Russian tanks 'rolling into Georgian breakaway'

[realitycheck]

So anyone on here moaning about a 1 world goverment will soon be wishing there was 1 - If it isnt all a show.
You cant please some people.

What im sure of is that alot of innocent people will die of the actions of this 'game' - It might not affect you, but it will someone.

We are all good at saying how much we want the world to be fair, but if it meant sacrificing our own happiness and wealth we would soon shut up and change the subject. Some people just talk the talk.

[moonfly]

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/29622


August 28, 2008, 18:22
Russia tests intercontinental missile in Kamchatka
Russia has successfully tested an intercontinental ballistic missile. The country's Defence Ministry has reported that it hit the target on the testing ground in the far eastern region of Kamchatka.

The Ministry claims the weapon is capable of bypassing the most advanced missile defence systems.

Although it has been on stand-by for 21 years, the Ministry said the weapon has shown it can effectively hit high-security facilities.

[peachped]

U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.


Neither the owner of the passport nor his remains were found at the scene, despite a thorough search.



http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/29636

[lordzoma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziAkHOXxMoM

[pheony]

Way to go Alex...Well done.:)

[amerigirl]

Kremlin announces that South Ossetia will join 'one united Russian state'

LINK (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4635843.ece)

[peachped]

Interesting blog...

http://europebusines.blogspot.com/


If the Convention treaty is violated by NATO it will be a technical state of war. Russia has warned Turkey that she will be held responsible if additional warships are allowed into the Black Sea; already Turkey has prevented some US naval ships from entering. The total tonnage limit on naval ships is 45,000 tons. The US sought to send the USNS Comfort and the USNS Mercy, hospital ships whose tonnages both exceeded 69,000 tons each, through the Turkish Straits but Turkey would not allow it. As the hospital ships are not really needed, this was simply an attempt by the Bush Administration to violate the Montreux Convention and to get by with it by insisting that no rational nation could object to hospital ships. General Nogovitsyn has pointed out that US Navy ships in the Black Sea have nuclear armed cruise missiles capable of striking at most of European Russia including St. Petersburg and that these ships are considered "a serious threat to our security".

The Russians suspect that the US Navy is delivering arms to Georgia under the cover of civilian aid. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said, "Normally battleships do not deliver aid and this is battleship diplomacy, this does not make the situation more stable".

Russian Admiral Eduard Balin (former commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet) was quoted by Russian news media as saying, "Despite the apparent strength of the NATO naval group in the Black Sea....a single salvo from the Moskva missile cruiser and two or thee missile boats would be enough to annihilate the entire group. Within twenty minutes the waters would be clear." The Moskva is the world's only currently serving 'heavy battle cruiser' and the most powerful non-carrier surface ship in the world.

Last paragraph...

There are various theories as to why the United States (or more specifically why the neo-cons who control the US government) would want to push Russia into a global war; just as there are various theories why tiny Israel would want to involve itself in a battle against a massive nuclear power like Russia, who could turn Iran and Syria into nuclear armed states overnight if it chose to. Many say that the neo-cons are simply crazy and that their maneuvers have failed. Others would say that the neo-cons are simply pawns in a larger Grand Strategy game that the global banking families have been playing for a couple of centuries and that a Third World War is required to establish the New World Order/global government that they intend to establish and establish soon. If the latter is the case, a little thing like advanced 21st Century warfare will get in the way. There is simply NO WAY that mankind can survive a Third World War, except for Divine intervention. The levels of destructive firepower and technology are simply too great.

