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rossus
26-04-2007, 12:47 AM
the content of this thread is a direct copy paste from a thread on the old unnoficial david icke forum. (now dead)
the author of the post i do not remember... maybe it is synergy777 (also on this forum) or someone called "da." (who i do not remember!)
enjoy brothers and sisters
God has hidden himself in the last place (in the Whole Universe) you would think to look- Within Yourself!
-Someone

It is impossible to find God outside of ourselves. Our own souls contribute all of the divinity that is outside of us. We are the greatest temple. The objectification is only a faint imitation of what we see within ourselves.
-Swami Vivekananda

And I pray that you, rooted and founded in love yourselves, may be able to grasp (with all Saints) how wide and long and deep and high is the Love of Christ--and to know for yourselves that Love which passeth all knowledge. So will you be filled through all your being, with God himself!
Ephesians 3. 17-19

There's really nothing better these days than the Bliss of Spontaneous, Intuitive Realization! Realization that is at once Joyfully Earth shattering.
-Me, just now.

Apologies for the length of this post! Those with open and enquiring minds (and Hearts) and no- overly rigid- 2nd hand preconceptions will hopefully be interested.

Jesus Taught Yogic Meditation
Yes! My own experience tells me this, and i will show that he did below. First i'll meander a little bit....

I have been accosted by so-called Christian types more than couple of times lately. Not least on this forum. They're everywhere! Those that openly say they believe in Jesus but- in Truth- do nothing of the kind, as i've made quite clear. But they won't have it, oh no- there's too much at stake- namely their very Souls. Such fear of God (and Satan) is an effective Soul constriction.

This Christchurchianity thing is a huge- and ages long- con-trick. Hey, Christians have had 2000 years to sort it all out but have utterly failed! And that's no surprise, the real truth was suppressed by those that wish to control, control you totally- mind, body and spirit. It's a purely exoteric religion designed to divorce you from your True InnerOuter Freedom and Innate Power, seperate you from your Eternal Identity within Christ- in it's most real and immanent sense. The dark powers always seek to further capture you within the outer illusion, the Satan they like to project, to distance you from God and to force feed you twisted wisdom from the dark ages! The Christians are witless advocates of all this- and they're more than holding us all back with their salvation from without scenario. Yet there is good cause to rejoice, for their allotted time cycle is ending, their limiting truth is failing, will fail, in this Spiritually rarified climate, so don't give 'em an inch, or they'll take a mile.

Christianity hasn't been a total loss though! There is much of value to be salvaged- and truth's expanded upon.

I can quote the bible and be as literal as the most literalist of (limited) thinking Christians- i was brought up with the bible, i liked it and was good at R.E. in school. I've since moved on from it's confines- grown up. I now come from an intuitive, much more UN-limited viewpoint- certainly a Universal One- as per the liberating New Age frequencies (what else can you call them) we are collectively entering. This New Age is really a more Enlightened Time Cycle, a Golden Age, an opportunity to spring-board, or ascend (so to speak) to the Highest Realms of Love & Light. Hidden Truth's are revealed within the Heart in the midst of this Light. Within and without. New Light Shining upon old darkness- shining from within and exposing it. The intuition of Truth, a good internal bullshit detector is a faculty many possess, but because of all the conflicting information out there most do not trust even their own Hearts! But that is where God dwells- and is revealed.

The bible- as with all else- is being revealed for it's truth's and it's falsities. It is full of heavily distorted events and symbolism, but there are beautiful teachings within it's pages, also ugly lies- as per this world of polarity, this ever opposing duality we live in. There is stuff in there i resonate with. I concur with the book of Revelations in this respect There really IS gonna be a New Heaven and a New Earth. And they are waiting for us. They are waiting here- there- everywhere, whereever you are, RIGHT NOW. Multi-Dimensional they are. It's a matter of cultivating Awareness of them, of making an effort to Awakening! The Power of Awakening helps manifest the New Heaven and Earth in the Here and Now.
The Kingdom of God is spread out upon the Earth, but men do not see it.- Yeshua.

Yeshua taught all this 2,000 years ago. He also came at the beginning of a New Age. He taught Meditation to his closest followers, in Secret so to speak. This really isn't at all hard to understand.

