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frase
31-07-2008, 11:43 AM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

cacadores
31-07-2008, 11:50 AM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....My best guess?

He was wrong:).

Anders Lindman
31-07-2008, 12:10 PM
It ain't over yet. Hillary is on a comeback tour.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/1/v/1/hillary_comeback_kid.jpg

dr_strangelove
31-07-2008, 12:14 PM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

obviously the builderbergs changed their minds. she is probably gonna be the next lyndon johnson. although hopefully this go tits up for the illuminati and he doesn't get bumped after all ! ! !

phonicboom
31-07-2008, 12:31 PM
she still may, even if it come after the election (if there is one)

obama is being pushed hard, he may have been told "pull the line or we pop you and put in hillary" and they may well yet...

drhemp
31-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Who knows? Maybe they didn't bank on Obama being so popular and it was too late before they noticed in time to organise a rig of the polls?

The sad thing is any US President will be tied to certain interest groups. The Zionist lobby is very powerful, so all will be in their pockets to a point. At least Obabma did speak out about the situation in Palestine, and did say he welcomed dialogue with Iran, though he's obviously been got at, as he's since hardened his statements, but I think that is more in response to negative campaigning from McCain. All candidates have to be pro-death penalty, I heard Clinton was personally against the death penalty, but never said so publicly, as it's political suicide in the US.

Who knows, maybe they will still rig it so McCain gets in? And all the Obama stuff will be hype. I do know that if he is a force for good, the NWO will do everything they can to not let him win. Maybe he's one of them? To keep up the charade of a democracy, they would need to change the political parties at the top in the USA anyway at some point. Remember when Mr Bliar got in, a lot of people in the UK thought there was going to be change from the policies of the Tories, when we ended with more of the same and worse, mind you, Bliar is pure evil. On the other hand, Obama voted against the criminal war in Iraq, Bliar actively promoted it and secured British involvement.

I found this article about Obama, it's a bit more optimistic than the general view of Obama on this forum

http://www.countercurrents.org/hassan140308.htm

Oh well, I suppose we can all naively hope that Obama will be a force for good and the margin of his support in the USA is too high for them to rig the vote. That's the problem with being an eternal optimist! Otherwise, in 8 years time, he will just leave another bad legacy, and there will be 2 more awful candidates up and running for the presidency in 2016.

I dont' care what anyone says, and I saw Icke's presentation where he spoke of Obama being a puppet for the NWO, there is no way he could be as bad as Bu$h; I wasn't that keen on Clinton, but even he was a million times better than Bu$h; if you read some of the stuff Bu$h has done (not including the War On Terror and Iraq) in books like Bushwhacked and The Bush Haters Handbook, there are still thousands of reasons to hate Bush, he basically makes the worst decisions possible on all levels of Government.

And I have to say, Obama is certainly not as bad as this guy .....

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran - YouTube

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran - YouTube

another false flag op some time before November, that's all it might need, and we get him, and I wouldn't put anything past the buggers

thirdwave
31-07-2008, 12:33 PM
Well David is a human being, there for this is evidence that he can be wrong...

although who knows... since when can you trust the actions of these people... she may well come back...

i_am
31-07-2008, 12:35 PM
I may be wrong but I don't think he said the NEXT president.

steevo
31-07-2008, 12:42 PM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

Are you the sort of person that believes in prophets or something ? Stop trying to look for a leader and then you may sort out your OWN problems. Concentrate a little on your SELF :)

With regards to the "race" for the White House. Any of those candidates (Billary, McCain Obama) could get in because they are ALL puppets for the same agenda. It LOOKS AS IF Obama is the illuminati's choice now but it aint over until November. the Illuminati could change their mind.

Anyway it doesnt matter who gets in. Look at the bigger picture.

space lizard
31-07-2008, 12:46 PM
Hilary will be President, one day.

Obama is a pet that has been trained by some nasty people.

americana
31-07-2008, 01:00 PM
Anyway it doesnt matter who gets in. Look at the bigger picture.

I see what you're saying . . . but . . . it matters very much.

If certain scenarios happen, there could be rioting in our cities and who knows what else. Believe me, I don't want that!

I don't mean to be negative, but it's a possibility.


Recent Supreme Court vote striking down the ban on handguns in Washington DC is interesting in this sense.


Also, in general, I don't know if ppl who are not from the states realize our succession here: if something happens to the President so he is incapable of being in office, the Vice President takes the reigns of the Presidency.

steevo
31-07-2008, 01:17 PM
I see what you're saying . . . but . . . it matters very much.

If certain scenarios happen, there could be rioting in our cities and who knows what else. Believe me, I don't want that!

I don't mean to be negative, but it's a possibility.


Recent Supreme Court vote striking down the ban on handguns in Washington DC is interesting in this sense.


Also, in general, I don't know if ppl who are not from the states realize our succession here: if something happens to the President so he is incapable of being in office, the Vice President takes the reigns of the Presidency.

Do you mean if Obama gets assassinated ?
We cant stop them assassinating him if that is what their agenda is but we CAN explain to the sheeple NOW the TRUTH of how the system REALLY works and how they manipulate us into doing things (like rioting) in order to bring in Marshall Law etc

danster82
31-07-2008, 01:18 PM
Its going to be Mcain the most insane of them all.

Anders Lindman
31-07-2008, 01:36 PM
Who knows? Maybe they didn't bank on Obama being so popular and it was too late before they noticed in time to organise a rig of the polls?


Yes, they could have planned to have Hillary as president, but that other powers managed to get Obama ahead of Hillary. I would like to have Obama as the next American president rather than Hillary or McCain. The risk is that Obama is a total NWO puppet, worse than Hillary or McCain! :eek: On the other hand, Obama may be supported by better powers than the old-school Illuminati control. That's my hope.

steevo
31-07-2008, 01:43 PM
Yes, they could have planned to have Hillary as president, but that other powers managed to get Obama ahead of Hillary. I would like to have Obama as the next American president rather than Hillary or McCain. The risk is that Obama is a total NWO puppet, worse than Hillary or McCain! :eek: On the other hand, Obama may be supported by better powers than the old-school Illuminati control. That's my hope.

I hate to say this Anders but you have fallen for their left verses right opposames (as Ickey calls it) by the sounds of it. Obama, Billary, and McCain are all puppets for the same Illuminati. The GAME is what is important to the Illuminati. If we continue to believe in left verses right, then we continue to play THEIR game. They are trying to lead us into a false revolution.

