seeing light ?

[clozaril]

after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?

this has been with me for about 10yrs. i'm not proclaiming to be psychic, i see light, balls of light no bigger than an inch, these are definetly non-physical, they vary in color ususally pure white, electric blue or violet/purple sometimes they come when i'm reading a book on certain words or when i'm thinking of an idea one will appear for a second then disappear.

the feeling i get from them is it's spirit, it lifts me, i don't know if it's angelic or pleiadian or something else - it could just be my aura. however i do get the impression it is guidance.


i'm not sure if it's my aura as they can appear 5-6 ft away from me.

what i'm wondering is what is it ? can it be utilised ? can i communicate with it more ?

[ethanmya]

[QUOTE=clozaril;435815]after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?

this has been with me for about 10yrs. i'm not proclaiming to be psychic, i see light, balls of light no bigger than an inch, these are definetly non-physical, they vary in color ususally pure white, electric blue or violet/purple sometimes they come when i'm reading a book on certain words or when i'm thinking of an idea one will appear for a second then disappear.

the feeling i get from them is it's spirit, it lifts me, i don't know if it's angelic or pleiadian or something else - it could just be my aura. however i do get the impression it is guidance.


i'm not sure if it's my aura as they can appear 5-6 ft away from me.

what i'm wondering is what is it ? can it be utilised ? can i communicate with it more ?[/QUOhTE]


Hi there, I dont know if this is of any help to you. I see orbs quite often at night when I am lying in bed. Ive noticed more so lately that they tend to whizz around the ceiling at quite a fast pace, often before a stressful situation. I also see flashes of bright blue on a daily basis. I own a set of oracle cards and when I lay them out I close my eyes and where ever the blue light flashes this is the card I choose. Seems to be quite accurate every time. I think the lights act as some sort of guide for me. x

[browmj27]

I believe you are experiencing a "condition" called synesthesia. You could specifically be called a Grapheme synesthete. Research it, you'll find select others like you. Hope this helps!

[clozaril]

I believe you are experiencing a "condition" called synesthesia. You could specifically be called a Grapheme synesthete. Research it, you'll find select others like you. Hope this helps!

i don't think it's synethsesia as there is no music on friend. however i am a musician.

[clozaril]

Hi there, I dont know if this is of any help to you. I see orbs quite often at night when I am lying in bed. Ive noticed more so lately that they tend to whizz around the ceiling at quite a fast pace, often before a stressful situation. I also see flashes of bright blue on a daily basis. I own a set of oracle cards and when I lay them out I close my eyes and where ever the blue light flashes this is the card I choose. Seems to be quite accurate every time. I think the lights act as some sort of guide for me. x


i don't use cards or anything. like you say it does seem to be guidance and comforting
i did a search the other night but came across a lot of orb/ghosthunting type stuff.
the other stuff was psychic related but it just seems similar in that others see this but most are unable to communicate with it except one lady who says that they flash in one eye if she is on a good train of thought but flash in the other eye if it's a wrong train of thought.

id like to use it more - i've also noticed if i'm in higher vibration i see it more

[ethanmya]

Thanks Clorozil, its really weird isnt it. Ive only just started to learn how to use the cards. But every time I close my eyes the light always seems to flash on the one most relevant to my situation at the time. Thanks again. x

[deafbred]

yes I see the light. Like little balls of light roaming moving all around in the atmosphere of the heavens of the sky. Bombarding around fast and at all different rates of speed. Also it seems we as humans are apart of this atom like balls of light. It seems like I can make ONE manifest brightly before my eyes sight when I relax and calm my mind and realize.

I play guitar and when I do I concentrate on this LIGHT and the more I do, the more I see the other DOTS of light that are at certain points around. All these balls of light seem to be getting more and more abundant. I think its just going to add up to one giant light bloom of some kind.

I seen em today. I was listening to a LIVE broadcast of Alex Jones and was looking at the blue sky. I see these 'orbs' or what ever you would call them 'balls of light' moving all around like little spaceships in the heights of the air of the sky. They get closer to you the more you are willing to allow them to or you become consciously open and less fearful of what is HAPPENING.

When I meditate on "this most advanced state" ...things begin to happen and open up more on a broader picture. The words I hear LIVE on tv in the NOW seem to correlate with the broader conscious of the understanding of the experience universal in the NOW. All the DOTS of light in the world seem to connect and effect the whole. I see the TV announcers or people who are LIVE on tv...stumble, their words. Its like a peaking of something that is HAPPENING.

It's destroying all negative vibes and every aspect of evil spirited conclusions and judgments with its gossip.

The more I hold onto this view of the subliminal mind's profoundness of the awareness of what IS REALLY taking place in the consciousness ...the more the world ALL AROUND, is effected DIRECTLY by the energy which is jumping throughout.

It's effecting the negative people A LOT, they are seen for what they are. Their fruits are more understood in their craftiness. Everything is being REVEALED, through this effect of the light. Things are changing and its getting more and more accelerated day by day.

Though this chaotic energy that is, just,(justified), and is giving positive persons a more power and a feeling sensation of great vibes and increasing their awareness, I see the negative humans...getting more INSANE. More dark...though the light is good for them, they hate 'falling apart'. Having their whole dark world exposed. So ...I hate to think it or imagine it or even say it..., it seems...these negative ONES, are going to do things SO WRONG, so awful, so unimaginably HEARTLESS, though it is futile, try to cover up and DESTROY this awakening that is happening throughout.

They are going to try to diffuse it by trying to confuse. It's going to be hard for people to remain hopeful and focused on the positive perspective. Though they should be ASSURED the more and more they see the EVILS happening in the world. Because...this only signifies and makes you realize the rock solid JUSTICE of which it is going to serve each of us what we deserve.

I see these lights. I just wish I could play my guitar out in the open doors of the outside nature of the bloom of summer or spring because life seems more alive then. LIVE. Here and Now. The awakened consciousness realized. Destroying ALL the works of the darkness. If we could just gather together and harness this light. Increase it by becoming aware of it more in depth. Once we do this, everything else is easy to SEE, HEAR and understand. A profound understanding of life becomes amazingly beautiful and we see the blessings of everything and the negative of the disruptions.

When you get to this level of LIGHT throughout, you begin to see, how easy life takes care of itself and how everything is connected and how endless the possibilities are.

go here to read more of what I written on another thread about orbs
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434477&postcount=2
and here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434482&postcount=3

just to add...I don't see why we have to bail out the housing market. greedy lenders who made up the bills home owners can't afford because the agreement was forged in complex deceptions for profit. not to also blame it on them to much as the value of the dollar has been raped beyond belief. Also all the governments legislation over the years that slowly killed America's industries slowly but surly.
isn't it time to say get the hell out of our way so we can live free and become again the America we could be? No...we are just going to let these crooks keep running things and sell us out down the river further. Even when America had a chance at a great leader...we laughed and scoffed. Continuing to self inflict wounds upon ourselves by following the problem makers that got us into these problems to begin with. Lying politicians, the women that delude them, and us, and the money that has ballooned the government to the point where we have no money at all in our own hands, and allows for all kinds of hidden nails securing the coffin of a once former great American ideal.

"congress should be run out of the nations capitol" Lou Dobbs

[element]

I see golden lights regularly, especially before sleeping. When my body is rested and my mind is without thoughts it comes more easily. It gives me a very calm feeling. Sometimes the energy comes through my being and it's feels very intense(body vibrations too) and pure love. It's wonderful.

[montag]

I've seen the flashes for over ten years now, daylight or nighttime generally in my peripheral vision, I hardly think anything of it now.

