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steppewar
27-07-2008, 07:59 AM
I've not seen this mentioned before. By experiencing levitation or telekenesis, I mean can any of you do it, do you know anyone who can do it, or have you seen it done?

And I don't mean by David Blaine or any other professional magician/performer.

I'm asking about real life experiences.

Ian2day
27-07-2008, 08:18 AM
I've seen something that could really only be explained in two ways. One there was a hidden magnet or the object moved with no visible external force.

kashmirz
27-07-2008, 08:38 AM
No, however i am currently seeking books on these two things as they are both two of my goals in life.

ohforf
27-07-2008, 08:41 AM
I have moved a book from a bookshelf and made it fall to the ground. I could feel the resistance of the book as I pushed it but it felt very weird and it was as though my brain was actually pushing. It's very difficult to explain the feeling.

I have no idea how I done it and have never been able to do it again.

chris
27-07-2008, 09:42 AM
I had a dream once when I was meditating, I kept starting to levitate...I guess it's the same thing when you have dreams that you can fly or float...As soon as you realise it and try to show someone, you can no longer do it:D

I think it is possible to do both but it's not for normal people like you or me.

chris
27-07-2008, 09:44 AM
If you read "autobiography of a yogi" there's a section of it about "The levitating saint" which might interest you. I've also seen video's of monks levitating and that was actually the day before I had the dream about levitating...

talkingchimp
27-07-2008, 10:04 AM
its all horseshit. i would suggest stock piling food and preparing for the hard times coming rather than drifting down this road.

chris
27-07-2008, 10:20 AM
its all horseshit. i would suggest stock piling food and preparing for the hard times coming rather than drifting down this road.

I agree in a way because people that usually do go into this fluffyness seem to make no prepairations regarding food and weapons. But still, there's no harm in entertaining the possibilities.

allure
27-07-2008, 10:23 AM
Here's a true, totally unexplainable event I have been talking about regularly since the day it happened; around 20 years ago.

I was a kid, me and a friend were playing a prank on many other kids from our street. My friend hid inside my house, inside a closet where he was able to touch two wires together which made the front door bell ring. I gathered the other kids outside my front door telling them there was a ghost in my house and it was communicating via the doorbell.

I had told my friend that after I rang the twice, wait around 5 seconds and ring once in response.

We did this a few times, the kids from my street were amazed and freaked out.

Now, I started to embellish and told them that if I rang it three times, the letterbox would wrap by itself.

In my mind I had already thought about what I was going to say when this didn't happen. It couldn't have happened, it was a 'spring loaded' letterbox that could only be pushed in and was so tight it sometimes shredded newspapers. Also, the front door and its surround were made of glass and the hallway was clearly seen to be empty.

I rang the doorbell 3 times, stepped back, about 5 seconds later the letterbox inexplicably was pushed in, held for about 1 second and then slammed shut.

Me and all the other kids screamed and ran away.

Since that day I've pondered over what caused this. A spirit? Or was it the belief and expectation of the 6-7 kids there expecting to see it happen?

Who knows. But it is completely unexplainable, it really happened, and I've been retelling this story on a regular basis this past 20 years.

kblood
27-07-2008, 11:12 AM
I have tried levitation, but cant seem to do it without a huge audience. Telekinesis I only remember having done to people, not objects. It could be due to making the person believe it to be true, but then it seems unlikely. I gave a guy a blue eye without touching him, and I made a person running away trip and fall. He had his back to me and I wasnt saying anything to him that would make him think about falling.

I might have done it to objects as well though, but it has been a few years now since I did either telekinises or levitation. I find it easier to do telekinesis using gestures though, with my hands. It helps me visualise and feel it happening.

chris
27-07-2008, 11:30 AM
Here's a true, totally unexplainable event I have been talking about regularly since the day it happened; around 20 years ago.

I was a kid, me and a friend were playing a prank on many other kids from our street. My friend hid inside my house, inside a closet where he was able to touch two wires together which made the front door bell ring. I gathered the other kids outside my front door telling them there was a ghost in my house and it was communicating via the doorbell.

I had told my friend that after I rang the twice, wait around 5 seconds and ring once in response.

We did this a few times, the kids from my street were amazed and freaked out.

Now, I started to embellish and told them that if I rang it three times, the letterbox would wrap by itself.

In my mind I had already thought about what I was going to say when this didn't happen. It couldn't have happened, it was a 'spring loaded' letterbox that could only be pushed in and was so tight it sometimes shredded newspapers. Also, the front door and its surround were made of glass and the hallway was clearly seen to be empty.

