We're Gonna Bomb Iran, & Theres Nothing You Can Do

[pduffy4]

please watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIPART47bIs&feature=rec-fresh

[friendsinthesky]

How about a new forum experiment: "Dis-arm the bombs"..:cool:

[phonicboom]

please watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIPART47bIs&feature=rec-fresh

yeah watch, good! (well bad subject, good talk)

[phildee3]

Don't forget the Malmstrom missile shut-down in 1967.

Think positive.
Visualize it happening again, - and more.

[ninorc]

please watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIPART47bIs&feature=rec-fresh
I don't see Lindsey Williams' alleged connection between the write-off of Third World Debt (which hasn't actually happened, so far as I can tell) and the ratcheting up of oil prices. Mind you, I don't get half of what Ron Paul says, either. I mostly understand George Green, but he doesn't seem to notice the contradiction between what he says about the imminent collapse of the global financial system and his advice to buy gold, as if it has some intrinsic value that will enable you to continue to purchase goods and services. Verily, the US and UK are two nations divided by a common language.

[resistance]

Treacherous leaders will continue to do as they please because the masses have long gone to sleep, including many on so called truth movements. It will soon get a whole lot worse though, so If the day ever comes for you to choose what to do, will you fight for your freedom or lay down like lambs to the slaughter?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofotzbP3jJM&feature=related

[mightiswrong]

How about a new forum experiment: "Dis-arm the bombs"

Would it be possible to ask the microbes to eat up all the bombs very very fast? :)

[lightworks]

he looks like a reptilian entity possesed...is he realted to george bush...and his brimstone and fire style preaching....and I stopped listen at the words "overthrow"....so far I think or my feeling is that its an illuminati "focus on the bullshit we want you to,and rebel within this parameters and speech free zones"....why not just walk or ride horses whats the damn rush to get evrywhere so damn quick?:p

[mightiswrong]

mmmm horses. I really like the idea of having a horse. much better then a car. horse can be a friend as well and it can have children and eats a lot of things (free fuel). horses don't make however many hudred explosions a second either. how many cars can reproduce themselves?

[lightworks]

mmmm horses. I really like the idea of having a horse. much better then a car. horse can be a friend as well and it can have children and eats a lot of things (free fuel). horses don't make however many hudred explosions a second either. how many cars can reproduce themselves?
yes an horses are psycic.....I always prefer the middle ages..I had a past life as a dwarf beggar....I remember that there was so much more space and greenery..people were much much stronger and healthier....
what the fuck is the fucking rush for christ sake
what about remebering that we are living in and on a living being?

[resistance]

he looks like a reptilian entity possesed...is he realted to george bush...and his brimstone and fire style preaching....and I stopped listen at the words "overthrow"....so far I think or my feeling is that its an illuminati "focus on the bullshit we want you to,and rebel within this parameters and speech free zones"....why not just walk or ride horses whats the damn rush to get evrywhere so damn quick?:p

Not every congressman/woman is a shape shifting reptilian, in fact i doubt that none of them are at all, evil people have the capability to do anything possible no matter what, reptilian or not..or the consequences. Yu see to me this whole reptilian thing is a hoax which only helps ridicule many conspiracy theories, when the masses need awakening the last thing they wan't to hear is how this planet is run by lizards, maybe it is who cares, but lets talk sense not lunacy when trying to tell the truth..

[phildee3]

Don't forget the Malmstrom missile shut-down in 1967.

Think positive.
Visualize it happening again, - and more.

Okay then, don't.
Keep thinking your negative, paranoid, "we're all gonna die" crap.

You will.

I'll find another way...

[rise_to_addiction]

I have to agree with you resistance.
I'll admit that I haven't researched into the reptilian thing much at all.I'm a normal hard working chap who tries to make sense of things at face value first without attaching a conspiracy to every event taking place.

It's this approach which has steadily opened my eyes over the years and eventually lead me to places such as this forum. There hasn't been anyone in my life who 'got me into it'.

I rarely talk about issues discussed on here to people in general because I realise the majority simply do not want to know. 'you're not one of those conspiracy theorists are you?' followed by an ignorant chuckle. I simply reply 'not at all, I just don't believe everything we're told is quite the way it is' to which they almost always agree but are happy to let the bigwigs sort it out.

