"Blood Curdling Scream on Canadian bus"

[simplify]

This is insane.....the hair on my neck went up as I listened to the video clip of this horrific story....sure sounds like a mind-controlled person who carried out this act. Question is why, what purpose.....the murderer & the victim apparently did not know each other. check it out at:
http://ca.yahoo.com/
:eek

[steevo]

Maybe the question is, who benefits from this incident and how do they benefit ? Obviously I'm looking into this as if it's part of the agenda. And like you say, could it be mind control ? But so MANY terribly wierd things have been going on for 10 years now and it can't be a coincidence in my opinion.

Or could alot of these stories be totally fake in order to create fear so that we accept the agenda ? :confused:

[simplify]

Maybe the question is, who benefits from this incident and how do they benefit ? Obviously I'm looking into this as if it's part of the agenda. And like you say, could it be mind control ? But so MANY terribly wierd things have been going on for 10 years now and it can't be a coincidence in my opinion.

Or could alot of these stories be totally fake in order to create fear so that we accept the agenda ? :confused:

Steevo.....did you watch/listen to the interview with the young man who was an eye witness???? It looks and sounds like the "real thing". There were other passengers also as eyewitnesses.

Is there any safe place left....yikes........ think I'll go find myself a cave:D

[steevo]

Steevo.....did you watch/listen to the interview with the young man who was an eye witness???? It looks and sounds like the "real thing". There were other passengers also as eyewitnesses.

Is there any safe place left....yikes........ think I'll go find myself a cave:D

Yes I listened and watched. I admit that it could be genuine...but it might not be. We have to be open minded on this, especially when the mainstream media are the ones who are selling us these stories. Yeah it said there were possibily 37 witnesses but who are they ? I'm just saying let's keep an open mind. I could have replied to your post and said "my god, what shall we do ? Maybe we the need to ban all knives and have everyone searched before they get on the bus".

EDIT : And like you already said, there may be more to the story than meets the eye (eg. mind control).

[Anders Lindman]

Totally grim! Like something from a B horror movie. Was it a staged event? The top news story on CNN is about this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/31/canada.bus/index.html

And wouldn't it be difficult to cut the head off a person using only a knife? Wouldn't the murderer have had to carve on the victim's neck for a very long time? :shudder:

[americana]

Totally grim! Like something from a B horror movie. Was it a staged event? The top news story on CNN is about this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/31/canada.bus/index.html

And wouldn't it be difficult to cut the head off a person using only a knife? Wouldn't the murderer have had to carve on the victim's neck for a very long time? :shudder:


I believe the words from the tape (interview with the passenger who was sitting in the seat in front of the killer and victim) were "survivalist rambo knife" - - with a jagged edge, I suppose . .. . but interesting choice of words!

(OT here, but Simplify, what an adorable doggie! Yorkie? :D )

[peachped]

It could be that this was an attack by a madman who lost the plot, sadly for the victim and passengers.. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy behind it.

[majicdragon]

Doing someone else's will while oblivious. On drugs and susceptible.

Go Canada!

[Anders Lindman]

I believe the words from the tape (interview with the passenger who was sitting in the seat in front of the killer and victim) were "survivalist rambo knife" - - with a jagged edge, I suppose . .. . but interesting choice of words!

(OT here, but Simplify, what an adorable doggie! Yorkie? :D )

Jagged edge to saw through the vertebra bones. Macabre. Wouldn't it still have been difficult to cut off the head with a Rambo knife? I guess a chainsaw would have been too cumbersome to carry.

[americana]

Go Canada!

Times have changed/ Our kids are getting worse . . . . BLAME CANADA!


Garnet (what a name for a guy) who gave the interview described the attacker as "like a robot".

If you put this together with the other story here about the guy who calmly was kicking his baby's head at the side of the road (there's a thread about it someplace here) , I tell you . . . .pretty darn scary.

[steevo]

I believe the words from the tape (interview with the passenger who was sitting in the seat in front of the killer and victim) were "survivalist rambo knife" - - with a jagged edge, I suppose . .. . but interesting choice of words!




Yes very choice :cool:

[peachped]

Times have changed/ Our kids are getting worse . . . . BLAME CANADA!


Garnet (what a name for a guy) who gave the interview described the attacker as "like a robot".

