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ban freekmasons
30-07-2008, 08:19 AM
Masonic Shriners Pedophile Pigs

I'm here to talk about the Masons.

I was posting on ATS (Above Top Secret) conspiracy forum, and found out a guy name Theron Dunn (a Mason) had passed away at 51 yrs old from kidney failure.

What I found, was that Theron had recently been posting negative information about the Shriners. To be a Shriner, one must be a master Mason.

Quote:
In the interests full disclosure, I want to start this off by stating that I joined Al Malikah Shrine in Los Angeles in March of 2004 in a “Cold Sands” ceremonial. I dimited from the Shrine in March of 2005 after just one year of disappointment.
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Then there is the issue of money. The Shrine is awash in money, literally. IRS records show that just over 5% of the money the Shrine takes in yearly is actually spent on their hospitals and other charities. The rest stays with the Shrine to support their various internal activities.
Beacon of Masonic Light: Is It Time For The Shrine And Freemasonry To Separate?

5%????
And they are under non-profit status. And don't try and tell me how much good the effen Shriner hospital do. The HAVE to do SOMETHING, in order to hide under their tax shelter.

When they bring in around $400,000,000 a year, nearly 1/2 billion, they spend $20 million on actual charity, which includes paying hospital staff, etc.

Now, has anyone noticed all of their charities (Masonic) center around children. Is that because they care about children so much?

No, it's because they're a bunch of pedophilia pigs.

Quote:
Federal court documents filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, Miami Division, related to case number 07-21228, list 19 witnesses who are believed to be members of the Royal Order of Jesters (ROJ) AKA Shriners AKA Masons, who are expected to testify about fishing trips to Brazil and:

“their first hand knowledge of prostitution, minor prostitution, use of illegal drugs and/or entry into Indian reservations by Schair (plaintiff) and/or his customers.”
Newsvine - "Jesters" To Testify about Illegal Drugs, Child Prostitution?

Now this is just one case. There are more, but the Shriners/Freemasons are a very powerful organization, with more than 3 million members in the US alone, probably many more.

They are judges, cops, lawyers, you name it. In all high levels of politics, and business, expect some Freemasons to be running things.

To be a non-profit, one need to be unaffiliated with any politics. Seems the IRS looks past the Freemason/Shriners/Elks etc.

But the have their little parades, with their gay little hats, attracting children like wolves in sheeps clothing.

And Theron Dunn?

I'm convinced he was murdered, by poisoning.

He died from sudden renal failure, due to kidney poisoning.

This whole organization has to come down!!

They have instilled presidents (Bush is a Mason) and many top level military
general.

Quote:
This was an email sent out about 3 weeks ago to all Texas Masons by a mason going by the name of Sam Houston. He charges that a secret group within the Shriners called the Royal Order of Jesters is involved in an illegal prostitution and illegal gambling ring. He chose a very fitting name since Sam Houston was the first Grandmaster of the Grand Lodge of Texas. Here is the email that was sent:
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While in the shrine I was very active. Taking my family with me on the weekends to events was a very exciting time in my life, and the life of my family. I was approached in the Shrine and was told that I was a good Shriner and that I was invited to join a secret society within the Shrine--The Royal Order of Jesters.
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The initiation practices have not changed as well. Prostitutes were offered/made available at our functions and often brothers would have sex in front of other brothers.

Oral sex competitions between brothers were considered “fun” activities to build a strong brotherhood bond between members of the Royal Order of Jesters.
The Royal Order of Jesters

What a bunch of freaks!!!

What do you expect, when you call yourself a Worshipful Master.

Burn in Hell boys, burn in Hell. From "STOMPK" our Anti Corruption Party friend in the US.

mike martin
30-07-2008, 07:01 PM
This post is very distressing for me as Theron was a personal friend and he would be really pissed off seeing his writing being distorted in such a sick way.

To set the record staright as Theron would have wished. What he actually wrote was:

Is it Time for the Shrine and Freemasonry to Separate?

