11:11

[richmick]

Who see's this number sequence alot. I started waking up at 11:11 every day for a whole week, 7 years ago, just after my 5 year relationship broke apart and my ex partner left with my son. I question alot, is this a good omen or not. Most like to see it as good, but ive had many occasions where it's been around and all hell breaks loose in my life. Has anyone else here experienced this, if so, how do you feel about them, good or bad?

Here's an interesting fact. Christianity is rehashed Egyptian sun worship. They worshiped the Aten and Amun Ra. The Lords prayer says "Our Father, who art in heaven, give us this day our daily bread".

The Egyptian priest scientists knew that monatomic gold was basically light in a powder. They believed that the sun and light were god. Only the Pharaohs were fed monatomic gold powder in a cone shaped white bread called "sho bread". Monatomic gold was "god in a powder". By ingesting it the Pharaohs were trying to attain or keep "god like" properties and communication with other dimensions while keepint it away from the masses.

A different reading of the Lords prayer is "Aten Aten, who art in heaven, give us this day our daily sho bread".

Today we eat white bread which is not good for us but we don't know why. It is a symbolic throwback to sho bread but without the power of monatomic gold in it.

Once you realise the power of monatomic gold and it's real power you can see why the power base on earth is like it is.

My research took me to Chartes in France where the glass in the windows contains monatomic gold. It allows a god like light into the building which gives it an amazing holy feel.

I don't know about anyone else but I'm seeing something worth following here.

[naturesdaughter]

I see elevens all the time usually on clocks but necessarily just there. 11:11, 5:11, 7:11, there has not benn a day that has not gone by in the last seven years that I did not look suddenly at a clock or some else with numbers and see an eleven of some sort. I have researched it the stuff I found was extremely fascinating. First of all eleven is the number of awakening consciousness. So whenn you see it always try to immediately become circumspect. It is one beyond ten so begins to reach toward the cosmic cyle number of twelve, and hints at passing on to the transcendental number of thirteeen.. I know these are the numbers the life energy stealers use but they are not evil but rather in need of use towards life affirming applications.
I will post an interesting link to a site later that I know your gonna love (unless you have already been there)

[richmick]

I see elevens all the time usually on clocks but necessarily just there. 11:11, 5:11, 7:11, there has not benn a day that has not gone by in the last seven years that I did not look suddenly at a clock or some else with numbers and see an eleven of some sort. I have researched it the stuff I found was extremely fascinating. First of all eleven is the number of awakening consciousness. So whenn you see it always try to immediately become circumspect. It is one beyond ten so begins to reach toward the cosmic cyle number of twelve, and hints at passing on to the transcendental number of thirteeen.. I know these are the numbers the life energy stealers use but they are not evil but rather in need of use towards life affirming applications.
I will post an interesting link to a site later that I know your gonna love (unless you have already been there)


Thankyou naturesdaughter. I did investigate this strange occurance 6 months after they started. I typed 11:11 in on my new computer as a search and was amazed to see so many others experiencing them. I dont feel altogether positive about them, because like i said, they have come at trying times in my life. Not always of course. I see them now daily. But i knew someone else who saw them, but has died since. So my question is, are they really a good thing, do they serve any purpose. Is it a psy-ops by the governments, you know, with haarp and all this futuristic technology they are supposed to have. Not to mention the world trade centre. I dont aspire to solaras, i think that's her name. I dont know why, but she gives me the willies, she feels wrong, but i may be wrong myself, i dont know right now..:cool:

[naturesdaughter]

I investigated that haarp stuff. Wicked and extremely frightening. Never heard of Solarus. But as to elevens the question in my mind was and is what causes me to look at that precise time at that precise location to see an eleven. In other words what pushes me psychically to do this? After years of investigating this phenomena through my own experience I have concluded that it may be positive because usaully when this occurs there is something crucial around me like a clue that I need to take not of. Not always but many times or else I just didn't see the clue even though it was probably there. There have been odd messages in conjunction with these elevens, radio bits from songs or speech fragments that would only have meaning to me and my immediate circumstances.

[horseflesh]

I was born at 11 minutes past 11. And yes I do notice it a lot. :)

[21_12_2012]

Who see's this number sequence alot. I started waking up at 11:11 every day for a whole week, 7 years ago, just after my 5 year relationship broke apart and my ex partner left with my son. I question alot, is this a good omen or not. Most like to see it as good, but ive had many occasions where it's been around and all hell breaks loose in my life. Has anyone else here experienced this, if so, how do you feel about them, good or bad?

For the last 6 years i have been experiencing this, and one of my ex girlfriends has too.
I have read some stuff about it, and i believe it is related to 'awakening' and DNA change. Also i have read about the 1,111 spirits (i think they're called midway people or something similar to that). These 1,111 'spirits' are supposedly around us all the time, they attract our attention in little ways.
One of the ways is by making us look at clocks/dials/numbers when it is 11.11
Next time it happens, try and notice the seconds, i'll bet you it is 11 seconds as well, it is with me anyway.
Apparently they are signs to let us know they are around, and i have evn read that you can make 'affirmations' or 'wishes' when they are around and they will attempt to assist you with them.
I have read you can ask them to prove themselves to be there, like for example ask them to make a noise or move something, but i have never done this yet, i just usually wish for something good.
How much of this is true i don't know, but it is SPOOKY when i dont look at the clock for hours and hours and then suddenly, for no reason, i look at it, and its 11.11.11.
I dont ever wear a watch either.
Also, i don't know if this is relevant, but the dimensional shift in 2012 is supposed to happen at 11.11 am on 21st december 2012 !
Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not !

[richmick]

I investigated that haarp stuff. Wicked and extremely frightening. Never heard of Solarus. But as to elevens the question in my mind was and is what causes me to look at that precise time at that precise location to see an eleven. In other words what pushes me psychically to do this? After years of investigating this phenomena through my own experience I have concluded that it may be positive because usaully when this occurs there is something crucial around me like a clue that I need to take not of. Not always but many times or else I just didn't see the clue even though it was probably there. There have been odd messages in conjunction with these elevens, radio bits from songs or speech fragments that would only have meaning to me and my immediate circumstances.


Ive often, when seeing them, made a wish. Those wishes never transpired to be honest. Ive stopped in my track and emptied my mind, to maybe see or feel something, but nothing happens. I do believe there are no ordinary moments, that everything happens for a reason, but i'm still lost as to why i see them.
I had an experience at the time i first saw them. I woke up in the night, and i felt paralised. I felt as if something was on my back. I strained my head to look over my shoulder, and i know your gonna think i'm nuts, but there appeared to be a shadow, black as coal, on my back..and it's arm seemed to reach into my body, lower, near the base area of my spine..my body felt like energy was being drawn from it.. well anyway, it scared the life out of me and i put 11:11 and this experience into the same box.. i'm keeping an open mind, but with the technology these dark ones have, i'm not sure what's good and what's bad anymore... there is so much disinfo out there..:mad: :( :rolleyes: :)

[21_12_2012]

I had a similar experience in bed, some kind of entity was attempting to get into my body, i woke up paralysed and couldnt breathe or move, but i managed to get rid of all fear from my mind and visualise myself pushing it out of me, and it went. I think it started happening when i was asleep and i woke up in time.
I do not think this has anything to do with 11.11, as this is something positive.

[richmick]

I had a similar experience in bed, some kind of entity was attempting to get into my body, i woke up paralysed and couldnt breathe or move, but i managed to get rid of all fear from my mind and visualise myself pushing it out of me, and it went. I think it started happening when i was asleep and i woke up in time.
I do not think this has anything to do with 11.11, as this is something positive.

