Christian Bale arrested this morning

[seeker1111]

Normally I don't care about celebrity gossip but this is just interesting and I suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye. With Heath Ledger having died under such mysterious circmstances now Christian Bale 'supposedly' assaults his mother and sister? Strange...

***addition*** Because we got to talking about Heath in this post I thought I'd add this interesting link. http://dedroidify.blogspot.com/2008/07/heath-ledger-syncfest-crows-ravens-bats.html

LONDON -- Christian Bale, star of the latest Batman blockbuster, has been arrested in London on allegations of assault, British media reported on Tuesday.

The reports could not be independently confirmed but, when asked if Bale had been arrested, a police spokesman said:

"A 34-year-old man attended a central London police station this morning by appointment and was arrested in connection with an allegation of assault. He currently remains in custody."

The wording is the usual tangential way that British police have of confirming an arrest of a well-known personality.

The arrest follows an allegation of assault by his mother and sister, British tabloid Sun newspaper said.

It came the day after Bale attended the first European screening in London of "The Dark Knight," the latest in the Batman franchise also starring the late Heath Ledger as the Joker.

Ledger died of a drugs overdose shortly after completing the filming of Dark Knight, which took record box office receipts on its opening weekend in the United States.

Bale was on the red carpet with co-stars Michael Caine and Maggie Gyllenhaal in central London's Leicester Square on Monday night.

A martial arts enthusiast and environmental campaigner, Bale has also appeared in Batman Begins, American Psycho and Empire Of The Sun.

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http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=672044

[amethyst]

This sounds suspicious.

[mcthompson2x]

I'm not sure where there is enough information for anyone to make an assumption either way. I'm not sure what sort of threat Batman poses to anyone in particular though, so I doubt Heath Ledger's death had anything to do with the film, much less Bale's arrest this morning. I could be wrong but I really just can't see the connection at all... If there was ever an argument for a coincidence I'd use it here.

[amethyst]

I'm not sure where there is enough information for anyone to make an assumption either way. I'm not sure what sort of threat Batman poses to anyone in particular though, so I doubt Heath Ledger's death had anything to do with the film, much less Bale's arrest this morning. I could be wrong but I really just can't see the connection at all... If there was ever an argument for a coincidence I'd use it here.

Yep you're right...there isn't enough information to say what exactly what it is....I have my own suspicions tho.

"Batman" isn't the issue IMO.

[mcthompson2x]

Yep you're right...there isn't enough information to say what exactly what it is....I have my own suspicions tho.

"Batman" isn't the issue IMO.

What do you think it is? I'm interested, I like Christian Bale. I had a weird intuitive feeling about Heath Ledger's odd death when I thought of him at Batman's premiere the other night, but I didn't really think anything about it. I think I'm just starting to realize that a lot of public deaths are probably murders for various different reasons, and because of that I just wonder which ones are real and which ones are murders staged to look like random accidents or suicides.

[amethyst]

What do you think it is? I'm interested, I like Christian Bale. I had a weird intuitive feeling about Heath Ledger's odd death when I thought of him at Batman's premiere the other night, but I didn't really think anything about it. I think I'm just starting to realize that a lot of public deaths are probably murders for various different reasons, and because of that I just wonder which ones are real and which ones are murders staged to look like random accidents or suicides.

I like Christian Bale too. I think he is a good actor and I like his look. You want my opinion? I think he has been "used' by tptb unfortunately.

Similar to Heath. How much has he been "used"? When you start connecting the dots...you see a lot of things that are, well, "connected".

What do you think it is? I'm interested, I like Christian Bale. I had a weird intuitive feeling about Heath Ledger's odd death when I thought of him at Batman's premiere the other night, but I didn't really think anything about it. I think I'm just starting to realize that a lot of public deaths are probably murders for various different reasons, and because of that I just wonder which ones are real and which ones are murders staged to look like random accidents or suicides.

Yeah, I think that IS your intuition working there.

[steevo]

Normally I don't care about celebrity gossip but this is just interesting and I suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye. With Heath Ledger having died under such mysterious circmstances now Christian Bale 'supposedly' assaults his mother and sister? Strange...


http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=672044

When I saw that report in the Metro Newspaper *spit* I thought the same thing.

[mcthompson2x]

But how has he been used, aside from the way in which all actors are used? I do believe you, I'm just curious because I want to expand my own personal knowledge of the situation. Do you think that Heath was used to create a culture change with "Brokeback Mountain" or something of that nature? While I'm gay, I will admit that I can see how Brokeback Mountain (which was awful) might have been part of the larger scheme.

[seeker1111]

I'm not sure where there is enough information for anyone to make an assumption either way. I'm not sure what sort of threat Batman poses to anyone in particular though, so I doubt Heath Ledger's death had anything to do with the film, much less Bale's arrest this morning. I could be wrong but I really just can't see the connection at all... If there was ever an argument for a coincidence I'd use it here.

You could be right, however I've stumbled upon some really interesting articles where odd connections have been found regarding Heath Ledger and his roll as the Joker.

I can't seem to find the link right now, but I will as soon as I do in the meantime here are some interesting links..

http://peeringthrough.blogspot.com/2008/02/jokers-wild-part-ii.html
http://insidethecosmiccube.blogspot.com/2008/01/this-joke-is-not-funny.html

I also remember being weirded out a couple of months before Heath's death. I had a call from a production company working on the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus and they needed some crew ( I work in the industry off and on) and then I never heard from them because he died and it was called off...whatever work I was going to be involved in.

[mcthompson2x]

Is Batman some kind of an agenda movie, and Heath Ledger's death was used to catapult it into the stratosphere of highly influential, critically acclaimed movies?

I'm starting to sound like a hardcore conspiracy theorist. :confused:

Either way, The Dark Knight was one of the best movies I've ever seen if you can get past the hokey first 45 minutes.

[seeker1111]

I am interested mainly for the possible clues to the bigger picture that their stories might provide. Otherwise...I could care less.

[mcthompson2x]

There was a point in time when I wanted to pursue a career in Hollywood, now I'm glad I never got very far in that direction. I wouldn't want to be involved with any of these people, it seems like the bigger you get, the more corrupt you are forced to become. How many are complicit in murder cover-ups? I guarantee you that some of these big names who were so effected by Ledger's death - like John Travolta, who "barely knew him" - know a lot more about this than we ever will. I wonder if Hollywood is thoroughly Satanic at the top levels.

[mcthompson2x]

I just realized that I'm thinking inside the box when I think there has to be some sort of cultural or influential agenda involved in murdering Heath Ledger in order to blow Batman up. Anyone who stood to make a large sum of money could have had him killed and covered it up with little to no trouble. He could have been killed merely to make Batman one of the highest-grossing films ever. It's not off the wall at all to think of what some people will do for any large sum of money.

[mountain]

Wow! I have always been a li'l intrigued by Christian. I watched the commentary of American Psycho and found out that he would act out his character Richard Bateman even while on the set.

He would always speak in his American accent until after the completion of the movie.

Strange.

Many who work with him find it surprising that he is Welsh. He tends to totally absorb the roles of his characters.

[amethyst]

There was a point in time when I wanted to pursue a career in Hollywood, now I'm glad I never got very far in that direction. I wouldn't want to be involved with any of these people, it seems like the bigger you get, the more corrupt you are forced to become. How many are complicit in murder cover-ups? I guarantee you that some of these big names who were so effected by Ledger's death - like John Travolta, who "barely knew him" - know a lot more about this than we ever will. I wonder if Hollywood is thoroughly Satanic at the top levels.

Yes, I know what you mean about the "industry"and other forms of entertainment media. I've seen quite a few corrupted individuals in it myself

I wonder if Hollywood is thoroughly Satanic at the top levels
I'm inclined to think so.

Quite possibly, Christian could be one of the "victims".

[seeker1111]

I just realized that I'm thinking inside the box when I think there has to be some sort of cultural or influential agenda involved in murdering Heath Ledger in order to blow Batman up. Anyone who stood to make a large sum of money could have had him killed and covered it up with little to no trouble. He could have been killed merely to make Batman one of the highest-grossing films ever. It's not off the wall at all to think of what some people will do for any large sum of money.

Here's a link you might find interesting. I also posted it my original post.
http://dedroidify.blogspot.com/2008/07/heath-ledger-syncfest-crows-ravens-bats.html

[mountain]

Hey could his uncanny ability to do accents so well and become his character have to do with mind control alters? I am just curious to know if someone else thought that.

[kallista]

Sounds like drug fuelled rage, mother and sister press charges. Hmm.

[seeker1111]

Hey could his uncanny ability to do accents so well and become his character have to do with mind control alters? I am just curious to know if someone else thought that.

I have also had this thought...not to take away from their talent if that's truly what it is, but some of the rolls these actors are able to take on and literally become numerous other characters is amazing.

From all my research about mind programming it's definitely a possibility.

[amethyst]

Hey could his uncanny ability to do accents so well and become his character have to do with mind control alters? I am just curious to know if someone else thought that.

I dunno, but he does an american accent very well and apparently he is originally from Wales.

He did start out very young in the movie industry if you read his bio in Wikipedia.

Whether that's completely accurate or not, who knows?

[alrick888]

Hey could his uncanny ability to do accents so well and become his character have to do with mind control alters? I am just curious to know if someone else thought that.

Yeah, I didn't want to use the word myself but he does have sort of a zombie-ish almost brainwashed look in that pic:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=672044

[steevo]

One of the members on here Amerigirl found these pics a while back.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/ripheathledger1.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/normal_20thmar03warprotest008.jpg

[real6]

There is more to this story. Wait a few days to a week.

[theone_andnine]

Didn't shelly duval go insane after doing the shining? And didn't jack nicholas tell heath to be careful about the role as the joker?

[mountain]

Mmmm....I do not know if I am obsessed with these things but I thought about him alot while researching mind-control topics.


(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg-6ph8PuaE)

[seeker1111]

If an almighty 'celebrity™' does something... it takes precedence of killings/deaths etc. :-/

These are the people who will tell you to wear Two Jumpers™ (sweaters), whilst you watch them on the television, over the winter months...

Jesus Christ!

Awake: "Someone got stabbed to death today, it's terrible!"
Asleep: "Shhhhh.... I'm trying to read this article about Britney Spears farting yesterday!!"

Just an observation...

What you say has merit, however I think there is more to this whole celebrity business than meets the eye. And they are human as well and may be pawns in the whole game too, which would be sad. I feel sympathy and compassion for celebrities AND my neighbors alike.

Awake # 1: "Someone got stabbed to death today, it's terrible!"
Awake # 2: "Someone got stabbed to death today, it's terrible! There's definitely more to this than meets the eye, I'm going to dig.
Asleep #1: "Britney Spears went to a Psyche Ward today for the umpteenth time"
Awake # 2: "Britney Spears went to a Psyche Ward today for the umpteenth time AND wrote all over here forehead 666 and shaved her head. There's definitely more to this than meets the eye, I'm going to dig."