I rang the doorbell 3 times, stepped back, about 5 seconds later the letterbox inexplicably was pushed in, held for about 1 second and then slammed shut.

Me and all the other kids screamed and ran away.

Since that day I've pondered over what caused this. A spirit? Or was it the belief and expectation of the 6-7 kids there expecting to see it happen?

Who knows. But it is completely unexplainable, it really happened, and I've been retelling this story on a regular basis this past 20 years.

lol that's a hilarious story! I think everyone has experienced things which just baffle them forever...I remember when I was about 8 playing in the park with some kids much older than I was. They were thinking they were all cool for smoking and one of them was a cunt and decided to extinguish a cigrette on my face. At the time I had seen "Terminator 2" where the guy does the same thing with a cigar and the terminator is totally unphased by it...So I thought that cigrettes didn't burn so it extinguished and I wiped the ash off my face and everyone was amazed. The guy that did it seemed to realise he went way to far and he actually was always nice to me after that and I guess he was so relieved that he didn't disfigure a little kid for life. He knew that if that did happen, he would have been in so much trouble because just imagine if someone did that to your son of friends son.

emanuel
27-07-2008, 11:58 AM
I agree in a way because people that usually do go into this fluffyness seem to make no prepairations regarding food and weapons.

Food and weapons??? what??? Tptb 'own' the physical realm! What difference are you gonna make and how well do you think you will be able to defend yourself with a 'weapon' against their armies and their kind of weapons?? Tptb would have nothing to worry about if everyone thought like this because they would just be spectators while we run around killing each other. :rolleyes:

Not having a dig, though that is probably how it seems. Sorry. :D

kblood
27-07-2008, 12:39 PM
When it comes to weapons I have to agree. I am still surprised how many claim they need weapons in order to be able to fight back, or just in general for self protection. Weapons in my oppinion more often makes the wielder and people around him or her a target or even more of a target than without the weapon.

3stepsahead
27-07-2008, 01:57 PM
i believe this may be something that Can be true but not in a few million years. dont think anyone can do it, but seeing the world as pure energy it is very likely that it is possible to do, somewhere in time.

not elaborating any more but
those guys that bend spoons and stuff.. i think thats a hoax too.

reminds me of this video Kiai Master vs MMA - YouTube
graphic so be adviced :)

chris
27-07-2008, 03:47 PM
Food and weapons??? what??? Tptb 'own' the physical realm! What difference are you gonna make and how well do you think you will be able to defend yourself with a 'weapon' against their armies and their kind of weapons?? Tptb would have nothing to worry about if everyone thought like this because they would just be spectators while we run around killing each other. :rolleyes:

Not having a dig, though that is probably how it seems. Sorry. :D

Yes, the standard liberal response. Why does America need a hardcore police state while other countries do not? Because they are armed.

They don't own the physical realm, only it's paper money. It needs cohersion to do the rest. There will be a lot of waking up from the inside and it's already happening. People are showing 9/11 dvds to the army right as we speak. Your not going to ascend into heaven and even if you were, why not be prepaired if you don't?

This thinking is so ironic because I bet your not a monk sitting in the mountain meditating all day. Your probably just like the rest of us, there is not going to be a big awakening or dimensional shift coming to rescue you. You're going to have to fight them in some way or another. Yes we are extremely fucked but that doesn't mean we should go into fantasy land and stick our heads in the sand. And you don't even think you're going to need food?

I'm not saying you will need them, I'm just saying it's very likely because once they are knocking on peoples doors and taking them away to concentration camps, it's over. Either get the fuck out of there or fight them while you still can. Did your thinking help the Tibetans?

When it comes to weapons I have to agree. I am still surprised how many claim they need weapons in order to be able to fight back, or just in general for self protection. Weapons in my oppinion more often makes the wielder and people around him or her a target or even more of a target than without the weapon.

It doesn't mean you should go looking for a fight, stay away as much as possible but what happens if people are in gangs looting peoples houses and you have nothing to defend yourself with?

I am still surprised how many claim they need weapons in order to be able to fight back, or just in general for self protection.

Well what are you going to do, ask them nicely? Or have you perfected Tiger style? I don't want to get into a confrontation at all but their whole idea is to disarm the population, don't fall for their propaganda that they are all powerful, they are weak as soon as we show we won't back down, they will run and hide. There is absolutely nothing they can do against us, they can only win if we conscent to them. There is absolutely no way they can cover a martial law big enough without them being extremely vunerable. This isn't even if we consider the inner awakening going on in the military.

emanuel
27-07-2008, 05:12 PM
Okay, first, I don't think some spiritual something is going to save me, I am not a religious man at all. Second, there are very many who have no idea what it is we know, so in effect they will quite literally be loose cannons! the irony is that the only threat among us are people who's train of thought end with 'grab a gun', no matter what the background. The best outcome in a fight is that it does not happen in the first place.

