Global Warming - effect of Weather manipulation

[suziwong]

Global changes - although I am aware of the science which identifies climatic & wild weather is a consequence of unprecidented solar activity - the global weather manipulation techniques have had to have an effect upon our climate -

Check out my blog - it includes a quote from HAARP's official website which confirms environmental destruction imo

http://www.socyberty.com/Activism/Global-Warming-An-Effect-of-Weather-Manipulation.159923

[endlessvista]

Global Warming...yeah whatever you say...

*tosses another log on the fire as freezing rain hits the window as it has done all summer*

[suziwong]

Global Warming...yeah whatever you say...

*tosses another log on the fire as freezing rain hits the window as it has done all summer*
Maybe global warming isn't the correct phrase - more like weather chaos
As you say I remember long hot summers 30 years ago - what happened - that's my point

[endlessvista]

Maybe global warming isn't the correct phrase - more like weather chaos
As you say I remember long hot summers 30 years ago - what happened - that's my point

No, they were VERY specific for several years and not in any way vague. GLOBAL WARMING is what they said we would get. They said nothing else and any "chaos" was a result of this GLOBAL WARMING they said was dead cert.

They lied, made up data, whipped up scare stories, bullshitted, call it what you want but their decade long prediction of GLOBAL WARMING was a massive crock of shit.

Here is in Ireland we are about to have a carbon tax imposed upon us by the same people who said we would be eating mangos off our own backyard trees and enjoy balmy winters. The reverse happened and this is the second Irish summer in a row there has been no "summer".

They only came up with "Climate Change/Chaos/Flux" newspeak for the warming world which never materialised in order to cover the fact that their GLOBAL WARMING scam was blown way sooner than they hoped and everyone saw through the lies of Al Gore and other GLOBAL WARMING bullshitters and con men.

You even put GLOBAL WARMING in the title of this thread. It was an establishment scam, whipped up by polititians and bankers in order to generate a whole new range of taxes for something which AL Goes pulled out of his fat fucking arsehole.

Once more, that this was GLOBAL WARMING and not anything else and any chaos they told us would happen would be a result of, yes you guessed it...GLOBAL WARMING!

I AM FUCKING FREEZING!!!!

[cruise4]

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[lizzy]

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[suziwong]

No, they were VERY specific for several years and not in any way vague. GLOBAL WARMING is what they said we would get. They said nothing else and any "chaos" was a result of this GLOBAL WARMING they said was dead cert.

They lied, made up data, whipped up scare stories, bullshitted, call it what you want but their decade long prediction of GLOBAL WARMING was a massive crock of shit.

Here is in Ireland we are about to have a carbon tax imposed upon us by the same people who said we would be eating mangos off our own backyard trees and enjoy balmy winters. The reverse happened and this is the second Irish summer in a row there has been no "summer".

They only came up with "Climate Change/Chaos/Flux" newspeak for the warming world which never materialised in order to cover the fact that their GLOBAL WARMING scam was blown way sooner than they hoped and everyone saw through the lies of Al Gore and other GLOBAL WARMING bullshitters and con men.

You even put GLOBAL WARMING in the title of this thread. It was an establishment scam, whipped up by polititians and bankers in order to generate a whole new range of taxes for something which AL Goes pulled out of his fat fucking arsehole.

Once more, that this was GLOBAL WARMING and not anything else and any chaos they told us would happen would be a result of, yes you guessed it...GLOBAL WARMING!

I AM FUCKING FREEZING!!!!
You are obviously blind to the mad climate changes that have been happening all over the world. Including the one you are moaning about - (winter & summer becoming so similar)
Have you not noticed - or are you choosing to take an insular view.
Australia has been in a massive drought for years, hundreds of thousands of people dead due to freak weather conditions (hurricanes - tidal waves)in the past few years.
It is not only earth but every planet in our galaxy that has suffered massive climate change. If you bother to read you will know that this is due to an influx of energy from the sun in our galaxy - nothing to do with carbon footprints - that is the scam WAKE UP

[endlessvista]

suzi, you are just trying to use the bad summers to justify your notions about HAARP and fair enough, but the fact is that THEIR GLOBAL WARMING IMPOSED ON US BY IDIOT JOURNALISTS scam has fallen so flat on it ass they are now inventing all kinds of crazy buzz words like "Climate Change" in order make out that even if it is cold outside that means it is actually global warming.

Get real. You have been had and it has nothing to do with HARRP. The Global Warming was a taxation and corporate finance scam which was invented in the wake of the very hot French summer of 2004 (one of several since the 1600's btw) which we were told killed 40,000 people.

Yes it did. But what the cockheads did not explain that this was the NORMAL MORALTAITY RATE for gereatics in France during a summer. They put ALL THE DEATHS DOWN TO GLOBAL WARMING even granddads that died while fucking prostitutes on viagra.

YOU WAKE UP!!!

and yet again today I AM FUCKING FREEZING!!!!!!! PLEASE BELIEVE ME!!!

You have some cheek telling me to wake up! Hands up any British or Irish person reading this thread today who are getting up form their sun chair to pick nectarines growing in their gardens.