As soon as you talk about Reptiles, Aliens, Paranormal, UFO's etc.. they're either 'into it' because it's freaky and cool but know very little or they think you're wacko.

By bleeding out information that people can relate to and actually see happening then we're fighting a losing battle I reckon.

[jozen bo]

please watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIPART47bIs&feature=rec-fresh

I watched the whole thing and found it very interesting, though I didn't hear anything about bombing Iran...though I gathered that the reasoning behind such an act is shared here.

Its very hard to imagine America bombing Iran at this point without appearing as a world dictator criminal government to the point where MANY other countries would take notice and ACTION to protect them selves from being dominated. Iran is now trading with both China and Russia, and to bomb it would be to offend these two very powerful countries, both of which have power to stand up against the USA and deter it from throwing its weight around thoughtlessly. In short...bombing Iran could very well possibly lead to a War so nasty that even the riches the rich have so crookedly taken would be lost and no one would gain anything...

[resistance]

[QUOTE=rise_to_addiction;431097]I have to agree with you resistance.

Thanx, no matter how much i may respect Icke for some of his work, there is somethings that do not add up in my book? why go on national TV and claim to be the son of god? why talk about a global conspiracy in great detail and then make yourself look like a lunatic at the same time, maybe he just made mistakes? i'm not one of those who claims he is working on both sides but something doesn't add up :confused: infinite love is a nice thought but is this the right time while we stand back and let others enslave us? infinite love will not save us from the NWO, anymore than the great rapture will save Christians from the troubles of the world, this is all illusion in my view.

[resistance]

I watched the whole thing and found it very interesting, though I didn't hear anything about bombing Iran...though I gathered that the reasoning behind such an act is shared here.

Its very hard to imagine America bombing Iran at this point without appearing as a world dictator criminal government to the point where MANY other countries would take notice and ACTION to protect them selves from being dominated. Iran is now trading with both China and Russia, and to bomb it would be to offend these two very powerful countries, both of which have power to stand up against the USA and deter it from throwing its weight around thoughtlessly. In short...bombing Iran could very well possibly lead to a War so nasty that even the riches the rich have so crookedly taken would be lost and no one would gain anything...


Maybe, i hope that you are right and sense prevails, but somehow i doubt it.

[rise_to_addiction]

I have wondered how Icke would be perceived now had he not mentioned the Reptilian agenda and Son of God stuff in his early days. The good thing is, there's a heck of a lot more people listening to him now.

[jozen bo]

I have wondered how Icke would be perceived now had he not mentioned the Reptilian agenda and Son of God stuff in his early days. The good thing is, there's a heck of a lot more people listening to him now.

Why must people give my son such a hard time about being honest???;)

And regarding the Reptilian agenda...how can we be sure of anything these days, does anyone have TOTAL proof of ANYTHING? Since the clear answer is no...then ANYTHING is possible.

[dangermouse]

Why must people give my son such a hard time about being honest???;)

And regarding the Reptilian agenda...how can we be sure of anything these days, does anyone have TOTAL proof of ANYTHING? Since the clear answer is no...then ANYTHING is possible.

Even Alex Jones said he agreed with 99% of what David says and he says lately in such a crazy place who knows about the other 1%

[rise_to_addiction]

I think the problem with that outlook though is nothing would get resolved. Everyone has their own theories or believes in one more than the other but if we accept that anything and everything is possible (equally?) then we may as well just shrug our shoulders at whatever gets thrown at us.

Out of all the problems & issues we raise on here there are only a few we could realistically fight against and win based on hard facts and plausible solutions. whatever you believe in thre's only so much we can do.

- We can't stop Planet X but we can continue to find out if it's true and make people aware and prepare.

- ID Chips, as above

- Exposing false political agendas & false flags attacks with the people responsible etc...


Small steps. We know the above (and more) is going to happen in the VERY near future if not already

[emanuel]

Okay then, don't.
Keep thinking your negative, paranoid, "we're all gonna die" crap.

You will.

I'll find another way...

Hey Phil I'm with you on that.

But we should do positive things, not just think 'em :)

[phildee3]

Hey Phil I'm with you on that.

But we should do positive things, not just think 'em :)

sure, - both.

Well that's two of us.
And in my book it only takes "two or more."

Let's shut 'em down, bud!
The title of this thread is false!!