[emerald]

Come on, its all fuckin' staged: DARK KNIGHT in top and BALE gets arrested for supposedly violent behavior towards his own family. It stinks from a distance. Though not relevant (now) but lets not forget he had the main role in that masterpiece called EQUILIBRIUM...

[mountain]

Look at these two interviews...

Here he contains an American accent while interviewing.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

...and here as himself.

Christian Bale explains.. - YouTube

[steevo]

You make a very good point, but not everyone's as smart as you appear to be. Most people just worship such people in this day and age. I don't feel sorry for them (the change agents, aka 'celebs™'), a lot of them are from intergenerational bloodlines- and have thus always enjoyed privilege.

Anyway, thanks for the considered response, free of reactionary vitriol. :)

Some of them are victims, and I truly feel sorry for those whom are (mainly females it seems)...

I would say that there are very few people on this forum who worship celebrities.

[seeker1111]

You make a very good point, but not everyone's as smart as you appear to be. Most people just worship such people in this day and age. I don't feel sorry for them (the change agents, aka 'celebs™'), a lot of them are from intergenerational bloodlines- and have thus always enjoyed privilege.

Anyway, thanks for the considered response, free of reactionary vitriol. :)

Some of them are victims, and I truly feel sorry for those whom are (mainly females it seems)...

Yes, I definitely agree. Most people have no thought further than what they see in US or on ET. That is all the information many care to know...as long as they know what the celeb is wearing, eating, listening to, fucking, they're happy that their little fantasy world continues to be just that.

[emanuel]

I think way too much is being read into this at this stage, control your desire to uncover the 'truth' because it can waste an aweful lot of precious time!
Please understand I said control, not abandon, your desire!

Have any of you heard of method acting? It is not that uncommon for an actor to fully emmerse themselves into a role to the point it starts to have a detrimental effect on their personal lives. Combine that with the reality that they are not all robots and aliens, they are people who are not untouchable or invincible and fully capable of making the same mistakes as us.

I think Heath burnt himself out and got carried away with the solution. As for Christian, well, an environmentalist and martial artist assaulting their mother and sister????? Speaking as a martial artist, I think there would be way more to it than what a headline suggests. And saying that I learnt many many years ago to take newspaper headlines with a little more than a pinch of salt!!!

To question everything is good. To try and turn everything into a conspiracy is not because you can unwittingly disconnect yourself from that which you are trying to understand (reality).

I aint having a dig, I'm just saying......

[seeker1111]

I would say that there are very few people on this forum who worship celebrities.

I definitely agree. Most of the people I know who do worship celebrities would never have even heard of this forum.

I think us taking the time to discuss any of these relevant topics is indication enough that we are beyond that celebrity worship stage.

[seeker1111]

I think way too much is being read into this at this stage, control your desire to uncover the 'truth' because it can waste an aweful lot of precious time!
Please understand I said control, not abandon, your desire!

Have any of you heard of method acting? It is not that uncommon for an actor to fully emmerse themselves into a role to the point it starts to have a detrimental effect on their personal lives. Combine that with the reality that they are not all robots and aliens, they are people who are not untouchable or invincible and fully capable of making the same mistakes as us.

I think Heath burnt himself out and got carried away with the solution. As for Christian, well, an environmentalist and martial artist assaulting their mother and sister????? Speaking as a martial artist, I think there would be way more to it than what a headline suggests. And saying that I learnt many many years ago to take newspaper headlines with a little more than a pinch of salt!!!

To question everything is good. To try and turn everything into a conspiracy is not because you can unwittingly disconnect yourself from that which you are trying to understand (reality).

I aint having a dig, I'm just saying......

Besides living in the moment, helping other people and taking care of myself there's honestly nothing else I'd rather be doing with my time. Trying to uncover the truth (if there is any) for me personally is not a waste of time.

And I don't think anyone was saying that actors are for sure alters...just putting the possibility out there.

I don't think there's a problem with one reading too much into things, for really, where does one draw the line? Should we ever draw the line? The universe is full of infinite possibilities. Not to say that there's something behind everything...but then again, isn't there?

Of course we should be careful of obsession about anything...but your perspective on obsession and joe blow's down the street may be two entirely different things!

People who have been obsessed with things have made huge discoveries because of that obsession...some have died...others have not and we call that success.

Just saying...:)

[mountain]

I definitely agree. Most of the people I know who do worship celebrities would never have even heard of this forum.

I think us taking the time to discuss any of these relevant topics is indication enough that we are beyond that celebrity worship stage.

Yes I certainly think when we concentrate on celebrities as truthseekers, it is quite the contrary. I am deeply concerned that these are symptoms of mind control programming going haywire.

In the midst of my fascination of Christian Bale I often find myself observing him and others and its not at all very surprising to me to hear about them 'kirking' out, as we say here in the States.

Why would he assault his mum and sis, of all people?! That is the question.

[real6]

One of the members on here Amerigirl found these pics a while back.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/ripheathledger1.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/normal_20thmar03warprotest008.jpg


Can anyone help me out. When Heath Ledger died, someone on here started a post about it. But someone found pics of his last movie with Terry Gillium he was filming. But in it he was hanging by a nosse joking around with weird symbols on his forhead. Anyone know how to find this post on here. Im not looking thru over 100's posts!!!

[lightworks]

Normally I don't care about celebrity gossip but this is just interesting and I suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye. With Heath Ledger having died under such mysterious circmstances now Christian Bale 'supposedly' assaults his mother and sister? Strange...

***addition*** Because we got to talking about Heath in this post I thought I'd add this interesting link. http://dedroidify.blogspot.com/2008/07/heath-ledger-syncfest-crows-ravens-bats.html


http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=672044

he's a multiple
and some of his alters
are imbalanced
many or ALL
of these
so called "hollywood stars"
are horrendously sexually abused multiples
dont worry
his handler will sort him out

[seeker1111]

Can anyone help me out. When Heath Ledger died, someone on here started a post about it. But someone found pics of his last movie with Terry Gillium he was filming. But in it he was hanging by a nosse joking around with weird symbols on his forhead. Anyone know how to find this post on here. Im not looking thru over 100's posts!!!

please see the link in my original post of this thread...i think you will find the picture you are looking for. It's the addition...

[seeker1111]

In fact I'll be nice and post it for ya here :D

http://www.dedroidify.com/blogimages/heath/b9jats.jpg

[steevo]

In fact I'll be nice and post it for ya here :D

http://www.dedroidify.com/blogimages/heath/b9jats.jpg

What is that picture from ? Is it a scene from a movie ?

[emanuel]

Besides living in the moment, helping other people and taking care of myself there's honestly nothing else I'd rather be doing with my time. Trying to uncover the truth (if there is any) for me personally is not a waste of time.

And I don't think anyone was saying that actors are for sure alters...just putting the possibility out there.

I don't think there's a problem with one reading too much into things, for really, where does one draw the line? Should we ever draw the line? The universe is full of infinite possibilities. Not to say that there's something behind everything...but then again, isn't there?

Of course we should be careful of obsession about anything...but your perspective on obsession and joe blow's down the street may be two entirely different things!

People who have been obsessed with things have made huge discoveries because of that obsession...some have died...others have not and we call that success.

Just saying...:)

Didn't understand my post then......? ;)

Just offering perspective. No need to defend yourself, I wasn't attacking! :)

[seeker1111]

:DDidn't understand my post then......? ;)

Just offering perspective. No need to defend yourself, I wasn't attacking! :)


No, I totally understood your post! I wasn't defending or attacking just giving you my perspective. Don't worry no drama here. ;)

[emanuel]

:D


No, I totally understood your post! I wasn't defending or attacking just giving you my perspective. Don't worry no drama here. ;)

Sorry :o your reply told me you didn't get what I was saying.
By your logic you could say that the development of conspiracy theorists can, in itself, be a conspiracy?! (not taking the micky ;)) therefore offering the notion that some reasearch can be a waste of time?? :D

[seeker1111]

Sorry :o your reply told me you didn't get what I was saying.
By your logic you could say that the development of conspiracy theorists can, in itself, be a conspiracy?! (not taking the micky ;)) therefore offering the notion that some reasearch can be a waste of time?? :D

and again it all comes down to perspective. ;) a waste of time to you might not be a waste of time to me :)

[lightworks]

what I would like you all to understand
is that every single
or if not evry single
many
hollywood "actors"
they are all
multiples
as in
mind controlled victims
of trauma based mindcontrol
and why they are so great at acting
is because they are simply expressing
an alter
triggered
by an unseen handler i.e manager
who usually has take part in horrendous sexual abuse
of them as children
if they are one of the lucky ones
as in one of the thousands of child sexual slaves
in operation today
then they would have escaped termination
at puberty
which is the age
when thier pervert clients
lose interest
and instead
they would have been reprogrammed
via heavy mind altering psycotropic drugs as well
i'e "river phoenix"
to continuosly replay
specially programmed roles
which get
the public
as in you me and all the other
potential takers
to accept
the ushering in
the bit by bit ushering in
of the new world order
no one is allowed to become famous unless
they strictly adhere to this
mind control via media program
to name but a few
TOM CRUISE{mission impossible}
MORGAN FREEMAN {wanted.under suspicion}
MATT DAMON {BOURNE SUPREMACY,BOURNE IDENTITY,BOURNE SUPREMACY}
SO ill stop here but these mopvies repeat and trherbey implement the same story again and again and agin of the JACKALS or CIA HITMEN/WOMEN and CHILD SEX SLAVE DEALERS
its when you read between the transparent lines that the awakening instantanesously happens....

[w1nstonsm1th84]

what I would like you all to understand
is that every single
or if not evry single
many
hollywood "actors"
they are all
multiples
as in
mind controlled victims
of trauma based mindcontrol
and why they are so great at acting
is because they artesimple expressing
an alter
triggered
by an unseen handler i.e manager
who usually has take part in sexual abuse
of then as children+


Not all, many are of 'elite' dynasties... no need to feel sorry for that lot...

[emanuel]

and again it all comes down to perspective. ;) a waste of time to you might not be a waste of time to me :)

You're absolutly right, but I wasn't talking about a difference in perpsective. I said I was offering perspective, not 'my' perspective. I'm not saying this thread is a waste of time, it could well be significant but to take a headline and let your (not you personally) imagination run away with it to create a conspiracy instead of using hard research and facts (facts you are not likely to be privy to) can take you in the wrong direction and thus be a waste of time in terms of the big picture and more importantly what needs to be done about it. All these new additions to the global conspiracy are hardly cornerstones or even relevent. The world would have gone completely tits up by the time we uncover absolutly every aspect of the global conspiracy! Too little too late because all we did was talk about it!