[delamo1999]

just to add...I don't see why we have to bail out the housing market. greedy lenders who made up the bills home owners can't afford because the agreement was forged in complex deceptions for profit. not to also blame it on them to much as the value of the dollar has been raped beyond belief. Also all the governments legislation over the years that slowly killed America's industries slowly but surly.
isn't it time to say get the hell out of our way so we can live free and become again the America we could be? No...we are just going to let these crooks keep running things and sell us out down the river further. Even when America had a chance at a great leader...we laughed and scoffed. Continuing to self inflict wounds upon ourselves by following the problem makers that got us into these problems to begin with. Lying politicians, the women that delude them, and us, and the money that has ballooned the government to the point where we have no money at all in our own hands, and allows for all kinds of hidden nails securing the coffin of a once former great American ideal.

"congress should be run out of the nations capitol" Lou Dobbs


Most people who I have tried to educate on regarding the crap that the illuminati has shoved down our throats have laughed at me or told me that I don't know what I am talking about. These people are too wrapped up in talking gossip on their cell phones or playing the stock market. We live in a world where one of the "gods" is greed and is worshipped my many who either choose to ignore the truth or are so wrapped up in the lies that they do not know any better.

The only person who I can convince of this is myself and others who are ready to hear the truth and make a change.

Good thread.

:)

[clozaril]

in the video ...Michael Tsarion talks about the light that is going to arrive here soon around 2012...the center of the universe...the light...the cleansing...the shadows cast out...all seen heard and understood in this time.



yep perhaps it's related to the photon belt ...

i'd like to understand it more, and have it more in my life. also i know that when i'm in a higher vibration it is more frequent.

i am still a little confused as to what it is

[osiris111]

hi there ive not been here long and im trying to get out as much info and collect the same if you get me. i have been seeing those lights for about two years now but i also have something else i was wondering if you get this too?
when i close my eyes i can see huge bubbles of purple ? clouds moving infront of me and large lights behind me on both sides?. i can also do this when i have my eyes open but it means that i have to completely unfocus my eyes to the point where i cant even tell whats in front of me?
if i close my eyes and play with my own energy with my hands i can see white smoke coming off my hands and shoulders? any ideas?

[clozaril]

hi all of this is with my eyes open.

sounds like you're seeing with your third eye, i'm no expert though

[marpat]

hi there ive not been here long and im trying to get out as much info and collect the same if you get me. i have been seeing those lights for about two years now but i also have something else i was wondering if you get this too?
when i close my eyes i can see huge bubbles of purple ? clouds moving infront of me and large lights behind me on both sides?. i can also do this when i have my eyes open but it means that i have to completely unfocus my eyes to the point where i cant even tell whats in front of me?
if i close my eyes and play with my own energy with my hands i can see white smoke coming off my hands and shoulders? any ideas?


I get this too. I also get green clouds and white sparks, although sometimes the sparks are red or blue. Same conditions to, when relaxed and with eyes open and shut.

I sometimes think it may be the mind because if you focus on images very strongly you will sometimes see a vague shadow take form in the light which seems to have the outline of the thought, as if it is trying to manifest.

[osiris111]

i have been trying lately to gather up as much energy into me as possible to the point where i can feel my bones creaking when i move. it feels very strong and i can feel the energy move like it has a motivation of its own but will let me manipulate it to a certain extenet. has anyone tried this in a group as i feel you would get better results if there was more than one person. if anyone is interested in giving it a go let me know and wwell try and come up with something
be free

[clozaril]

i have been trying lately to gather up as much energy into me as possible to the point where i can feel my bones creaking when i move. it feels very strong and i can feel the energy move like it has a motivation of its own but will let me manipulate it to a certain extenet. has anyone tried this in a group as i feel you would get better results if there was more than one person. if anyone is interested in giving it a go let me know and wwell try and come up with something
be free


i've never tried this, though i have, as i'm sure everyone else does, want to raise their energy/frequency through diets meditation etc.

what are your aims to gather energy? is it castanaedean or some other discipline are you creative?

[dazzle]

hiya

posted this on other post "strange person" by mistake...meant for here...


have a look at my thread I have just done... it may give you answers ..but I may be wrong...

"general" forum under

Is this revelation? Bush, Putin, our inner light...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32765

[dazzle]

hiya

aura 5 feet away...okay possible depending on knowledge or what one percieves...you need to go deeper...your aura is trillions of miles even more than that in fact it reaches to the ends of the galaxy and beyond...

[goldman]

Some girlfirend saw a big white light around me some years ago, does anyone know what this means?

[marpat]

Some girlfirend saw a big white light around me some years ago, does anyone know what this means?

Not sure but perhaps they are thought forms. I have often seen bright sparks of light in coloured clouds, mainly white, often blue and sometimes red.

I guess the question would have to be are the lights self generated or some external force.

[oiram]

yes I see the light. Like little balls of light roaming moving all around in the atmosphere of the heavens of the sky. Bombarding around fast and at all different rates of speed. Also it seems we as humans are apart of this atom like balls of light. It seems like I can make ONE manifest brightly before my eyes sight when I relax and calm my mind and realize.

I play guitar and when I do I concentrate on this LIGHT and the more I do, the more I see the other DOTS of light that are at certain points around. All these balls of light seem to be getting more and more abundant. I think its just going to add up to one giant light bloom of some kind.

I seen em today. I was listening to a LIVE broadcast of Alex Jones and was looking at the blue sky. I see these 'orbs' or what ever you would call them 'balls of light' moving all around like little spaceships in the heights of the air of the sky. They get closer to you the more you are willing to allow them to or you become consciously open and less fearful of what is HAPPENING.

When I meditate on "this most advanced state" ...things begin to happen and open up more on a broader picture. The words I hear LIVE on tv in the NOW seem to correlate with the broader conscious of the understanding of the experience universal in the NOW. All the DOTS of light in the world seem to connect and effect the whole. I see the TV announcers or people who are LIVE on tv...stumble, their words. Its like a peaking of something that is HAPPENING.

It's destroying all negative vibes and every aspect of evil spirited conclusions and judgments with its gossip.

The more I hold onto this view of the subliminal mind's profoundness of the awareness of what IS REALLY taking place in the consciousness ...the more the world ALL AROUND, is effected DIRECTLY by the energy which is jumping throughout.

It's effecting the negative people A LOT, they are seen for what they are. Their fruits are more understood in their craftiness. Everything is being REVEALED, through this effect of the light. Things are changing and its getting more and more accelerated day by day.

Though this chaotic energy that is, just,(justified), and is giving positive persons a more power and a feeling sensation of great vibes and increasing their awareness, I see the negative humans...getting more INSANE. More dark...though the light is good for them, they hate 'falling apart'. Having their whole dark world exposed. So ...I hate to think it or imagine it or even say it..., it seems...these negative ONES, are going to do things SO WRONG, so awful, so unimaginably HEARTLESS, though it is futile, try to cover up and DESTROY this awakening that is happening throughout.

They are going to try to diffuse it by trying to confuse. It's going to be hard for people to remain hopeful and focused on the positive perspective. Though they should be ASSURED the more and more they see the EVILS happening in the world. Because...this only signifies and makes you realize the rock solid JUSTICE of which it is going to serve each of us what we deserve.

I see these lights. I just wish I could play my guitar out in the open doors of the outside nature of the bloom of summer or spring because life seems more alive then. LIVE. Here and Now. The awakened consciousness realized. Destroying ALL the works of the darkness. If we could just gather together and harness this light. Increase it by becoming aware of it more in depth. Once we do this, everything else is easy to SEE, HEAR and understand. A profound understanding of life becomes amazingly beautiful and we see the blessings of everything and the negative of the disruptions.