[annuskatus]

"'Either pay up or give us back our vehicles, guys,'"

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/29654

:D :D :D

[papiowhisperer]

Interesting blog...

http://europebusines.blogspot.com/


If the Convention treaty is violated by NATO it will be a technical state of war. Russia has warned Turkey that she will be held responsible if additional warships are allowed into the Black Sea; already Turkey has prevented some US naval ships from entering. The total tonnage limit on naval ships is 45,000 tons. The US sought to send the USNS Comfort and the USNS Mercy, hospital ships whose tonnages both exceeded 69,000 tons each, through the Turkish Straits but Turkey would not allow it. As the hospital ships are not really needed, this was simply an attempt by the Bush Administration to violate the Montreux Convention and to get by with it by insisting that no rational nation could object to hospital ships. General Nogovitsyn has pointed out that US Navy ships in the Black Sea have nuclear armed cruise missiles capable of striking at most of European Russia including St. Petersburg and that these ships are considered "a serious threat to our security".

The Russians suspect that the US Navy is delivering arms to Georgia under the cover of civilian aid. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said, "Normally battleships do not deliver aid and this is battleship diplomacy, this does not make the situation more stable".

Russian Admiral Eduard Balin (former commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet) was quoted by Russian news media as saying, "Despite the apparent strength of the NATO naval group in the Black Sea....a single salvo from the Moskva missile cruiser and two or thee missile boats would be enough to annihilate the entire group. Within twenty minutes the waters would be clear." The Moskva is the world's only currently serving 'heavy battle cruiser' and the most powerful non-carrier surface ship in the world.

Last paragraph...

There are various theories as to why the United States (or more specifically why the neo-cons who control the US government) would want to push Russia into a global war; just as there are various theories why tiny Israel would want to involve itself in a battle against a massive nuclear power like Russia, who could turn Iran and Syria into nuclear armed states overnight if it chose to. Many say that the neo-cons are simply crazy and that their maneuvers have failed. Others would say that the neo-cons are simply pawns in a larger Grand Strategy game that the global banking families have been playing for a couple of centuries and that a Third World War is required to establish the New World Order/global government that they intend to establish and establish soon. If the latter is the case, a little thing like advanced 21st Century warfare will get in the way. There is simply NO WAY that mankind can survive a Third World War, except for Divine intervention. The levels of destructive firepower and technology are simply too great.
Good find, Thanks. We're screwed.

[thedame]

How this all ties in with the U.S. election is also pretty worrying, and a classic 'problem-reaction-solution.' The news reports of Putin suggesting that the Georgian attack on South Ossetia was orchestrated by the US have been played down, but it seems pretty uncanny that a situation is evolving in which the US has perhaps to become more militaristic when the Republican party is struggling behind a resurgent Democrat party. A war with Russia would be pretty beneficial to the American Right. Of course, both parties are essentially the same force, but it's an interesting point.

A war between the superpowers would also lead to a situation where 'world unity' would be implemented to 'prevent such things happening again.' Ring a bell?

Also, check this out: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/31/russia.georgia

It's Gordon Brown (remember him?) saying not very much at all but making explicit references to new world orderism. The comments below are pretty good too, especially when commenting on Gordon's guff about how Russia shouldn't have invaded Georgia and how that compares to the USA invading Iraq.

[peachped]

How this all ties in with the U.S. election is also pretty worrying, and a classic 'problem-reaction-solution.' The news reports of Putin suggesting that the Georgian attack on South Ossetia was orchestrated by the US have been played down, but it seems pretty uncanny that a situation is evolving in which the US has perhaps to become more militaristic when the Republican party is struggling behind a resurgent Democrat party. A war with Russia would be pretty beneficial to the American Right. Of course, both parties are essentially the same force, but it's an interesting point.

A war between the superpowers would also lead to a situation where 'world unity' would be implemented to 'prevent such things happening again.' Ring a bell?

Also, check this out: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/31/russia.georgia

It's Gordon Brown (remember him?) saying not very much at all but making explicit references to new world orderism. The comments below are pretty good too, especially when commenting on Gordon's guff about how Russia shouldn't have invaded Georgia and how that compares to the USA invading Iraq.


Listening to Brown and Milliband it's as if the Georgian attack on South Ossetia never happened, they just seem to airbrush the truth from reality.

Interesting that Brown uses this quote..