I've been reading this guy from Hidden Mysteries who's biblical interpretation i (more or less) agree with. He has an esoteric slant on Christianity and i'm taking the liberty to enhance his insight with my own slant on the theme. There's a bit of a cut and paste job but it's mostly my own.

IS IT NOT OBVIOUS THAT JESUSYESHUA WAS A YOGIC MASTER

Of course he was! Free from all the overblown Christian distortions this is blatantly obvious to those that have studied Ancient IndianOriental Wisdom and it's practitioners for any decent length of time, obvious to those with a feel for these things, free of religious control. It is very clear that Yeshua taught what New Agers are condemned by the religious for doing. Yeshua practised and taught (to those closest to him)- the very thing that so many in the so called New Age are strictly following. Disciplining body and mind to raise consciousness to the point of Enlightenment. Or as Yeshua said , To practice the 'Single Eye' so as to be (inwardly) filled with Light. (More on that below)
I've been meditating on and off since '86, and one of the 4 ancient meditation techniques i learned back then is called the 'Divine Light' technique. This Divine Light is experienced via prolonged focus on the Third Eye or the Pineal Gland area, the focus on the route of the nose (NOT the end of the nose!) 'tween the point of the centre of the eyebrows. This enables the dual, two eyed perception to become as One, the two merged and Transcended as a single eye!
It's a wonderful experience when you break through all the mental crap, a veritable Cosmic Orgasm!

YESHUAJESUS WAS A TEACHER OF YOGA!

This Truth comes to us in Matthew 1129, adressed to his disciples Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart and you shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is Light.
Of course a yoke can be a burden that restrains its wearer. But Yeshua regularly speaks of the Freedom of the Inner Kingdom- and of seeking within- entering within oneself to find the Realms of Experiencial Knowledge, practicing the single eye and of taking no thought.

Let us define Yoga.
Yoga, from the Collins Concise English Dictionary
A Hindu System of philosophy aiming at the mystical union of the self with the Supreme Being in a state of complete awareness and tranquillity through certain physical and mental exercises.

Now let us define Yoke
A crossbar with two U-shaped pieces that encircle the necks of a pair of oxen or other draft animals working together. Something that connects or joins together; a bond or tie. To join or be joined by means of a yoke; couple, unite or link. [C19 Sanskrit A Yoking,yanukti- He Yokes.]--Yogic.

We can easily connect Yoke and Yoga. On the basis of his teaching, relative to seeking within, of practicing the single eye, of taking no thought, obviously- to those with eyes to SEE- and Ears to HEAR this applies to the teachings of JesusYeshua.

THE BACKGROUND OF YOGA
Yoga first popped up more then 4,000 years ago in what we now call India. And latter day knowledge is that Yeshua lived and travelled extensively in India.
The word yoga comes from the Sanskrit word yuj which means to bind, join, to attach- to YOKE. The Indian Yuj also means union, to direct and concentrate ones Attention.
In other words Yoga is about concentrating your mind and body to bind yourself to God. Its about disciplining yourself to balance your mind, soul and emotions so that you can connect with your Spiritual Self which is part of the Supreme Universal Spirit of Light.

Yoke and Yoga both have their roots in the meaning of coming together into a Oneness. The word conjugal- a derivative of Yoke- is apt too, which means having to do with marriage and the relationship of spouses. That is interesting when we consider that the one speaking of Yoke is Yeshua and he is referred to in the scriptures as the bridegroom.

Matthew 915 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them (His Disciples). And then all that is required from them is to follow Yeshua, or to do as he did, practice as he did. And the good thing is that it's perfectly acceptable to follow Yeshua without getting involved in any kind of religion en masse and without even mentioning Yeshua's name. Isn't that great! To follow Yeshua you don't have to become a Christian. And anyway, Christ-ians aren't Christ-ians at all! They're basically brainwashed, which is what a solely exoteric- or Mayic (outward illusion) focus will do for you.

What is the way to salvation that YeshuaJesus has shown us and that Christianity has rejected- much to its own shame

Matthew 633, SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Very specific! I've always liked that teaching, it say's it all right there. Before you do anything, don't go looking for a church, or a Bible, or a teacher. The very first thing you must do is SEEK THE KINGDOM OF GOD.....How do we do that

Luke 1721 THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU!!!!

