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homebrew1973

02-08-2008, 10:02 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7539062.stm

Now I`d like to know if he`s one too? Maybe, but at least he`s right about saying there`s no difference between Labour and the Tories.

noobcybot

02-08-2008, 10:04 PM

Well he doesant like bullshitters and he doesant like arselickers so he must fucking hate the NWO.

w1nstonsm1th84

03-08-2008, 02:11 AM

He is a 'Sir' though, so I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him to be honest. :-/

guuna

03-08-2008, 02:57 AM

Sugar, well more like diabetes actually.

Another NWO Stooge for sure. It's just always the same flotsam that floats to the top of the tank:mad:

lizzy

03-08-2008, 03:07 AM

Well he doesant like bullshitters and he doesant like arselickers so he must fucking hate the NWO.

He is the NWO but does'nt like to be continually reminded by A's an B's.

danster82

03-08-2008, 03:46 PM

Everyone or nothing is just more fascism thinking. I dont really care if people are genuine or not anymore I want real issue bought up like the monetary system and who owns it.

drhemp

03-08-2008, 04:40 PM

I always thought the Apprentice was shit and now he has kissed the arse of Brown I have another reason not to like Sir Alan Sugar.

sir bentley drummle

03-08-2008, 06:17 PM

he has kissed the arse of Brown

What a thoroughly disgusting thought - you've put me off my afternoon tea:eek:

dreamweaver

29-05-2009, 06:06 PM

I don't know if many people here are familiar with the works of "Cassetteboy" - they're a duo who edit famous people's speeches to take the piss out of them. They've just done one of Alan Sugar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxi6QDwQyLU

Here's an earlier one they did when Tony Blair was still PM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9963eJ6kLS0

truthseeker1980

29-05-2009, 06:11 PM

Of course he is one of them, you can't make billions without being one of them, or joining some kind of society, remember it's not what you know but who you know. So to get that far up and make billions he has to belong to some kind of secret society, seen some dodgy handshakes on his show anyway.

Then there is the fact he looks like a lizard anyway. IMO.

apekteina lordosis

29-05-2009, 06:57 PM

brainfreeze

29-05-2009, 07:16 PM

simple question "sir" alan... why do we have to pay to live on this planet?

is it to keep you in helicopters and chauffeured rolls-royces? i think so. you've made your fortune peddling ugly electrical toot that magically falls apart a couple of years later and it shows, who is buying amstrad products in 2009? but that's okay cos you moved into property a few years ago. just because "there's no sentiment in business" doesn't mean shitting on people to make money is okay. how many people will apply to appear on "the apprentice 2010"? fucking thousands i'd wager. but wait! there's more cos 2010 will see a new show called "the junior apprentice" being broadcast. yep not satisfied with warping the minds of the 20-30somethings who appeared in the past and currently, not to mention the millions of people who watch the show, you and the bbc are going for the kids market- the contestants in the junior version will be between 16 and 17 years old. it's cringy enough watching clueless adults flap about trying to stab each other in the back, let alone children trying to impress you and the viewers with their business skills.

"sir" alan might be a barrowboy made good, but it's a blinkered vision of the world that he lives in. no doubt you do your bit for charity and surely that feels good. giving something back and all that. but again why do we have to pay to live on this planet? is that something he's ever pondered? but it ain't all bad, i admit i watch the apprentice as i find it heartening to see the ways and morals of "business" being exposed for what it is. maybe that's why "sir" alan appears on the show. perhaps that his subtle way of asking the why do we have to pay to live on this planet question...

I don't have an opinion on alan Sugar, I don't know him. But, from what I've gleaned, he made his fortune starting with a market stall and working himself to where he is. That's a good thing, I think.

I like watching the apprentice because it does show you that opportunities are pretty much everywhere, if you just stop and think. It's not even as if the contestants have to come up with the ideas on their own they only have to excecute them.

When Mandella came into power along with affirmative action there were plenty of us whities who were unemployable but still had to live - no social security out there like here in the UK, you're on your own mate - and we were forced into being resorceful and starting our own business simply to feed the kids. It was a raging success and we sold it within six months at an absolute fortune (to us at the time at least). Having lived the hard slog of building a business I enjoy watching the apprentice.