Anders Lindman
31-07-2008, 01:59 PM
I hate to say this Anders but you have fallen for their left verses right opposames (as Ickey calls it) by the sounds of it. Obama, Billary, and McCain are all puppets for the same Illuminati. The GAME is what is important to the Illuminati. If we continue to believe in left verses right, then we continue to play THEIR game. They are trying to lead us into a false revolution.

Yes, I'm aware of that risk. My hope is that Obama has better powers behind him, but of course the chance of that is slim. The power elite are probably still the same gang that has ruled the world for thousands of years.

steevo
31-07-2008, 02:05 PM
Yes, I'm aware of that risk. My hope is that Obama has better powers behind him, but of course the chance of that is slim. The power elite are probably still the same gang that has ruled the world for thousands of years.

There is NO CHANCE whatsover (I have to say IN MY OPINION). Oh wake up Anders! :eek:

phaid
31-07-2008, 02:06 PM
Billary as Obama's VP would be the best possible situation for her to pull Obama's puppet strings.

Anders Lindman
31-07-2008, 02:20 PM
There is NO CHANCE whatsover (I have to say IN MY OPINION). Oh wake up Anders! :eek:

I would say slim chance. I'm not betting any money on it though. :D

steevo
31-07-2008, 02:22 PM
I would say slim chance. I'm not betting any money on it though. :D

lol :D

and justice for all
31-07-2008, 02:26 PM
Its going to be Mcain the most insane of them all.

Insane?
The guy is brain dead. A cabbage.
Have you actually heard him talk? Makes Bush look like an intellectual genius.

steevo
31-07-2008, 02:27 PM
Insane?
The guy is brain dead. A cabbage.
Have you actually heard him talk? Makes Bush look like an intellectual genius.

McCain looks tired and confused and probably wears a nappy too.

and justice for all
31-07-2008, 02:30 PM
^
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lol! ;)

tinmenace
31-07-2008, 02:33 PM
Maybe she'll be VP, and then Obama is mysteriously assassinated :rolleyes: Voila - Hellary becomes president by default. That's what the loomies did with JFK. His VP was a freemason, and when Johson became president, when JFK was assassinated, the man he chose as HIS VP, Humphrey, was also a freemason. They needed to get the agenda back on track since JFK wasn't playing their game by their rules.

steevo
31-07-2008, 02:33 PM
^
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lol! ;)

lol :D;)

tinmenace
31-07-2008, 02:36 PM
Insane?
The guy is brain dead. A cabbage.
Have you actually heard him talk? Makes Bush look like an intellectual genius.

All by design too. Makes the wicked Obama look appealing.

quetzalcoatl
31-07-2008, 02:44 PM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

No-one can be undeniably accurate all the time with predictions while it's such a negative force @ work.. Especially while 'this game' doesn't wont to be outed or easily guessed. If their true intentions/actions & agendas ever become so plain to see, they simply revert to a back up plan. All smoke n mirrors stuff.

Far form any expertise.. Mainly because I'm not a US citizen (although the filter down affect probably applies) & I dun really follow the trail.. & it all feels/seems like a giant farse of fake-ness anyway - but let me add that stranger things have happened in the past.. Outrageous 'come-backs' *cough* - poll-rigging - extreme red 'terror alert' flare-ups; that eventuated to nothing - apart from a waste of resources.. Everyone's resources! It's your emotions they play with, it's extreme psychological manipulations of Freedom or Fear.. Only if you mind. ;)

So to name a main player in the game as a most probably candidate, which is obvious to see - can only be helpful info IMO.. & you either make use of it or leave it.. Then again.. dem sound like some pretty strong words/quotes - Dun think I caught dat interview.

Over-all I've always seen either an African-American or Women president as a bit of a bad omen - simply because it's predominately 'White Male' energy that's fucked that country up thus far (built on a foundation of slave labor et cetera). So before the proverbial shit fully hits ze fan; the draconian 'pale Trojan horse' hidden hands make haste @ setting up 'neo-image' patsies to bare the brunt of the blame.

I see through the shite tho'.. I still love America! - the general/common populace that is. Tis a pitty government always gets in. :(

Rise-up 'pro anarchist'! :eek: jus waiting for AJ to yell CHAAAARGE!!! :D

and justice for all
31-07-2008, 02:48 PM
All by design too. Makes the wicked Obama look appealing.


That maybe... but also the more idiotic a candidate is... the easier is to control.
I don’t buy the hypothesis that the elites micro-manage everything tactically, I believe is far more simple than that. If it’d be a roulette table, they’d just place bets on all the numbers, they might have a favorite one but in the end they don’t only own the table, they own the casino.

quetzalcoatl
31-07-2008, 03:04 PM
That maybe... but also the more idiotic a candidate is... the easier is to control.
I don’t buy the hypothesis that the elites micro-manage everything tactically, I believe is far more simple than that. If it’d be a roulette table, they’d just place bets on all the numbers, they might have a favorite one but in the end they don’t only own the table, they own the casino.

I hear dat!

There are certain things that 'the house' cannot win without your permission tho'.. like your Soul, your emotions & try they might - & in a subtle sense they do - your freedom of thought & individuality.

Anders Lindman
31-07-2008, 03:09 PM
David Icke said that they sometimes make one side unelectable with candidates that have no chances of being elected and in that way they can control the outcome of the election.

On the other hand, Rush Limbaugh can single-handedly determine the outcome of the U.S. 2008 election. :eek::D

steppewar
31-07-2008, 03:27 PM
I think the above will happen before inaugaration day of Jan 15 2009 and Hilary will become President. Either that or he will retire by then because of 'health reasons'.

McCain is a crippled old fart who has no chance of winning.

There is also no way the NWO would allow a black man like Obama to be the symbolic head of the USA.

graflok
31-07-2008, 03:43 PM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

What interview was this? Where can we find it?

planetsadhana
31-07-2008, 05:14 PM
they all work for the same coperation , its not allways going to be black and white as it were.

TpTb will have looked at every possible out come and worked out a plan no matter who gets in to further their agenda.

My guess was that Hilary was the obvious choice , but I think they possibly see her as unsuitable.

She helps pave the the way for good guy obhama to come in the peoples champion who helps to pacify the nation for a short while.

I think neither of them will be at the helm when the USA attack Iran

cacadores
31-07-2008, 06:04 PM
Are you the sort of person that believes in prophets or something ? Stop trying to look for a leader and then you may sort out your OWN problems. Concentrate a little on your SELF :).
Advice based on false assumptions is always particularly irritating (an observer writes:)).

steevo
31-07-2008, 06:28 PM
Advice based on false assumptions is always particularly irritating (an observer writes:)).