An EVEN BETTER teaching! Yeshua said to his disciples that he was the way. In other words, if they followed him, if they practiced what he taught, (in secret) they would know the way. But, and this is a big BUT Yeshua was speaking to those closest to him! He was teaching his disciples, his students first and foremost! He wasn't speakin to everyone in the flippin world!!! The corruption was well established by then- as now. He wasn't speaking inner wisdom to the sheeple- he tried to reach them, but they lacked true insight and understanding, so to those he spoke in riddles and parables. Certainly he wasn't addressing the average person in esoteric instruction. Their minds were not mature enough to grasp the deeper truth's. He was teaching the same INNER WAY- more or less- that ALL Masters Of Wisdom have taught their disciples, their students, chelas or whatever, for AEONS. He was teaching INITIATES. Those entitled to the Secret Teachings by their emphatic desire, their willingness to follow their Master, to give up this illusory reality and KNOW ETERNAL TRUTH, besides all else.
Again, what we're seeing in religion today is the Ancient Wisdom turned inside-out for deceitful, controlling, nefarious ends. YeshuaJesus's life projected- for the unwitting, gullible masses- outwards into duality, into corruption- into Satans Realm, torn and twisted. The (Dying) Sun God myth was still prevalant at the time and was a fitting cloth, a cloth that the Elite and the sheeple demanded! They would not accept any other than God himself! It's the same today, with Islam and such. So Yeshua became Son of God- (very grand) it was unanimously voted upon. It's still the same uncompromising philosophy today for the spiritually shallow religious types of the world.
But, here is our chance to follow himher (Yeshua and Mary- for they were inseperable, as One). All of us. Out there in the world are presented the Ways and the means, the keys are available to those who sincerely seek. The Way, the Truth and the Life is available to all that use the keys and turn Inwards. For the outer reflects the inner state of affairs of EVERYONE- individually and collectively.
Yeshua told you that the first thing you must do to find the Kingdom Of Heaven, to find Freedom, is look within yourself. To MEDITATE...That's his Way!!! That and Infinite Loving.

IT COULD'NT BE CLEARER. But this is not something that the church, that religion is comfortable with. Most people, not least Christians, have always been uncomfortable with the concept of meditation, of inward inquiry. They do not want to confront inner darkness and dissolve (forgive) their personal sins. They PREFER to be sinners! They tell me that sin cannot be dissapated, only forgiven by an outside agency, seperate from themselves, i.e Jesus. (ad infinitum) They have often told me that i open my mind to devils when i look within myself for the kingdom of God. Yet Yeshua said that is exactly what we must do! And it's the same trouble we all have with religious people today that Yeshua had with them then- when he taught his WAY.

YOU DO NOT ENTER WITHIN YOURSELF, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM- AND THAT IS THE WORLDS PROBLEM!

Yeshua speaks to the lawyers who in those days were the Bible teachers, the priests, ministers etc.
Luke 1152, Woe unto you lawyers, for you have taken away the key of knowledge. You entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in, you hindered. Same as today then! You did not seek within yourself, you did not go into meditation. And yet those who were doing this you stopped. You told them lies about devils and demons, and therefore you have turned away from the teachings of Yeshua- Christ. That is the reason for the trouble upon the earth, and the guilty party for keeping the teachings of Yeshua away from people are the main religions.

MEDITATION IS THE WAY AND FEW FIND IT!
Or have Time for it. No time for timelessness! No time for God! Tch!
ALL TIME IS GOD'S TIME, AND ALL BEYOND.

Yeshua, and all those Awakened before or after him, told us that the true way is the inner way. Which also becomes the outer way! Of course it does, for the outer reflects the Inner.
Yeshua said that is the Way to Truth, and THAT TRUTH WOULD SET US FREE. He promised his disciples that his way would take them to the father, to GOD.
Yes, it DOES.