Sounds like a proper rant doesn't it! but that is not what I am expressing, sat here at my desk ;) No ill will from me, I love everyone. The world needs to engage in a group hug :D

[seeker1111]

You're absolutly right, but I wasn't talking about a difference in perpsective. I said I was offering perspective, not 'my' perspective. I'm not saying this thread is a waste of time, it could well be significant but to take a headline and let your (not you personally) imagination run away with it to create a conspiracy instead of using hard research and facts (facts you are not likely to be privy to) can take you in the wrong direction and thus be a waste of time in terms of the big picture and more importantly what needs to be done about it. All these new additions to the global conspiracy are hardly cornerstones or even relevent. The world would have gone completely tits up by the time we uncover absolutly every aspect of the global conspiracy! Too little too late because all we did was talk about it!

Sounds like a proper rant doesn't it! but that is not what I am expressing, sat here at my desk ;) No ill will from me, I love everyone. The world needs to engage in a group hug :D


I agree, there's not possible way we'll find everything out in this lifetime...my brain hurts just doing this sometimes!

I also don't intend to sit on my ass all day on this forum and not 'live'. In fact, by the time I get off work and go home I rarely spend much time on here at all! :eek::D

Group hug, now theres a good idea. Have you heard about the fellow who went around the world hugging random people? Now there's someone I'd love to meet...

[cheeb]

he's a multiple
and some of his alters
are imbalanced
many or ALL
of these
so called "hollywood stars"
are horrendously sexually abused multiples
dont worry
his handler will sort him out

Anne Nicole Smith...

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/128/annanicolesmithclownsk8.jpg

This Is Fairly Disturbing...

Anna Nicole Wacked Out Of Her Mind In Clown Makeup! - YouTube

Brought to Rivera's show by the father of a nine-year-old girl present for the entire shoot, the girl describes having seen Howard K. Stern give Smith something from "a white bottle with red stripes."

Howard K. Stern-Her Handler...

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7655/iranflagsw9.gif

the clown make up on Anna's face is the flag of Iran. Could it be more ritual? Hmmm. You do remember the meaning of Shock and Awe (shekinah), right?
The story moves into surreality with Britney checking into the Promises Clinic and scrawling 666 on her forehead, screaming that she is the anti-christ, and then, trying to hang herself.

This Is A Longer Less Edited Version Of The Tape:

http://www.defamer.com.au/2007/10/anna_nicole_smith_clown_video_.html

The Joker..

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5735/joker460li0.jpg

Deranged Terrorist...

The tape showed Anna Nicole in a toga with clown makeup scrawled bizarrely across her face.
In the words of BJ Berstein, legal analyst, Anna had a "very child-like, haunting voice."
Stern says, "Anna, Anna listen to me."
"Riley thinks you’ve absolutely lost your mind.”
"Huh?" Anna replies.
“Riley thinks you’ve lost your mind.”
“I didn’t lose my mind.”
“She thinks you have.”
“I didn’t.”
"Is this a mushroom trip?" Stern asks.
"What do you mean?" Anna asks like a 4 year old girl.
"I'm kidding."
"What does that mean?"
"I'm kidding."
The scene then cuts to a closer shot of Anna looking like a member of the Insane Clown Posse and
Stern says, "This footage is worth money."
To which the child-like voice replies, "Why? What feetage?"
"This thing you're looking into."
"That's a camera."
"Exactly."
Analyst Bernstein says Anna is "clearly intoxicated". Was she? The autopsy shows no sign of drug abuse and no drugs in her stomach after death. This is a clear case of mind-control,

Triple Reinforcement From The Handler..!!!!

The Dark Night..!!!

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8104/drakknightposter42408qr0.jpg

Reinforcing Terrorist Attacks,
Of 2001...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6796/wtcnorthtoweref7.jpg


Could it be that what we are witnessing in our top pop stars recently is the result of trauma-based mind-control? Have the Monarch mind-controlled slaves gone wild? Anna Nicole mysteriously dies, Britney shamelessly shaves herself bald, Astronaut Lisa Nowak sets off on a mission of doom in diapers; what is going on!?
There is a program so grim, its aspects are difficult to talk about. I am referring to Satanic Ritual Abuse. It is widespread and goes to the upper echelons of the world's rulers. Most Americans won't believe that mind control is going on in the "homeland." Well, it is. Many of the rituals and methods employed in the mind control projects are inspired by the ancient mystery schools; blood and sex rituals to the god and goddess. From ancient Babylon to Nazi Germany and on into America, trauma-based mind control has been the modus operandi of the Illuminati.

We Are All Being Predictave/Regressive Programmed,
By This Media Manipulation Of Events....

"Is this a mushroom trip?"

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4856/mushroomcloudhblb1.jpg

There Is Some Similar Stuff Here

http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/2007/02/httpwww2bloggercomimggllinkgifanna.html

:eek:

[emanuel]

I agree, there's not possible way we'll find everything out in this lifetime...my brain hurts just doing this sometimes!

I also don't intend to sit on my ass all day on this forum and not 'live'. In fact, by the time I get off work and go home I rarely spend much time on here at all! :eek::D

Group hug, now theres a good idea. Have you heard about the fellow who went around the world hugging random people? Now there's someone I'd love to meet...

I think there is a point you have to stop and look at what you are trying to achieve I think. I would say 99% of people who have 'woken up' did so of their own accord not on David Icke's say so or any other researcher for that matter. We all had a moment when we stood on our doorstep (metaphorically speaking), looked out at the world and said to ourselves 'this is fucking bullshit'! Icke offered up some info to support what we already knew but how much more info do any one of us need???

In my opinion and my experience the 'info' is not enough to wake someone, it is a very personal journey where you bring yourself to your doorstep, look out at the world...and so on! You can lead a horse to water, as the saying goes...

This is all coming to a head now and if you make it out to the other side you will meet masses of people who will be dishing out massive hugs because the only way we will make it is if we start caring, I mean really caring, for eachother so we can start to truely understand and connect with what it is to be a complete human being and I believe that state of being offers more power to us than we think!

I bet that guy made the day of everyone he hugged, imagine if we all did that. The energy surge within us and the earth itself would be immense :)

Here's hoping....;)

[seeker1111]

I think there is a point you have to stop and look at what you are trying to achieve I think. I would say 99% of people who have 'woken up' did so of their own accord not on David Icke's say so or any other researcher for that matter. We all had a moment when we stood on our doorstep (metaphorically speaking), looked out at the world and said to ourselves 'this is fucking bullshit'! Icke offered up some info to support what we already knew but how much more info do any one of us need???

In my opinion and my experience the 'info' is not enough to wake someone, it is a very personal journey where you bring yourself to your doorstep, look out at the world...and so on! You can lead a horse to water, as the saying goes...

This is all coming to a head now and if you make it out to the other side you will meet masses of people who will be dishing out massive hugs because the only way we will make it is if we start caring, I mean really caring, for eachother so we can start to truely understand and connect with what it is to be a complete human being and I believe that state of being offers more power to us than we think!

I bet that guy made the day of everyone he hugged, imagine if we all did that. The energy surge within us and the earth itself would be immense :)

Here's hoping....;)


Couldn't agree more! :)

[amethyst]

I would say that there are very few people on this forum who worship celebrities.

I agree steevo-I think we can give the fellow forumites a bit more credit right? ;)

Wow,

this thread is still going strong!

Was thinking about this while out.....what is presented to the general public is very different than what goes on in these actors and celebrities personal lives...and if we really knew personally just what goes on, we would have pity on on them, rather than judgement.

The system is set up for us (the general public) to hate them, envy them, mock them, but really, they are just pawns in a greater, extremely corrupt system.

If so many are under mind control (from a very young age it starts) they have apparrently gone thru some HORRENDOUS torture to become the icons and noted actors that they are set up, planned to be.

Perhaps quite a few of them are waking up to the reality to what has been done to them and thru them. And perhaps this is the case with Christian.

Regardless, I still pray for them, foolish as that might seem to some.

[americana]

Well, I saw The Dark Knight yesterday, and I thought that Christian Bale looked very thin. His eyes were "hollow", like when someone looses so much weight their eyes sink in. His face looked strange, and I wondered if he had plastic surgery. It's hard to emote behind a mask.


As for Bale's role as Batman, well, yes it is a "split personality" of sorts, in that he talks with two voices. But that's it. He's pretty much dry as dust.

As for hints of control, in one scene, he is perched on top of a building with lots of "antennas" or poles, which I suppose might be for wireless or mind control? (Anyone else seen the movie and can comment?)

Heath Ledger's performance is so out there, so fearless (that thing he does with his tongue, the smacking of his lips and mouth is so gross, so disturbing, yet so RIGHT) that every other actor in it looks like they are just "being themselves" in comparison. Sure, Aaron Eckhardt is a hunk, but I swear, they can never do another Batman movie. This is IT. If they do another, it will be a farce and an insult to the memory of Heath Ledger.

I first remember Christian Bale in Empire of the Sun. However, I see that his first role was as the young Tsarevich Alexei in Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna. Hemophilia; blood; bloodlines. Interesting!

[seeker1111]

I agree steevo-I think we can give the fellow forumites a bit more credit right? ;)

Wow,

this thread is still going strong!

Was thinking about this while out.....what is presented to the general public is very different than what goes on in these actors and celebrities personal lives...and if we really knew personally just what goes on, we would have pity on on them, rather than judgement.

The system is set up for us (the general public) to hate them, envy them, mock them, but really, they are just pawns in a greater, extremely corrupt system.

If so many are under mind control (from a very young age it starts) they have apparrently gone thru some HORRENDOUS torture to become the icons and noted actors that they are set up, planned to be.

Perhaps quite a few of them are waking up to the reality to what has been done to them and thru them. And perhaps this is the case with Christian.

Regardless, I still pray for them, foolish as that might seem to some.

Yeah...I was reading up on Marylin Monroe's personal life (what little information there is)...certainly no glamour there.

I would imagine they might recieve the worst big brother treatment of us all...constantly watched, followed, and who knows what else.

The truth is, we really have no idea what goes on in their personal lives. I for one will not formulate a solid opinion until we have all of the facts (which we may never have)

[steevo]

Well, I saw The Dark Knight yesterday, and I thought that Christian Bale looked very thin. His eyes were "hollow", like when someone looses so much weight their eyes sink in. His face looked strange, and I wondered if he had plastic surgery. It's hard to emote behind a mask.


As for Bale's role as Batman, well, yes it is a "split personality" of sorts, in that he talks with two voices. But that's it. He's pretty much dry as dust.

As for hints of control, in one scene, he is perched on top of a building with lots of "antennas" or poles, which I suppose might be for wireless or mind control? (Anyone else seen the movie and can comment?)

