What do you think about Tony Benn and Hilary Benn

[steevo]

Father and son Tony and Hilary Benn. The father is against the war but his son is for it. I dont know what to make of it :confused: I KNOW that they are two separate people but....:confused:
Something doesnt seem right to me. What do the other members of the forum think ? I have been wanting to discuss this on here for a while now in the hope that we may clear up any confusion about Tony Benn (on my part :o).
Anyone got any views ?

[cheeb]

Send In A Cheeky Girl.....

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Cheeky Girl singer Gabriela Irimia has dumped her Lib Dem MP boyfriend Lembit Opik because he is strange, according to her mother, who said her daughter prefers Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg, who is "more rugged".

:eek:

[stelios]

Tony Benn is probably very ashamed of his offspring who is another totally nasty Labour turd

[parmy]

they have both had there snouts in the UK political trough man - both bullshitters raking it in:mad:

[ninorc]

Reference to wikipedia will tell you: 'Benn strongly resembles his father, Tony Benn in his speaking style and delivery, but is a political centrist and New Labour loyalist. It is in this vein that he famously describes himself as "a Benn, but not a Bennite" '

However, if you are what you eat (as opposed to think): 'Like his father, he is a teetotaller. He also became a vegetarian before persuading his father to be one.'

Tony Benn - aka Anthony Wedgwood Benn, the former Viscount Stansgate - abhors alcohol and 'drugs' but is a caffeine addict who used (and may continue) to require a full pint of strong tea every hour on the hour. Hence his intense gaze and frequently speedy demeanour. ;)

[clozaril]

don't know much about hilary

as for tony i think he is a good man perhaps one of the last true socialsits in the world of politics along with GG however i am not a socialist myself.

he is also the only voice of reason within the political world worth listening to. and my views on the erosion of civil liberties the terrorism act he expresses and vocalises similar views which i am happy about.

hey steevo! if you look on recommended sub thread there is a link to an interview on bbc hardtalk with tony benn

[clozaril]

also he passed an act that allowed him to give up his hereditiry peerage to pursue a career as a mp

[steevo]

I think that Tony Benn is a "gatekeeper" (is that the correct phraseology ?). People respect him (eg war protesters) and let him gently guide them away from the truth and away from the real perpetrators. I'm totally sure that Tony Benn knows how the system REALLY works but does he EVER mention it ? No. Therefore he is a GATEKEEPER. And that is why his son Hilary is for the war. Because his dad is too. Tony Benn is a fake. MY OPINION.

[and justice for all]

Father and son Tony and Hilary Benn. The father is against the war but his son is for it. I dont know what to make of it :confused: I KNOW that they are two separate people but....:confused:
...

I’ve been wondering about that one myself for ages!
I got nothing.
If you get to the bottom of this, please be kind to let me know!

[phaid]

I'm just wondering why Tony B. gave his son a girl's name, LOL

[planetsadhana]

I like the term "gatekeeper" steevo that just about sums it up

[steevo]

I like the term "gatekeeper" steevo that just about sums it up

I have been thinking about this again and I still stand by what I said 100% but I'm glad that someone who is in the public eye (now and again anyway) like Tony Benn speaks out against the war. BUT if we understand HOW we are manipulated/steered by the likes of Tony Benn then WE can USE him and NOT let him steer us in the direction he wants us to go.
Obviously there will be people on here who will disagree and say that Tony Benn MAY be genuine, so let me just say that these are just my opinions :)

[diamond dogs]

Tony Benn is probably very ashamed of his offspring who is another totally nasty Labour turd

matjohn: Do you have any qualms about your son serving the new Labour administration?

Tony Benn: I am very proud indeed of my son, Hilary, who worked for a trade union for 25 years; served on a local authority for 20 years as deputy leader and chairman of the Education Committee; moving on as an advisor, then an MP, and now a minister with a difficult job - prisons. He is brilliant and I am very proud of him indeed.

simiain: How do you see Great Britain evolving over the next century?

Tony Benn: I think Britain will change as the world becomes more international, and we shall be enriched by people from other countries just as British immigrants enriched America, Australia, Canada, India and Africa. But we must see that in a world of moving populations we respect everyone whatever their national origin, religion or colour

johnh: How different would the Labour party be if John Smith was still alive?

