My theory on RFID Cards & the implanted microchip

[steevo]

I think that, in the name of security, they are going to introduce a new "passport" that is used on buses and trains (to start off with) similar to the Oyster Card that is used currently in London and then incorporate it with your normal passport for flights eventually. I think that they will abolish the Oyster Card and replace it with a "passport". The Oyster Card which is currently in use AUTOMATICALLY tops itself up if the credit goes below £5 (ie it is ALREADY connected to your bank account).
The "passport" would speed up travel by using RFID technology to prevent people having to queue but the people who DONT have a "passport" would obviously have to queue. It will be the same on the buses, no queuing of paying because money would be deducted from the "passport" when exiting the bus/train.
The RFID chip will store biometric details and also ALL OF YOUR BANK DETAILS and any licences that you hold such as your driving licence, smoking licence etc and it would make Bank Debit/Credit Cards obsolete because the "passport" would be the size of a Bank Card and could also be used in the Cash Machines.
All good and well SO FAR (well not REALLY but just for the sake of argument...)

Now, what happens when the passport is lost or stolen ????? (Remember those data discs that keep going missing ? Well, if you lose the "passport" then you may not appear to exist because those data discs somehow got "mislaid" and you would have a job convincing people that you are who you say you are. A DNA database and a biometric database would need to be set up to be used in situations like this but it's not ideal.
You wouldnt be able to draw money out or ride on a bus or a train until it's sorted out. You wouldnt even be able to drive your car because remember the driving licence is incorpoated into the lost "passport".
That is the moment when the people would accept the implanted microchip. YOU CAN NEVER LOSE IT. Genius!

The next stop would be the cashless society.

[marpat]

I think that, in the name of security, they are going to introduce a new "passport" that is used on buses and trains (to start off with) similar to the Oyster Card that is used currently in London and then incorporate it with your normal passport for flights eventually. I think that they will abolish the Oyster Card and replace it with a "passport". The Oyster Card which is currently in use AUTOMATICALLY tops itself up if the credit goes below £5 (ie it is ALREADY connected to your bank account).
The "passport" would speed up travel by using RFID technology to prevent people having to queue but the people who DONT have a "passport" would obviously have to queue. It will be the same on the buses, no queuing of paying because money would be deducted from the "passport" when exiting the bus/train.
The RFID chip will store biometric details and also ALL OF YOUR BANK DEATILS and any licences that you hold such as your diving licence, smoking licence etc and it would make Bank Debit/Credit Cards obsolete because the "passport" would be the size of a Bank Card and could also be used in the Cash Machines.
All good and well SO FAR (well not REALLY but just for the sake of argument...)

Now, what happens when the passport is lost or stolen ????? (Remember those data discs that keep going missing ? Well, if you lose the "passport" then you may not appear to exist because those data discs somehow got "mislaid" and you would have a job convincing people that you are who you say you are. A DNA database and a biometric database would need to be set up to be used in situations like this but it's not ideal.
You wouldnt be able to draw money out or ride on a bus or a train until it's sorted out. You wouldnt even be able to drive your car because remember the driving licence is incorpoated into the lost "passport".
That is the moment when the people would accept the implanted microchip. YOU CAN NEVER LOSE IT. Genius!

The next stop would be the cashless society.

You can lose an implant though. Technology is not foolproof and there is a good probability of such a chip breaking down and not working, which would mean having to get new ones all the time, ergo the connection to the individual is lost. There is also the problem of changes of technology in that such chips would be out of date within a short period so that to increase efficiency newer models would need implanting. I am of the opinion myself that it is not viable to chip the population on purely practical grounds, but who knows.There are a number of things that could damage chips such as EMF, static, and magnetic fields.

[steevo]

You can lose an implant though. Technology is not foolproof and there is a good probability of such a chip breaking down and not working, which would mean having to get new ones all the time, ergo the connection to the individual is lost. There is also the problem of changes of technology in that such chips would be out of date within a short period so that to increase efficiency newer models would need implanting. I am of the opinion myself that it is not viable to chip the population on purely practical grounds, but who knows.There are a number of things that could damage chips such as EMF, static, and magnetic fields.

That makes the prospect even worse. Who knows what new technology they may replace these RFID microchips with, and probably without informing the public of what these changes are going to be. They are already saying that they have created microchips that go directly into the brain.
Thanks for replying Marpat.

[magnus]

I was watching tv and and the program was about people (in U.S.A.) who had their credit card etc stolen....and someone else pretending to be them....one person (afro American male) went to jail for 24 ours because the police did not belive him...he didn't have any ID.....so HE went to jail....so:rolleyes:............

