Seeking survival advice

[chainbreaker]

A friend of mine is in a really bad situation, alone with nobody to assist him, without income and psychologically scarred as life dealt him many twisted situations with people and loved ones throughout the past few years.
He feels he needs to just chill out and relax for a while, to get things back together.

The problem being he has no money, and wanting to isolate himself for self healing, the financial situation is a problem. As crazy this all may sound, I have known this man most of his life and understand that some things that can happen in ones life are disturbing on levels we can not imagine. Although this man has conqured most of these mental obstacles easily, the last few his loved ones had dealt him really took tolls on his usual happy, social and fruitiful well being.

So far I'v seeked out cheap supermarkets, suggested a few cheap meal combinations to keep healthy with and suggested physical training.
Thats all I could offer personally.
I would like to hear some of your own personal strategious tips and advices which you would happily share covering; living on a budget and everything you would wish to advise concerning independant living and self health, if you may have anything to add:)
Any advice what so ever that you may able to provide to this honest and hurt young man who is in desperate need to get away from the problem causing situations and cards life has dealt him in order to come back fitter and stronger than EVER, mentally and physically.

I figured this website would be a great place to get a variety of opinions for this type of situation. I hope to hear your suggestions asap. Many thanks.
On behalf of my best friend.

Cheers

[indigo]

Good job he has you eh? I think you are doing fine. What you have suggested is what i would have said. With money being so tight there isn't really an awful lot more you can do. You are there for him which is great. Is he taking any medication? And does he live alone? I think the first step is getting him to feel good about himself with healthy eating and fitness, as you are doing. Then perhaps he can build up enough confidence to go and look for work and earn some money. If he is helping himself and wants it to happen, then i'm sure it will. It will just take a bit of time.

[chainbreaker]

Good job he has you eh? I think you are doing fine. What you have suggested is what i would have said. With money being so tight there isn't really an awful lot more you can do. You are there for him which is great. Is he taking any medication? And does he live alone? I think the first step is getting him to feel good about himself with healthy eating and fitness, as you are doing. Then perhaps he can build up enough confidence to go and look for work and earn some money. If he is helping himself and wants it to happen, then i'm sure it will. It will just take a bit of time.

I hate to see a potential king fall victim to the twining of others cold lies, its the worst thing to experience when you live with somebody who you try to trust, but cant as they continiously create disgusting stories about you, thats the case with my friend. He became paranoid because of this. He will defeat it im sure, but he doesnt want to harm the lady who is and has been causing him all the trouble, although he easily could..

As far as I know hes against panadols, so I highly doubt he would resort to any sort of medication. He refers to it all as BS and states that the mindframe is the best medication of all. Funny how somebody found or discovered a weakness in this type of person and operated untill he snapped.
Hes not living alone Yet, he has about another week or two until his bachelor is ready, hes a little bit concerned with the situation he will face when it all happens.

So time it will take im sure, but once he overcomes this oversized hurdle im sure he will be back to the one I look up to again, and better.

So thanks for your reply, if you have any simple tasty recipies? May you share them here?

Or tips about house cleaning or anything this young man could benifit from in his attempt for freedom, much appreciated everybody.

Id kiss all the females for this if I could but, i hope this e-kiss will do }MWA{ :P

[auron]

I was in a similar state a few years ago, and i know how difficult it is. But believe me, i think the guy will be fine once he's sorted his head out. Also with people like you around him, it will make all the difference. All i can say is just be there for him, and time has it's ways of healing people. Personally i think he is going through a major traumatic stage which will eventually pass, and in a year or so, he will be a really spiritual person.

I recommend downloading: A Course In Miracles from Here (http://www.badongo.com/file/2723151) and get him to read it.

That book really helped me when i felt i had no-one to turn to.

Love Auron :)

[chainbreaker]

I was in a similar state a few years ago, and i know how difficult it is. But believe me, i think the guy will be fine once he's sorted his head out. Also with people like you around him, it will make all the difference. All i can say is just be there for him, and time has it's ways of healing people. Personally i think he is going through a major traumatic stage which will eventually pass, and in a year or so, he will be a really spiritual person.