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Not every congressman/woman is a shape shifting reptilian, in fact i doubt that none of them are at all, evil people have the capability to do anything possible no matter what, reptilian or not..or the consequences. Yu see to me this whole reptilian thing is a hoax which only helps ridicule many conspiracy theories, when the masses need awakening the last thing they wan't to hear is how this planet is run by lizards, maybe it is who cares, but lets talk sense not lunacy when trying to tell the truth..


The reptilian bilge is based upon the 'reptilian' area of the brain... and the creative ghostwriters did a Great job of nullifying the truth (about this corrupt system) with it!

[phonicboom]

bah, my post formatted wrong, [deleted], I will have to post later, got to go out now... anyway i was going off topic :)

[darketernal]

Not every congressman/woman is a shape shifting reptilian, in fact i doubt that none of them are at all, evil people have the capability to do anything possible no matter what, reptilian or not..or the consequences. Yu see to me this whole reptilian thing is a hoax which only helps ridicule many conspiracy theories, when the masses need awakening the last thing they wan't to hear is how this planet is run by lizards, maybe it is who cares, but lets talk sense not lunacy when trying to tell the truth..

It may be a hoax to you, but it is a reality for me, and is a major factor in me really listening to what Icke has to say. No one else is out there in the opening talking about the reptilians. I don't think he has everything right on the subject but he is putting it out there for discussion. The reptilian issue is now on the table thanks to Icke.

[sieben]

ok, that what the guy in the vid said makes absolutly more sense than any other fracking shape shifter illusion or alien invasion crap. It's simply the simplest think like it is everytime "MONEY". All the Bushes and other fracking freaks want money. Get richer then others and raise there power. What happen with people when they are rich? They want power then, the next logical step most of the time.

PS: If there is a Planet X, why wants the NWO to microchip us? To count victims better? If they want to microchip it defnitly wont happen the next 20 years, so? It collidates a little with 2012 planing eh? If they want it to do directly after 2012, with what infrastructure?

[emanuel]

sure, - both.

Well that's two of us.
And in my book it only takes "two or more."

Let's shut 'em down, bud!
The title of this thread is false!!

Yeah man, the title is false. Though I think it would take more than two of us to make a significant difference maybe?! Time to revolt people. :cool:

[phildee3]

Yeah man, the title is false. Though I think it would take more than two of us to make a significant difference maybe?! Time to revolt people. :cool:

The thing is, the title is true with regards to strictly the material world. Tbtb have a huge advantage, they have the power. A revolution ain't gonna do it, imo. Hell, everything is in place to declare marshall law overnight. We'd be like a mosquito on the arm of a giant.

No, I'm thinking working on the etheric (which they do too but where we, at least, have a chance), with visualising peace, asking those who reside in the higher planes for "divine intervention," etc.
Call 'em angels, benificant aliens, whatever, they are there - ready to work with us and to intercede (like they did at Maelstrom).

On the physical plane, power is measured quantitatively,
in the etheric/spiritual worlds, qualitatively.

In such an exercise we don't gain advantage by power of numbers but by purity if intent.

[resistance]

It may be a hoax to you, but it is a reality for me, and is a major factor in me really listening to what Icke has to say. No one else is out there in the opening talking about the reptilians. I don't think he has everything right on the subject but he is putting it out there for discussion. The reptilian issue is now on the table thanks to Icke.

What Icke has to say makes sense, in the main, but does it really matter if the NWO is run by reptilians or power mad crazed lunatics? either one is as bad as each other, in fact i think you may get more understanding out of a reptile than you would from some of these sub human leaders..

[resistance]

The thing is, the title is true with regards to strictly the material world. Tbtb have a huge advantage, they have the power. A revolution ain't gonna do it, imo. Hell, everything is in place to declare marshall law overnight. We'd be like a mosquito on the arm of a giant.

No, I'm thinking working on the etheric (which they do too but where we, at least, have a chance), with visualising peace, asking those who reside in the higher planes for "divine intervention," etc.
Call 'em angels, benificant aliens, whatever, they are there - ready to work with us and to intercede (like they did at Maelstrom).

On the physical plane, power is measured quantitatively,
in the etheric/spiritual worlds, qualitatively.

In such an exercise we don't gain advantage by power of numbers but by purity if intent.