When you get to this level of LIGHT throughout, you begin to see, how easy life takes care of itself and how everything is connected and how endless the possibilities are.

go here to read more of what I written on another thread about orbs
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434477&postcount=2
and here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434482&postcount=3

just to add...I don't see why we have to bail out the housing market. greedy lenders who made up the bills home owners can't afford because the agreement was forged in complex deceptions for profit. not to also blame it on them to much as the value of the dollar has been raped beyond belief. Also all the governments legislation over the years that slowly killed America's industries slowly but surly.
isn't it time to say get the hell out of our way so we can live free and become again the America we could be? No...we are just going to let these crooks keep running things and sell us out down the river further. Even when America had a chance at a great leader...we laughed and scoffed. Continuing to self inflict wounds upon ourselves by following the problem makers that got us into these problems to begin with. Lying politicians, the women that delude them, and us, and the money that has ballooned the government to the point where we have no money at all in our own hands, and allows for all kinds of hidden nails securing the coffin of a once former great American ideal.

"congress should be run out of the nations capitol" Lou Dobbs
One more good posting abstract but good if you can read between the lines!
I am not seeing this lights yet maybe I am floating within the light and I'm pointing it directly at the dark spots!
One thing I can say from many personal experience don't the ones hiding in darkness hate to have the stright true light being pointed at them!
Also I can clearly see how the true light is effecting the dark light!
So many good people thinking in a straight line; like the light one straight line.
Why you good people are not fiscally all around me at least I would have someone to talk to; I really hope you straight thinking people & your comments are real and not just a dream or elution!

Sorry but still one negativity in my eyes is still present; Ones the good Americans are able to see further then only America and see one big world we live in then we are ready! Because this process happening right now concerns every good human on this Earth not only the ones living in America and has no color coding! The destruction implemented by these Politicians which are all in bed with each other world wide is not only restricted to America it gets executed all over the world!

If we could just gather together and harness this light. Increase it by becoming aware of it more in depth. Once we do this, everything else is easy If we could just gather together and harness this light. Increase it by becoming aware of it more in depth. Once we do this, everything else is easy to SEE, HEAR and understand. A profound understanding of life becomes amazingly beautiful and we see the blessings of everything and the negative of the disruptions.to SEE, HEAR and understand.

[deafbred]

One more good posting abstract but good if you can read between the lines!
I am not seeing this lights yet maybe I am floating within the light and I'm pointing it directly at the dark spots!
One thing I can say from many personal experience don't the ones hiding in darkness hate to have the straight true light being pointed at them!
Also I can clearly see how the true light is effecting the dark light!
So many good people thinking in a straight line; like the light one straight line.
Why you good people are not fiscally all around me at least I would have someone to talk to; I really hope you straight thinking people & your comments are real and not just a dream or elution!

Sorry but still one negativity in my eyes is still present; Ones the good Americans are able to see further then only America and see one big world we live in then we are ready! Because this process happening right now concerns every good human on this Earth not only the ones living in America and has no color coding! The destruction implemented by these Politicians which are all in bed with each other world wide is not only restricted to America it gets executed all over the world!

If we could just gather together and harness this light. Increase it by becoming aware of it more in depth. Once we do this, everything else is easy If we could just gather together and harness this light. Increase it by becoming aware of it more in depth. Once we do this, everything else is easy to SEE, HEAR and understand. A profound understanding of life becomes amazingly beautiful and we see the blessings of everything and the negative of the disruptions.to SEE, HEAR and understand.

<nods yup yup yup

I agree, when I was playing guitar in two-thousand-four I, imagery, imagined what I was facing/battling here. The spirits that be. Also I saw the so called "illegal immigrants" crossing the sands of the deserts of the south in the United States and I only thought of them as human beings and I only wanted good interactions to take place. This isn't an America thing or Mexico deal, I don't believe in all that grouping together of people though I have appreciation for any countries history or past and can understand the pride and love people would have for their past plights and fights to develop themselves into what they have become as a nation.

Ultimately yes it is about ALL of us, HUMANS, across the globe, uniting as one and acknowledging we all are here together on this earth.

I am a Canadian living in America, I am not a citizen but a Resident Alien with a Green Card. I lost it and my wallet on a cross country road trip with my motorcycle when I was heading to Arizona, near El Paso. It costs five hundred to replace it. I cannot vote because I am not a citizen. I been here since I was 2 and I couldn't love this country more.

We've all been painted our certain colors through our countries flags and nation states. We've all been called citizens of this or that country or nation. The fact is though we are all citizens of this globe.

I thought about it and WAR and how it works and how we constantly get pitted against each other for whatever reason. I was thinking, why can't there be peace. I thought about how the powers that be would try in bring in control of the globe and stay in power while supposedly delivering peace. While actually continuing to enslave us and reining in a lie. I figured they would paint the globe all one color like blue. Where as before...each nation...red, orange, green, gray, etc where always at odds, war, separated, divided. To solve WAR problem and bring peace they would paint us all one color when in actuality there would be two because behind the scenes they would still be in control and pulling all the strings. Giving us a fake ONE world when in truth we would still be divided because we would be enslaved still and not truly free.

it's tough to get people to unite together and gather when you got so many obstacles to overcome. people are selfish, looking out for themselves, running the rat race to get to the top of the money game. self interests are all to many. hijacking and creating problems for others to stale the effect of a true movement.

plus the PERMITS you need..the PERMISSION, just to gather together. the money it takes to buy people off. it seems every great movement is always sabatouged in some way or another.

I like the idea of small universal segments rising up standing on their own in their own parts of the world. ideally it would be each ONE of us being our own sovereign bodies standing on our own as the constitution says we are free and equal beings. One can't do it alone though. It has to take all of us each to be ourselves that will domino the effect of change we would want to see in a freeing way throughout. I try to stand but NO ONE around my immediate area I know of even thinks the way I do rather than standing with me. It's like I got the whole world against me though I am not against the world. I am not resisting them, they are resisting me. Maybe its not me they are resisting but rather some greater truth that is universal that we are all apart of. Its in the inside of each one of us. The actions we take and are willing to go along with our own destruction simply from going along to get along. We are scared...of what I don't know, we got nothing to lose now except our lives, and why covet that if you cannot live it the way you should be living it in the first place because you only live once.

why can't the good rise. people just love the lie.

they all hide

fear
scared

controlled
owned

they are willing to give up their souls ultimately - Killing mine in the MEANtime

"brave souls throughout the world take action against their global masters"
Alex Jones

brave souls...no cowards,

land of the free
home of the brave

no wonder why we are not free, we are truly cowards throughout

COWARDS, WEAK, PATHETIC, slaves, wow

this is the state of humanity

demoralized



__________________

I played guitar a couple weeks ago...meditated my vibe and motion in the ocean wave of grace, lights in the sky, was it my consciousness, was my light connecting to the greater, all I know is that when I kept my focus...this HUGE astonishing LAKE of light opened up in the sky, it was so bright, in my flight, was I the only one seeing it, it was real enough, it made sense, I cut through the dense, the presence effect, the here and now, the glow, of the know, what does it matter if I am alone, locked in a box, you cannot hear me or see me, I must not exist, so much resist, the fists, I am an atom bomb of consciousness, everyone thinks I'm crazy, no just sad, the land is caught in a fad

[emeraldgreen]

i had been seeing these orbs of lights on and off for a couple of years and at first i was a bit scared -but in the past month or so many things appeared to me - e.g. i look at the sky and can see this beautiful loving eye looking at me and now i know its looking after me. the lights began to get brighter and with me all the time with these sparks previously mentioned - then last week i was sitting watching them as i love looking at them and then it was amazing - i cant put it into words because they sound heavy compared to what i felt - it was the most beautiful feeling and experience and it has changed my life i know - i was getting waves of intense love and seeing radiance of different colours. i feel we are experiencing what we have been looking for. i have to very reluctantly tear myself away because i just want to be there - i feel there is a huge wave of conciousness which so many people must be experiencing.

its amazing!

[deafbred]

"about to reach a 'fever' pitch" ...I just heard on the tv in the LIVE conscience expression

[clozaril]

stuart wilde is calling this light the 'speckled ambience'

listening to a recent tape of his and an experience in 2001 has really altered his direction.

[clozaril]

stuie is also saying this is the light of the celestial world meeting the 3d world and these lights are of the light that comes every 10-15000 yrs, the forces of light.