I'm not assuming anything. Cac, if YOU are getting "particularly irritated", then maybe you should have a lie down and cool off a bit ? :)

romas
31-07-2008, 07:22 PM
I think the above will happen before inaugaration day of Jan 15 2009 and Hilary will become President. Either that or he will retire by then because of 'health reasons'.

McCain is a crippled old fart who has no chance of winning.

There is also no way the NWO would allow a black man like Obama to be the symbolic head of the USA.


They don't really care about skin color, it's a game for idiots to participate in and wage wars etc.

Mccain is a crippled idiot, but hey, being idiot didn't stop americans from electing Bush so....

romas
31-07-2008, 07:29 PM
Maybe she'll be VP, and then Obama is mysteriously assassinated :rolleyes: Voila - Hellary becomes president by default. That's what the loomies did with JFK. His VP was a freemason, and when Johson became president, when JFK was assassinated, the man he chose as HIS VP, Humphrey, was also a freemason. They needed to get the agenda back on track since JFK wasn't playing their game by their rules.





Yep, she could rule as VP just like Cheney does now anyway, or Putin as PM, same shit, different title.

darketernal
31-07-2008, 11:02 PM
Maybe she'll be VP, and then Obama is mysteriously assassinated :rolleyes: Voila - Hellary becomes president by default. That's what the loomies did with JFK. His VP was a freemason, and when Johson became president, when JFK was assassinated, the man he chose as HIS VP, Humphrey, was also a freemason. They needed to get the agenda back on track since JFK wasn't playing their game by their rules.






This posibility remains open still.

whiterain
01-08-2008, 12:15 AM
i think its got to the stage where tptwere are so desperate that they cant rely on their old tactics so will just be throwing curveballs left right and centre. this may help to confuse those that care but it really doesnt matter cos there all sick/puppets of the sick anyway so it doesnt matter who rolls out the agenda

amerigirl
01-08-2008, 03:53 AM
Maybe Obama "beating" Hillary was symbolic?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/Perseua_Medusa_Statue.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/Stygian_Nymphs.jpg

anoninnyc
01-08-2008, 04:02 AM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

because david icke is human and can be wrong sometimes.

onourwayto2012
01-08-2008, 04:17 AM
There is also no way the NWO would allow a black man like Obama to be the symbolic head of the USA......... For what it's worth I have read that Obama's actual African American lineage is like only 6.25% because his dad was actually 75% Arab, Muslim or whatever the correct term is. If that's the case...not very Black....... ps....will try to locate the article

abrilliantone
01-08-2008, 04:27 AM
http://rushprnews.com/Obama.jpg

Barack Obama will be the next president of the U.S. He will bring forth that "change" he speaks of in the form of The North America Union. He will have 4-years to prep us for this and it will be the prelude to the terror that shall be our next president...

http://z.about.com/d/usliberals/1/0/1/2/ObamaHillaryWinMcNamee.jpg

Hillary Clinton president in 2012

http://wwwlatest.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/hillary-clinton.jpg

stelios
01-08-2008, 04:41 AM
Give it time
Obama might get assassinated soon and then Hilary would be number one choice. The only thing that probably stopped her topping him off was the media outcry.
After the Vince Foster killing i would not bet against Hilary doing it again.
I actually had a small bet at Betfair on Hilary.

21_12_2012
01-08-2008, 01:34 PM
Give it time
Obama might get assassinated soon and then Hilary would be number one choice. The only thing that probably stopped her topping him off was the media outcry.
After the Vince Foster killing i would not bet against Hilary doing it again.

I too rekon she will win. One way or another.
Flip-flop Obama is sinking fast in popularity at the moment, since his 'tour of europe'

People are seeing him for what he is...an arrogant, dim-witted empty suit puppet, funded by
dodgy dealers. I rekon he was set-up to fall purposely, to make the people cry for Hillary
to be nominated in August at the convention. Could be wrong though.

These dodgy scumbags probably have plan A,B,C,D,E for all scenarios, it'll definately be the most
interesting and under-handed election ever in the USA.

I actually had a small bet at Betfair on Hilary.

Same here.

stelios
01-08-2008, 04:50 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Wow it looks like Obama may not even be eligable. If he wasnt born in the USA then he can be president. And if he is sporting a fake Birth Cert then it will be exposed. meaning Hilary will have to step in as the Democratic candidate at the 11th hour.
Tactically she would therefore avoid all the months of muckracking that would have normally occured and it would be an easy ride for her.

I dont want to see Hilary win because i sincerely think she is as evil and destructive as Bush or McCain. Obama being of a Muslim background would at least think twice before embarking on new waves of genocide. But i do think David Icke was correct years ago when he predicted that she will be the next president.

gorana
01-08-2008, 05:59 PM
Well let us look at TV for a second.

In 24, they tried to kill and killed black president. TV was just preparing world for what is coming :)

G.

chris
01-08-2008, 06:07 PM
There is also no way the NWO would allow a black man like Obama to be the symbolic head of the USA.........

The NWO would put in a dutch albino monkey if they thought the people would believe it and they did (Margaret Thatcher).

I hate it when people try to make specific predictions, it always makes them look completely retarded. I think Alex Jones terrorist attack in manhatten has been the only decent prediction I've seen.

steevo
01-08-2008, 06:09 PM
Well let us look at TV for a second.

In 24, they tried to kill and killed black president. TV was just preparing world for what is coming :)

G.

Where did that rumour of Obama being assasinated come from ? I have had sheeple say to me that they think Obama will be assassinated. Maybe it DID come from "24" :eek:

graflok
01-08-2008, 06:21 PM
Where did that rumour of Obama being assasinated come from ? I have had sheeple say to me that they think Obama will be assassinated. Maybe it DID come from "24" :eek:

The press has been talking about it for months.

steevo
01-08-2008, 06:33 PM
The press has been talking about it for months.

About what ? 24 ?

chris
01-08-2008, 06:35 PM
About what ? 24 ?

I think he meant "Obama being assassinated." Even my mum asked me if I thought Obama would be assassinated...Now that's a conspiracy people can buy into. It's funny how people can believe pure hype but not believe their own freaking eyes.

steevo
01-08-2008, 06:37 PM
I think he meant "Obama being assassinated." Even my mum asked me if I thought Obama would be assassinated...Now that's a conspiracy people can buy into. It's funny how people can believe pure hype but not believe their own freaking eyes.

The PRESS have been saying that Obama may be assassinated ? :confused:

chris
01-08-2008, 07:16 PM
The PRESS have been saying that Obama may be assassinated ? :confused:

No, it's not like that...It's more like the Richard and Judy types of the media are kind of putting out the rumour to sound rebellious.