I recommend downloading: A Course In Miracles from Here (http://www.badongo.com/file/2723151) and get him to read it.

That book really helped me when i felt i had no-one to turn to.

Love Auron :)

Thank you very much for that Auron, i will pass that text to him. Im sure he will appreciate it and with you the highest of all blessings.

[azure]

No reason to waste time in the vague hope that things will magically clear up by cowering from the world. Tell him to find a Practitioner of NLP in his area. Assuming they're competent, he'll be over all his problems and propelled on his way towards the life he wants by the next day.

[indigo]

So thanks for your reply, if you have any simple tasty recipies? May you share them here?

Tuna pasta;
Tin of tuna
jar of pasta sauce
pasta:D

Spaghetti boblognaise;
Mince
mushrooms
jar of pasta sauce
spaghetti:D

Chilli con carne;
mince
kidney beans
tinned tomatos
rice
packet mix:D

lasagne;
mince
mushrooms
white sauce
pasta sauce
lasagne sheets:D

All good sources of protien there to help him feel stronger, also adding a few extra veggies too.:D It wouldn't neccessarly be the way I go about it, but what i have suggessted is on a budget and pretty easy to cook.

House cleaning:confused: now you got me. lol

[auron]

Thank you very much for that Auron, i will pass that text to him. Im sure he will appreciate it and with you the highest of all blessings.

Your very welcome :)

Trust me, all of us on this journey have to go through some really difficult times in our lives, and when you look back over the years it all makes sense why you had to experience what you did. Because it really makes you into a strong character that can help others on the road.

Auron :)

[indigo]

You can look up stuff about eating on a budget on the net, just had a quick look and found this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onelife/education/18/recipes1.shtml :D

[fantana]

Tell him to be a man and get on with his life.

[a fine naked fellow]

When I was poor I ate a lot of potatoes and ramen noodles.

[i_am]

I hate to see a potential king fall victim to the twining of others cold lies, its the worst thing to experience when you live with somebody who you try to trust, but cant as they continiously create disgusting stories about you, thats the case with my friend. He became paranoid because of this. He will defeat it im sure, but he doesnt want to harm the lady who is and has been causing him all the trouble, although he easily could..

As far as I know hes against panadols, so I highly doubt he would resort to any sort of medication. He refers to it all as BS and states that the mindframe is the best medication of all. Funny how somebody found or discovered a weakness in this type of person and operated untill he snapped.
Hes not living alone Yet, he has about another week or two until his bachelor is ready, hes a little bit concerned with the situation he will face when it all happens.

So time it will take im sure, but once he overcomes this oversized hurdle im sure he will be back to the one I look up to again, and better.

So thanks for your reply, if you have any simple tasty recipies? May you share them here?

Or tips about house cleaning or anything this young man could benifit from in his attempt for freedom, much appreciated everybody.

Id kiss all the females for this if I could but, i hope this e-kiss will do }MWA{ :P

It is wonderful that your friend has you for support. The fact that he wishes to self heal and does not take any medication is also a plus.

There are many online places where you can find easy to make and cheap recipes. 500 gms of mince meat goes a long way especially when added to rice, pasta, two minute noodles. Fresh fruit and veg are very important.

Work out with him if you can as it is so easy to get bored when doing it alone. As the body gets fit and healthy so does the mind. Meditate as stilling the chitter chatter mind allows healing to take place.

What tips do you want for housecleaning?

Don't put things down, put them away :p In his present state of mind clutter is not something that would be conducive to his feeling good about himself. Make the bed, do the dishes. The maid is not going to come and clean up and it can get real messy, real quick. Don't buy expensive cleaning agents. They are a rip off. Vinegar is good for cleaning and is inexpensive. There are some good environmentally friendly washing up liquid and washing liquid or powder that don't cost the earth.

Aromatherapy is excellent for the mind. Choose oils for a relaxed state of mind to start with and then later introduce some that stimulate.

