thoughts shared

[dragonfly]

i must say that since i have been researching some of the things Icke has said and others too, i have come to a new understanding of reality. Because i actually do believe, that the evil and cruelty going on on this planet, is not by chance or coincidence, but has to do with ignorance and prejudice. However, i am open to the "fact" that actual reptilians or spiritual beings of a darker order, are fuelling the human weakness and giving human beings a hard time too. i do believe that there is more to LIFE, than we actually know at present, very much like in the days of Galileo and the TRUTHS discovered about planet earth in those days.

About womanhood, i do find it disturbing that there seems to be a strong influence in this world and times, to percieve women as being defined not so much by CHARACTER or their WISDOM/INTELLIGENCE, but rather by their age, looks and how they should dress up. Woman are getting younger and younger on the billboards, and in the commercials, they are for the most part slim and slender, and have little rounded forms left, and this seems to be the pinecal of womanhood, to be very young and boyish in her apperance! I do also find elements of pedophiliea (sp?) in the way that women are meant to be percieved. If this is juat a natural process in a human evolution, or rather a very controlled and deleberate way of defiling the human thoughts and culture, i do not know. And if i did, i would be elevated to higher grounds, so to speak, but i am aware and alarmed too, as i view WOMANHOOD as being something holistic and not just agebased or based on her looks, attraction and dress-code etc. I am also aware that in ancient cultures, and among the indians of North America, it was normal that she found her place among the most wise and spiritual of her tribe, which to me indicates a holistic view of things. I believe that today, is challenged to find a balance, when it comes to the spiritual, and which part woman do play, and have played here. And since we are all part of the same ONENESS, it should not be a big problem, to have LOVE be the ruling force of this world and universe, rather than the opposite.

Finally, i am also concerned about the growing reports of pedophiliae, around the globe. It alarms me, and concerns me that many live in shame and hide away from the society, as if they were diseased with lepracy. However, i am lightend by the awareness, and the fact that many are coming forth with their tales of horror, and what was done to them and by whom, and the silence that followed it too. I find the children among the most vunerable, and those who suffered from s/a not just in this new generation, but in others past, they should be allowed to tell their story, and it is my personal opinion that the release of energy and healing, when they come forward and start healing within, will be similar to that of the sun when it burts the 600 million tons of brint per second. This i use as a (poor) picture to describe the change involved, when the "meek" are allowed to speak up and share what they know and have gone through, in these times and those past.

Thank you, for letting me share. Forgive me the length of this post. Take Care. :)

[a fine naked fellow]

From the days of Galileo, and the principles that launched a thousand ships.
From the land of the shifting sands, and the long slow mountains.
Our world has existed in space and time and defied them both. And it heartens me to be a part of it all.

Not only are women held at bay and discord, but children and men.
So much media is tantamount to fantasy. But I laugh in the hearts of men and women too.
And animals show me the simple and the necessary. I roll in the grass with the best of em.

Pedophilia is a sad story of mankind, truly. In it is revealed the true extent of our
ignorance, delusion and betrayal. May we see ourselves as one and make new children
clearer for our sake. And sing a song deep enough to heal all the art and argument of sexuality.

Yippie !

[dragonfly]

:) thank you!

[ho1ogram]

From the days of Galileo, and the principles that launched a thousand ships.
From the land of the shifting sands, and the long slow mountains.
Our world has existed in space and time and defied them both. And it heartens me to be a part of it all.

Not only are women held at bay and discord, but children and men.
So much media is tantamount to fantasy. But I laugh in the hearts of men and women too.
And animals show me the simple and the necessary. I roll in the grass with the best of em.

Pedophilia is a sad story of mankind, truly. In it is revealed the true extent of our
ignorance, delusion and betrayal. May we see ourselves as one and make new children
clearer for our sake. And sing a song deep enough to heal all the art and argument of sexuality.

Yippie !

Thank you.

[Anders Lindman]

Woman are getting younger and younger on the billboards, and in the commercials, they are for the most part slim and slender, and have little rounded forms left, and this seems to be the pinecal of womanhood, to be very young and boyish in her apperance!

I saw fashion posters today in Stockholm with pictures of what looked more like girls than women. It could be only a temporary trend in the fashion industry. I also saw a fashion picture of a man much older than we usually find in such pictures, with a text like: "The difference between a man and a boy". So for men, one of the trends is to have older seasoned men, while for women one trend is to have children pretending to be women. :confused:

[ho1ogram]

Thank you, for letting me share. Forgive me the length of this post. Take Care. :)Make your posts as long as you want, you don't need forgiveness.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts... you expressed yourself wonderfully and I whole heartedly agree with your thoughts. Awesome post. Thanks. :)
Have you seen the wonderful people expressing them selves without shame and embarassment in the photo thread? :cool: :)

[tru3]

these are very perceptive comments that go to the heart of the matter, i believe, dragonfly.