In the interests full disclosure, I want to start this off by stating that I joined Al Malikah Shrine in Los Angeles in March of 2004 in a “Cold Sands” ceremonial. I dimited from the Shrine in March of 2005 after just one year of disappointment.

The intent of this article is not to slam the Shrine, nor to defame the brothers who put so much effort into the Shrine and its various activities and charities. However, it IS the intention of this article to examine whether Blue Lodge Masonry should continue its association with the Shrine.


The first question that should be asked is: Is the Shrine Freemasonry. To answer that, we need to examine the Shrine’s relationship with Blue Lodge Freemasonry. It seems to be a one-way street, with Freemasonry serving as the recruiting ground for the Shrine, while receiving no benefit, other than the very tenuous claim to the $720 million dollars per year the Shrine donates to charities.


I write one way street deliberately, because it has been my observation that the Shrine only lays claim to Freemasonic roots when it serves their purposes, and not often at that. As an example, we have all seen the ubiquitous Shrine ads, showing a man in a fez carrying a child. When has anyone ever seen that ad with a square and compass, or the notation that Shriners are all Masons?


Even on the Shrine web pages, finding any reference to Freemasonry is a tough search. So, the Shrine is made of Freemasons who are seemingly ashamed to admit they are Freemasons. How can that be?


The Shrine seems to see the Blue Lodges as their own private recruiting grounds, but they are unwilling to do anything to support the lodges. Oh, they repeatedly state that Shriners should participate in their lodge, but the SHRINE itself, seems to do everything they can to distance themselves from Freemasonry.


In fact, a few years ago, the Shrine, seeing declining membership, removed the requirement that a man be a York or Scottish Rite Mason before he could join the Shrine. The proved to be a very bad thing for the York and Scottish Rites, but hey, the membership in Shrine increased without the additional hurdle of men needing to join the other rites.


The membership of the Shrine is dependent upon the membership of the Blue Lodge, yet the Shrine fails to do the ONE thing that would make a difference… publicly acknowledge that the Shrine IS Freemasonry. Instead, they back one day conferrals of the three degrees, what is purportedly called all the way in a day.


When I showed up for my third degree, there was a brother Shriner standing there with a petition for me to fill out to become a Shriner two days later. Why would anyone want to join the Shrine, or any other appendant body within days, or even months of becoming a master mason?


Then there is the issue of money. The Shrine is awash in money, literally. IRS records show that just over 5% of the money the Shrine takes in yearly is actually spent on their hospitals and other charities. The rest stays with the Shrine to support their various internal activities. As a charity, the Shrine seems to be no better than the Red Cross… and all the Shrine labor is donated so their costs should be much lower.


The Shrine even took a vote, four years ago now, on whether it should separate itself from Blue Lodge Freemasonry! The vote failed, but not by much, which raises the question, why is Freemasonry still associated with this club? I mean, the Shrine is really no different from the Elks Lodge (which is little more than a bar with a Charity grafted on) or the Moose Lodge or, frankly, any one of a hundred other charities.


The Scottish and York Rites offer extended examination of Blue Lodge lessons, so it’s easy to see why they are affiliated, same with Order of the Eastern Star. The Shrine is just a playground and a charity, and has so little to do with Freemasonry it is amazing they were accepted for affiliation.


So, we have an affiliated body that is composed entirely of masons yet does not teach anything related to Masonic tenets; a body that is dedicated to celebration, partying and fund raising, but not to anything freemasonry teaches, except charity; a body that seems to be ashamed of its own association with Freemasonry. The question then is why the Freemasonry associated with the Shrine at all?


The money raised through various Masonic efforts and donated to the Shrine could be better put to use by the various Grand Lodges for the benefit of Masonry in general, as the United Grand Lodge if England does. They have a single Grand Charity, into which funds have been invested for a LONG time, and the proceeds from those investments fund many charities in the UK.


Its not that the hospitals the Shrine supports aren’t worthwhile endeavors, but it may be that the time has come to allow the Shrine to continue their worthwhile efforts on their own, and to let Freemasonry continue its efforts… separately.