I did something similar to rid myself of it, i imagined white light surrounding the shadow, and it left..i was so exhausted i fell straight back to sleep.

[21_12_2012]

Yep, sounds exactly the same as my experience, but i could not see what this entity was, i just felt it in my chest area trying to get into my body. I was sleeping on my back when i woke up in the middle of this, and it must have lasted another few seconds until i managed to get it off using my mind power. I think i may have imagined light I'm not sure now i was very tired, but i did remember to not show fear, which i think these things may feed off.
Maybe i was having a fearful nightmare at the time, and it chose this opportunity to 'get into me', but when i awoke i managed to rid myself of all fear, and i let out a loud gasp when it sort of 'popped out'
This was only a few weeks ago, but i remember it quite well, the feeling wasn't nice at all. Now i sleep with crystals under my pillow for protection, and i try to 'seal my aura' using visualisation every night before i sleep.

[richmick]

Yep, sounds exactly the same as my experience, but i could not see what this entity was, i just felt it in my chest area trying to get into my body. I was sleeping on my back when i woke up in the middle of this, and it must have lasted another few seconds until i managed to get it off using my mind power. I think i may have imagined light I'm not sure now i was very tired, but i did remember to not show fear, which i think these things may feed off.
Maybe i was having a fearful nightmare at the time, and it chose this opportunity to 'get into me', but when i awoke i managed to rid myself of all fear, and i let out a loud gasp when it sort of 'popped out'
This was only a few weeks ago, but i remember it quite well, the feeling wasn't nice at all. Now i sleep with crystals under my pillow for protection, and i try to 'seal my aura' using visualisation every night before i sleep.

Yep, it's a freightening experience. I found the feeling of being paralised, exceptionally freightening. I, like you, knew i had to use my mind, to be free of it. I could not move for the life of me. So since it was a shadow, i thought light casts shadows away. That's how my mind was working. Now, i know this bits going to sound weird, since it was a shadow. My room was only lit by the neon light from a street light, but i swear it was grinning, or my mind felt it was grinning. It's really hard to describe unless you have experienced it. Your right by the way, at the time it happened i was very low, after my relationship had failed, but 11:11 then the shadow appeared, when i was LOW. i do think if they are real and not Haarp, then they feed of the negatively low people, the depressed, or even as you say, those who suffer nightmares.

[21_12_2012]

I think that must be the case, either they can 'sense' and detect when someone is either in a low state whilst sleeping, or in fearful state (like i was probably in my nightmare) and maybe they can see our astral bodies from their dimension, and then 'home in on them' maybe.
I also have another theory, but i hope this is wrong, maybe these things can detect people who are "awke' mentally to what's going on regarding this whole control/manipulation/conspiracy situation, and maybe we give off different auras that people who are 'not awake', and maybe these entites want to target the people who are awake because they fear we might outnumber them eventually, and the conspiracy will be over ! (Just a mad thought i had a few minutes ago)
But also, you mention 11.11 too, i have also read that 11.11 opens up a dimensional doorway, and that is why if we 'wish for things' at 11.11 when we are prompted to look at the clocks, manifestation is much much easier, due to the fact that this 'doorway' to other dimensions is open.
So, maybe a combination of you feeling down, and this dimensional doorway being open, some entity took advantage of the doorway at that time, and chose to enter and 'do it's stuff'
It is deep stuff this, and i would be very interested to hear if this has happened to anybody else on here, i think it has only happened maybe 2 times at the most in my life, and both of these times were within the last 12 months.
Maybe it is worth starting a new thread just about 'possession' asking who has experienced this stuff.
I bet LOTS have on here.

[richmick]

I think that must be the case, either they can 'sense' and detect when someone is either in a low state whilst sleeping, or in fearful state (like i was probably in my nightmare) and maybe they can see our astral bodies from their dimension, and then 'home in on them' maybe.
I also have another theory, but i hope this is wrong, maybe these things can detect people who are "awke' mentally to what's going on regarding this whole control/manipulation/conspiracy situation, and maybe we give off different auras that people who are 'not awake', and maybe these entites want to target the people who are awake because they fear we might outnumber them eventually, and the conspiracy will be over ! (Just a mad thought i had a few minutes ago)
But also, you mention 11.11 too, i have also read that 11.11 opens up a dimensional doorway, and that is why if we 'wish for things' at 11.11 when we are prompted to look at the clocks, manifestation is much much easier, due to the fact that this 'doorway' to other dimensions is open.
So, maybe a combination of you feeling down, and this dimensional doorway being open, some entity took advantage of the doorway at that time, and chose to enter and 'do it's stuff'
It is deep stuff this, and i would be very interested to hear if this has happened to anybody else on here, i think it has only happened maybe 2 times at the most in my life, and both of these times were within the last 12 months.
Maybe it is worth starting a new thread just about 'possession' asking who has experienced this stuff.
I bet LOTS have on here.



No kidding, but when i had the experience with the shadow, i thought to myself often, since i have meditated for over 10 years, that maybe im reaching some point of enlightenment and something, bad, doesn't want me to go there. Is doing it's best to distract me, and yes like you, i also thought that maybe, from their higher perspective (i think icke calls it the lower 4th dimension) they easily seek out those who start to feel/see beyond the veil. Which is bloody scarey if you think about it...geesh..nice synch though;)

[21_12_2012]

Yes, i am sure it is a doorway, i have read that too. I am getting confused with being 'all positive' because a doorway can let in both good and bad entities i suppose. But the 1,111 spirits (midway people i think theyre called) are supposedly very helpful spirits, who watch us, and even stop us from having accidents i believe.
I dont know if this has happened to you but it has happened to me LOTS of times:-
I've been driving in my car and not looking at the road for a second or 2, mauybe chaniging the cd or moving something in the car, or looking to the far left or far right, and suddenly for no reason something makes me look up or look the other way, and then i see that a car or something is going to come my way, or maybe im going to hit the kerb or something like that...well, these 1,111 spirits supposedly can see stuff like this 'going to happen' to people, and they can move at VERY fast speeds compared to us humans, and they 'nudge our brains' at times of accidents.
Like if somethings going to hit you on your head or something or you nearly smash something by accident in the house, stuff like that...they supposedly nudge you to become aware of things that could injure you...it makes sense to me.
But the entities we have been talking about are DEFINATELY not part of those spirits anyway.
I am almost certain that these evil ones can take advantage of the 11.11 doorway into dimensions.
When i get time i will have a look on the net about it, but i am sure thats what its about.

[21_12_2012]

No kidding, but when i had the experience with the shadow, i thought to myself often, since i have meditated for over 10 years, that maybe im reaching some point of enlightenment and something, bad, doesn't want me to go there. Is doing it's best to distract me, and yes like you, i also thought that maybe, from their higher perspective (i think icke calls it the lower 4th dimension) they easily seek out those who start to feel/see beyond the veil. Which is bloody scarey if you think about it...geesh..nice synch though;)

I have meditated for about 2 years now, not every day, but i have used crystals for 3 years and been into 'conspiracy stuff' since around 1999, and i think 'enlightenment' does affect the appearance of the aura in some way, it must do due to all the increased energy which people who meditate and use crystals have in their aura.
Maybe they act as a beacon in some way to all entities on this 'lower 4th' or 'neutral zone' and even higher dimensions, both good and bad entities may be able to see it. I bet theres information about that on the net too, but i havent looked into it much.
i wouldnt let it put you off meditating or 'breaking through the veil'...it definately wont put me off anyway, in fact it makes me want to go higher, and show even less fear next time this happens again (if it ever does, which i hope it doesnt haha)
onward and upward i say ! fearless !

