The Theosophical Society

[them]

I would be very interested in hearing opinions regarding The Theosophical Society in England. Especially from The baron, if he/you is/are aware of this group.

I met some fantastic people from the Theosophical Society today, by chance whilst I was visiting a nature reserve, who were full of fascinating information.

One of the people I bumped into was Scott Olsen (http://www.emis.de/journals/NNJ/GA-v4n1-Olsen.html). What a nice man he was too :)

http://www.theosophical-society.org.uk/

http://www.sociedadteosofica.es/Noticias/Image1.gif

[lenejento]

What I have seen of it, it doesen't seem bad to me. :)

[ichi wa zen]

They are bad for one's health! They are New Age. Listening to them will give you headaches. One denies what the other affirms. Useless trivia knowledge aimed at smart intelligent people who cannot sit still for half an hour without blinking their eyes.

Stay away from Blavatsky and her groupies!

[them]

They are bad for one's health! They are New Age. Listening to them will give you headaches. One denies what the other affirms. Useless trivia knowledge aimed at smart intelligent people who cannot sit still for half an hour without blinking their eyes.

Stay away from Blavatsky and her groupies!

Geometry is not New Age. That Olsen character I linked to upstairs :rolleyes: understands Geometry.. across the whole spectrum of the discipline.

Geometry interests me.

But what else do they get up to?


They mentioned lodges
They didn't know who Tsarion was
They had mixed opinions regarding Icke


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[baron von lotsov]

I'm not at all surprised what with your 1001 Club connections. Theosophy is the basis of the New Age. It's an occult thing, it's high level and apparently Hitler was one at some point. There's loads of material on it on the Web so no point in me repeating it all here. You can read the story about how it happened and how the information was channelled to this woman who later sussed out she had been set up by the masons at the time and promptly quit. It was supposed to go secret for 100 years and that time ended in 1975. Now they want to make it happen, so to speak. The high level illuminati occultist that run this town do a three year course in it before being initiated to a formal position within the Illuminati, of which our town is part of the Wicca section.

[baron von lotsov]

He received his M.A. in Philosophy in 1977 from Birkbeck College, University of London where he studied Plato & Aristotle with David Hamlyn, and philosophy of space-time with the physicist David Bohm"

David Bohm worked on the Manhattan Project but I see Wikipedia is now spinning that one a bit!

David Bohm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[them]

I agree with you.

It's making me think a little bit about sacred geometry/geometry and how this discipline has been co-opted by them & why...

as the devil take my soul, it's been around for ever afore thee.

http://www.d.umn.edu/~pnuhring/BlasketFromClasach.jpg

[baron von lotsov]

By the looks of things you have not just picked a common and lowly freemason type. Looking at who he is it has all the hallmarks of someone high up. And yes they are not your archetypal comic book villains either; the real ones are experts at appearing like extremely nice people. Don't let on you know all this though, you will find out much more just by observing.

[danster82]

I like it

[romas]

[CENTER]I agree with you.

It's making me think a little bit about sacred geometry/geometry and how this discipline has been co-opted by them & why...

as the devil take my soul, it's been around for ever afore thee.




Hey sorry for a little off topic, but the quote in your sig, where is that from I forgot :S

[mahabaratara]

blavatsky totally raped other peoples work and took the credit she has mixed in truths with outright fanatsies from others I have spoken to...

study the originla texts...

[them]

By the looks of things you have not just picked a common and lowly freemason type. Looking at who he is it has all the hallmarks of someone high up. And yes they are not your archetypal comic book villains either; the real ones are experts at appearing like extremely nice people. Don't let on you know all this though, you will find out much more just by observing.

I looked on their site and they have some stuff going on in Bristol this Friday. I'm going to go & have a look to see what they're blathering on about.

Hey sorry for a little off topic, but the quote in your sig, where is that from I forgot :S

William Butler Yeats. My favourite poet, atm :)

blavatsky totally raped other peoples work and took the credit she has mixed in truths with outright fanatsies from others I have spoken to...

study the original texts...

That's the impression I get, the original texts are a much healthier source of knowledge.

Which texts would you recommend beginning with, mahabaratara?

Cuchulain Comforted - by - William Butler Yeats

A MAN that had six mortal wounds, a man
Violent and famous, strode among the dead;
Eyes stared out of the branches and were gone.

