View Full Version : Gary McKinnon loses appeal
shodan
30-07-2008, 12:52 PM
What a nightmare. full article here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4428270.ece
A British man accused of the biggest military computer hack in history is facing extradition after losing his last-ditch appeal in the House of Lords today.
Gary McKinnon, 42, a systems analyst who allegedly broke into 97 US military computers from his bedroom in Wood Green, North London, now faces at least 10 years in prison in the Unites States - although some estimates put it much higher.
Mr McKinnon was accused of crashing the US Army’s Washington network of 2,000 computers for 24 hours, causing a significant disruption to Government functions.
US prosecutors also claim that he completely shut down and rendered unusable 300 computers at a US Navy weapons station at a critical time immediately after the terror attacks of September 11, 2001.
lightworks
30-07-2008, 12:58 PM
US prosecutors also claim that he completely shut down and rendered unusable 300 computers at a US Navy weapons station at a critical time immediately after the terror attacks of September 11, 2001.
and therein lies the true reason for his extradition
he will be extradited and tortured by CIA torture specialist..using the torture technique known as waterboardingthey will also inject him with mind altering drugs...to the point where he so mentally and physically exhausted he will not even know his middle name...then they are going to program him to admit to hacking into the computersw of the remote fly capabilites of the supposed jets that crashed into the twin towers....they will also makew him confess to hacking into the computer systems and frezzing the computer systems of NORAD.....these criminals in the british and american reptilian controlled "judicial/military/govt" are desperate to create a cover story because so many people in the world and at home in washington have woken up..the feds got caught with thier pants down...and are in a panic
jimmi
30-07-2008, 01:02 PM
Tell him to grow a beard and change his name to Osama and then they'll never find him!
jimmi
30-07-2008, 01:17 PM
But far more seriously.....Gary is one of US, he's no terrorist or threat to anyone so what can I do to stop this gross miscarriage of justice being meted out on this poor man? This case is being used to show us how impotent we are when THEY decide to flex a bit of muscle, make an example,put us in our place.
So I'm asking myself what can I do to help Gary Mckinnon?
lookfar
30-07-2008, 01:25 PM
Yeah I read this earlier on today & was gutted, it's not good news at all:(
ennui
30-07-2008, 01:52 PM
I must be missing something (wouldn't be the first time)
Are we saying that this man didn't hack into a military database and render it inoperable? Is he being set up?
Or are we saying that he did this and that's ok because he had some altruistic intent? Was he doing it to try and expose something?
Sorry for being so dense.
resistance
30-07-2008, 01:55 PM
If i was him i would go on the run, its probably the better option under the circumstances, he could end up spending the rest of his life in jail:eek:
qasrose
30-07-2008, 02:14 PM
This is bad man :( I wonder if there keeping him locked away because of the information he knows about?
multiversal
30-07-2008, 02:22 PM
I must be missing something (wouldn't be the first time)
Are we saying that this man didn't hack into a military database and render it inoperable? Is he being set up?
Or are we saying that he did this and that's ok because he had some altruistic intent? Was he doing it to try and expose something?
Sorry for being so dense.
Your questions are answered in this interview with him from 2006. Spead it around...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=gary+mickinnon&sitesearch=#
lookfar
30-07-2008, 02:23 PM
I just read his profile on the BBC news site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4715612.stm
There is also a Project Camelot vid of him which I saw a while ago (sorry can't post the link as I'm at work).
qasrose
30-07-2008, 02:26 PM
Thanks lookfar
Ill be sure to check those vids out. Didn't he say in an interview though that he didn't hack the stuff from his room?. I thought he said he actually went inside the government buildings, and saying that there systems where all un protected or had very easy passwords something on that nature.
multiversal
30-07-2008, 02:30 PM
I just read his profile on the BBC news site.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4715612.stm
There is also a Project Camelot vid of him which I saw a while ago (sorry can't post the link as I'm at work).
See my post above...
parmy
30-07-2008, 02:31 PM
great news at last a common sense legal judgement - that`ll teach him - he wont be up to those tricks again in a hurry:)
lookfar
30-07-2008, 03:14 PM
See my post above...
Yeah thanks for that, saw it after I'd posted:)
ennui
30-07-2008, 03:28 PM
Your questions are answered in this interview with him from 2006. Spead it around...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=gary+mickinnon&sitesearch=#
Thank you :)
disorder2k8
30-07-2008, 03:51 PM
What a nightmare. full article here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4428270.ece
But HE didnt do any of those things. He logged into an un-passworded admin account, (their fault) and was starting to download original, unairbrushed pictures of black-ops projects, ie UFO's, moon bases, mars bases etc when he got caught.