[richmick]

Yes, i am sure it is a doorway, i have read that too. I am getting confused with being 'all positive' because a doorway can let in both good and bad entities i suppose. But the 1,111 spirits (midway people i think theyre called) are supposedly very helpful spirits, who watch us, and even stop us from having accidents i believe.
I dont know if this has happened to you but it has happened to me LOTS of times:-
I've been driving in my car and not looking at the road for a second or 2, mauybe chaniging the cd or moving something in the car, or looking to the far left or far right, and suddenly for no reason something makes me look up or look the other way, and then i see that a car or something is going to come my way, or maybe im going to hit the kerb or something like that...well, these 1,111 spirits supposedly can see stuff like this 'going to happen' to people, and they can move at VERY fast speeds compared to us humans, and they 'nudge our brains' at times of accidents.
Like if somethings going to hit you on your head or something or you nearly smash something by accident in the house, stuff like that...they supposedly nudge you to become aware of things that could injure you...it makes sense to me.
But the entities we have been talking about are DEFINATELY not part of those spirits anyway.
I am almost certain that these evil ones can take advantage of the 11.11 doorway into dimensions.
When i get time i will have a look on the net about it, but i am sure thats what its about.

lol yes ive had moments in my car, were i have thought , my god, lucky i was delayed (an accident ahead), or lucky i took the wrong turn (thinking at the time, grrrrrrrr)..i even had a moment where, a friend i had not seen for years, came to mind as i was standing in an airport, when i walked back to that spot later, this old friend was there, in the spot id been thinking about him in..not really related, but expanding here, i get lots of synchs and so called coincidences and dejavous. Also, when meditating, sometimes, well alot, i see eyes, some closed that feel like their meditating, nice eyes i might add, the others, lets just say, very evil looking..so menacing, i thought i would have to give up meditation...their freaky..sorry dude if ive gone of track, but alot happens, it's been a struggle over the last few years..:)

[21_12_2012]

No probs, I know what you're saying...I've had an 'up and down' time of it these last couple of years myself! Only recently has my life started to sort of level out, and like Icke says, the change from being 'asleep' to being awake can literally tear your life apart, i know it did for me, for over 12 months, but it certainly feels brilliant to come out of the other side 'awake' and without all those burning questions i've had all my life....
Nothing comes easy....! And all this on top of NORMAL life....what can i say!....I'm sure we'll all 'get there in the end' and feel "reborn again"...I'm getting there :)

[richmick]

No probs, I know what you're saying...I've had an 'up and down' time of it these last couple of years myself! Only recently has my life started to sort of level out, and like Icke says, the change from being 'asleep' to being awake can literally tear your life apart, i know it did for me, for over 12 months, but it certainly feels brilliant to come out of the other side 'awake' and without all those burning questions i've had all my life....
Nothing comes easy....! And all this on top of NORMAL life....what can i say!....I'm sure we'll all 'get there in the end' and feel "reborn again"...I'm getting there :)


I'm reaching for a better life, i'm off work at the moment after experiencing, what the doctors diagnosed. as a breakdown. So, yeah it's been tough, but i'm not feeling sorry for myself, i believe sometimes we have to break maybe, to find a new path. Life can be like that, if fear holds us back from doing something we really need, then sometimes something else creates chaos in our lives, breaking us away from the old life and habits, and in that tornado of chaos, we seek the truth, because little else matters when we feel all else is lost, and a new road is discovered. No ordinary moments.

[richmick]

I have meditated for about 2 years now, not every day, but i have used crystals for 3 years and been into 'conspiracy stuff' since around 1999, and i think 'enlightenment' does affect the appearance of the aura in some way, it must do due to all the increased energy which people who meditate and use crystals have in their aura.
Maybe they act as a beacon in some way to all entities on this 'lower 4th' or 'neutral zone' and even higher dimensions, both good and bad entities may be able to see it. I bet theres information about that on the net too, but i havent looked into it much.
i wouldnt let it put you off meditating or 'breaking through the veil'...it definately wont put me off anyway, in fact it makes me want to go higher, and show even less fear next time this happens again (if it ever does, which i hope it doesnt haha)
onward and upward i say ! fearless !


Onwards and upwards indeed. I haven't given up meditation. Sometimes i get freaked out. It's like the battle is within, as it always was. The eyes i see, good and bad, like the battle for our hearts and minds is within, other forces reaching within us trying to guide us to truth, or create fear and distraction. what a journey.

[21_12_2012]

I'm reaching for a better life, i'm off work at the moment after experiencing, what the doctors diagnosed. as a breakdown. So, yeah it's been tough, but i'm not feeling sorry for myself, i believe sometimes we have to break maybe, to find a new path. Life can be like that, if fear holds us back from doing something we really need, then sometimes something else creates chaos in our lives, breaking us away from the old life and habits, and in that tornado of chaos, we seek the truth, because little else matters when we feel all else is lost, and a new road is discovered. No ordinary moments.


I totally agree, and I'm sure you'll feel better than ever...VERY soon !

Looks like this forum came around at the right time, theres LOTS of people in our situations, who need basically to discuss things and to prove to ourselves that we're not actually 'losing it' we're 'finding it'...that's the way i see it anyway
All the best mate, I'm sure I'll catch you on here again soon haha

[richmick]

I totally agree, and I'm sure you'll feel better than ever...VERY soon !

Looks like this forum came around at the right time, theres LOTS of people in our situations, who need basically to discuss things and to prove to ourselves that we're not actually 'losing it' we're 'finding it'...that's the way i see it anyway
All the best mate, I'm sure I'll catch you on here again soon haha


Cheers mate, all the best to you and yours. I'm sure we are all on slightly different paths, leading to the same destination. namaste:)

[21_12_2012]

Cheers mate, all the best to you and yours. I'm sure we are all on slightly different paths, leading to the same destination. namaste:)

Definately ! We'll all get there in the end.

[i_am]

Also, i don't know if this is relevant, but the dimensional shift in 2012 is supposed to happen at 11.11 am on 21st december 2012 !
Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not !

I think it is relevant. And if you add 21-12-2012 it comes to....tada....11. There are many significant dates that add up to 11. The eclipse in 1999 was at 11:09 (11) on 11-08-1999 (=38-which comes down to 11).

The Armistice to end World War 1 was precisely the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. There are many more that I can't recall off the top of my head.

I have been seeing the 11:11 phenomena for probably close to ten years now, as has another member of my family. Someone once said it was a sign that you were on the right path. I hope so :)

There is much differing information on the net regarding this subject but I rather think that it the opening of the gates of consciousness.

[21_12_2012]

There is much differing information on the net regarding this subject but I rather think that it the opening of the gates of consciousness.

Well said !...i couldn't have put it better myself !

[purple is a fruit]

I think it is relevant. And if you add 21-12-2012 it comes to....tada....11. There are many significant dates that add up to 11. The eclipse in 1999 was at 11:09 (11) on 11-08-1999 (=38-which comes down to 11).

The Armistice to end World War 1 was precisely the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. There are many more that I can't recall off the top of my head.

I have been seeing the 11:11 phenomena for probably close to ten years now, as has another member of my family. Someone once said it was a sign that you were on the right path. I hope so :)

There is much differing information on the net regarding this subject but I rather think that it the opening of the gates of consciousness.