There is a chance he will be assassinated still for false flag reasons but there are some really radical skinheads and KKK types out there which might try but it's really down to the NWO. If they want him alive then he'll stay alive.

adimon
08-08-2008, 05:10 PM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

Could it be...because he doesn't know what he's talking about?

Could it be?

Could it?

tinmenace
08-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Could it be...because he doesn't know what he's talking about?

Could it be?

Could it?

No :)

No

and....

No

:)

adimon
08-08-2008, 05:22 PM
So Tin...what's your explanation as to why Clinton won't be president and yet another of David's predictions remain unfulfilled?

element
08-08-2008, 05:23 PM
So Tin...what's your explanation as to why Clinton won't be president and yet another of David's predictions remain unfulfilled?

No one can be 100% accurate with every prediction. :p

tinmenace
08-08-2008, 05:24 PM
So Tin...what's your explanation as to why Clinton won't be president and yet another of David's predictions remain unfulfilled?

So Adimon, is this another interrogation? :)

adimon
08-08-2008, 05:28 PM
No one can be 100% accurate with every prediction. :p

No, I suppose not. Don't worry I'm just trying to have a bit of innocent fun with the "Hilary Will Definitely Win" camp from earlier in the year. :p



So Adimon, is this another interrogation? :)



No Tin, just curious if you've rejected the Ickeian infallibity theory yet? :p

Seriously though, I don't give a shit. (about the failed predictions - I DO care about the election, obviously)

Take care.

tinmenace
08-08-2008, 05:41 PM
No Tin, just curious if you've rejected the Ickeian infallibity theory yet? :p

Seriously though, I don't give a shit. (about the failed predictions - I DO care about the election, obviously)

Take care.

Lovely, backatcha :)

zero1
08-08-2008, 06:05 PM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

Icke is wrong all the time about things. But thankfully he never touches too deeply on the important stuff and gets that wrong...

All conspiracy gurus are only for introductions to the Path towards truth, they are not the guides along the way or the deciders of which forks and turns to take in the journey. They can only point to where it all begins, that is their usefulness.

YOU have to walk it, yourself, alone. No-one can for you. So you are mistaken if you believe everything the guru tells you, for it can never be all true all of the time.

devotional soul
08-08-2008, 06:20 PM
This astrological prediction site also talks about Hilary being president either this election or the next one.

http://www.revelation13.net/calendar.html


Didn't David predict that Bush would be killed before his term is over? :confused:

graflok
08-08-2008, 07:57 PM
It isn't over yet folks. Even come November.

Far from it. ;)

i_am
08-08-2008, 09:09 PM
This astrological prediction site also talks about Hilary being president either this election or the next one.

http://www.revelation13.net/calendar.html


Didn't David predict that Bush would be killed before his term is over? :confused:

Not that I am aware of.

Neither am I aware of his saying that Hilary would be elected THIS election. I believe he said Hilary would be president but did not specify when. He said over 12 months ago that this election could be the perfect time for that to happen, not that it would.

and as pointed out several times....it is not over yet!

adimon
13-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Anybody who believes Hilary Clinton WILL be POTUS is welcome to take my wager that she won't.

Stakes up to $1000.

skyver
13-08-2008, 12:43 PM
Yeah but the one of the Rothschilds said they supported Hilary & usually who they support gets in, not this time. Maybe the rothschilds said it to throw us off track, or as some one said, we could be seeing another jfk scenario, only this time think how bad this would be real bad (or good for the elite). Think why? This could brign in race riots on a grand scale, throw in a couple of fals flag terror attacks on top at a time off a bad recession & there you go...

INSTANT MARSHALL LAW AND MORE...!

stelios
13-08-2008, 01:56 PM
There are still several months until the election, who knows what is being planned. Hilary, Obama, McBush, they are all birds of a feather.
I still think Obama will either be assasinated or hit by a huge scandal that will force him to Gary Hart on us.

skyver
13-08-2008, 02:26 PM
There are still several months until the election, who knows what is being planned. Hilary, Obama, McBush, they are all birds of a feather.
I still think Obama will either be assasinated or hit by a huge scandal that will force him to Gary Hart on us.

But think about it. If Obama gets taken out it would be the match to set everything alight.

danielg
13-08-2008, 02:40 PM
Where is the evidence, other than paranoid right-wing radio shows, to show that Hillary is being promoted to get into office? All the major media are against her, both in the US, and especially in the UK. They promoted Obama specifically to make sure Hillary didn't get the nomination, that much is obvious; she got the highest voter turn out, but the media were still saying she should quit during the campaign. Even now, they promote the idea Obama is not just the Democratic candidate, but the President-elect, when Hillary still could win.
Given the 2 biggest states in the union are governed by admitted fascists, Schwarzenazi and '40 billion dollar hedge funds man' (British citizen/ passport holder) Mike Bloomberg, clearly, any thinking person can see that Hillary, as much of a bitch she probably is, is not a fascist, and certainly not brutal enough for what the financial powers want in terms of policy ideas; actually quite the opposite, she is promoting industrial regeneration, hence the poor came out en mass to support her, but as usual, their votes were ignored.

danielg
13-08-2008, 02:43 PM
They may assasinate Obama, hopefully they will, he's a waste of oxygen, but it would be done to have a ML King/ Kennedy effect on the people, to demoralise them, and pave the way for Bloomberg or Schwarzenegger, not Clinton. If they wanted Clinton, they would have promoted her to an easy victory with corporate media backing, something she clearly did not have.

vienna
13-08-2008, 02:46 PM
so did alot of other people

and let's not forget the presidential election hasn't begun yet - because Obama is Democrat leader now doesn't mean that can't change

damagedbrainn
13-08-2008, 04:21 PM
so did alot of other people

and let's not forget the presidential election hasn't begun yet - because Obama is Democrat leader now doesn't mean that can't change

Yeah it does. The Democratic Primary is over with. Obama is the Democratic candidate.

themime
13-08-2008, 04:26 PM
Obama is nothing more than a novelty act used to stop Hillary from getting in.

alexph777
13-08-2008, 05:07 PM
Obama is just a setup - that much is certain. And there is a long way to go before November - alot will happen. "We beLIEve in change." Yeah, right Obama! This is a tactic to pull people in who are fed up with the status quo and are demanding change.

BTW - which of the 3 canditates has the most royal genes?

But you don't really vote for anyone anyway, you just think you do, its just for public consumption.

The electronic voting system is completely rigged anyway.