So Baaaa! :)

apekteina lordosis

29-05-2009, 09:12 PM

I don't have an opinion on alan Sugar, I don't know him. But, from what I've gleaned, he made his fortune starting with a market stall and working himself to where he is. That's a good thing, I think.

I like watching the apprentice because it does show you that opportunities are pretty much everywhere, if you just stop and think. It's not even as if the contestants have to come up with the ideas on their own they only have to excecute them.

When Mandella came into power along with affirmative action there were plenty of us whities who were unemployable but still had to live - no social security out there like here in the UK, you're on your own mate - and we were forced into being resorceful and starting our own business simply to feed the kids. It was a raging success and we sold it within six months at an absolute fortune (to us at the time at least). Having lived the hard slog of building a business I enjoy watching the apprentice.

So Baaaa! :)

soz but the point i am making is why do we have to pay to live on this planet? i ain't saying people shouldn't contribute some of their time and effort to maintaining fundamental basics for everyone the world over- a roof over every head, food in every belly and medical care for all if and when req'd.

the snowball of generations indocrinated and forced to abide by the system of "money" has bred a collective mindset that doesn't dare to even ponder a world sans money. i've talked about this with friends and relatives and they think i'm nutjob for even considering it. they pipe up that people are lazy and wouldn't contribute, but that is a symptom of "money". given the opportunity to be able to exist with plenty of freetime, in peace and without all the bullshit that money stirs up i really do believe people would contribute.

what's annoying about "sir" alan is the fact he should know how divisive and negative "money" is for the world, but rather than try to bring about profound change to the way we live our lives instead he perpetuates the monetary bondage.

this song should be just as relevant for humans...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89U-N-5w0g

kiwimaj

29-05-2009, 09:45 PM

soz but the point i am making is why do we have to pay to live on this planet? i ain't saying people shouldn't contribute some of their time and effort to maintaining fundamental basics for everyone the world over- a roof over every head, food in every belly and medical care for all if and when req'd.

the snowball of generations indocrinated and forced to abide by the system of "money" has bred a collective mindset that doesn't dare to even ponder a world sans money. i've talked about this with friends and relatives and they think i'm nutjob for even considering it. they pipe up that people are lazy and wouldn't contribute, but that is a symptom of "money". given the opportunity to be able to exist with plenty of freetime, in peace and without all the bullshit that money stirs up i really do believe people would contribute.

what's annoying about "sir" alan is the fact he should know how divisive and negative "money" is for the world, but rather than try to bring about profound change to the way we live our lives instead he perpetuates the monetary bondage.

this song should be just as relevant for humans...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89U-N-5w0g

I must say apekteina lordosis, you have made some BRILLIANT points in our replies. We both have the same thoughts (mindset) on this subject, I feel. Indeed, why should we have to pay to live on this planet? So...the Creator (I believe in one) made the planet...for the highest bidder? I don't think so ! What is even more believable is if there is NO creator, so the planet simply just came into existence, def, without a doubt, belongs to NO BODY...it is a free place. Every single life form that is born here has the right to live here, to at least be fed, watered and housed...how dare anyone force use their might to control and keep us in poverty...so that they may have all the best stuff going on this planet, at the detriment of lots of others who are just as equal and worthy of living here...

Oh, it makes my blood boil !!:mad:...we have all been conned, on a massive scale...what makes, for example, one group of "people" (and I use that term rather loosely) have the right to "ownership" of say, a diamond mine...Mother Earth created that diamond mine for EVERYONE, equally,...so why is it one group of beings control it??

I wonder if there is a planet, somewhere, that houses beings and every being on that planet lives in complete and utter freedom...no governing "bodies", no wars, no hell, just pure kindness, happiness, community and LOVE...:)

(someone set an alarm so I know when to wake up from my fantasy land dreamworld...)...:rolleyes:

largejack

29-05-2009, 09:57 PM

I despise him, the arrogant tosser :mad: Alan Sugar is a knight who takes pleasure in his ego and people kissing his feet. I hope he suffers the same fate as Brown personally.

If he spoke to me or my family like he speaks to his 'servants' I'd feel inclined to punch him in the face.