Hi, i am an 11:11er also as well as 12:12,222,333,444 etc
It will drive you nuts if you look to deep!:eek:

It's simply I feel a wake up call. The numbers mean differing things, and will apply differently to each individual. No angels, no midwayers, none of that, i don't feel.
If you think that seeing 11:11 means a certain thing to you, then that is the reality you will create around it. When i see 11:11 I always find a very synchronistic event is attached to it. Time is not as we percieve it. Perhaps these digital clues (also happens on number plates, signs etc) are just us giving us a clue or message?
Numbers are also a manipulation tool used by the powers at be and they hold a vibration as with everyting. There is no coincidence that 911 etc have those numbers surrounding them. And why rituals are always attached to certain dates/times. A lot to ponder on this subject matter.

[21_12_2012]

A lot to ponder on this subject matter.

A VERY LOT...

[i_am]

Hi, i am an 11:11er also as well as 12:12,222,333,444 etc
It will drive you nuts if you look to deep!:eek:

It's simply I feel a wake up call. The numbers mean differing things, and will apply differently to each individual. No angels, no midwayers, none of that, i don't feel.
If you think that seeing 11:11 means a certain thing to you, then that is the reality you will create around it. When i see 11:11 I always find a very synchronistic event is attached to it. Time is not as we percieve it. Perhaps these digital clues (also happens on number plates, signs etc) are just us giving us a clue or message?
Numbers are also a manipulation tool used by the powers at be and they hold a vibration as with everyting. There is no coincidence that 911 etc have those numbers surrounding them. And why rituals are always attached to certain dates/times. A lot to ponder on this subject matter.


Ha! It can all drive you nuts to start with :p After 10 years of seeing 11:11 everywhere, I just smile to myself and acknolwedge. I have noticed synchronisty in a lot of things but not with the numbers (but that is just me). Is it us giving us a clue? Since we are all infinite consciousness, I guess that would be the case.

As you say, it is all vibration and that is why THEY are obsessed with certain dates and numbers.

[purple is a fruit]

nice to meet you! A QLD'er!! me too, not too far up the bruce infact :)

[i_am]

nice to meet you! A QLD'er!! me too, not too far up the bruce infact :)


True Story?

I used to live on the Sunshine Coast but moved to Brisbane a few years ago. My first conscious awakenings happened at The Coast but then I felt the energy shift (for me) and moved on.

[burkinalovefaso]

I have been seeing 11:11 12:12 and 9:11 for many many years way too randomly !!

[drgonzo]

Hey, 21_12_2012 and richmick. I just read your conversation and I've got to say it was very intresting.

I don't want to come across the wrong way and I'm not making any assumptions about you guys or the subject matter (anything is possible) but I can't help but express my strange perception of your dialogue. It was almost as if some strange movie interfaced with it. I was taken aback, thousands of years, into an ancient time, a different place.
There stood two men, and oh did they ponder. For the sun graced the sky and each day brought new light to them, only to fade again as the moon lit the young evening.

"But what is this? What brings this light to us?" asks the man to his friend.
"My brother, it is the spirit of our ancestors ascended that lights the day"
"And what of the night?"
"It is the eye of a great beast of the heavens"

And so this wisdom spread to all the men of the tribe, valued as wise knowledge.

I make no claim to if their knowledge was correct or not, but it bears understanding that we of the current day would likely accept other beliefs about the nature of the sun and moon. What is the truth, I can not say. But I question what your true opinion of this matter is. I wonder if you accept the scientific explanation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Sun%2C_Earth_size_comparison_labeled.jpg

Is that a star? Is it the spirit of our ancestors? Both? Neither?

I'm not quite sure if those are rhetorical questions or not, they could go both ways I suppose, I'll leave that for you to decide.

I'd like to share with you another story in a more comtemporary setting.

Two men sat talking.
"This morning I woke, but my body moved not. Fear over took me as I lay there in shock. A shadow so menacing, black fear itself, loomed over my shoulder casting cold doubt. But I strengthened my mind and I focused my will. I broke through the chains of the evil, dark chill.
The other replied.
"To me this has happened, much more than one time. Paralyzed I wake, evil spirits behind. To break free I struggle, in due time I succeed. With crystals of power I ward off this dark creed."
Not too far away in a dimly lit corner a man overheard and rose to walk over.
"I do beg your pardon, I mean not to disgress, but such things have happened and I must interject. At times I have woken and found myself frozen, feeling unable to breath or move. I have seen strange things, most out of this world, surely not understood. But given the question I sought out the answer and to this something loomed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

A quick review of that will afford you a scientific explanation for quite a bit of the occurences you detailed. But I'm not making any claims to believe it. For all I know two scientists sat there trying to figure out why it happened and came up with the idea much the same way you did yours.

Me? I don't like to have opinions on these things. It has happened to me twice, and though I had no knowledge of what it was the first time, it never occured to me to be paranormal, though I don't know why since it seems like it could be very easily construed as a paraonormal phenomenon.

But this isn't about my opinion, I'm just offering you up some other information, then you can decide how you want to answer this question, if at all.

But on another point I feel the need to express myself once more, and again I mean to assume nothing by this, it is just an extension of my current thoughts and perceptions, be they flawed or not.

I see constant references to spirits, crystals, vibrations, numbers, dark forces, light forces, and on and on. Yet fundamental to all these beliefs is the fact that every single one of them does not exist. They are all illusions. This is a metaphor for how I see it.

A 9/11 truth guy sees some average joe, looks at him and thinks: "damn this poor guys so focused on his job and collection of antique codpieces that he can't see what his goverment is really doing."

A person on this forum sees a 9/11 truth guy and says "hmm, well that guys right about some things, but hes so focused on just the conspiracy that he doesn't get the bigger picture."

I see you and this is what I have to say:

While spirits, crystals, vibrations, numbers, dark forces, light forces, ect. may all be real to you, they are not above the game. They are still part of it, albeit on a slighty different level. If we are to believe in oneness, in the infinite, there can be nothing else. I believe david has a book called "Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion. That includes spirits, it iincludes numbers, it includes vibrations, all of it.

If you are looking for truth, to escape the game, you must realize this, however if it is your ambition to continue playing, to explore these toys and tools that the game provides you with, then by all means continue with your focus on these things.

That's all, again sorry if any of this came across as harsh, I mean't it all in the most loving manner. :D

[21_12_2012]

Hey, 21_12_2012 and richmick. I just read your conversation and I've got to say it was very intresting.

I don't want to come across the wrong way and I'm not making any assumptions about you guys or the subject matter (anything is possible) but I can't help but express my strange perception of your dialogue. It was almost as if some strange movie interfaced with it. I was taken aback, thousands of years, into an ancient time, a different place.
There stood two men, and oh did they ponder. For the sun graced the sky and each day brought new light to them, only to fade again as the moon lit the young evening.

"But what is this? What brings this light to us?" asks the man to his friend.
"My brother, it is the spirit of our ancestors ascended that lights the day"
"And what of the night?"
"It is the eye of a great beast of the heavens"

And so this wisdom spread to all the men of the tribe, valued as wise knowledge.

I make no claim to if their knowledge was correct or not, but it bears understanding that we of the current day would likely accept other beliefs about the nature of the sun and moon. What is the truth, I can not say. But I question what your true opinion of this matter is. I wonder if you accept the scientific explanation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Sun%2C_Earth_size_comparison_labeled.jpg

Is that a star? Is it the spirit of our ancestors? Both? Neither?

I'm not quite sure if those are rhetorical questions or not, they could go both ways I suppose, I'll leave that for you to decide.

I'd like to share with you another story in a more comtemporary setting.