'More than 10 years ago Alexander Solzhenitsyn - who died just days before this latest chapter in the history of his country - wrote:

'We were recently entertained by a naive fable of the happy arrival of the end of history, of the overflowing triumph of an all-democratic bliss; the ultimate global arrangement had supposedly been attained.

But we all see and sense that something very different is coming, something new, and perhaps quite stern. No, tranquillity does not promise to descend on our planet, and will not be granted us so easily.'

The past few days have seen some of his predictions realised.' ~ Gordon Brown.

[peachped]

US intelligence fears the Kremlin will supply the sophisticated S-300 system to Tehran if Washington pushes through Nato membership for its pro-Western neighbours Georgia and Ukraine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2651516/Russia-threatens-to-supply-Iran-with-top-new-missile-system-as-cold-war-escalates.html

The proposed deal is causing huge alarm in the US and Israel as the S-300 can track 100 targets at once and fire on planes up to 75 miles away.

That would make it a "game-changer", greatly improving Iranian defences against any air strike on its nuclear sites, according to Pentagon adviser Dan Goure. "This is a system that scares every Western air force," he said.

A senior Iranian military commander warned yesterday that any attack on Iran would start a major conflict. "Any aggression against Iran will start a world war," deputy chief of staff for defence publicity, Brigadier General Masoud Jazayeri, said in a statement. "The unrestrained greed of the US leadership and global Zionism... is gradually leading the world to the edge of a precipice."

[cleopatraxxx]

how sad all this history of humankind is

i am not affraid of dying, i am only saddened by the fact that i will not be able to choose and do so because i am a mother! would be egoistic on my behalf and irresponsible if i did so

i've always said: what for do we want more kids brought into this crazy place?

but people FALL in love, they become trapped in the illusion of a beautiful world. they dream and loose their ability to distinguish the reality from real life

imagine the children loosing their parents due to a WW(3)...for the sake of what?!?!?!?!?!?! but the illuminati, whoever they are arent worried, all they need is more control and orphans will serve them greatly...

ridiculous

[karlosdaze]

Talking of kids.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ

[stelios]

US intelligence fears the Kremlin will supply the sophisticated S-300 system to Tehran if Washington pushes through Nato membership for its pro-Western neighbours Georgia and Ukraine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2651516/Russia-threatens-to-supply-Iran-with-top-new-missile-system-as-cold-war-escalates.html

The proposed deal is causing huge alarm in the US and Israel as the S-300 can track 100 targets at once and fire on planes up to 75 miles away.

That would make it a "game-changer", greatly improving Iranian defences against any air strike on its nuclear sites, according to Pentagon adviser Dan Goure. "This is a system that scares every Western air force," he said.

A senior Iranian military commander warned yesterday that any attack on Iran would start a major conflict. "Any aggression against Iran will start a world war," deputy chief of staff for defence publicity, Brigadier General Masoud Jazayeri, said in a statement. "The unrestrained greed of the US leadership and global Zionism... is gradually leading the world to the edge of a precipice."

I hope the Russians do supply this system.
The only way to ensure that war does not take place is if the USA/Israel believe they will get blowback. They are a couple of bullies and would happily destroy countries but any hint of retaliation and they will move on and look for weaker softer targets.
South Korea played tough and they left them alone, hopefully they will leave Iran alone too.

But all it takes is an Israeli false flag and the US will be sucked in again.

[pheony]

I hope the Russians do supply this system.
The only way to ensure that war does not take place is if the USA/Israel believe they will get blowback. They are a couple of bullies and would happily destroy countries but any hint of retaliation and they will move on and look for weaker softer targets.
South Korea played tough and they left them alone, hopefully they will leave Iran alone too.

But all it takes is an Israeli false flag and the US will be sucked in again.

This is what i think as well.

[ichi wa zen]

Funny thing. Once upon a time, on this earth a long long time ago, Georgia was called Khazar.

Those damn Khazar *#3%R@$%^!#@)F are at it again.

[stelios]

Funny thing. Once upon a time, on this earth a long long time ago, Georgia was called Khazar.