Now, lets look at defending ourselves against tptb. We can't, in a physical sense, because their weapons are far more sophisticated, we may had well be trying to defend ourselves with balls of fluff and a big fat target painted on our chest. Want proof, look at the people of Iraq. So they have gun's! So what! They still get slaughtered at the touch of a button. Fighting fire with fire is one thing but what you're talking about is fighting fire with a matchstick. Clever. Well thought out strategy. Please excuse the sarcasm but the only damage that guns amongst the people can do is on the people. That is a fact, clear as day.

Okay, so next lets look at the 'spiritual' element. By the spirit I mean your consciousness, the awareness that drives the vehicle that you refer to as your body. I personally think that the human being ('being', not just 'the body') is far more powerful a unit than people think! That is part of the supression. Knowledge of what it is to be complete, to be pure and natural, has been hammered out of mankind over a very long period of time. Take a step back, look at EVERYTHING you do and everything around you and tell me it is natural, born of the earth, not man made! Nothing, not one thing, except maybe a flower in a vase on the table or your pet cat in the window....

Even our actions and reactions in our lives are not entirely natural. If our environment i completely unnatural, how then can you be acting or reacting naturally. My point here is that you (not you personally chris) do not have the first clue what it is to be a pure human being, completely natural, because of your ignorance of it (which is not your fault), and therefore have no idea how powerful the human being truly is. They say wild animals have a sixth sense, that they can see things that we cannot like spirits and such. Maybe that is because their natural way of life was not ripped out of them from day one, they are born into their natural being and left there, where as we are born straight into an unnatural environment and corrupted immediately without a chance of learning what we truly are. Maybe answers why our ancestors worshiped animals, because they are not as easily corruptable, which is why in nature they are so much more advanced (in the hunter gatherer sense). Notice how domestic animals need vaccinating these days....? Domestic (our way) = weak!

Fuck the guns and figure out who and, more importantly, what you are and the answer to that, my gun loving friends, may be the defining factor in our struggle that puts us in a position on par with the 'elite' bastards that have put so much effort into disconnecting us from nature! That is the key here! They....disconnected....us.....from.....nature.... ! WHY? Because of the power it holds, maybe?!!?! ;)

And.......relax. *mopping brow*

Oh and one other thing. Maybe it is their intent to disarm us that then plants the idea in our mind that weapons are something we need. Reverse psycology works a treat eh?! :D

I know I went on a bit but fuck me, the idea of people running for guns scares me more than tptb to be quite honest.

Oh and don't worry about food. Mother nature has a knack of growing it for us! All you need worry about is whether your domestic tummy can remember how to digest it! :)

chris
27-07-2008, 05:46 PM
Okay, first, I don't think some spiritual something is going to save me, I am not a religious man at all. Second, there are very many who have no idea what it is we know, so in effect they will quite literally be loose cannons! the irony is that the only threat among us are people who's train of thought end with 'grab a gun', no matter what the background. The best outcome in a fight is that it does not happen in the first place.


Well that's what I said as well. I don't want a fight but if it comes then I might as well have at least a knife or baseballbat or anything if they are coming to take me to a concentration camp. There's no way I'm going there, that is the biggest failure of all.

Now, lets look at defending ourselves against tptb. We can't, in a physical sense, because their weapons are far more sophisticated, we may had well be trying to defend ourselves with balls of fluff and a big fat target painted on our chest. Want proof, look at the people of Iraq. So they have gun's! So what! They still get slaughtered at the touch of a button. Fighting fire with fire is one thing but what you're talking about is fighting fire with a matchstick. Clever. Well thought out strategy. Please excuse the sarcasm but the only damage that guns amongst the people can do is on the people. That is a fact, clear as day.

You are wrong about Iraq, they are putting up a big fight there and have absolutely nothing in terms of equipment, training and arms.

Let's look at numbers, the biggest war right now is in Iraq, there are multiple nations there and it's own police force trying to keep order. You think they can manage to do the same thing all the way through the West? That's a joke, there will be nothing they can do against us, they will be spread so thin it would be childsplay. All they can hope for is that we go silently along with their plan. That's all it is...Right there, nothing else. They can't stop us, they can only fool us Mars attack style.

