PDA

View Full Version : So why US didn't attack Iran?


december
26-04-2007, 05:37 PM
April is almost over... and Iran didn't stop building a nuclear power plant.

Any thoughts?...

indigo
26-04-2007, 05:41 PM
Maybe it had something to do with the British hostages being released.:confused: I wonder if Iran knew what was about to happen and took the hostages only to release them the day before the supposed attacks.

december
26-04-2007, 07:31 PM
Maybe it had something to do with the British hostages being released.:confused: I wonder if Iran knew what was about to happen and took the hostages only to release them the day before the supposed attacks.

Hello, neila.
Well, it doesn't really make sense...

First, the USA wanted to bomb Iran's nuclear plan BEFORE the British hostages story.

And second, Iran didn't say that it's going to stop its nuclear program.
So, the question is WHAT stoped the US from striking Iran?


http://www.isis-online.org/images/iran/dg_jan2_2006_ann.jpg

http://web.stratfor.com/images/middleeast/art/12_14_israel_iran_attack_133.jpg

http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=259801

lumukanda
26-04-2007, 07:36 PM
do you want a war? i don't, let's be thankful that they haven't, yet.

timestop24
26-04-2007, 07:37 PM
My guess is its something to do with the leak of attack plans and dates by Russian and Gulf news services. But my bet is still on an attack sometime this year.

december
26-04-2007, 07:44 PM
do you want a war? i don't, let's be thankful that they haven't, yet.

lumukanda, you are a moderator on the official David Icke Forum.
So, why are posting silly comments?

lumukanda
26-04-2007, 07:50 PM
lumukanda, you are a moderator on the official David Icke Forum.
So, why are posting silly comments?

uhm, ok, i fail to see how saying that we should be thankful that innocent civilians are not being slaughtered is a silly comment, but hey, we all see things differently.
i'm inclined to think that the more we talk about the war that is coming, the more energy we give it. make no mistake, i reckon they will attack sooner or later, but asking why they haven't done it yet? thats a silly question.

december
26-04-2007, 08:12 PM
uhm, ok, i fail to see how saying that we should be thankful that innocent civilians are not being slaughtered is a silly comment, but hey, we all see things differently.
i'm inclined to think that the more we talk about the war that is coming, the more energy we give it. make no mistake, i reckon they will attack sooner or later, but asking why they haven't done it yet? thats a silly question.

OK.
Look, lumukanda, here's another guy really wants the war (if one to follow you "logic"):

But my bet is still on an attack sometime this year.

Anyway.... Thank you for posting, lumukanda....... :rolleyes:





My guess is its something to do with the leak of attack plans and dates by Russian and Gulf news services.

Do you think they even care about it? Come on now...
Just think about it... Imagine people in the Pentagon opened the newspapers one day and discovered the big article about the date of attack.

OK....

So what is their reaction?

Are they going to say something like - "Oh... my God!!! People! Look at this!
The Gulf news services made public our date of attack!
Gee!!!

What are we going to do now?"

And then the head of the Pentagon answers:

Well... There is nothing we can do now, guys...
Just cancel the whole operation... And let Iran have their nukes...


See what the Gulf news services can do?

:D

sean
26-04-2007, 08:27 PM
December, what are your thoughts?

king
26-04-2007, 08:45 PM
lumukanda, you are a moderator on the official David Icke Forum.
So, why are posting silly comments?

November... opps, December, what is silly of people being thankful for NOT bombing innocent people?

Since you are so bellicose, why don't you get your Kalashnikov and invade the country of Iran.
And feel free to take your masonic ex-KGB agent turned president (Poo-tine) with you. And, don't forget to invite ex-CIA director Bush and his idiot son to help you with invasion.

better yet, why don't all of you bellicose idiots get together on a small isolated island and play with DU ammo until you destroy each other.

It is sad that you are still doing the same shit as you were doing on other forum; "Russia Good - West Bad".

get a life. (since you are unable to evolve mentally)

timestop24
26-04-2007, 08:47 PM
OK.
Look, lumukanda, here's another guy really wants the war (if one to follow you "logic"):



Anyway.... Thank you for posting, lumukanda....... :rolleyes:






Do you think they even care about it? Come on now...
Just think about it... Imagine people in the Pentagon opened the newspapers one day and discovered the big article about the date of attack.

OK....

So what is their reaction?

