Rubbernecking

[steppewar]

Anyone who drive's a car frequently must be guilty of this. If you see the result of an accident on the other side of the road, you automatically slow down and stare at it, no matter how bad the carnage is.

Yes, it's sick, but also true.

It is as if humans are automatically programmed to do this, as not to look is harder to do than looking.

I believe we do this to reinforce just how valuable and fragile our own lives are and to acknowledge that they could end in an instant.

[curly]

Anyone who drive's a car frequently must be guilty of this. If you see the result of an accident on the other side of the road, you automatically slow down and stare at it, no matter how bad the carnage is.

Yes, it's sick, but also true.

It is as if humans are automatically programmed to do this, as not to look is harder than looking.

I believe we do this to reinforce just how valuable and fragile our own lives are and to acknowledge that they could end in an instant.

http://http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/small-car-crash.jpg

no i think all peoples eyes are drawn them as it's just a bit more interesting than the drive normally is,i don't slow down unless anyone else does but i do feel a touch more fragile and aware i could die just like you said everytime,it lasts 30 seconds or so every time then it's back to normal

[mr_self_destruct]

I've seen a couple of disturbing scenes recently. The first a couple of weeks ago when my bus drove past a car that had just smashed, with people still in it. The second was last Wednesday when I heard a smacking sound outside...looked out the window and a guy was lying flat out in the middle of the road...turned out he'd killed himself by jumping off a building (which wasn't even that high, only 6 floors).

Did I look? Yes, as I'm a morbid fucker.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Anyone who drive's a car frequently must be guilty of this. If you see the result of an accident on the other side of the road, you automatically slow down and stare at it, no matter how bad the carnage is.

Yes, it's sick, but also true.

It is as if humans are automatically programmed to do this, as not to look is harder than looking.

I believe we do this to reinforce just how valuable and fragile our own lives are and to acknowledge that they could end in an instant.



I think this kind of unhealthy voyeuristic behaviour is instilled in us through the nefarious media of film and television. Yes, life is extremely fragile; but I'd proffer that most people look at accidents purely because they find it 'exciting' to do so. I'd look, but only really to see if I could help to be honest.

I used to find such things exciting as a child/teenager... as I suppose most children do. :-/

[deafbred]

was watching COPS yesterday and a COP pulled someone over for some minor minor infraction.

While the COP was speaking to the lady, a car on the other side of the road was slowly down to much and looking at the COP and the scene, and the, WHAM! A car rammed right into the rear of the car that slowed down.

[zarah]

I really, really try hard not to slow down and look. I hate the thought of people having a proper hard watch of me if I was in that situation. My OH does though..always. He did the other night when two girls were having a fight in the street..which isnt strictly an accident but he was still a nosy bugger ;p

[tom bombadil]

To look at the problem is normal. To feel that you 'should' look away is not normal. Have we all been programed enough so that we just move on like it never happens? If it was on the road and we all pulled over to help then we could be getting in the way.

But to help, or want to help is the norm folks.

Stop and help if you want. Help if you can. Bugger off if you might get in the way of someother chap that is better suited to do the job.


Tom.

[pheony]

Not wanting to sound morbid, but are we trying to look into the face of death.We all know that it will come to us, we just dont know how and when.This gives us a glimpse of how fragile our lives are.

[tom bombadil]

If it were just one guy looking on to another less fortunate type than himself, then seen from afar there is not a patern.

But include others doing the same and a patern emerges. And only cos we like paterns.

There is nothing in it other than curiosity me thinks :rolleyes:


Tom.

[loderlive]

To look at the problem is normal. To feel that you 'should' look away is not normal.

Not everyone wants to be "normal".

[cleft_asunder]

Anyone who drive's a car frequently must be guilty of this. If you see the result of an accident on the other side of the road, you automatically slow down and stare at it, no matter how bad the carnage is.

Yes, it's sick, but also true.

It is as if humans are automatically programmed to do this, as not to look is harder than looking.

I believe we do this to reinforce just how valuable and fragile our own lives are and to acknowledge that they could end in an instant.

http://http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/small-car-crash.jpg

Oh come on! The only people who should feel guilty for looking are those that have no empathy, and therefore look only to make their day more interesting.

[cleft_asunder]

I think this kind of unhealthy voyeuristic behaviour is instilled in us through the nefarious media of film and television.

Bollocks. It's natural and healthy to be curious.

[pheony]

I think this kind of unhealthy voyeuristic behaviour is instilled in us through the nefarious media of film and television. Yes, life is extremely fragile; but I'd proffer that most people look at accidents purely because they find it 'exciting' to do so. I'd look, but only really to see if I could help to be honest.

I used to find such things exciting as a child/teenager... as I suppose most children do. :-/
Dont agree.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

B***. It's natural and healthy to be curious.