Heath Ledger's performance is so out there, so fearless (that thing he does with his tongue, the smacking of his lips and mouth is so gross, so disturbing, yet so RIGHT) that every other actor in it looks like they are just "being themselves" in comparison. Sure, Aaron Eckhardt is a hunk, but I swear, they can never do another Batman movie. This is IT. If they do another, it will be a farce and an insult to the memory of Heath Ledger.

I first remember Christian Bale in Empire of the Sun. However, I see that his first role was as the young Tsarevich Alexei in Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna. Hemophilia; blood; bloodlines. Interesting!

Thanks for your partial review of the movie Americana, interesting stuff. I'm gonna go see the movie soon all being well. I still havent watched Batman Begins yet which I bought ages ago now. So maybe I should watch that first. We were gonna watch it tonight but been busy on here :o

[amethyst]

Here's an article I just found:

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b147406_christian_bailed_over_alleged_assault.html

Christian Bailed Over Alleged Assault; Denies Wrongdoing
Today 12:44 PM PDT by Gina Serpe


Mike Marsland/WireImage.com
"
Batman is once again flying free. Which should make the rest of his press tour rather interesting.

Christian Bale has been released on bail after spending more than four hours in police custody at a central London station being interrogated over allegations he assaulted his 61-year-old mom, Jenny, and 40-year-old sister, Sharon, Sunday night.

"Mr. Bale, who denies the allegation, cooperated throughout, gave his account
in full of the events in question, and has left the station without any charge being made against him by the police," the actor's lawyers at the high-powered London firm Schillings said in a statement.

"At this time, there will be no further comment by Mr. Bale."

He is due to return to the police station in September, pending further inquiries. Under British law, "police bail" does not require payment of a bond amount but simply a promise to return at the unspecified date.

He did, however, pay "modest" conditional fees.

The Dark Knight star was arrested earlier this morning after voluntarily turning up by appointment.

No details have yet been released over what allegedly transpired between the 34-year-old cinematic Caped Crusader and his female relations, but the incident purportedly took place in his room at London's posh Dorchester Hotel. Both women filed a report against the star Monday morning at their local police station.

The investigation was subsequently turned over to Scotland Yard. Authorities allowed Bale to attend Monday night's European premiere of the blockbuster before asking him to come in.

While neither woman has issued a formal statement on the incident, Bale's sister Sharon shouted "it's a family matter" out of a window at her home in Dorset to the swarm of reporters gathered at the Corfe Mullen house.

An unidentified man who answered the door of Bale's mother's Bournemouth home said she would not be commenting on the matter.

As for Bale, he was originally scheduled to participate in a round of radio interviews this afternoon, but his quality time with London's finest temporarily hindered his promotional capabilities.

It's unclear when or if those interviews will now take place—not that The Dark Knight is having trouble getting the word out on its release.

The film blew away all North American box-office records over the weekend, raking in $155.3 million its first three days out.

However, one of the actor's attorneys, Simon Smith, tells E! News that it was back to red carpet business as usual for the star, who is expected to make his next major appearance at the film's Spain premiere.

"I believe he is headed to Barcelona this evening," Smith said.

Meanwhile, Bale is still on schedule to continue work on his current project, Terminator Salvation, in New Mexico later this week, once promotional duties for The Dark Knight have wrapped.

—Additional reporting by Matt Donnelly

(Originally published July 22, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. PT.)

* Apparently I read he got really thin due to another movie role he was in........he lost several pounds for the other role.

[steevo]

Just imagine if The Batman (Christian Bale) spoke out and said that Heath Ledger was murdered or if he said that the Iraq war was wrong. It would have a massive impact I think because the sheeple would listen to him. The "powers that be" would have to either silence him or discredit him massively. And to alledgedly assault you mother and sister is pretty much enough to discredit ANYONE.

[seeker1111]

Just imagine if The Batman (Christian Bale) spoke out and said that Heath Ledger was murdered or if he said that the Iraq war was wrong. It would have a massive impact I think because the sheeple would listen to him. The "powers that be" would have to either silence him or discredit him massively. And to alledgedly assault you mother and sister is pretty much enough to discredit ANYONE.

yeah...kinda like the astronaut driving around in her diaper...i wonder what she could have had to say

[cleft_asunder]

I'm not sure where there is enough information for anyone to make an assumption either way. I'm not sure what sort of threat Batman poses to anyone in particular though, so I doubt Heath Ledger's death had anything to do with the film, much less Bale's arrest this morning. I could be wrong but I really just can't see the connection at all... If there was ever an argument for a coincidence I'd use it here.

I can't see it either.

[cleft_asunder]

I like Christian Bale too. I think he is a good actor and I like his look.

So in other words, you think he's sexy and wouldn't mind being in bed with him. (it's all good, I'm just sayin.) Hell even I think he's sexy and wouldn't mind being in bed with him, and I'm not gay!

[seeker1111]

I can't see it either.
Even after you read the link I provided with all the weird synchronocities?

[seeker1111]

So in other words, you think he's sexy and wouldn't mind being in bed with him. (it's all good, I'm just sayin.) Hell even I think he's sexy and wouldn't mind being in bed with him, and I'm not gay!

:D

actually he never really did it for me...:eek: *runs and hides*

[amerigirl]

He is cute. But wiki doesn't have a very apleasing pic of him on his biography page. Hmm...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/220px-Christianbale.jpg

[madthumbs]

Probably on SSRI's (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1394).

[emanuel]

You could draw pretty much any conclusion from what little info we have to play with! He could of gotten sick of his chav (for all you americans, redneck) mum and sister rinsing money out of him for security and telling him he is the failure while in another drunken stupor and *BANG* 'get down you old hag' he probably remarked! Then big sis, who always bullied him and made him wear her clothes as a child, jumps up shouting 'you're nothing but a wendy boy'! And the hidden rage from the childhood bullying launches into her with a flying headbutt *SMACK* 'ave it' he exclaims.

Or.....

.....like his sister said "it's a family matter". Well as a family they may like playing slappsies and the thrill of being held by the authorities, like those millionaires who shoplift because they like the thrill of stealing!!!

Or.....

.....the Mum and Sister are very sensitive people and their idea of assault is.....while they were adjusting their make up in the bathroom, christian came bursting into the hotel room, sweating, screaming 'I need a shit' and yanked his ever so soft mum and sis out of the bathroom to allow the curry he had earlier right of way! Of course to just lay your hand on someone is assault and mummy didn't appreciate being yanked and her maskara going up the side of her forehead.....

Or......

.......he is an agent of the human/alien hybrids hell bent on global domination and his mum found this out and was disgusted so *CRACK* he silenced her!

Now looking at the above you couldn't say one senario is nuttier than the other really and you have no additional info to prove or disprove either. Mind you, it could be a combo of all three! Now that would be interesting to see how THAT played out :D

Just having fun guy's and gals ;)

[lightworks]

Anne Nicole Smith...

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/128/annanicolesmithclownsk8.jpg

This Is Fairly Disturbing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DULYGi6dnvw

Brought to Rivera's show by the father of a nine-year-old girl present for the entire shoot, the girl describes having seen Howard K. Stern give Smith something from "a white bottle with red stripes."

Howard K. Stern-Her Handler...

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7655/iranflagsw9.gif

the clown make up on Anna's face is the flag of Iran. Could it be more ritual? Hmmm. You do remember the meaning of Shock and Awe (shekinah), right?
The story moves into surreality with Britney checking into the Promises Clinic and scrawling 666 on her forehead, screaming that she is the anti-christ, and then, trying to hang herself.

This Is A Longer Less Edited Version Of The Tape:

http://www.defamer.com.au/2007/10/anna_nicole_smith_clown_video_.html

The Joker..

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5735/joker460li0.jpg

Deranged Terrorist...

The tape showed Anna Nicole in a toga with clown makeup scrawled bizarrely across her face.
In the words of BJ Berstein, legal analyst, Anna had a "very child-like, haunting voice."
Stern says, "Anna, Anna listen to me."
"Riley thinks you’ve absolutely lost your mind.”
"Huh?" Anna replies.
“Riley thinks you’ve lost your mind.”
“I didn’t lose my mind.”
“She thinks you have.”
“I didn’t.”
"Is this a mushroom trip?" Stern asks.
"What do you mean?" Anna asks like a 4 year old girl.
"I'm kidding."
"What does that mean?"
"I'm kidding."
The scene then cuts to a closer shot of Anna looking like a member of the Insane Clown Posse and
Stern says, "This footage is worth money."
To which the child-like voice replies, "Why? What feetage?"
"This thing you're looking into."
"That's a camera."
"Exactly."
Analyst Bernstein says Anna is "clearly intoxicated". Was she? The autopsy shows no sign of drug abuse and no drugs in her stomach after death. This is a clear case of mind-control,

Triple Reinforcement From The Handler..!!!!

The Dark Night..!!!

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8104/drakknightposter42408qr0.jpg

Reinforcing Terrorist Attacks,
Of 2001...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6796/wtcnorthtoweref7.jpg


Could it be that what we are witnessing in our top pop stars recently is the result of trauma-based mind-control? Have the Monarch mind-controlled slaves gone wild? Anna Nicole mysteriously dies, Britney shamelessly shaves herself bald, Astronaut Lisa Nowak sets off on a mission of doom in diapers; what is going on!?
There is a program so grim, its aspects are difficult to talk about. I am referring to Satanic Ritual Abuse. It is widespread and goes to the upper echelons of the world's rulers. Most Americans won't believe that mind control is going on in the "homeland." Well, it is. Many of the rituals and methods employed in the mind control projects are inspired by the ancient mystery schools; blood and sex rituals to the god and goddess. From ancient Babylon to Nazi Germany and on into America, trauma-based mind control has been the modus operandi of the Illuminati.

We Are All Being Predictave/Regressive Programmed,
By This Media Manipulation Of Events....

"Is this a mushroom trip?"