GOD IS LIGHT.
Christians (should) know God as Light because it says in the book of Numbers, that God is not a man, and then it says in 1.John that God is Light. So we are looking to receive this Light, and Yeshua has said this is accomplished by seeking WITHIN OURSELVES. But how Well, i know! Yeshua again is very specific
Matthew 622, The Light of the Body is the eye. If thine eye be single your body will fill with Light. That's one of the simple meditation techniques i learned as a teenager- practicing the single eye. The first thing i inwardly perceived during my instruction was fluid Golden Light, Streams of Light- like aurora borealis- raining down from above- pouring down into my body which i interpreted as the waters of life- of the Aquarian Age. Since then i have had many more experiences with the Light- and Beyond Light- into the Living Void.

Here are the teachings of Yeshua that you must do what he says to do. He said to look within yourself. To practice the single eye, which means to stimulate the pineal gland of the brain! The Gland of Higher Consciousness.
It's been asleep all your life, in everybody for centuries. It's being stimulated to Awakening NOW- in many ways.

SEPARATE YOUR SENSE OF 'SELF' FROM THOUGHT.
For thoughts are as clouds obscuring the Light of the SunSon!

That is the second part of the meditation process. First look within yourself and practice the single eye and then separate, move beyond the thoughts of the mind and into the SunSon. The Light is Present and it never goes out.

Matthew 625, Yeshua tells us to take no thought! To practice the Single Eye, and taking no thought, in looking within ourselves, means to meditate! To practice meditation. To watch. To be the shepherds within ourselves, watching the sheepthoughts and being the able to see the Inner and Glorious Christ-Child born of Purist Virgin Consciousness in the midst of the animal nature of our mind, and to be led by that, the Way.

THE WATCHING MEDITATION!

Mark 1337, And what I say to you, I say to all- WATCH.
That directs you to the watching meditation, which is very basic meditation! It's Echart Tolles teaching these days. When you watch within yourself, when you make continued observations within yourself, and you enquire within yourself, eventually Divine Light enters via the pineal gland and the WAY begins to show, the Way begins to Open! The Way toof LOVE. Yeshua's way.

Those are the things that Yeshua specifically said to do if you are to find salvation. For Truest Freedom comes from within, and translates to the without. What is amazing is that the people that do these things for the most part are not Christians. They're generally Buddhists! Or New Agers Or the Awakened.

BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR RELIGIOUS AND FAMILY TRADITIONS

A Christian will say that they follow the traditions of those who went before them. They find it extremely difficult to turn their back on them.

So they do all of these traditional things which enclose them- close them off, the world becomes more and more violent, more and more turned away from those who have less, more and more turned away from those who are sick, unless they have enough money to pay to get healed. Tradition.
In Matthew 153 Jesus asks why do you transgress the commandment of God by your tradition

The whole failure of life upon the earth, the failure to live in disease free and violence free longevity is based on religious traditions, via illuminati control, and suppressed knowledge concerning what is right and what each of us must do that our mind might be changed from the violent behavior of the earth tribes, to the Healing behavior of the LIGHT
TRIBES. The Angels, the Starseeds.

ALL THAT RELIGIOUS SHEEPLE KNOW IS WHAT THEY ARE TOLD BY RELIGIOUS LEADERS.

Hosea 46, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will reject you.

Strong stuff isn't it! The knowledge that most have received comes from corrupted religious leaders who are the very ones who have caused the violence and hate upon the earth. That knowledge comes from the lower mind. Wearing fancy robes maybe, but still of lower mind.

There is only one place where you will find the knowledge that will set you free and protect you from the violent kings of the earth, and Yeshua made it very clear where that place is.
Luke 1152, You have taken away the key of knowledge, You entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in- you hindered.
The Meditation Techniques i learned can be regarded as keys, for sure, and why not They ARE keys. They allow me to enter within myself.
Please don't give me shit- because Saint Peter was handed the keys to the Kingdom Of Heaven- when Yeshua left, which is (very plain) to say, he was given authority- by his Master- to initiate disciples into the sacred meditation techniques only given to the very few. It's been the same way for Millennia. It still happens today. What a silly fuck up western civilisation has made of it! A fuck up with Guidance from the Illuminati of course.
Yeshua, who told you that Gods kingdom is within you, now says that you do not have the knowledge needed for salvation because you have not the means to enter within yourselves, you cannot quieten the mind enough to hear the Omniscient voiceinstruction of Goddess within.
But THAT is the Way, THAT reveals the Truth, and by following that still, small voice you will find NEW LIFE, you will be BORN AGAIN, AS IF NEW.