Maybe and maybe not, try telling that to all the unfortunate Iranians in Tehran when the Israeli bombs hit, tearing their homes and families apart:mad:and they may well understandably think you are deluded.

[phildee3]

Maybe and maybe not, try telling that to all the unfortunate Iranians in Tehran when the Israeli bombs hit, tearing their homes and families apart:mad:and they may well understandably think you are deluded.

They won't when they hear that there was a mysterious launch failure when the button was pressed!

Listen, I'm not trying to discourage the revolution,
it all helps.
A mosquito is better than nowt.

I'm just putting my energy where I think is the most useful.

I suggest everyone does the same.

[resistance]

They won't when they hear that there was a mysterious launch failure when the button was pressed!

Listen, I'm not trying to discourage the revolution,
it all helps.
A mosquito is better than nowt.

I'm just putting my energy where I think is the most useful.

I suggest everyone does the same.

Fair comment, but don't bank on there being a mysterious launch failure..the Awakening of the American commanders is more likely, but again unlikely..

[phildee3]

Fair comment, but don't bank on there being a mysterious launch failure..the Awakening of the American commanders is more likely, but again unlikely..




The only thing I'm banking on is the light prevailing.
How it happens is not so important but I reckon it will be a bit of both rather than either/or.

Banking on global annhiliation is dumb, -
either way you lose!

Viva la revolution!

[resistance]

The only thing I'm banking on is the light prevailing.
How it happens is not so important but I reckon it will be a bit of both rather than either/or.

Banking on global annhiliation is dumb, -
either way you lose!

Viva la revolution!

Who's banking on global annihilation? i never bank on anything, i don't bank on light prevailing either, the victory of good over evil is only assured by actions and not words.

[phildee3]

Who's banking on global annihilation?



pduffy4, it would seem, -
and those who agree with him.



i never bank on anything,



Not true.

You are investing your time in writing on this forum,
and in many other things, presumably, -
banking on a desirable outcome.

Sometimes ya win, sometimes ya loose.



the victory of good over evil is only assured by actions and not words.



Very true,
but words inspire action.

The action I am taking I have already stated.
Had I been younger and more fit, I would probably be joining you in a more physical activism.

Good luck and God bless.

[mightiswrong]

Bombing Iran is not a certainty. They have been saying this for years and you know what it hasn't happened. We can stop war from happening and thinking and feeling good thoughts is a big part of that because it leads to action.

There must be a goal and a strong reason WHY.

Why do we want to stop a war, an elite few, greed, destruction?

There are interventions made by God if you like. God is probably those good feelings and thoughts crystalised in a clear vision of the world we wish to see materialise.

Look at the amazing cancelled train on 7/7 for example.

Or the story in the cambridge news giving eye witness testimony that something was ary and this by a Man sitting closest to the bomb.

"The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag," he said.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_royston/displayarticle.asp?id=211633

Disempowering people is not a good thing. An individual Man can make all the difference and together we are unstoppable.

[emanuel]

The thing is, the title is true with regards to strictly the material world. Tbtb have a huge advantage, they have the power. A revolution ain't gonna do it, imo. Hell, everything is in place to declare marshall law overnight. We'd be like a mosquito on the arm of a giant.

No, I'm thinking working on the etheric (which they do too but where we, at least, have a chance), with visualising peace, asking those who reside in the higher planes for "divine intervention," etc.
Call 'em angels, benificant aliens, whatever, they are there - ready to work with us and to intercede (like they did at Maelstrom).

On the physical plane, power is measured quantitatively,
in the etheric/spiritual worlds, qualitatively.

In such an exercise we don't gain advantage by power of numbers but by purity if intent.

I feel obliged to clarify what I meant in say 'time to revolt people'!

I agree with you Phil in your methods. I did not mean we should take up arms and storm parliament!!! I meant a spiritual revoltution, not spiritual in the religious sense but in the 'complete human potential' sense......if that makes any sense???

Basically I think that as complete or pure human beings our power is far greater than some may ever imagine. I'm also not saying I know what it is to be 'pure' or 'complete' but that is what I am working on at the moment because with our full potential I don't think we would need intervention from a higher plane, we are already connected to higher planes (all be it by a thread these days) we just need a little intervention to help us along that's all. IMO peeps ;)

Mother Earth is a big ball of energy and once we tap back into that energy, the sourse, and unify with it 'they' and their material selves will then be the mosquito on our giant arm and I don't just mean that metaphorically. :)

[phildee3]

There are interventions made by God if you like.