Are they going to say something like - "Oh... my God!!! People! Look at this!
The Gulf news services made public our date of attack!
Gee!!!

What are we going to do now?"

And then the head of the Pentagon answers:

Well... There is nothing we can do now, guys...
Just cancel the whole operation... And let Iran have their nukes...


See what the Gulf news services can do?

:D

Well your guess is as good as mine. You have something better?

december
26-04-2007, 08:58 PM
December, what are your thoughts?

Hello, sean.

I will tell my opinion but not right now.
Why not now?
Well....
You see, if I tell you what I know then the discussion of this thread will go into different direction.

I think you agree that US (or those who you call the Illuminati) don't give a damn about public opinion. Right? :) I mean... seriously... Do they really care what some papers write or what people say?

Of course they don't.

The US aircrafts are already there. And people who are on these aircrafts FOLLOW ORDERS and don't base their decisions on newspaper article...

They actually have VERY different mind set.

So, WHAT made them stop?


http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/pics/12371.jpg

11/13/2006 7:00:00 AM GMT

An image grab taken from Al-Alam TV shows a U.S. aircraft carrier cruising in Gulf waters

An Arabic-language Iranian TV station aired video footage of a U.S. aircraft carrier cruising in Gulf waters, AFP news agency reported.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12371

king
26-04-2007, 09:40 PM
we should not give our energy to something that we
do not want to happen.


so, i declare here that Iran war will not occur and i put my energy behind it as much as i put my energy into small group of conscious people with good hearts who will overcome the evil ones.

evil will not triumph, but good will triumph, without a question.

everyday, there are more and more of conscious, free spirited people with love in their hearts, who are truly awakened, and who not only can see the world the way it it is -- but what it could be like.

they are on forefront of the idea, a mind-virus that will spread so quickly when time is ripe. Only those who hang on to old and insane ways will feel that they are loosing something.

and this virus-idea will change the world for the better because my intent is behind it and i am the king of my own intent just like many of other people are beginning to realize or have already realized.
Each of us co-creates, we are the co-creators of what goes on in this third dimension.

everyone could do the same if they can just remember who they are.

this idea that humans can finally be free and just to each other by being true to their own principals based on love is lot more powerful than million of sunburn missiles and all nukes of the world.

that power within all of us that all of us can reconnect with is the answer.

it is reaching for your own center, your spirit, reconnecting with it, becoming and thinking as one.

and once we do so -- we will know that we are part of something incredibly immense and powerful beyond words.

it is like invisible internet that cannot be taken down, because it is interconnected, self-replicating and and self-regenerating. where spirit and mind both work together with all others alike.

that is immensely powerful.

Internet that we use today is a microcosm of this idea.

We can all feel when we connect with someone who not only has similar thoughts with us but who "vibrates" on same level.

that is what happens when 2 similar spirit-minds "connect".

And as many of you already know -- we do not care as much as what nationality or skin-color that other "internet spirit-mind" is because we can just feel the connection.
isn't that great?

as far as i am concerned -- evil ones already have lost
because of their intents that are not based on love, but hate, deception, fear -- all evil intents, and evil is destined for "reset" when it grows in power little too much.

yes, they already lost big times. and all that they do now will be epitaph of their stupidity written on their own graves.

thirdwave
27-04-2007, 12:25 AM
For me its almost like they are trying to tip toe into this war.... people are asuming its going to happen.... is there not meant to be some kind of descusion about weather our country should invade another country??

My feeling is How dare they even think about going into ANOTHER country after the first country they invaded, was lies... Bin Laden was now where to be found and much of the footage as fake... and the Taliban are not wiped out and where not the cause of 9/11..... and then the WOMD in Iraq that was not found after being so vital that we got to it..... and all the inocent people that died because of this and people are asuming they will go into another country and murder more people??

I think people should be on the edge of their seats ready to stand up and put their foot down.....

We have no place in Iran and we have no right to invade them!

if people want to stop terrorisem they need to look at their govenments and their part in it..... its about time people woke up

I also think it will really stretch the forces and they will need to start calling people up.... there is no way in hell I would fight for those evil bastards...

them
27-04-2007, 12:48 AM
So, WHAT made them stop?

I'm not entirely sure. However, Iran is a fine distraction that catches the eye when things are going particularly badly in Iraq, at home or wherever..

