View Full Version : Anyone's got Alister Crowley books?
jos08
03-08-2008, 07:32 AM
I have been looking for his books and publications but I have not found any ,,,, they seem to be very hard to find.
By the way, I'm not some freak who's into this stuff but this is for research only. So if someone has any or know of a place where you can find them, then please give us a shout.
P.S I'm new to the site and I hope to get to know you all.
cheemflo
03-08-2008, 08:30 AM
I have been looking for his books and publications but I have not found any ,,,, they seem to be very hard to find.
By the way, I'm not some freak who's into this stuff but this is for research only. So if someone has any or know of a place where you can find them, then please give us a shout.
P.S I'm new to the site and I hope to get to know you all.
I've downloaded a shitload with uTorrent. Haven't got around to printing and reading them yet, however.
montag
03-08-2008, 08:36 AM
A reminder to members, the posting of copyrighted materials on the forum is not permitted.
phonicboom
03-08-2008, 11:21 AM
there is a lot of crowley on the net such as his Book of Wisdom and Folley and other work, i think deoxy hold some of his words on yoga too which are interesting.
I came across a copy of the Tao Te Ching written by crowley when he took the body of Ko Husan, it is a prety good reading of the Tao, you could see the odd bit of weirdness in there if you wanted too look hard enough - the most crowley bit is that he signs himself 666, has lots of OTO and great white brotherhood references and has the TaiChi (Tao, Yin Yang, whatever you call it) on its side and made to look like a sun - the sun has 13 arms of fire.
rossus
03-08-2008, 11:49 AM
i'm no crowley expert,
so feel free to ignore my amateur impression of him...
but he didn't seem to be a very nice spiritual example to me.
from what i have heard of
crowley:
- he liked to piss people off,
- he was addicted to drugs,
- his young son son addicted to drugs,
- he likes to eat human excrement,
- he talks about sacrificing children and animals,
- his wife commit suicide because she supposedly got "possessed" during one of the rituals with her husband.
krakhead
03-08-2008, 12:15 PM
I have been looking for his books and publications but I have not found any ,,,, they seem to be very hard to find.
I'm guessing you mean to buy then because they are available from several sites. As for the copyright warning - I don't think they are still under copyright as they are over 75 years old. BUT - just in case, I'll PM you some links.
There have been a lot of internal problems with the company who used to print and sell his books so going for 2nd hand ones/old stock may be your only access for a while.
By the way, I'm not some freak who's into this stuff but this is for research only. So if someone has any or know of a place where you can find them, then please give us a shout.
P.S I'm new to the site and I hope to get to know you all.
What's that about?! Don't fell you have to justify yourself to the Anti-Crowley gang on here! You never know, you may read his books, TRY the techniques and maybe, just maybe, discover that they are very good tools for developing your own consciousness in a controlled, scientific way. :eek:
Regards
Some freak who's into this stuff! ;)
phonicboom
03-08-2008, 01:12 PM
- he was addicted to drugs,
- his wife commit suicide because she supposedly got "possessed" during one of the rituals with her husband.
Alan Watts, Aldous Huxley, Every Hindu Monk ever, and more all used drugs for spiritual gain :)
as for the sexual rituals, one has led to the fact that Crowley is very likely George W Bushes Grandfather on his Mum's side (ie Crowley is Barbera Bushes Dad). Listen to Alex Jones interviewing Freeman for proof.
elysiansix
03-08-2008, 02:13 PM
i'm no crowley expert,
so feel free to ignore my amateur impression of him...
but he didn't seem to be a very nice spiritual example to me.
from what i have heard of
crowley:
- he liked to piss people off,
- he was addicted to drugs,
- his young son son addicted to drugs,
- he likes to eat human excrement,
- he talks about sacrificing children and animals,
- his wife commit suicide because she supposedly got "possessed" during one of the rituals with her husband.