You might even see a Martin Luther King type situation happen to break the American spirit. The only difference, Martian Luther King was a genuine man who stood for what he beleived was right.

Obama is a fraud.

alexph777
13-08-2008, 05:15 PM
They may assasinate Obama, hopefully they will, he's a waste of oxygen, but it would be done to have a ML King/ Kennedy effect on the people, to demoralise them, and pave the way for Bloomberg or Schwarzenegger, not Clinton. If they wanted Clinton, they would have promoted her to an easy victory with corporate media backing, something she clearly did not have.

Wow! So its not just me who thinks this then about assisination ML King effect on the people. When you get into the Illuminati mind may be it is obvious as this being one possibility or card they might play.

Thanks for the post. I've not read all the posts here.

As for Hillary who knows anything is possible.

damagedbrainn
13-08-2008, 05:20 PM
There's more involved here than just the prediction of Hillary being the next president. That mistake would be easy to let go. What people here are really getting antsy about is the fact that George Bush was supposed to be "it"....the grand pooba...the "anti-christ"....however you want to put it. The "New World Order" was supposed to come into full effect (no longer just in steps) either during his presidency or immediately following it.

That's the Big Prediction that is slowly deflating. And the closer we get to the next election, the more frantic and defensive people are going to get about it. Then a year or so after the next election, there will likely be a case of increasing disillusion, similar (but nowhere near exact) to the disappointment felt when 1999 came and went.

amethyst
13-08-2008, 07:47 PM
The PRESS have been saying that Obama may be assassinated ? :confused:

Interesting....even Hilllary alluded to it?
Hillary Clinton Assassination Comment Kennedy Obama Shocking - YouTube


Personally, I think she's waiting in the wings.....

devotional soul
13-08-2008, 07:56 PM
how 'curious' as she put it.

steevo
13-08-2008, 08:41 PM
Interesting....even Hilllary alluded to it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0QAewVrR28


Personally, I think she's waiting in the wings.....

Yeah that IS wierd. What made her SAY that ? :eek:

amethyst
13-08-2008, 08:46 PM
Yeah that IS wierd. What made her SAY that ? :eek:

I wonder.......

She was also questioned again about that comment by the now (late) Tim Russert on "Meet The Press" a few months back.

dave52
13-08-2008, 11:56 PM
John Titor said that Hilary would be president.... Just thought I'd throw that in to the mix.

nimlyn
14-08-2008, 01:21 AM
A strange thing that I’ve noticed about Obama…Some folk who've spoken out against him have had their words are mirrored around to bite them back in the butt…Such as with the Jesse Jackson comment…:eek:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Turns out that Jesse got his nuts twisted instead…:D

Hum! Not to throw any Anti C ideas out there but yup Hilary may just get the top job if a certain revelation comes to pass…:rolleyes:

jayelowell
14-08-2008, 02:40 AM
srry, i havent read the thread but imma reply to the title... she really might get in!!! they put together a petition that only requires 300 deligent+mrs.clintons signiture to put her back into the race!

21_12_2012
14-08-2008, 08:34 AM
srry, i havent read the thread but imma reply to the title... she really might get in!!! they put together a petition that only requires 300 deligent+mrs.clintons signiture to put her back into the race!

This is correct. She only needs 300 of the deligates to endorse her at the
democratic convention at the end of August, and she will become the
democratic nominee instead of Obama. She must sign agreement to this.
Apparently, the delegates are 'switching' from Obama to Clinton more and more
recently, as they find out more stuff about the 'real' Obama.
Delegates can change their mind at any time up until the convention.

There are many people campaigning on behalf of Clinton, PUMA is doing
loads of work on her behalf, and contributing millions of dollars to her
campaign debt. PUMA stands for Party Unity My Ass.

They have dug up lots of stuff on Obama recently, and are constantly working
emailing/phoning/writing to the media, super delegates, politicians etc with
their findings, and to try and persuade the party to switch their support to
Clinton.

One recent fact finding mission has been about Obama's (non)elegibility to
become president, based on his citizenship and many questions are being
raised about his background / religion / and the covering up of the 'real'
Obama.

This thread is doing some real digging at the moment:-
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23552

If all this stuff is true about him, and comes to light before the convention,
it looks like he will not be able to run for president.

Even if it comes to light after the convention, it will still damage him and
put Clinton in prime position for president (or even Mc Cain) especially if she
is picked as Vice President at the convention.

There's a long way to go 'til November, lots of twists and turns.

Barry Soetoro has definately got a 'shady past' !
Just like all politicians. He's not the squeaky clean messiah that the
media have tried to portray, and people are finding that out fast.

danielg
14-08-2008, 01:26 PM
That video of Hillary was the point I was making: the media were against her so created an issue out of her Bobby Kennedy comments. Look at the way she is talking, clearly she is incinuating or suggesting Obama will be assasinated (as the mdeia made out). She was talking about how the nomination isn't complete until after the Democratic Party Convention, and the BK assasination is relevant as BK was assasinated after claiming victory in the primaries, but before his nomination was verified by the Democratic Party Convention, so, anything can happen in that period.

Good post 2012.

kasalt
18-08-2008, 05:42 PM
There is no doubt that, as David Icke said, Hillary Clinton was the "chosen" by the elite at one time. But in December of 2007, for some reason, the elite movers and shakers changed their minds and decided to shift their support away from Clinton and over to Obama. Here's some evidence for this claim:

Dan Abrams - Is the Media Rooting Against Hillary? - YouTube
(Link)

Dan Abrams - Is the Media Piling on Hillary Clinton? - YouTube
(Link)

These are clips from January 2008. As Dan Abrams observes, the inside movers and shakers suddenly began touting Obama over Clinton. Why, I don't know. But the fact remains: The elite changed their minds, stabbed Clinton in the back, and began pumping Obama in December of 2007.

tinmenace
18-08-2008, 05:58 PM
Interesting....even Hilllary alluded to it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0QAewVrR28


Personally, I think she's waiting in the wings.....

Yeah, I mean, what does Bobby Kennedy's assassination have to do with Bill Clinton's nomination? See, I believe that it makes perfect sense to her and anyone in "the know". But to us, it seems out of context.


Fascinating! Thanks for posting.

americana
18-08-2008, 09:56 PM
They have dug up lots of stuff on Obama recently, and are constantly working
emailing/phoning/writing to the media, super delegates, politicians etc with
their findings, and to try and persuade the party to switch their support to
Clinton.

One recent fact finding mission has been about Obama's (non)elegibility to
become president, based on his citizenship and many questions are being
raised about his background / religion / and the covering up of the 'real'
Obama.