If you put this together with the other story here about the guy who calmly was kicking his baby's head at the side of the road (there's a thread about it someplace here) , I tell you . . . .pretty darn scary.

Garnet also said that...

"He didn't do anything to provoke the guy. They guy just took a knife out
and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off," said
Garnet Caton, 36, a passenger.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/290bcd83a2df23cd

[armchair philosopher]

This probably defeats the object of this forum a little, but is it not possible that this guy was just badly insane?

I'm not sure whether I believe in Government mind control or not yet, but I'd be sure that for every 1 case of that, there would be 99 who are just nuts and need help, plain and simple.

[steevo]

This probably defeats the object of this forum a little, but is it not possible that this guy was just badly insane?

I'm not sure whether I believe in Government mind control or not yet, but I'd be sure that for every 1 case of that, there would be 99 who are just nuts and need help, plain and simple.

Yes it's possible.

[Anders Lindman]

This probably defeats the object of this forum a little, but is it not possible that this guy was just badly insane?

I'm not sure whether I believe in Government mind control or not yet, but I'd be sure that for every 1 case of that, there would be 99 who are just nuts and need help, plain and simple.

Alex Jones said that the calm expression of the murderer indicates mind control. And he also described how much U.S. government mind control programming has been going on in Canada! :eek:

[armchair philosopher]

Alex Jones said that the calm expression of the murderer indicates mind control. And he also described how much U.S. government mind control programming has been going on in Canada! :eek:

Bear in mind I'm a newbie here... who is Alex Jones?

I think the calm expression could easily be plain mental disorder of some type, but I'd be interested to hear more about the mind control aspect of it.

[Anders Lindman]

Bear in mind I'm a newbie here... who is Alex Jones?

I think the calm expression could easily be plain mental disorder of some type, but I'd be interested to hear more about the mind control aspect of it.

Oh! Hi armchair philosopher. Alex Jones said this on his radio show. More info about Alex Jones here:

http://www.infowars.com/

Alex Jones seems to know a LOT about mind control programming. I myself don't know much about it but Alex is a serious researcher.

[papiowhisperer]

Bear in mind I'm a newbie here... who is Alex Jones?

I think the calm expression could easily be plain mental disorder of some type, but I'd be interested to hear more about the mind control aspect of it.
Hi AP. You can learn much from Alex Jones' radio show and websites.

Here's a great piece on MK Ultra the CIA's formerly secret mind control program.

MK Ultra, The Bush's and World-Wide Deception: Prophecy Unfolding as The World is Enslaved (http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/jewell.htm)

[real6]

Heres the first video!!!

LiveLeak.com - Man stabbed and beheaded on Greyhound bus: Chilling witness account

[magnus]

it's probably fake....but on the other hand....in Oslo Norway a person vent crazy with a big military knife and killed one person on the subway....he was from Africa..don't remember where...he had trauma because of the massacre of people in his country....that was his excuse....instead of jail...he got treatment her in Norway for one year and now he is free walking around.....

Is GREYHOUND compani Illuminati ????????

[peachped]

Heres the first video!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c2e_1217531771

Fkin ell!

[steevo]

Heres the first video!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c2e_1217531771

Well I have just watched it. A fellar in the video turned up near the end and asked the one who was being interviewed if he was in the forces (I think, not sure cos the sound was poor) and he replied (RATHER NERVOUSLY in my opinion) that he had been in the forces for 5 years but didnt want to go into detail about it. The bloke being interviewed seemed to be acting to me but obviously I could be wrong there :confused::o

[peachped]

it's probably fake....but on the other hand....in Oslo Norway a person vent crazy with a big military knife and killed one person on the subway....he was from Africa..don't remember where...he had trauma because of the massacre of people in his country....that was his excuse....instead of jail...he got treatment her in Norway for one year and now he is free walking around.....

Is GREYHOUND compani Illuminati ????????

That's a random attack / isolated incedent. wrong place wrong time etc...

;)

[americana]

Well I have just watched it. A fellar in the video turned up near the end and asked the one who was being interviewed if he was in the forces (I think, not sure cos the sound was poor) and he replied (RATHER NERVOUSLY in my opinion) that he had been in the forces for 5 years but didnt want to go into detail about it. The bloke being interviewed seemed to be acting to me but obviously I could be wrong there :confused::o

I'd like to see a transcript.

