Magnet Motor

[phonicboom]

Sure we all thought of something similar as kids....

free energy with magnets (http://www.chriswilshaw.info/free-energy-with-magnets.htm) <<<------ info

I bought the magnets but can't get the rest of the stuff I need to build this, I have a few diagrams, some people have found it via google, one a university in singapore, and they are trying to build one...

what do ya reckon?

[phonicboom]

You need to use 3's 9's and so on and form a Torus shape. The magnets around the moving ring must not be in line with one another but on a left / right wave as you watch laterally. Imagine your orientation to bicycle wheels as they rotate under you. Now arrange magnets on that wheel to give a left/right wobble. The static magnets pushing will be no different to diagrams show previously but the effect will be incredible.

Again, I can not build this, I have no cash or facility to do it, but have a strong model in my mind and will draw it as soon as I find a way.

[deafbred]

thanks for post
I been interested in all this theory magnet stuff and motors
I got tons of magnets
One picture there, I like the way of the design of it and how the drawing shows waves of magnetized interaction

[phonicboom]

ok i see a link here http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33907

[phonicboom]

bas&^DS

I mean Good on them!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SvB3PiPBozU

[anahata]

:eek: I want one of those!! We (UK) are being told that over christmas there will be a number of power cuts because there just won't be enough energy available to us.

Clearly the technology is there for us to run our homes and every form of machinery for free, so why are we waiting?
Basically we are stuck using 'old methods' because we are so reliant on those bastards who are ripping us off. Surely we don't need to carry on satisfying their pockets!

Can't the guy who designed the machine start selling the product without the need to wait for officials to give the go-ahead?

[jayelowell]

amazing post!!! thank you phonicboom!!!

you should post the Rodin Based Mathmatics in this thread also!!!

[abaddon]

Can't the guy who designed the machine start selling the product without the need to wait for officials to give the go-ahead?

Last thing I heard, some Aussies and some German chaps were both trying to get international patents in place from their respective countries, and AFAIK that was ages ago.

After much thought with others on the subject, I reckon magnetics are one of the necessary energy solutions, along with renewables and greens investment, abiotic/fossil surpluses etc.

One thought I tried to get my head around was having one of those batteries for every household in <specified area>, and the house electricity re-routed to converted electrical substations/ fuelling areas for electric cars, seeing as we supposedly now have the batteries necessary for electric car industry growth and can expect their numbers to dramatically increase, in any perspective imo. You could wipe out hosehold energy bills and demand, whilst re-directing those resources to electric car industry, and maintain petroleum products for the Aero industry/millitary etc. Even continue to pay for net 'fuel' cunsumption during the infrastructure crossover phase, with excess unused supplies towards filling national reserves.

After discussion, we brainstormed associated problems. Aside from things like massive change in infrastructure, loss and/or re-direction of jobs, cost etc one was a real thorn, of which would be replacing the magnetic material, because it will run out of energy. Maybe the magnet will outlast it's owners lifetime, but it would eventually run out. So it would be replaced generationally? Depends. What if a whole magnetic industry was set up, like the new 'global technology', and it comes time to replace the material. Would such a massive industry be able to handle that, because magnetic material doesn't come easily, I thought? And it takes a lot of energy to produce magnets, i.e costly and intensive?

It sounds like a very promising technology, maybe I'm a little pessimistic, but.... it is part of the energy solution, although it still seems to have insanely far reaching complications.

Edit: haha, after all that, yeah I have thought about home-building this stuff, but never found the time to be honest.

[phonicboom]

i have the idea of these being personal or family sized. One per household perhaps.

You can imagine if it ran permanently that it would create quite an excess - well if you save the excess in a battery then it only takes one big jolt from that battery to make new magnets.

[abaddon]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/whatttyeahok/generatoreg.jpg

Apologies, this is kinda what I mean :)

I agree though, why not go ahead and make these magnetic motors seeing as they exist in many forms already?

[abaddon]

They can't just make a heap of them off the bat, who gets the first ones? The highest bidder? And then there will be untold production as it makes a marketing nest for itself, in short order? Who knows.. What about the existing energy infrastructure that will, like CDs to Digital media, lose out?(imo)

I really feel such a technology could be government implemented with incentives, not free market sold. I also think Govt would be smart to buy and integrate it first as well, like they do with hybrid cars and green buildings now.

In Australia, there is the whole Carbon Tax thing for pollution, in the works, since signing Kyoto. The environmental change has to come from what alternatives we find and/or invest in, ontop of slapping pollution tax on multi$ companies. This means we can't just leave one part to dry whilst another part flourishes.



I'm just trying to, I dunno, rationalise i 'spose, a future system we can go by, so everyone wins (kinda)


EDIT: Apologies for going off-topic buddy, whenever I see the magnetic motor thing I can't help but think about this :p

[phonicboom]

no such thing as off topic with me this is all good.

i want to give them away charity style, start with the most needy and work up.

if industry or people who can afford want one then they wait in line and their cashola pays for the needy.

[anahata]

After much thought with others on the subject, I reckon magnetics are one of the necessary energy solutions, along with renewables and greens investment, abiotic/fossil surpluses etc.

You could wipe out hosehold energy bills and demand, whilst re-directing those resources to electric car industry, and maintain petroleum products for the Aero industry/millitary etc. Even continue to pay for net 'fuel' cunsumption during the infrastructure crossover phase, with excess unused supplies towards filling national reserves.


There certainly are drawbacks; loss of jobs being a major one. It is however as you said a necessary energy solution and one which will no doubt be the next step in our evolution of technology. A plan does need to be made to protect infrastructure but as it’s inevitable, excuses shouldn't overrule.

[phonicboom]

i volunteer to not have a job :)

more seriously though. If everyone worked 3 days not 5, and the working week was 6 days not 5.. then more work would get done, each person would do less, and none would be unemployed.

EDIT: so those 6 days would take 2 people 3+3 to fill.

[anahata]

i volunteer to not have a job :)

more seriously though. If everyone worked 3 days not 5, and the working week was 6 days not 5.. then more work would get done, each person would do less, and none would be unemployed.

EDIT: so those 6 days would take 2 people 3+3 to fill.

3 day working week?!?!!! I’m in and volunteer for the job!! :D
People would be on a lower wage but it's a small price to pay (mind the pun) considering the alternative. Might get a few lazy people off benefits too!!

[phonicboom]

3 day working week?!?!!! I’m in and volunteer for the job!! :D
People would be on a lower wage but it's a small price to pay (mind the pun) considering the alternative. Might get a few lazy people off benefits too!!

a lower wage sounds logical, but with 6/7 days a week being worked; productivity would be higher, people happier, money would have more value and there would be more to go round.

[anahata]

a lower wage sounds logical, but with 6/7 days a week being worked; productivity would be higher, people happier, money would have more value and there would be more to go round.

There would be more time for us to spend our money though :confused:

[phonicboom]

if you are happy, you don't need to spend money. the current climate has people attempting to buy happiness.