Two men sat talking.
"This morning I woke, but my body moved not. Fear over took me as I lay there in shock. A shadow so menacing, black fear itself, loomed over my shoulder casting cold doubt. But I strengthened my mind and I focused my will. I broke through the chains of the evil, dark chill.
The other replied.
"To me this has happened, much more than one time. Paralyzed I wake, evil spirits behind. To break free I struggle, in due time I succeed. With crystals of power I ward off this dark creed."
Not too far away in a dimly lit corner a man overheard and rose to walk over.
"I do beg your pardon, I mean not to disgress, but such things have happened and I must interject. At times I have woken and found myself frozen, feeling unable to breath or move. I have seen strange things, most out of this world, surely not understood. But given the question I sought out the answer and to this something loomed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

A quick review of that will afford you a scientific explanation for quite a bit of the occurences you detailed. But I'm not making any claims to believe it. For all I know two scientists sat there trying to figure out why it happened and came up with the idea much the same way you did yours.

Me? I don't like to have opinions on these things. It has happened to me twice, and though I had no knowledge of what it was the first time, it never occured to me to be paranormal, though I don't know why since it seems like it could be very easily construed as a paraonormal phenomenon.

But this isn't about my opinion, I'm just offering you up some other information, then you can decide how you want to answer this question, if at all.

But on another point I feel the need to express myself once more, and again I mean to assume nothing by this, it is just an extension of my current thoughts and perceptions, be they flawed or not.

I see constant references to spirits, crystals, vibrations, numbers, dark forces, light forces, and on and on. Yet fundamental to all these beliefs is the fact that every single one of them does not exist. They are all illusions. This is a metaphor for how I see it.

A 9/11 truth guy sees some average joe, looks at him and thinks: "damn this poor guys so focused on his job and collection of antique codpieces that he can't see what his goverment is really doing."

A person on this forum sees a 9/11 truth guy and says "hmm, well that guys right about some things, but hes so focused on just the conspiracy that he doesn't get the bigger picture."

I see you and this is what I have to say:

While spirits, crystals, vibrations, numbers, dark forces, light forces, ect. may all be real to you, they are not above the game. They are still part of it, albeit on a slighty different level. If we are to believe in oneness, in the infinite, there can be nothing else. I believe david has a book called "Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion. That includes spirits, it iincludes numbers, it includes vibrations, all of it.

If you are looking for truth, to escape the game, you must realize this, however if it is your ambition to continue playing, to explore these toys and tools that the game provides you with, then by all means continue with your focus on these things.

That's all, again sorry if any of this came across as harsh, I mean't it all in the most loving manner. :D

haha what a brilliant post !
The voice of reason ! Thanks for the links, definately made me think about my 'experiences' from other angles. And. as always, you are right....we are above whatever it was that occured (paranormal or not) if we CHOOSE to disconnect from it.
It could very well be sleep paralysis indeed, although this would be a first for me, as i can't say i have ever experienced this before. It was initially a very panicky feeling when i first woke up, and even though i do get like that during nightmares, it was like a nightmare happening in waking life, and a feeling of 'evil' about the whole thing.
But, i managed to rise above it by letting go of fear (luckily) and if it happens again sometime, i am confident i can do the same again, whether it was 'real' or 'not real' haha (nothings real!)
Anyway, thanks again for the info and the post....and I'm glad we entertained you with our posts about it all ! haha

[richmick]

haha what a brilliant post !
The voice of reason ! Thanks for the links, definately made me think about my 'experiences' from other angles. And. as always, you are right....we are above whatever it was that occured (paranormal or not) if we CHOOSE to disconnect from it.
It could very well be sleep paralysis indeed, although this would be a first for me, as i can't say i have ever experienced this before. It was initially a very panicky feeling when i first woke up, and even though i do get like that during nightmares, it was like a nightmare happening in waking life, and a feeling of 'evil' about the whole thing.
But, i managed to rise above it by letting go of fear (luckily) and if it happens again sometime, i am confident i can do the same again, whether it was 'real' or 'not real' haha (nothings real!)
Anyway, thanks again for the info and the post....and I'm glad we entertained you with our posts about it all ! haha


Very interesting post DRGONZO. What i'd like to say here, is scientists i believe, use 99% guesswork, when they are trying to label something they dont understand. Everything needs to be labelled, put in a box. A scientist believes only in logic thought forms, things must remain inside the parameters of 5 sense reality, they would never venture further. If they concluded these experiences, were in fact paranormal, they would be struck off, no one would employ them, they would be concidered crackpots. So they remain inside the boundaries, using 5 sense reality logic, to quantify an experience into something that must make sense to them, regardless if its mainly guesswork. That's my take on scientists. Now since these guys and girls have a few letters after their name, because they have successfully negotiated the indoctrination machine, people can be in awe of them. 'Well it must be true marg, that big scientist fella said so, and he's all educated and knowledgable and stuff'. This is how we have been conditioned, to believe them, whilst their masters, the elite, perform sacrificial rituals to moloch, and summon demonic entities. So the masters use ritual, magic, sacrifice etc, whilst telling the minions there is so such thing, it's all twoddle, the rantings of the deluded, whilst they themselves do occult ceremony. What should that tell us?.. The truth is hidden, always was.

My experiences, and others like me, are being fobbed off of some rational 5 sense reality occurance, because the scientists say so, whilst their masters indulge in the occult. lol..crazy i know.

When i meditate, i see closed eyes, serene, connecting, but i also see evil eyes, menacing, watchful..do i know what is happening, no, not really, but im not asleep in meditation, but i bet scientists could label this too.

it is what iit is for now. I dont have the answers for you, but for myself, i have feelings ofwhat it could be. I'll live with that knowing, as we all have this knowing, but are afraid to believe in ourselves and our judgement..relying on the establishment to constantly guide us, to nowhere.

Thankyou for the post, it was very interesting indeed;)

[21_12_2012]

My experiences, and others like me, are being fobbed off of some rational 5 sense reality occurance, because the scientists say so, whilst their masters indulge in the occult.

Well said.

[roxanna]

Well to all of you interesting posts indeed! Richmick I tend to agree with you in that the important thing is trusting ones self first and knowing in their hearts that what they are experiencing is real. As for the paralis you were speaking of, well reminded me of my brother when we were kids that happening to him with the spirit or whatever pressing on him. That has never happened to me but the paralis yes and it happens usually when Im about to leave my body. I have a tendency for many years to astral plane and for me I know its real I know the differece between that and a dream. Its a total state of awareness astral is, anyway the point is I know its real so who doesnt believe me well I really dont care, if and when they experience it themselves then they will know, simple as that. Anyway bless

[21_12_2012]

Well to all of you interesting posts indeed! Richmick I tend to agree with you in that the important thing is trusting ones self first and knowing in their hearts that what they are experiencing is real. As for the paralis you were speaking of, well reminded me of my brother when we were kids that happening to him with the spirit or whatever pressing on him. That has never happened to me but the paralis yes and it happens usually when Im about to leave my body. I have a tendency for many years to astral plane and for me I know its real I know the differece between that and a dream. Its a total state of awareness astral is, anyway the point is I know its real so who doesnt believe me well I really dont care, if and when they experience it themselves then they will know, simple as that. Anyway bless

It could well have been me astral-travelling. I have never been able to do this voluntarily in my life, maybe it is starting to happen now. But, i distinctly remember feeling an 'evil' presence and from what i could tell, it was trying to get into my body, and was partly in my chest.
Maybe this was part of a dream, but i was definately awake so it is confusing to understand what it was. But i did let out a massive gasp when 'it' finally popped out and left. In fact i think i shouted as well.
Who knows ! I might find the answer next time it happens (if it ever does)