[i_am]

When I was poor I ate a lot of potatoes and ramen noodles.

LOL me too :D

[auron]

I usually just eat vegetables and stuff like that with either rice or pasta, with plenty of bread. Thats about it really :) i never have enough money to buy fancy meals, but i don't care because what i make tastes great and is cheap!

Also i like mushrooms! (of the magic variety - nudge nudge,wink wink! :rolleyes: )

Auron :)

[auron]

Aromatherapy is excellent for the mind. Choose oils for a relaxed state of mind to start and the later introduce some that stimulate.

Also get some incense sticks, put up spiritually uplifting posters, house plants, flowers etc. I have stuff like that in my house, and it really keeps you in a cheerful mood - especially when the place is immaculately tidy!

How about music? Try a bit of John Lennon, Renaissance, Quintessence :) Works wonders!

Auron :)

[Anders Lindman]

A friend of mine is in a really bad situation

Don't look at the future with shit-colored glasses and both you and your friend will be FINE. Do you know what I'm saying?

[turquoisefyre]

A friend of mine is in a really bad situation, alone with nobody to assist him, without income and psychologically scarred as life dealt him many twisted situations with people and loved ones throughout the past few years.
He feels he needs to just chill out and relax for a while, to get things back together.

....Cheers


wow, now this story sounds very familiar...

i'd highly recomend getting into stone/crystal therapy. i was pretty much a shattered fukker last year, and i could only go for the most safest ways of healing. the stones/crystals all have energy/vibrations that can assist with the healing. make sure they are proberly cleared and cleaned tho.

also, watch diets. NO aspartame, MSG (yeats extract etc) or loads of sugar.
i'd also recommend being physically busy as possible.

my current recipe is:

*lots of garlic and onions (blood purifiers)
* mince (boiled and drained a few time to get rid of excess fat, filtered water!)
*mixed vedge
*tomatoes if you wat
*brown (wholemeal) fusili pasta

[Anders Lindman]

Don't look at the future with shit-colored glasses and both you and your friend will be FINE. Do you know what I'm saying?

I am often looking at the world with shit-colored glasses myself, but maybe that's the problem that has to be dealt with first. To examine the problem-colored glasses we are wearing.

[Mo0n5tar]

if you want to help this person run an amazon search on Arnold Ehret, pick up some of his books which are dirt cheap, give the books a read, attempt the methods for superior health and the superior fasts and then begin to live as man was intended to by god.

[Mo0n5tar]

arnold ehret - Google Search

[bookini]

This is a really good site http://www.moneysavingexpert.com (http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/)

The forum there also has tons of ideas and advice which might be useful in his situation:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/

:)

[wideawake]

Maybe this man needs to grow a pair of bollocks instead of laying about feeling sorry for himself.

Remember this; Energy creates energy. Lazyness creates....well lazyness. need tips on house cleaning? Elbow grease man. You can't expect other people do keep doing all your dirty work. why wont he take anti-depressants? Fuck me, if i felt unhappy and wanted to get better then i would, rather than putting my shit on others and wallowing in self pitty:rolleyes:

[pollock]

Maybe this man needs to grow a pair of bollocks instead of laying about feeling sorry for himself.

Remember this; Energy creates energy. Lazyness creates....well lazyness. need tips on house cleaning? Elbow grease man. You can't expect other people do keep doing all your dirty work. why wont he take anti-depressants? Fuck me, if i felt unhappy and wanted to get better then i would, rather than putting my shit on others and wallowing in self pitty:rolleyes:

What an absolutely offensive post!

F

[i_am]

What an absolutely offensive post!

F

Glad someone said that :D

Why the hell would anyone take anti-depressants? Sheee!! Good food, fitness and good friends will do more for you than anything the drug pushers can do.

[quelyn]

A few more thoughts: Gather all "stuff" laying about and sell to a 2nd hand shop. Corny music like marching, polka & waltz raise the mood plus you can get up and move to the sound. Color in the home check/add bright calming colors like yellow, pink. Go to zoos, parks where ever you might encounter animals and soothing water. Pet of some variety maybe fish or bird to watch. Spiritual practices [too many to list] but setting intentions and being in gratitude daily can change sad patterns.