Those damn Khazar *#3%R@$%^!#@)F are at it again.

Too true
the Miliband boys, Sharkozy, and the 911 gang all working together to start a new war
back in their true homeland

[timezone]

Israel’s senior ministers confer urgently on Iran as US masses air-naval might in Middle East waters

Wednesday, Sept 10, 2008

Prime minister Ehud Olmert summoned defense minister Ehud Barak and foreign minister Tzipi Livni for an urgent consultation on Iran Wed. Sept. 10, as the USS Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier headed out to the Mediterranean for missions “in support of maritime security.”

Its arrival will bring the number of US aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean, Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea to four, compared with two Russian warships. Most of the Russian fleet in the region is concentrated in the Black Sea whence it has easy and rapid access to Middle East waters.

The Roosevelt will be followed by its strike force, which includes the guided missile cruiser Monterey , the guided missile destroyers Mason and Nitze , with 7,300 sailors and marines aboard, and the attack submarine Springfield.

Our sources report that the USS Ronald Reagan carrier and its strike group began engaging in assault and support missions for US and NATO forces in Afghanistan on Aug. 28.

The Iwo Jima carrier group, whose decks carry 6,000 sailors, air crews and marines, supports the US Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean and Fifth Fleet in the Gulf with a massive amphibious capability.

The USS San Antonio amphibious transport dock ship is the first vessel of its class to be deployed in the region as a platform for supporting Marine movements and operations ashore.

The USS Peleliu carrier patrols the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. It is escorted by vessels carrying a large Marine contingent.

Monday, Iran launched a three-day naval-air-missile exercise to practice defense tactics for its nuclear sites.

[moonshine]

Georgian breakaway 'will join Russia'

MOSCOW, Russia (AP) -- The leader of South Ossetia said Thursday that the breakaway Georgian region intends to become part of Russia, news agencies reported.
Eduard Kokoity says South Ossetia will eventually become part of Russia.

Eduard Kokoity says South Ossetia will eventually become part of Russia.

Eduard Kokoity's comments -- to a group of Western foreign policy experts meeting in the Russian Black Sea city of Sochi -- are the latest confirmation of the tiny region's long-standing efforts to move permanently out of Georgian government control.

"Yes, certainly, we will become part of Russia," Kokoity was quoted as saying by Interfax, "and we are not going to make some independent Ossetia, because our ancestors made this choice, and this is how it happened historically."

Russia recognized South Ossetia as an independent nation, along with another separatist region, Abkhazia, after last month's Russian-Georgian war over the regions.


Though there has been no official Russian comment on South Ossetia's status, Moscow is likely to agree to annex South Ossetia and unite its residents with their ethnic brethren in North Ossetia.

That would further infuriate the Georgians, who are determined to bring both South Ossetia and Abkhazia under government control.

War broke after Georgian forces launched an offensive August 7 to retake South Ossetia. Russian forces then routed Georgia's military and drove deep into Georgia.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/09/11/sossetia.russia.ap/

[moonshine]

South Ossetia pledge to join Russia

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f6b04e8c-7fe2-11dd-8eeb-000077b07658.html

South Ossetia aims to join Russia, leader says

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSLB71878720080911

[moonshine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNaqjB0sJF4

[peachped]

If you live in Israel, Lebanon, Syria, or Iran, I recommend that you take a long vacation in a different part of the world for the next few months (rest of the year at least). What is about to happen is going to be horrible beyond belief. Get out while you can.




Russian Rear Admiral Andrei Baranov has disclosed that 10 Russian warships are already anchored at the Syrian port of Tartus. Russian engineering crews are widening and dredging the port to accommodate additional Russian warships.

The Russians are making clear their intentions of using the large Russian naval presence in Tartus as a deterrent to Israeli air strikes against Syria using the powerful anti-air missiles on-board the Russian naval warships. These missile systems can sweep the sky over most of Syria and knock down Israeli F-15 and F-16 fighters. This changes the balance of power in the air over Syria.