Sir Alan Sugar? Sir Alan Aspartame more like.

apekteina lordosis

29-05-2009, 10:37 PM

I must say apekteina lordosis, you have made some BRILLIANT points in our replies. We both have the same thoughts (mindset) on this subject, I feel. Indeed, why should we have to pay to live on this planet? So...the Creator (I believe in one) made the planet...for the highest bidder? I don't think so ! What is even more believable is if there is NO creator, so the planet simply just came into existence, def, without a doubt, belongs to NO BODY...it is a free place. Every single life form that is born here has the right to live here, to at least be fed, watered and housed...how dare anyone force use their might to control and keep us in poverty...so that they may have all the best stuff going on this planet, at the detriment of lots of others who are just as equal and worthy of living here...

Oh, it makes my blood boil !!:mad:...we have all been conned, on a massive scale...what makes, for example, one group of "people" (and I use that term rather loosely) have the right to "ownership" of say, a diamond mine...Mother Earth created that diamond mine for EVERYONE, equally,...so why is it one group of beings control it??

I wonder if there is a planet, somewhere, that houses beings and every being on that planet lives in complete and utter freedom...no governing "bodies", no wars, no hell, just pure kindness, happiness, community and LOVE...:)

(someone set an alarm so I know when to wake up from my fantasy land dreamworld...)...:rolleyes:

the sad irony is that we only have one life, and it's the same for the elite. they can't take their wealth with them when they kick the bucket and the finest epitaph history could write for them, that would have them remembered favourably for thousands of years to come, would be if they freed everyone from the shackles of money, and ushered in true global equality.

of course perhaps there really is something after death, and all we can do is try to be true to our nature, the one that hasn't been perverted by money, organised religions and the laws that bind them as well as treating others as we'd like to be treated ourselves. that way when we pass on we can hold our head high with dignity, that dignity that the elite try to steal from us all, and say we tried to make a positive difference. we might not see true freedom in our own lifetimes, but at some point in the future it will happen.

one of the great things about this forum, rarely found in such genuine spirit elsewhere on the net, is there is a real sense of community. we're bouncing ideas of each and every other and planting seeds. some of them might wither and that's the way it is, but plenty of them flourish and will continue to grow.
i don't really comprehend why i occasionally say the following... "the hacienda will be built" but it stems from a interview that one of the founders of factory records and the haçienda club in manchester. fuck knows what he actually said, i just align it with the steamy nights of dancing at the haç... pure joyous communal spirit. that's what life is meant to be like. community, connecting, empathy, the free expression of emotions. sure fair enough back in the madchester day most people were off their tits on mdma, but the drugs broke down the barriers that have been put up to stop us being ourselves.

anyways i am warbling now so i cease ;):)

brainfreeze

30-05-2009, 02:45 AM

soz but the point i am making is why do we have to pay to live on this planet? i ain't saying people shouldn't contribute some of their time and effort to maintaining fundamental basics for everyone the world over- a roof over every head, food in every belly and medical care for all if and when req'd.

the snowball of generations indocrinated and forced to abide by the system of "money" has bred a collective mindset that doesn't dare to even ponder a world sans money. i've talked about this with friends and relatives and they think i'm nutjob for even considering it. they pipe up that people are lazy and wouldn't contribute, but that is a symptom of "money". given the opportunity to be able to exist with plenty of freetime, in peace and without all the bullshit that money stirs up i really do believe people would contribute.

what's annoying about "sir" alan is the fact he should know how divisive and negative "money" is for the world, but rather than try to bring about profound change to the way we live our lives instead he perpetuates the monetary bondage.

this song should be just as relevant for humans...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89U-N-5w0g

He perpetuates the monetary bondage by being a success. The alternative is what?

What are you doing to free us from monatary bondage and is it a practical workable system?

I don't blame Alan Sugar for going from glorified barrow boy to where he is. I too have also always wanted a better lifestyle, one that actually allowed me to live as appose to simply survive paying the bills and the daily grind. I have that now. Materialism is usually shouted at this point, and as I've said before, I live in the material world while I ready myself for the spiritual one.

Go to Africa, where to live on this planet cost you nothing. The majority live in poverty and God bless their souls.

bulletproofheart

30-05-2009, 03:05 AM

The people that go on The Aprentice are slaves.Kissing his ass and trying to impress him just to get a souless dull job and climb the sheeple ladder.

apekteina lordosis

30-05-2009, 04:02 AM

He perpetuates the monetary bondage by being a success. The alternative is what?