This thread is doing some real digging at the moment:-
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23552

If all this stuff is true about him, and comes to light before the convention,
it looks like he will not be able to run for president.

Even if it comes to light after the convention, it will still damage him and
put Clinton in prime position for president (or even Mc Cain) especially if she
is picked as Vice President at the convention.

There's a long way to go 'til November, lots of twists and turns.

Barry Soetoro has definately got a 'shady past' !
Just like all politicians. He's not the squeaky clean messiah that the
media have tried to portray, and people are finding that out fast.

Whoa!!! FANTASTIC post! Thanks so much for the link.

If that is indeed true (and that school document sure LOOKS authentic!), it's the END for "Barry".

I'm sure Clinton and McCain have teams of investigators on this. That would be WILD if it comes out at the convention.

(And gives new meaning to the wire-cage pens that are discussed in another thread here. Because, IF it's true, there will be some people who will not believe it . . . and . . . mayhem may well ensue.)

tinmenace
18-08-2008, 10:15 PM
Whoa!!! FANTASTIC post! Thanks so much for the link.

If that is indeed true (and that school document sure LOOKS authentic!), it's the END for "Barry".

I'm sure Clinton and McCain have teams of investigators on this. That would be WILD if it comes out at the convention.

(And gives new meaning to the wire-cage pens that are discussed in another thread here. Because, IF it's true, there will be some people who will not believe it . . . and . . . mayhem may well ensue.)

That IS interesting, and all the while we're exposing Obama, we're neglecting to expose Hillary, and there won't be enough time to do it and reach enough people before it's too late.

Interesting strategy.

tinmenace
18-08-2008, 10:21 PM
This is correct. She only needs 300 of the deligates to endorse her at the
democratic convention at the end of August, and she will become the
democratic nominee instead of Obama. She must sign agreement to this.
Apparently, the delegates are 'switching' from Obama to Clinton more and more
recently, as they find out more stuff about the 'real' Obama.
Delegates can change their mind at any time up until the convention.

There are many people campaigning on behalf of Clinton, PUMA is doing
loads of work on her behalf, and contributing millions of dollars to her
campaign debt. PUMA stands for Party Unity My Ass.

They have dug up lots of stuff on Obama recently, and are constantly working
emailing/phoning/writing to the media, super delegates, politicians etc with
their findings, and to try and persuade the party to switch their support to
Clinton.

One recent fact finding mission has been about Obama's (non)elegibility to
become president, based on his citizenship and many questions are being
raised about his background / religion / and the covering up of the 'real'
Obama.

This thread is doing some real digging at the moment:-
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23552

If all this stuff is true about him, and comes to light before the convention,
it looks like he will not be able to run for president.

Even if it comes to light after the convention, it will still damage him and
put Clinton in prime position for president (or even Mc Cain) especially if she
is picked as Vice President at the convention.

There's a long way to go 'til November, lots of twists and turns.

Barry Soetoro has definately got a 'shady past' !
Just like all politicians. He's not the squeaky clean messiah that the
media have tried to portray, and people are finding that out fast.



Right, and it's like he's a chosen one or something. His sudden rise to stardom is very suspicious, imo.

i_am
18-08-2008, 10:24 PM
The convention could be interesting to say the least

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/democrats/2559944/US-election-2008-Hillary-Clinton-to-be-on-ballot-at-Democratic-convention.html

tinmenace
18-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Talking about Hillary, take a look at this video....

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


The funniest thing is that Ellen asks her something like what the biggest misconception is about Hillary.

Hillary, in ALL seriousness, says that the biggest misconception is that she's some kind of alien from outer space :eek:

Then Ellen, also perfectly serious, says that she's spent time around Hillary and that she doesn't think she's an alien from outer space.



If I was interviewing Hillary, I would say, in response to her answer, "No, c'mon now, I'm being serious, what's the biggest misconception? What do you want people to know about you?"


Instead she shrugs it off as a perfectly logical answer and they continue with their interview. I mean this is a perfectly serious campaign and that's the BEST answer she can come up with. Really? :confused:


It's almost as though she's acknowledging that aliens ARE among us, but she's not one of them :eek:

americana
18-08-2008, 10:33 PM
That IS interesting, and all the while we're exposing Obama, we're neglecting to expose Hillary, and there won't be enough time to do it and reach enough people before it's too late.

Interesting strategy.



What else is there with Hilary? Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster . . . .been there, done that . . .

Hmmmm . . . . perhaps we need to revisit all or a few of the above?

Something else? (Well, we know Bill's had a few financial shenanigans, erm . . . )

And McCain?

tinmenace
18-08-2008, 10:37 PM
What else is there with Hilary? Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster . . . .been there, done that . . .

Hmmmm . . . . perhaps we need to revisit all or a few of the above?

Something else? (Well, we know Bill's had a few financial shenanigans, erm . . . )

And McCain?

Right! But people forget, and even when they do remember they seem so nonchalant about it. They just don't have the energy to fight anymore. It's all the chemicals that numb them.

But bottom line, imo, is that a democrat will win. So, if Obama falters, automatically Hillary will be in. McCain doesn't stand a chance, jmo.

americana
18-08-2008, 10:42 PM
Right! But people forget, and even when they do remember they seem so nonchalant about it. They just don't have the energy to fight anymore. It's all the chemicals that numb them.

But bottom line, imo, is that a democrat will win. So, if Obama falters, automatically Hillary will be in. McCain doesn't stand a chance, jmo.




Yes, I'll have to check it out, but I was looking into something else today at the library, and I ran across an old article from the NY Times regarding Vince Foster who raised some questions about Hilary's spending on DECORATING the White House . . . just a few days before he . . . "offed himself".

It's a forgotten story . . . .

tinmenace
18-08-2008, 10:53 PM
Yes, I'll have to check it out, but I was looking into something else today at the library, and I ran across an old article from the NY Times regarding Vince Foster who raised some questions about Hilary's spending on DECORATING the White House . . . just a few days before he . . . "offed himself".

It's a forgotten story . . . .

Right! Committed suicide by suposedly shooting himself with his right hand because the gun was found in his right hand, even though he was left-handed. Not at all suspicious :rolleyes:

21_12_2012
18-08-2008, 11:30 PM
That IS interesting, and all the while we're exposing Obama, we're neglecting to expose Hillary, and there won't be enough time to do it and reach enough people before it's too late.

Interesting strategy.