I noticed that again in describing the knife he used the words survival and rambo.

Day at the beach - - a phrase used again to describe the guy's demeanor when showing the head

Now, what got me was his description of the alleged killer "chinese or native" That's just classic. :rolleyes:

The guy being interviewed "felt really sorry" for the man who was killed? Ummm, that's an odd way of phrasing it.

[simplify]

I believe the words from the tape (interview with the passenger who was sitting in the seat in front of the killer and victim) were "survivalist rambo knife" - - with a jagged edge, I suppose . .. . but interesting choice of words!

(OT here, but Simplify, what an adorable doggie! Yorkie? :D )

Americana...yep its a toy yorkie who wants to take over the world, but I
believe he has some competition for that one...:D

[simplify]

Times have changed/ Our kids are getting worse . . . . BLAME CANADA!


Garnet (what a name for a guy) who gave the interview described the attacker as "like a robot".

If you put this together with the other story here about the guy who calmly was kicking his baby's head at the side of the road (there's a thread about it someplace here) , I tell you . . . .pretty darn scary.

americana........"the attacker acted like a robot"....that statement clued me in to the possibility of mind control. Even it the killer is mentally deranged, it would not have been carried out with such cold & methodical behavior, I feel that there would have been some moments of lucidity or some communication to the other passengers. Just my opinion....

[simplify]

I'd like to see a transcript.

I noticed that again in describing the knife he used the words survival and rambo.

Day at the beach - - a phrase used again to describe the guy's demeanor when showing the head

Now, what got me was his description of the alleged killer "chinese or native" That's just classic. :rolleyes:

The guy being interviewed "felt really sorry" for the man who was killed? Ummm, that's an odd way of phrasing it.
americana..."chinese or native"? I know sometimes I cannot tell which is which, because if they are a mixed race, you can't always tell
:confused:

[xzia]

It could be that this was an attack by a madman who lost the plot, sadly for the victim and passengers.. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy behind it.

OK well i been lurking the boards here for quite a while but found it worth to subscribe today just for this.

Im a french canadian, so i got the french version of this story in the news. It had illuminati footprint all over it.
1- they made the news very dramatic and scary, in the hopes to bring up an emotional reaction with the peeps, and imo they acheived this quite well.
2- they increased the fear factor by saying any loomy can carry weapons in buses, theres no security in the bus transport industry, you should be scared!!1 (they compared it with airport security :rolleyes: )
3- they concluded they will need to add security for buses and terminals by preventing weapons (you know, knives, prolly box cutters and scisors, the whole airport thing coming back to us) from being carried in.

Action, reaction, solution = Illuminati 100% yo

[xzia]

This probably defeats the object of this forum a little, but is it not possible that this guy was just badly insane?

I'm not sure whether I believe in Government mind control or not yet, but I'd be sure that for every 1 case of that, there would be 99 who are just nuts and need help, plain and simple.

You might want to do a research for "Duplessis Children / Orphans". They are orphans from the province of Quebec in Canada, in the 40's and 50's that were labeled as mentally deficient by the government and put in a mental institution. There they were repeatedly abused physically, emotionally and sexually... it totally broke their lives and many many died... that looks as early mind control experiences to me. The more you dig into that story, the more will find links with the CIA too...
Here is a start, your hair will stand straight on your head:
http://archives.cbc.ca/society/youth/topics/1633/
http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Articles/200604/20060414_Duplessis_Children.htm

Research and learn, you will see that stuff has been ongoing for quite a while. Today its done much more covertly, and im sure they have more sophisticated techniques, but you can bet they are still doing it.

[americana]

OK well i been lurking the boards here for quite a while but found it worth to subscribe today just for this.

Im a french canadian, so i got the french version of this story in the news. It had illuminati footprint all over it.
1- they made the news very dramatic and scary, in the hopes to bring up an emotional reaction with the peeps, and imo they acheived this quite well.
2- they increased the fear factor by saying any loomy can carry weapons in buses, theres no security in the bus transport industry, you should be scared!!1 (they compared it with airport security :rolleyes: )
3- they concluded they will need to add security for buses and terminals by preventing weapons (you know, knives, prolly box cutters and scisors, the whole airport thing coming back to us) from being carried in.