What are you doing to free us from monatary bondage and is it a practical workable system?

I don't blame Alan Sugar for going from glorified barrow boy to where he is. I too have also always wanted a better lifestyle, one that actually allowed me to live as appose to simply survive paying the bills and the daily grind. I have that now. Materialism is usually shouted at this point, and as I've said before, I live in the material world while I ready myself for the spiritual one.

Go to Africa, where to live on this planet cost you nothing. The majority live in poverty and God bless their souls.

well i am punting the notion of "why do we have to pay to live on this planet?" about on the net for starters.

"lifestyle" - there's a phrase. essentially material things should serve a purpose aka it's not what the car you drive looks like that's important, it's its ability to get from a to b that is. all a television needs to be able to do is convert a broadcast signal and/or dvd into pictures and audio. there's no reason why everyone on the planet can't have these things. the only difference there'd be is that "material things" wouldn't be branded, they'd be designed and manufactured purely on a fit for purpose basis. and when yer washing machine breaks, you just roll into the community electronics warehouse, drop the broken one off and pick up a new one. consumerism comes with this illusion of choice, yet basically most products made by different corporations do the same thing.

people pay a grand for a fridge which is made by "smeg"- they even stick the brand name in big letters on the fridge door, oblivious to the fact that smeg is short for "smegma" aka nobcheese. frankly anyone stupid enough to pay a grand for such a status symbol of their "lifestyle" is indeed a complete nobcheese. you can pick up a perfectly functional fridge from the likes of argos for 150quid. the going wholesale rate in retail is generally 1/3 retail price. therefore that 150quid fridge cost argos 50quid to buy from the manufacturer. obviously the manufacturer makes a profit and i'd assume the production and distribution cost is 1/3 wholesale price. therefore the reality is a 150quid fridge costs a little over 15quid to produce and distribute.

now imagine the uk split into areas, each of which has the ability to produce different electrical items. each area also has food warehouses, a farm if the land is arable, one main hospital. everyone has a roof over their head. they have an internet connection and a area website listing slots to be filled "working" at the electrical production facility, at the food warehouse, at the farm, at the hospital. say people have agreed to contribute one day a week of their time and effort, in return for a roof over their head, food in their belly and medical care if and when req'd. people would simply log on, see for example that the area farm requires fruit pickers, think oh last week i did a day of making fridges, fancy a change for my one day contribution this week thus they book themselves into a farm slot. simple.

another area has an electrical production facility that makes televisions. another that makes ovens. all areas freely swap what they produce with other areas. result everyone has a television, a fridge, an oven- whatever.
now factor that the world over. want bananas? you ship some local produce that banana producing areas in other countries can't grow themselves to a central hub, bananaland does the same, a plane gets filled up then someone who likes to contribute by flying flies the plane to its destination.

had enough living in one area. check the net for another area to live in, another "country" to live in if ya like. endless possibilities.

so it could well be a lot more than "just" the honest equality of everyone the world over having a roof over their head, food in belly and medical care. but as a fundamental right, nay fundamental must those basics are the ideal foundation to build upon.

but i am realistic, it would take a few generations to reframe the collective mindset to accept this and to comprehend it is the right thing to do in order for this planet to move forward as one. and thus far it's just the input of one bloke whose been out on the cusp looking in on society. imagine what could be achieved if gradually over time more and more people developed the notion.

good luck though with your readying for spiritual existence via subservience in the now to the material world. a materialistic "lifestyle" might be cushy and all, but you are complicit in the misery of billions of people who have just as much right to "comfort" as you have, but don't have anything like that. hundreds of billions of dollars to bomb iraq? no problem. hundreds of billions of dollars to put a roof over every head and food in all bellies? fuck off. numbers on screens, bits of paper that have no veins within them pumping blood and oxygen about. yet money is deemed more important than actual real entities that are living, that do have blood, that have lungs and hearts and a brain and a mind that feels emotions.

brainfreeze

30-05-2009, 04:14 AM

well i am punting the notion of "why do we have to pay to live on this planet?" about on the net for starters.

