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cacadores
05-08-2008, 02:35 AM
First: What is the idea of population control? What is the agenda?

Population increase and also reduction?

Sir David Attenborough, the famous naturalist, who supports the idea that it's man causing global warming, is in favour of cutting Britian's population by half and this has Government interest (see below).

Yet, for the past 40 years, British Govenments of all shades have encouraged immigration (the US too) while pretending to 'crack down' on 'illegal immigrants' to get public support. Now, I had a conventional approach on this: 'sure they were lying', I said to myself; 'but this is simply the business community putting pressure on the politicians' to allow in cheap foreign workers. And it's true: immigration leads to an increase in the economy and more money for businesses every time. And more workers' social security payments are necesssary if the increasing numbers of pensioners are ever going to get their pensions.

So how come the Government is now talking about 'reducing' the population when it's so obviously them that let so many immigrants in in the first place? Is it a means of introducing fertility controls?

Cloning

One way out of this seeming impass: cloning. If you can reduce fertility among the the normal population and replace people with clones of suseptable people, then you have your willing workers.

A good way to test a clone's compliance, would be to have the clone's birth away from the public eye where the cloned person can be influenced directly.

What do we know about cloning? Dolly the sheep, the first large mammel to be cloned, was cloned in Scotland. The first human to be cloned, was claimed to have been cloned by the Franco-Canadian Raelian religious cult, a cult who's leader, Rael, claims to be a conduit for alien scientific dissemination to earth. These aliens, the Elohim (from Genisis) originally bred with mankind 20,000 years ago......... Essentially they are giving people the same message as David Icke about mankind's origens. The Realians attract their members with sexual come ons from attractive members who tell reporters they are ready to die for their cult.

Now, with their avant-guard scientific reseach, Raelians are coming out from the dubious twilight of marginal religions to find that their voice is being taken more seriously.

Cloning has two advantages: firstly to reproduce the people you wish to reproduce. Second - to the leaders, it promises immortality.


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SIR David Attenborough, the eminent naturalist, is backing a campaign to have population controls introduced in Britain with the aim of halving the number of inhabitants.

He was speaking in support of a conference on population to be held in Oxford next month. The event is organised by the Optimum Population Trust (OPT), an academic group which wants to put population reduction at the heart of government policy.

It believes that Britain should seek to reduce its population from its present 59m to about 30m by 2130 -- about the same as the population in 1870.

The campaign is supported by other academics and environmentalists including Sir Jonathon Porritt, chairman of the government's Sustainable Development Commission.
Andrew Ferguson, the OPT's researcher
Insiders say the new figures put Britain's annual growth rate as high as 0.4% -- meaning Britain could have a population of 71m to 73m by 2050.
There are now growing signs of ministerial concern. Defra, Margaret Beckett's environment department, will shortly announce a series of “horizon scanning” studies on Britain's burgeoning population.
Sir Crispin Tickell, Britain's former ambassador to the United Nations, who

dedicate
06-08-2008, 02:26 PM
Fishing industry noticing decline of all fish.. even at the North Atlantic seaboard. Species of all animals becoming extint at a high rate. All rivers and soils poisoned. Lack of fresh water, world wide. 1,000 s of acres of rainforest destroyed every day. 50,000 people starving to death every day?!... And by the year 2020 there will be 10 to 12 billion people on this planet.

Figure it out. If you and I can see what's happening, then "The Elite" know it too. They know that if this world is going to be livable, then the population has to be reduced.-- either that or people have to radically change their consciousness. And the later just aint gonna happen.

truthseeker1980
06-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Fishing industry noticing decline of all fish.. even at the North Atlantic seaboard. Species of all animals becoming extint at a high rate. All rivers and soils poisoned. Lack of fresh water, world wide. 1,000 s of acres of rainforest destroyed every day. 50,000 people starving to death every day?!... And by the year 2020 there will be 10 to 12 billion people on this planet.

Figure it out. If you and I can see what's happening, then "The Elite" know it too. They know that if this world is going to be livable, then the population has to be reduced.-- either that or people have to radically change their consciousness. And the later just aint gonna happen.

They deliberately designed it that way, if we had never had money we would never have got into this mess and there would be more than enough resources to supply 12 billion people.

The elite program us to think money is needed which in turn creates big business who's only concern is making money no matter what, who then destroy everything, dont care who they hurt and what kind of pollution they make. But are backed by the governments as it's part of the agenda.

Now they have YOU hook line and sinker, we could all have our own fairly small patch of land and all live off it. There is more than enough resources on this planet for all of us to survive this way.

BUT THEY WONT ALLOW US TO.

So now they brainwash us into thinking that we need to reduce the population.

cacadores
07-08-2008, 02:07 AM
Figure it out. If you and I can see what's happening, then "The Elite" know it too. They know that if this world is going to be livable, then the population has to be reduced.-- either that or people have to radically change their consciousness. And the later just aint gonna happen.So you're saying that the elite have to live here too, so that's why? Yet there is enough food on the planet to feed everyone and for some time to come.

They deliberately designed it that way, if we had never had money we would never have got into this mess and there would be more than enough resources to supply 12 billion people.

Now they have YOU hook line and sinker, we could all have our own fairly small patch of land and all live off it. There is more than enough resources on this planet for all of us to survive this way.

BUT THEY WONT ALLOW US TO.

So now they brainwash us into thinking that we need to reduce the population.No arguments from me:) I don't know if I could hack living off the land and doing back-breaking work though, but on balence I'd agree that unlike in other countries (like in the ex-communist ones stangely enough) we don't have the choice now because people were forced off small-holdings. If you want to farm - go to eastern Europe, land's still cheap!

Also interesting that fuel rises in Britian promt the global warming debate and that the most common Govenment solution is off-shore wind farms. Off-shore might be less unsightly. But the sea bed by the shore is owned by the mysterious sovereign Crown Estates who can charge what they like as 'rent' for any installations.

dedicate
07-08-2008, 03:38 AM
This is an interesting subject that most people do not want to look into all that much; they have much invested emotionally in seeing their children and grandchildren live full lives.

I'm saying, within 50 years, the way we are going, this world will not be livable. Really, in 50 years this world will be a total waisteland if things go on the way they are now.

Unfortunately, the window of opertunity to change things for the better is about 30 years past, so something very ugly is going to happen. -- Either nature will do it's job of cleaning up the mess, or the elite will.

I know it's a hard pill for people with close family.

I believe that people on the 3rd or 4th tier of the Elite/Illuminati are planning to kill 5 billion or more through wars and bioweapons.. What they envision is a world of lock down super controled townships of slaves and slave wardens -- "try to leave this area and we shoot you.". The rest of the world will be their Estate, divided up nicely between them. (This is where cloning can come in -- clone unintelligent, servile, humans ala Brave New World)

But I also believe that at the very top, the Illuminati, are trying to just destroy the world. AT the very top, the real goal is to kill not just people, but the Earth. This is their way -- They are going down, and they will take anyone and anything down with them. The Earth means nothing to them. Time -- that seems to be running out -- will tell.