I personally don't think the Coalition of the Willing (COW) have any intention of waging aggressive war against Iran.

http://www.parstimes.com/environment/

Anders Lindman
27-04-2007, 01:45 AM
No war against Iran can mean only one thing: that Iran has accepted to replace its Shariah-based banking laws with banking laws based on international standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking

See through global politics, I can.

Anders Lindman
27-04-2007, 03:12 AM
See through global politics, I can.

Or maybe not. If there will be no war against Iran, an alternative explanation could be that the international bankers have begun to lose their power over the U.S. government including the U.S. military, who up till now have been used as a tool for globalization, but who now are beginning to wake up to the fact that the only winners in a war against Iran will be the international bankers who's agenda it is to dismantle the U.S. after having used it (abused it/sucked it dry) for their benefit as David Icke has explained.

cleft_asunder
27-04-2007, 08:30 AM
Or maybe not. If there will be no war against Iran, an alternative explanation could be that the international bankers have begun to lose their power over the U.S. government including the U.S. military, who up till now have been used as a tool for globalization, but who now are beginning to wake up to the fact that the only winners in a war against Iran will be the international bankers who's agenda it is to dismantle the U.S. after having used it (abused it/sucked it dry) for their benefit as David Icke has explained.

Or in a more "spiritual" version, people are waking up to the whole game because of certain... shifts, whatever they may be.

thirdwave
27-04-2007, 11:51 AM
I don't think for a second the US ...well not the US but you know what I mean.... would choose a more peaceful method of getting what they want.... they are quite eager to kill people and to create disharmony... if the War is being held off I would say its because they are facing obstacles ...

I do get the feeling things are not going to plan... that's why we had that pathetic situations with the lies from the hostages where the whole country could see through it.... all these little things to me show a struggle of some kind....

like the above says..... people are getting more awake...even the most ridged stone headed people are more perceptive and this is creating problems for them.... the masses are not as easy to control.... and they are finding it harder than ever to manipulate as they have done.....

this is not a hoo doo story..... its called Evolution.

klinker
27-04-2007, 03:27 PM
Does Russia and/or China not have anything to say about it?

edelweiss pirate
27-04-2007, 03:41 PM
I think we owe the present safety of the world to all the brave people who're speaking out and trying to roll back the NWO....

And to the resilience of the human spirit, despite what fear and horseshit the media throw at us, most people actually do see the shit for what it is...

They just don't know what to do about it...

And King, I really liked your post... you've really got the right idea....

Of course, Iraq is a bad do... maybe we should try a visualisation exercise?

loveemotion
27-04-2007, 05:14 PM
uhm, ok, i fail to see how saying that we should be thankful that innocent civilians are not being slaughtered is a silly comment, but hey, we all see things differently.
i'm inclined to think that the more we talk about the war that is coming, the more energy we give it. make no mistake, i reckon they will attack sooner or later, but asking why they haven't done it yet? thats a silly question.

07.07.2007 probably wil be the date of first attacks..

ho1ogram
27-04-2007, 05:33 PM
Choosing a new reality, believing in our own power as aspects of Oneness and putting our choices into action through distribution of information and discussions like this is what has changed the world. I'm with king et all, seems like there are a few of us manifesting the reality we wish to see.... The Love Iran Thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1987

Although Anders Lindman makes a good point about the bankers.

december
28-04-2007, 09:47 PM
For me its almost like they are trying to tip toe into this war.... people are asuming its going to happen.... is there not meant to be some kind of descusion about weather our country should invade another country??...

In Iran case it is all about the nuclear plant, which can produse Plutonium.
And Plutonium, of course, can be used to make A-bombs.

Come on, thirdwave... You know that. :)


Plutonium (IPA: /ˌpluːˈtəʊniəm/) is a radioactive, metallic chemical element. It has the symbol Pu and the atomic number 94. It is the element used in most modern nuclear weapons. The most important isotope of plutonium is 239Pu, with a half-life of 24,110 years. It can be made from natural uranium and is fissile. The most stable isotope is 244Pu, with a half-life of about 80 million years, long enough to be found in extremely small quantities in nature. In fact, 244Pu is the nucleon-richest atom that naturally occurs in the Earth's crust, albeit in small traces.


Plutonium Bomb

Plutonium-239 is a fissionable isotope and can be used to make a nuclear fission bomb similar to that produced with uranium-235. The bomb which was dropped at Nagasaki was a plutonium bomb.