THE BORN AGAIN WAY
We have always been told that the way to be born again is to claim Jesus as lord and believe God raised him from the dead. Being born again has nothing to do with what traditional Christianity teaches. It's not a matter of mere belief, it's an Inner Transformation, from Within You, where- what is named God and Christ- dwell. It is to be inwardly baptised of the LIGHT. Under the Presence The Eternally Abiding Spirit, the Holy Spirit the Dove in flight overhead symbol. That is only possible by doing what Yeshua said, what Buddha said, what Krishna said, what all Masters of Wisdom say By FINDING THE LIGHT AND THE TRUTH WITHIN YOURSELF. Yeshua said Of myself i can do nothing. We have to do most of the work! Christ will meet us halfway.

NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME.
Or by my way. And i'm sure that was the case in those days!

That's what Yeshua said, and he was right. But what did he mean Well, Yeshua channelled the Christ Consciousness, was Awakened, was aligned to the Eternal Christ Spirit or the Way of INFINITE LOVE. What he clearly meant was no one can find God unless they follow his yoga, that which he was instructing, and seek (and find) within themselves. They should practice separation from limited thought, practice awareness, to watch within, focus the single eye. To go into meditation and negate the chattering thoughts of mind. The very things that Christians do not do!!! OR, ARE AFRAID TO DO.
Yes, fear again- fear of themselves! And others of not so like mind. They consider themselves sinners. They do not want to inwardly confront and Transform sin, or guilt. They do not believe they CAN be inwardly transformed! Their guilt, their sin will always remain in them. It's Satan that dwells within- not God- so the Way for them is effectively blocked. WEAK. Very Weak. They are witless Illuminati pawns, dragging the Earth down to ever stricter levels of control.

THE MAN WITH THE PITCHER OF WATER

No only did Yeshua tell us how, he also told us WHEN. When could we Passover from the violence of the kings of the earth to the wonders of the Kingdom of Light
In Luke 2210 Jesus said, When you see the man with the pitcher of water follow him into the house and go to the upper room. - this is Astrologically symbolic. (the bible is choc FULL of symbolism). The Age of Aquarius is symbolised by a man with a pitcher of water, pouring out the water of Life- of Spirit- upon the frequencies of Earth. In the Aquarian age we will enter within ourselves and Ascend to the Upper Rooms of the Mind and Spirit and there we will experience the Passover to Divine realms of Light and Life. It all takes place within us. Of COURSE IT DOES. And the sooner it takes place within you, the sooner will it take place outside you!!!! Out there in the world about you. Within you, is the source of your Life and your True Spiritual Power. Also the means of your release from fear and the controlling Matrix, the path of your ASCENSION.

The choice is- as always- ours. We may follow Yeshua and his like, leave behind religion, (including Christianity), and Ascend to a Higher States (and beyond) or we may stay with religion and follow corrupted men and continuing mindbodyspirit enslavement. FREE WILL will always prevail. The Keys to the Kingdom are presented- in this place or that (seek and ye shall find)- in few, marginally different ways, choose your keys wisely. Be sincere and TRUST your guidance- trust the Goddess, the MotherFather- the ONENESS that is within you- NOW. And Now is the time- more so than any other time in History! There is more NOW available to us, encroaching upon this reality in ever more inventive ways, knocking on the doors of the whole bodymind.

I know its hard for many to turn their backs on traditional religions, and their educational indoctrinations. But it's so much worse to turn your back on the True Light of the World! The Light that is IN YOU- NOW. To turn away from THAT is a travesty of the whole- the only- purpose of your Being.

Happy Springtime. Natural Symbol of Resurrection!

Da. (Voice crying in the wilderness)

nirvana
28-04-2007, 12:45 PM
Interesting;)

alison
04-06-2007, 02:47 AM
There is no doubt in my mind that jesus taught yoga/meditation. The use of sunlight is quite helpful too!!

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auron
04-06-2007, 03:08 AM
Have a read of this:

The Yoga of the Christ.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/3300676)

:)

alison
18-06-2007, 10:57 AM
Hi Auron, really want to get the link downloaded but I cant, is there any way you can send it to me, or am I being a little dense!!! lol

Would really love to read your info!!!

God Bless!!

X X X

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