Action, reaction, solution = Illuminati 100% yo

MMMMM. Yes. In the past couple of months, there are several new "bus" services here in NYC. One has a stop on my street. It seems extremely popular.

It may be that bus travel has become increasingly popular because of the price of gas.

My most recent Peter Pan/ Bonanza bus trips were hardly full buses. I can't even see how the fares would - - pay the driver, pay for the fuel, incidental upkeep of bus, etc., .etc.

Here, when you purchase a bus ticket, they ask you your name. You don't have to show ID. Therefore, you can say anything as a name. I'm sure it's the same in Canada.

This incident may lead to much more control on buses, "for the safety of our passengers".

[steevo]

MMMMM. Yes. In the past couple of months, there are several new "bus" services here in NYC. One has a stop on my street. It seems extremely popular.

It may be that bus travel has become increasingly popular because of the price of gas.

My most recent Peter Pan/ Bonanza bus trips were hardly full buses. I can't even see how the fares would - - pay the driver, pay for the fuel, incidental upkeep of bus, etc., .etc.

Here, when you purchase a bus ticket, they ask you your name. You don't have to show ID. Therefore, you can say anything as a name. I'm sure it's the same in Canada.

This incident may lead to much more control on buses, "for the safety of our passengers".

Bloody ell, they ask for your name ? That's to get us used to be asked for ID IMO.
Ithink that this is possibily gonna lead to us showing ID and possibily check before getting on the bus, in the same way that the Nazi's used to hang around all the stations where people catch public transpoort.
There are many reasons why they would do this, and one reason that I can see is that if we TRY to "opt out" of society, we cannot catch buses or spend money without being arrested maybe ?

[americana]

Bloody ell, they ask for your name ? That's to get us used to be asked for ID IMO.
Ithink that this is possibily gonna lead to us showing ID and possibily check before getting on the bus, in the same way that the Nazi's used to hang around all the stations where people catch public transpoort.
There are many reasons why they would do this, and one reason that I can see is that if we TRY to "opt out" of society, we cannot catch buses or spend money without being arrested maybe ?

Oh, I just want to be clear. For the public transportation buses, you just step on and pay, either with change or with a card. You do not have to show ID.

The Greyhound or Peter Pan/ Bonanza buses are PRIVATE. You may have heard of Penn Station in NY, seen it in movies, etc. That's where you catch these private buses here in NYC. You can buy online, I believe, or through the ticket window. However, as I noted, since you don't have to show ID, you can give anything as your name.

[jahzel]

Good god. What a horrific inncident.

Definately a Mind Controlled sleeper.

[americana]

Tim McLean is the name of the young man who was killed.

Here is his MySpace page:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=108390479

[real6]

Now, what got me was his description of the alleged killer "chinese or native" That's just classic. :rolleyes:



I know im like how the fuck does a Chinese person and Native look the fucking same. He could have been Korean or Japanese or Burmese or Thai or whatever...

SHit he could have even be mexican.

[galactic_stargazer]

It is definitely one sad, bizarre, scary story.

[dangermouse]

Tim McLean is the name of the young man who was killed.

Here is his MySpace page:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=108390479

yeah interesting on his myspace
http://a626.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/96/l_6af1668796704295a3dc97576a16a6b1.jpg

[cheeb]

Updated Fri. Aug. 1 2008 9:59 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

RCMP have charged Vince Weiguang Li with second-degree murder after a 22-year-old man was stabbed and then decapitated in a vicious attack on a Greyhound bus.

The 40-year-old, from Edmonton, Alta., is due to appear at a court in Portage la Prairie, Man. on Friday morning.

[peachped]

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6174848,00.jpg

'Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall,
200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to
others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton.'

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/290bcd83a2df23cd

[soulja]

this looks to me like another MK'd guy that ran amok or was indeed programmed to do excately what he did in order to spread fear or even pave the way for a new legislation further restricting our ''freedom''

[cheeb]

The Eyewitness Details Would Tend To Suggest That.

Warning Not For The Sqeamish...

Passengers attempt rescue

Caton gathered a small group of people to go back and help the victim, said CTV correspondent Murray Oliver in Winnipeg.

"They returned to the back of the bus to find that the person who was stabbing the person in the neck had now sawed off the head of (the victim)."