Okay, so next lets look at the 'spiritual' element. By the spirit I mean your consciousness, the awareness that drives the vehicle that you refer to as your body. I personally think that the human being ('being', not just 'the body') is far more powerful a unit than people think! That is part of the supression. Knowledge of what it is to be complete, to be pure and natural, has been hammered out of mankind over a very long period of time. Take a step back, look at EVERYTHING you do and everything around you and tell me it is natural, born of the earth, not man made! Nothing, not one thing, except maybe a flower in a vase on the table or your pet cat in the window....

Even our actions and reactions in our lives are not entirely natural. If our environment i completely unnatural, how then can you be acting or reacting naturally. My point here is that you (not you personally chris) do not have the first clue what it is to be a pure human being, completely natural, because of your ignorance of it (which is not your fault), and therefore have no idea how powerful the human being truly is. They say wild animals have a sixth sense, that they can see things that we cannot like spirits and such. Maybe that is because their natural way of life was not ripped out of them from day one, they are born into their natural being and left there, where as we are born straight into an unnatural environment and corrupted immediately without a chance of learning what we truly are. Maybe answers why our ancestors worshiped animals, because they are not as easily corruptable, which is why in nature they are so much more advanced (in the hunter gatherer sense). Notice how domestic animals need vaccinating these days....? Domestic (our way) = weak!

Fuck the guns and figure out who and, more importantly, what you are and the answer to that, my gun loving friends, may be the defining factor in our struggle that puts us in a position on par with the 'elite' bastards that have put so much effort into disconnecting us from nature! That is the key here! They....disconnected....us.....from.....nature.... ! WHY? Because of the power it holds, maybe?!!?! ;)

And.......relax. *mopping brow*

Oh and one other thing. Maybe it is their intent to disarm us that then plants the idea in our mind that weapons are something we need. Reverse psycology works a treat eh?! :D

I know I went on a bit but fuck me, the idea of people running for guns scares me more than tptb to be quite honest.

Oh and don't worry about food. Mother nature has a knack of growing it for us! All you need worry about is whether your domestic tummy can remember how to digest it! :)

I'm not saying delete the spiritual side and take up arms, I'm just not saying drop your weapons and become superman. I say do both.

I don't own a gun or anything, there's no way to get my hands on one but be armed at least. How come being a warrior and a monk have gone hand in hand throughout history? They are linked because we need to defend our spiritual freedom.

emanuel
27-07-2008, 06:30 PM
And what happened to the warrior and the monk? The Shaolin Temple was burnt down and only a few survived, for example. Why? because they showed their hand!

A gun or any weapon will not help you. What training have you had just to be able to deal with average joe on the street?

(this wont happen) If everybody, as one people, walked out of their houses and into the street and stood before our controllers and said 'We aren't playing your game anymore', what could they do? what would they do?? They can't arrest us all!

If, when the time comes, we all pull out a gun screaming 'over my dead body' then that is all they need to call in an airstrike! Do you see what I'm saying?

I do agree in being mentally, physically and spiritually prepared but I think the emphasis at this point should be on the spiritual and the physical should complement the spiritual not rule it with chaotic, misguided concepts of 'defense'.

IMO :D

chris
27-07-2008, 07:48 PM
And what happened to the warrior and the monk? The Shaolin Temple was burnt down and only a few survived, for example. Why? because they showed their hand!

They should have had better weapons...The Native Americans put up a good fight, it was just our biological attack that really fucked them.

The American Scout was the best warrior of all time and deeply spiritual. Why do you think we have to separate the phsyical with the non physical?

A gun or any weapon will not help you. What training have you had just to be able to deal with average joe on the street?

They aren't going to just come out like zombies and attack...Our best tactic is to organise and help each other. It's just your conditioning has made you believe that everyone who wants to have the option to defend themself will automatically reach for the sword. It is the last option but I'd rather have it than not.

(this wont happen) If everybody, as one people, walked out of their houses and into the street and stood before our controllers and said 'We aren't playing your game anymore', what could they do? what would they do?? They can't arrest us all!

Gundi's peaceful non-complience is by far the most powerful weapon in our infantary. There is absolutely nothing they can do to stop this because as soon as they try, people see we really do live in a fascist dictatorship and we win. There is nothing they can do to stop it, we need to organise to make this our number one tactic. Boycots are absolutely devistating, just look at apartite in South Africa, they are scared of this the most. Yet again, just because I said to be prepaired doesn't mean charge the brigades. Have you watched "Bowling for Columbine?" In that film, MM finds that being a psycho has nothing to do with owning a gun but the whole tone of the film attacks gun owners, extremely weird propaganda.

If, when the time comes, we all pull out a gun screaming 'over my dead body' then that is all they need to call in an airstrike! Do you see what I'm saying?