[rhydra]

In another thread, I mentioned that I saw a ball or balls of light which manifested just below the ceiling. A blue green appearance. Just as I opened my eyes during meditation.

[clozaril]

i've started to write down the words when the light appears now.

it's obviously communicating so when the light sparkles i now write the word down.

last weeks words/communication -

practicallity allright safe round work sense it work people image belong discover bring experience


any opinions are welcome !

[2013]

Been seeign these balls of light now for years since1981-82 .Although not as often overthe years seemsto be phases 95 was another strong year for their appearance .Mostly white but occasionally coloured pink blue purple .Also strangely Dark light like black balls of the same stuff but illuminted if thats possible from within .The black lights are much smaller than the white light, which at one point expanded to fill the entire room and was so bright but not uncomfortable . :D

[oiram]

after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?This maybe a interesting article you like to read!

Here is some Hope!
People Have NDEs While Brain Dead

Dr. Michael Sabom is a cardiologist whose latest book, Light and Death, includes a detailed medical and scientific analysis of an amazing near-death experience of a woman named Pam Reynolds. She underwent a rare operation to remove a giant basilar artery aneurysm in her brain that threatened her life. The size and location of the aneurysm, however, precluded its safe removal using the standard neuro-surgical techniques. She was referred to a doctor who had pioneered a daring surgical procedure known as hypothermic cardiac arrest. It allowed Pam's aneurysm to be excised with a reasonable chance of success. This operation, nicknamed "standstill" by the doctors who perform it, required that Pam's body temperature be lowered to 60 degrees, her heartbeat and breathing stopped, her brain waves flattened, and the blood drained from her head. In everyday terms, she was put to death. After removing the aneurysm, she was restored to life. During the time that Pam was in standstill, she experienced a NDE. Her remarkably detailed veridical out-of-body observations during her surgery were later verified to be very accurate. This case is considered to be one of the strongest cases of veridical evidence in NDE research because of her ability to describe the unique surgical instruments and procedures used and her ability to describe in detail these events while she was clinically and brain dead.

When all of Pam's vital signs were stopped, the doctor turned on a surgical saw and began to cut through Pam's skull. While this was going on, Pam reported that she felt herself "pop" outside her body and hover above the operating table. Then she watched the doctors working on her lifeless body for awhile. From her out-of-body position, she observed the doctor sawing into her skull with what looked to her like an electric toothbrush. Pam heard and reported later what the nurses in the operating room had said and exactly what was happening during the operation. At this time, every monitor attached to Pam's body registered "no life" whatsoever. At some point, Pam's consciousness floated out of the operating room and traveled down a tunnel which had a light at the end of it where her deceased relatives and friends were waiting including her long-dead grandmother. Pam's NDE ended when her deceased uncle led her back to her body for her to reentered it. Pam compared the feeling of reentering her dead body to "plunging into a pool of ice." The following is Pam Reynolds' account of her NDE in her own words.

The next thing I recall was the sound: It was a Natural "D." As I listened to the sound, I felt it was pulling me out of the top of my head. The further out of my body I got, the more clear the tone became. I had the impression it was like a road, a frequency that you go on ... I remember seeing several things in the operating room when I was looking down. It was the most aware that I think that I have ever been in my entire life ...I was metaphorically sitting on [the doctor's] shoulder. It was not like normal vision. It was brighter and more focused and clearer than normal vision ... There was so much in the operating room that I didn't recognize, and so many people.

I thought the way they had my head shaved was very peculiar. I expected them to take all of the hair, but they did not ...

The saw-thing that I hated the sound of looked like an electric toothbrush and it had a dent in it, a groove at the top where the saw appeared to go into the handle, but it didn't ... And the saw had interchangeable blades, too, but these blades were in what looked like a socket wrench case ... I heard the saw crank up. I didn't see them use it on my head, but I think I heard it being used on something. It was humming at a relatively high pitch and then all of a sudden it went Brrrrrrrrr! like that.

Someone said something about my veins and arteries being very small. I believe it was a female voice and that it was Dr. Murray, but I'm not sure. She was the cardiologist. I remember thinking that I should have told her about that ... I remember the heart-lung machine. I didn't like the respirator ... I remember a lot of tools and instruments that I did not readily recognize.

There was a sensation like being pulled, but not against your will. I was going on my own accord because I wanted to go. I have different metaphors to try to explain this. It was like the Wizard of Oz - being taken up in a tornado vortex, only you're not spinning around like you've got vertigo. You're very focused and you have a place to go. The feeling was like going up in an elevator real fast. And there was a sensation, but it wasn't a bodily, physical sensation. It was like a tunnel but it wasn't a tunnel.

At some point very early in the tunnel vortex I became aware of my grandmother calling me. But I didn't hear her call me with my ears ... It was a clearer hearing than with my ears. I trust that sense more than I trust my own ears.

The feeling was that she wanted me to come to her, so I continued with no fear down the shaft. It's a dark shaft that I went through, and at the very end there was this very little tiny pinpoint of light that kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

The light was incredibly bright, like sitting in the middle of a light bulb. It was so bright that I put my hands in front of my face fully expecting to see them and I could not. But I knew they were there. Not from a sense of touch. Again, it's terribly hard to explain, but I knew they were there ...

I noticed that as I began to discern different figures in the light - and they were all covered with light, they were light, and had light permeating all around them - they began to form shapes I could recognize and understand. I could see that one of them was my grandmother. I don't know if it was reality or a projection, but I would know my grandmother, the sound of her, anytime, anywhere.

Everyone I saw, looking back on it, fit perfectly into my understanding of what that person looked like at their best during their lives.

I recognized a lot of people. My uncle Gene was there. So was my great-great-Aunt Maggie, who was really a cousin. On Papa's side of the family, my grandfather was there ... They were specifically taking care of me, looking after me.

They would not permit me to go further ... It was communicated to me - that's the best way I know how to say it, because they didn't speak like I'm speaking - that if I went all the way into the light something would happen to me physically. They would be unable to put this me back into the body me, like I had gone too far and they couldn't reconnect. So they wouldn't let me go anywhere or do anything.

I wanted to go into the light, but I also wanted to come back. I had children to be reared. It was like watching a movie on fast-forward on your VCR: You get the general idea, but the individual freeze-frames are not slow enough to get detail.

Then they [deceased relatives] were feeding me. They were not doing this through my mouth, like with food, but they were nourishing me with something. The only way I know how to put it is something sparkly. Sparkles is the image that I get. I definitely recall the sensation of being nurtured and being fed and being made strong. I know it sounds funny, because obviously it wasn't a physical thing, but inside the experience I felt physically strong, ready for whatever.

My grandmother didn't take me back through the tunnel, or even send me back or ask me to go. She just looked up at me. I expected to go with her, but it was communicated to me that she just didn't think she would do that. My uncle said he would do it. He's the one who took me back through the end of the tunnel. Everything was fine. I did want to go.

But then I got to the end of it and saw the thing, my body. I didn't want to get into it ... It looked terrible, like a train wreck. It looked like what it was: dead. I believe it was covered. It scared me and I didn't want to look at it.

It was communicated to me that it was like jumping into a swimming pool. No problem, just jump right into the swimming pool. I didn't want to, but I guess I was late or something because he [the uncle] pushed me. I felt a definite repelling and at the same time a pulling from the body. The body was pulling and the tunnel was pushing ... It was like diving into a pool of ice water ... It hurt!

When I came back, they were playing Hotel California and the line was "You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave." I mentioned [later] to Dr. Brown that that was incredibly insensitive and he told me that I needed to sleep more. [laughter] When I regained consciousness, I was still on the respirator.