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4856/mushroomcloudhblb1.jpg

There Is Some Similar Stuff Here

http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/2007/02/httpwww2bloggercomimggllinkgifanna.html

:eek:

th
Thankyou iyou go to show that you have woken up like me....
is it not hard work going around these illuminati moles here...deliberataly discussing non sensensical babble....aware of how the collective conciousness operates as one unit...all they need do..is to continue to plant these subconciuos viruses on this forum
TO CONVINCE YOU ALL ITS NOT WORTH IT
TO CONVINCE YOU ALL YOU WILL NEVER EVER GET FREE
TO CONVINCE YOU ALL TO GIVE UP AND TAKE DRUGS
AND HAVE MEANINGLESS AND UNFULFILLING SEXUAL RELATIONS
please wake up people
because
these multiples
are just programmed
to fulfill roles
defiled
and designed
at MKULTRA
and once they've used these multiples
to reimplement the characters needed
to reinforce the drug addict program
they bump them off
otherwise what would heroin and crack addicts have to relate to
as a peer group?
the same hand that allows vast amounts of crack cocaine
meth amphetamines,cocaine and heroin
into the various airports,seaports etc
around the globe
is the same hand
that controls the media
is the same hand that controls
the music industry
many of whose so called "stars"
are addicted to crack cocaine,heroin,cocaine
uppers downers
you name it they do it
and many of these "stars"
come from more than questionable
family backgrounds
and have less than what would be called
normal
psycological parameters
lets take a look at the latest or past british media Psyops
of the story of
Amy winehouse
and the frontman of baby shambles Pete doherty
or kate moss
or sid vicous
or kerry cantona
so on the one hand you have the evil and hypocritical arm the fascist british goverment known as the BBC or ITV or CHANNEL 4
churning out
the specific
subliminal message
that "TAKE DRUGS ITS COOL BECAUSE HE SHE THEY DOES IT"
and then on the other hand you get the same government propganda machine
saying "THE COMMISSIONER OF THE METROPOLITAN POLICE AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ASSOCIATION OF BRITISH PAEDOPHILES"
{WHO likes to have his finger an penis securely placeD up little boys bottoms by the way}
"HAS DECLARED A WAR ON DRUG DEALERS "
so all the time "big brother" is programming the mass multiples to be multiples and not to have any firm moral standing or enrgy or strentgh to think reason or do anything independently of state and bullshit rules and laws........ thats why stars who take drugs are portyrayed as being cool....just to split your personality...to fragment your conciousness ...and to get you to directly give all of your soul and mind power away discussing meaningless fucking bullshit...instead of addressing the real issues of why we are here as soul....such as getting rid of the reptilieans by collectively claming back our power and ascending into higher vibrations.....

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[emanuel]

Hey Lightworks :)

To whom or what on this forum do you refer to when you say 'moles'/'virus'??

[tinmenace]

Yeah, the symbolism cannot be ignored. CHRISTIAN - The Dark Knight
Hmm.... http://vb.spiritual-nature.com/images/smilies/icon_scratchchin.gif

Deceased Heath Ledger - A Joker?

It's all very interesting.

[tinmenace]

Look at these two interviews...

Here he contains an American accent while interviewing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg-6ph8PuaE

...and here as himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptcPqTo7U0Q&feature=related

Hmmm, yes....reminded me of when Britney lapsed into a British accent...


Britney Spears Lapses Into a British Accent

Britney Spears has a new accessory to go with her pink wig: a British accent.

In the last several weeks, Spears, 26, has been videotaped numerous times trading her Louisiana twang for U.K. inflections.

"She had the English accent thing going the whole time" while shopping at Kitson last Thursday, according to a source. "It didn't stop."

Even when angry, the accent appears. On an L.A. shopping trip to Macy's on Jan. 13, she screamed at the paparazzi, "Get out of my G------ face!" – in a British accent.

So is it all in fun or has she flipped her pink wig?

"When someone has dissociative identity disorder" – formerly known as multiple personality disorder – "each identity is split off from the other," says L.A. psychologist Renee A. Cohen, who is not treating Spears. "Each identity would have its own name, memories, behavioral traits and emotional characteristics."

Cohen says the critical question is: "When Britney uses the British accent, or appears to take on another identity, does she know she's Britney Spears?"

"Otherwise, she could simply be behaving this way for attention, for sympathy, or any other reason," adds Cohen. "It's foolish to attempt to diagnose her without a formal evaluation."

One possible influence could be Spears's maternal grandmother, Lilian Bridges, who was originally from England.

Also, Spears's new beau, photographer Adnan Ghalib, grew up in Birmingham, England.

According to paparazzi who trail the singer around the clock, one thing is for sure: the pink wig means something's changing.

"When she puts on the pink wig, you just know something crazy is about to happen," said one paparazzo.

SOURCE (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20172750,00.html)



We all know that Multiple Personality Disorder is often a result of extreme trauma, which splinters the person's personality into many. Each one compartimentalized and unaware of the others.

[bobthegoon]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]* Apparently I read he got really thin due to another movie role he was in........he lost several pounds for the other role.


That moive was 'The Machinist'. And he lost more than a few pounds.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/061017/155113__machinist_l.jpg

'Christian Bale starved himself for over 4 months prior to filming, as his character needed to look drastically thin. Allegedly his eating consisted of one cup of coffee and an apple each day (approximately 275 calories)[2]. According to the DVD commentary, he lost 62 pounds (28 kg), reducing his body weight to 120 pounds (54.4 kg). Bale wanted to go down to 100 pounds (45.3 kg) but the filmmakers would not let him due to health concerns.'

A description of part of the plot -

'Trevor is haunted by brief flashes of recurring imagery, and everyday objects take on a menacing air, like the car cigarette lighter he seems almost afraid to touch. A mysterious series of Post-it notes that appear on his refrigerator depict a game of hangman; these vaguely threatening incidents send Trevor further into paranoia. Another near-accident at work causes him to lash out in incoherent rage at his co-workers and as a result he is fired. Trevor is no longer able to think clearly, and begins to suspect that the bizarre events in his life are a concentrated effort to drive him insane. He nevertheless attempts to establish a tentative romantic relationship with Maria. Meeting her at an amusement park, Trevor accompanies her son Nicholas on a grotesque funhouse ride called "Route 666", that causes the boy to suffer an epileptic seizure.'

The end of the film reveals that Bales character was reponsible for a hit and run accident, implying that the repressed guilt for this had lead to his insominia and subsequent hallucinations.

I thought the film was awful by the way.........

[tinmenace]

Don't people exert a little too much energy buying into the 'celebrity™' merry-go-round?

If no-one paid attention to them...

(I'm not targeting anyone on an individual basis here)

It's all a distraction. You're quite right. It distracts people from their own realities, and also from what's happening in the east coast rat's nest called Washington DC (no offense to actual rodents).

[real6]

Lets get over it people. hahhaha

Here is a little light over what really happened, and it is so, so sad because instead of helping him trough this times his family makes it even worse for him by going to the police!

“Batman star Christian Bale allegedly assaulted his mother and sister after becoming depressed over strains in his marriage and the death of close friend Heath Ledger, it was claimed last night.”
”
“A source close to Bale said the incident comes at a time when his marriage to Sandra ‘Sibi’ Blazic, a former model and make-up artist, is enduring difficulties.”

“The source also claimed Bale had been deeply affected by the death from a drugs overdose of Ledger, who plays The Joker in the Batman film The Dark Knight.”

‘Christian’s attitude is that this was his mother’s fault because she became very provocative in an argument they were having,’ the source said. ‘Things got out of control and he says now he wishes he just left the room.

‘The thing that happened here was that normally Christian would just call a friend and go out to a pub to cool off. But he was literally trapped into this confrontation with his mother and sister because there was an army of fans and paparazzi outside.

‘He was feeling the stress, but he didn’t lay a finger on anyone. Instead, he flew off the handle and cussed his mother. He just got very loud because his mother was saying some very outrageous things about him, his wife and his child.’

The source added: ‘His marriage is not perfect, but his relationship with his mother is in much more trouble.”

Here is the whole read:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1037313/EXCLUSIVE-Arrested-Batman-star-flew-rage-mother-insulted-wife.html

[emanuel]

.....I'm waiting lightworks!!! Or were you refering to me and my previous post?? Because I was being lighthearted and pointing out that one could make up any story with what little info is currently available. :rolleyes:

If you were refering to me then you need to have a look a little further back at what I have written in the past before you go making silly snap judgements!

If you were not talking about me and my previous post then whoopsie, I jumped to the wrong conclusion :D

[seaweed]

Also interesting to note that Christian is a former child star whose step-mother Gloria Steinem is mentioned in this thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=420288&highlight=gloria+steinham#post420288

[dangermouse]

That moive was 'The Machinist'. And he lost more than a few pounds.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/061017/155113__machinist_l.jpg

'Christian Bale starved himself for over 4 months prior to filming, as his character needed to look drastically thin. Allegedly his eating consisted of one cup of coffee and an apple each day (approximately 275 calories)[2]. According to the DVD commentary, he lost 62 pounds (28 kg), reducing his body weight to 120 pounds (54.4 kg). Bale wanted to go down to 100 pounds (45.3 kg) but the filmmakers would not let him due to health concerns.'

A description of part of the plot -

'Trevor is haunted by brief flashes of recurring imagery, and everyday objects take on a menacing air, like the car cigarette lighter he seems almost afraid to touch. A mysterious series of Post-it notes that appear on his refrigerator depict a game of hangman; these vaguely threatening incidents send Trevor further into paranoia. Another near-accident at work causes him to lash out in incoherent rage at his co-workers and as a result he is fired. Trevor is no longer able to think clearly, and begins to suspect that the bizarre events in his life are a concentrated effort to drive him insane. He nevertheless attempts to establish a tentative romantic relationship with Maria. Meeting her at an amusement park, Trevor accompanies her son Nicholas on a grotesque funhouse ride called "Route 666", that causes the boy to suffer an epileptic seizure.'

The end of the film reveals that Bales character was reponsible for a hit and run accident, implying that the repressed guilt for this had lead to his insominia and subsequent hallucinations.

I thought the film was awful by the way.........

I liked the machinist ;)

[celtic isis]

One of the members on here Amerigirl found these pics a while back.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/ripheathledger1.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/amerigirl_20/normal_20thmar03warprotest008.jpg

hmmm...interesting. :eek: i want a shirt like that now!

i'm shocked to hear about christian bale, he's certainly up on the NWO stuff, we were talking about it on a thread the other day about his movie Equilibrium, which is about a totalatarian society...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31103

isn't it sad to think of heath ledger dead looking at pics of him? :(

[seeker1111]

Apparently the assault was a 'verbal assault'

When they say 'assaulted' i think assaulted...

On the radio this morning one of the hosts pointed out that this thanksgiving could be awkward for the family.

"Hey mum, thanks for going to the police the day after my movie came out with 'verbal' assault charges. Couldn't we just have settled it "IN" the family...":p

[real6]

In fact I'll be nice and post it for ya here :D

http://www.dedroidify.com/blogimages/heath/b9jats.jpg

Thank you, but i was looking for the Thread, Not the pics. The thread had all these pics in it.

But thanks Dear ;)

[amethyst]

I'm still sniffing and things still don't add up for me...... seems there's more than meets the eye here....Gloria Steinem, is the step mother of Christian.

According to wikipedia:

Like his father, David, Bale is known as an activist, and is a supporter of activism and animal welfare groups such as Greenpeace and the World Wildlife Fund.[11] He has been a vegetarian since age six when he read Charlotte's Web and made the connection between animals and meat.[43] The famous feminist activist Gloria Steinem became Bale's stepmother, and a first-time bride (at age 66), when she married David on September 3, 2000. The marriage ended with the death of the elder Bale in 2003.[44] Bale currently resides in Los Angeles.