[Anders Lindman]

Energy creates energy. Lazyness creates....well lazyness.

The total amount of energy is probably the same, but laziness is a kind of internal friction which dissipates energy. The same with depression and things like that. The total energy level is not low, but internal friction wastes a lot of the energy so that the person has less to spend in an active way.

[truthcommission]

Most of the advice given so far although well meaning is totally misguided.

Tips on cheap meals and saving money are not going to solve the root problem which is psychological in nature. All it will achieve is to keep this person poor and powerless.

Once he has the courage to go inside and really face his demons all the sitting around reading books or eating emergency food is futile.

He needs to get some flow in his life and stop being a victim. If he is not gainfully employed why can't he do volunteer work? He may find a whole new world open up to him and discover that his 'problems' are insignificant in the greater scheme of things.

Neurosis is always a substitute for legitimate suffering.
Carl Gustav Jung

[wideawake]

What an absolutely offensive post!

FMaybe, but people who wont get help feed off other peoples energies sapping the good person of there humour and strenghth bringing them down with them. Some people seem to think the world owes them a favour.:rolleyes:

[pollock]

Maybe, but people who wont get help feed off other peoples energies sapping the good person of there humour and strenghth bringing them down with them. Some people seem to think the world owes them a favour.:rolleyes:

Well, first of all it was not the man himself who asked for the help, but a friend witch in it self makes it a lovely action, and then I dont think taking time of to gather your energies after diaster has struck your life is nessesarily "being lazy".
I know that when my sister died unexpectedly at an young age, I was not capable of "pulling myself together" just like that!
I needed time to digest what had happened and thank god I had family and friends who stood by me and helped me through until I could stop " feeding off other peoples energies sapping the good person of there humour and strenghth bringing them down with them." (you sound very bitter there, bad experiences?)
So if you get offended by someone trying to help a friend I suggest you dont read this post anymore.

Peace
F

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NOTICE

[tru3]

When I was poor I ate a lot of potatoes and ramen noodles.


zen hash: brown rice and sauteed carrots. at least you're getting some vitamins! :) not bad with a little salt and pepper. i've had friends subsist on this for months at a time.

auron: i agree "the course" is truly remarkable, but i also believe in maslow's hierarchy of needs. it's hard to focus on forgivness and divine love when one's belly is empty.

[queenreptile]

A friend of mine is in a really bad situation, alone with nobody to assist him, without income and psychologically scarred as life dealt him many twisted situations with people and loved ones throughout the past few years.
He feels he needs to just chill out and relax for a while, to get things back together.

The problem being he has no money, and wanting to isolate himself for self healing, the financial situation is a problem. As crazy this all may sound, I have known this man most of his life and understand that some things that can happen in ones life are disturbing on levels we can not imagine. Although this man has conqured most of these mental obstacles easily, the last few his loved ones had dealt him really took tolls on his usual happy, social and fruitiful well being.

So far I'v seeked out cheap supermarkets, suggested a few cheap meal combinations to keep healthy with and suggested physical training.
Thats all I could offer personally.
I would like to hear some of your own personal strategious tips and advices which you would happily share covering; living on a budget and everything you would wish to advise concerning independant living and self health, if you may have anything to add:)
Any advice what so ever that you may able to provide to this honest and hurt young man who is in desperate need to get away from the problem causing situations and cards life has dealt him in order to come back fitter and stronger than EVER, mentally and physically.

I figured this website would be a great place to get a variety of opinions for this type of situation. I hope to hear your suggestions asap. Many thanks.
On behalf of my best friend.

Cheers

I am very sad to here of your friends predicament. I believe you are doing good for him.This person needs help from health care professionals.Suggesting it to him will cause a backlash against you.
Being alone and frightened will kill him.I know as i have had pals like this. In your position, i would contact his doctor.