Not enough Pu-239 exists in nature to make a major weapons supply, but it is easily produced in breeder reactors. In the U.S., there are reactors at Savannah River Plant, S.C., and at Hanford, Washington which are classified as plutonium production reactors. They breed plutonium by surrounding a fission reactor with a uranium-238 "blanket" to make use of the breeding reaction between neutrons and U-238. Once the plutonium is produced, it is easily separated from the other fission products by chemical means, so that less technology is needed to produce a nuclear weapon if you have a breeder reactor. This makes plutonium a greater source of concern for weapons proliferation, because reactors which appear to be just electric power generators can be breeding plutonium for weapons along with the power production.

The type of bomb which was dropped on Nagasaki on August 9, 1945 had been tested at Alamagordo, New Mexico on July 16. It developed from the Manhattan Project after Fermi demonstrated in 1942 that a sustained nuclear chain reaction was possible.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nucene/bomb.html


So, why is it the Illuminati media even stoped talking about Iran's nuclear plant?

By the way, who actually builds that plant?
Iran? Or some other country is building it for them?

december
24-05-2007, 09:20 PM
Could this be the reason - quote: "...where Russians are building the country's first nuclear power plant..."


http://img.rian.ru/images/4296/90/42969098.jpg

Kiriyenko says states cannot be barred from nuclear technology
16:04 | 24/ 05/ 2007



LUXEMBOURG, May 24 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's nuclear chief said Thursday that attempts to deny certain countries access to peaceful nuclear technologies are both immoral and futile.

Russia has consistently supported the right of countries to develop nuclear energy, and has come under criticism from other nuclear powers over its cooperation with Iran,where Russians are building the country's first nuclear power plant.

Sergei Kiriyenko, speaking at an international conference in Luxembourg on preventing nuclear catastrophes, stressed the importance of two unconditional rights: "On the one hand, any country should have access to civilian nuclear energy, and on the other the international community should make sure that security and non-proliferation guarantees are observed."

Trying to stop other countries from developing nuclear power "is becoming impossible, both from a legal and a moral point of view," he said.

At the start of the conference, Kiriyenko read out an address from Russian President Vladimir Putin. The president described the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a cornerstone of international security and stability, and said Moscow had been honoring its disarmament commitments under the treaty.

Putin, who concluded his visit to Vienna earlier Thursday, will attend the Luxembourg conference later in the day.

Kiriyenko also highlighted Russia's decommissioning of its materials for nuclear fission bombs, under its NPT commitments.

The dispute over Iran's nuclear program, which some states believed is geared towards developing nuclear weapons, took a new twist on the weekend when the head of the UN nuclear watchdog publicly admitted that it was too late to force Tehran to fold up its uranium enrichment plans as demanded by the United Nations Security Council, and argued instead for inspection measures to prevent a further expansion of the Iranian nuclear program.

Following his remarks the United States, which has consistently pressed for harsh sanctions against the Islamic Republic, said it would lodge a complaint against ElBaradei, citing concerns that his comments could undermine UN Security Council efforts.

European nations have signaled their backing for Washington's position.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070524/66037764.html



http://img.rian.ru/images/6570/35/65703517.jpg

Russia favors political-diplomatic solution to Iran nuclear issue

24/ 05/ 2007



LUXEMBOURG, May 24 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's president said a political and diplomatic resolution should be found to the Iranian nuclear issue to avoid a deadlock.

Vladimir Putin's statement to journalists after an international nuclear disaster prevention conference in Luxembourg followed the presentation Wednesday of a report by the director general of the UN's nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, saying Iran had ignored UN Security Council Resolution 1747 and was stepping up uranium enrichment.

Putin said: "We should find solutions that would not violate Iran's right to use modern technologies, but would calm the international community's concerns over its possession of nuclear weapons."

U.S. President George W. Bush told a news conference at the White House Thursday he would work with the leaders of Russia and China, which have repeatedly vetoed U.S.-proposed sanctions against Iran, to isolate the regime.

"My view is that we need to strengthen our sanctions regime," Bush told a news conference at the White House. "Of course, I will discuss this issue with Vladimir Putin as well as President Hu Jintao," Bush said.

