO encounters by the astronauts were stated to be of a positive nature in which unintrusive assistance was given.

It has been found that asteroids and meteors not only create shallow craters on the Moon's surface but produce a convex floor to the crater instead of concave as expected, supporting the idea of a rigid shell. Countless other pieces of evidence from astronomers and NASA scientists began to reveal that some 2-3 miles down there appear to be dense layers of metal---which would explain why the craters were convex. But the most astonishing conclusion is that the only theory which can completely explain all the anomalies is that the Moon is hollow with a shell about 20 miles thick---mostly metal. Note that mascons (higher concentrations of mass) found in the marias cause fluctuations in gravity and have never been satisfactorily explained.

Moreover, these structural anomalies were supported by two publications, one Time Magazine, which unwittingly revealed the gravity value of the Moon relative to Earth by publishing the distance from Earth to Moon of the null point between them, indicating a gravitational force some 60 -70 % of Earth. Furthermore, some people noticed the feeble plumage of the rocket exhaust as the module rose from the Moon's surface---explained away by NASA as due to the vacuum. But what about some of the telltale and suspicious features observed during the first Armstrong and Aldrin Moon landing. The American flag was seen briefly to wave in ... a breeze? But we are told there is no air on the Moon. The flag was then starched. Also we saw dust kicked up by the astronauts clearly drifting in . . . what? Dust particles do not drift in vacuum---they cling together. And what about the feeble leaps of the astronauts off the Moon's surface---were their spacesuits and backpacks really so heavy? The Moon is supposed to be about one-sixth the gravity of Earth.

Thus we now know that air is present, and the feeble rocket exhaust could not be due to a vacuum. Moreover, the exhaust was apparently too weak to account for the necessary power to escape from such a gravitational pull in relationship to the size of the module, which was not large enough to contain the necessary fuel to escape the Moon's high gravity. Was antigravity propulsion secretly being used as a booster?

The covert government have long since sent 'astronauts' into outer space in antigravity spacecrafts. They apparently had the so-called cosmospheres about 40 years ago, some larger than the old and massive dirigibles. They seized the antigravity research data from the Nazis, and have since then reverse-engineered captured spacecrafts and negotiated deals with aliens involving antigravity technologies.

The more thorough have been the investigations of the Moon the more bizarre the results have been. Probably one of the most startling was that moonquakes occurred like clockwork. Moreover, the fluctuations on each occasion were the same. This is impossible for natural conditions which always obey fractal distributions. Furthermore, a study of rock samples reveal an age of 5.3 billion years, and that not only is the Moon older than the Earth, estimated to be about 4.6 billion years, but that it is older than the solar system (and by theoretical standards as old as the universe).

What about the surface of the Moon? Several television viewers wrote explaining that they spotted one of the astronauts pick up what appeared to be a glass bottle and remark, 'My God, I don't believe it, look at this . .. ' Then the television screen went blank. Other viewers observed the extreme difficulty astronauts had when drilling down a few inches into the Moon's marias and that when the drill bit was pulled out, metal shavings were visible. Rocks were found to contain brass, mica, titanium, and elements uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 not previously found in nature.

Astronomy literature reports the sighting of a 12-mile bridge-like structure over the Sea of Crisis in 1954 by John O'Neile, and in the 1950s astronomer Jessup realised that UFOs had bases on the Moon (and so does the government of course). Other strange lunar phenomena are: the observation by Dr. Frank Harris of a black body on the surface, 250 miles long and 50 miles wide; clouds and lightning; strange moving shadows and ob-jects, and spire-like structures thousands of feet high; a huge boulder with tracks (behind it) from inside a crater to the rim (uphill); the shrinking, over a period of time, of the crater Luna from six miles in diameter to one and a half miles; 'hill' effects in craters appearing and disappearing in a few hours; over 800 substantial observations made by scientists of blinking and flaashing lights; the results of NASA photographs of the lunar surface, indicating several large pyramid structures, strange rifts in the surface with entrances, massive girders, machinery and some 1000 kilometre blocks of metal, tears in the surface, revealing massive interior 'plumbing', huge crosses a mile long, and enormous excavating equipment. Professional astronomers have gradually been discouraged from investigating these observations, referred to as Transient Lunar Phenomena, and all such Fortean observations are now only of interest to the amateur.