"lifestyle" - there's a phrase. essentially material things should serve a purpose aka it's not what the car you drive looks like that's important, it's its ability to get from a to b that is. all a television needs to be able to do is convert a broadcast signal and/or dvd into pictures and audio. there's no reason why everyone on the planet can't have these things. the only difference there'd be is that "material things" wouldn't be branded, they'd be designed and manufactured purely on a fit for purpose basis. and when yer washing machine breaks, you just roll into the community electronics warehouse, drop the broken one off and pick up a new one. consumerism comes with this illusion of choice, yet basically most products made by different corporations do the same thing.

people pay a grand for a fridge which is made by "smeg"- they even stick the brand name in big letters on the fridge door, oblivious to the fact that smeg is short for "smegma" aka nobcheese. frankly anyone stupid enough to pay a grand for such a status symbol of their "lifestyle" is indeed a complete nobcheese. you can pick up a perfectly functional fridge from the likes of argos for 150quid. the going wholesale rate in retail is generally 1/3 retail price. therefore that 150quid fridge cost argos 50quid to buy from the manufacturer. obviously the manufacturer makes a profit and i'd assume the production and distribution cost is 1/3 wholesale price. therefore the reality is a 150quid fridge costs a little over 15quid to produce and distribute.

now imagine the uk split into areas, each of which has the ability to produce different electrical items. each area also has food warehouses, a farm if the land is arable, one main hospital. everyone has a roof over their head. they have an internet connection and a area website listing slots to be filled "working" at the electrical production facility, at the food warehouse, at the farm, at the hospital. say people have agreed to contribute one day a week of their time and effort, in return for a roof over their head, food in their belly and medical care if and when req'd. people would simply log on, see for example that the area farm requires fruit pickers, think oh last week i did a day of making fridges, fancy a change for my one day contribution this week thus they book themselves into a farm slot. simple.

another area has an electrical production facility that makes televisions. another that makes ovens. all areas freely swap what they produce with other areas. result everyone has a television, a fridge, an oven- whatever.
now factor that the world over. want bananas? you ship some local produce that banana producing areas in other countries can't grow themselves to a central hub, bananaland does the same, a plane gets filled up then someone who likes to contribute by flying flies the plane to its destination.

had enough living in one area. check the net for another area to live in, another "country" to live in if ya like. endless possibilities.

so it could well be a lot more than "just" the honest equality of everyone the world over having a roof over their head, food in belly and medical care. but as a fundamental right, nay fundamental must those basics are the ideal foundation to build upon.

but i am realistic, it would take a few generations to reframe the collective mindset to accept this and to comprehend it is the right thing to do in order for this planet to move forward as one. and thus far it's just the input of one bloke whose been out on the cusp looking in on society. imagine what could be achieved if gradually over time more and more people developed the notion.

good luck though with your readying for spiritual existence via subservience in the now to the material world. a materialistic "lifestyle" might be cushy and all, but you are complicit in the misery of billions of people who have just as much right to "comfort" as you have, but don't have anything like that. hundreds of billions of dollars to bomb iraq? no problem. hundreds of billions of dollars to put a roof over every head and food in all bellies? fuck off. numbers on screens, bits of paper that have no veins within them pumping blood and oxygen about. yet money is deemed more important than actual real entities that are living, that do have blood, that have lungs and hearts and a brain and a mind that feels emotions.

Like you said, it will take generations to implement this. In an ideal world that is how it would be. In the meantime we all have our struggles and we do what we can to survive or help as we go along.

I'm sorry you see me as complicit in my lifestyle while billions have just as much right to comforts they don't have. You don't know my journey. You don't know my life struggles. I earned and deserve what I have in life. I'm sorry you don't like that, it's the way it is. The past six months have been the first time in my life since the age of 4 that I'm no longer afraid, I am safe and secure, I didn't earn that, it was given to me. Begrude me that, but excuse me for appreciating the soft place I've landed. You don't have to be poor to give a damn.

cruise4

30-05-2009, 05:31 AM

the snowball of generations indocrinated and forced to abide by the system of "money" has bred a collective mindset that doesn't dare to even ponder a world sans money. i've talked about this with friends and relatives and they think i'm nutjob for even considering it. they pipe up that people are lazy and wouldn't contribute, but that is a symptom of "money". given the opportunity to be able to exist with plenty of freetime, in peace and without all the bullshit that money stirs up i really do believe people would contribute.