I think it rather depends upon the subject matter... :-/

Dont agree.

Good for you, it would be a pretty boring world if we all held the same opinions. :)

[pheony]

Its natural is it not, when a wild animal is injured many of the herd will go to it, or watch from afar. Im sure they dont do this because they have been watching to much television:)

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Its natural is it not, when a wild animal is injured many of the herd will go to it, or watch from afar. Im sure they dont do this because they have been watching to much television:)

Aren't you a little more 'intellectual' than an animal though? :)

I'm sure these animals don't watch accidents for entertainment though...

[noobcybot]

I consciousy try not to look at that shit , I know everyone including myself does it now and again but rubbernecking pisses me off. It causes traffic and therefore frustration and impatience and probably more crashes and inconvenience.
But I dont think this is important, what is important is that if you observe this shit and have an opportunity to help in any way, even if it might put you in danger then you must help. If we all had the this type of true altruism then the world would be a better place. The Kitty Genovese incident was probably one of the most disturbing incidents where witnesses did not offer help, personally I dont know how they could live with themselves.
I guess though in some places including England we dont see death that much, we dont see masses of blood, the struggle of a dieing person or someone being violently attacked, so this behaviour is not surprising. There are also worse cases of morbid curiosity that humans are interested in, look at a website like Rotten.com and the like, or the countless cases of peadophilia in the newspapers etc...

[w1nstonsm1th84]

what is important is that if you observe this s**t and have an opportunity to help in any way, even if it might put you in danger then you must help. If we all had the this type of true altruism then the world would be a better place.

Exactly. :)

[limelady]

I'm going to be honest here. I think when it comes to road accidents, it does people more good than harm to take a look at the carnage a car can cause. We sometimes forget that we humans are very fragile creatures, and far too many people drive their cars too ruthlessly. Seeing what can happen can serve as a good reminder to slow down, watch out for others, drive according to the conditions etc etc.

I always feel so much empathy for those involved in road accidents and their families too of course when there is serious injury or loss of life. Its such a shock to all parties concerned when it happens so unexpectedly....even to passers-by or "rubber-neckers" as the OP called them. I personally feel dreadful for quite some time later, and it certainly reminds me that it only takes a moment of inattention to kill or injure yourself or cause the same to others.

Its a bit like taking kids who sniff glue up to a psyche ward to show them the damage that can take place in human brain when a teenager has his head in a paper bag sniffing toxic fumes on a regular basis. Seeing others their own age sitting staring at nothing like the vegetables they have become - being spoon fed by a nurse and wearing nappies because they pee and poo their pants like a baby again - is often the shock needed to make a wayward teenager correct his own course. It certainly worked for a teenage boy in my own family.

[endlessvista]

Does not have to be an accident. I recall a 10 mile tailback on the Long Island Expressway once were the rubberneckers were slowing down to an empty cardboard box at the side of the road. I am 100% serious.

[tom bombadil]

Not everyone wants to be "normal".

I did not say otherwise. It is up to the individual to take their lives in any direction as they wish, but are you saying that because those that take a different route in life would or would'nt rubberneck?



Cardboard box = normal behaviour, but not morbid fasination. Those behind want to know what is going on ahead, what ever the problem cos they are late.



Tom.

[emanuel]

Aren't you a little more 'intellectual' than an animal though? :)

I'm sure these animals don't watch accidents for entertainment though...

Hey bud, don't go joining in with mankinds delusions of grandeur! intellect just means you do well in the education system, nothing more. ;)

Though with this thread I think a lot of people have a blod lust, pure and simple. Like those that like to watch boxing to see how mashed a guys face is gonna get! Or those that think the only entertaining aspect of Formula 1 racing is when they crash. Without giving it a second thought there are those who are willing others to be badly hurt for their own entertainment! Pretty sick huh :eek:

[loderlive]

I did not say otherwise. It is up to the individual to take their lives in any direction as they wish, but are you saying that because those that take a different route in life would or would'nt rubberneck?

I'm saying whatever the direction they choose is "normal".

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Though with this thread I think a lot of people have a blod lust, pure and simple. Like those that like to watch boxing to see how mashed a guys face is gonna get! Or those that think the only entertaining aspect of Formula 1 racing is when they crash. Without giving it a second thought there are those who are willing others to be badly hurt for their own entertainment! Pretty sick huh :eek:

Which is pretty much my point really. From where was a lot of this voyeuristic nature learned(?)- the boobtube! Human casualty/fatality is only 'incidental' to many people these days. A lot of people are 'emotionally detached' these days- they care more about ego.

What a crazy world, eh? :-/

[emanuel]

Which is pretty much my point really. From where was a lot of this voyeuristic nature learned(?)- the boobtube! Human casualty/fatality is only 'incidental' to many people these days. A lot of people are 'emotionally detached' these days- they care more about ego.