May the blessing of heaven rest upon us and all regular masons. May brotherly love prevail, and every moral and social virtue, cement us.

elirien
30-07-2008, 08:28 PM
Well both posts aren't worth much since they didn't give any sources. Although I know of what ban freekmasons talks about. Those guys are really sick and I don't believe you have to be in any organization to do charity work. Non-profit organizations are mostly bs imho.

edelweiss pirate
30-07-2008, 08:39 PM
Well both posts aren't worth much since they didn't give any sources.

Is that right daddy?

What about personal testimonies? What about cross referencing with your own experience and research.

You've been here a long time Elirien, surely you've learned something about the evil that rules our world....?

These days you need to follow your instincts. If your instincts are so rusty that you find it hard to choose between a mason's 'truth' and a mason-hunter's truth... well, you ain't gonna find your way home bud. Not this lifetime anyways...

This ain't a university seminar boy! This is a battle for your very soul. Prissy winging about sources is just laughable.

Just the kind of talk that has allowed education and the media to be controlled by people who deride anything 'left field' as not being substantiated by the very media and education system 'they' contol. Do you understand the catch 22?

People searching for 'proof' of their corruption in the media are inlikely to find it because the media is controlled by the very people who carry out the corruption. See the problem when you ask for proof? That's why it's become a mason catchphrase, they know it's hard or near impossible to find.

tylerstoast
30-07-2008, 09:06 PM
People searching for 'proof' of their corruption in the media are inlikely to find it because the media is controlled by the very people who carry out the corruption. See the problem when you ask for proof? That's why it's become a mason catchphrase, they know it's hard or near impossible to find.

Can I ask you a friendly question in relation to that statement ? although its not about media corruption per se, more the "asking for proof is a diversionary tactic" if I can summarise it as such.

How does one ask for proof of a revelation that counters their belief without falling into the situation you describe above ?

I mean asking for proof is all that can be done when the statement flies in the face of personal experience, so what else could I do in this situation ?

I think its a bit unfair to call asking for proof " a catchphrase" when I see it as a valid question (certainly most if not all of the time)

Surely you yourself must have asked for proof in the past ?

Peace & I hope I make sense ! :D

lizzy
30-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Just the kind of talk that has allowed education and the media to be controlled by people who deride anything 'left field' as not being substantiated by the very media and education system 'they' contol. Do you understand the catch 22?

People searching for 'proof' of their corruption in the media are inlikely to find it because the media is controlled by the very people who carry out the corruption. See the problem when you ask for proof? That's why it's become a mason catchphrase, they know it's hard or near impossible to find.

Yes, EP, how can it be any other way?....

edelweiss pirate
30-07-2008, 09:48 PM
Can I ask you a friendly question in relation to that statement ? although its not about media corruption per se, more the "asking for proof is a diversionary tactic" if I can summarise it as such.

How does one ask for proof of a revelation that counters their belief without falling into the situation you describe above ?

I mean asking for proof is all that can be done when the statement flies in the face of personal experience, so what else could I do in this situation ?

I think its a bit unfair to call asking for proof " a catchphrase" when I see it as a valid question (certainly most if not all of the time)

Surely you yourself must have asked for proof in the past ?

Peace & I hope I make sense ! :D

Oh Jees ANOTHER mason (or are you a roofer). You do realise people that there are probably now more actively posting masons on this forum than real people.....

mike martin
30-07-2008, 10:22 PM
Well both posts aren't worth much since they didn't give any sources. Although I know of what ban freekmasons talks about. Those guys are really sick and I don't believe you have to be in any organization to do charity work. Non-profit organizations are mostly bs imho.
Sorry I thought it was clear. The source is Theron's own blog here: http://beaconofmasoniclight.blogspot.com/2007/10/is-it-time-for-shrine-and-freemasonry.html

It was Theron sharing his personal take and experiences of Freemasonry. Theron was a committed Freemason who believed very strongly in Masonic precepts and often spoke out against those who try to abuse and/or misuse the Fraternity.

Mike

tylerstoast
30-07-2008, 10:44 PM
Oh Jees ANOTHER mason (or are you a roofer). You do realise people that there are probably now more actively posting masons on this forum than real people.....