Then certain Shrouds that muttered head to head
Came and were gone. He leant upon a tree
As though to meditate on wounds and blood.

A Shroud that seemed to have authority
Among those bird-like things came, and let fall
A bundle of linen. Shrouds by two and three

Came creeping up because the man was still.
And thereupon that linen-carrier said:
'Your life can grow much sweeter if you will

'Obey our ancient rule and make a shroud;
Mainly because of what we only know
The rattle of those arms makes us afraid.

'We thread the needles' eyes, and all we do
All must together do.' That done, the man
Took up the nearest and began to sew.

'Now must we sing and sing the best we can,
But first you must be told our character:
Convicted cowards all, by kindred slain

'Or driven from home and left to die in fear.'
They sang, but had nor human tunes nor words,
Though all was done in common as before;

They had changed their throats and had the throats of birds.

[space lizard]

I've got a DVD called "The Occult Roots of the Third Reich" - Blavatsky started all that Aryan Supermen shite that Hitler got into, She's also largely responsible for the SS's obsession with Eugenics.

All these mystery schools are just another bullshite form of religion that cause wars.

[alexph777]

Thank you for bring this up. I really like to get to the bottom of this. I get really bad vibes from the whole thing. I did join for a few months in the past when I was going through a lot of low self esteem and didn't know who to talk to about like minded subjects. On the first day there was appalling heavy energy at the regular weekly meetings that they had including their material. Although the people there are nice and perhaps don't realise how they are being maniplulated. I left because my intuition (little voice within) was screaming at me and after the first meeting that evening I felt something like this creepy energy was trying to penatrate my chest area. This was in the Inverness, Scotland. After I left the meeting group shut down due to lack of interest. Findhorn I feel is a programming centre.

Stewart Swerdlow says that the Theosophical Society is an Illuminati Insitution. He says that Blavasky before she died admitted in her later writings that she made up the ascended masters who where code names for the secret societies that she was connected to and/or code names for her programmer handlers.

The founders of the TS created the league of nations now the United Nations. I've read in the past that they have a section that is dedicated to channelling entities like Kryon that are promoting the NWO or One World Government.

Can anyone point me with some information? Or where to start with some of her material and also what she admitted mentioned above.

Stewart Swerdlow says that the new age was created in the mid 1960s by the US Government as a means to infiltrate the metaphysical and researching the powers of the mind and brain communities. Although the new age stuff or at least some of it seems to go way back. He also says that all channelling these days is artificaully generated by satilite technologies via the NSA. When in Montauk he was involved with some of these channelling projects using computer software that targets the persons own programming matrix cube.

[mahabaratara]

That's the impression I get, the original texts are a much healthier source of knowledge.

Which texts would you recommend beginning with, mahabaratara?



Ay of them really everytime I re read them I get something else...

You got Vedic/Eygptian I myself have the Gnostic/Essene stuff...

[smoking oceanus]

Thank you for bring this up. I really like to get to the bottom of this. I get really bad vibes from the whole thing. I did join for a few months in the past when I was going through a lot of low self esteem and didn't know who to talk to about like minded subjects. On the first day there was appalling heavy energy at the regular weekly meetings that they had including their material. Although the people there are nice and perhaps don't realise how they are being maniplulated. I left because my intuition (little voice within) was screaming at me and after the first meeting that evening I felt something like this creepy energy was trying to penatrate my chest area. This was in the Inverness, Scotland. After I left the meeting group shut down due to lack of interest. Findhorn I feel is a programming centre.

Stewart Swerdlow says that the Theosophical Society is an Illuminati Insitution. He says that Blavasky before she died admitted in her later writings that she made up the ascended masters who where code names for the secret societies that she was connected to and/or code names for her programmer handlers.

The founders of the TS created the league of nations now the United Nations. I've read in the past that they have a section that is dedicated to channelling entities like Kryon that are promoting the NWO or One World Government.

Can anyone point me with some information? Or where to start with some of her material and also what she admitted mentioned above.

Stewart Swerdlow says that the new age was created in the mid 1960s by the US Government as a means to infiltrate the metaphysical and researching the powers of the mind and brain communities. Although the new age stuff or at least some of it seems to go way back. He also says that all channelling these days is artificaully generated by satilite technologies via the NSA. When in Montauk he was involved with some of these channelling projects using computer software that targets the persons own programming matrix cube.