And:

On July 22, 2008, Bale was arrested on suspicion of assaulting his mother, Jenny Bale, and sister, Sharon Bale, in his suite at London's Dorchester Hotel two days earlier. He was not arrested earlier due to the police's desire not to interfere with the premiere of The Dark Knight. The origin of the event would be "an argument over a long-running family dispute".

Maybe it was "just" a family dispute, but given the people that surround Bale and their associations of certain groups etc.......and the timing,and with Heath Ledger's recent death, it all seems a tad suspect to me.

[celtic isis]

According to wikipedia:

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Like his father, David, Bale is known as an activist, and is a supporter of activism and animal welfare groups such as Greenpeace and the World Wildlife Fund.[11] He has been a vegetarian since age six when he read Charlotte's Web and made the connection between animals and meat.[43] The famous feminist activist Gloria Steinem became Bale's stepmother, and a first-time bride (at age 66), when she married David on September 3, 2000. The marriage ended with the death of the elder Bale in 2003.[44] Bale currently resides in Los Angeles.


Maybe it was "just" a family dispute, but given the people that surround Bale and their associations of certain groups etc.......and the timing,and with Heath Ledger's recent death, it all seems a tad suspect to me.

i agree amethyst.

isn't greenpeace an illuminati front too?

sinking into conspiradom with that question!

:o:D

[amethyst]

i agree amethyst.

isn't greenpeace an illuminati front too?

sinking into conspiradom with that question!

:o:D

yeah, it seems like ya pull a thread, and it all starts to unravel...the connections....greenpeace...hmmm...illuminati front......Gloria Steinem...hmmm.....was supposedly CIA according to Fritz Springmeier (I think)

Batman.....hmmm.....Heath Ledger.....his death....hmmm.....associated with Mary kate Olsen...hmmm...who could be a mind control victim...and of course the Batman symbolism.....

And on and on it goes......not smelling too good...

[emanuel]

Who goes to the police and has charges brought to a family member because of verbal assault??? doesn't make a great deal of sense to me! What could he possibly have said??? The more info that comes out the more bizarre the story looks!

I'm not saying he lamped his mum and sister either because, even though 'they' said so, it still doesn't make any sense!

[seeker1111]

Who goes to the police and has charges brought to a family member because of verbal assault??? doesn't make a great deal of sense to me! What could he possibly have said??? The more info that comes out the more bizarre the story looks!

I'm not saying he lamped his mum and sister either because, even though 'they' said so, it still doesn't make any sense!

my thoughts exactly...:confused:

[tinmenace]

Who goes to the police and has charges brought to a family member because of verbal assault??? doesn't make a great deal of sense to me! What could he possibly have said??? The more info that comes out the more bizarre the story looks!

I'm not saying he lamped his mum and sister either because, even though 'they' said so, it still doesn't make any sense!

Precisely! Verbal assault? What were the damages? Someone got their feelings hurt? It's laughable!

There is something else going on. A long-standing family dispute...really? What does that mean?

[mountain]

Precisely! Verbal assault? What were the damages? Someone got their feelings hurt? It's laughable!

There is something else going on. A long-standing family dispute...really? What does that mean?






I was thinking the same as I looked more into what happened.

[tinmenace]

I was thinking the same as I looked more into what happened.

I liked your observation with the accents, Mountain. Did you see my response? What are your thoughts on that?

[quetzalcoatl]

There's always something else going on.. It's never one particular thing.. If someone lashes out or even if someone just 'verbally assaults' another it's usually a culmination of things that have built up in their own life. Fame, drugs, money.. Can lead to some abusive behavior. Don't under-estimate the abusive power of the word.

Verbal assaults are one thing but if someone's subjected to psychological abuse/harassment it can be a completely different picture.. & can & usually does lead to very negative outcomes. Seen it happen hundreds of times.

All speculative conjecture of-course.

My 2 cents.

[emanuel]

I don't know about the accents thing, purely because anybody can fake accents well, instinctively, myself being one when I'm larking about :D but there are some who struggle with it and need to make more of an effort, maybe because their ear is not as sharp if you know what I mean, and that is why some actors do tend to stay in character whilst they are shooting so they don't lose their edge. Imagine once the film is finished and when edited the stars accent is wobbley all the way through! You wouldn't take them seriously as an actor.

[krakhead]

Legally speaking an 'assault' occurs when a threat is made, verbal or gestural, that makes you fear for your safety.

So if someone screams in your face that they want to kill you with a big knife, or if someone quietly whispers to you they will kill you with a big knife , or if someone waves a big knife in your face in a threating manner - if you fear for your safety, an assault has occurred.

Battery, btw, occurs when there has been ANY unwanted physical contact. Even a poke in the chest.

If there has been no physical contact it has to be regarded as an assault.

But when people hear the word 'assault' it appears a general assumption that a physical attack has taken place.

Also it has been mentioned on here that there has been a long running family dispute.

I'll make a guess that no-one has knowledge of what this entails, we also don't know how his family interact with each other or the familial relationship construct.

So everyone is guessing what happened, why it happened and, IMO, reading WAY too much into it.

[hewrote]

contrived, it's SHOW BUSINESS people!! sheeeeeeeeesh! Although, he should be arrested for that terrible Dark Knight movie.

[real6]

contrived, It's Show Business People!! Sheeeeeeeeesh! Although, He Should Be Arrested For That Terrible Dark Knight Movie.

You Must Be Smoking Fucking Crack!!!

[hewrote]

You Must Be Smoking Fucking Crack!!!
MUST I!?!?! I never touch the stuff. You're not actually defending that miserable piece of shit movie are you!?!?! You must be smoking shit!!!

[mountain]

Hmmm, yes....reminded me of when Britney lapsed into a British accent...



We all know that Multiple Personality Disorder is often a result of extreme trauma, which splinters the person's personality into many. Each one compartimentalized and unaware of the others.




Hey Tin friend! Alright, well I have done my own extensive research into NKUltra and although I am no expert, this does remind me of of what I have learned about programmed alters.

I am just saying, I would think he would interview off-camera as himself with his natural speaking accent and I feel its sort of bizarre behaviour. I like to imitate a British accent out of fun, to be honest but I am very well aware of who I am, as we all have different aspects to our personalities.

This snippet from an interview, link here http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=66042&in_page_id=11

"You maintained your American accent while you were filming Batman Begins. Are you doing the same again now?"

"Yeah. I always maintain the accent while I’m working and I found myself in the bizarre situation after Batman Begins where, because it took so long to film, it took a really long time for my English accent to come back again. I thought: ‘Oh s*** what’s happened?’ It’s a matter of your muscles changing and if you’re doing something for ten months, your mouth changes completely. I’m in the very schizophrenic position now where I feel as natural speaking American as I do English."

[krakhead]

Hey Tin friend! Alright, well I have done my own extensive research into NKUltra and although I am no expert, this does remind me of of what I have learned about programmed alters.

I am just saying, I would think he would interview off-camera as himself with his natural speaking accent and I feel its sort of bizarre behaviour. I like to imitate a British accent out of fun, to be honest but I am very well aware of who I am, as we all have different aspects to our personalities.

This snippet from an interview, link here http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=66042&in_page_id=11

"You maintained your American accent while you were filming Batman Begins. Are you doing the same again now?"

"Yeah. I always maintain the accent while I’m working and I found myself in the bizarre situation after Batman Begins where, because it took so long to film, it took a really long time for my English accent to come back again. I thought: ‘Oh s*** what’s happened?’ It’s a matter of your muscles changing and if you’re doing something for ten months, your mouth changes completely. I’m in the very schizophrenic position now where I feel as natural speaking American as I do English."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

HE'S AN ACTOR! AN ACTOR! HE ACTS. FOR A LIVING. PLAYS MAKE BELIEVE FOR MONTHS ON END. ACTING. IT'S HIS JOB. DOES IT A LOT. PRETENDS TO BE OTHER PEOPLE. ACTORS DO THAT SEE. IT'S THEIR JOB. ACTING. PUTTING ON FUNNY CLOTHES AND STRANGE ACCENTS. SOME OF THE STORIES MAY NOT BE TRUE REFLECTIONS OF 'REALITY'. IT'S CALLED ACTING. ACTORS DO IT. FOR MONEY. IT'S THEIR JOB!!!!!

and relax..................

When I read 'Trainspotting' by Irvine Welsh, I found that the only way I could make sense of it was to read in a Scottish accent. By the end of the book I could only read in a Scottish accent, even in work. Took a few days to wear off.

Wow, isn't the breadth of human experience an amazing thing. You could almost imagine some people not being to fully understand the full course of someone else's experiences and then decide they were devils or something...........................

[mountain]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

HE'S AN ACTOR! AN ACTOR! HE ACTS. FOR A LIVING. PLAYS MAKE BELIEVE FOR MONTHS ON END. ACTING. IT'S HIS JOB. DOES IT A LOT. PRETENDS TO BE OTHER PEOPLE. ACTORS DO THAT SEE. IT'S THEIR JOB. ACTING. PUTTING ON FUNNY CLOTHES AND STRANGE ACCENTS. SOME OF THE STORIES MAY NOT BE TRUE REFLECTIONS OF 'REALITY'. IT'S CALLED ACTING. ACTORS DO IT. FOR MONEY. IT'S THEIR JOB!!!!!

and relax..................

When I read 'Trainspotting' by Irvine Welsh, I found that the only way I could make sense of it was to read in a Scottish accent. By the end of the book I could only read in a Scottish accent, even in work. Took a few days to wear off.

Wow, isn't the breadth of human experience an amazing thing. You could almost imagine some people not being to fully understand the full course of someone else's experiences and then decide they were devils or something...........................

I am not an imbecile, I know what an actor does....

[cheeb]

[B]


HE'S AN ACTOR! AN ACTOR! HE ACTS. FOR A LIVING. PLAYS MAKE BELIEVE FOR MONTHS ON END. ACTING. IT'S HIS JOB. DOES IT A LOT. PRETENDS TO BE OTHER PEOPLE. ACTORS DO THAT SEE. IT'S THEIR JOB. ACTING. PUTTING ON FUNNY CLOTHES AND STRANGE ACCENTS. SOME OF THE STORIES MAY NOT BE TRUE REFLECTIONS OF 'REALITY'. IT'S CALLED ACTING. ACTORS DO IT. FOR MONEY. IT'S THEIR JOB!!!!!


He Does Take It Too Far Though...

From "The Machinist"

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5259/balejuice1ig6.jpg

June 25, 2007 -- CHRISTIAN Bale must have gagged more than once during filming of "Rescue Dawn," opening next month. Bale stars as Dieter Dengler, the only American ever to break out of a POW camp in the Laotian jungle. In one scene, the actor scarfs down a bowl of live maggots served to him by his captors. Director Werner Herzog insisted Bale actually eat real bugs, because in this era of rampant computer effects, Herzog told The Post's Reed Tucker, he wanted "audiences to start believing their eyes again."