In the latest show of Iran's defiance, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday his country would under no circumstances stop its nuclear development.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070524/66059115.html

emma royds
24-05-2007, 09:30 PM
do you want a war? i don't, let's be thankful that they haven't, yet.


Yet being the operative word.

december
25-05-2007, 10:14 PM
Moscow says nuclear ties with Iran to continue despite sanctions

25/ 05/ 2007

http://img.rian.ru/images/4942/16/49421674.jpg


MOSCOW, May 25 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's nuclear chief said Friday possible new sanctions against Tehran over its controversial nuclear program will not affect Russian-Iranian cooperation in the nuclear sphere.

Since Iran resumed uranium enrichment in January 2006, the country has been the focus of international concerns, as some Western countries, particularly the U.S., suspect Tehran is pursuing a covert weapons program. But Tehran has consistently claimed it needs nuclear power for civilian power generation and is fully entitled to its own nuclear program.

"The cooperation we currently enjoy has nothing to do with the UN Security Council's requirements," Sergei Kiriyenko said.

He said the construction of the nuclear power plant in Bushehr in the south of Iran does not in any way violate the non-proliferation regime and is not a political but a purely commercial project.

On Wednesday, Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), presented a report that said Iran has continued to ignore the demands of the UN Security Council to halt its uranium enrichment and has continued working on nuclear projects.

The report could trigger a new wave of sanctions against Iran, which will be the third since penalties were first introduced against it in December 2006.

A senior Russian MP said sanctions against Iran are only possible if there is conclusive evidence that it pursues a military nuclear program, but even then they must not involve the use of force.

"Any decisions [with respect to Iran] will only be possible after experts study the [ElBaradei] report," said Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the State Duma International Affairs Committee.

The Iranian president said earlier Friday Tehran will not yield to international pressure and abandon its right to pursue peaceful nuclear technology, adding that UN sanctions against Iran "have brought no result."

"There is no doubt that these sanctions will boomerang on the arrogant powers, as we will soon be able to see," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said.

He said Tehran will ignore any new resolutions against it that the UN Security Council may pass in the future.

On April 19, Ahmadinejad said that Iran had mastered industrial-scale production of nuclear fuel, giving up a research-level program. Recent reports said Tehran was already running 1,600 uranium enrichment centrifuges in its Natanz underground complex.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070525/66095793.html

midwich cuckoo
26-05-2007, 03:32 AM
December/November stop acting like a dick. :)

blane777
26-05-2007, 04:10 AM
Isn't this all just part of the game they play to us all ? Isn't this just a re hash of a scenario that has been played out to us all over the past centuries(of the time that man created)

they want conflict,they want us to hate and in doing so we give them the energy they need to keep this prison going.

why even bother going over this stuff ? It's not relevant !

montag
26-05-2007, 04:25 AM
April is almost over... and Iran didn't stop building a nuclear power plant.

Any thoughts?...
Because the US never had any intention of invading Iran? it's propaganda to take the focus of Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine. IMO Ahmadinejad Irans president is probably controled opposition and working for the loomies.

I've been reading of immenent attack on Iran since June 2005, I'd be surprised if anything comes of it considering the coalition is already over streched in other regions. It's designed to distract us from the actual war happening now in Iraq and the other places I mentioned.

december
26-05-2007, 04:58 AM
December/November stop acting like a dick. :)

Stop dreaming, teenagegirl... ;)


Isn't this all just part of the game they play to us all ? Isn't this just a re hash of a scenario that has been played out to us all over the past centuries(of the time that man created)

Hello again, blane777.
Those who can start a war can care less about playing a game with you or me.
The only goal of todays America is to protect Israel.

Here's what Senator Hollings has siad not very long time ago -
'Iraq was Invaded to Secure Israel,' says Senator Hollings, and
'Everybody Knows It.'

(Source: Remarks by Ernest F. Hollings, May 20, 2004. Congressional Record - Senate, May 20, 2004, pages S5921-S5925.)


Because the US never had any intention of invading Iran? it's propaganda to take the focus of Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine. IMO Ahmadinejad Irans president is probably controled opposition and working for the loomies.

I've been reading of immenent attack on Iran since June 2005, I'd be surprised if anything comes of it considering the coalition is already over streched in other regions. It's designed to distract us from the actual war happening now in Iraq and the other places I mentioned.