For practical purposes outside the world of academic debate, three clinical tests commonly determine brain death. First, a standard electroencephalogram, or EEG, measures brain-wave activity. A "flat" EEG denotes non-function of the cerebral cortex - the outer shell of the cerebrum. Second, auditory evoked potentials, similar to those [clicks] elicited by the ear speakers in Pam's surgery, measure brain-stem viability. Absence of these potentials indicates non-function of the brain stem. And third, documentation of no blood flow to the brain is a marker for a generalized absence of brain function.

But during "standstill", Pam's brain was found "dead" by all three clinical tests - her electroencephalogram was silent, her brain-stem response was absent, and no blood flowed through her brain. Interestingly, while in this state, she encountered the "deepest" NDE of all Atlanta Study participants.

Some scientists theorize that NDEs are produced by brain chemistry. But, Dr. Peter Fenwick, a neuropsychiatrist and the leading authority in Britain concerning NDEs, believes that these theories fall far short of the facts. In the documentary, "Into the Unknown: Strange But True," Dr. Fenwick describes the state of the brain during a NDE:

"The brain isn't functioning. It's not there. It's destroyed. It's abnormal. But, yet, it can produce these very clear experiences ... an unconscious state is when the brain ceases to function. For example, if you faint, you fall to the floor, you don't know what's happening and the brain isn't working. The memory systems are particularly sensitive to unconsciousness. So, you won't remember anything. But, yet, after one of these experiences [a NDE], you come out with clear, lucid memories ... This is a real puzzle for science. I have not yet seen any good scientific explanation which can explain that fact."

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence01.html

Scientific Theories of the NDE

The following are excerpts from Jean Ritchie's excellent book Death's Door which is unfortunately out-of-print. Here she describes all the various theories explaining the near-death experience. It is important to realize the fact that although the mechanism for the dying process in the brain can be quantified, this by no means proves that NDEs are merely a vision produced by the brain which ends upon permanent brain death. Science is unable to prove this because of the large amount of circumstantial evidence that consciousness can exist far removed from the body. In the same vein, science cannot prove that consciousness can survive death; however, research is underway right now that may provide scientific evidence that consciousness can exist outside of the body. Many people, such as myself, believe it is only a matter of time. NDE researchers do not have to prove anything. The circumstantial evidence is in their favor. But science has a lot of explaining to do if tries to claim that consciousness does not survive death.

A good analogy of one current theory of consciousness assumes that consciousness is not localized in the skull. Assuming consciousness is like a television signal that exists in the air waves and is being processed by a television set (the brain) to produce images on the screen (brain chemistry) representing a television program (a near-death experience). Using this analogy, current scientific theories claim that the near-death experience is a product of the television set. In other words, the television program is a product of the television set. Using the analogy, this would be false because it is the television signal working with the television that produces the television program. Some scientific claims state that death is the end of consciousness - like shutting of the television set is the end of the television signal in the air waves. Using this analogy, you can see that such a statement is false. Shutting off the television does not affect the television signal in the air waves. Some of the top consciousness researchers believe this analogy fits, that is, consciousness is like the television signals in the air waves and that death is not the end of consciousness. Shutting off the television set does not affect the signal in the air waves.

The following are the scientific theories concerning the phenomenon of the near-death experience.
(1) Dying Brain Theory
(2) Charles Darwin's Theory
(3) Hallucination Theory
(4) Temporal Lobe Theory
(5) Lack of Oxygen Theory
(6) Depersonalization Theory
(7) Memory of Birth Theory
(8 ) Afterlife Theory

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/experts01.html

[tootrue]

after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?

this has been with me for about 10yrs. i'm not proclaiming to be psychic, i see light, balls of light no bigger than an inch, these are definetly non-physical, they vary in color ususally pure white, electric blue or violet/purple sometimes they come when i'm reading a book on certain words or when i'm thinking of an idea one will appear for a second then disappear.

the feeling i get from them is it's spirit, it lifts me, i don't know if it's angelic or pleiadian or something else - it could just be my aura. however i do get the impression it is guidance.


i'm not sure if it's my aura as they can appear 5-6 ft away from me.

what i'm wondering is what is it ? can it be utilised ? can i communicate with it more ?

Yeah, I've seen them ;)
Good looking aren't they
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Just letting you know that you are ain't the only one seeing 'light orbs' and that stuff...
if this is what you wanted to know... ;)

[rubenb]

yes I see the light. Like little balls of light roaming moving all around in the atmosphere of the heavens of the sky. Bombarding around fast and at all different rates of speed. Also it seems we as humans are apart of this atom like balls of light. It seems like I can make ONE manifest brightly before my eyes sight when I relax and calm my mind and realize.

I play guitar and when I do I concentrate on this LIGHT and the more I do, the more I see the other DOTS of light that are at certain points around. All these balls of light seem to be getting more and more abundant. I think its just going to add up to one giant light bloom of some kind.

I seen em today. I was listening to a LIVE broadcast of Alex Jones and was looking at the blue sky. I see these 'orbs' or what ever you would call them 'balls of light' moving all around like little spaceships in the heights of the air of the sky. They get closer to you the more you are willing to allow them to or you become consciously open and less fearful of what is HAPPENING.

When I meditate on "this most advanced state" ...things begin to happen and open up more on a broader picture. The words I hear LIVE on tv in the NOW seem to correlate with the broader conscious of the understanding of the experience universal in the NOW. All the DOTS of light in the world seem to connect and effect the whole. I see the TV announcers or people who are LIVE on tv...stumble, their words. Its like a peaking of something that is HAPPENING.

It's destroying all negative vibes and every aspect of evil spirited conclusions and judgments with its gossip.

The more I hold onto this view of the subliminal mind's profoundness of the awareness of what IS REALLY taking place in the consciousness ...the more the world ALL AROUND, is effected DIRECTLY by the energy which is jumping throughout.

It's effecting the negative people A LOT, they are seen for what they are. Their fruits are more understood in their craftiness. Everything is being REVEALED, through this effect of the light. Things are changing and its getting more and more accelerated day by day.

Though this chaotic energy that is, just,(justified), and is giving positive persons a more power and a feeling sensation of great vibes and increasing their awareness, I see the negative humans...getting more INSANE. More dark...though the light is good for them, they hate 'falling apart'. Having their whole dark world exposed. So ...I hate to think it or imagine it or even say it..., it seems...these negative ONES, are going to do things SO WRONG, so awful, so unimaginably HEARTLESS, though it is futile, try to cover up and DESTROY this awakening that is happening throughout.

They are going to try to diffuse it by trying to confuse. It's going to be hard for people to remain hopeful and focused on the positive perspective. Though they should be ASSURED the more and more they see the EVILS happening in the world. Because...this only signifies and makes you realize the rock solid JUSTICE of which it is going to serve each of us what we deserve.

I see these lights. I just wish I could play my guitar out in the open doors of the outside nature of the bloom of summer or spring because life seems more alive then. LIVE. Here and Now. The awakened consciousness realized. Destroying ALL the works of the darkness. If we could just gather together and harness this light. Increase it by becoming aware of it more in depth. Once we do this, everything else is easy to SEE, HEAR and understand. A profound understanding of life becomes amazingly beautiful and we see the blessings of everything and the negative of the disruptions.

When you get to this level of LIGHT throughout, you begin to see, how easy life takes care of itself and how everything is connected and how endless the possibilities are.

go here to read more of what I written on another thread about orbs
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434477&postcount=2
and here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434482&postcount=3

just to add...I don't see why we have to bail out the housing market. greedy lenders who made up the bills home owners can't afford because the agreement was forged in complex deceptions for profit. not to also blame it on them to much as the value of the dollar has been raped beyond belief. Also all the governments legislation over the years that slowly killed America's industries slowly but surly.
isn't it time to say get the hell out of our way so we can live free and become again the America we could be? No...we are just going to let these crooks keep running things and sell us out down the river further. Even when America had a chance at a great leader...we laughed and scoffed. Continuing to self inflict wounds upon ourselves by following the problem makers that got us into these problems to begin with. Lying politicians, the women that delude them, and us, and the money that has ballooned the government to the point where we have no money at all in our own hands, and allows for all kinds of hidden nails securing the coffin of a once former great American ideal.