Really encouraging post. Thank the Lord some people understand economics as practised today is mind control. I believe such a system HAS to come about, and it will be over the kicking and screaming of those used to exploiting the fraud. I can't see how any claim of 'win' can otherwise be made. This is one of the most serious issues. It's so dispiriting finding so many people unable to even think in this direction. But as per usual that makes it the responsibility of those that can see. In the meantime, yes... we are regarded as nutjobs. But nutjobs we are not. On the contrary, we have the real answers.

jammasterj13

30-05-2009, 10:28 AM

largejack

30-05-2009, 11:35 AM

The people that go on The Aprentice are slaves.Kissing his ass and trying to impress him just to get a souless dull job and climb the sheeple ladder.

Indeed, and also to get on the TV and become sub-celebrities and keep their little slave mind and ego happy.

apekteina lordosis

30-05-2009, 02:29 PM

Like you said, it will take generations to implement this. In an ideal world that is how it would be. In the meantime we all have our struggles and we do what we can to survive or help as we go along.

I'm sorry you see me as complicit in my lifestyle while billions have just as much right to comforts they don't have. You don't know my journey. You don't know my life struggles. I earned and deserve what I have in life. I'm sorry you don't like that, it's the way it is. The past six months have been the first time in my life since the age of 4 that I'm no longer afraid, I am safe and secure, I didn't earn that, it was given to me. Begrude me that, but excuse me for appreciating the soft place I've landed. You don't have to be poor to give a damn.

apols brainfreeze, it was a tad harsh of me to suggest you are complicit and i've seen some of your posts in other threads that point out you've had a rough ride. you are right, you don't have to be poor to give a damn- it's just the fact many people are more than comfortable and they see that as achievement, some of em gild their conscience by giving to charity, but "band aid" says it all- sadly it's just a sticky plaster rather than a cure. anyways enjoy your soft place and long may it continue. once again i'm sorry :)

apekteina lordosis

30-05-2009, 02:48 PM

Really encouraging post. Thank the Lord some people understand economics as practised today is mind control. I believe such a system HAS to come about, and it will be over the kicking and screaming of those used to exploiting the fraud. I can't see how any claim of 'win' can otherwise be made. This is one of the most serious issues. It's so dispiriting finding so many people unable to even think in this direction. But as per usual that makes it the responsibility of those that can see. In the meantime, yes... we are regarded as nutjobs. But nutjobs we are not. On the contrary, we have the real answers.

thanks :) in some ways "money" has been a benefit in the sense that the reality is it happened and is happening and it has fuelled the advancement of medicine, science and technology, though a lot of those pursuits seemed to have been in the direction of damping us down rather than liberation. of course a lot of them advancements are extremely nefarious, especially weaponry (or "defence" as they call it), medicines that kill rather than cure and gm food- and they amongst others are the blatant indicators that the future they wish for us all doesn't bode well. i think money has reached beyond its sell-by date and it's time we started developing ideas to replace it that won't impinge on liberty, ways of doing things that when present to the world would easily counter the elites attempt to turn earth into a prison planet.

kiwimaj

30-05-2009, 02:53 PM

The people that go on The Aprentice are slaves.Kissing his ass and trying to impress him just to get a souless dull job and climb the sheeple ladder.

I think you will find the people that go on there are from a casting agency, alot of them seem to have some sort of entertainment background. I am now of the opinion that the people picked for the show come from agencies, not just general members of the public, as we are lead to believe. Bit like Big Brother, X factor and the rest of those so called "reality" shows...if indeed these contestants are from agencies, then this show is a complete con and I must say that this series has to be the worst yet, dull, lifeless, egos...boring, boring, boring and dull.

My 2 cents for today !

:D

charas

30-05-2009, 04:07 PM

Ian2day

30-05-2009, 04:40 PM

dreamweaver

30-05-2009, 05:11 PM

The double decker video, the all in one but looks like seperates hifi tower and the emailer phone all my ideas. Probably loads of others also, but going by that emailer phone there probably just as naf.

Why haven't you sued him for stealing your intellectual copyright then? If you have a case, then you'll make millions.

Unless, of course, you don't have a case...