I appreciate you must dislike masons so therefore I totally respect your perogative to respond in this way.

A Shame from my point of view but not really a suprise :)

elirien
30-07-2008, 11:07 PM
Is that right daddy?

What about personal testimonies? What about cross referencing with your own experience and research.

You've been here a long time Elirien, surely you've learned something about the evil that rules our world....?

These days you need to follow your instincts. If your instincts are so rusty that you find it hard to choose between a mason's 'truth' and a mason-hunter's truth... well, you ain't gonna find your way home bud. Not this lifetime anyways...

This ain't a university seminar boy! This is a battle for your very soul. Prissy winging about sources is just laughable.

Just the kind of talk that has allowed education and the media to be controlled by people who deride anything 'left field' as not being substantiated by the very media and education system 'they' contol. Do you understand the catch 22?

People searching for 'proof' of their corruption in the media are inlikely to find it because the media is controlled by the very people who carry out the corruption. See the problem when you ask for proof? That's why it's become a mason catchphrase, they know it's hard or near impossible to find.

Geez Dude. Mellow down. I meant where they've got that letter from. I mean come on. I did say sources not proof. I think it should be quite hard to interpret my sentence the way you did. Geez. I know of that stuff that you have written except catch 22. What is that?

You need to go out daddy. What good is it to preach at someone who thinks the same way about this subject as you do.

elirien
30-07-2008, 11:29 PM
Here is something interesting to read.
http://sandyfrost.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/29/1705287-trowbridge-sentencing-delayed-as-jester-prostitution-investigation-continues-

I mean rather then crying out loud for revenge I googled "shriner prostitution". Wow. I'll be probably condemned by both masons and anti-masons for not reverting to demagogy and using a little bit of proof and facts. Happy reading and I hope that at least this topic would be used for real exposing rather then what happened before.

cacadores
31-07-2008, 12:39 AM
This ain't a university seminar boy! This is a battle for your very soul. Prissy winging about sources is just laughable.
............People searching for 'proof' of their corruption in the media are inlikely to find it because the media is controlled by the very people who carry out the corruptionBelief without evidence is prejudice.

Passing on belief without evidence is mind control.

ban freekmasons
31-07-2008, 08:06 AM
Belief without evidence is prejudice.

Passing on belief without evidence is mind control.

Shouting from behind curtains is wrong. Defending a criminal organisation is wrong, etc.....................

But here's the best bit "passing on belief without evidence is mind control"
That's exactly what Masonry is all about, just ask Albert Pike.

element
31-07-2008, 08:13 AM
Belief without evidence is prejudice.

Passing on belief without evidence is mind control.

Then no one in here on forums can share experiences and other stuff, because you can get no scientific ''evidence''.

People themselves chose to be mind controlled, make up your own mind. Don't be such a joke, you're just being a dictionairy here.

elirien
31-07-2008, 08:28 AM
Then no one in here on forums can share experiences and other stuff, because you can get no scientific ''evidence''.

People themselves chose to be mind controlled, make up your own mind. Don't be such a joke, book repeater.

I mean I love reading about dreams etc. but it is the observer that is important not the dream. I can't trust anyone. That's my nature. That doesn't mean that I accuse everyone of being evil or deceiving. Why could it be wrong to ask for a source and proof of some event that occurred right in this century. I mean nuff enigma eh ? ;)

cacadores
31-07-2008, 06:21 PM
Shouting from behind curtains is wrong. Defending a criminal organisation is wrong, etc.....................But here's the best bit "passing on belief without evidence is mind control"
That's exactly what Masonry is all about, just ask Albert Pike.Well, exactly (if you believe that). Let's not fall into the same trap then!

cacadores
31-07-2008, 06:24 PM
Then no one in here on forums can share experiences and other stuff, because you can get no scientific ''evidence''.
What a thing to say!

Why can't people share their experiences? You want to be a little more tolerant man:)

element
31-07-2008, 06:44 PM
What a thing to say!