This also places a tripwire for World War III in place in the Middle East. Any attack on Iran will also involve a war with Syria and Lebanon. This will now involve Russian military forces in direct support of the Iranian/Syrian alliance. Russia is a major nuclear power with the power to destroy every American and NATO city. George Bush has just agreed to sell Israel 1,000 very advanced American bunker buster bombs for use in the coming war with Iran, Syria, and Lebanon.

The neo-cons are going to get most of us killed.


http://europebusines.blogspot.com/

[lenejento]

Get the deffinate feeling of Cold War atm.

[hw spartan]

Yes, ive been telling my freinds ever since China won the Olympic bid.
"We are lucky now, we have time, until the 2008 Olympics is over"
my freinds are still wondering if all this might bring WW3.
but i saw it comeing from elsewhere, i only knew they where to use the Olympics as starting point. in honour of the serpent dragon.
next honour?
2012 the false lion, will he see the Olympics???
:cool:

[synergy777]

"Dangerous gulf" opens between Russia and West A very reliable psychic friend has informed us that growing differences with Russia will escalate into direct military confrontation, possibly within 12 to 18 months. The likely trigger being the current face off between Israel and Iran

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9421

"Dangerous gulf" opens between Russia and West

Michael Stott – Reuters September 25, 2008

The West's pillorying of Moscow over last month's invasion of Georgia has kindled a fierce Russian resentment that poses dangers for security in Europe and in trouble spots beyond.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice lectured Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov during a United Nations gathering in New York, telling him Russia was now isolated. Lavrov countered that his appointment book for the meeting had never been fuller.

Behind the studiedly gentle riposte lay a sense, echoed on the streets in Russia, that the West was not granting resurgent Russia the respect it feels it merits. Animosities ascribed in earlier times to ideological schism between communism and capitalism are proving hardier than many might have expected.
Russia's sense of grievance over the Georgian war stems from Western governments' unwillingness to acknowledge publicly what many say privately – that Tbilisi started the conflict.

Adding insult to injury for the Russians is strong Western support for Georgian leader Mikheil Saakashvili – loathed by Moscow – and Western media coverage which has overwhelmingly favored Georgia during the conflict.

"Never in the past quarter century have Russia and the West differed so much over the interpretation of the same event," wrote political commentator Georgy Bovt in an opinion piece entitled "Divorce with the West" on the gazeta.ru news site.

"Never before has the behavior of Russia been presented in Western media in such a diametrically opposite way to the way that behavior is perceived in Russian public opinion."

Further stoking resentment is a string of recent Western moves seen as hostile by Moscow.

In Russian eyes, the West snubbed it by recognizing the independence of Kosovo, ignored its objections to a U.S. anti-missile system in eastern Europe, didn't listen to its criticism of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and broke a promise made to Moscow in the 1990s not to expand NATO to its borders.

Now Russia's patience has snapped.


RUSSIA LOST

Top diplomats stationed in Moscow privately despair over how, as one put it, "we have lost Russia completely over Georgia." Even normally pro-Western intellectuals and their own Russian embassy employees had turned against them.

"There's no one in this society who sees things our way," one senior Western diplomat commented.

"Russians are reacting to 18 years of condescension and being ignored by the West. They have had enough."

President Dmitry Medvedev summarized the changed public mood in his remarks at a meeting with Western analysts on September 12.

"I think for a vast majority of our citizens the events in the Caucasus means the loss of the remaining illusions of the period when Russia emerged as an independent state," he said referring to Russia's 1990s honeymoon with the West.

Russia's loss of trust in the West over Georgia could have serious consequences for peace in Europe, with neighboring Ukraine looming as the next potential battleground between a fearful and mistrustful West and an angry, emboldened Russia.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Moscow Jack Matlock criticized moves to draw Georgia and Ukraine into NATO, a policy that he said could split Ukraine. As long as the West followed this course, true strategic co-operation with Moscow was impossible.