I do a lot of aura 'readings' and interpreting where on the human to spirit scale people exist. Believe me there is absolutely NOTHING spiritual or good about Aleister Crowley, or many of the other OTO/Rosicrucian/White Brotherhood so-called 'icons' (e.g. Bacon) who are supposed to have been 'spiritual'. As you say, most of them were into perverted sex and sacrificing humans: they lived at the very lowest end of the human entrails as it's possible to get.
krakhead
03-08-2008, 02:41 PM
I do a lot of aura 'readings' and interpreting where on the human to spirit scale people exist. Believe me there is absolutely NOTHING spiritual or good about Aleister Crowley, or many of the other OTO/Rosicrucian/White Brotherhood so-called 'icons' (e.g. Bacon) who are supposed to have been 'spiritual'. As you say, most of them were into perverted sex and sacrificing humans: they lived at the very lowest end of the human entrails as it's possible to get.
Absolutely scientific approach then? No way your own feelings may skew the data?
I couldn't give a flying fuck about Crowley the person, but his techniques for self exploration and self knowledge have served me very well over the years.
I really wish people would read his books, try out his work etc before flying in with all the bollocks they like to throw at him.
I'm sure that pretty soon the usual crowd will be on here here with their 'Crowley's evil' mind set, then thirdwave and marpat will argue back and no-one will get anywhere.
FFS people, get a grip! :p
(although I do realise I have made up th next 100 or so posts in my head! I may be wrong and everyone will decide that maybe their own reality tunnel may not in fact be 100% accurate and begin to perceive it as a series of filters through which we project our own consciousness into the 'outer' and come to a mass realisation that there can never be a view of anything that will provide you with 100% truth, only our own perceptions. Doubt it though!)
mondo23
03-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Alan Watts, Aldous Huxley, Every Hindu Monk ever, and more all used drugs for spiritual gain :)
as for the sexual rituals, one has led to the fact that Crowley is very likely George W Bushes Grandfather on his Mum's side (ie Crowley is Barbera Bushes Dad). Listen to Alex Jones interviewing Freeman for proof.
:confused:
There is absolutley no proof in this. Its just speculation. There has been no mention of it in any of the 10 biographies of Crowley that I have read and the first time I came across it was in that Docu-film called The Great Beast 666 (which is just awful by the way).
jos08
03-08-2008, 07:52 PM
Thanks for those who PM'd me for help, I'm grateful. The idea that people should lay off investigating certain people is ludicrous, because that's what we are told to do everyday by the media. As for the books and writings of his, well there are just to many to read, I intend to read them all and see how some are connected with now rituals.
comawhite015
03-08-2008, 09:44 PM
There are a few available on various websites.. though I am sure you have already been PM'd those by now.
I have his tarot deck. It's absolutely facking amazing =)
mahabaratara
03-08-2008, 11:24 PM
Every Hindu Monk ever...
trite nonsense...
phonicboom
04-08-2008, 01:09 AM
trite nonsense...
Sadhus?
phonicboom
04-08-2008, 01:11 AM
Crowley is very likely George W Bushes Grandfather on his Mum's side (ie Crowley is Barbera Bushes Dad)
:confused:
There is absolutley no proof in this. Its just speculation. There has been no mention of it in any of the 10 biographies of Crowley that I have read and the first time I came across it was in that Docu-film called The Great Beast 666 (which is just awful by the way).
It was during a sexual ritual where barbera bushes mum went off with crowley for some time and returned pregnant, the offspring was babera bush.
thirdwave
04-08-2008, 01:22 AM
I have been looking for his books and publications but I have not found any ,,,, they seem to be very hard to find.
By the way, I'm not some freak who's into this stuff but this is for research only. So if someone has any or know of a place where you can find them, then please give us a shout.
P.S I'm new to the site and I hope to get to know you all.
I would recommend "Magick in theory and practice", I was lucky enough to get it for £5 on ebay... if you keep your eye out you might get a good deal. the book is quite short of print now and costs about £40- £50 new...
"The book of Thoth" is interesting and quite a good incite into his views, and easy to buy, its more about his Tarot deck...
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/?_nkw=magick+in+theory+and+practice&_fromfsb=0&_trksid=m270
damagedbrainn
04-08-2008, 01:27 AM
:confused:
There is absolutley no proof in this. Its just speculation. There has been no mention of it in any of the 10 biographies of Crowley that I have read and the first time I came across it was in that Docu-film called The Great Beast 666 (which is just awful by the way).