Yeah but, i dont consider Swerdlow to be an entirely trusted source either.

Same with Theosophy, in which ive studied myself, doesnt do much for me.

[romas]

William Butler Yeats. My favourite poet, atm :)



Thanks :)

It struck me, because of all the ufo stuff I've been researching, every time some one describes how the beings speak they mention bird-like sounds.

[eternal_spirit]

The Aquarian Age Community (AAC) holds their meetings within a conference room at the United Nations building.

One of their most revered spirit guides is referred to by many names, and was the spirit guide of Lucis Trust founder Alice Bailey. This spirit guide is called “The Tibetan Master, Djwhal Khul”, or sometimes just “The Tibetan Master”. The AAC meets regularly at the U.N. and discusses New Age spirituality. They open their meetings with meditation. One of their purposes as outlined in their mission statements is to “promote the work of the United Nations as it seeks to uplift and improve life on our planet”. Another purpose they list is to “cooperate and collaborate with the worldwide community that is actively preparing the way for the reappearance of the World-Teacher – the Christed (Anointed) One, the true Aquarian.”The Lucis Trust, incorporated originally in New York as the Lucifer Publishing Company, was founded by Alice Bailey – an occultist. Lucis Trust is a United Nations NGO and has been a major player at the recent U.N. summits. Later Assistant Secretary General of the U.N. Robert Muller would credit the creation of his World Core Curriculum for education to the underlying teachings of The Tibetan Master, Djwahl Kuhl via Alice Bailey's writings on the subject.
At one time, the Lucis Trust office in New York was located at 866 United Nations Plaza and it is a member of the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations under a program called "World Goodwill". Among the many sponsors of the Lucis Trust are: former U.S. Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, the president of the World Bank, a member of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Thomas Watson (IBM, former ambassador in Moscow). Lucis Trust sponsors the following organizations: UN, Greenpeace Int., Greenpeace USA, Amnesty Int., UNICEF, and many others.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27314

[eternal_spirit]

quote: alexph777 Stewart Swerdlow says that the Theosophical Society is an Illuminati Insitution. He says that Blavasky before she died admitted in her later writings that she made up the ascended masters who where code names for the secret societies that she was connected to and/or code names for her programmer handlers.
Amalantrah Working: In January through March of 1918 Crowley began a series of magickal workings called the Amalantrah Workings in furnished rooms in Central Park West, New York City. These were a performed via Sexual & Ceremonial Magick (his spelling) with the intent to invoke certain "intelligences" to physical manifestation. In actuality, the workings typically manifested as a series of visions and communications received through the mediumship of his partner, Roddie Minor.

Be that as it may, at least one such "intelligence" was brought into physical manifestation via the Magickal Portal they created. (A portal in this context is a "magickally" created rent in the fabric of time and space.) The entity that came through is the one pictured (http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm#Picture) above left. Crowley maintained the picture is actually a portrait and drawn from real life. This entity either called itself "Lam," or was named "Lam" by Crowley. Either way, he considered it to be of interdimensional origin, which was the term then for extraterrestrial. In communications with Lam, the symbolism of the egg featured prominently.

Crowley included the portrait of Lam in his Dead Souls exhibition held in Greenwich Village, New York, in 1919. In that same year it was published as a frontispiece labeled The Way to Crowley's commentary to Blavatsky's The Voice of the Silence. Beneath the picture was the following inscription: "LAM is the Tibetan word for Way or Path, and LAMA is He who Goeth, the specific title of the Gods of Egypt, the Treader of the Path, in Buddhistic phraseology. Its numerical value is 71, the number of this book."

