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kjay
29-04-2007, 04:21 PM
First off, I thank you all for your warm welcome here as I have been officially registered here for a short time but have been lurking here and on other forums for years.

My private research has become a passion with me and after a while has led me to recently start a website dedicated that research , its conclusions, and what we can do about it. It is far from complete and has only in fact just begun.

I have been posting on several forums now and have recieved the same warm welcome from all of them...except one. And it distresses me greatly because it is the one forum I have learned the most from and have come to respect its members greatly and was sure i would fit in. Initially everyone greeted me with respect and interest, then I went to sleep that night. Humans do sleep.

The forum is: http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/ I like the people of that forum a lot.

The next morning I noticed how the thread I started had declined into one of accusation and suspicion. Unfounded as it was I was moved to respond specifically to what was posted and had finished, but when I went to post my response I was greeted by a message:

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

This distressed me greatly. A group that I had come to respect and finally had something to contribute to had closed the door. Actually one person...not the group.

I was accused of maybe being someone who evidently earlier was involved in some kind of IPOD scam. I was not, and stated that I was absolutely not.

Some if the posts indicated that they may have thought that the only reason I was there was to promote a bogus MLM program. This was NOT the case, however on my site I did have an ad at one place for a new Company that looked promising and was hoping that if it worked would help to fund my research and life. I had been in MLM from time to time and know of its possibilities.

I emailed the contact from the forums and explaned I was in no way "farming" for any MLM program as he was implying I might be doing, or otherwise and told him that I had removed the ads totally from my website to show my sincerity. They are still absent on my site, but may return in the future if I am not allowed to return to the forums, AND only then if it proves successful.

I was emailed back and told that he forewarded my e-mail to "scorpio" and that he was the one who could make things right...or not.

I have recieved no further response from them after repeated e-mails to them and conclude that one of two things are possible.

(1). That I have innocently been accused and senticed to a life sentence because of misunderstandings. If that is the case, then that is the reason for this post.

(2). That someone on that forum did not like the content of my website. And I dont mean the MLM part either. The actual information on my site could be the reason for me being banned from it. This does not make sense as there are many, many others who share with me these truths and have been in fact some of the very ones who opened my eyes to them. So someone controlling the site would have to be the one. In that case I ask others here who may be on that site to bring this to their attention.

My website is: http://www.truthofourtime.com

If this does not interest you then I ask that you simply let this go unchecked.

If you have any input or ideas I welcome them. I will post this same thread on all forums I am currently on.

In any event, I again thank you.

Below is the responce to the thread that I was never allowed to post:

**********************************

Wow, I certainly did not not want that to happen. I removed all the material about Global wealth from my website and was responding to the posts on my thread. When I went to set the record straight...the screen changed and said I had been banned from the site....


Here is my intended responce on my thread:

Wow!..A lot goes on while you are sleeping.

R MacDonald asked if I Will you be doing a section on Vaccination dangers? ie: autism?

Yes I have files on these and will be adding them as the site grows. Audio and eventually video also...including solutions to these problems and products for solutions to the problems. It takes Funds and I am very limited at this time...We have just begun.

mamboni says "I have a strange feeling.....like..I've seen you somewhere before"...
Well...I was adopted...you never know..:)

Halophyte noticed the ad for GLOBAL WEALTH. It is something I recently was exposed to and thought it might be a good way to help fund my Website and Research if it was successful. I need donations rather badly. It was new and looked promising. I have been exposed to MLM before and know of its potential.

I ask that Halophyte continue his trace and report his findings to us. I would like to know what you can find out about Global Wealth.

In the meantime, I have removed ALL material reguarding GLOBAL WEALTH from my website and it will not return...unless I am successful in earning income in it.
You have to understand that I have just started this website and have much, much more to add to it and need donations to ever come close to realising what I wish to accomplish with it...In case you didnt notice...the enemy is rolling in funds...funds mostly stolen from YOU and used against you...It will take resources to accomplish our goals.

Sukhoi_fan has a long list of info I have no idea of what it means...but it seems you know how to access information...your skills may come in very handy indeed. You also stated "It appears the entire website was uploaded minutes prior to the first post on GIM."