Yes, it is interesting strategy. Also, Clinton has played 'by the book' since
the primaries, publically showing her support for Obama, and asking all her
supporters to support Obama, and showing no malice towards Obama
whatsoever, even though the media had been biased against her for months
and she (apparently) won the popular vote, plus neither her or Obama had
enough delegates to be classed as the 'official nominee' yet Obama was
proclaming himself the winner, and travelling round Europe and stuff.

Obama has totally acted as if he is already president since the primaries,
and not a peep from Clinton, not a wrong word. Seems very odd to say the
least. You'd expect at least some protest from her about media bias, and the
way Obama has acted, plus the fact she apparently won the popular vote.

It's like she knows something is going to happen to change things around.

At the end of the day, they're just doing and saying what they're told to do
by the 'hidden hand' ....probably threatened and bribed.

tinmenace
18-08-2008, 11:40 PM
It's like she knows something is going to happen to change things around.

I agree with your entire post, but this part is really in line with what I think also. I heard her on a radio show earler this year and it wasn't so much what she was saying, but how she was saying it. She had this air of beyond-confidence. It was as though she knew something we didn't. Of course she does, but my point is that it was just so obvious and it made me wonder...

21_12_2012
19-08-2008, 12:14 AM
I agree with your entire post, but this part is really in line with what I think also. I heard her on a radio show earler this year and it wasn't so much what she was saying, but how she was saying it. She had this air of beyond-confidence. It was as though she knew something we didn't. Of course she does, but my point is that it was just so obvious and it made me wonder...






Yes, she is very confident after all that's happened.
We don't get much coverage of Obama / Clinton or Mc Cain on UK tv, but
i have been regularly checking out these forums:-
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
http://my.barackobama.com

There's been an unbelievable amount of 'underhanded tactics' going on, and
being exposed. Stuff such as delegates being paid 'donations' of thousands
of dollars from the Obama campaign in order to sway the delegates votes.
Also threats made to delegates. Almost all media channels (except perhaps
fox news) are pro-Obama, and have probably been paid off in one way or
another. It's a massive attempt to keep Obama on top, yet Clinton isn't
saying one wrong word about any of it.

Maybe she is going to be picked as his Vice President at the convention,
and then Obama exposed before November, so she 'conveniently' slips into
the nominee position. Or maybe Obama will be elected and then something
will bring him down, and she will automatically become president.

Either way, i think she will get to the Whitehouse one way or another.

She's behaving much too confidently considering the stuff that's been
'thrown at her'

i_am
19-08-2008, 12:16 AM
Yes, I'll have to check it out, but I was looking into something else today at the library, and I ran across an old article from the NY Times regarding Vince Foster who raised some questions about Hilary's spending on DECORATING the White House . . . just a few days before he . . . "offed himself".

It's a forgotten story . . . .

Have you read the Clinton Chronicles?

tinmenace
19-08-2008, 01:04 AM
Yes, she is very confident after all that's happened.
We don't get much coverage of Obama / Clinton or Mc Cain on UK tv, but
i have been regularly checking out these forums:-
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
http://my.barackobama.com

There's been an unbelievable amount of 'underhanded tactics' going on, and
being exposed. Stuff such as delegates being paid 'donations' of thousands
of dollars from the Obama campaign in order to sway the delegates votes.
Also threats made to delegates. Almost all media channels (except perhaps
fox news) are pro-Obama, and have probably been paid off in one way or
another. It's a massive attempt to keep Obama on top, yet Clinton isn't
saying one wrong word about any of it.

Maybe she is going to be picked as his Vice President at the convention,
and then Obama exposed before November, so she 'conveniently' slips into
the nominee position. Or maybe Obama will be elected and then something
will bring him down, and she will automatically become president.

Either way, i think she will get to the Whitehouse one way or another.

She's behaving much too confidently considering the stuff that's been
'thrown at her'

Agreed, and thanks for those links. I'm gonna check it out.

americana
19-08-2008, 12:27 PM
Have you read the Clinton Chronicles?

No, does it discuss the Foster bit? I am more "about" novels than non-fiction, although my father is a big reader of history books, many about the Clintons or the Kennedys. I'll have to ask him if he's read it!

amethyst
20-08-2008, 03:21 AM
The news was saying today that Hillary Clinton might be a surprise Vice Presidential candidate at the Democratic convention.

i_am
20-08-2008, 03:33 AM
No, does it discuss the Foster bit? I am more "about" novels than non-fiction, although my father is a big reader of history books, many about the Clintons or the Kennedys. I'll have to ask him if he's read it!

Make of it what you will :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Chronicles

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2917/clinton.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2161982530392725695

i_am
20-08-2008, 03:33 AM
The news was saying today that Hillary Clinton might be a surprise Vice Presidential candidate at the Democratic convention.

Wow!! What a surprise :rolleyes:

amethyst
20-08-2008, 03:50 AM
Wow!! What a surprise :rolleyes:

Not a surprise to us tho ;)

adimon
21-08-2008, 12:28 PM
Where is the evidence, other than paranoid right-wing radio shows, to show that Hillary is being promoted to get into office? All the major media are against her, both in the US, and especially in the UK. They promoted Obama specifically to make sure Hillary didn't get the nomination, that much is obvious; she got the highest voter turn out, but the media were still saying she should quit during the campaign. Even now, they promote the idea Obama is not just the Democratic candidate, but the President-elect, when Hillary still could win.
Given the 2 biggest states in the union are governed by admitted fascists, Schwarzenazi and '40 billion dollar hedge funds man' (British citizen/ passport holder) Mike Bloomberg, clearly, any thinking person can see that Hillary, as much of a bitch she probably is, is not a fascist, and certainly not brutal enough for what the financial powers want in terms of policy ideas; actually quite the opposite, she is promoting industrial regeneration, hence the poor came out en mass to support her, but as usual, their votes were ignored.

Interesting that you say that.

Personally, I can't think of more twisted and unethical people than the Clintons, and my initial stance on the election was "Anybody but Hilary."

Of course now its "Anybody but Obama or Hilary" :D :p

They're both psychopaths.

americana
21-08-2008, 01:19 PM
Interesting that you say that.

Personally, I can't think of more twisted and unethical people than the Clintons, and my initial stance on the election was "Anybody but Hilary."

Of course now its "Anybody but Obama or Hilary" :D :p

They're both psychopaths.

Mc Cain?

I do think that Cindy Mc Cain has a good soul, behind all the drugs and whatever else is going on there . . . .

tinmenace
21-08-2008, 05:08 PM
Ether way, they are only 'frontmen'. :)

Precisely!

phonicboom
26-08-2008, 04:17 AM
they're out to remove obama http://www.obamacrimes.com/ now he's not even american.

lordzoma
26-08-2008, 04:24 AM
Wow that's such bullshit.