But how can this be!!!! The BBC Gardener's World have us all running to the garden centers to buy cactus and banana trees because of "climate change is making our summers warmer you know!" [for full effect have GW presented shivering in the rain]

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They now have the gall to claim 'Global Dimming' and now that's because of air pollution. It's endless bollocks from these idiots.

[endlessvista]

and what amazes me is that the most gullible tossers of all are the most educated and enlightened! The biggest sheep of all.

It's true what I heard someone say recently. "The people who do not read newspapers, or watch TV know more about what's going on in the world than the ones that do".

[suziwong]

Endless - why you upset with "wake up" when you shout (caps) and swear - we are all friends on here - but I admit some of these topics are infuriating

Are you denying climate change !!!!?????!!!!

I think that we are in agreement on one fact - there is a systematic and relentless campaign of mis-information from government and media -
We are being told that climate change is a consequence of our actions - we burned fossil fuels - we burn energy, we don't recycle - therefore we are all evil - we are all to blame - and as a consequence we must PAY (money money money)-
It is all an excersise to pull down the pant of the general public - carbon tax, fuel tax, emissions tax - this is just the start - who knows what other wonderous taxation delights they have in store for us!

20000 scientists worldwide have signed a register to say that human activities have an insignificant effect upon the planet.

Where we differ - is that I am of the opinion that there are significant changes to the climate.

The HAARP blog was in response to the fact that they openly admit that there useage of the system causes localised devastation and has and will continue to affect localised climatic conditions - but how many people are aware of it? - not many!

Behaind the scenes in government there is widespread panic - our sun - in the 80's began to emit significantly more energy than at any other detectable time in history.
Enormous cosmic flares bombarded our planet (and all other planets in the solar system) - This was combined with a seemingly co-ordinated and unusual weakening in the planets magnetic field (weakening to none existant in some areas) - and an unprecidented increase in the earths pulse - the schumann resonance.

Interestingly - the energy from the sun is hitting the earth in flares which are double helix in shape - like DNA - prompting some to theorise that this could be a global evolution.

The massive surges of additional energy are cited to be the cause of many spiritual awakenings in individuals.

Astronomically - the earth will align with the centre of the galaxy in 2012 )ring a bell)- as astonishingly and accurately predicted by the Mayan's - this will prophesised to be a period of transition -
Potentailly a magnetic pole shift - as theorised due to the unpresidented weakening of the magnetic fields

I think your beef is with the term "global warming" - it is misleading - as overall, this year the planet is about half a degree cooler than in previous years. However the misleading title was spawned from the fact no one understands what is happening scientifically - and in some areas temperatures have soared - significantly around the ice caps . The correct term should be "Climatic chaos"
The public however only associate with the term "global Warming"

[endlessvista]

Are you denying climate change !!!!?????!!!!

20000 scientists worldwide have signed a register to say that human activities have an insignificant effect upon the planet.



Sorry suzi, but you appear to have bought into this Al Gore shite hook, line and sinker. I really can't be arsed dealing with someone who has been so utterly trapped within the cliches and spoofery of the engineered conditioning in favour of a bogus scam which if you even scratch the surface shows itself up to be an unscientific fraud based on nothing other than politics, big business and Hollywood. (the satanic trinity)

Do I deny "Climate Change" - have you considered offering your services to Greenpeace or Al Gore with that level of devotion?

Just listen to what you said. It is a question designed to trap a person into agreeing with the statement because a fact (climates always change) has been subtituted to replace a lie (anthrophmorpic global warming).

The fact being that all planets with a fluid envelope experience constant climate change regardless of humans are there or not, and how can anyone deny this. It is a classic piece of Newspeak entrapment.

Just examine the term "Climate Change" for a moment. It is like saying "Birds Flying", "Rain Pouring", "Wind Blowing". Being asked to deny something which is obvious in order to render the person insane or moronic as the real meaning is a bait n' switch job. So a person who has issues with the Global Warming scam is placed into a position were they have to defend their own level of intellect before we can get to the argument concerning the validity of the 'science' surround Al Gore's scam. This is a tactic the Zionists have used for decades if anyone has an issue with the behaviour of the state of Israel, one is deemed automatically a Nazi. Same thing with the Global Warming nutters, you are put into a position were you left to defend yourself and your humanity before we can get around to the debate and the truth of the matter. But then the voice of opposistion is discarded before it has a chance to even make its point. The Global Warming/Climate Change brigade are in the same league.

Did I mention that we were sold Global Warming for the last decade and this was a monumental lie.

Funny thing is I was looking for some DVDs the other day and came across a Disney one called Ferngully and the Rainforest. The cartoon was from 2000 and all about how mankind has destroyed the rainforest and the lungs of world are being suffocated...blah, blah, blah...if you look at the whole rainforest scaremongering story it contains all the same people currently behind the Global Warming fraud, uses the same tactics and like Climate Change turned out to be a huge lie.

You see Suzi, as a former member of Greenpeace I for years thought that environmentalists were on the other side of "the system" until I discovered that Greenpeace (and the Green movement as a whole) is run by the same corporations and elite they claim to be against.