Actually, it's not even speculation, it was a blogger's April Fools Joke that a lot of people were gullible enough to believe and, apparently, continue to repeat. It even made it to Wikipedia for a good length of time.
thirdwave
04-08-2008, 01:31 AM
Thanks for those who PM'd me for help, I'm grateful. The idea that people should lay off investigating certain people is ludicrous, because that's what we are told to do everyday by the media. As for the books and writings of his, well there are just to many to read, I intend to read them all and see how some are connected with now rituals.
what I think is relevant is how the people who do not object to his works have not told you what to think of the books but have simply given you what you have asked for...
its also worth checking out israel regardie's book about Crowley... he worked with him most of his life... respected him.. worked for him.. then badly fell out with him... then wrote a book about him.... so on...
supertzar
04-08-2008, 01:37 AM
Trailer for Bruce Dickinson's film Chemical Wedding about a professor who gets possessed by the spirit of Crowley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEzVfVgEeRI
thirdwave
04-08-2008, 01:48 AM
Trailer for Bruce Dickinson's film Chemical Wedding about a professor who gets possessed by the spirit of Crowley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEzVfVgEeRI
here is a bit of Bruce speaking bot the film...
not sure what the film would be like, I would not imagine it to be very complimentary... that being said I think its just a DVD release so might be a privately made.....
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WbN978XNNNc&feature=related
shiva_lingam
04-08-2008, 01:54 AM
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/
It's written Aleister anyway...
damagedbrainn
04-08-2008, 02:06 AM
Alan Watts, Aldous Huxley, Every Hindu Monk ever, and more all used drugs for spiritual gain :)
as for the sexual rituals, one has led to the fact that Crowley is very likely George W Bushes Grandfather on his Mum's side (ie Crowley is Barbera Bushes Dad). Listen to Alex Jones interviewing Freeman for proof.
Copy and Paste time:
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http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.html
Saturday, April 01, 2006
George W. Bush, Barbara Bush, and Aleister Crowley
Few people understand that one of the most notorious individuals in British history may have contributed to the lineage of our current president. Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- came to know a great many remarkable people, including the maternal grandmother of George W. Bush. "Know," in this case, may be taken in the Biblical sense. Evidence points to the disturbing possibility that he was the true father of Barbara Bush, the former First Lady and mother to George W. Bush.
F-A-K-E
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http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/11/lonelygirl15-crowley-bush-and-more.html
Friday, November 24, 2006
Lonelygirl15, Crowley, Bush and more
Not for the first time, someone has glommed onto one of my memes and achieved the fame and fortune which the fates have denied to yours truly. I have learned to be philosophical about such occurrences.
In this episode, we learn not only that Aleister Crowley was the father of Barbara Bush, but that GWB himself might well be the true father of Bree, a.k.a. Lonelygirl, the heroine of these "vlogs" (short for videologs). Apparently, the AC-Bush linkage is a key factor within the ongoing mythos.
Here is the semi-official Loneleygirl wiki page on Aleister Crowley. Much of the data is hilariously wrong. Crowley did not translate the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Although he had picked up smatterings of many languages, the only foreign tongue he understood well enough to translate was French. Crowley did not know Anton LaVey, and he knew Hubbard only by his reputation -- which was, even then, odious. Cakes of Light were baked not with "the blood of a child" (except in a very metaphorical sense); they were baked with -- well, spunk. The age of AIDS has forced a recipe change, to the consternation of some purists.
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http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2007/07/so-many-amazing-things-have-occurred.html
Friday, July 27, 2007
Spot the fake news stories!
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http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2007/02/no-matter-how-cynical-you-get-you-cant.html
Scroll down a bit and you'll see a post about the Reverend Moon -- and how Associated Press re-wrote a story to protect him in a criminal matter. Everything I wrote is fully provable. So far as I know, mine is the only blog to bring attention to AP's odd behavior (which was first pointed out to me by a correspondent). No other site has linked to the story.
Today, I checked my stats and found that six new sites linked to my April 1, 2006 post about Aleister Crowley as the father of Barbara Bush. That's just one day.