US does want to attack Iran to stop that country from getting a nuclear technology.
and I believe the ONLY reason they did not attack is because Iran has Russian missiles:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41588000/jpg/_41588000_rockets-ap-203body.jpg

Missile exports to Iran alarm US

Iran's military plans are a matter of concern to Washington
Washington has asked Moscow to reconsider selling Iran anti-aircraft missiles as the crisis over its nuclear programme continues.
Russia plans to sell Tehran 29 TOR M1 mobile surface-to-air missile defence systems in a deal said to be worth about US $700 million (£392m).

"This is not time for business as usual with the Iranian government," a top US state department official said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4932814.stm

montag
26-05-2007, 05:49 AM
Yes December that too is possible, did you ever read any of the late Joe Vialls articles?

Iran & Syria Armed With Russian S-300 Missiles
http://www.vialls.com/subliminalsuggestion/s_300.html

China Backs Iran Against The Great Satan
http://www.vialls.com/myahudi/greatsatan.html

december
27-05-2007, 12:44 AM
Yes December that too is possible, did you ever read any of the late Joe Vialls articles?

Iran & Syria Armed With Russian S-300 Missiles
http://www.vialls.com/subliminalsuggestion/s_300.html

China Backs Iran Against The Great Satan
http://www.vialls.com/myahudi/greatsatan.html


Yes, I did. But these articles are pretty old, actually...
Sounds like he knows his subject though...

I wonder how did manage to find out about the SS-N-22 Sunburn: :eek: :D

http://www.vialls.com/myahudi/sunburn.html


http://www.mosnews.com/files/10654/s-300%205.jpg

Russia to Supply Belarus with S-300 Air Defense Missiles
10.09.2005

Moscow and Minsk have signed a contract under which Russia will supply Belarus with enough S-300 air defense missile systems to arm one air defense brigade, a Belarusian Defense Ministry source told Interfax on Saturday.

“The missile systems will be of the S-300PS modification,” the source said.

The contract was signed in Minsk on Saturday.

“Under the terms of the contract, the S-300 missile systems will undergo pre-sale service in Russia at the expense of Belarus. Following the service, the missiles will be put on combat alert in the interests of the joint air defense system,” he said.

The process for delivering the air defense systems from Russia to Belarus will begin today, RIA Novosti added.

While transport arrangements are made in the two countries, technical preparation of the air defense systems is being carried out; the transport and setting up of S-300 systems will be carried out by engineering and technical specialists.

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/09/10/belarusmissiles.shtml




Iran seeks S-300 Russian air defense system via Belarus
LONDON — Russia plans to sell Iran the S-300 air and missile defense system through a third country.

Western intelligence sources said Moscow has agreed to an Iranian request for the S-300 in an attempt to improve protection of its air space.

The sources said Russia intends to sell Iran the system through a third country.

"Russia has been trying to sell the S-300 to Iran for at least five years," an intelligence source said. "At first, the Iranians weren't interested. Now, with the threat of a U.S. attack, Teheran is very interested in a strategic air defense system."

http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/2006/04/_iran_seeks_s300_russian_air_d.html

http://www.robertamsterdam.com/putiniran.jpghttp://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2005-02/22/xinsrc_30202022209266742236511.jpg

bicycle
27-05-2007, 12:52 AM
The word from the inside is, if the neo-cons attack iran a lot of big wigs in the military are going to leave as they see it as the start of WW3!:(

december
27-05-2007, 09:38 PM
Iran complies with Bushehr NPP construction terms

27/ 05/ 2007



TEHRAN, May 27 (RIA Novosti) - Iran complies with its obligations under the Bushehr nuclear power project and is prepared to assist Russia in completing the NPP construction, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said Sunday.

The $1-billion project, implemented under the supervision of the UN nuclear watchdog, was threatened with suspension after the Russian contractor, Atomstroyexport, said in February that Tehran had only covered 60% of the required funding by the fourth quarter of 2006, and had completely stopped payment in mid-January.

"We repeatedly told the Russian side that Iran is committed to its obligations under the Bushehr NPP project and is ready to provide Russia assistance in solving possible problems [related to the plant construction]," Hosseini said.

Hosseini also said there were possibly technical problems in the construction of the Bushehr NPP, which would be discussed at meetings between Russian and Iranian experts.

A source in the Russian Nuclear Power Agency said May 25 the construction of the Bushehr NPP had become unprofitable for Russia and the planned talks on the project financing could be cancelled.