[roxanna]

It could well have been me astral-travelling. I have never been able to do this voluntarily in my life, maybe it is starting to happen now. But, i distinctly remember feeling an 'evil' presence and from what i could tell, it was trying to get into my body, and was partly in my chest.
Maybe this was part of a dream, but i was definately awake so it is confusing to understand what it was. But i did let out a massive gasp when 'it' finally popped out and left. In fact i think i shouted as well.
Who knows ! I might find the answer next time it happens (if it ever does)

Hey there, well In my opinion it wasnt astral traveling (you didnt go anywhere or actually leave your body), your case has a sinister aspect, in my astral travels I have gone places and sensed an evil presense and inmediately returned to my body. So they are out there. I think in your case you were probably sleeping but woke upon sensing this presence over you and as you woke so quickly you were stuck in that state between the astral and physical which would explain the parasis. I experience that paralis right before the moment of "lift of" out of my body. Its not very comfortable but doesnt bother me as what Im doing is of my own will (sometimes more often then not it just happens usually in times of stress, as if i need a breather or something, I take advantage of it though and do experiments and the like) or because Im not afraid of it (not implying you are, your case a very different story the only link is the paralis). I do think you are on the verge of actually experiencing it and I advise you read as much as you can so to be prepared for it and ultimately enjoy the gift. Anyway cheers and I hope Ive been helpful. And it is just my hypothesis. Still I think one to consider. Bless

[geospirit]

I've been reading that the 11:11's and other repeating numbers are Activation Codes for our DNA,
They are our blueprinted wakeup calls for Ascension.
All is as it should be and all is good.
And yes, if you do see these, watch for patterns and discern for yourself.
I started seeing these patterns more and 30 years ago.

As for astral travelling, there is a weird, tense, physically disturbing moment as you leave and re-enter your body if you are in anyway resisting it. I only get it now when I am yanked back to my body by a loud unexpected noise in my physical world! lol

Here's a couple of sites that might help you out:

http://spiritualdove.com/are_you_a_star_seed_.htm

http://www.nvisible.com/1111/1111Doorway.html

[2013]

Yep, it's a freightening experience. I found the feeling of being paralised, exceptionally freightening. I, like you, knew i had to use my mind, to be free of it. I could not move for the life of me. So since it was a shadow, i thought light casts shadows away. That's how my mind was working. Now, i know this bits going to sound weird, since it was a shadow. My room was only lit by the neon light from a street light, but i swear it was grinning, or my mind felt it was grinning. It's really hard to describe unless you have experienced it. Your right by the way, at the time it happened i was very low, after my relationship had failed, but 11:11 then the shadow appeared, when i was LOW. i do think if they are real and not Haarp, then they feed of the negatively low people, the depressed, or even as you say, those who suffer nightmares.

Holy firkin shnit.The grinning shadow man with no face .I first saw it in broad daylight as a child , when an orange lodge band marched passed in the road next to mine .I was about 6 or 7 years old .Hearing the band i went to investigate .If you know the orange lodge order have people who twirl batons in the air and catch them at the front of the [parade and often have people dressed as william of orange there as well.Anyway i thought the sun was behind the front man dressed in frock coat tricorn hat etc as he threw the baton up He turned slowly to look at me .He was completly black like oil black gold texas tea (sorry beverley hillbillys refrence gives my age away lol)Although he had no features he was grinning malevolently at me,i ran very fast lol.Tried to explain to mum who was a catholic who said oh its just the orange lodge marching .Years later on coming back into my body from an astral projection several occasions i had the same shadowman stood in the corner of the bedroom only this time he was dressed gangster style suit and trilby hat still liquid oil features and same grin .15 years on from that i had a past life regression hypnosis >With some time to spare the hypnotist asked if there was anything in my present life i would like to explore .I mentioned the experience and was taken back .A very good friend of mine who had been brought up protestant in ireland had died a few years previous ,during the session the shadow man turned into him and his body became light as he walked away he said to me it was only a manifestation of your own fear and shadow self.!! Still interesting i have never met or spoken to anyone who has had the same experience thanx 4 sharing that :D

[2013]

people i think we are missing the most important 11 here.

you can see, the numbers all go to 11. Look, right across the board: 11, 11, 11."

Marty: "And most amps go up to 10."

Nigel: "Exactly."

Marty: "Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?"

Nigel: "Well, it's one louder, isn't it?"

This exchange has become so embedded in the mythology of rock that the number 11 now has a separate and instantly accessible meaning. Eddie Van Halen is reputed to be the first rock guitarist to have been inspired by Spinal Tap and request a customised amp with dials going up to 11.

lmao:D :p

[drgonzo]

Very interesting post DRGONZO. What i'd like to say here, is scientists i believe, use 99% guesswork, when they are trying to label something they dont understand. Everything needs to be labelled, put in a box. A scientist believes only in logic thought forms, things must remain inside the parameters of 5 sense reality, they would never venture further. If they concluded these experiences, were in fact paranormal, they would be struck off, no one would employ them, they would be concidered crackpots. So they remain inside the boundaries, using 5 sense reality logic, to quantify an experience into something that must make sense to them, regardless if its mainly guesswork. That's my take on scientists. Now since these guys and girls have a few letters after their name, because they have successfully negotiated the indoctrination machine, people can be in awe of them. 'Well it must be true marg, that big scientist fella said so, and he's all educated and knowledgable and stuff'. This is how we have been conditioned, to believe them, whilst their masters, the elite, perform sacrificial rituals to moloch, and summon demonic entities. So the masters use ritual, magic, sacrifice etc, whilst telling the minions there is so such thing, it's all twoddle, the rantings of the deluded, whilst they themselves do occult ceremony. What should that tell us?.. The truth is hidden, always was.

My experiences, and others like me, are being fobbed off of some rational 5 sense reality occurance, because the scientists say so, whilst their masters indulge in the occult. lol..crazy i know.

When i meditate, i see closed eyes, serene, connecting, but i also see evil eyes, menacing, watchful..do i know what is happening, no, not really, but im not asleep in meditation, but i bet scientists could label this too.

it is what iit is for now. I dont have the answers for you, but for myself, i have feelings ofwhat it could be. I'll live with that knowing, as we all have this knowing, but are afraid to believe in ourselves and our judgement..relying on the establishment to constantly guide us, to nowhere.

Thankyou for the post, it was very interesting indeed;)

I do agree with you on the flaws of science, but it would not be fair to myself to hold them to be greater then that of the paranormal. I believe in neither science nor the paranormal, but hold them to both be equally as plausible, and in many ways very similiar to each other. And while I'm sure there are many scientists who are nothing but tools of the system, there are many more free from it's grasp.

Very often you find a spiritual person and a scientist saying the exact same thing, just using very different words. It is far too easy for a scientist to deal simply in the 5 sense fact and become locked in that mindset, however it is equally as easy for a 'spiritual' person to weave a web of explanations for everything based simply on faith and belief, it's a very thin line between that and religion.

I find belief itself to be one of the most distracting things. The need to HAVE to know that something is true or real. I know absolutely nothing and I readily accept the fact that everything I say could be 100% wrong, in truth there is no way to know (that could be wrong too), yet somehow in the midst of this lack of belief there is a sense of peace. One tends to think we'd be horribly confused and in some form of constant mental anguish without these beliefs, but in my case atleast, it's all very peaceful and joyous. It's almost as if I can see.... I can't go on, words escape me.