So dont believe what you hear in the papers for his apparent 'reasons'
nibirushock2012
30-07-2008, 04:52 PM
what other options has gary got?
can he appeal to the eu high court?
tinmenace
30-07-2008, 05:10 PM
They usually force hackers to work for them. They know talent when they see it. So, depending on the truth - did he REALLY hack (major talent) or did he make use of an unprotected PC and download images?
The second question makes me wonder how he got into the facility in the first place.
Something's not adding up here...
:confused:
graflok
30-07-2008, 05:15 PM
The fact that this story is carried by mainstream news media (in the UK anyway)
makes it look like it could be a staged media event for some nefarious purpose.
Shortly before the USA elections too.
drhemp
30-07-2008, 06:11 PM
How do the judges who are sending him to the USA for certain torture and persecution sleep at night? They are a disgrace to the British and I'm utterly ashamed of them.
parmy
30-07-2008, 06:21 PM
How do the judges who are sending him to the USA for certain torture and persecution sleep at night? They are a disgrace to the British and I'm utterly ashamed of them.
simple he did wrong - now he will pay in the country in which the crime was committed - funny how everyone wants to serve there time in the uk innit!!!!
hirschfelder
30-07-2008, 07:02 PM
He implied in his Project Camelot interview that he'd kept some stuff back as a precaution against being lifted and by way of a bargaining tool
So the sadist in me would kind of like it if he was extradited, just so we could see if he has the goods or not
pduffy4
30-07-2008, 07:23 PM
I can't understand why he is being sent to the USA. Just a few days ago a group of MPs said the USA was guitly of tortuting people. Surely this must violate ther Geneva Convention?
Here is an article about the MPs and torture
US tells lies about torture, say MPs
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/20/humanrights.uksecurity
danster82
30-07-2008, 07:24 PM
Its ridiculous they want to imprison him for 60 years...
A bit of common sense lets anyone know whats really happened hes a hacker hes certainly not high profile he lives in a rather run down area its only round the corner from me, it was obviously a huge interest of hes and I believe him that he logged onto the pc's using default passwords.
The fact that the worlds super power is saying this is the biggest security hack of the history of the world should really trigger in us a certain collapse of our view of reality and how many lies we are actually feed about our world views.
He is literally one of those kids you knew from school who was a computer wiz. I certainly dont see him as a threat to my security not even in the slightest. What could potentially be a threat is the fact that US government has totally failed to secure its government networks but considering we know the bad guys are on the inside anyway it doesnt matter much to us if the system is secure or not because the only possible scenario is that a good guy breaches security.
If appealing to the courts has failed he should begin appealing to the people as he has said he did this as he belived the information should be freely available alot of people will agree with that and they want the information also even the average chump on the street so appeal to the people now.
P.S shame the forum is picking up trolls
pduffy4
30-07-2008, 07:29 PM
Link - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/20/humanrights.uksecurity
Considering the above link I can't understand why he is to be extradited.:mad:
I am going to e-mail David Milliband, who was mentioned in the article, to see if he will do anything to help Gary. It is worth a try.
lightworks
30-07-2008, 09:11 PM
I commend this man for his courage.....and salute him whole heartedly....but for him to sit there on televsion and claim to be worthy of less punishment....seems ludicrous....the facts are that he hacked into top secret or classified military information..whatever his intentions....were ...surely he must have realised the incredible risks he has put himself under...being the intelligent sort of sounding chap he seems to be.....indeed the great danger......I'd say in all fairness that given the great seriousness of hacking into not so secure military servers...he should have though twice...oh do cmon people ...of course Mr mckinnon knew the risks.....but I also belive that he has been used as a patsy as part of operation bluebeam......it has been an accidentally on purpose....how do we really know that the supposed Mr mckinnon is a real bonafide citizen....we can only of course assume this because of the very possibly fals information as having been garnered from public tell-lie-vision....indeed....we would all do well to check ourselves before we go so readily believing this bullshit illuminati spin...lest we get sucked down the rabbit hole...like alice
I will also add that this to me is a perfectly engineered tavistock institute bluebeam Psyops.....they give you a fictitous character...get you all weeping as they pull and sleight of hand tug at your public sympathy strings
I will say that this story is fictitous illuminati bullshit
But that the real reason or sole reason is to to a drip feed A release of INFORMATION about aliens amongst us....
cAN YOU NOT ALL NOW CLEARLY SEE HOW THE END RESULT JUSTIFIES THE MEANS?
there was a two page spread in the sun newspaper about aliens amongst us and UFOS....So I would say to you all to be very aware of how the illuminati spin machine works and not go get sucked in so easily....as Mr David icke says ...CONNECTING THE DOTS CONNECTING THE DOTS
YOU DIG?