That Is Not Pretending No More.....

(Yeah I Know "Method" Acting,
And Realism...

:eek:

[krakhead]

[B]He Does Take It Too Far Though...


In your opinion maybe, to me he appears to be a great actor and, if I were to be really generous, a true artist and shaman.

[tinmenace]

I am just saying, I would think he would interview off-camera as himself with his natural speaking accent...

Agreed. :)

With the prolonged being-in-character state of mind is very much like switching to an alter personality.

I've been in the States for 15 years, and I still haven't lost my South African accent, even though my ear is firmly tuned to the American accent and speech patterns. I can change my accent to make myself more understandable to those that have trouble understanding me, but at no time have I ever had difficulty switching back, and it's been 15 years. So, like you, I don't buy this "stuck in an accent" thing. It's more like stuck in an altered personality.

Maybe this is what makes some of these actors so good at what they do? The ability to "switch". I wonder of they're "programmed" prior to these big blockbusters, just to make them more successful. Perhaps they call it "character preparation" or something similar.

There are some actors that are seriously only one character. It doesn't matter how many movies they do, they're still the same person. Two such people come to mind - Jennifer Anniston is always Rachel Green from Friends... and Kevin Costner always plays the same character...not sure who he is, but it's always the same dude showing up in all these different, seemingly unrelated movies.

[tinmenace]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


http://vb.spiritual-nature.com/images/smilies/icon_pokeeye.gif

Chill...

[krakhead]

Agreed. :)

With the prolonged being-in-character state of mind is very much like switching to an alter personality.

How can you prove that?

I've been in the States for 15 years, and I still haven't lost my South African accent, even though my ear is firmly tuned to the American accent and speech patterns. I can change my accent to make myself more understandable to those that have trouble understanding me, but at no time have I ever had difficulty switching back, and it's been 15 years. So, like you, I don't buy this "stuck in an accent" thing. It's more like stuck in an altered personality.

Not done it for months on end then?

You don't buy it? Well, what more proof do we need?!

ANother person who needs to learn the phrase "In my opinion" (IMO!)

Maybe this is what makes some of these actors so good at what they do? The ability to "switch". I wonder of they're "programmed" prior to these big blockbusters, just to make them more successful. Perhaps they call it "character preparation" or something similar.

More definitive proof!

There are some actors that are seriously only one character. It doesn't matter how many movies they do, they're still the same person. Two such people come to mind - Jennifer Anniston is always Rachel Green from Friends... and Kevin Costner always plays the same character...not sure who he is, but it's always the same dude showing up in all these different, seemingly unrelated movies.

At last, something that I can relate to! ;)

I consider several actors to just be 'big personalities' who don't 'act' in the truest sense.

I would like to present the following list for your perusal -

Bruce Willis
Keanu Reeves
Gene Wilder
Keira Knightly
Will Ferrell (albeit to a lesser degree)
Michael Moore ;)

[krakhead]

http://vb.spiritual-nature.com/images/smilies/icon_pokeeye.gif

Chill...

Lol! Not until you stop with your idiocy! ;)

[tinmenace]

Lol! Not until you stop with your idiocy! ;)

Oh ok :)

[danster82]

Yes there probably is more to this story than meets the eye and that would be its a distraction from real news and events.

[cheeb]

In your opinion maybe, to me he appears to be a great actor and, if I were to be really generous, a true artist and shaman.

Not My Opinion...

Concern at Bale film weight loss
Christian Bale in The Machinist
Christian Bale stars in the dark thriller
Actor Christian Bale has come under fire from health experts after losing a third of his body weight for his latest film role.

Bale lost 63lb (28.5kg) for the dark thriller The Machinist, now being shown at film festivals across the US.

West Wales-born Bale said he went from 184 lbs to 121 lbs (83 kg to 55kg) for the lead role as a man whose health deteriorates because he cannot sleep


"The producers of the film claim that Christian Bale dropped from about 180 pounds in weight down to about 120 pounds in weight to make this film. They also claim that Bale actually wanted to drop down to 100 pounds, but that they would not let him go below 120 out of fear that his health could be in too much danger if he did.

This Is What He Also Does...
If he plays an American character, he will use an American accent in all the interviews related to the film. He says he does this so the audience isn't confused.

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6849/hamlet48ej7.jpg
Sir Laurence Olivier: Dear boy, it's called acting. (upon seeing Dustin Hoffman's "method" acting by not sleeping and making a mess of himself to get into character while shooting Marathon Man.)

:rolleyes:

[real6]

more than meets the eye

Transformers.........Robots in disguise!!!

[seeker1111]

Still chatting about the almighty 'celebs™'...?

I'm sure people would 'wake up' faster by not watching the television (goes without saying)- and stopping giving a crap about these degenerate millionaires- and their bizarre lifestyles. i wonder if they give a crap about anyone on these David Icke fora? Hmmm... nah, they don't give a toss about 'riff raff'. The Holy Wood film industry is rife with abuse of all kinds...

These 'celebs™' are there to distract you, and corrupt/brainwash you.

People here should beyond this prolefeed...

I'm not attacking anyone specifically, but come on, these 'celebs™' eat, drink, and sh*t just like anyone else (you can even download the pictures I bet)! :-/

Anyway, carry on... :o

oh...well lookie here, big words for someone who keeps on visiting the thread...;)
thank you for looking out for our well being and putting all of us 'sleeper's in our place. :eek::rolleyes:

[steevo]

I would like to present the following list for your perusal -

Bruce Willis
Keanu Reeves
Gene Wilder
Keira Knightly
Will Ferrell (albeit to a lesser degree)
Michael Moore ;)

Bruce Willis can DEFINITELY act cos I saw him in Moonlighting YEARS ago and he was brilliant in that (his acting abilities I mean). As for films like Die Hard, he was terrible in them but the scripts were appalling so what do you expect ?

[menses]

Hey could his uncanny ability to do accents so well and become his character have to do with mind control alters? I am just curious to know if someone else thought that.

Precisely...

[menses]

Agreed. :)

With the prolonged being-in-character state of mind is very much like switching to an alter personality.

I've been in the States for 15 years, and I still haven't lost my South African accent, even though my ear is firmly tuned to the American accent and speech patterns. I can change my accent to make myself more understandable to those that have trouble understanding me, but at no time have I ever had difficulty switching back, and it's been 15 years. So, like you, I don't buy this "stuck in an accent" thing. It's more like stuck in an altered personality.

Maybe this is what makes some of these actors so good at what they do? The ability to "switch". I wonder of they're "programmed" prior to these big blockbusters, just to make them more successful. Perhaps they call it "character preparation" or something similar.

There are some actors that are seriously only one character. It doesn't matter how many movies they do, they're still the same person. Two such people come to mind - Jennifer Anniston is always Rachel Green from Friends... and Kevin Costner always plays the same character...not sure who he is, but it's always the same dude showing up in all these different, seemingly unrelated movies.






This is entirely correct

[emanuel]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

HE'S AN ACTOR! AN ACTOR! HE ACTS. FOR A LIVING. PLAYS MAKE BELIEVE FOR MONTHS ON END. ACTING. IT'S HIS JOB. DOES IT A LOT. PRETENDS TO BE OTHER PEOPLE. ACTORS DO THAT SEE. IT'S THEIR JOB. ACTING. PUTTING ON FUNNY CLOTHES AND STRANGE ACCENTS. SOME OF THE STORIES MAY NOT BE TRUE REFLECTIONS OF 'REALITY'. IT'S CALLED ACTING. ACTORS DO IT. FOR MONEY. IT'S THEIR JOB!!!!!

and relax..................

When I read 'Trainspotting' by Irvine Welsh, I found that the only way I could make sense of it was to read in a Scottish accent. By the end of the book I could only read in a Scottish accent, even in work. Took a few days to wear off.

Wow, isn't the breadth of human experience an amazing thing. You could almost imagine some people not being to fully understand the full course of someone else's experiences and then decide they were devils or something...........................

LOL that made me laugh so hard, love it.

I don't take this thread to seriously but it is interesting.......though I notice nobody is really going anywhere with it, loosing a little steam now.

[seeker1111]

LOL that made me laugh so hard, love it.

I don't take this thread to seriously but it is interesting.......though I notice nobody is really going anywhere with it, loosing a little steam now.

You're face is losing steam...:D

Yeah, I got nothing better...:p

I'm not sure where this thread was supposed to go if anywhere...just the sharing of information I suppose. :)

[celtic isis]

Kevin Costner always plays the same character...not sure who he is, but it's always the same dude showing up in all these different, seemingly unrelated movies.



you haven't seen Mr Brooks ;)

Actually kevin costner seems a kool chap, on the DVD bonus stuff he sounds like an awakened one, i always disliked him for some reason but he impressed me with what he said.

and for Anistonapolis :) Derailed is a brilliant film and NO RACHAEL!

don't know about this accent thingy, though french is the same as english for me now, not speaking but hearing, no difference to me. I think it gets like that after a while, even just researching for a part...but anyway.

interesting as it is to ponder over these people, i guess they're just there to distract us in the end eh.

[krakhead]

This is entirely correct

So you are 100% sure that tinmenace has no trouble changing accent?

etc.
etc.

:mad:

[emanuel]

You're face is losing steam...:D

Yeah, I got nothing better...:p

I'm not sure where this thread was supposed to go if anywhere...just the sharing of information I suppose. :)

Thanks for that, what happened to the hugs?? :rolleyes:;)

Didn't mean to dis your thread, just that it has past it's peak now......bit like your sense of humor :p
(just kiddin', don't get a complex ;))

[seeker1111]

Thanks for that, what happened to the hugs?? :rolleyes:;)

Didn't mean to dis your thread, just that it has past it's peak now......bit like your sense of humor :p
(just kiddin', don't get a complex ;))

:eek: I am offended! hehe...hey man I just post and let the chips fall where they may. I have no opinion one way or the other if people stay interested or not. :)

And, it's going to be that way is it? As for my sense of humor passing it's peak, I'm not entirely sure there ever was one to begin with...not unlike your own thought pattern, which has clearly plateaued. (just kiddin', don't get a complex ;)) *hug*:D

[mountain]

I admit I know that myself and others can speculate impulsively when we hear about celebrities behaving oddly, especially after delving into subjects such as trauma-based mind control. One can't help but be a li'l inquisitive though.