You can't airstrike a sparadic group of people. Especially millions of airstrikes which would be needed...Even if they did, the airforces would revolt because it would be obvious they were waging war on the people.

I do agree in being mentally, physically and spiritually prepared but I think the emphasis at this point should be on the spiritual and the physical should complement the spiritual not rule it with chaotic, misguided concepts of 'defense'.

IMO :D

Misguided? You can easily prepair for both. I say do both...You are saying neglect one very important side. You have no idea how many hours meditation I put in so please save me a lecture on reali'y.

kashmirz
27-07-2008, 08:56 PM
I am still half asleep, and have about 10 minutes until i head out the door for slavery (work) so i will try and summarise.

No you cant use guns.

Infinite consciousness = infinite knowledge = infinite potential.

In the realms of spirituality, the occult, and advanced psionics there is more untapped potential than any of us (even me) could possibly imagine.

Everything that exists in writing about it and everything known by anyone on the entire planet about it, would be but the START of a much greater powerfull knowledge and would be a spec of dust compared to what we can achieve.

Why?

Infinite consciousness = infinite knowledge = infinite potential.

That kind of knowledge in the hands of the light would save, heal, and bring about a utopia.

That kind of knowledge in the hands of darkness would destroy, manipulate and bring about chaos.

edit:

And i might add just quickly that i belive a great majority of such knowledge lies dormant in our eternal souls/ energy, and when we spiritually progress we will not have to "learn it" but we will naturally attain it. Because only something vibrating in peace and love could have such power as it would be the most dangerous thing in the universe for anything else.

ugh .. off to work.

chris
27-07-2008, 10:18 PM
I am still half asleep, and have about 10 minutes until i head out the door for slavery (work) so i will try and summarise.

No you cant use guns.

Infinite consciousness = infinite knowledge = infinite potential.

In the realms of spirituality, the occult, and advanced psionics there is more untapped potential than any of us (even me) could possibly imagine.

Everything that exists in writing about it and everything known by anyone on the entire planet about it, would be but the START of a much greater powerfull knowledge and would be a spec of dust compared to what we can achieve.

Why?

Infinite consciousness = infinite knowledge = infinite potential.

That kind of knowledge in the hands of the light would save, heal, and bring about a utopia.

That kind of knowledge in the hands of darkness would destroy, manipulate and bring about chaos.

edit:

And i might add just quickly that i belive a great majority of such knowledge lies dormant in our eternal souls/ energy, and when we spiritually progress we will not have to "learn it" but we will naturally attain it. Because only something vibrating in peace and love could have such power as it would be the most dangerous thing in the universe for anything else.

ugh .. off to work.

And how can you achieve this if you live in a cell and under constant sedation?

kblood
27-07-2008, 11:40 PM
I dont believe they are all powerfull, but shooting thugs or police doesnt exactly help. If you choose to defend your stuff with a gun, you are putting your family at risk, and yourself.

If I had to protect family against something I would find a way. Expecting it to happen isnt the defense I would recommend. In the US they first made guns a constitutional right, and they are probably going to take it away again, now that so many has come to rely on it as defense. Thing is the very same law is what causes the US to have the most criminal cases involving guns, while in Europe the percentages of weapon related crimes involve fists, knives and other weapons instead.

I feel sad for those who find comfort in a gun. In movies there are lots of scenarios where the use of a gun saved the day, in real life... how often does it really happen? How often could the outcome have been the same or better without using a gun?

I recon most cases from my own experience.

emanuel
28-07-2008, 12:53 AM
They should have had better weapons...The Native Americans put up a good fight, it was just our biological attack that really fucked them.

The American Scout was the best warrior of all time and deeply spiritual. Why do you think we have to separate the phsyical with the non physical?



They aren't going to just come out like zombies and attack...Our best tactic is to organise and help each other. It's just your conditioning has made you believe that everyone who wants to have the option to defend themself will automatically reach for the sword. It is the last option but I'd rather have it than not.



Gundi's peaceful non-complience is by far the most powerful weapon in our infantary. There is absolutely nothing they can do to stop this because as soon as they try, people see we really do live in a fascist dictatorship and we win. There is nothing they can do to stop it, we need to organise to make this our number one tactic. Boycots are absolutely devistating, just look at apartite in South Africa, they are scared of this the most. Yet again, just because I said to be prepaired doesn't mean charge the brigades. Have you watched "Bowling for Columbine?" In that film, MM finds that being a psycho has nothing to do with owning a gun but the whole tone of the film attacks gun owners, extremely weird propaganda.



You can't airstrike a sparadic group of people. Especially millions of airstrikes which would be needed...Even if they did, the airforces would revolt because it would be obvious they were waging war on the people.