My website has been running for weeks now but I edit and add to it everyday. I would guess that when I make those adjustments to my website and hit the publish button that it updated the site and gave the impression that it was just created...because it actually was. But I assure you I have been publishing it for about a month or so now.

I havent figured out how to get the site in any search engines... yet another step to take.

R MacDonald then asks "Is this the same guy that's been trying to sell us the cheap iPods? Phone #s look familiar."

I can assure you that I am NOT the person you are speaking of. I have no part in whatever that is. And no phone numbers of mine have ever been listed here or on my site. My communication takes place through my long standing e-mail account. KJayL1@hotmail.com

You guys are tough...but your questions and observations are just...I like it...Remember that Truth floats and B.S. sinks.

I will tell you this...I will not Lie to you...and I require the same from you.

Thank you,

KJay

http://www.truthofourtime.com



Can you foreward this to whoever you can on the forums and help me clear this up?

I care a lot about the forum and I believe we are stronger working together

3ill
29-04-2007, 04:37 PM
First off, I thank you all for your warm welcome here as I have been officially registered here for a short time but have been lurking here and on other forums for years.

My private research has become a passion with me and after a while has led me to recently start a website dedicated that research , its conclusions, and what we can do about it. It is far from complete and has only in fact just begun.

I have been posting on several forums now and have recieved the same warm welcome from all of them...except one. And it distresses me greatly because it is the one forum I have learned the most from and have come to respect its members greatly and was sure i would fit in. Initially everyone greeted me with respect and interest, then I went to sleep that night. Humans do sleep.

The forum is: http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/ I like the people of that forum a lot.

The next morning I noticed how the thread I started had declined into one of accusation and suspicion. Unfounded as it was I was moved to respond specifically to what was posted and had finished, but when I went to post my response I was greeted by a message:

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

This distressed me greatly. A group that I had come to respect and finally had something to contribute to had closed the door. Actually one person...not the group.

I was accused of maybe being someone who evidently earlier was involved in some kind of IPOD scam. I was not, and stated that I was absolutely not.

Some if the posts indicated that they may have thought that the only reason I was there was to promote a bogus MLM program. This was NOT the case, however on my site I did have an ad at one place for a new Company that looked promising and was hoping that if it worked would help to fund my research and life. I had been in MLM from time to time and know of its possibilities.

I emailed the contact from the forums and explaned I was in no way "farming" for any MLM program as he was implying I might be doing, or otherwise and told him that I had removed the ads totally from my website to show my sincerity. They are still absent on my site, but may return in the future if I am not allowed to return to the forums, AND only then if it proves successful.

I was emailed back and told that he forewarded my e-mail to "scorpio" and that he was the one who could make things right...or not.

I have recieved no further response from them after repeated e-mails to them and conclude that one of two things are possible.

(1). That I have innocently been accused and senticed to a life sentence because of misunderstandings. If that is the case, then that is the reason for this post.

(2). That someone on that forum did not like the content of my website. And I dont mean the MLM part either. The actual information on my site could be the reason for me being banned from it. This does not make sense as there are many, many others who share with me these truths and have been in fact some of the very ones who opened my eyes to them. So someone controlling the site would have to be the one. In that case I ask others here who may be on that site to bring this to their attention.

My website is: http://www.truthofourtime.com

If this does not interest you then I ask that you simply let this go unchecked.

If you have any input or ideas I welcome them. I will post this same thread on all forums I am currently on.

In any event, I again thank you.

Below is the responce to the thread that I was never allowed to post:

**********************************

Wow, I certainly did not not want that to happen. I removed all the material about Global wealth from my website and was responding to the posts on my thread. When I went to set the record straight...the screen changed and said I had been banned from the site....


Here is my intended responce on my thread:

Wow!..A lot goes on while you are sleeping.

R MacDonald asked if I Will you be doing a section on Vaccination dangers? ie: autism?

Yes I have files on these and will be adding them as the site grows. Audio and eventually video also...including solutions to these problems and products for solutions to the problems. It takes Funds and I am very limited at this time...We have just begun.

mamboni says "I have a strange feeling.....like..I've seen you somewhere before"...
Well...I was adopted...you never know..:)

Halophyte noticed the ad for GLOBAL WEALTH. It is something I recently was exposed to and thought it might be a good way to help fund my Website and Research if it was successful. I need donations rather badly. It was new and looked promising. I have been exposed to MLM before and know of its potential.