What a crazy world, eh? :-/

That's right, ego rules in this day and age.....and it sucks ass. :eek:

[nofuture]

Maybe it's a mixture of things, including schadenfreude. Some people really do think that bad things can only happen to others.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

That's right, ego rules in this day and age.....and it sucks ass. :eek:

I totally agree with that.


Some people really do think that bad things can only happen to others.

Yeah, that's very true...

[pheony]

Aren't you a little more 'intellectual' than an animal though? :)

I'm sure these animals don't watch accidents for entertainment though...

Are you trying to be rude:rolleyes:
Its a natural response, whether animal or human. Ar'nt we basically animals with a little bit more intelligence.

[emanuel]

Are you trying to be rude:rolleyes:
Its a natural response, whether animal or human. Ar'nt we basically animals with a little bit more intelligence.

So intelligent we destroy everything around us........:rolleyes::D:cool:

[loderlive]

Ar'nt we basically animals with a little bit more intelligence.

You ever tried telling a cat what to do?

[pheony]

So intelligent we destroy everything around us........:rolleyes::D:cool:

How true.

[pheony]

You ever tried telling a cat what to do?

Yes, when i had a cat if i told him to come to me he would come, when i went to the corner shop he would come with me and when i told him to wait out side he would sit and wait for me. a very extrodinary cat. But as a rule i know that cats only really want to please you if they want a bit of love or they are hungry...Bless em.

[steppewar]

Are you trying to be rude:rolleyes:
Its a natural response, whether animal or human. Ar'nt we basically animals with a little bit more intelligence.

I agree. Although most humans will have a good gorp at a grim road accident, the more advanced and empathatic ones will feel guilty about it afterwards, especially if they got a perverse buzz off it.

[Anders Lindman]

People are drawn to death. That's why they are aging. It's an automatic program for self-destruction.

And also, people are curious about their own fears. They want to learn. But they would not themselves for example want to have their body crushed in a car accident, but if someone ELSE has crashed, well that's just candy for them since they can get a peek at their own fear without danger to themselves. They are fooling themselves of course, but there you have it.

[Anders Lindman]

Some people are magnets for disasters. Other people are magnets for making OTHER people than themselves experience disasters. Most people are a mix of these two principles.

[resistance]

The media and the 50 (cops) censor as much as possible when it comes to accidents, crime scenes and stuff like that. I understand that they may have to preserve a crime scene as much as possible and don't want people destroying possible vital evidence BUT! i think there is a hidden agenda in keeping the public away from the reality of life and death, we all have to die sometime but we are taught to fear death, who's agenda does that suit? Its the supression of reality that cause's the curiosity in the first place. Every time there's an accident or something the 50 are there straight away with the red tape, road blocks and a set of rules and regs, the nanny state has only served to weaken us.

[Anders Lindman]

we all have to die sometime

Maybe THAT is the idea the elite have programmed us with. The idea that we will only be at our 'prime' for a few years and then it's all downhill into old age, disease and death. Some of the elite may be thousands of years old and they hide that fact from the masses. :eek: Well, that's an outrageous speculation. I really don't believe that myself, but from a super-conspiracy perspective it may be true. :D

[Anders Lindman]

People are so obsessed with death and at the same time they feel so helpless about it. To me that sounds like a psychological dysfunction. There is something about this death cult we live in at the moment. Something just doesn't compute. We see the universe and how it unfolds in marvelous splendor, and at the same time we are given a few pathetic years of 'prime' health and youth, and then we wither away and die. Doesn't that struck you as weird? Is that really normal? Even those who endlessly rant about God or New Age, they still just keep on walking like zombie sheep on the path of aging and death. I for one don't buy it. I don't believe that that is all that reality can muster.

I know, I know......99% of all people including religious people will think I'm a nutcase. And I know I can very likely be wrong. And I also know that I've got this splinter in my mind telling me that something is wrong with the consensus world. If I age and die like all other people, at least I have questioned the sheeple-type of existence we are experiencing at the moment.

[emanuel]

People are so obsessed with death and at the same time they feel so helpless about it. To me that sounds like a psychological dysfunction. There is something about this death cult we live in at the moment. Something just doesn't compute. We see the universe and how it unfolds in marvelous splendor, and at the same time we are given a few pathetic years of 'prime' health and youth, and then we wither away and die. Doesn't that struck you as weird? Is that really normal? Even those who endlessly rant about God or New Age, they still just keep on walking like zombie sheep on the path of aging and death. I for one don't buy it. I don't believe that that is all that reality can muster.

I know, I know......99% of all people including religious people will think I'm a nutcase. And I know I can very likely be wrong. And I also know that I've got this splinter in my mind telling me that something is wrong with the consensus world. If I age and die like all other people, at least I have questioned the sheeple-type of existence we are experiencing at the moment.

