Billy Meier-views?!

[lightbeing]

Just wanted to hear everyone’s views on Billy Meier, still in my eyes as the most believable contactee:) The footage has a 'feel' I know is the real deal.......:)
Remember Billy has only got 1 arm!:eek:

[limelady]

Hi lightbeing

I've read a lot of the Meier material, in fact made a study of it for about a year. Where once I thought he was likely genuine, after sifting through all the relevant material, I now believe he may have been one of the early mind-programme experiments. I have no doubt he was witness to UFO activity (was it an early Nazi experimental craft?), and I believe he DOES remote view and likely has some genuine psychic ability too. But remember he spent time in India learning from sharmen when he was young, so he very likely took onboard a lot of ancient know-how... but the rest IMO is mostly self-delusion.

Devotees of the Meier cult don't like hearing people say things like this, so I'm likely to get stoned if there's anyone on the forum into Meier. :eek:

[paulski]

Devotees of the Meier cult don't like hearing people say things like this, so I'm likely to get stoned if there's anyone on the forum into Meier.

Looks like they can stone me too Limelady. What I've read feels like an organised piece of propaganda for the general populas.

[lightbeing]

Hi lightbeing

I've read a lot of the Meier material, in fact made a study of it for about a year. Where once I thought he was likely genuine, after sifting through all the relevant material, I now believe he may have been one of the early mind-programme experiments. I have no doubt he was witness to UFO activity (was it an early Nazi experimental craft?), and I believe he DOES remote view and likely has some genuine psychic ability too. But remember he spent time in India learning from sharmen when he was young, so he very likely took onboard a lot of ancient know-how... but the rest IMO is mostly self-delusion.

Devotees of the Meier cult don't like hearing people say things like this, so I'm likely to get stoned if there's anyone on the forum into Meier. :eek:

Hi there limelady,

Can't say too much as I haven't done a years study into Meier!:eek:
That's the first time I've heard of Billy being a mind control experiment, but you may be right.
The thing that gets me is the mass of evidence he has, pictures and cine film.
I've been reading stuff about the Nazi saucers, not sure if they would have had that level of technology back then, hmmm..........

[friendsinthesky]

Hi lightbeing

I've read a lot of the Meier material, in fact made a study of it for about a year. Where once I thought he was likely genuine, after sifting through all the relevant material, I now believe he may have been one of the early mind-programme experiments. I have no doubt he was witness to UFO activity (was it an early Nazi experimental craft?), and I believe he DOES remote view and likely has some genuine psychic ability too. But remember he spent time in India learning from sharmen when he was young, so he very likely took onboard a lot of ancient know-how... but the rest IMO is mostly self-delusion.

Devotees of the Meier cult don't like hearing people say things like this, so I'm likely to get stoned if there's anyone on the forum into Meier. :eek:

I'm not a said fan of billy but hey...back it up, let's here/see your evidence.:)

[limelady]

I'm not a said fan of billy but hey...back it up, let's here/see your evidence.:)

I'm sorry? I wasn't aware I had to supply "evidence"?
I have merely posted an opinion in response to what somebody has asked.
So you go back yourself up matey!

[thirdwave]

+ points

He has some very interesting and believable footage and appears very genuine... His name has lasted a long time which means he must have something about him that makes his info stick about....

- points

He says how others out there are fake, chanelers and so on... (which im sure some are) and but how can 1 group of other beings state that when there are obviously so many other life out there that may also want to help or contact us....

and why is it crazy that there is energy in the universe where people can communicate with out physical contact... but its not crazy to go in a space ship and travel back in time and see dinosaurs and stuff??

I also still don't really know what the whole point of them visiting him was.... what message has been put out? ..... what was their job ?

It also does not make sense how he can take so many photos of the UFOs and stuff but that's the limit, no ETE pics.... no inside of the UFO pics and any other pic is all blurred and un clear..... does not really make sense...

[friendsinthesky]

I'm sorry? I wasn't aware I had to supply "evidence"?
I have merely posted an opinion in response to what somebody has asked.
So you go back yourself up matey!