The source said Tehran had paid only $20 million since the beginning of the year, although the contract stipulates $25 million monthly payments to complete the project on schedule.

"The project has become unprofitable for us," the source said, adding that the completion of the plant now depends entirely on the Iranian side, and that the key remaining issue is the guaranteed financing for its construction.

Russia's Atomstroyexport is building Bushehr, Iran's first nuclear power plant, under a 1995 agreement in the south of the Islamic Republic, which has been in the focus of international attention over its controversial nuclear research program. Western nations and Israel suspect Tehran of concealing a weapons program, but Iran says it needs to enrich uranium for energy.

The construction of the Bushehr NPP was expected to be completed on July 8, 1999 but the deadline has been revised five times since then.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070527/66155759.html

teslafire
27-05-2007, 09:50 PM
Because the stars aren't aligned yet.

andreadoria
27-05-2007, 11:49 PM
we should not give our energy to something that we
do not want to happen.


so, i declare here that Iran war will not occur and i put my energy behind it as much as i put my energy into small group of conscious people with good hearts who will overcome the evil ones.

evil will not triumph, but good will triumph, without a question.

everyday, there are more and more of conscious, free spirited people with love in their hearts, who are truly awakened, and who not only can see the world the way it it is -- but what it could be like.

they are on forefront of the idea, a mind-virus that will spread so quickly when time is ripe. Only those who hang on to old and insane ways will feel that they are loosing something.

and this virus-idea will change the world for the better because my intent is behind it and i am the king of my own intent just like many of other people are beginning to realize or have already realized.
Each of us co-creates, we are the co-creators of what goes on in this third dimension.

everyone could do the same if they can just remember who they are.

this idea that humans can finally be free and just to each other by being true to their own principals based on love is lot more powerful than million of sunburn missiles and all nukes of the world.

that power within all of us that all of us can reconnect with is the answer.

it is reaching for your own center, your spirit, reconnecting with it, becoming and thinking as one.

and once we do so -- we will know that we are part of something incredibly immense and powerful beyond words.

it is like invisible internet that cannot be taken down, because it is interconnected, self-replicating and and self-regenerating. where spirit and mind both work together with all others alike.

that is immensely powerful.

Internet that we use today is a microcosm of this idea.

We can all feel when we connect with someone who not only has similar thoughts with us but who "vibrates" on same level.

that is what happens when 2 similar spirit-minds "connect".

And as many of you already know -- we do not care as much as what nationality or skin-color that other "internet spirit-mind" is because we can just feel the connection.
isn't that great?

as far as i am concerned -- evil ones already have lost
because of their intents that are not based on love, but hate, deception, fear -- all evil intents, and evil is destined for "reset" when it grows in power little too much.

yes, they already lost big times. and all that they do now will be epitaph of their stupidity written on their own graves.

millions of applauses... i quote every single word of what you've said... The thought it's soo creative a full of love, so i'm in! ;)

december
30-05-2007, 02:55 AM
Because the stars aren't aligned yet.

Do you know what are you talking about, teslafire?

http://www.suomensotilas.fi/nettisotilas/Kuvat/Buk4.jpg

Russia's Buk-M1 Air Defence System Will Defend Iran's Airspace.
Video -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtNpsXrgWs

december
01-06-2007, 05:57 PM
Russia says nuclear fuel can be shipped to Iran's NPP in 3 days

01/ 06/ 2007

NOVOSIBIRSK, June 1 (RIA Novosti) - Fuel for Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant can be shipped from West Siberia within three days, an expert at the Novosibirsk nuclear fuel production facility said Friday.

Russia's Atomstroyexport is building the Bushehr facility, Iran's first nuclear power plant, under a 1995 agreement in the south of the Islamic Republic and is to supply fuel six month prior to the physical launch.

"The fuel is being stored in transport containers and can be sent to the Bushehr NPP within three days after an order," Alexander Ustyugov said.

The $1-billion project, implemented under the supervision of the UN nuclear watchdog, was threatened with suspension after the Russian contractor said in February that Tehran had only covered 60% of the required funding by the fourth quarter of 2006, and had completely stopped payment in mid-January.

A source in the Russian Nuclear Power Agency said last week that Tehran had paid only $20 million since the beginning of the year, although the contract stipulates $25 million monthly payments to complete the project on schedule.