Our satellite has long since been established as being extremely dry but this information has been contradicted by the appearance of clouds on the surface. On one occasion a cloud of water vapour appeared covering more than 100 square miles. And it has been reported that strange clouds appear at lightning speed. The capture theory that the Moon was pulled into its orbit by the Earth was once favoured but the circular orbit of the Moon invalidated it. As already mentioned the Moon is the wrong size and in the wrong orbit. It is too big and too far out. It does not rotate relative to Earth; the same side always faces the Earth. And what about the amazing 'coincidence' of the eclipse phenomenon. The position and size of the Moon is precisely that necessary to eclipse the Sun's disc.

Scientific experts, including NASA investigators believe that the Moon is hollow---it is the only explanation. The velocity of sound has been found to increase with depth and at 40 miles it is too fast for the speed of propagation through rock substance. 'Spaceship Moon' is the brainchild of the two Soviet researchers but many others agree with the theory, including NASA scientists at JPL and an Oxford University physicist. The capture theory is now back in favour but with a significant adjustment that the Moon was steered into orbit.

It might be worth a comment on the recent 'conspiracy theory' that astronauts never actually went to the Moon. DVDs and television programmes have proffered that, in particular, photographs allegedly taken on the Moon were faked. In fact one can see clearly in the photographs that the shadows of ob-jects on the Moon were not parallel as they would be if the shadows were cast by the Sun, rather than by studio lighting. Further evidence has been given. But we may know from earlier suspicions that NASA has a propensity for faking scenes---for example, the view of the interior of the shuttle faking an outer-space mission when actually on the ground. Thus the conclusion, and personal opinion of the author, is that both scenarios are correct: astronauts did land on the Moon, and NASA has produced faked photographs.

Was the space programme cut because further encounters with UFOs might blow the government cover-up? Even more important than this, allowing the public to increase their confront and interest in the subject of extraterrestrials would eventually lead to a worldwide awakening of the human race's true heritage, the causes of our downfall, the falsification of our history, and ultimately the disclosure and eradication of the control mechanism.

We see that the Moon mysteries are intimately bound up with extraterrestrial sightings and involvement, in particular, the conclusion of the two Russian scientists that the Moon is artificial and hollow. Is this a favourable omen for the human race or a harbinger of something more ominous. Why was the Moon directed to retain continuously a dark side? A side of the Moon we never see. Also police records referring to increased crime during the full Moon are commonplace. A study of ET material of which literature today abounds, strongly indicates that the nature of the Moon has a sinister purpose and plays a role in manipulating man's evolution.

In fact, if we include relevant data from extraterrestrial material transmitted by Ashayana Deane (see other articles for more information on this source) taken from a now vast body of advanced scientific knowledge about the universe, life and man's downfall, it is made clear that the Moon is another of the many components of the Beast machine (see Cosmic Map article), and does indeed play a sinister role. The natural matter of the Moon came from a very large planet, Maldek (or Marduk), which orbited our Sun thousands of years ago between Mars and Jupiter. It was inhabited by a thriving civilisation which degenerated to such a degree that the planet was destroyed. The asteroid belt is a product of the many fragments; also Wormwood (Bible), referred to as Battlestar Wormwood by ETs (see Planet X article).

We can tentatively assume now that the Moon consists of a metallic framework which has been packed by pieces from Maldek, forming the spherical shape but is essentially hollow. Similarly for Wormwood. Thus the Moon contains energies and coding (frequency patterns) supporting the original ET agenda for assimilation of our planetary system and in fact the whole time matrix. Further programmes emanate from the moon, such as one to cause unnatural hormonal/menstrual cycles in women to produce more children---thus losing control over when to have children. The purpose being to keep a plentiful stock of DNA for their genetic experiments (the human DNA, that is, its original template is valuable to these spiritually-fallen ETs).

In fact, not only does the Moon affect the tides of Earth but the blood in living organisms. A separate source of information (channelling) refers to the Moon as being an electromagnetic computer which can be programmed intelligently, such as to influence the feminine cycle (as also mentioned above in the Deane material), and has been transmitting signals to maintain our DNA for aeons.