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http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/12/maniac-time.html
Friday, December 29, 2006
Maniac time
"After I am dead, people will say that I gave birth to the 20th century" -- Aleister Crowley
Once more, the dark insinuation of a Bush/Crowley connection. The meme spreads. It cannot be killed.
Neither can the right-wing's fondness for False Quotation Syndrome. AC never said those words or any similar words.
Either way, we see here -- as in our earlier discussions of Aaron Russo's work, or of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" quote -- that right-wing conspiracy buffs possess a psychological deformity which prevents them from accurately quoting anyone on any subject.
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From this thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1492&page=3
Notice the heroic way in which "Freeman" defends his claim. What a trooper.
thirdwave
04-08-2008, 02:21 AM
Copy and Paste time:
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http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.html
Saturday, April 01, 2006
George W. Bush, Barbara Bush, and Aleister Crowley
Few people understand that one of the most notorious individuals in British history may have contributed to the lineage of our current president. Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- came to know a great many remarkable people, including the maternal grandmother of George W. Bush. "Know," in this case, may be taken in the Biblical sense. Evidence points to the disturbing possibility that he was the true father of Barbara Bush, the former First Lady and mother to George W. Bush.
F-A-K-E
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http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/11/lonelygirl15-crowley-bush-and-more.html
Friday, November 24, 2006
Lonelygirl15, Crowley, Bush and more
Not for the first time, someone has glommed onto one of my memes and achieved the fame and fortune which the fates have denied to yours truly. I have learned to be philosophical about such occurrences.
In this episode, we learn not only that Aleister Crowley was the father of Barbara Bush, but that GWB himself might well be the true father of Bree, a.k.a. Lonelygirl, the heroine of these "vlogs" (short for videologs). Apparently, the AC-Bush linkage is a key factor within the ongoing mythos.
Here is the semi-official Loneleygirl wiki page on Aleister Crowley. Much of the data is hilariously wrong. Crowley did not translate the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Although he had picked up smatterings of many languages, the only foreign tongue he understood well enough to translate was French. Crowley did not know Anton LaVey, and he knew Hubbard only by his reputation -- which was, even then, odious. Cakes of Light were baked not with "the blood of a child" (except in a very metaphorical sense); they were baked with -- well, spunk. The age of AIDS has forced a recipe change, to the consternation of some purists.
---------------
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2007/07/so-many-amazing-things-have-occurred.html
Friday, July 27, 2007
Spot the fake news stories!
---------------
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2007/02/no-matter-how-cynical-you-get-you-cant.html
Scroll down a bit and you'll see a post about the Reverend Moon -- and how Associated Press re-wrote a story to protect him in a criminal matter. Everything I wrote is fully provable. So far as I know, mine is the only blog to bring attention to AP's odd behavior (which was first pointed out to me by a correspondent). No other site has linked to the story.
Today, I checked my stats and found that six new sites linked to my April 1, 2006 post about Aleister Crowley as the father of Barbara Bush. That's just one day.
----------------
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/12/maniac-time.html
Friday, December 29, 2006
Maniac time
"After I am dead, people will say that I gave birth to the 20th century" -- Aleister Crowley
Once more, the dark insinuation of a Bush/Crowley connection. The meme spreads. It cannot be killed.
Neither can the right-wing's fondness for False Quotation Syndrome. AC never said those words or any similar words.
Either way, we see here -- as in our earlier discussions of Aaron Russo's work, or of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" quote -- that right-wing conspiracy buffs possess a psychological deformity which prevents them from accurately quoting anyone on any subject.
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From this thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1492&page=3
Notice the heroic way in which "Freeman" defends his claim. What a trooper.
the odd this is is that Crowley's parents where nothing to do with the elite and where die hard christians... this is what turned him against it so much.... so it does not say much for the potency of the Bush blood line...
and on top of that even if he was her father, it proves nothing more other than thay had sex!... I believe a fair few ladies could claim to have had sex with AC...
phonicboom
04-08-2008, 02:41 AM
Copy and Paste time:
Like any such point it can be argued, but i'm not here to argue, only bring my latest thoughts to the table.
damaged brain has a habit of forcefully arguing points about Masons and Bloodlines with quotes from such amazing off the wall sources as Wikipedia, I refer you to the Famous Freemasons Exposed thread for one proof of this.