There is a hidden hand in all this stuff and you should be more worried about not taking sides (thereby escaping), rather than falling into the trap of validating a psychotic conman like Al Gore and Wall Street Banks he is working for by default by repeating their bullshit.

[suziwong]

In all honesty - I am not at all familiar with Al Gore or anything he says.

I have never been into anything eco (although I would be interested to hear your experiences with Greenpeace)

My feeling is that as a consumer - I have very few options open to me - I have to buy food every week (from an every depleting variety of sources) - I try not to give my money to "the man" ie big corps Tesco's etc - but independent traders are now few and far between.
But if I have to buy bread - if it is in a non-degradable wrapper - I consider that it is not my responsiblity to sort it out - for the sake of the planet.
It is the responsibility of the manufacturer!

The energy crisis could be overcome by research into the zero point energy field. limitless clean energy (plus many other environmentally friendly schemes proposed and surpressed) - nothing will change whilst those at the top can retain their control, power and influence and money supply.

Because of the above - I never listen to who tells me that the state of the planet is down to me - and I have a responsibilty to change it.

My thoughts regarding climate and HAARP come from reading books, blogs, articles about space - the universe - electromagnetism etc. In Particular one theory about new theories in quantum physics about universal plasma energy networks throughout the universe
I read an article about a fairly recent discovery about the earths core containing a giant spinning magnetic iron crystal (the size of the moon) and that this crystal could potentially absorb energy from the sun - feed and grow. Tiny magnetic crystals have also been located in nerve bundles in the human brain.
I then read about a number of huge unprecidented solar flares hitting the earth in recent years - and a potential correlation between flares and cataclysmic climatic and tectonic events.
I have also aware in recent years with images of earthquakes / hurricanes / flood/ storms - loss of life in the last 10 years - that I have not seen in my previous 30 years - (the huge number of deaths due to recent climatic events are a reality) and it made me think.
That is when I discovered information about HAARP & Woodpecker & weather control.

At no point did Al Gore figure in my conclusions or thoughts - I certainly don't consider myself brainwashed (but I bet we all think that)
But I maintain that your comments, digs are unfounded

I am new to this website - and where you lot were aware of HAARP etc for a long time - it is all still a relatively new revalation to me.

The problem is
many people have natural insight
some use psychotropic "magic" drugs to open their minds and reach higher planes of enlightenment
some can enter deep maditative states to attain understanding.

I can't do any of that!

But I want to understand - and there are so many interesting topics out there and not enough hours in the day!- and people like me have to read & study everything to gain any insight and be able to form original thoughts and ideas.
When you pick a topic, you often read 10 reports or articles which all contradict each other - It is not always that easy to know what is real and what is deliberate mis-information and what is pure BS -

Without divine insight - and when nothing can be taken on face value - how does anyone know if they are right about anything!

[magicmerlin]

Sun Spots

[klinker]

Now the birds, apparently, are also getting stupid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7571229.stm

[endlessvista]

Now the birds, apparently, are also getting stupid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7571229.stm

So 100 Bill Oddies counted some birdies and the BBC turns some "may be's" "could's" and "might's" into cast iron proof of global warming.

The BCC are completely intoxicated with global warming/clinate change and do anything and everthing they can to sell the scam

[suziwong]

Endless,

you can choose to ignore climate change -

As "flat earthers" choose to refuse to acknowledge gravity or NASA photo's of the earth.

Don't get me wrong - I can understand their motivation - ie a global spread of lies and propaganda - why believe anything you are told?

But you can take disbelief to the extreme in my opinion

Where do you draw the line

[endlessvista]

Endless,

you can choose to ignore climate change -

As "flat earthers" choose to refuse to acknowledge gravity or NASA photo's of the earth.

Don't get me wrong - I can understand their motivation - ie a global spread of lies and propaganda - why believe anything you are told?

But you can take disbelief to the extreme in my opinionI a

Where do you draw the line


Suzi, you just didn't read my post. Climate Change is real and always has been long before humans ever had machines. Politically motivated science is not real and never was.

I suggest you read up on the US dust bowl and what happened prior to it happening. The US government and scientists encouraged thousands of families to move to states such as Oklahoma and Texas informing them that if they ploughed the land constantly, rain you arrive. This was "science". The term was "Rain Follows the Plough" was branded about in the newspapers of the day the way 'Carbon Footprint' is now - people who disagreed were called unscientific and flat earthers. The result was mass starvation and millions of refugees. The Soviet Union did the same in Ukraine.

From the start of time when a goverment has pushed a bogus science agenda based on their politically driven "research" and entrenched it with propaganda and media ridicule, their lies always left human disasters.

Global Warming/Climate Change is rooted in political agendas (mainly anti-India, China, Russia development scaremongering/envy) and please bear in mind this is in the interest of Western Bilderburg puppet governments and not in the interest of Suziwong, migrating birds, or human needs before you buy into it.

You need to look up a documentary on YouTube called The Great Global Warming Swindle.