Why can't people share their experiences? You want to be a little more tolerant man:)

No it was you that said beliefs without evidence is mind control. I disagree with that statement.
It doesn't always go like that.

elirien
31-07-2008, 07:28 PM
Here is something interesting to read.
http://sandyfrost.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/29/1705287-trowbridge-sentencing-delayed-as-jester-prostitution-investigation-continues-


Did anyone at all read this?

edelweiss pirate
31-07-2008, 11:54 PM
Did anyone at all read this?

Not surprised at all.

The people who defend them are as bad as the perverts themselves.
They are unbelievably evil.

The question is why would anyone do that? It's just twisted and insane.

So we have all the proof we need. Will the masons stop hectoring and badgering the truth seekers on the forum? Of course not, these people have no honor or decency or whatsoever....They're pathological liars belonging to an institution of pure evil.

In fact I wonder what's really inside them... Can people who behave in this way still be considered human at all or are we literally dealing with demon possessed human vessels....

damagedbrainn
01-08-2008, 12:06 AM
Did anyone at all read this?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=368046#post368046

cacadores
01-08-2008, 01:14 AM
Re:Mind Control

No it was you that said beliefs without evidence is mind control. I disagree with that statement.
It doesn't always go like that.
WOW!

I didn't say that at all. Have a look: it annoyed you - fair enough - and then something in you mis-interpreted a simple aphorism TWICE. Now I would find that interesting.

Look, I wrote:
Belief without evidence is prejudice.

You read it as
'scientific evidence' and swapped 'evidence' for 'mind control'. Yet I wrote no such thing.

I wrote:
Passing on belief without evidence is mind control.
You 'contradicted' me by saying
''People themselves chose to be mind controlled, make up your own mind'' Yet what you wrote is no contradiction!

Now I would find that very interesting. The subconscious mind seems to be objecting to something within the two aphorims, but the conscious mind seems unable to formulate the objection. And in the struggle to formulate an objection in words, the subconscious mind appears to be doing the only thing it can do: make the conscious mind mis-read the words. Twice.


That's bloody mind blowing.



Those are words, but Mitroff and Scholl at Yale University even did experiments with things; on the way we select incoming visual information and how even salient visual objects can go unseen. Maybe more interestingly, they also demonstated how people can perceive stimuli which are not physically present. But this is more than a relationship between visual memory and conscious awarenes, it's also about the subconscious mind, seemingly directing the phenominon. As far as I know, this is at the edge of science: all the scientic mainstream can demonstrate is that it happens. For why it happens, you're entering Freudian theories but either way, it's bloody weird when you notice it.

elirien
01-08-2008, 12:50 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=368046#post368046

thanks damagedbrainn but I allready read that one and it seems that even you didn't read what I had posted and neither the thread that you linked to :)

damagedbrainn
01-08-2008, 08:04 PM
thanks damagedbrainn but I allready read that one and it seems that even you didn't read what I had posted and neither the thread that you linked to :)

I commented on it and even found further information about the Shriners to add to it, so I obviously did read it. Check again.

elirien
01-08-2008, 08:07 PM
I commented on it and even found further information about the Shriners to add to it, so I obviously did read it. Check again.

Oh ok. I'm sorry :o My bad.

elirien
02-08-2008, 10:08 AM
Not surprised at all.

The people who defend them are as bad as the perverts themselves.
They are unbelievably evil.

The question is why would anyone do that? It's just twisted and insane.

So we have all the proof we need. Will the masons stop hectoring and badgering the truth seekers on the forum? Of course not, these people have no honor or decency or whatsoever....They're pathological liars belonging to an institution of pure evil.

In fact I wonder what's really inside them... Can people who behave in this way still be considered human at all or are we literally dealing with demon possessed human vessels....

I observe this behaviorism with almost any guy in politics and the commercial area. The guys at my office are either relatives to masons or mason-light members(like the rotary or lions clubs). I just can't understand them one bit. I could rant about it all day.

dawnismygoddess
21-08-2009, 02:42 AM
This makes me sick:



Former leader of Hampton Roads Shriners arrested on child porn charges (http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-shriner,0,4672147.story)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/untitled11.jpg



July 21, 2009

This 68-year-old pedo had two online memberships to illegal child pron sites, and a thousand images of child porn on his computer, along with 7 videos.