Misguided? You can easily prepair for both. I say do both...You are saying neglect one very important side. You have no idea how many hours meditation I put in so please save me a lecture on reali'y.

Doesn't matter how good a fight they put up, bottom line is they still got fucked on!!!

They should of had better weapons??? Are you serious??? (reading that sent a paralyzing pain through my face)

The big point is you shouldn't resort to guns at all! You're talking about getting organised for a boycot with a gun in your pocket!!! Good one Rambo!!! "I aint going down without a fight" mentality will just take down your own team players.

Oh and you put in hours of meditation? Well I gotta say, you seem extremely short sighted which tells me you aint doing it right. I'm a martial artist so it is very much a BIG part of my life so don't BS me okay!

I aint angry at you chris, sincerely, I just get wound up by the notion that a gun will make a change for the better. If you use it, then you potentially take away someones right to redeem themselves and that is shameful. Sorry but I'm uncompromising on the gun issue.

noobcybot
28-07-2008, 01:11 AM
I think weaponry is tasteless, but anyone who has been outnumered in a streetfight and lived will tell you the first thing to do is find an equaliser. If the NWO is real then we had better get used to the idea of killing and fighting, personally I am not sure anyone is coming to help us out here and I think we are too far away from having enough peoplewake upin time. Having weapons does not make you a bad person, in many cases it makes you a realist.
If weaponry is not imporatant than why are we here in England in a situation where innocent people cant have firearms, but gun crime is at an all tie high. If weaponry is not important then why do we have such a concerted effort from our governments to disarm the people. Are they disarming their armies? Think about it, law abiding people dont have guns, but criminals do. We are told guns are illegal here for the good of everyones wellbeing, and then they send armies with absurd weaponry to protect us from bad people that live abroad.
This leads on to another point, look how groups of martial artists have been persecuted by governments nervous of them. I am interested in the comments about Shaolin, it is surely not right to use them as an example where combative resistance leading to death means that it was wrong to do so. They have been remembered and continue to exist today in some form, think about how many martial artists have taken up Buddhism and medatation because of them. Take into account that survivng Shaolin monks moved to Wudan mountain and from there we get Taoist teachings. In fact it could be said that their famous resistance has led to one of the biggest awakenings ever. Not only that but the the concept they brought forward of ethical fighting and training in spiritual practice has had a tremendously posative effect.

friendsinthesky
28-07-2008, 01:50 AM
Food and weapons??? what??? Tptb 'own' the physical realm!

Yes, they own the physical realm and they'd hate to see us humans running about utilizing our natural "powers".

-levitation: escalator and elevator invented

-telekenesis: remote control invented

-telepathy: telephone invented

-remote viewing: TV invented


Is my imagination wild..?

chris
28-07-2008, 02:17 AM
I think weaponry is tasteless, but anyone who has been outnumered in a streetfight and lived will tell you the first thing to do is find an equaliser. If the NWO is real then we had better get used to the idea of killing and fighting, personally I am not sure anyone is coming to help us out here and I think we are too far away from having enough peoplewake upin time. Having weapons does not make you a bad person, in many cases it makes you a realist.
If weaponry is not imporatant than why are we here in England in a situation where innocent people cant have firearms, but gun crime is at an all tie high. If weaponry is not important then why do we have such a concerted effort from our governments to disarm the people. Are they disarming their armies? Think about it, law abiding people dont have guns, but criminals do. We are told guns are illegal here for the good of everyones wellbeing, and then they send armies with absurd weaponry to protect us from bad people that live abroad.

OMG, Why are you trying to be a hero Rambo? My god, you are acting all CWAZY! Don't you know guns are bad? You make me puke in my throat, aren't you ashamed of your killing ways? You'll never know the delights of single pointedness because your so bloodthirsty. The elites are all powerful and all mighty, the only thing we can do is disarm ourselves and sit around until we become superman which you'll never do because your busy running through the bushes with horrible weapons.

(this is a parody btw:)).

Anyway this is supposed to be about telekenisis and levitation, so I'll let it go back on topic...Emanuel I just find your stereotyping unbelievable. It is like you can't manage to fathom that a person can be peaceful and armed at the same time. Any animal runs from danger 99% of the time yet if it's cornered or it's family is threatened, you better not be close by.

redtree999
28-07-2008, 02:58 AM
Double edged sword.

If it ever kicks off, unfortunately for our "fanatical about firearms" friends, TPTB will naturally assume that anyone or everyone could be holding a weapon at home - Even if it isn't a hand gun or rifle..Maybe an IID (Improvised Incendiary Device)?
What's the old saying? Live by the sword (weapon/gun), die by the sword (weapon/gun).