"congress should be run out of the nations capitol" Lou Dobbs


everything you said sums up exactly whats been adding up in my head for the past couple months, weird because i play guitar as well. i see the orbs a lot they are amazing i usually go to this canyon and i can see them going on forever in every direction all through the city its amazing.

i also see lines sometimes, and in the middle a blob like a round circle almost looks like an eye and long random lines coming out of it and connecting with everything it comes close to... i dunno if anyone can get what i'm trying to say. i know exactly what i see but hard to put into words.

[clozaril]

yeah i'm wanting to understand it so for me after speaking with some energy workers they suggested writing down words and at least setting up some form of communication, asking questions which do not have a yes no answer.

firstly it needs to be aknowledged, secondly talk to it, and thirdly find out what it wants and the best way to communicate with it.

it's there to be utilised.

stuart wilde says it's the new incoming energy.

[tootrue]

yeah i'm wanting to understand it so for me after speaking with some energy workers they suggested writing down words and at least setting up some form of communication, asking questions which do not have a yes no answer.

.

well i don't know
from my experience they prefer silence, rather than talking!

[lakkimakki]

after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?

this has been with me for about 10yrs. i'm not proclaiming to be psychic, i see light, balls of light no bigger than an inch, these are definetly non-physical, they vary in color ususally pure white, electric blue or violet/purple sometimes they come when i'm reading a book on certain words or when i'm thinking of an idea one will appear for a second then disappear.

the feeling i get from them is it's spirit, it lifts me, i don't know if it's angelic or pleiadian or something else - it could just be my aura. however i do get the impression it is guidance.


i'm not sure if it's my aura as they can appear 5-6 ft away from me.

what i'm wondering is what is it ? can it be utilised ? can i communicate with it more ?


yeah im glad you posted this , i see same stuff , i made tread abouth this but someone deleted..... thay told me its scrying . :)

i think l someone is instrested in me !!

and one more thing i see sometimes shadows moving around .... im serious !! its kind a cool !!

[pinkfreud]

i 'stumbled' upon this thread and am i glad i did! :)

i see so many of you are either seeing orbs, auras, or smoke type thingys. i haven't seen any such, and i want to after hearing all the descriptions. it comes across as a beautiful spiritual experience, maybe i'm not elevated enough to feel or see it yet.

that said, i have noticed that when i close my eyes and concentrate on the darkness, i see a multitude of colourful stars/balls of light spinning around. it's magnificent, resembles the milky way in the sense that it looks like a miniature galaxy. i don't know if this is natural, so id be glad if someone here could tell me what that means. my guess is it's normal, but im just curious.

[deafbred]

...that said, i have noticed that when i close my eyes and concentrate on the darkness, i see a multitude of colorful stars/balls of light spinning around. it's magnificent, resembles the milky way in the sense that it looks like a miniature galaxy. i don't know if this is natural, so id be glad if someone here could tell me what that means. my guess is it's normal, but im just curious.

"a miniature galaxy" --exactly

...it happened a lot when I was younger but it was like yeh...you close your eyes ...become aware, and observe but relax, ...stars...its like... falling back u kind of loose your orientation and start flying through space... you go with it and it gets more intense...like...I thought for a while...could this be seizureish type brain activity? ...I tend to think not...but there is definitely a spectrum correlation comparison perspective that could relate to broader understanding. Physically...the experience is very...roller coastery for me...at times your light like a feather or grounded like a 40giga-ton rock mass...---but its very ...out of body type existence on unfounded ground but very real...and deserving of research.


hmm...my spirit floats on the water of my life

[pinkfreud]

"a miniature galaxy" --exactly

...it happened a lot when I was younger but it was like yeh...you close your eyes ...become aware, and observe but relax, ...stars...its like... falling back u kind of loose your orientation and start flying through space... you go with it and it gets more intense...like...I thought for a while...could this be seizureish type brain activity? ...I tend to think not...but there is definitely a spectrum correlation comparison perspective that could relate to broader understanding. Physically...the experience is very...roller coastery for me...at times your light like a feather or grounded like a 40giga-ton rock mass...---but its very ...out of body type existence on unfounded ground but very real...and deserving of research.

wow. thanks for that.. i wasn't sure if it was something spiritual because when you close your eyes on a hot sunny day you tend to see a bright light coming in from the darkness. i was of the opinion that this would be something similar as well, but when i asked my mom and friends to try it the just couldn't 'spot' the stars.

i don't feel any change in my body, though if i concentrate long enough my head begins to whirl, just a wee bit. could you just explain the 'seizurish activity' bit? that made me think, because my dad passed away due to a brain haemorrhage (aneurysm), so im kinda predisposed to it and i would be interested in knowing if this is, in any way, related to brain activity.

[stinky catz]

I've just started meditating and I now start to see little balls of light from what I read too. I also start to see auras, but I'm not quite there yet. I can also see little flashes of light from peoples head (when they think?), but I don't see it all the time. Its really cool :)

[astro zombie]

I can also see little flashes of light from peoples head (when they think?), but I don't see it all the time. Its really cool :)
Maybe this is where the image of a lightbulb going off above someone's head originates from?:)

[clozaril]

I've just started meditating and I now start to see little balls of light from what I read too. I also start to see auras, but I'm not quite there yet. I can also see little flashes of light from peoples head (when they think?), but I don't see it all the time. Its really cool :)

beautiful. as for me i'm still unclear as to wether it's me (my subconcsious or my own energetic field)

i'm writing down the words still.

when i see it coming from people i am a little unsophisticated in that depending from the side of the body i would take it to be positive or negative as well as the side of brain signifying that they were using intuitive thought and if it comes from there stomach area the person is wanting to communicate on an emotional level.

:)

[clozaril]

there are a couple of books out i have yet to read

mysterious orbs by michelle brennan
incredible light beings of the cosmos by antonia scott-clark

[sk8erboi]

My partner has been seeing similar orbs of light to what you describe for years. He sees predominantly indigo/blue/purple orbs, and generally only when something is of spiritual significance. The more significant something is, the larger they are. His mother has also been seeing these for years since she got in touch with her spirituality.

From the distance you say that the orbs are away from you, it is unlikely that you are seening your aura. Take comfort in the orbs that you see, and take from it the guidance that you can. The fact that you are seeing them means that you are on the right path. Just go with it and try not to overanalyse it.

[tonak]

Everytime i see anything similiar to this, i try to focus on it, and it disapears...

[lakkimakki]

Everytime i see anything similiar to this, i try to focus on it, and it disapears...

yeah same here , they told me thats --scrying

--
so someone is watching you:)

[clozaril]

i've ordered 'incredible light beings of the cosmos' by antonia scott-clark.

yeah skaterboi high vibrational colours. the thing is i think we need to get into it, you know communicate with the light understand it and/or work with it. it's happening and here for some purpose.

[free1]

I see these too! Have been seeing very bright flashes of colour for a few years now. absolutely beautiful. Purple or blue. Sometimes when I'm just relaxing - never when I will them to show up. Don't know what they are or mean but have assumed it is a good thing. Am I seeing another dimension or are they beings from another reality? Spirit guides ?Who knows? :rolleyes: It is a relief to know it's not just me!

[turbine]

after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?

this has been with me for about 10yrs. i'm not proclaiming to be psychic, i see light, balls of light no bigger than an inch, these are definetly non-physical, they vary in color ususally pure white, electric blue or violet/purple sometimes they come when i'm reading a book on certain words or when i'm thinking of an idea one will appear for a second then disappear.

the feeling i get from them is it's spirit, it lifts me, i don't know if it's angelic or pleiadian or something else - it could just be my aura. however i do get the impression it is guidance.


i'm not sure if it's my aura as they can appear 5-6 ft away from me.

what i'm wondering is what is it ? can it be utilised ? can i communicate with it more ?