After his first arrest was he allowed to remain on the rolls, and apparently is still on them. WTF?

Story is out of Hampton Virginia.



Even the Masons are upset (http://www.freemasoninformation.com/2009/07/enough-is-to-much-in-the-virginia-shrine/)

edelweiss pirate
21-08-2009, 12:58 PM
This makes me sick:



Former leader of Hampton Roads Shriners arrested on child porn charges (http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-shriner,0,4672147.story)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/untitled11.jpg



July 21, 2009

This 68-year-old pedo had two online memberships to illegal child pron sites, and a thousand images of child porn on his computer, along with 7 videos.

After his first arrest was he allowed to remain on the rolls, and apparently is still on them. WTF?

Story is out of Hampton Virginia.



Even the Masons are upset (http://www.freemasoninformation.com/2009/07/enough-is-to-much-in-the-virginia-shrine/)

Good find.... But yeah, it's fucking horrible. Hell is too good for them.

keystone
21-08-2009, 01:52 PM
Good find.... But yeah, it's fucking horrible.Quite agree sickens me to the pit of my stomach.

Hell is too good for them.Hell is too good for HIM.

Cheers

edelweiss pirate
21-08-2009, 02:01 PM
Quite agree sickens me to the pit of my stomach.

Hell is too good for HIM.

Cheers

Very smooth Keystone... But it's definitely a 'them' as far as I'm concerned.

There's too much smoke with masons and their like and always has been and where there's smoke there's Satan and hell fire...

keystone
21-08-2009, 02:06 PM
Very smooth Keystone... But it's definitely a 'them' as far as I'm concerned.Wasn't supposed to be smooth! I'd be first in line with the castration knife frankly. When he is found guilty then he should be dealt with with the full force of the law. Unless by "them" you mean all kiddy fiddlers then I'm with you all the way.

There's too much smoke with masons and their like and always has been and where there's smoke there's Satan and hell fire...I know you think that and I also know you there is little chance of you changing your mind but I'll continue to try.;)

Cheers

edelweiss pirate
21-08-2009, 02:07 PM
He was 'the leader' Keystone. The 'leader'.

keystone
21-08-2009, 02:40 PM
He was 'the leader' Keystone. The 'leader'.I know that. So what? By that logic every single Labour MP is a male jockanese prat. I don't understand why are you trying to reflect his personal depravity onto everyone else?

keystone
21-08-2009, 02:43 PM
and further more he was the 'leader' of his shrine in 1995 by the article. It changes every year and eveyone gets a turn year on year. Now if he was shown to be the leader of a paedo ring that would be a different matter entirely and I would agree with you.

Cheers

edelweiss pirate
21-08-2009, 02:44 PM
I know that. So what? By that logic every single Labour MP is a male jockanese prat. I don't understand why are you trying to reflect his personal depravity onto everyone else?

I'm glad I'm not in your shoes.... having to cover up misdemeanours like this.

How long can you bear it Keystone?

keystone
21-08-2009, 02:46 PM
I'm glad I'm not in your shoes.... having to cover up misdemeanours like this.

How long can you bear it Keystone?

Oh FFS - I'm not covering it up. Where is your sense of perspective?

Cheers

edelweiss pirate
21-08-2009, 02:48 PM
Oh FFS - I'm not covering it up what on earth is wrong with you?

Cheers

Why the swearing? Is the devil getting annoyed?

Your group's days are numbered. People will soon discover the whole truth and your name will be cursed for ever. It's just a question of when.

keystone
21-08-2009, 03:12 PM
Why the swearing? Is the devil getting annoyed?Because I seriously object to and am deeply offended by your accusation that I am covering up or condoning activity of this sort.

Capiche?

Cheers

dawnismygoddess
21-08-2009, 10:31 PM
Chill out guys.....:)

keystone
21-08-2009, 10:38 PM
Chill out guys.....:)I'm chilled in general :cool: but a personal attack like this is just beyond the pale really ain't it?

Cheers