Tony Benn: I knew John Smith very well. He was my deputy, and a fine man, who would have made a fine leader, and we should have not had spin as we have now. His death was a tragedy, but today I think the Labour Party is moving back towards the values he believed in.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/tony-benn-chat2.shtml

[moondancer]

chances are, both toss pots

I prefer

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m257/galaxyfunk/mrbenn_1.jpg

:p

(hope youre well steevo x)

[the moral man]

Dear Friends
kind regards
I saw Tony Benn live back in 2003, he was doing a public speech about New Labour and his opposition to the war on terror.
He called the war a "corporate war" and said that new labour is not the same party that he joined years previously.
He seemed nice enough after the speech when he was autographing his books that he was selling.
In my view, Benn talks a good game, but thats about it.
Why would a Socialist sell books when such a person would be against capitalist commercialism?
Benn is just a political polarizer who gains favour from the public because he talks a good game, Galloway is no different.
I feel that Benn and Galloway are pretty much out for themselves inspite of their self proclaimed opposition of the system.
yours thankfully
John

[truthful]

I have been thinking about this again and I still stand by what I said 100% but I'm glad that someone who is in the public eye (now and again anyway) like Tony Benn speaks out against the war. BUT if we understand HOW we are manipulated/steered by the likes of Tony Benn then WE can USE him and NOT let him steer us in the direction he wants us to go.
Obviously there will be people on here who will disagree and say that Tony Benn MAY be genuine, so let me just say that these are just my opinions :)

I've always admired Tony Benn and i've seen him speak on many occasions but like you say he's a gatekeeper - a part of the establishment. He's the kind who encourages peaceful protest - something that achieves very little when used against reactionary Zionist controlled governments.:mad:

[diamond dogs]

Dear Friends
kind regards
I saw Tony Benn live back in 2003, he was doing a public speech about New Labour and his opposition to the war on terror.
He called the war a "corporate war" and said that new labour is not the same party that he joined years previously.
He seemed nice enough after the speech when he was autographing his books that he was selling.
In my view, Benn talks a good game, but thats about it.
Why would a Socialist sell books when such a person would be against capitalist commercialism?
Benn is just a political polarizer who gains favour from the public because he talks a good game, Galloway is no different.
I feel that Benn and Galloway are pretty much out for themselves inspite of their self proclaimed opposition of the system.
yours thankfully
John

I fell for it too and was a Benn fan for a long time..there was always something not quite right though...he never seemed genuine..like Galloway.. they are fake but Benn imo is much more dangerous a snake like Mandelson..spouts off a few things that he knows won't change a thing..but deep down is playing the part and for so long....now look at his offspring promoting Monsanto.. It defies logic..and now Benn showing his true colours now the agenda is about to lift it's veil

He should be given a knighthood now imo

Arise Sir Anthony Wedgwood Benn you have served your bloodline well........

http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/%A5Artist%20GIF%20Images/Tony-Benn-900.jpg

[rodin]

Trust no one on TV

[the moral man]

Dear diamond dogs
kind regards
In response to your comments.

I fell for it too and was a Benn fan for a long time..there was always something not quite right though...he never seemed genuine..like Galloway..

To be honest, in business, there is no such thing as a "genuine" person.
Politics is a business and a business that attracts powermongers and demagougues.
Guys like Benn and Galloway were simply smart enough to create the carefully cultivated image of opposers to the "evil" Bush and Blair.
Its no different than Cheryl Cole (who I perceive as a cold hearted businesswoman type in reality) opposing the "evil" Simon Cowell on X Factor and gaining popularity that she doesn't really deserve.
People are so dumb and polarized that they buy into the polarity, yet those people leading the charge in polarity issues are merely clever money makers.

they are fake but Benn imo is much more dangerous a snake like Mandelson..spouts off a few things that he knows won't change a thing..but deep down is playing the part and for so long....now look at his offspring promoting Monsanto.. It defies logic..and now Benn showing his true colours now the agenda is about to lift it's veil

I think that I agree.
Also when I concluded my nice chat with Benn and had my picture taken with him, he gave me a masonic handshake.
I always found that strange untill I did research, it turns out that he is a freemason.

He should be given a knighthood now imo

I bought his published diary (which he personally autographed and I still own) and he always speaks positively about the Queen in the book.

Arise Sir Anthony Wedgwood Benn you have served your bloodline well........

99.99% of the elected politicians are in favour of the Illuminati system, either because they directly know what the agenda is through their bloodline positition or because they are simply careerists doing whatever they can to maintain and enhance their power base.
In either of the above cases they are pretty much the enemy of the decent individual.
It matters not whether the politicians are pro US empire or pro EU, they are favouring the World government that the elites are working working hard to impose on us.
yours thankfully
John

[steevo]

bump

[dreamweaver]

I like Tony Benn, I don't agree with every dot and comma of what he says but on the whole he seems pretty sound.

His son's politics are horrible, he's an utter NuLab toady.

[mikey mikey]

I agree with dreamweaver. Good post!