I ask that Halophyte continue his trace and report his findings to us. I would like to know what you can find out about Global Wealth.

In the meantime, I have removed ALL material reguarding GLOBAL WEALTH from my website and it will not return...unless I am successful in earning income in it.
You have to understand that I have just started this website and have much, much more to add to it and need donations to ever come close to realising what I wish to accomplish with it...In case you didnt notice...the enemy is rolling in funds...funds mostly stolen from YOU and used against you...It will take resources to accomplish our goals.

Sukhoi_fan has a long list of info I have no idea of what it means...but it seems you know how to access information...your skills may come in very handy indeed. You also stated "It appears the entire website was uploaded minutes prior to the first post on GIM."

My website has been running for weeks now but I edit and add to it everyday. I would guess that when I make those adjustments to my website and hit the publish button that it updated the site and gave the impression that it was just created...because it actually was. But I assure you I have been publishing it for about a month or so now.

I havent figured out how to get the site in any search engines... yet another step to take.

R MacDonald then asks "Is this the same guy that's been trying to sell us the cheap iPods? Phone #s look familiar."

I can assure you that I am NOT the person you are speaking of. I have no part in whatever that is. And no phone numbers of mine have ever been listed here or on my site. My communication takes place through my long standing e-mail account. KJayL1@hotmail.com

You guys are tough...but your questions and observations are just...I like it...Remember that Truth floats and B.S. sinks.

I will tell you this...I will not Lie to you...and I require the same from you.

Thank you,

KJay

http://www.truthofourtime.com



Can you foreward this to whoever you can on the forums and help me clear this up?

I care a lot about the forum and I believe we are stronger working together
I'll be your huckleberry, friend!

3ill
29-04-2007, 05:03 PM
I've hit it in every forum and now I'm attcking every subforum. Oooooh, I love it!

3ill
29-04-2007, 05:14 PM
Every forum is headed by "A bit of unfair persecution from GiM. Trying to Help."

kjay
29-04-2007, 05:16 PM
Thank you for posting that on the GIM forum 3ill, I appreciate it.

KJay

kjay
29-04-2007, 05:24 PM
However, one post was sufficient...you have flooded the forum with multiple posts and that is not helping.

Calling it to thier attention is great...but flooding will surely not be taken well...

Kjay

kjay
29-04-2007, 05:34 PM
But then again...maybe it is a good thing.

Either way, Thank you...you sure responded and I appreciate it.

KJay

3ill
29-04-2007, 05:38 PM
Sorry friend. That's the way I work. One thread would have been passed on and noone would care. At leas they'll have a mess to clean up eh. I've been banned from forums for no reason before, so it pisses me off. Sorry.

What do you want with those Money-fucks for? To hell with them. You're more than welcome here. I already like you.

Anyone else want to help this poor fellow. I've already been banned but have hit every forum. Well, I tried.

Peace,
3'LL

kjay
29-04-2007, 06:07 PM
It appears there are more than one over there that creating trouble where none exist. Evidently they cant read or dont want to read what I have said.

They are complaining because I used a webhosting program from Infowars.com to create my website. Why not? It seemed affordable and probably safe from problems. They act like Alex Jones is attacking them himself. What a croc.

They complain that it is still an MLM scheme. They dont seem to be able to read that I immediately deleted the mlm ad on my site they were offended by DAYS ago because of their suspicions and are not the focus.

What a mess.

3ill
29-04-2007, 06:26 PM
Well then, I'm sure glad I caused them trouble. I'll be sure to do it agian in the future, as I've got a few friends that would let em use their comp.

Who's with me on lovebombing these guys?!?!

I love being mischevious!

3'LL

kjay
29-04-2007, 08:56 PM
They have responded to the posts here: http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/t131839-ct-shill-carpet-bombs-gim.html

It is obvious they did not read my words or yours...or that they did and did not wish to respond to them intelligently. I assure you I do not deserve what they have said.

Their motives for this can not be good.

I am also now wondering why I am even bothering with it.

KJay

3ill
29-04-2007, 09:38 PM
Well you seem pretty on point. I for one like having you around, and I really enjoyed messing with the money worshippers. Thanks for the fun, and hope you keep posting.