A very strong opinion, you've just set a precident with your reply, unless you would like to retract. I'm sure you understand, to suggest against without supplying evidence would then be seen as mis-leading, ask david ickes lawyer for advise if you don't understand, matey.

[john white]

Hi lightbeing

I've read a lot of the Meier material, in fact made a study of it for about a year. Where once I thought he was likely genuine, after sifting through all the relevant material, I now believe he may have been one of the early mind-programme experiments. I have no doubt he was witness to UFO activity (was it an early Nazi experimental craft?), and I believe he DOES remote view and likely has some genuine psychic ability too. But remember he spent time in India learning from sharmen when he was young, so he very likely took onboard a lot of ancient know-how... but the rest IMO is mostly self-delusion.

Devotees of the Meier cult don't like hearing people say things like this, so I'm likely to get stoned if there's anyone on the forum into Meier. :eek:

I like to take a more human view wherever possible: most problems with information from a wide range of people stem from that old bug bear: the human ego

Take Erich Von Daniken: a visionary man, who saw a pattern in history and wrote a very succesful and ground breaking book (Chariot of the Gods of course): but then, hoist on the petard of his own success, became increasingly reckless in his appraoch until anything and everything at all that was old became "Alien" just to fill the page count. Doesnt mean he wasnt on to something, but the needs of money put stress on even the best integrity and the end result is a sadly predictable poisoning of the researchers own well, especially when under pressure to meet the demand for more revelation (please iconic figure do my thinking for me!) from a fanbase

Is meier another example of this? Possibly: thirdwave makes some very good points about the mysterious limitation of meiers material. Is there a core of truth despite this? Probably. Can mind control be ruled out? Of course not, if an intergalacticf speciers can park their vehicle on your front porch, they can probably boggle your noodle too. But if so, where was the noodle boggled? Always the tricky question, and not one that rewards snap judgments

So what else can be said, apart from the above is yet another example of why we should never accept anything at face value, keep ideas as possibilities on the back burner rather than certainities fired by belief, and do our own damn thinking

[limelady]

A very strong opinion, you've just set a precident with your reply, unless you would like to retract. I'm sure you understand, to suggest against without supplying evidence would then be seen as mis-leading, ask david ickes lawyer for advise if you don't understand, matey.

Your tone is most unpleasant.

Retract what?

The vast majority of posts on this forum are only forum users own opinions. I stated in my post it was my opinion gleamed from doing research. I don't personally care what other's think of Meier - they are free to make up their own minds. I have no more proof he is fake than somebody trying to prove he is genuine! Is all speculation, because even Meier himself has not been able to successfully prove his case. Its not my job to prove Meier to anybody - I was merely answering a question!

But with all the personal opinion on the forum, I can see the laywers are going to be VERY busy aren't they?

[friendsinthesky]

So what else can be said, apart from the above is yet another example of why we should never accept anything at face value, keep ideas as possibilities on the back burner rather than certainities fired by belief, and do our own damn thinking

Absolutely agree, but then, there are members who will dis-agree with what you've written without evidence, he said! - she said! - I dis-agree! - I -agree! What a fucking mental time warp.

[friendsinthesky]

Your tone is most unpleasant.


It's always some-one else and not you, well I return the compliment, only I'm a little late, please forgive me, WITH LOVE.

[thirdwave]

I think the Nazi's may well have had knowledge of UFOs back then but im not convinced they had their own....

there was actually a guy called Admiral Bird who went to the north pole and claimed to have made his way into hollow earth.... he said he saw UFOs with the swastika on them, lets not forget the swastika sign was not designed by the Nazis, just used.

[thirdwave]

A very strong opinion, you've just set a precident with your reply, unless you would like to retract. I'm sure you understand, to suggest against without supplying evidence would then be seen as mis-leading, ask david ickes lawyer for advise if you don't understand, matey.



what is "A very strong opinion" ?

[limelady]

It's always some-one else and not you, well I return the compliment, only I'm a little late, please forgive me, WITH LOVE.