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Tales of the Time loop your very own David Icke talks about a Veil put over earth. What relationship does it have with the moon?

Michael Tsarion said that man has not been on mars because this planet has been made into a prison thousands of years ago and the aesteroid belt was pretty much because of this war that went on. He goes on to suggest that ancient races manipulating homo-sapiens (fucking homos) are trying to get technology advanced enough to get past this barrier around earth.

Which is also the case with the Matrix material (but this planet has been cut off for reasons of harvesting), which I suggest you check out on

http://www.trufax.org/

And for those of you who think there is a "one conciousness" the Matrix Materials (from an individual has mastered Astral travel and OBE) says this is an individual experience and the one conciousness is a trap. But you guys don't want to hear that now, do you?

[thoth]

Ok Dummies



And for those of you who think there is a "one conciousness" the Matrix Materials (from an individual has mastered Astral travel and OBE) says this is an individual experience and the one conciousness is a trap. But you guys don't want to hear that now, do you?

Why? Why a trap? If its an individual journey, whats the journey's purpose? Just to find out that its a game? A game for what? Whats the goal, according to the Matrix Series?

[fantana]

Why? Why a trap? If its an individual journey, whats the journey's purpose? Just to find out that its a game? A game for what? Whats the goal, according to the Matrix Series?

I know you have been reading :D

What is the goal according to the "One Conciousness" ?

Is it not to experience itself at different levels? Why?

The Matrix Series says it is for the higher self to progress on a spiritual level.

Don't ask me why, I'm only good at jumping out of explosions, hitting and shooting people.

The trap is to divert people from their individual paths I would imagine. Tell me something different.

[lookfar]

Tales of the Time loop your very own David Icke talks about a Veil put over earth. What relationship does it have with the moon?

Michael Tsarion said that man has not been on mars because this planet has been made into a prison thousands of years ago and the aesteroid belt was pretty much because of this war that went on. He goes on to suggest that ancient races manipulating homo-sapiens (fucking homos) are trying to get technology advanced enough to get past this barrier around earth.

Which is also the case with the Matrix material (but this planet has been cut off for reasons of harvesting), which I suggest you check out on

http://www.trufax.org/

And for those of you who think there is a "one conciousness" the Matrix Materials (from an individual has mastered Astral travel and OBE) says this is an individual experience and the one conciousness is a trap. But you guys don't want to hear that now, do you?

Interesting post & thanks for the links fantana :)

[thoth]

I know you have been reading :D

What is the goal according to the "One Conciousness" ?

Is it not to experience itself at different levels? Why?

The Matrix Series says it is for the higher self to progress on a spiritual level.

Don't ask me why, I'm only good at jumping out of explosions, hitting and shooting people.

The trap is to divert people from their individual paths I would imagine. Tell me something different.

The goal of 'oneness' is to understand that we are that. It doesn't matter what level of the illusion you go to, its still an illusion. We are everything else and everything else is us. Its understanding that we live in a solar system. In other words, a system that works together for survival. Its also irreducibly complex, the parts depend on each other. We will experience our individual paths no matter what. So you don't have to be on a personal mission to go it alone, thats happening no matter what. But, oneness is happening no matter what also! All of the individual paths lead to the same place evetually, oneness! So whats at the end of the individual path? Spirituality? How? In what form? Love? A high sense of being beyond physical reality? Or power and ego? Have you ever felt something outside of yourself?

[tinmenace]

I just love you Thoth! You are right on the money, Bud!

[shadow cat]

actually, i know a bit about this one;

in one my past lives i was apprentice mechanic on our draco2012 space ship. I was hired to do all those dirty jobs in ship's engine room that we have those people from poor countries do in say in more advanced nations nowadays.

But, at 6.66 dracolars pay per a travel-year -- that was lot more than i could made in lifetime on my native planet Mars, not to mention that we were fucking up our planet's atmosphere really good.
So, it was time to move on anyways.
Well, after i got recruited by reptilian Draco Space Force -- i figured that this would be my chance to get some higher education and security clearance than could help in one of the many future jobs that we all had to go through.