[quester123]

That makes the prospect even worse. Who knows what new technology they may replace these RFID microchips with, and probably without informing the public of what these changes are going to be. They are already saying that they have created microchips that go directly into the brain.
Thanks for replying Marpat.

Hi steevo
Have you heard about the stolen 3,000 blank passports and visas worth around £2.5 ?
Auntie beeb news article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7530180.stm)

[steevo]

Hi steevo
Have you heard about the stolen 3,000 blank passports and visas worth around £2.5 ?
Auntie beeb news article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7530180.stm)

Yeah that is good a good example. Thanks quester I forgot about that. Maybe that's WHY those passport got "stolen", just so they can highlight to us how unsafe our current passports are and how our identities can be cloned. Cloned are not really possible if our bodies were chipped (well they probably could be cloned but they could use that line to get us to support implanted microchips). And maybe there is gonna be a spate of cloned passports causing confusion and problems for people when catching planes this year or to open fraudulent bank accounts etc ? It's a possibility.

This is from that BBC news report above :-

But fraud experts say they can still be used as a form of identification and even for travel in countries where the chip technology is not used.

"That is because they can be used by putting in biographical information of your own, not necessarily getting the chip information right, and then you can use them to open up bank accounts or actually get employment," Tom Craig, an ex-Scotland Yard fraud officer told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

[quester123]

Yeah that is good a good example. Thanks quester I forgot about that. Maybe that's WHY those passport got "stolen", just so they can highlight to us how unsafe our current passports are and how our identities can be cloned. Cloned are not really possible if our bodies were chipped (well they probably could be cloned but they could use that line to get us to support implanted microchips). And maybe there is gonna be a spate of cloned passports causing confusion and problems for people when catching planes this year or to open fraudulent bank accounts etc ? It's a possibility.

This is from that BBC news report above :-

No worries Steevo.
I am often accused by very well meaning & loving friends and relations for thinking "too deep"
But...Can we ever really think too deep?
Shouldn't we be able to question absolutely everything?
Let us also consider the fact that some passports, apparently survived 9/11...

[sukyspook]

Smartwater.

Barcode.

Stencilled on the skin - invisible.

All that is really needed is access to the 'central database' being compiled in everything we do.

The barcode merely accesses your account, which will contain your dna; fingerprints; bank/health/passport etc etc and voila - no need for messy implants - the barcode is the key - just my theory of course.

Conditioning for the acceptance of 'smartwater' has been going on for some years with signs all over our town/city on lamp posts - there's one right across the road from my house and at least a dozen within a few hundred yards. Big Brother has also recognised the usefulness of advertising on the backs of buses - nothing like being indoctrinated whilst sitting at the traffic lights.....

[lightworks]

I think that, in the name of security, they are going to introduce a new "passport" that is used on buses and trains (to start off with) similar to the Oyster Card that is used currently in London and then incorporate it with your normal passport for flights eventually. I think that they will abolish the Oyster Card and replace it with a "passport". The Oyster Card which is currently in use AUTOMATICALLY tops itself up if the credit goes below £5 (ie it is ALREADY connected to your bank account).
The "passport" would speed up travel by using RFID technology to prevent people having to queue but the people who DONT have a "passport" would obviously have to queue. It will be the same on the buses, no queuing of paying because money would be deducted from the "passport" when exiting the bus/train.
The RFID chip will store biometric details and also ALL OF YOUR BANK DETAILS and any licences that you hold such as your driving licence, smoking licence etc and it would make Bank Debit/Credit Cards obsolete because the "passport" would be the size of a Bank Card and could also be used in the Cash Machines.
All good and well SO FAR (well not REALLY but just for the sake of argument...)

Now, what happens when the passport is lost or stolen ????? (Remember those data discs that keep going missing ? Well, if you lose the "passport" then you may not appear to exist because those data discs somehow got "mislaid" and you would have a job convincing people that you are who you say you are. A DNA database and a biometric database would need to be set up to be used in situations like this but it's not ideal.
You wouldnt be able to draw money out or ride on a bus or a train until it's sorted out. You wouldnt even be able to drive your car because remember the driving licence is incorpoated into the lost "passport".
That is the moment when the people would accept the implanted microchip. YOU CAN NEVER LOSE IT. Genius!

The next stop would be the cashless society.

no it wont
because out of free will
I choose it not to be
who else agrees with me
I am me I am free