[richmick]

I do agree with you on the flaws of science, but it would not be fair to myself to hold them to be greater then that of the paranormal. I believe in neither science nor the paranormal, but hold them to both be equally as plausible, and in many ways very similiar to each other. And while I'm sure there are many scientists who are nothing but tools of the system, there are many more free from it's grasp.

Very often you find a spiritual person and a scientist saying the exact same thing, just using very different words. It is far too easy for a scientist to deal simply in the 5 sense fact and become locked in that mindset, however it is equally as easy for a 'spiritual' person to weave a web of explanations for everything based simply on faith and belief, it's a very thin line between that and religion.

I find belief itself to be one of the most distracting things. The need to HAVE to know that something is true or real. I know absolutely nothing and I readily accept the fact that everything I say could be 100% wrong, in truth there is no way to know (that could be wrong too), yet somehow in the midst of this lack of belief there is a sense of peace. One tends to think we'd be horribly confused and in some form of constant mental anguish without these beliefs, but in my case atleast, it's all very peaceful and joyous. It's almost as if I can see.... I can't go on, words escape me.


In the word universe, i always see the words 'union of verse'. It always reminds me, that we each have our own voice, we each write our own life script, we each have a part in weaving the tapestry of life into something wonderful. But i feel since we have been denied the truth for so long, there is imbalance in all things, since all things are connected through oneness, even the matrix illusion, which could not exist without that, which even it, may have forgotten, namely infinity, infinite love, god, whatever name that suits you. I feel we have been duped into giving our power away to very dark forces, and now find ourselves living an artificial life. When i was a boy, i used to say to my friends, it was never ment to be like this, something is wrong with this world...of course my friends thought i was barmy, but i always remembered that.

I guess what i'm saying, is to truly be free, we need to feel/think for ourselves and stop allowing others (the establishment) to think for us. If something feels true to you, then it is truth, but your truth maybe different to mine, but both equal as a TRUTH. As ive said before, we are on different roads leading to the same destination. But i will say this, if we keep allowing doubt in, because a scientist, or a politician, or even a friend scorns us, laughs at our experiences, or puts us down and in our place (governments) then basically we will continue to be slaves to the demi gods. We are the answers to our questions, but we have forgotten how to believe in what we intuitively know to be truth, the infinite knowing within.

A choir has many voices and harmonies, that produce a rich resonance and enchanting music. A union of sound, that's how it should have been. Each voice beautiful in its conception. They, the illuminatti, freemasons, jesuits, religion, stole our voices, i think it's time we took them back.

[roxanna]

It could well have been me astral-travelling. I have never been able to do this voluntarily in my life, maybe it is starting to happen now. But, i distinctly remember feeling an 'evil' presence and from what i could tell, it was trying to get into my body, and was partly in my chest.
Maybe this was part of a dream, but i was definately awake so it is confusing to understand what it was. But i did let out a massive gasp when 'it' finally popped out and left. In fact i think i shouted as well.
Who knows ! I might find the answer next time it happens (if it ever does)

In the word universe, i always see the words 'union of verse'. It always reminds me, that we each have our own voice, we each write our own life script, we each have a part in weaving the tapestry of life into something wonderful. But i feel since we have been denied the truth for so long, there is imbalance in all things, since all things are connected through oneness, even the matrix illusion, which could not exist without that, which even it, may have forgotten, namely infinity, infinite love, god, whatever name that suits you. I feel we have been duped into giving our power away to very dark forces, and now find ourselves living an artificial life. When i was a boy, i used to say to my friends, it was never ment to be like this, something is wrong with this world...of course my friends thought i was barmy, but i always remembered that.

I guess what i'm saying, is to truly be free, we need to feel/think for ourselves and stop allowing others (the establishment) to think for us. If something feels true to you, then it is truth, but your truth maybe different to mine, but both equal as a TRUTH. As ive said before, we are on different roads leading to the same destination. But i will say this, if we keep allowing doubt in, because a scientist, or a politician, or even a friend scorns us, laughs at our experiences, or puts us down and in our place (governments) then basically we will continue to be slaves to the demi gods. We are the answers to our questions, but we have forgotten how to believe in what we intuitively know to be truth, the infinite knowing within.

A choir has many voices and harmonies, that produce a rich resonance and enchanting music. A union of sound, that's how it should have been. Each voice beautiful in its conception. They, the illuminatti, freemasons, jesuits, religion, stole our voices, i think it's time we took them back.

So well said!!!!

[roxanna]

he he sorry i got in another quote in there not intended

[little_wolf]

bounce

[annabelle]

bounce the bounce !:D

[21_12_2012]

Hey there, well In my opinion it wasnt astral traveling (you didnt go anywhere or actually leave your body), your case has a sinister aspect, in my astral travels I have gone places and sensed an evil presense and inmediately returned to my body. So they are out there. I think in your case you were probably sleeping but woke upon sensing this presence over you and as you woke so quickly you were stuck in that state between the astral and physical which would explain the parasis. I experience that paralis right before the moment of "lift of" out of my body. Its not very comfortable but doesnt bother me as what Im doing is of my own will (sometimes more often then not it just happens usually in times of stress, as if i need a breather or something, I take advantage of it though and do experiments and the like) or because Im not afraid of it (not implying you are, your case a very different story the only link is the paralis). I do think you are on the verge of actually experiencing it and I advise you read as much as you can so to be prepared for it and ultimately enjoy the gift. Anyway cheers and I hope Ive been helpful. And it is just my hypothesis. Still I think one to consider. Bless

Interesting info, cheers for that. Stuck between 'planes'..that sounds about right....I feel like that in 'normal life' too, never mind when I'm in bed ! haa
It would be good if i am one verge of being able to 'astral travel at will'...always been fascinated in that...have used crystals for the past 3 years, have a nice collection...maybe they have assisted in 'increasing my vibration'..along with the bits of meditation i've been doing..

[roxanna]

2012, Interesting about the crystals, Im sort of skeptical but then that comes from not knowing much about them. Anything of interest that you can share with me on the use of crystals? I can and will look them up on the net but anything from a personal view of yours, experience that you could share Id enjoy hearing it. Thank you. Cheers

[21_12_2012]

2012, Interesting about the crystals, Im sort of skeptical but then that comes from not knowing much about them. Anything of interest that you can share with me on the use of crystals? I can and will look them up on the net but anything from a personal view of yours, experience that you could share Id enjoy hearing it. Thank you. Cheers

ooo big subject again !
I could write pages about it, but, because I am lazy I will just write a bit about the basics.

I started off buying the main crystals which can help to clean the aura and to energise you. The main ones are:- clear quartz, amethyst, citrine, rose quartz, jade, obsidian (black, snowflake), azurite, moldavite, malachite (ooo i could go on but they're kind of the basic ones)
.....ermm...i started off wearing them on pendants/necklaces, or in my pocket...and they do generally make you feel 'cleaner' energy-wise...nothing dramatic, it's a progressive thing i think...they work with your thoughts...some crystals absorb negative energy from the aura and various chakras, some crystals can be 'programmed' by thoughts. Some are protective...from psychic attack...and from absorbing negative energies.
Sleeping with them under your pillow can result in MAD dreams, some good, some vivid (i mean VERY vivid ! ), and some scary !
It is best to experiment with various crystals under the pillow. Clear quartz is not advisable for sleeping, it doesnt allow normal deep sleep, high energy crystals are best used during the daytime.
Theres an excellent book on them by Judy Hall called "the crystal bible' which has all the main crystals in and all their properties etc.
Clear quartz is a good 'all-rounder' and it does many things.
It is a big subject, and crystals have different effects with different people. It's a personal thing really. What works for me might be different for someone else if you know what i mean.