After all, being a certified draco slave was not so bad, lot better than those Zeta Rectumulians overlords of the universe, our true enemy. <shivers and respect>
I was happy that i was working for the good guys anyways.
Hey, our microchip implants had lot more features anyways. 34000 download channels vs 28000 download channels! yey!

so, while our ship was towing that darn moon thing that was attached to our draco-starship, me and my buddy who were on duty in the engine room had little too much to drink of that soma-beer.
well, next thing we know, we hit a wrong button and we lost the pressure in tail section of our ship.

so, just like good drunks would do -- we tried to rectify the problem by pushing yet another wrong button.
it turned out that we accidentaly ejected one of the escepe capsules that was set to manual override, and that capsule hit the really long chain that was attached to the moon.
so, next thing we know -- chain broke and moon started floating away from us.

we decided that is was best thing not to tell to our ship captain what happen. we figured that if we did tell what happened -- he would fry our arses immediately, as it it usually done.
well, darn, we forgot that he had an "idiot lght" in his ship, so he knew when we lost that moon thingy.
well, just like a good captain of draco ship would do -- he decided to tell on us, so he can save his ass..

so, we got arrested and next thing we know -- our asses were deported to the soilent green factory....

oh, i forgot to mention, the reason Stewart Swerdlow knows that 'moon is a ship" is because he was that other drunk asshole who got me in trouble anyways.

that is why i decided to write a book "I am me, I am free"

:lol:


First Prize for the best story I have read on this Forum!!:D Loved it!! especially the Rectumulians......:eek: Thanks King..long may you rule...now beam me up Scotty..Nanu Nanu

[lucifershammer]

I suggest Christopher Knights "who built the moon". its fascinating. You may want to read his "civilization one" book first to get the background detail. he has some very good information.

if you do read it, i suggest having a good calculator handy if you want to double check his math.

[amadeus]

Hi,

thanks for the thread, this is a very interesting subject.

What do you guys make of Richard Hoagland? I've watched his mars-series(lectures). In vol3 he talks about the artificial buildings on the moon etc. I found his presentations fascinating but somehow it left me uneasy. I think he often really stretches his facts to prove his theories. Like the maths done in the Cydonia-case. I mean the calculations are probably right, but the measuring points chosen didn't feel convincing. It felt like they "backengineered" the measurements to get the desired answer. I may be wrong, but my intuition tells me there's something funny about him...

p.s. Has there been a discussion here about the credibility of Steward Swerdlow?

[fantana]

The goal of 'oneness' is to understand that we are that. It doesn't matter what level of the illusion you go to, its still an illusion. We are everything else and everything else is us. Its understanding that we live in a solar system. In other words, a system that works together for survival. Its also irreducibly complex, the parts depend on each other. We will experience our individual paths no matter what. So you don't have to be on a personal mission to go it alone, thats happening no matter what. But, oneness is happening no matter what also! All of the individual paths lead to the same place evetually, oneness! So whats at the end of the individual path? Spirituality? How? In what form? Love? A high sense of being beyond physical reality? Or power and ego? Have you ever felt something outside of yourself?

Well the Matrix Materials state 75% of humans are DNA programs only, and are bought to life by the Planetary Life Force (which ends in 2012)

The oneness I think that occurs within the SOLAR SYSTEM is the basic rules the higher self has to be bound by in order to participate in this "game". That is, as a human you have certain limits and or capabilities (at first glance, anyway) And within those rules, are rules on the planet, in the solar system etc which links each to the whole (The Hologram) but the Higher Self is not part of that Solar System, because it is beyond it, past it, on another level and infact thousands of them simultanously.

So whilst you may clone this HMHT with one Muscular cell of his body (hologram) the life force which may inhabit this awesome body (Higher Self) will not be cloned. And whilst the "Junk DNA" may infact have the information for the rest of the Solar System and every living thing on it, it is just part of the experience of this 3d game that were in, and the higher self comes from origins past this experiene.

So that is how I would connect oneness in this dimension, going past all the 3d stuff and oneness as Icke from my interpretations and others have said is that all that is is an ocean of oneness and you are a drop in its ocean of conciousness.

Well, that still could be seen as individual. Like an individual sheep in a herd. I'm not on of these idiots who claims to know it all, I'm far too smart for that.