Not by my God - the all-that-is,
but by angels who intervene on his/her/it's behalf.



God is probably those good feelings and thoughts crystalised in a clear vision of the world we wish to see materialise.



Yessss...
nicely put.

[phildee3]

...once we tap back into that energy, the sourse, and unify with it 'they' and their material selves will then be the mosquito on our giant arm



Nice one, -
excellent visualisation.

So mote it be!

Pass the fly swatter!

[ninorc]

Bombing Iran is not a certainty. They have been saying this for years and you know what it hasn't happened. We can stop war from happening and thinking and feeling good thoughts is a big part of that because it leads to action.
Totally agree (also that this thread is mis-titled). I'm sure that Bush and co. want to bomb Iran and have been trying to find a pretext and to manufacture consent for the past two years, at least. I don't have much cluie as to what's going on in the US, but the message I'm receiving from this web site is pretty encouraging: http://www.stopwaroniran.org/

[phildee3]

We can stop war from happening and thinking and feeling good thoughts is a big part of that because it leads to action.



Not only.
Thinking and feeling good thoughts is action in itself which can produce results.
I'd like to ask you all to visualise a positive outcome with the impeachment hearing tomorrow.

[mightiswrong]

Now that would put a fly in the ointment.:D

Interesting etymology.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Scanning_Electron_Micrograph_of_a_Flea.jpg/180px-Scanning_Electron_Micrograph_of_a_Flea.jpg
pic of a flea.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flee

[talkingchimp]

Now that would put a fly in the ointment.:D

Interesting etymology.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Scanning_Electron_Micrograph_of_a_Flea.jpg/180px-Scanning_Electron_Micrograph_of_a_Flea.jpg
pic of a flea.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flee

im sure the neighbours cat left one in my flat that keeps biting me

[mightiswrong]

As midnight approached, my guru might fall into a doze with the naturalness of a child. There was no fuss about bedding. He often lay down, without even a pillow, on a narrow davenport which was the background for his customary tiger-skin seat.

A night-long philosophical discussion was not rare; any disciple could summon it by intensity of interest. I felt no tiredness then, no desire for sleep; Master's living words were sufficient. "Oh, it is dawn! Let us walk by the Ganges." So ended many of my periods of nocturnal edification.

My early months with Sri Yukteswar culminated in a useful lesson-"How to Outwit a Mosquito." At home my family always used protective curtains at night. I was dismayed to discover that in the Serampore hermitage this prudent custom was honored in the breach. Yet the insects were in full residency; I was bitten from head to foot. My guru took pity on me.

"Buy yourself a curtain, and also one for me." He laughed and added, "If you buy only one, for yourself, all mosquitoes will concentrate on me!"

I was more than thankful to comply. Every night that I spent in Serampore, my guru would ask me to arrange the bedtime curtains.

The mosquitoes one evening were especially virulent. But Master failed to issue his usual instructions. I listened nervously to the anticipatory hum of the insects. Getting into bed, I threw a propitiatory prayer in their general direction. A half hour later, I coughed pretentiously to attract my guru's attention. I thought I would go mad with the bites and especially the singing drone as the mosquitoes celebrated bloodthirsty rites.

No responsive stir from Master; I approached him cautiously. He was not breathing. This was my first observation of him in the yogic trance; it filled me with fright.

"His heart must have failed!" I placed a mirror under his nose; no breath-vapor appeared. To make doubly certain, for minutes I closed his mouth and nostrils with my fingers. His body was cold and motionless. In a daze, I turned toward the door to summon help.

"So! A budding experimentalist! My poor nose!" Master's voice was shaky with laughter. "Why don't you go to bed? Is the whole world going to change for you? Change yourself: be rid of the mosquito consciousness."

Meekly I returned to my bed. Not one insect ventured near. I realized that my guru had previously agreed to the curtains only to please me; he had no fear of mosquitoes. His yogic power was such that he either could will them not to bite, or could escape to an inner invulnerability.