[seamus]

2012, Interesting about the crystals, Im sort of skeptical but then that comes from not knowing much about them. Anything of interest that you can share with me on the use of crystals? I can and will look them up on the net but anything from a personal view of yours, experience that you could share Id enjoy hearing it. Thank you. Cheers

There's a forum, warriormatrix, which talks a lot about "orgonite", which is a resin/metal/crystal mixture that even a dulled-down sod as I can feel has a sparkly, prickly energy. It supposedly transmutes "deadly orgone" energy, or DOR, to healthy orgone. For info on orgone, read up on wilhelm reich. The group talks a lot about crystals as well, and that whole realm is like, wow man. :D

I for one find it puzzling that David doesn't talk about Reich at all. Or at least he hasn't in the stuff I have seen/heard/read so far.

regards,

s

oh yeah forgot... I see 5:15 (makes me think of the Who song) and 4:44 a lot. There was a Bjork song I used to listen to which was exactly 4:44 long.

[21_12_2012]

There's a forum, warriormatrix, which talks a lot about "orgonite", which is a resin/metal/crystal mixture that even a dulled-down sod as I can feel has a sparkly, prickly energy. It supposedly transmutes "deadly orgone" energy, or DOR, to healthy orgone. For info on orgone, read up on wilhelm reich. The group talks a lot about crystals as well, and that whole realm is like, wow man. :D

Cheers, that sounds interesting, I will check that out.

[21_12_2012]

There's a forum, warriormatrix, which talks a lot about "orgonite", which is a resin/metal/crystal mixture that even a dulled-down sod as I can feel has a sparkly, prickly energy. It supposedly transmutes "deadly orgone" energy, or DOR, to healthy orgone. For info on orgone, read up on wilhelm reich. The group talks a lot about crystals as well, and that whole realm is like, wow man. :D

I for one find it puzzling that David doesn't talk about Reich at all. Or at least he hasn't in the stuff I have seen/heard/read so far.

I just checked 'orgonite' out for a couple of hours...i didn't even know about this...it's VERY interesting.
I thought it was the name of a crystal that I hadn't heard of, but no, like you say it's just rough bits of quartz (and sometimes herkimer and other crystal) mixed with metal/iron shavings in a resin.
Amazed how some of these can actually affect energy up to 45 miles in all directions, that's wicked stuff.
Apparently people are making these things and painting them camouflage colours and going around the USA putting them in 'hotspots' like near mobile phone transmitters and pylons and stuff.....top stuff.
I am also, like you say, surprised to not have heard Icke mention anything about this.
They cost next to nothing to make, and we could all be living in positive energy, and helping the environment...
I am seriously going to make a few of these anyway.

Thanks for the info anyway, appreciated.

[seamus]

I'm starting a new thread in General about it. There are orgonite freebies!

s

[21_12_2012]

I'm starting a new thread in General about it. There are orgonite freebies!

Good stuff, will have a look.

[king]

any time i am drink {like now} i see double
so, i see now 20203030

does that mean anything?

[seamus]

I was just listening to a recorded Coast to Coast AM with George Noory. Usually he's too soft for me, but I was looking for info on steve quayle (aliens and angels) and he was on on November 9, 2006. Okay so I'm listening along and George starts introducing this other guy, Johnny Rose, a Unification Church (Rev Moon) guy, and GET THIS: one of the first things he mentions about Johnny is that he and another person (susan kilnick) "created a global mass consciousness project called the 11:11 oneness minute" this is a "daily worldwide meditation designed to remind all of us to pause for a minute every day to acknowledge that we're all in this together."

yeeeooh

that's a little synchronistic.

Now I am even less sure of this oneness stuff. After seeing the photos of Moon being coronated Messiah in the Capitol Building (google for moon messiah capitol), I know this can't be good. Maybe Moon and the pope are going to get it together...

weirdness,

oh yeah, you can get downloads of the show here. the segment i am talking about is in the first hour, starting at 8 minutes.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/11/09.html

s

update: i just found out that downloads are member only. I have a complete recording of that night's show got from a friend (including commercials) so if any want to share PM me.

[2013]

I was just listening to a recorded Coast to Coast AM with George Noory. Usually he's too soft for me, but I was looking for info on steve quayle (aliens and angels) and he was on on November 9, 2006. Okay so I'm listening along and George starts introducing this other guy, Johnny Rose, a Unification Church (Rev Moon) guy, and GET THIS: one of the first things he mentions about Johnny is that he and another person (susan kilnick) "created a global mass consciousness project called the 11:11 oneness minute" this is a "daily worldwide meditation designed to remind all of us to pause for a minute every day to acknowledge that we're all in this together."

yeeeooh

that's a little synchronistic.

Now I am even less sure of this oneness stuff. After seeing the photos of Moon being coronated Messiah in the Capitol Building (google for moon messiah capitol), I know this can't be good. Maybe Moon and the pope are going to get it together...

weirdness,

oh yeah, you can get downloads of the show here. the segment i am talking about is in the first hour, starting at 8 minutes.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/11/09.html

s

update: i just found out that downloads are member only. I have a complete recording of that night's show got from a friend (including commercials) so if any want to share PM me.

Yeah but maybe knowing about the 11.11 and not being in control of it , the best way of dealing with it is to claim you created it in the first place ?Fear can do that 2 people ! just because someone says something doesnt make it true , in wich case you can disregard this post lol .:D

[lisaw]

Hi my partner started seeing 11.11 a few months back, and then i did, (not on purpose mind), but a few years ago my partner had to have a major operation which saved his life and years back before that he had a few near misses i have always said he has a gurdian angel watching him, or he has nine lives like a cat, then i read up about why people see 11.11 and it shocked me. He once had old hag syndrome, i believe its called, and has dreams of the future, and sometimes he says things, not really thinking about it and they happen, i know most of us do but i do tell him to watch what he says as he could be jokingly saying something and with in the day or the next it has happened, and its not always good, though once we won £40 on the lottery, just a shame we played it on a wednesday and not a saturday.
On another note his sister claims to have been visted/abducted by aliens many years back and she had to visit the men in London as she calls them, and at the time there were many UFO sitings where she lived, and the odd time we see things where we live, so was wondering, could it all be connected, or is it me living in dream land, what ever it is i do believe something is trying to tell us something.
cheers from lisa

[osiris111]

my first born son was born 11.11.97

it meant a lot to me not only the birth but got me out of parades in the army lol

[tgmu]

Does anyone here notice 2222? I have been, and don't know what it means. :confused:

[scatlond]

It doesnt really mean anything I get it a lot and i see it as a calling card.Or just saying hi.

[nimlyn]

Hi my partner started seeing 11.11 a few months back, and then i did, (not on purpose mind), but a few years ago my partner had to have a major operation which saved his life and years back before that he had a few near misses i have always said he has a gurdian angel watching him, or he has nine lives like a cat, then i read up about why people see 11.11 and it shocked me. He once had old hag syndrome, i believe its called, and has dreams of the future, and sometimes he says things, not really thinking about it and they happen, i know most of us do but i do tell him to watch what he says as he could be jokingly saying something and with in the day or the next it has happened, and its not always good, though once we won £40 on the lottery, just a shame we played it on a wednesday and not a saturday.
On another note his sister claims to have been visted/abducted by aliens many years back and she had to visit the men in London as she calls them, and at the time there were many UFO sitings where she lived, and the odd time we see things where we live, so was wondering, could it all be connected, or is it me living in dream land, what ever it is i do believe something is trying to tell us something.
cheers from lisa

Aye! Its them Angels, it is…:)