They WILL blast their way through you.

There is of course, an argument for defending against thieves, but again, if they also assume that you will be armed, it will escalate in a similar way.

I don't have a direct solution, I don't like guns..As Paul Weller famously sang in Going Underground:

"You've made your bed, you better lie in it"

However, I do suggest connecting with your neighbours to form a defence force, or at least a food co-operative.

Guns are not the answer.

allure
28-07-2008, 03:25 AM
I have tried levitation, but cant seem to do it without a huge audience. Telekinesis I only remember having done to people, not objects. It could be due to making the person believe it to be true, but then it seems unlikely. I gave a guy a blue eye without touching him, and I made a person running away trip and fall. He had his back to me and I wasnt saying anything to him that would make him think about falling.

I might have done it to objects as well though, but it has been a few years now since I did either telekinises or levitation. I find it easier to do telekinesis using gestures though, with my hands. It helps me visualise and feel it happening.
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/e6/e/AAAAAjiICEYAAAAAAObvDw.jpg

emanuel
28-07-2008, 10:54 AM
OMG, Why are you trying to be a hero Rambo? My god, you are acting all CWAZY! Don't you know guns are bad? You make me puke in my throat, aren't you ashamed of your killing ways? You'll never know the delights of single pointedness because your so bloodthirsty. The elites are all powerful and all mighty, the only thing we can do is disarm ourselves and sit around until we become superman which you'll never do because your busy running through the bushes with horrible weapons.

(this is a parody btw:)).

Anyway this is supposed to be about telekenisis and levitation, so I'll let it go back on topic...Emanuel I just find your stereotyping unbelievable. It is like you can't manage to fathom that a person can be peaceful and armed at the same time. Any animal runs from danger 99% of the time yet if it's cornered or it's family is threatened, you better not be close by.

I'm not stereotyping. I don't think you would be irresponible with a gun in hand but your means of 'preparation' would inspire others to do the same and sooner rather than later it would inspire someone who is irresponsible with fire arms! Downward spiral! I honestly can't believe you can't fathom that!

You need to learn what it means to equalise. Funny what you said above because I have been in a street situation where I was SEVERELY out-numbered! Now, if it was not for my understanding of curtain principals and philosophies I would have panicked, shown weakness so they would pounce, or started lamping people wildly which would have escalated immediately into me either being ripped apart or damaging more people than was neccessary! My 'spirituality' gave me the calm I needed to calm them, and when the instigator of the situation went for me, I made 'contact' and controlled him, all his 'back-up' then turned and saw that what could happen was wrong and took a hold of him on my behalf. I have reflected on this moment of my life many times to understand how I managed to walk away from that situation and came to the conclusion that it was nothing to do with my technique, in terms of what I did physically, it was my presence of mind and spirit. Something about the energy I was emmiting reduced their anger to a calm understanding (all except one). And I slept very well that night too! Sounds crazy but you tell me why 15-20 aggresors backed down from 1.

You need to learn what it is to 'equalise'. In that situation I was in, you may well have wanted a gun! But I PROVED that that was not needed!

And this does relate to the thread because somebody refered to the spiritual element as "horse shit", and there were those who agreed (even if it was partial agreement) ;)

talkingchimp
28-07-2008, 10:59 AM
if u cant work out the answer all you have to do is look to nature.............as we are born of it! when the little tiger is chased by the leopard he runs to the mother tigress who is top of the food chain. face it its the way of the world, theres always a bigger fish, and always a bigger stone, monkey, arrow, tank, boat etc etc...........p.s. dont shoot the messenger lol

element
28-07-2008, 11:16 AM
if u cant work out the answer all you have to do is look to nature.............as we are born of it! when the little tiger is chased by the leopard he runs to the mother tigress who is top of the food chain. face it its the way of the world, theres always a bigger fish, and always a bigger stone, monkey, arrow, tank, boat etc etc...........p.s. dont shoot the messenger lol

Top of the food chain is a hoax. Tiger will die by a virus or bacteria, or other predator, or a Buffalo's horns.;)

majicdragon
28-07-2008, 11:18 AM
Not levitation, or telekinesis, but possession and control over another human, assuming I am human...

possession and control over another's body and actions from a distance. And talking to someone in their head, from a distance. And who cares, and no one believes it anyways... except a couple of people who know.

I'll be.

kashmirz
28-07-2008, 11:27 AM
And how can you achieve this if you live in a cell and under constant sedation?

Brother, read the first sentance, i was hurrying that post along.