I'm happy with whatever makes you happy, so
forgive me with LOVE too.

[friendsinthesky]

I'm happy with whatever makes you happy, so
forgive me with LOVE too.

Accepted, now that we now each other, we can move along.

[lightbeing]

I love the whole Meier case, it gets a good discussion going!:D ;)

[limelady]

I love the whole Meier case, it gets a good discussion going!:D ;)

I agree!

You find the Meier case tends to bring out the best and worst in people :D

[john white]

Absolutely agree, but then, there are members who will dis-agree with what you've written without evidence, he said! - she said! - I dis-agree! - I -agree! What a fucking mental time warp.

Welcome to Earth! (please drive carefully)

[paulski]

Lets all remember this is a 'discussion' based on opinions and research, we all will have our different perspectives. It's not up to the individual to justify their point of view with a thesis, just for another to denounce it with other 'research'/opinion. Let's keep our mind's open and discuss, share and acknowledge each other's uniqueness.


Here's a link to an interview with Billy in 1988:-

http://www.figu.org/us/figu/billy_meier/interview.htm

[thirdwave]

can anyone answer this...

why did they go to billy?

we see UFO sights all over the internet.... its not his shots that show us UFOs are real there are loads of others.....

so what was their point? ....ok if he had pics of them sitting down talking with him then we have a diforent matter, but thats all hidden....

I just dont really get where their deal was...... they did not really need to go to him as nothing has come of it..... it was obviously a mission and a very important one or he would not have been the "chosen one" ...so whats the deal...

this is what I dont get with him...

[limelady]

Why Billy?

Well according to an article here:
http://www.gaiaguys.net/hardlanguageoftruth.htm

Billy Meier is considered by his ET friends to be the prophet of the new age.......

Billy Meier is the prophet of the new age according to his Plejaran visitors and other high intelligences. However a prophet, the Plejarans explain, is simply a human being with unusually advanced, pre-eminent knowledge and wisdom, in this case making it possible for a much more highly advanced people to make contact in order to provide necessary assistance and guidance. Meier finds the label pretentious sounding and has only accepted it over time, and grudgingly. His role has been extremely burdensome. :rolleyes:

[thirdwave]

Why Billy?

Well according to an article here:
http://www.gaiaguys.net/hardlanguageoftruth.htm

Billy Meier is considered by his ET friends to be the prophet of the new age.......

:rolleyes:

well in that case we have evidence that if these visitors are real, then they can be very wrong, as he is not a prophet of our age.... simple as that.

and there is not really any relivent info he has come up with....

nothing has really expanded from what he has claimed to have expiranced....

I tend to think you might be right in that he is mind controlled....

He may have filmed UFOs and these UFOs might have been militery ...or ETEs in conection with militery... and he may have even had contact with the UFO pilots.... (which would explain the lack of photos of the pilots... so someone does not go.... "hey thats Jon Biggins!!" ....)

but I dont think he has really had contact with good beings from out of space trying to help us.... not that there are not any...

thats my view anyway.... of cours Im allways open to stuff, but for me he just does not sit right....

[limelady]

Hi TW. Well you've come to pretty much the same conclusion as I did after wading my way through a ton of Billy's "contact notes".

One thing that the Plejaran's apparently told Billy is that their advanced culture has not killed animals for food for a very long time. They explained to him that they grow their meat in cultures, and they've all been physically and spiritually healthier as race of people since they stopped consuming live animal flesh. The implication was there that eating meat from previously living animals was not a refined way of going about things for a spiritually evolving race of people.

Funily enough, this was one of the few things that rang true for me in Billy's writings, as I have always felt killing other living creatures in order to eat them was a very bizarre and barbaric thing to do.....in fact the whole "food-chain" thing upsets me.....the 'program' that dictates that creatures must eat other creature just seems so sick to me somehow. :confused:

However, I just posted a thread about the Plejaren idea of growing meat...it seems Earth scientists have caught on to this 'other-wordly' idea....

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3191

and it seems to have gone down pretty much like a lead balloon!!! :D