"We are in a deep crisis," a second senior Moscow diplomat said. "We have embarked on a confrontation course which it is very difficult to pull back from."

The West seeks Russian co-operation in a host of security problems from Iran's nuclear program to Islamist militancy from the Caucasus to Afghanistan.

In an echo of Cold War posturing, Moscow has dispatched a flotilla of warships to America's backyard for joint maneuvers proposed by Venezuela's anti-American President Hugo Chavez. On a weightier issue, Moscow signaled it would not back any move for major powers to discuss Iran's nuclear program at the U.N.

Opinion polls show overwhelming popular support for President Dmitry Medvedev's decision to send troops into Georgia and a dramatic hardening of attitudes toward the West.


KREMLIN MEDIA CONTROL

A regular survey by the independent Levada Centre published this week showed Russians' views of relations with the United States plummeting by 40 points between July and September to their most negative level since polling began in 1997. There was a 29-point drop in support for relations with Europe.

"It's quite difficult to be pro-Western in the current situation," said Fyodor Lukyanov, editor of Russia in Global Affairs, a Moscow-based foreign policy journal.

"The consensus is there in Russia that the West cannot be trusted."

At the same time, some Western media, drawing on Cold War stereotypes, have painted a picture of an aggressive and dangerous Russian bear on the prowl.

"I understand the value of investing in this place but my biggest problem is that back home, a lot of people watching CNN think this place is one notch above North Korea," said one frustrated U.S. fund manager visiting Moscow last week.
Andrew Somers, president of the American-Russian Chamber of Commerce, said a number of large U.S. corporations already active in Russia were putting big future investment projects on hold, partly because of the hostile media coverage.

"The image of Russia is very bad and some of the press coverage is way out of context," he said.

President Vladimir Putin, renown for his acid comments about the West, took a swipe at Western media coverage of the Georgian war at a meeting with the Western analysts on September 11.

"I was surprised by the power of the Western propaganda machine," he said. "I congratulate all who were involved in it. This was a wonderful job. But the result was bad and will always be bad because this was a dishonest and immoral work."

To be fair, the public mood over the war in Russia is not totally spontaneous. Russia's Kremlin-controlled television channels have worked hard to keep popular wrath high.

Images of destroyed houses and dead civilians in South Ossetia dominated television screens. Newsmakers denounced "Georgian Nazism" and condemned the West which backed Tbilisi.

One unintended result of the media war: Western criticism of Russia's generally Kremlin-friendly media will now fall on deaf ears. Many feel the Western press is as biased as their own.

"Discussion about freedom of the press is over here," the second diplomat said.

"Our Russian colleagues tell us how they have seen how Western television channels manipulate and distort the truth over Georgia so they need no lessons from us on press freedom."

www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSTRE48O4DZ20080925?sp=true

[drakul]

The article left out a crucial turning point - the 1999 US/HATO bombing of longtime Russian ally - Serbia. This is the event which brought the unknown nationalist FSB colonel Vladimir Putin to power (1999) and the drunken buffoon Yeltsin was unceremoniously put out to pasture.

[synergy777]

Russia Warns Georgia against Support for US War on in Iran Essentially Russia says that any Georgian assistance to a U.S. military strike on Iran will be viewed as a threat to Russia itself. In other words, the battle lines for future conflict are now being drawn

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9444

Russia Warns Georgia against Support for US War on in Iran
FARS News Agency – October 2, 2008

Moscow said that the involvement of Georgia by the United States into a military operation against Iran will pose an additional threat to Russia's national security.

"If it decides to carry out rocket and bomb attacks against Iran, the US will need loyal allies. And if Georgia is involved in this war, this will pose additional threats to Russia's national security," Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev said in an interview with the Izvestiya newspaper on Thursday.

Asked what he thought about a theoretical situation whereby Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili confused US far-reaching plans to carry out rocket and bomb attacks on Iran from Georgian territory, Patrushev said, "If the US does decide to begin an armed aggression against Iran, then Georgia is not the only place, from which they can theoretically attack the country. But your version too has the right to exist."