I enjoy speculation outside the "truth" of common belief, and I refer you to the interview between Alex Jones and Freeman for where my interest was aroused over my point :) that is my point, thats what I said and I have no more to say on it :)
amethyst
04-08-2008, 02:44 AM
Yes, I own his whole collection and all his "best sellers"......especially his "recipe" books............
;)
damagedbrainn
04-08-2008, 04:49 AM
Like any such point it can be argued, but i'm not here to argue, only bring my latest thoughts to the table.
damaged brain has a habit of forcefully arguing points about Masons and Bloodlines with quotes from such amazing off the wall sources as Wikipedia, I refer you to the Famous Freemasons Exposed thread for one proof of this.
I enjoy speculation outside the "truth" of common belief, and I refer you to the interview between Alex Jones and Freeman for where my interest was aroused over my point :) that is my point, thats what I said and I have no more to say on it :)
No, this particular point cannot be argued. Whether or not Crowley was a positive or a negative influence can be argued. Whether or not Crowley was intelligent or moronic can be argued. Those will always be primarily a matter of personal opinion. But whether or not Crowley is the father of Barbara Bush....that represents a literal, concrete event for which evidence should be available to support. It either happened or it didn't, there is no gray area to negotiate. And not only is there zero proof to back up the claim, there's proof which clearly indicates that the whole thing was a joke that numerous people, in their lazy ignorance, took too seriously without ever bothering to investigate the source of the claim.
The discrediting of this claim actually bares no significance at all to the overall argument since the fact that Crowley isn't Barbara's father neither paints him nor the Bush family in a better or worse light. In those terms, it doesn't really matter much at all. The significance of it lies entirely in its demonstration of how gullible and blindly accepting some conspiracy followers can be as well as how abysmally poor the research methods of certain conspiracy theorists are. In other words, has nothing at all to do with the credibility (or lack thereof) of either Crowley or the Bush family, but rather the credibility of researchers like Freeman and those that follow them and swallow everything they say as truth, without a second thought or moment's hesitation.
phonicboom
04-08-2008, 06:12 AM
many would argue against you, there is plenty more to it than the way you tell it - unless you saw the sperm miss then it is down to argument, of which i will not be a part.
jos08
04-08-2008, 07:27 AM
For me, AC is just another someone to investigate and see what he was actually up to and why. On the other hand instead of talking about theories that you can't prove, there are a lot of other interesting people and scientific stuff that you guys/girls can look into and see what you can achieve with and what they mean such as Neuro-linguistic programming. All of this is useful and you are basically widening your knowledge.
thirdwave
04-08-2008, 10:14 AM
For me, AC is just another someone to investigate and see what he was actually up to and why. On the other hand instead of talking about theories that you can't prove, there are a lot of other interesting people and scientific stuff that you guys/girls can look into and see what you can achieve with and what they mean such as Neuro-linguistic programming. All of this is useful and you are basically widening your knowledge.
IMO, Crowley was an eccentric and OTT person who new that mankind where being screwed emotionally and that people where way to imprisoned sexually... and intellectually...
through magick he found he could expose this and also remedy it...
of course like all eccentric passionate artist they don't really see a finish line...
He was a fasinating person and also exposed allot of the evil going on in the word along time ago, but most were to stupid and defensive to listen.... he found ignorance more funny than frustrating.
this is what I keep saying, even if the guy ended up getting possessed by satan him self (which i don't think was the case) its still knowledge!.. but others seem to think knowledge should be selective.
lol, if he was the most evil man in the world, then IMO even more reason all his books should be read!
psych641
04-08-2008, 11:09 AM
Trailer for Bruce Dickinson's film Chemical Wedding about a professor who gets possessed by the spirit of Crowley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEzVfVgEeRI
:D
cheers, looking forward to this :cool:
mondo23
04-08-2008, 01:46 PM
:D
cheers, looking forward to this :cool:
Its been and gone. It didnt get a major release but should be out on DVD quite soon.
psych641
04-08-2008, 03:50 PM
its Been And Gone. It Didnt Get A Major Release But Should Be Out On Dvd Quite Soon.
08/09/2008 :)