The man, with the head in one hand and the knife in the other, then tried to attack the other passengers, said Oliver.

The group was able to exit the bus and slammed the door behind them.

The man then stabbed the door with his knife but was unable to break through and get off the bus. Eventually, he attempted to start up the bus to drive away but the operator had hit a switch, disabling the vehicle.

Oliver said a truck driver then arrived at the scene and handed out wrenches and crowbars to several men. The small group gathered around the door to the bus and prevented the man from exiting until police arrived.

Cody Olmstead, a Nova Scotia man who was on the bus, said that the killer taunted the men who were blocking the door from the outside.

"He cut (the victim's) head off and then walked up to the door holding it and just looked at them crazy-like and then dropped the head and walked back to the body and started cutting it some more," Olmstead told CTV News from outside a hotel in Brandon, Man., where he and other passengers were taken.

The man was left alone with the body and witnesses say that he performed further indignities to the victim.

"We have word from people on the scene . . . that when the killer was alone with the body . . . that there may have been some small acts of cannibalism on the body," Oliver said.

Oliver said that police have not confirmed that, but have not denied it either.

Criminal profiler Pat Brown told CTV Newsnet that the killing may have been planned in advance, even if the choice of victim was completely random.

"This may have been planned -- to have this moment of rage," she said.

A number of witnesses referred to the suspect's actions as "robot-like." Brown said that fits the profile of some high-profile psychopaths who go into a "trance" while performing ghastly acts, ignoring the world around them.

The suspect

RCMP eventually arrested the man after a standoff lasting several hours, said Oliver.

Witnesses said the suspect was tall, large and wearing sunglasses, even though it was dark.

David Eastwick, a passenger on the bus, told CTV News that he noticed that there seemed to be something "wrong" with the suspect even before the attack.

"He look kind of suspicious when I saw him," a clearly-tired Eastwick said Thursday. "Most people if you say 'Hi' to them they say 'Hi' back to you but this one just looked back and (stared.)"

"I knew something was wrong (with) his mind."

G

[americana]

Zorro was the movie playing on the bus when the attack occurred.

Have any of you guys seen this movie or have any insight into it?

If you look on the Victim's MySpace page, http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=108390479 we see that he had a tattoo on his back of the character Jokawild, who I believe is from the "Homies".

Does anyone know about this character. Still, the fact that it's a joker is interesting.

Other tattoos - Marvin the Martian, a skull

Interests include reptiles. Owns an iguana.

RIP.

[seeker1111]

Vancouver's '24' paper had the following quotes from a witness:



"He calmly walks up to the front of the bus with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us"
"There was no rage in him...It was just like he was a robot or something."


Possible mind control?

[size_of_light]

Victim's Myspace page flags the following video to check out:

Insane Clown Posse - Hall Of Illusions [uncensored] - YouTube

Lyrics include:

"we forgot Mr.Bigot ,ok dig it, we cant show you an illusion cause were all packed, BUT ill still cut your neck out hows that?"

Pause video at 2:02

[soulja]

Vancouver's '24' paper had the following quotes from a witness:



Possible mind control?

call me crazy but i think the clues confirming that are all over the place.

[americana]

Victim's Myspace page flags the following video to check out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg186kLAG0g

Lyrics include:

"we forgot Mr.Bigot ,ok dig it, we cant show you an illusion cause were all packed, BUT ill still cut your neck out hows that?"

Pause video at 2:02

Thanks for pointing that out. I've got the chills.


As for mind control, there's another thread on here about the RAMBO microchip.

Anyone know anything about that chip (in particular?).

As I have noted in a couple of posts in this and/or the other thread on the Greyhound Canada bus incident, Garnet, the dude who sat in front of the alleged perp and victim, described the knife as a rambo knife.

I've even seen the terminology picked up on another message board. Viral internet crap.

Anyhoo, if Garnet was/ is military (did anyone else hear this on the tape of his interview? Steevo noted it), why wouldn't he be more specific as to the type of knife. How 'bout hunting knife, for starters . . .

[steevo]

Updated Fri. Aug. 1 2008 9:59 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

RCMP have charged Vince Weiguang Li with second-degree murder after a 22-year-old man was stabbed and then decapitated in a vicious attack on a Greyhound bus.