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Has there been a discussion here about the credibility of Steward Swerdlow?

Swerdlow doesn't sit well with me at all. I pretty much agree with the following comment.


Stewart Swerdlow dis_info artist - 26 September, 12:03

This is only a test to see if this post comes up at the top of the search engines for queries for (agent) and mind control expert himself Stewart Swerdlow.

This guy is sooooooooooooooooo bogus. What he does is that he claims to be an x mkid and to have insider connections with the Montauk underground base and the cia mind control experiments that go on there and that since he became aware of his x-nefarious cia connections he has decided to make big bucks imparting this knowledge to others for a huge fee of course. What his scam does is that he promotes and reinforces more fear based programming in the people who go to him to help them with getting over it in the first place.

Stewart Swerdlow is WEIRD. He creeped me out the second I shook his hand .

Stewart, the energy sensitive in an e-mail to me told me that orgonite does not create or enhance life force energy or that William Reich's research had any value.

This struck me as odd, since over the last 4 years of making orgonite, I have met many people who have held my orgonite creations, some of which have told me they have never felt such strong energy coming off objects before. Some people have to put down the orgonite, because they were so sensitive to the energy and who felt that it was to powerful to hold. This direct experience coming from folks who have never heard of orgonite or orgone energy before, was really very confirming to me that my little tb's do work.

Makes you wonder where Stewart is coming from when his website is called www.expansions.com and that he himself makes $$$$$ on self promoting his version of life force energy for healing and for breaking free of monarch programming.

It's the End Times according to Stewart, so if you do check his website, see if you feel more positive about life or whether you feel drained by visiting it. I feel totally drained by seeing his face or reading anything from his website.

[fantana]

Practical guide to holograms

http://www.holo.com/holo/book/book.html#bascon

[heretic]

The Moon speaks for itself:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YHx9GglJYAg

[notaslave]

Ok Dummies

Also police records referring to increased crime during the full Moon are commonplace. A study of ET material of which literature today abounds, strongly indicates that the nature of the Moon has a sinister purpose and plays a role in manipulating man's evolution.

In fact, not only does the Moon affect the tides of Earth but the blood in living organisms. A separate source of information (channelling) refers to the Moon as being an electromagnetic computer which can be programmed intelligently, such as to influence the feminine cycle (as also mentioned above in the Deane material), and has been transmitting signals to maintain our DNA for aeons.


Very interesting perspective.

A few points also, at one time, many years ago when I was living overseas, our "doctor" kept two charts on his wall. One was of the moon cycles and relation to people's health/visits to medical centre and the other was a chart on when the fathers were away (on military exercise) and relation to health/visits. Wish I had paid them more attention, actually I was more drawn at that time to relation to absent fathers ratio to visits - which were up when the father was away (generally). Though how one could tell whether the mother made more visits with the children due to over concern or real health issues I dont know. (see below)

With regards to menstrual cycle and the moon yes. However as any female will tell you a group of females living in the same house find almost always that they synchronise with each other re: their period.

We live in a very individual way these days. One could go far as to say by design. Particularly in the UK where it is possible to be a single parent family and survive economically. Whereas in our past, a woman needed a man in order to economically survive.

Not saying I harken after past times. (hell no!!) Just pointing out that by nature women living together will synchronise. And that our society is encouraging - and it is - a separation not only in a community sense but marital. Divorce rates up etc., We must be aware of how much this is actually encouraged by media.

Anyway yes interesting article, the moon has always been of interest to me. Sometimes you can actually see "flares".

note: mother may take child with a cold to the doctor, when nornally she may have treated it herself at home.

[shenoma]

lunar= lunatic

[2013]

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With regards to menstrual cycle and the moon yes. However as any female will tell you a group of females living in the same house find almost always that they synchronise with each other re: their period.



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Yes i have found that when living with a group of women or seeing new groups of females mixing that they do synchronise together during their periods , so that suggests the possibilty of the moon being an artificial device controlling some of humans basic functions :Also the book who built the moon was written by christopher knight who has written the hiram key, and Solomon's Power Brokers: The Secrets of Freemasonry, the Church, and the Illuminati i have read a few namely hiram key and follow up but havent read solomon 1 .Anyway masonic themes ,Anything we read even if it contains evidence doesnt really mean anything unless wqe can verify that evidence for ourselves , even if other so called academics or experts in their fields agree .:D

[intuition]

Who Built The Moon?: Amazon.co.uk: Christopher Knight & Alan Butler: 9781905857111: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HwIoY7heL.@@AMEPARAM@@41HwIoY7heL



Ive just finish reading the above book, was intresting.