"And the US president's speech at the United Nations General Assembly contained words of gratefulness to Georgia and Ukraine for courage and sacrifice," said the secretary of the Russian Security Council.

The United States and its staunch ally Israel accuse Iran of seeking a nuclear weapon, while they have never presented any corroborative document to substantiate their allegations. Both Washington and Tel Aviv possess advanced weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear warheads.

Iran vehemently denies the charges, insisting that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only. Tehran stresses that the country has always pursued a civilian path to provide power to the growing number of Iranian population, whose fossil fuel would eventually run dry.

Speculation that Israel could bomb Iran has mounted since a big Israeli air drill in June. In the first week of June, 100 Israeli F-16 and F-15 fighters reportedly took part in an exercise over the eastern Mediterranean and Greece, which was interpreted as a dress rehearsal for a possible attack on Iran's nuclear installations.

Iran has, in return, warned that it would target Israel and its worldwide interests in case it comes under attack by the Tel Aviv.

The United States has also always stressed that military action is a main option for the White House to deter Iran's progress in the field of nuclear technology.

Iran has warned it could close the strategic Strait of Hormoz if it became the target of a military attack over its nuclear program.

Strait of Hormoz, the entrance to the strategic Persian Gulf waterway, is a major oil shipping route.

Intensified threats by Tel Aviv and Washington of military action against Iran contradict a recent report by 16 US intelligence bodies which endorsed the civilian nature of Iran's nuclear plans and activities.

Following the US National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) and similar reports by the IAEA head - one in November and the other one in February - which praised Iran's truthfulness about key aspects of its past nuclear activities and announced settlement of outstanding issues with Tehran, any effort to impose further sanctions or launch military attack on Iran seems to be completely irrational.

The February report by the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, praised Iran's cooperation in clearing up all of the past questions over its nuclear program, vindicating Iran's nuclear program and leaving no justification for any new UN sanctions.

The UN nuclear watchdog has also carried out at least 14 surprise inspections of Iran's nuclear sites so far, but found nothing to support West's allegations.

Following the said reports by the US and international bodies, many world states have called the UN Security Council pressure against Tehran unjustified, demanding that Iran's case be normalized and returned from the UNSC to the IAEA.

Meantime, a recent study by the Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS), a prestigious American think tank, has found that a military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities "is unlikely" to delay the country's program.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8707110398

[stelios]

Im glad Russia is showing a bit of balls.
What they say is totally spot on.
The whole reason for Israel getiing it's hooks into Georgia was to use it as an attack base. Knowing that retalliation would not come their way.
Now at least they have to think twice which is probably why they havent done the deed yet.
Although i am pretty sure the former Mossad officer Tipi Livni will have a few decietful ploys up her sleeve.

[synergy777]

the game/plan is gaining momentum.

russia, iran, china will square up to usa, israel.

although to be frank, imho, the elite own all sides, and the heads of all these countries are elite agents.

[synergy777]

stelios, add me to your myspace, when i click on your link, nothing shows up bro.

[stelios]

stelios, add me to your myspace, when i click on your link, nothing shows up bro.


Hiya mate, yes it looks like you have been added.
It does seem to be loading very slowly for some reason.

[synergy777]

cheers bro

ps, are you greek?

[jennf]

Russia Accuses Georgia of ‘New Hostilities’


By OLESYA VARTANYAN and ELLEN BARRY
Published: October 6, 2008

KARALETI, Georgia – Russia accused the Georgian government on Monday of “seeking to provoke new hostilities” even as Russian peacekeepers were dismantling key checkpoints outside the separatist enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

News Media Feel Limits to Georgia’s Democracy (October 7, 2008) Authorities in Abkhazia said that an Abkhaz border guard was killed on Monday after exchanging fire with gunmen on the Georgian side. On Friday, a car bomb in the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali killed eight Russian soldiers and three Ossetian civilians.