About womanhood, i do find it disturbing that there seems to be a strong influence in this world and times, to percieve women as being defined not so much by CHARACTER or their WISDOM/INTELLIGENCE, but rather by their age, looks and how they should dress up. Woman are getting younger and younger on the billboards, and in the commercials, they are for the most part slim and slender, and have little rounded forms left, and this seems to be the pinecal of womanhood, to be very young and boyish in her apperance! I do also find elements of pedophiliea (sp?) in the way that women are meant to be percieved. If this is juat a natural process in a human evolution, or rather a very controlled and deleberate way of defiling the human thoughts and culture, i do not know.

the goddess is awakening on this planet, and there are a group of men hellbent to suppress it. not all men are pigs, but the group i'm talking about are definitely bestial.

youth, weight, even things like shaving pubic hair, are all subtle signals that women should remain girls.

pedophilia is always about control and power, not about sex. that should give us some clue as to the origin of this message.

If this is juat a natural process in a human evolution, or rather a very controlled and deleberate way of defiling the human thoughts and culture, i do not know. And if i did, i would be elevated to higher grounds, so to speak, but i am aware and alarmed too, as i view WOMANHOOD as being something holistic and not just agebased or based on her looks, attraction and dress-code etc. I am also aware that in ancient cultures, and among the indians of North America, it was normal that she found her place among the most wise and spiritual of her tribe, which to me indicates a holistic view of things. I believe that today, is challenged to find a balance, when it comes to the spiritual, and which part woman do play, and have played here. And since we are all part of the same ONENESS, it should not be a big problem, to have LOVE be the ruling force of this world and universe, rather than the opposite.

the challenge of our times, imv, is that men open up the fourth chakra (the heart) and women open up the fifth chakra (truth, surrender to the Divine). to me, that means men support women as they define themselves as powerful women, in a completely new way, whatever that looks like. men cannot know what this is, we can only assist. i'm going through this process with my wife right now. she is struggling to redefine herself spiritually, physically and professionally. this is truly the time for women to step forward and manifest their vision of truth.

Finally, i am also concerned about the growing reports of pedophiliae, around the globe. It alarms me, and concerns me that many live in shame and hide away from the society, as if they were diseased with lepracy. However, i am lightend by the awareness, and the fact that many are coming forth with their tales of horror, and what was done to them and by whom, and the silence that followed it too. I find the children among the most vunerable, and those who suffered from s/a not just in this new generation, but in others past, they should be allowed to tell their story, and it is my personal opinion that the release of energy and healing, when they come forward and start healing within, will be similar to that of the sun when it burts the 600 million tons of brint per second. This i use as a (poor) picture to describe the change involved, when the "meek" are allowed to speak up and share what they know and have gone through, in these times and those past.

the suppression of women and pedophilia as it is practised today are closely linked, all the way back to atlantis. the same families know that suppression of women leads to the dampening of the planet's life force, and that pedophilia is used as a gateway to open to other dimensions, and facilitate predatory communion with what are termed 'macrobial' life forms, kind of like "Q" in star trek.

i highly recommend michael tsarion's "destruction of atlantis".

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3800467000933683345&q=michael+tsarion

for me, he has really helped put many things i have intuitively understood in some kind of context, rather than a random sequence of isolated factoids.

he details that the patriarchy and the extradimensionals are entertwined. there is a bitter hatred and fear of the goddess in these beings and their minions.

at the same time, is was the original eves who walked away from the adamic males, and went to lemuria with the "sons of the serpent", the first-generation genetic experiments by the original extraterrestrials.

the heirs of the adamic experiment to this day hold an ancient grudge against womankind for abandoning them. they lurk in religious heirarchies, the military, the world of commerce (the good ol' boys club is alive and well in kentucky :rolleyes: ), and, forgive me in advance for being so rash to say so, in women themselves. nobody is harder on a powerful woman than other women, sometimes.

it's relevance today is the awareness that there was betrayal on both sides, and that the future of our species depends on healing the male/female split.

[mcmenek1]

About womanhood, i do find it disturbing that there seems to be a strong influence in this world and times, to percieve women as being defined not so much by CHARACTER or their WISDOM/INTELLIGENCE, but rather by their age, looks and how they should dress up. Woman are getting younger and younger on the billboards, and in the commercials, they are for the most part slim and slender, and have little rounded forms left, and this seems to be the pinecal of womanhood, to be very young and boyish in her apperance! I do also find elements of pedophiliea (sp?) in the way that women are meant to be percieved. If this is juat a natural process in a human evolution, or rather a very controlled and deleberate way of defiling the human thoughts and culture, i do not know. And if i did, i would be elevated to higher grounds, so to speak, but i am aware and alarmed too, as i view WOMANHOOD as being something holistic and not just agebased or based on her looks, attraction and dress-code etc. I am also aware that in ancient cultures, and among the indians of North America, it was normal that she found her place among the most wise and spiritual of her tribe, which to me indicates a holistic view of things. I believe that today, is challenged to find a balance, when it comes to the spiritual, and which part woman do play, and have played here. And since we are all part of the same ONENESS, it should not be a big problem, to have LOVE be the ruling force of this world and universe, rather than the opposite.



Hi dragonfly,

These are some very clever observations you've raised here.......this is all to do with the suppression of the female energy and the unbalancing effect this has on our culture and the 3rd dimension that we live in........"The Powers That Be" have been behind this deliberate manipulation for hundreds of years

It's also very true about what you say about the female influence on ancient cultures......in Africa a lot of the tribes male leaders would never do anything of importance without first consulting the female elders of the tribe.

The modern male dominated cultures need to be turned around so a more balanced female/male culture can be allowed to develop.......that way we would see a lot less violence and a lot more love in the world

Thanks for posting dragonfly........:)

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