[chattanova]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Built-Moon-Christopher-Knight-Butler/dp/190585711X/ref=sr_1_2/203-7484120-8071918?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182871178&sr=8-2



Ive just finish reading the above book, was intresting.

That looks very interesting in fact ,it's on my book list now:)
Thx intuition

[pumma]

Found this link http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Who_Built_the_Moon.html

[grannymoose]

If there was no moon then quite probably there would be no life as we know it on the Earth. Also there would be no seasons.

very true
it controls both tides and also the female reproduction cycles

[meave]

graham handcocks goes on about the day moon appeared in the book underworld

[pali_gap]

and also the female reproduction cycles

how:confused:

[apekteina lordosis]

how:confused:

well the average ovulation cycle is the same number of days as the phases of the moon, i think. then there's a lot of iron in period bood and if the moon is artifical perhaps it's made of, or parts of it are made of iron.

and when the "sun" "rises" and we can't see the moon we say good "morning", a word that is one "u" away from "mourning".

[1971]

Interesting thread, never ever thought about this, sure the moon landings not being real but not the actual moon :eek:

[darryl84]

http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/939moonsmall.jpg
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=939



Someone was ahead of their time ole teslafire, maybe this should be in the human race get off your knees area? :p

[darryl84]

Fascinating subject, which I heard of a while ago & would like to learn more about...

Artificially built for what purpose??? Just had a thought (& excuse me for being a bit tipsy on Leffe beer, but it is Friday night, LOL!!)... does it all tie into the matrix situation I wonder, like somehow holding us here, hmmm maybe it's another avenue to explore...or not???:confused:



Wow, lookfar, psychic much? you have some power eh? :p haha

[theabominablephenomenon]

From Jim Marrs book 'Above Top Secret'
Chapter 'Who Parked the Moon?'

Among these “breath-stopping” mysteries or anomalies as scientists prefer to call them is the fact that the Moon is far older than previously imagined, perhaps even much older than the Earth and Sun. By examining tracks burned into Moon rocks by cosmic rays, scientists have dated them as billions of years old. Some have been dated back 4.5 billion years, far older than the Earth and nearly as old as the solar system.

[hypocrite hater]

duh. clearly it was put there by elvis and jesus, i heard they had this time travelling, satellite creation gig going, they thought it would be a giggle to make the moon - yes from cheese obviously! apparently ancient alien hieroglyphs picture jesus and the king debating which cheeses to form the moon from!!! ive heard that tsarion has the originals in his truth dungeon.

[pri01]

Wow, lookfar, psychic much? you have some power eh? :p haha
Hi darryl84 friend. I do believe that the creation or placing of the moon is very much connected with the Isis godess, or whatever her name is referred to through the ages.

Moon cycles such as the female human menstrual cycle is a process which I was led to believe was biologically related to hormones. However I believe that menstrual and hormoons (deliberate spelling) are working in combination. After all, the female cycle is regulated by hormones or hormoons, hermes etc. Words and names are so powerful. x x

[hypocrite hater]

Hi darryl84 friend. I do believe that the creation or placing of the moon is very much connected with the Isis godess, or whatever her name is referred to through the ages.

Moon cycles such as the female human menstrual cycle is a process which I was led to believe was biologically related to hormones. However I believe that menstrual and hormoons (deliberate spelling) are working in combination. After all, the female cycle is regulated by hormones or hormoons, hermes etc. Words and names are so powerful. x x

i believe that brain is a little malnourished. come off the flouride and start thinking rationally for YOURSELF.

[theabominablephenomenon]

i believe that brain is a little malnourished. come off the flouride and start thinking rationally for YOURSELF.
Given tides are dictated by the moon,
and the proportions of human body water,
along with the proportions of planet water,
is it easier to see that gravitational pull and lunar position may take part
in a menstrual cycle?