Russia has said Georgia is responsible for these and three other attacks in the disputed territories in recent days. Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, made a formal appeal to his French counterpart, Bernard Kouchner, on Monday, asking the European Union to “take necessary measures to stabilize the situation in keeping with its commitments.” A peace deal brokered by President Nicolas Sarkozy of France set Oct. 10, this Friday, as the deadline for Russian troops to withdraw from the buffer zones outside the enclaves.

Shota Utiashvili, a senior official at Georgia’s interior ministry, denied any Georgian involvement in the attacks, saying it opposed any delay in the withdrawal.

“All of Georgia is looking forward to the withdrawal of Russian forces from the so-called buffer zone, and later from Abkhazia and South Ossetia,” he said. “This a completely absurd accusation.”

In Karaleti, a village two miles north of Gori, ethnic Georgians passed freely through a Russian checkpoint whose soldiers were busy winding up barbed wire, washing their clothes and packing their possessions.

A local farmer, Vitaly Shavshishvili, 34, had heard the Russians were leaving, but he wanted to see for himself. Though Karaleti has been peaceful, he said, his neighbors were afraid to leave their homes after dark, and he prayed for the return of Georgian police.

During the aftermath of the August war between the countries, he said, his harvest of fruits and vegetables had rotted on the vine, costing him about $3,500, which he had hoped would last him a whole year.

“Now we have hope only in God,” he said. “We have nothing to survive.”

Another woman, who passed the checkpoint on a donkey cart, said she thought she would never feel safe in her home again. Even the returning Georgian authorities scared her.

“At least they should give us all guns, so we can defend ourselves,” said Galina Gogiashvili, 68.

Russian troops have been dismantling checkpoints for days, under the watch of some 200 European Union observers who began patrols in the buffer zone last week. Maj. Gen. Marat Kulakhmetov, commander of Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia, said early Monday that the six southernmost posts would be removed within 24 hours.

But authorities in Abkhazia said that a border guard had been fatally wounded in a gunfight in the village of Nabakevi, near the border with Georgia. Military officials in Abkhazia also said a convoy of retreating peacekeepers narrowly escaped being injured in an explosion.

In a statement, Russia’s foreign ministry blamed Georgia for the attacks.

“The impression is that some forces in Tbilisi, who oppose the normal and smooth transition of functions in the security zones in South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Russian peacekeepers to European Union observers, are deliberately trying to escalate tensions and seeking to provoke new hostilities through a series of terrorist acts,” the statement read.

But Mr. Utiashvili, the Georgian official, said “there was no shootout with Georgian forces,” and that Georgia had no role in any attacks.

The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe also protested allegations printed in the Russian press that the car that exploded in Tskhinvali on Friday, killing 11 people, had traveled into the area as part of an O.S.C.E. convoy. Ambassador Terhi Hakala, head of the O.S.C.E. mission to Georgia, said she was “outraged” at the report.

“The spreading of untruthful propaganda about the Mission – which includes several previous entirely false accounts connected with O.S.C.E. staff and premises – is a serious matter, endangers O.S.C.E. personnel and may be taken as a signal of unwillingness on the part of those responsible to work constructively,” she said.



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/world/europe/07russia.html

[duckingdafta]

cheers bro

ps, are you greek?

{off topic!} my old mum used to say that to me when she couldn't understand the new kids way of talking back in my Ska boy days... it just made me laugh as I'm a Lancs with a Yorks accent!

[onourwayto2012]

"During the aftermath of the August war between the countries, he said, his harvest of fruits and vegetables had rotted on the vine, costing him about $3,500, which he had hoped would last him a whole year."
This is one of the many types of side effects of this crap that gets little notice because of the REALLY bad shit.

[lewi]

An Eye is Being Kept On Russia Palin Says !!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
The Worst Interview Ever !!

How Can She Be The Next V.P She Doesnt Even Know What The Job Intails.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oro2Yh9HoEM

Didnt Mccain Say This Is Not The Time For On The Job Training Palin Lmao.