The 40-year-old, from Edmonton, Alta., is due to appear at a court in Portage la Prairie, Man. on Friday morning.

Just imagine if this Chinese fellar (I assume he is Chinese but dont know for sure) had been a muslim. This would have been called a terrorist attack.
According to alot of people including Icke, China is on their list to start a war with and this fits in very well. the attack could be seen as a POSSIBLE "terrorst" attack (even though the word "terrorist" would not be the correct word ;)).

I want to see more proof that this event actually occurred. I'm not saying it didnt occur but it would be very stupid to accept on face value what the MAINSTREAM MEDIA tell us.

[size_of_light]

I just recalled this from a few months ago, here in Australia.

This happened at my old train stop.

Very similar.

A speed-using schizophrenic pulled a "Rambo style" knife from his pants and fatally stabbed another train passenger three times in an unprovoked attack, a Melbourne court has heard

...

Scott Torrance said he saw the Acuna get off the train at Box Hill with a bloodstained knife in his hand.

"He was cool as ice, calm as like nothing even happened," he said.

http://news.smh.com.au/national/fatal-train-stabbing-unprovoked-court-20080429-29br.html

[simplify]

I know im like how the fuck does a Chinese person and Native look the fucking same. He could have been Korean or Japanese or Burmese or Thai or whatever...

SHit he could have even be mexican.

OK ...I commented before on the above comment of chinese or native. You dont know this area where this event happened.....there is white, asian (a few) or natives, so the young man who was interviewed was trying to explain to the police what racial group the murderer belonged to, thats all, not a racist comment. Dont shoot the poor witness, remember he was in a state of shock.

[pheony]

Horrific.

[majicdragon]

OK ...I commented before on the above comment of chinese or native. You dont know this area where this event happened.....there is white, asian (a few) or natives, so the young man who was interviewed was trying to explain to the police what racial group the murderer belonged to, thats all, not a racist comment. Dont shoot the poor witness, remember he was in a state of shock.

Also, the native people here look quite oriental. If he'd have said, "I think it was either a drunk indian, or a crazy chink", that would be racist.

[Anders Lindman]

I just recalled this from a few months ago, here in Australia.

This happened at my old train stop.

Very similar.

A speed-using schizophrenic pulled a "Rambo style" knife from his pants and fatally stabbed another train passenger three times in an unprovoked attack, a Melbourne court has heard

...

Scott Torrance said he saw the Acuna get off the train at Box Hill with a bloodstained knife in his hand.

"He was cool as ice, calm as like nothing even happened," he said.

http://news.smh.com.au/national/fatal-train-stabbing-unprovoked-court-20080429-29br.html

Yes, similar. I wonder if there has been any mass murder on a bus or a train with a madman using a gun yet. A lot of school massacres, but not yet any bus or train massacre as far as I know. The evil elite could very easily pull off such stunt. :eek:

[peachped]

RCMP announced Friday morning that they have charged Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton with second-degree murder.

Li appeared for a hearing Friday at the Manitoba provincial court in Portage la Prairie around 10 a.m. CT without a lawyer and refused to speak to anyone.

He shuffled into the courthouse under the weight of heavy leg shackles, with his eyes focused on the floor. His right hand was heavily bandaged and there was visible bruising on his face.

The judge asked him twice whether he had a lawyer, but the accused just stared at the ground. When the judge asked whether Li was exercising his right to remain silent, he nodded his head.

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/08/01/li-behead220-cp-5259888.jpg


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/08/01/stabbing-victim.html

[size_of_light]

Yes, similar. I wonder if there has been any mass murder on a bus or a train with a madman using a gun yet. A lot of school massacres, but not yet any bus or train massacre as far as I know. The evil elite could very easily pull off such stunt. :eek:

Anders, I read your comments earlier on this.

You're probably right -- these are the initial set pieces.

One or two more for each Western country and 'something must be done!'

[size_of_light]

A man who randomly killed a fellow train passenger was sick for days after watching footage of the murder in court, his lawyer said today.

Carolyn Burnside, for Cory Acuna, said before watching the graphic security footage taken on the train the 25-year-old had no memory of stabbing Darren Jones.

She said Acuna had "regurgitated for a couple of days" and felt nauseous after seeing himself stab Mr Jones, 28, three times on a Belgrave-bound train in February 2006.