It will take all types to solve this worlds problems my friend, different "skill sets" as it were.

I wasnt saying we should drop everything and just focus on studying on that sort of knowledge, i was saying that any amount of it will be usefull in the fight.

For example, and before i begin the following are just labels im going to use, disatach any stigmas you may have to them.


edit: AND actually on topic as a little extra infinite consciousness pilots the body computer, as this is the case, once the connection is constant and we are our infinite self and infinite knowledge with a solid link, we cease to be anyone, and become our infinite souls, at this point anything is possible. even telekinesis's and levitation.

It is with this mentality that i hope to attain results, and i will film them for you when im successful. Which i will be.

I have studied the occult, psionics, magick high and low since a very young age, in the past 2 years i have started to take this study very seriously, and i will continue to do so as i start to comprehend more information.

Now imagine,

My skill sets of knowledge, and your skill sets of knowledge, and everyone else on this forums skill sets of knowledge, working together as ONE for the same outcome.

Now thats a force to be reckoned with, that CAN bring about change, i could go on and on about this, but it would over complicate this conversation more than it needs to.

If we are all raising our vibrations to a higher level, if we are all individually gaining different aspects of knowledge that resonate with our eternal souls / infinite awareness then that knowledge (power if you will) that is drawn to us is because it is already ours, in our eternal consciousness, and our higher selves are helping us re connect with it in this world around us.

once again, i would stress, their is no one road, but if the intent is love and light no matter what anyone is doing, if it helps that cause then the destination is the same.

And if people like me sir, and people like you, and alllllll those others with different skill sets/ knowledge and information are all combined, then we DO have a VERY REAL chance of stopping the evils that oppress this world.

Once again i have rushed this, i just got home from slavery ... errr work, and to be honest im stuffed :S but i hope you understand where im coming from friend.

Much love to you, you post alot of good stuff. :D


Edit: infinite consciousness, infinite knowledge.

When ones infinite self can fully incarnate into the human body computer, then one can do anything.

Not limited to telekinesis and levitation .

It is with this mentality i plan to attain results, when i do, which i will, i shall film them for you

talkingchimp
28-07-2008, 12:25 PM
Top of the food chain is a hoax. Tiger will die by a virus or bacteria, or other predator, or a Buffalo's horns.;)

id like to see the bacteria in your body fell a full grown tiger that had you cornered and then hear you mumble about food chain hoax.

mr jones
28-07-2008, 01:57 PM
Here's a true, totally unexplainable event I have been talking about regularly since the day it happened; around 20 years ago.

I was a kid, me and a friend were playing a prank on many other kids from our street. My friend hid inside my house, inside a closet where he was able to touch two wires together which made the front door bell ring. I gathered the other kids outside my front door telling them there was a ghost in my house and it was communicating via the doorbell.

I had told my friend that after I rang the twice, wait around 5 seconds and ring once in response.

We did this a few times, the kids from my street were amazed and freaked out.

Now, I started to embellish and told them that if I rang it three times, the letterbox would wrap by itself.

In my mind I had already thought about what I was going to say when this didn't happen. It couldn't have happened, it was a 'spring loaded' letterbox that could only be pushed in and was so tight it sometimes shredded newspapers. Also, the front door and its surround were made of glass and the hallway was clearly seen to be empty.

I rang the doorbell 3 times, stepped back, about 5 seconds later the letterbox inexplicably was pushed in, held for about 1 second and then slammed shut.

Me and all the other kids screamed and ran away.

Since that day I've pondered over what caused this. A spirit? Or was it the belief and expectation of the 6-7 kids there expecting to see it happen?

Who knows. But it is completely unexplainable, it really happened, and I've been retelling this story on a regular basis this past 20 years.

good story. it sounds like you all created a poltergeist form of energy

element
28-07-2008, 02:18 PM
id like to see the bacteria in your body fell a full grown tiger that had you cornered and then hear you mumble about food chain hoax.

It's the groupwork mate. Not one makes the difference. Same with wolf packs. Don't be blinded by the eye.

talkingchimp
28-07-2008, 02:25 PM
It's the groupwork mate. Not one makes the difference. Same with wolf packs. Don't be blinded by the eye.

but how would bacteria help you when you're cornered by the tiger? it wouldnt youd be eaten, by the food chain king. i see your point, because in fact none of us 'mammals' are actually a single entity anyway, we are made up of billions of subsystems that include fungi, bacteria, viruses and other cellular life. but still at the end of the day in that split second i wouldnt be thinking oh well the bacteria will have the tiger one day, we'd all be thinking fuck i wish i had teeth as big as that bastard.