3'LL

john white
29-04-2007, 09:53 PM
Hey KayJ! Nice site you've got mate :)

kjay
29-04-2007, 10:18 PM
Well you seem pretty on point. I for one like having you around, and I really enjoyed messing with the money worshippers. Thanks for the fun, and hope you keep posting.

3'LL

You know, when you called them the "money worshippers", it brought to mind something I had not thought of. I am kinda slow sometimes...

Zionists are some of the biggest "money worshippers" there are and as you can tell by my website, I do not paint a very pretty picture of them.

In fact, it seems now that GIM may be controlled by a few Zionists because of the blatant lies that were said about me, someone they do not even know. It is one of the ways Zionism works...to act as if it is promoting something while at the same time it is only attempting to control it.

And lies are always at the core...why totally ignoring my message. Or the message of others.

Realize I am only talking about those who seem to be the problem. Not all of the people there .

Now I know why I am bothering with it.

KJay

seanx
29-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Read your website and you'll know why you were
banned.

Most websites would ban the hate material you
are promoting. Read our friend ranting on the 'Great Lie'

What is more worrying though how many people on this
website think your site is good.

Maybe if they read it all - they might get a better idea -
or maybe not!

kjay
30-04-2007, 01:56 AM
All truths passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -the philosopher Schopenauer-

“Wisdom is knowing how little we know.” ---Socrates

"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -Henry David Thoreau

There is a saying. It goes, "The capacity of the human mind to resist the intrusion of new knowledge, IS INFINITE". How true it is.

You see, Our enemy knows that we don’t do our homework, and that in fact is the Achilles Heel of America.
When we discover the truth, we will at first be disturbed as well as astonished.

In the end, however, it is the truth that will set us free.

Ignorance is not Bliss...it is Bondage. Wrong Assumptions Yield Wrong Answers.

It is very important to remember to speculate using our limited KNOWLEDGE, not BELIEF.

Belief can be the Enemy of Truth.

'I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong.' ~ Bertrand Russell

"Belief" may get you through the night, or even through many years of ignorance, but to use Belief as a basis of speculation about what really happened is not Honest Inquiry.

The best that Belief can do is to repeat the verbal source of the Belief. The more one repeats the quoted words, the more it seems as though the Belief is Real Knowledge. Add to that millions of other Believers repeating the same mantra over and over and over and the quoted words begin to take on the guise of Truth.

That is how people and governments get away with things all the time.

Honest Inquiry, on the other hand, tries to stand aside from all verbal imputs, even those that reflect the inquirer's own Beliefs.

Half truths are just as effective as a flat out lie. Hollywood are the masters of the half truth, and that's why a lot of the movies that come out of it tend to ring true. They distort historical facts with their own version of bullshit and put a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen saying that it is BASED ON A TRUE STORY, while all the while knowing that the young and impressionable will take it for gospel truth.

"And most of the evils of society can, in fact, be cured through information. We have a society that has been disinformed and based on the disinformation has made irrational choices. And that's what I mean by 'ignorance. " People, who ordinarily might be smart, are deprived of the data by which to make a rational decision, don't have the data to do it." Frank Zappa

The Bible states that in the last days people will think that "right shall be wrong and wrong shall be right."

Honest research is never meant to "hate" anything...just to reveal.

3ill
30-04-2007, 06:07 AM
Suddenly things get dark.

Nah. Whatever. I'm all for people believing what they want. Wully bully.

In any case, I just wanted a reason to pick on the Money worshippers. I'm sure people are smart to read and make up their own minds on what they believe or don't believe. Checked out your site, suspicious, but I'm not standing on any certainties. a few days, weeks of honest debate on the boards spills the blood and shows the color.

So feel free to debate friend. I'm more than interested in other people's opinions, whether I agree or disagree with them.

3'LL

edro9494
30-04-2007, 10:25 AM
thank you Kjay

people must realize that these forums are c0-0pted and controlled by disinfo agents.

whenever you post an idea, the responses suggest to others to not follow or look into the idea because of ad hominem suggestions they provide.

personal attacks are not sufficient reason and logic to debunk a claim. Ad hominem attacks should raise red flags to the reader.

people are paid by intel agencies to sit around and destroy rational discussion on each and every forum.

how do some junior and senior members have 400+ posts per month ratios? Do they ever sleep? how are they always on this forum?

ask yourselves do they advance discussion down the field or do they immediately dismantle the discussion.

i was banned by Tinmenace for saying "Get a fucking brain people," while talking about how agents are on forums. he said it was because of the aggressive and insulting manner in which i said the comment. well excuse me sir, i didnt know royalty was in the room.