"He was giving me a demonstration," I thought. "That is the yogic state I must strive to attain." A yogi must be able to pass into, and continue in, the superconsciousness, regardless of multitudinous distractions never absent from this earth. Whether in the buzz of insects or the pervasive glare of daylight, the testimony of the senses must be barred. Sound and sight come then indeed, but to worlds fairer than the banished Eden. {FN12-7}

The instructive mosquitoes served for another early lesson at the ashram. It was the gentle hour of dusk. My guru was matchlessly interpreting the ancient texts. At his feet, I was in perfect peace. A rude mosquito entered the idyl and competed for my attention. As it dug a poisonous hypodermic needle into my thigh, I automatically raised an avenging hand. Reprieve from impending execution! An opportune memory came to me of one of Patanjali's yoga aphorisms-that on AHIMSA (harmlessness).

"Why didn't you finish the job?"

"Master! Do you advocate taking life?"

"No; but the deathblow already had been struck in your mind."

"I don't understand."

"Patanjali's meaning was the removal of DESIRE to kill." Sri Yukteswar had found my mental processes an open book. "This world is inconveniently arranged for a literal practice of AHIMSA. Man may be compelled to exterminate harmful creatures. He is not under similar compulsion to feel anger or animosity. All forms of life have equal right to the air of MAYA. The saint who uncovers the secret of creation will be in harmony with its countless bewildering expressions. All men may approach that understanding who curb the inner passion for destruction."

"Guruji, should one offer himself a sacrifice rather than kill a wild beast?"

"No; man's body is precious. It has the highest evolutionary value because of unique brain and spinal centers. These enable the advanced devotee to fully grasp and express the loftiest aspects of divinity. No lower form is so equipped. It is true that one incurs the debt of a minor sin if he is forced to kill an animal or any living thing. But the VEDAS teach that wanton loss of a human body is a serious transgression against the karmic law."

I sighed in relief; scriptural reinforcement of one's natural instincts is not always forthcoming.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Autobiography_of_a_Yogi/Chapter_12

[mightiswrong]

From the same chapter (relating to "fly in the ointment" above):

"The body is a treacherous friend. Give it its due; no more," he said. "Pain and pleasure are transitory; endure all dualities with calmness, while trying at the same time to remove their hold. Imagination is the door through which disease as well as healing enters. Disbelieve in the reality of sickness even when you are ill; an unrecognized visitor will flee!"
(emphasis added)

[mynameis]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


Officials: US talks to Iran to legitimize attack
Jul 27, 2008 23:23 | Updated Jul 28, 2008 8:27
By YAAKOV KATZ

Recent talks the United States held with Iran are aimed at creating legitimacy for a potential attack against Iranian nuclear facilities, defense officials speculated on Sunday as Defense Minister Ehud Barak headed to Washington for talks with senior administration officials.
IDF Chief of General Staff Lt...

Barak will travel to Washington and New York and will hold talks with his counterpart Robert Gates, Vice President Dick Cheney, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Michael Mullen, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley.

Officials said it was likely that President George W. Bush would join the meeting between Barak and Hadley. On Wednesday, Barak will fly to New York for a brief meeting with United Nations Secretary-General Ban-Ki Moon.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331116435&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


Iran has up to 6,000 enrichment centrifuges: Ahmadinejad

AFP
Sunday, July 27, 2008

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that Iran has boosted the number of uranium-enriching centrifuges to up to 6,000, in an expansion of its nuclear drive that defies international calls for a freeze.

“Today they (the West) have agreed that the existing 5,000 to 6,000 centrifuges do not increase and that there is no problem if this number of centrifuges work,” Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by state radio.

Ahmadinejad said in April that Iran was working to install 6,000 more centrifuges at an underground hall in a plant at its nuclear facility in Natanz, where it already had 3,000 running.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/iran-has-up-to-6000-enrichment-centrifuges-ahmadinejad.html
http://www.spacewar.com/2006/080726113119.w0m17wca.html

[lightworks]

It may be a hoax to you, but it is a reality for me, and is a major factor in me really listening to what Icke has to say. No one else is out there in the opening talking about the reptilians. I don't think he has everything right on the subject but he is putting it out there for discussion. The reptilian issue is now on the table thanks to Icke.thankyou dark eternal for you echo my thoughs prescisely......and I speak from personal experience and many rather different experiences with reptilians as a young c hild and older child....and having personally seen the reptile queen e-lizard-beth shapeshift...I truly beg to differ...there are many energetic frequencies some immediately visible to the average persons vision some not.....