Other than this, there is no commentary extant from Crowley upon the subject of Lam except for material published by disciples such as Kenneth Grant. Interestingly, Crowley gave the drawing to Grant in 1945.
Cult of Lam: Since Crowley's time, several occult groups and individuals following in his footsteps have claimed to have intentionally and successfully contacted "Lam." Most notably, Michael Bertiaux in the 1960's followed by a group of O.T.O initiates in the 1970's. (The O.T.O. is the Ordo Templi Orientis, a Magickal order run by Crowley.) These individuals consider "Lam" to be a trans-mundane or extraterrestrial entity and claimed remarkable success in their invocations - if they are to be believed.
Following the success of these contacts, interest in occult circles, especially Crowleyian ones, gathered considerable steam. In 1987, Kenneth Grant, the generally acknowledged successor to Crowley, went so far as to formalize the Lam Workings into something called the Cult of Lam. To quote from Grant's Typhonian O.T.O. website: "The Cult [of Lam] has been founded because very strong intimations have been received by Aossic Aiwass, 718'.' to the effect that the portrait of Lam (the original drawing of which was given by 666'.' to 718'.' under curious circumstances) is the present focus of an extra-terrestrial - and perhaps trans-plutonic - Energy which the O.T.O. is required to communicate at this critical period, for we have now entered the Eighties mentioned in The Book of the Law. It is Our aim to obtain some insight not only into the nature of Lam, but also into the possibilities of using the Egg as an astral space-capsule for travelling to Lam's domain, or for exploring extra-terrestrial spaces in the sense in which O.T.O. Tantric Time-Travelers are exploring the Tunnels of Set in intra-cosmic and chthonian capsules.
http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm

[them]

Thank you for bring this up. I really like to get to the bottom of this. I get really bad vibes from the whole thing. I did join for a few months in the past when I was going through a lot of low self esteem and didn't know who to talk to about like minded subjects. On the first day there was appalling heavy energy at the regular weekly meetings that they had including their material. Although the people there are nice and perhaps don't realise how they are being maniplulated. I left because my intuition (little voice within) was screaming at me and after the first meeting that evening I felt something like this creepy energy was trying to penatrate my chest area. This was in the Inverness, Scotland. After I left the meeting group shut down due to lack of interest. Findhorn I feel is a programming centre.

Findhorn is full of the elite, that's a given. Gordonstoun school (which is right next door) was a school started especially for Prince Phillip, co-founder of The World Wide Fund for Nature AND the organisation who own the nature reserve where I saw all the top brass from the Theosophical Society.

Stewart Swerdlow says that the Theosophical Society is an Illuminati Insitution. He says that Blavasky before she died admitted in her later writings that she made up the ascended masters who where code names for the secret societies that she was connected to and/or code names for her programmer handlers.

The founders of the TS created the league of nations now the United Nations. I've read in the past that they have a section that is dedicated to channelling entities like Kryon that are promoting the NWO or One World Government.

I didn't know that, thank you.

Can anyone point me with some information? Or where to start with some of her material and also what she admitted mentioned above.

I'm afraid that I've stuck to earlier texts, as mahabaratara rightly pointed out, and have never read anything that she wrote.

Tsarion, however, will tell you that anybody who suggests she was a fraud has not read her books before contrasting them with earlier texts. Tsarion also doesn't sound very flattering about the modern T.S..

I'm afraid, therefore, that I can not point you anywhere.

I have listened to a few of these which are easy enough to trawl up from the depths of the net.

Michael Tsarion - Theosophy, Hijacked Organization PART 1 - YouTube

Any of them really everytime I re read them I get something else...

You got Vedic/Eygptian I myself have the Gnostic/Essene stuff...

Thank you mahabaratara, I would be grateful if you could name some texts that are particularly illuminating for those who might not have travelled as far along the road as you have :)

Thanks :)

It struck me, because of all the ufo stuff I've been researching, every time some one describes how the beings speak they mention bird-like sounds.

Yeats was a member of the Theosophical Society. He was also instrumental in the founding of; The Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn..

However, as somebody once told me;

Yeats was a superlative word smith

That's what I like about him.

His poetry is full of words inspired by the symbolism & teachings of these societies, I don't know if that's a bad thing?



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Thank you for your interesting contribution, E_S

http://www.phreeow.net/images/spiritus-mundi.png
Spiritus Mundi.. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Coming_(poem))

I can't help pasting some more Yeats :D

THE SECOND COMING

by: W. B. Yeats (1865-1939)

TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/pictures/william_butler_yeats.jpg

[baron von lotsov]

Yeah but, i dont consider Swerdlow to be an entirely trusted source either.

Same with Theosophy, in which ive studied myself, doesnt do much for me.

I agree, from what I've heard Swerdlow is not very straight but I'd largely agree with most of what was said that was mentioned by this poster as coming from him. Where I differ is why the 60s were set up. It was not that but to do with many things, i.e. creating a generation gap, causing dysfunctional people incapable of forming a family, promoting drugs and all sorts of Illuminati objectives, but for one main goal and of course that is to set up a NWO.