"He could not comprehend he had performed the atrocity that had been depicted on the taped," Ms Burnside told the Supreme Court.

Justice Paul Coghlan said he could not think of a more "pointless death".

He said the only explanation for the killing was Acuna's long-term drug abuse.
.....

Justice Coghlan said in sentencing he would need to consider to what extent Acuna's drug-taking may have contributed to him suffering psychosis and what danger he posed to the community.

He said any tolerance shown towards the use of cannabis by the community had now become "absurd".

Tolerance. Had. Now. Become. Absurd.

[Anders Lindman]

Anders, I read your comments earlier on this.

You're probably right -- these are the initial set pieces.

One or two more for each Western country and 'something must be done!'

Yes, or was it an anti-China false flag operation? The murderer's name is Vince Weiguang Li. Sounds like a Chinese name. :confused:

[steevo]

He said any tolerance shown towards the use of cannabis by the community had now become "absurd".

Tolerance. Had. Now. Become. Absurd.

That must be one tactic that they use to implant thoughts into our minds :eek:

[size_of_light]

Yes, or was it an anti-China false flag operation? The murderer's name is Vince Weiguang Li. Sounds like a Chinese name. :confused:

They're running out of time to humiliate China one more time before the Olympics, so that's another possibility.

Like you said, there's many layers to these things.

If this wasn't a lone nutter, but a psy-op, it would probably be multi-faceted.

[size_of_light]

That must be one tactic that they use to implant thoughts into our minds :eek:

Yeah. Essentially the judge is exploiting the murder to instruct the community on the new paradigm of what's tolerable.

Fucker.

[simplify]

Yeah. Essentially the judge is exploiting the murder to instruct the community on the new paradigm of what's tolerable.

Fucker.

The more acts like these that they are doing, the more obvious they become to the masses who are still asleep.....now the agenda is becoming clearer, day by day. Actually, I am sensing that it is picking up speed recently, something happening every day.....my head is reeling........where the hell is my cave???

[steevo]

The more acts like these that they are doing, the more obvious they become to the masses who are still asleep.....now the agenda is becoming clearer, day by day. Actually, I am sensing that it is picking up speed recently, something happening every day.....my head is reeling........where the hell is my cave???

And the main witness to this incident (if it did happen) just happens to have been (or is) in the military for 5 years but never went to Afghanistan (if I heard it right in that video). I wonder what job he is doing presently :cool:

[sabre]

With the mention of the Insane Clown Posse at the beginning of this thread, did anyone point out the victim " Friends described McLean as a quiet, easy-going carnival worker who was heading home to Winnipeg after a job in Edmonton."....?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-vince-weiguang-li-080801-ht,0,2765341.story

Also..." Some passengers also described McLean's attacker as a big man who weighed at least 200 pounds.
The man who appeared in court Friday wearing a grey T-shirt and prisoner's vest appeared to be about five-foot-eight or nine with a stocky build."
(From the same article.)

[peachped]

With the mention of the Insane Clown Posse at the beginning of this thread, did anyone point out the victim " Friends described McLean as a quiet, easy-going carnival worker who was heading home to Winnipeg after a job in Edmonton."....?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-vince-weiguang-li-080801-ht,0,2765341.story

Also..." Some passengers also described McLean's attacker as a big man who weighed at least 200 pounds.
The man who appeared in court Friday wearing a grey T-shirt and prisoner's vest appeared to be about five-foot-eight or nine with a stocky build."
(From the same article.)

The attacker was also described as being "bald".http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/290bcd83a2df23cd

Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall,
200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to
others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton.

[mcmenek1]

Hi,

"The Powers That Be" are using negative events like this to capture the publics attention so they can be subconsciously programmed with the vibration frequencies of the words and numbers involved in these negative stories...... they are trying to lower our vibration frequency to limit our conscious awareness in the 3rd dimension of duality..... this prevents us from seeing behind the false reality they have created for us.....see this post:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=443745&postcount=125

Love
&
Peace

[size_of_light]

Hi,

"The Powers That Be" are using negative events like this to capture the publics attention so they can be subconsciously programmed with the vibration frequencies of the words and numbers involved in these negative stories...... they are trying to lower our vibration frequency to limit our conscious awareness in the 3rd dimension of duality..... this prevents us from seeing behind the false reality they have created for us.....see this post:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=443745&postcount=125

Love
&
Peace

Bus Beheadings,Insane Clown Posse and Ratchet News

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There's something profoundly disturbing about middle-aged men in clown makeup presenting deranged obscenity-laden news bulletins to disaffected kids.