I see lights all the time. But there was one time it really shocked me. Before christmas 2007, I was watching tv when I decided to go for a drink so when I came back I jumped onto the seat and all of a sudden a huge triangle of yellow light appeared and it was like teardrops flowing downwards. It lasted for about 5-8 seconds but it was really odd. I even moved my head and the were still in the same place.

[lakkimakki]

ok this is how i see that light. ok I'm watching TV and then Suddenly Bright Light appears

http://i40.tinypic.com/261yxlg.jpg

i try to focus on it, and it disapears...

---its not always at same position ...

[free1]

Absolutely. That's just how it is for me. Big purple splashes or blue ones. Then gone. I think this phenomenon is a good thing. it's other worldly. I love it!:)

[lightgiver]

after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?

this has been with me for about 10yrs. i'm not proclaiming to be psychic, i see light, balls of light no bigger than an inch, these are definetly non-physical, they vary in color ususally pure white, electric blue or violet/purple sometimes they come when i'm reading a book on certain words or when i'm thinking of an idea one will appear for a second then disappear.

the feeling i get from them is it's spirit, it lifts me, i don't know if it's angelic or pleiadian or something else - it could just be my aura. however i do get the impression it is guidance.


i'm not sure if it's my aura as they can appear 5-6 ft away from me.

what i'm wondering is what is it ? can it be utilised ? can i communicate with it more ?

Hi clozaril:)

seeing you posted them extremely good vids on the illuminati section thought you may be interested in this,

.why is the term "light" so frequently used and preferred throughout the Christian scriptures, to denote the spiritual condition of man? Why are nations, whose minds are cultivated and stored with knowledge, said to be "enlightened?"...simply because all knowledge was once supposed to be imparted by the God of the sun through its descending rays of light. Hence light and knowledge are now synonymous terms

Kersey Graves
(Bible of Bibles, 1863 AD)

Light As Thought

What light is to the outer physical world, intellect is to the inner world of consciousness - Arthur Schopenhauer.

I will put the rest on the Illuminati section;):)

[clozaril]

Hi clozaril:)

seeing you posted them extremely good vids on the illuminati section thought you may be interested in this,

.why is the term "light" so frequently used and preferred throughout the Christian scriptures, to denote the spiritual condition of man? Why are nations, whose minds are cultivated and stored with knowledge, said to be "enlightened?"...simply because all knowledge was once supposed to be imparted by the God of the sun through its descending rays of light. Hence light and knowledge are now synonymous terms

Kersey Graves
(Bible of Bibles, 1863 AD)

Light As Thought

What light is to the outer physical world, intellect is to the inner world of consciousness - Arthur Schopenhauer.

I will put the rest on the Illuminati section;):)

thanks lightgiver :)

great quotes

[clozaril]

ok this is how i see that light. ok I'm watching TV and then Suddenly Bright Light appears

http://i40.tinypic.com/261yxlg.jpg

i try to focus on it, and it disapears...

---its not always at same position ...

yeah thats it what colours do you get ?

it's not always in he same place, could be closer, further away, different sides etc.

is it when you are straight when you have moments of clarity insights? for instance when you are thinking of something the light will appear to confirm your thought like an agreement. or to push you on. like it agrees with the course of action you thought about.

also if you are watching tv does it appear when certain words are spoken ? words related to consciousness or illumination, revelation, enlightenment ?

also it comes as a comforter if you are feeling sad it will appear and light up for you.

i'm looking at the creations of crop-circles at the moment as these some to be created by light. is it the same light the same intelligence.

[lakkimakki]

yeah thats it what colours do you get ?

it's not always in he same place, could be closer, further away, different sides etc.

is it when you are straight when you have moments of clarity insights? for instance when you are thinking of something the light will appear to confirm your thought like an agreement. or to push you on. like it agrees with the course of action you thought about.

also if you are watching tv does it appear when certain words are spoken ? words related to consciousness or illumination, revelation, enlightenment ?

also it comes as a comforter if you are feeling sad it will appear and light up for you.

i'm looking at the creations of crop-circles at the moment as these some to be created by light. is it the same light the same intelligence.

- bright white, I don't remember any others.

also if you are watching tv does it appear when certain words are spoken ? words related to consciousness or illumination, revelation, enlightenment ?

- never paid attention to it,"I'll Check It Out" next TIME

[clozaril]

anyone like to add to the thread ? :)

[marpat]

yeah thats it what colours do you get ?

it's not always in he same place, could be closer, further away, different sides etc.

is it when you are straight when you have moments of clarity insights? for instance when you are thinking of something the light will appear to confirm your thought like an agreement. or to push you on. like it agrees with the course of action you thought about.

also if you are watching tv does it appear when certain words are spoken ? words related to consciousness or illumination, revelation, enlightenment ?

also it comes as a comforter if you are feeling sad it will appear and light up for you.

i'm looking at the creations of crop-circles at the moment as these some to be created by light. is it the same light the same intelligence.

I tend to see moving clouds of coloured light when relaxing or going to sleep and it doesnt matter if my eyes are open or closed. I often see bright sparks of light that come and go and they are generally white although I have also seen blue and red ones.

[lakkimakki]

lolz no more light bulbs here , i Disappointed Someone i love :o

[clozaril]

I tend to see moving clouds of coloured light when relaxing or going to sleep and it doesnt matter if my eyes are open or closed. I often see bright sparks of light that come and go and they are generally white although I have also seen blue and red ones.

yeah those sparks of light, thats it.

lolz no more light bulbs here , i Disappointed Someone i love :o

really ? they'll come back, the light thats is :)

[lakkimakki]

they?

[trappedinameatsuit]

after the posts about what colour is your aura, i am interested in who sees light?

this has been with me for about 10yrs. i'm not proclaiming to be psychic, i see light, balls of light no bigger than an inch, these are definetly non-physical, they vary in color ususally pure white, electric blue or violet/purple sometimes they come when i'm reading a book on certain words or when i'm thinking of an idea one will appear for a second then disappear.

the feeling i get from them is it's spirit, it lifts me, i don't know if it's angelic or pleiadian or something else - it could just be my aura. however i do get the impression it is guidance.


i'm not sure if it's my aura as they can appear 5-6 ft away from me.

what i'm wondering is what is it ? can it be utilised ? can i communicate with it more ?
I see them at random, can't control it. I can see auras if I focus but don't like people thinking I am staring. I can see my aura without focusing if I am really sleepy, when I am content it is around the range of this color., just a tiny bit lighter. Where is the Aura thread? Anyone got a link? I haven't found it. Will start looking unless someone post a link before I find it.

[lyrag]

I also see lights and 'orbs' although only some of them seem 'spirit' like because sometimes i will just see the lights floating past, usually small. around 3 inches. Then like the other night i get times when i have big ones 6-8 inches 'watching' me is the only way to describe the feelings i get from them, i cant decide whether they are good or bad. The other night for the first time ever a very large white orb that looked like a MOON, floated into the room, stayed for a few seconds, then went again. a while ago i thought i had one of these moon like orbs on camera, but everyone kept telling me it was the moons reflection even though the moon was not full that night and this one on camera was...
Just lately i also see very small sparks of blue flying off of me, like when i move my hands around...

[hey_jude]

I've been seeing small sparkles of light usually silver blue in colour they manifest in seconds and are gone almost as quickly. I usually see them when reading or painting/drawing sometimes on the page of a book sometimes after meditation and mostly 3-5 feet away.