[ninorc]

If women's menstrual cycles are determined by the moon, why don't they all menstruate at the same time? How come the moon's cycle is totally regular and predicable, unlike women's menstrual cycles?

[theabominablephenomenon]

If women's menstrual cycles are determined by the moon, why don't they all menstruate at the same time? How come the moon's cycle is totally regular and predicable, unlike women's menstrual cycles?
It doesn't have to be specifically regulated like the moon for it to have some sort of effect. Women's menstruation can often syncopate however, suggesting some other force.

Magnetism especially of celestial bodies seems to be one of the foundations for many beliefs, including how the alignment of planets at your birth had a direct effect upon who you are.

[dawnbreak]

If women's menstrual cycles are determined by the moon, why don't they all menstruate at the same time? How come the moon's cycle is totally regular and predicable, unlike women's menstrual cycles?

we do! the pill allows for artifical menstruation......once you take it, your menstruation is timed by the 'break' of not taking the pill.

you'll find that women not on the pill menstruate at the same time :p

[theabominablephenomenon]

we do! the pill allows for artifical menstruation......once you take it, your menstruation is timed by the 'break' of not taking the pill.

you'll find that women not on the pill menstruate at the same time :p
Perhaps the pill is part of the nazi science that seems so popular, as it would conflict with any harmony of the moon which is natural.
These damn nazis have got it sussed.

[darryl84]

It is well known the moon affects the hormonal system and water, consider then that blood is approximately 70% water and hormones effect the menstrual cycles and with those two basic components alone you have pretty convincing evidence of atleast a partial connection between the moon and the menstrual cycle.

[theabominablephenomenon]

It is well known the moon affects the hormonal system and water, consider then that blood is approximately 70% water and hormones effect the menstrual cycles and with those two basic components alone you have pretty convincing evidence of atleast a partial connection between the moon and the menstrual cycle.
If one celestial body plays a part in it,
it probably means they all play a part in it...

[ninorc]

you'll find that women not on the pill menstruate at the same time :p
Is this accurate? I'm aware of the phenomenon that's been remarked upon in this thread of women's cycles becoming coordinated within communities, but this hardly applies to all women living under the moon (does it?)

Also, do the women in these separate communities all menstruate at the same phase of the moon?

My second point, about the relative predictability of lunar and menstrual cycles hasn't been addressed. 1 lunar cycle = 29.53059 days precisely. Are any women quite so regular in their menstrual cycles?

I am interested in this question since, for years before David Icke came out with his Moon Matrix theory, I've been friendly with women who claim that the moon's governance of their menstrual cycles has turned them into battery breeders and that the natural state of women is to choose if and when they may get pregnant (i.e.: not every flipping month). When I ask these women how they can be sure that the moon controls them in that way, they tend to chuckle dismissively, as if its self-evident.

[abcnick]

Found it funny this thread was started in 2007. Did Icke visit here during research for his latest book? :confused: ;) :D

[dreamweaver]

Found it funny this thread was started in 2007. Did Icke visit here during research for his latest book? :confused: ;) :D

Who knows? ;)

But it probably belongs in the Human Race Get Off Your Knees forum now, even though it didn't exist when the thread was originally started.

[dawnbreak]

Is this accurate? I'm aware of the phenomenon that's been remarked upon in this thread of women's cycles becoming coordinated within communities, but this hardly applies to all women living under the moon (does it?)

Also, do the women in these separate communities all menstruate at the same phase of the moon?

My second point, about the relative predictability of lunar and menstrual cycles hasn't been addressed. 1 lunar cycle = 29.53059 days precisely. Are any women quite so regular in their menstrual cycles?

I am interested in this question since, for years before David Icke came out with his Moon Matrix theory, I've been friendly with women who claim that the moon's governance of their menstrual cycles has turned them into battery breeders and that the natural state of women is to choose if and when they may get pregnant (i.e.: not every flipping month). When I ask these women how they can be sure that the moon controls them in that way, they tend to chuckle dismissively, as if its self-evident.

yes they are ......

women menstruate at the full moon or half moon.

every 28/29 days

a womens cycle is locked into the moon

[dawnbreak]

have you ever heard of a mooncup??