I like you anders, you always have something productive to say. I think there is a great possiblity that the heads of the global control (I'm talking way at the top) have the potential to live a very long time in the three dimensions. Maybe as multi-dimensional beings this three dimensional reality is a form of 'proving ground' or early learning centre?! Once you have learnt the essential lessons down here, then you are taken to higher realms of existence. Those who built this dimension need to spend a long time here since they would be the regulator, but we hopefully should not need to spend many physical lifetimes before we get the picture and move on!

Just another one of those 'crazy' ideas I have that kinda linked into yours...you crazy fool! :D:cool:

[Anders Lindman]

I like you anders, you always have something productive to say. I think there is a great possiblity that the heads of the global control (I'm talking way at the top) have the potential to live a very long time in the three dimensions. Maybe as multi-dimensional beings this three dimensional reality is a form of 'proving ground' or early learning centre?! Once you have learnt the essential lessons down here, then you are taken to higher realms of existence. Those who built this dimension need to spend a long time here since they would be the regulator, but we hopefully should not need to spend many physical lifetimes before we get the picture and move on!

Just another one of those 'crazy' ideas I have that kinda linked into yours...you crazy fool! :D:cool:

Yeah, it's easy to get stuck in the consensus reality, to believe what we have been told to believe. That's very easy. It's much more difficult to get a bigger picture. I like to remain grounded on a practical level and then it's easier to examine other belief systems. Even very far-out belief systems. :)

[eyepod]

I remember seeing an injured crow in the back garden. I went looking for a box so I could take it into the vets next door. By the time I went to go outside again two other crows had turned up and were busy pecking the injured crow to death. Maybe they had been watching too many Rambo films :confused:.

[pheony]

People are so obsessed with death and at the same time they feel so helpless about it. To me that sounds like a psychological dysfunction. There is something about this death cult we live in at the moment. Something just doesn't compute. We see the universe and how it unfolds in marvelous splendor, and at the same time we are given a few pathetic years of 'prime' health and youth, and then we wither away and die. Doesn't that struck you as weird? Is that really normal? Even those who endlessly rant about God or New Age, they still just keep on walking like zombie sheep on the path of aging and death. I for one don't buy it. I don't believe that that is all that reality can muster.

I know, I know......99% of all people including religious people will think I'm a nutcase. And I know I can very likely be wrong. And I also know that I've got this splinter in my mind telling me that something is wrong with the consensus world. If I age and die like all other people, at least I have questioned the sheeple-type of existence we are experiencing at the moment.

When my mum died i felt compelled to go and see her in the chapel of rest. I was very concerned about how this might affect me but i had to go. My initial reaction was shock, its very hard to describe the nothingness that exists when you are with someone that you love, who is with you in body but not in spirit. I tried to talk to my mum but it felt wrong, she was'nt here anymore. I started to feel panic stricken because i could'nt communicate with her.At this point i turned around and started pacing the room, its at this point that i started to speak to the space of the room that we were in. Thats when i felt my mum and knew she was with me, this feeling was especially strong for about a week and i had plently of signs to reassure me that it was'nt my imagination.I still feel my mums presence, its not as strong but i know she's still with me. I think i went to confront death to realise true existance. I dont know what this life is all about, but its only a small part of what really is.

[Anders Lindman]

When my mum died i felt compelled to go and see her in the chapel of rest. I was very concerned about how this might affect me but i had to go. My initial reaction was shock, its very hard to describe the nothingness that exists when you are with someone that you love, who is with you in body but not in spirit. I tried to talk to my mum but it felt wrong, she was'nt here anymore. I started to feel panic stricken because i could'nt communicate with her.At this point i turned around and started pacing the room, its at this point that i started to speak to the space of the room that we were in. Thats when i felt my mum and knew she was with me, this feeling was especially strong for about a week and i had plently of signs to reassure me that it was'nt my imagination.I still feel my mums presence, its not as strong but i know she's still with me. I think i went to confront death to realise true existance. I dont know what this life is all about, but its only a small part of what really is.

Yes, I wrote in another post that aging and death is caused by an evil entity. That evil entity is a program hammered into us by the System, the evil Matrix we live within. We should not accept that.

[pheony]

Yes, I wrote in another post that aging and death is caused by an evil entity. That evil entity is a program hammered into us by the System, the evil Matrix we live within. We should not accept that.

No we should'nt there is so much more:)

[Anders Lindman]

No we should'nt there is so much more:)

I believe most people believe in something more than five-sense reality. That's what religion is about, and many, many people in the world believe in a religion in some form or another. It's also what paranormal research is about, and New Age stuff.

That to me indicates that maybe all people have questions about this five-sense reality.

The difficult thing is to know what is just fantasies, false beliefs and dogma, and what is the truth. Science is a good tool but science is still very limited, and that's why so many are seeking things beyond mainstream science.