Who watches the watchers? who moderators and bans these moderators when applicable?

kjay, and all others, read this report by eric hufshmid on how they infiltrate and control alternative movements. it is worth the time. especially the part about forums and message boards. http://iamthewitness.com/by_Hufschmid11Oct2005.htm

lumukanda
30-04-2007, 10:29 AM
we'd like people to treat each other with respect here edro, if you don't like that, feel free to go, get a fucking brain people is rude and insulting, it's not about royalty (which none of us would give a shit about anyway), but a little something called respect for other people, if you don't have any of that, i'm afraid your stay here isn't going to be very pleasant, or long.
you can say anything you like, but disrespect will not be tolerated.

edro9494
30-04-2007, 10:39 AM
thanks bud. but i think i feel free to STAY since i am a sovereign individual. stop destroying rational debate and we will treat you with the respect you would then deserve.

lumukanda
30-04-2007, 10:43 AM
you are more than welcome to stay, follow the guidelines and we'll be all good, when have i 'destroyed rational debate'? please give me links, and i'll even begin to take you seriously.

3ill
30-04-2007, 11:54 AM
I know a place where no cars go, if that helps you, eddie row.

3'LL

kjay
30-04-2007, 12:53 PM
thank you Kjay

people must realize that these forums are c0-0pted and controlled by disinfo agents.

whenever you post an idea, the responses suggest to others to not follow or look into the idea because of ad hominem suggestions they provide.

personal attacks are not sufficient reason and logic to debunk a claim. Ad hominem attacks should raise red flags to the reader.

people are paid by intel agencies to sit around and destroy rational discussion on each and every forum.

how do some junior and senior members have 400+ posts per month ratios? Do they ever sleep? how are they always on this forum?

ask yourselves do they advance discussion down the field or do they immediately dismantle the discussion.

i was banned by Tinmenace for saying "Get a fucking brain people," while talking about how agents are on forums. he said it was because of the aggressive and insulting manner in which i said the comment. well excuse me sir, i didnt know royalty was in the room.

Who watches the watchers? who moderators and bans these moderators when applicable?

kjay, and all others, read this report by eric hufshmid on how they infiltrate and control alternative movements. it is worth the time. especially the part about forums and message boards. http://iamthewitness.com/by_Hufschmid11Oct2005.htm

Thank you for that link edro9494...It was very interesting. And seems to explain quite a bit.

KJay

seanx
30-04-2007, 01:50 PM
I don't want kjay and his anti-jewish,christian fundamentaism
banned.

As David icke says in Tales of the time loop we must allow everyone
the FREEDOM to believe as they want. No matter how distasteful.

So I hope he stays and shows us all the ignorance of our ways -
and how we can become part of the 'chosen people.


But what is worrying is the amount of people on this forum who
think this site is good. Have you guys really read it all?

My own hunch is that this guy- kjay has read some of the ignorant
critics of David icke ( the Guardian and the Observer in the UK) who
are always trying to portray him as anti-semtic - and believed
what these critics were saying

And so thought this would be a perfect place to peddle his
ideas among 'like-mined people' .

Again, i hope you stay, mate but unfortunately david icke doesn't
believe the Jews are the 'evil ones'. Nor does he believe
the Christians are the evil ones either. or the Muslims.

What he attacks is the reptilian mentality that uses these
as 'fronts' to keep people trapped in the Martrix.

Yes, some of the Elite may call themselves 'Jewish', or like Bush
and Blair declare themselves 'Christians'.

But they are not, they're just 'roles' they play - in truth: they are just
promoting the 'God Martrix program'.

So kjay - allow yourself to open your mind - even for a little while.
Read Tales of the Time LOOP and Infinite love is the only truth.

I'm NOT asking you to believe it or accept any of it....but let
yourself consider another viewpoint and not just the rigid nature
of Christian fundamentaism.

Then you too can tell us why you believe otherwise.