I don't feel anxious when they appear I enjoy the feeling I get when this happens. I wrote about it in the thread below last November... I was told this was a light being making contact or the light filtering through the matrix - both sound cool to me!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058419975#post1058419975

[deafbred]

could you just explain the 'seizurish activity' bit?

yes. it is like the starfield simulation screensaver on the computer. i would close my eyes.. and somtimes.. the light dots/balls/orbs get to be so many, that at a certian point i being to travel towards them, seems to be like outer space. like i am going through the universe or traveling at hyper speed through a vortex.. the stars begin to move fast past me VERY intensly, but it only lasts for a few seconds. i loose all orientation to my body and where im at, its like an out of body experience. i'v never had a seizure before, but i imagined it must be like that...

http://thm-a04.yimg.com/image/9f82b90f7baa1134
http://www.goloads.com/showsnap.php?file=5380
http://www.softcetera.com/screenshots/zerge-com/stars-3-screensaver_small.png


ok this is how i see that light. ok I'm watching TV and then Suddenly Bright Light appears

http://i40.tinypic.com/261yxlg.jpg

i try to focus on it, and it disapears...

---its not always at same position ...

Yes! Exactly how i experience it to. Balls of light above in the atmosphere.. but from what i see so far, its actually light within. Cuz when I close my eyes, the light is still there.


also if you are watching tv does it appear when certain words are spoken ? words related to consciousness or illumination, revelation, enlightenment ?


This! Is! Exactly! What I'v surmised! Exactly! Spot On! These are the conclusions I've noticed* I've written about it here and there on the david icke forum. It's like a worldwide conciousness, and when the LIGHT appears and the orbs are lit.. my conciousness is awake and focused.. tuned and honed to the light.. which puts everything into perspective.

Here is one example, I write about it here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1022641&postcount=23


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=426323&postcount=26

[herzmeister]

I posted my experiences a while ago over at Inward Quest (http://www.inwardquest.com/):


I have a light within.

I see it when I close my eyes. Not always, but I seem to be able to "call it" when it's not there. It is not the afterglows of the retina, although i see those colourful patterns too of course. But what I mean is a different quality. It is white and it's rotating, quite similar to the light of a lighthouse.

I've been seeing it for almost ten years. Back then I really had a very deep mystical experience. I was pulled out of my body and I was flying to an overwhelming light corona which I understand is somehow the source of souls, where we are all coming from, or at least an outpost of it. ;-)

It strangely lifted me out of all the pain I had back then, it just was taken from me and I could leave it behind like meaningless dead ashes. It was an intense experience and a proof for me that we are indeed more than just bodies.

I put this question here because I would love to learn about similar experiences that you might have had. And also I'd like to know how to properly call those things so that I could do some more research. ;-)


Some people have posted interesting answers: "What is my light within?" at InwardQuest.com (http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/1469/what-is-my-light-within)

[deafbred]

Quote:
It is white and it's rotating, quite similar to the light of a lighthouse.


Yes :) heh...... amazing how you see the SAME THING! for me it is the same exact way. a rotating like. almost seems like 2 lights, one going clockwise, the other going counter? Like Ying Yang intermingling.


Wow, you see the exact same thing i do. i try to get closer to it, it doesn't shine as good if i don't train myself and focus often.




rotating lighthouse light, that's it



in all the blackness.. a light, swirling.. how cool u spot on describe it

thanks for posting herzmeister

your links provided answers are pretty spot on, like this one
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I can't answer all of your questions, but here's my take on your experience. The eyes have sometimes been referred to as the lamp of the body. Where the eyes are "good" in the sense that one's focus and attention are on that which is "good", then the body is full of light. The significance of seeing the light with your eyes closed, seems to me to be that you are being directed inward to seek the "good." It would be consistent with the positive, mystical, out-of-body experience you had which left you with a very positive, good experience to inspire you to pursue your spiritual development. The light, I believe, is a beckoning to you to take your quest inward, to find the growing points you need to focus on at this point in your life.

I had a dream when I was a child which was before I had ever heard of near-death experiences, but upon hearing of these experiences later in life, I recognized that my dream was just like those who spoke of leaving their body and traveling toward a light. The light I arrived at in my dream was in a room where I found my grandfather and other loved ones who had died. I felt warmth, love and acceptance there, but decided I wanted to go home. From my room, I watched the light recede in the distance away from me. In a subsequent poem about the dream, I wrote that I wished I could have "abandoned my fear, so to stay [with the light and loved ones]."

The light represented peace, love and fellowship. Conversely, my fear is what kept me from remaining in that state. Overcoming fear is a challenge I must work on from time to time to recover a fuller experience of peace, love and fellowship in the here and now.

I mention this to point out that the light is intended to be a beacon to draw us toward it. You already pointed out that yours was "the source of souls." It would seem that you are being drawn/called into a deeper experience of the wisdom and knowledge available from the source of souls that you will find by turning inward toward that light within.



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I also, found, that when I hone and focus on this light, with my eyes intently intensely focused open, that tears begin to fall from my eyes... it is not due to dry eye or crying, but the eye relaxes and releases some kind of bad tension. like heat leaves the eyes as the good resonates the eyes to be more open and effectively improves my eye sight. I noticed to that when I use to do this that, people would say to me, "you have amazingly beautiful eyes"


the above poster who responded to your post describes peace and love and fellowship when focused on this light. in the past, when i have achieved heights of vibrational essence.. and love, I would turn on the tv, and 'effect' the LIVE broadcast, people would stumble their words and have freudian slips in the LIVE~vibe-time, and a more pure consciousness of confession was understood and seen/heard on a broader scale of .. revealing. Sharpening the dull roads we been traveling on. Its like.. eternal time vibrationally comes alive.





THIS is SOoooooo KEY! Soooo KEY!!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOO KEY!




in an above post, I point to a link that describes it 'The LIVE vibe time' consciousness stream.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...1&postcount=23

I've written about it in the past, and have deleted a many a good post. People didn't understand what I was saying. They didn't "Get it" because they couldn't hear what I was saying, because they were on a conscious level that was below the higher height. I hope to in the future here on the David Icke forums, to get back to that state again, and write some posts ..of my eternal spirit Hearing and expressing the LIVE vibe time Global understanding , which connects us all, good and bad. the CONNECTIONS of consciousness which intermingle amongst the human speech. IT IS TRULY PROFOUND and naked truth.




Its like a tidal wave of sight and hearing that evil deception cannot press over. Everything gets put into a perspective that is undeniable. The senses do not lie. Especially when they are refined. Its only a matter of time now. Before that day, of breaking point.. makes things change, so fast, so instantly.. that... there is no going back, to the old style of things in the MAINSTREAM consciousness.




everyone around the globe "coherent" when expressing their LIVE vibe time words.. in the LIGHT- connections of the dots of synchronicity - explains the view which goes hand in hand, by each one of us. things hidden are revealed. no more deception, or wasting time. or distracting. things become LIT throughout the entire spectrum of all.

[deafbred]

alright here is a picture that i found on this forum from one of the members avitars.


http://i45.tinypic.com/29yi0br.jpg

this is what i see when i zoom in with my mind and the small ball of rotating light is closer. it revolves in an 8 patern shape turned sideways. two balls go in and out rotating around the track of the 8. it may represent the eyes light, it seems that way. or its the third eye with the 2 hemispheres of the brain activity energizing its course perpetually in the motion of life.


here below is an image for now i best describe the experience. an ambient light track course is left behind in the RUN of the TWO balls of light. they revolve and Im not sure exactly which way they are going or how it twists around or what, but it is like this effect.

http://i46.tinypic.com/30lnfd1.jpg

[lakkimakki]

http://i46.tinypic.com/w7etk2.jpg

[ellis_deatrip]

.......Although not as often overthe years seemsto be phases 95 was another strong year for their appearance .Mostly white but occasionally coloured pink blue purple .......
1995! exactly the year when i saw the orb. I refer to it in singular form because it was always the same size and color . About the size of a soccer/futbol and glowing a bright bluish-white light . Like that of a white LED flashlight . the first sighting i was with my roommate , and it went across the window, and she saw it too. After that ,the list goes on,I moved to a new house and it even followed me in addition to seeing the orb now and then , I also witnessed alot of paranormal activity during that time