"The project has become unprofitable for us," the source said, adding that the completion of the plant now depends entirely on the Iranian side, and that the key remaining issue is the guaranteed financing for its construction.

The construction of the Bushehr NPP was expected to be completed July 8, 1999, but the deadline has been revised five times since then.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070601/66506801.html



http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40858000/jpg/_40858871_putin.jpg

Presidents Putin and Khatami: Russia is helping Iran build its Bushehr nuclear reactor

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4290161.stm

scuzzelbutt
09-06-2007, 09:16 AM
the reason for the attack on iran / this could well be it......[url]http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

notaslave
09-06-2007, 04:27 PM
Russia says nuclear fuel can be shipped to Iran's NPP in 3 days

01/ 06/ 2007

NOVOSIBIRSK, June 1 (RIA Novosti) - Fuel for Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant can be shipped from West Siberia within three days, an expert at the Novosibirsk nuclear fuel production facility said Friday.

Russia's Atomstroyexport is building the Bushehr facility, Iran's first nuclear power plant, under a 1995 agreement in the south of the Islamic Republic and is to supply fuel six month prior to the physical launch.

"The fuel is being stored in transport containers and can be sent to the Bushehr NPP within three days after an order," Alexander Ustyugov said.

The $1-billion project, implemented under the supervision of the UN nuclear watchdog, was threatened with suspension after the Russian contractor said in February that Tehran had only covered 60% of the required funding by the fourth quarter of 2006, and had completely stopped payment in mid-January.

A source in the Russian Nuclear Power Agency said last week that Tehran had paid only $20 million since the beginning of the year, although the contract stipulates $25 million monthly payments to complete the project on schedule.

"The project has become unprofitable for us," the source said, adding that the completion of the plant now depends entirely on the Iranian side, and that the key remaining issue is the guaranteed financing for its construction.

The construction of the Bushehr NPP was expected to be completed July 8, 1999, but the deadline has been revised five times since then.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070601/66506801.html



http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40858000/jpg/_40858871_putin.jpg

Presidents Putin and Khatami: Russia is helping Iran build its Bushehr nuclear reactor

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4290161.stm

In my opinion this can only be good news. America will not attack if Iran is armed. Iran in my opinion is wise to arm itself to the teeth in the current political climate.

However, war is business so I fully expect the American administration to look elsewhere to wage it.

edelweiss pirate
10-06-2007, 11:39 AM
There's too much resistance to the idea...

I think they were hoping that the British sailors would be held hostage indefinately thus letting the Yanks do an Israel and giving them an excuse to invade...

I also believe there are some players who don't want this to happen and are blocking the Illuminati plans... by whatever means at their disposal..

levitas
15-06-2007, 07:22 AM
I agree that it probably doesn't matter why they haven't attacked yet, and that we should concentrate into believing that it wont happen anyways. What good is it worrying about a possible issue like this, and creating negative energy for no reason.

Like Montag said it's propaganda to take the focus of Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine. The United States has forces in many other places, where lots of people are dying everyday. And also if they did decide to invade Iran, it would be very difficult to come up with a good enough false flag... I dont think the American people or even the world would easily allow it. Plus with problems of getting new troops to sign up could make things harder for them.

And another thing, December, you're obviously a really big Russian fan, and I'm not saying that's bad or anything but you have to realize that government is government, and they always use their people. Russia does seem to be standing strong against the West, but another Cold War isn't a good solution for the people. Will Putin die? Will Bush die? Will all of the elite in the background do the fighting? Hell no, me and you will... well maybe not... I think we wouldn't allow that, but the millions of other brainwashed people will. December, you're probably a Russian man living in the US. I may be wrong, but that's what it sounds like. I think you might be blind to the fact that the Russian government isn't the hero you think it is becuase you live in a foregin country which makes it extremely easy to critize it. I'm just telling you that maybe it's better to fight for love and peace through means other than WWIII. Any conflict which would lead to a war is bad.

But December, I do agree with you that Russia probably is the boulder sitting in front of the West. Just look at Kosovo and the missile defense system... mother Russia is back on its feet without a doubt.

I've heard people say that they think that there are two elite groups. Both of them are fighting for the same goal but through different ways. Maybe Russia/China is one group, while the other is the West...

If anyone has any information about Putin and him being a illuminite/mason I'd like to see it very much. I think I've seen pictures of him making the Satan sign before.