For possible links between ICP and the Canadian bus beheading, check out the various threads in 'Todays News".

Here's a link to the ICP website. Check out Ratchet News. Gathering of the Juggalos, or whatever.

Subliminal triggers galore? Er....'enjoy'.

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I've started a new thread in Symbolism for discussion/dissection of the 'Ratchet News' broadcasts, if anyone is interested.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...350#post444350

[sabre]

The attacker was also described as being "bald".http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/290bcd83a2df23cd

Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall,
200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to
others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton.

Yeah I read that.....
But how do you explain it?
The passengers were lying? If so....why?
Were they confused and scared enough to mistake a 6 foot tall, 200 pound bald man with sunglasses with the suspect?
A big man teleported in, killed the guy and teleported back out?
An " Agent" scenario like the Matrix? Big man phased into the suspects body, killed the guy, then phased out?
Demonic possession?
Glamour spell?
I am stumped.

[peachped]

Yeah I read that.....
But how do you explain it?
The passengers were lying? If so....why?
Were they confused and scared enough to mistake a 6 foot tall, 200 pound bald man with sunglasses with the suspect?
A big man teleported in, killed the guy and teleported back out?
An " Agent" scenario like the Matrix? Big man phased into the suspects body, killed the guy, then phased out?
Demonic possession?
Glamour spell?
I am stumped.

I think he was sat in the seat in front. The killer clearly had short but thick black hair.

'Garnet Caton sat next to the Greyhound killer'

http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080731/wpg_canton_account_080731a/20080731/Flashpoint

Maybe the killer was posessed by Crowley...

[qasrose]

I've done a little research on this and I think the story is one big fake.

There is a user on this forum called Sonic111 he made a post about a Rambo chip being placed inside of him, on the date 6-6-2008 now I was looking at the victims myspace page and the last log in date was 4/06/2008 now this Sonic111 as been posting on different forums all saying the same thing as this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27855 and on every other forum Sonic111 has been on only has 1 post. It could be nothing I know but I do find it strange. Notice in the dates too would be 6-6-6. Could these be connected?

Also the bus has the numbers 11 and 7 on it's number

[peachped]

I've done a little research on this and I think the story is one big fake.

There is a user on this forum called Sonic111 he made a post about a Rambo chip being placed inside of him, on the date 6-6-2008 now I was looking at the victims myspace page and the last log in date was 4/06/2008 now this Sonic111 as been posting on different forums all saying the same thing as this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27855 and on every other forum Sonic111 has been on only has 1 post. It could be nothing I know but I do find it strange. Notice in the dates too would be 6-6-6. Could these be connected?

Also the bus has the numbers 11 and 7 on it's number

Strange indeed.

Have there been any other witness interviews seen other than Garnet Cato and the tall feller with the vest on?

[americana]

Good calls, both of you, Peachped and Qasrose.

There's a pretty big disparity between 5' 8" (I believe the height of Li) and well over 6 ft. Bald and having hair.

I caught the bit about the Rambo chip, too, and had posted about that. However, I didn't so my "due diligence", so didn't realize that this has been spread about the Net. Good work, Qasrose.

There's much more here than meets the eye.

Also, has anyone here noticed any small numerical disparities between how many people were INITIALLY said to be on the bus and how many were then the OFFICIAL number. Off by ONE?

[sabre]

Okay, first Canada, now this.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7539944.stm

What the heck is going on?

And before someone beats me to it, Santorini is known as the " Isle of the Vampires".....

[seeker1111]

here's an article talking some sense...

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/08/03/the-post-editorial-board-on-the-greyhound-murder-the-government-s-best-policy-response-is-to-do-nothing.aspx

[mk72]

Just in time for the release (25th July 2008) of the X-Files movie. The main plot is about cutting heads off for a transplant:eek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X-Files:_I_Want_to_Believe
Synchronicity will have it that the show was shot in Canada.:D