Could you imagine if he became president, and then faced impeachment on charges that he falsified his citizenship!?

Imagine it got overturned and there was some random rule like if you get elected as a high ranking politican then you can run for president.

That would pave the way for people like The Terminator to become president.

I seriously doubt much is going to come from this...

But what if it becomes a huge deal?!

Something tells me that the person running the website isn't exactly on the inside, since he's directly asking for donations to help run the case.

But then again, the GOP and the DCCC ask me for money all the time. I get at least a letter a week from both of them.

Talk about a longshot!

phonicboom
26-08-2008, 04:48 AM
i took the link from the DI news page. Make of it what you will :)

phonicboom
26-08-2008, 04:01 PM
more from the DI news page

"'A Lafayette Hill attorney filed a lawsuit in federal court Thursday challenging Sen. Barack Obama's claim to United States citizenship. The action seeks to remove the Democratic candidate from the November ballot. To be eligible to serve as U.S. president, a person must be born in this country.'"

http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20089295&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=33380&rfi=6 (sorry link seems to be dead at the mo.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/August%202008%202/obama_baby.jpg

seercirra
26-08-2008, 04:35 PM
I heard David saying in an interview, that "without a doubt" Hilary Clinton would be next US president...that it had"already been decided"
Can anyone explain any theories why this doesn't seem to be what is actually occuring?....

before we all jump in to save david. i do not recall him saying this.
perhaps you'd like to remind us where he does?

stelios
26-08-2008, 05:01 PM
Actually there is alot of evidence that Obama was not born in the uSA. Which means he is not eligable. But there is also some talk that McInsane was not born in the US either. He was born in Central America - Costa Rica i think?

Assuming that Hillary is still waiting in the wings for the call to come through i wouldnt rule her out just yet.

Now that Obama has fallen to 47% in the polls.

elirien
26-08-2008, 05:29 PM
Yeah, it's such a shame how people get drawn into the bullsh*t soap operas... jeez... who really gives a crap about who 'gets in'!? :rolleyes:

I certainly don't. :-/

Definitely. This feels like debating who's gonna play in a new kubrick film. Cruise or Smith. I mean who cares? The agenda will be played by someone and Mr. Icke is human so he can make mistakes. I think he made one with Sitchin but I didn't have the time to study it.

adimon
29-08-2008, 01:49 AM
Come on guys...all the speculation in the world doesn't change the fact that only McCain can win!

Hilary has been out for a couple of months, and you lot won't let it go.

There is no way back for her, and Obama is simply unelectable.

I'm surprised at you all. :o

whitelightrabbit
29-08-2008, 03:20 AM
WHY do public figures make predictions like this? if he really did say 'without a doubt' why would he say that? instead of 'i think' or 'chances are', leave yourself some leway!

adimon
03-10-2008, 02:18 PM
"Chances are" that JSM 3 will win.

Palin v Biden made sure of that.

Not that it was otherwise at any point since Super Duper Tues.

deafbred
03-10-2008, 02:20 PM
nah "mccain is their man" I did have some scary dreams though about catering an event where Hillary was going to be at. I met her in my dream to, she had some men around her to protect her. She smiled at me and I used my good looks and my fake charm and complimented her on how great she looked , just so her secret service guys didn't detain me. She said "ah, I like this one" with a clown smile on her face.

eyepod
03-10-2008, 02:49 PM
Well it's not over until the fat lady sings!

There's nothing to stop Obama being knocked off, real or otherwise - wouldn't exactly be the first time for the USA.

I was reading something the other day that was making the case that it would probably be women that swing the election one way or another...

Apparently most married women are McCain supporters and suddenly out of nowhere we have the airhead "feminist", religous-freak, who believes the world is 6000 years old as his running partner who loves to play the "mum" card.

Most single women are Obama supporters but apparently Obama has a few potential skeletons in his cupboard which are not being reported by the MSM. His accuser has already held press conferences and offered to take polygraph tests, maybe he's just a nut but who knows with this election circus?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56626

ELECTION 2008
Sleaze charge: 'I took drugs, had homo sex with Obama'
Minnesota man takes his case to court, YouTube, $100,000 polygraph challenge
Posted: February 17, 2008
4:45 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Editor's note: The accompanying YouTube video contains sexual language that some will consider offensive. The article itself contains material that is inappropriate for children.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/headshots/larrysinclair.jpg
Larry Sinclair accuses Barack Obama (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56626#) of homosexual acts and drug use in video posted on YouTube

WASHINGTON – The electrifying presidential campaign of Barack Obama faces a new challenge – a Minnesota man who claims he took cocaine in 1999 with the then-Illinois legislator and participated in homosexual acts with him.
When his story was ignored by the news media, Larry Sinclair made his case last month in a YouTube video, which has now been viewed more than a quarter-million times. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY&eurl=http:%2F%2Fwww.anorak.co.uk%2Fpoliticians%2F1 79725.html) And when it was still ignored by the media, Sinclair filed a suit in Minnesota District Court, alleging threats and intimidation by Obama's staff.
Sinclair, who says he is willing to submit to a polygraph test to validate his claims, will now get his chance – thanks to a website offering $10,000 for the right to record it and $100,000 to Sinclair if he passes. (http://www.whitehouse.com/)
"My motivation for making this public is my desire for a presidential candidate to be honest," Sinclair told WND by telephone. "I didn't want the sex thing to come out. But I think it is important for the candidate to be honest about his drug use as late as 1999."

Sinclair, who lives in Duluth and describes himself as "gay," claims he "personally engaged in sexual activity and personally used illegal drugs in November 1999" with the man who is now the leading Democratic (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56626#) presidential candidate. He claims the activity took place in the back of Sinclair's limousine and occurred again, later, in his hotel. Sinclair also says he personally no longer uses drugs.
In his lawsuit, filed last week, he charges his civil rights have been violated by Obama and the Democratic Party. Named as defendants in the case are the presidential candidate, David Axelrod of AKP Message and Media in Chicago (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56626#) and the Democratic National Committee.
Sinclair charges Obama smoked crack cocaine in the limo while Sinclair snorted powdered cocaine provided by the legislator. He says the two met in an upscale Chicago lounge before leaving in Sinclair's limousine where the drug use and sex took place for the first time.
Sinclair says he is a registered Democrat but has never voted for any candidate. He is 46 and claims to be physically disabled.
He says he was not physically impaired in 1999 when the alleged incidents with Obama took place.
Calls placed to the Obama campaign were not returned.
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