I'd rather want to believe that celebs aren't really subject to these monstrosities, but in the end I feel we mean well to be concerned so I will leave it at that. ;)

[cheeb]

It's called morbid curiosity. :-/

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9108/gloriasteinemasplayboybni7.jpg
Gloria Steinem, undercover as a Playboy Bunny for an expose on the New York Playboy Club, 1962

Feminist icon GLORIA STEINEM is begging her stepson CHRISTIAN BALE not to take on any more roles where he has to gain or lose large amounts of weight

Before Steinem was a crazy woman she was a reporter, and first came to fame in 1963 when she wrote an undercover exposé of life as a Playboy Bunny. She was 28, and didn't then consider herself a feminist, and so the article focused less on the politics of the Hefner empire and more on the socio-economics of a Bunny's life.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1260/steinemandhughesrx0.gif

Steinem wrote, all of which added up. Before she herself qualified, she had to undergo a gynaecological examination. After the article was published, Hefner wrote to her, conceding that "your beef about the physical given the girls before they start work at the club prompted my eliminating it".

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4541/pamgrier006fx4.jpg
Pam Greir Of Blaxploitation Fame...

Bales Stepmum Was In The MK Ultra
"Bunny Buisness"

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2896/jessicarabbitld7.jpg

:eek:

[cleft_asunder]

Lets get over it people. hahhaha

Here is a little light over what really happened, and it is so, so sad because instead of helping him trough this times his family makes it even worse for him by going to the police!

“Batman star Christian Bale allegedly assaulted his mother and sister after becoming depressed over strains in his marriage and the death of close friend Heath Ledger, it was claimed last night.”
”
“A source close to Bale said the incident comes at a time when his marriage to Sandra ‘Sibi’ Blazic, a former model and make-up artist, is enduring difficulties.”

“The source also claimed Bale had been deeply affected by the death from a drugs overdose of Ledger, who plays The Joker in the Batman film The Dark Knight.”

‘Christian’s attitude is that this was his mother’s fault because she became very provocative in an argument they were having,’ the source said. ‘Things got out of control and he says now he wishes he just left the room.

‘The thing that happened here was that normally Christian would just call a friend and go out to a pub to cool off. But he was literally trapped into this confrontation with his mother and sister because there was an army of fans and paparazzi outside.

‘He was feeling the stress, but he didn’t lay a finger on anyone. Instead, he flew off the handle and cussed his mother. He just got very loud because his mother was saying some very outrageous things about him, his wife and his child.’

The source added: ‘His marriage is not perfect, but his relationship with his mother is in much more trouble.”

Here is the whole read:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1037313/EXCLUSIVE-Arrested-Batman-star-flew-rage-mother-insulted-wife.html

Bale looks and sounds like he's 4-real. As in he isn't the typical conceited star.

[emanuel]

:eek: I am offended! hehe...hey man I just post and let the chips fall where they may. I have no opinion one way or the other if people stay interested or not. :)

And, it's going to be that way is it? As for my sense of humor passing it's peak, I'm not entirely sure there ever was one to begin with...not unlike your own thought pattern, which has clearly plateaued. (just kiddin', don't get a complex ;)) *hug*:D

What do you mean 'going to be that way is it?' you started it girly :p:D
My thought pattern has plateaued momentarily, that's when I get a bit silly from time to time! :cool: but then I get right back on the ladder!

[real6]

Bale looks and sounds like he's 4-real. As in he isn't the typical conceited star.

He's not from what i know. I met him for a Autograph once at the The Machinist Premier in NYC and he was really friendly.

And im not star struck. They are just regular people.

[seeker1111]

What do you mean 'going to be that way is it?' you started it girly :p:D
My thought pattern has plateaued momentarily, that's when I get a bit silly from time to time! :cool: but then I get right back on the ladder!

:D i know...i was just kiddin hehe

[emanuel]

:D i know...i was just kiddin hehe

I know....:D that's why I'm kidding lol! (we could go round in this circle for ages but I'm getting dizzy ;))

....so anyway, christian bale is human after all?!! :)

[seeker1111]

I know....:D that's why I'm kidding lol! (we could go round in this circle for ages but I'm getting dizzy ;))

....so anyway, christian bale is human after all?!! :)

circles are fun...until they're not. :p

christian bale human?! i don't believe it...:rolleyes:

are you human? :eek:

[emanuel]

circles are fun...until they're not. :p

christian bale human?! i don't believe it...:rolleyes:

are you human? :eek:

Circles symbolise life do they not? :)

I think I'm human, havn't caught myself shapeshifting in the mirror soooo...yeah, I'm human ;)

....well, I don't feel too human some mornings but....:D

What about you anyway??? your avatar could be a front.....c'mon be honest...you sleep on the ceiling don't you??!? :eek:

[seeker1111]

Circles symbolise life do they not? :)

I think I'm human, havn't caught myself shapeshifting in the mirror soooo...yeah, I'm human ;)

....well, I don't feel too human some mornings but....:D

What about you anyway??? your avatar could be a front.....c'mon be honest...you sleep on the ceiling don't you??!? :eek:

Yes yes they do. :) Circles are great, as long as I'm not in the same circle forever and spiral out a few times or so I'm good.

*SHHHH* (eyes dart nervously from side to side) *whispers* Don't blow my cover!

Doesn't everyone sleep on the ceiling? :eek:

[emanuel]

Yes yes they do. :) Circles are great, as long as I'm not in the same circle forever and spiral out a few times or so I'm good.

*SHHHH* (eyes dart nervously from side to side) *whispers* Don't blow my cover!

Doesn't everyone sleep on the ceiling? :eek:

*whispers* Whoops, sorry, I thought everyone knew :o

Now I think about some of the thoughts and theories I have, maybe we do, in fact, sleep on the ceiling (in a way)! I'm refering to astral projection and the 'second body' by the way ;)

[seeker1111]

*whispers* Whoops, sorry, I thought everyone knew :o

Now I think about some of the thoughts and theories I have, maybe we do, in fact, sleep on the ceiling (in a way)! I'm refering to astral projection and the 'second body' by the way ;)

Neat! Cool way of looking at it...

I love how this thread has 100% completely gone off topic and outstayed its welcome. :D

I wonder if w1nstonsm1th84 is still lurking about...w1stonsm1th84 you there? :rolleyes:

[w1nstonsm1th84]

I wonder if w1nstonsm1th84 is still lurking about...w1stonsm1th84 you there? *rolleyes*

Want your eyes back...? :-/

[seeker1111]

Want your eyes back...? :-/

i knew it! :D fast response too!

[emanuel]

Neat! Cool way of looking at it...

I love how this thread has 100% completely gone off topic and outstayed its welcome. :D

I wonder if w1nstonsm1th84 is still lurking about...w1stonsm1th84 you there? :rolleyes:

I know, it's kinda funny :)

I'm gonna jump out now (got some housework to do, lovely) but I'll be back later on. (lets see how many people you can get into the 'hugs' thread while I'm gone) :cool:

[real6]

After reading that article, it seems clear to me that something like this happened: His mother and sister asked him for the $200k loan for his sister and he refused. Then, his mother grew upset at his decision and ended up talking negatively about his wife (typical mother-in-law/daughter-in-law stuff). Bale, already anxious about the premiere, lashed out and cussed out his mother and sister.

It seems like it was his family's fault due to the fact that Bale was obviously not in a mood to talk about giving his sister a loan or to have his wife be talked about in a negative fashion.


http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242008/news/worldnews/batman_went_batty_for_wife_121276.htm


Batman star Christian Bale doesn't rush to the aid of a damsel in distress only in the movies.

His hotel-room dust-up with his mother and sister started when his mom insulted his wife - causing him to "fly off the handle," according to reports.

Jenny Bale, 61, set things off by saying some "outrageous things" about her son's wife, Sibi Blazic, Sunday at the five-star Dorchester Hotel in London. It was the night before the European premiere of Christian's blockbuster superhero flick "The Dark Knight."

Bale's mother and sister Sharon, 40, later filed a complaint with police saying he assaulted them. Some reports have said Bale, 34, shoved his 61-year-old mother, perhaps knocking her to the ground, an allegation he denies.

The London Sun reported that the two women had gone to the hotel so that Sharon could ask Bale for a $200,000 loan, and that the actor refused.

"Christian was stressed, but he didn't lay a finger on anyone. Instead, he flew off the handle and cussed his mother," a close friend of Bale's told The Daily Mail of London. "He just got very loud because his mother was saying some very outrageous things about him and his wife."

The big screen's Caped Crusader came in for questioning the day after the red-carpet gala opening. Bale has not been charged, but suffered a public-relations black eye at a time when his career is soaring high on the wings of the box-office smash.

"Christian's attitude is that this was his mother's fault because she became very provocative in an argument they were having," the friend told The Mail. "Things got out of control and he now says he wishes he just left the room."

The film opened in the United States to rave reviews and took in a record $158.4 million in its opening weekend.

The success of the film helped fuel the fight - because the throngs of fans and press outside the hotel meant Bale could not just walk away, the friend said.

"Normally, Christian would just call a friend and go out to a pub to cool off. But he was literally trapped into this confrontation with his mother and sister because there was an army of fans and paparazzi outside," the friend said.

The harsh words from his mother - a former circus clown - came at a time when Bale was experiencing some difficulties with Blazic, 38, a one-time model and assistant to actress Winona Ryder whom he met on the set of the 1995 film "Little Women."

The pair married in 2000 and had a daughter in 2005.

Both Bale's mother and sister have acknowledged an incident occurred at the hotel but have declined to discuss it further.

Bale late night attended the film's premiere in Barcelona, Spain, where he didn't comment.








Also i found this:

His mom and sister are alcoholics and drug addicts, they showed up at his hotel uninvited and highly intoxicated. they were calling him big shot and that he needs to take care of his own. His mom was yelling that he would be nothing without her and he owed her. His sister was begging for money and when he was pushing her toward the door his mother came from behind and started hitting him on his head and kicking him. He managed to push them both out the door and his mom fell, they called the police and wanted him arrested. I believe that Chirstian is the victim here not his mom or sister

His mom and sister wanted the front desk worker to let them into his room to wait for him. When they were told no they started cussing and yelling. they sat in front of his door for an hour until he finally arrived.

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2008/07/22/christian-bale-dark-knight-uk/ all-comments/#comments


The Bale scandal just won't die - radio 5 just confirmed that Daily Mail and The Sun are going to pay Sharon (the sister) £100,000 for her story - the exact sum she tried to squeeze out of Christian. It makes perfect sense - if he wasn't going to give her the money she would go to the cops and the press - voila, she'll have her fucking money now. Fucking calculating bitch. They also mentioned that Bale's mother was going to sell her story but didn't say how much she would be getting. Is money really that much more important than family?

[daveybpl]

"Batman" isn't the issue IMO.

Batman is an archetypal Golem figure, essentialy the byproduct of insecruity and wounded pride. Golems are all about the satisfying emotional realease of bottled up anger, rage and fustration.

Just thought I'd add my 2 pence worth, I read Chris Knowles 'Our Gods Wear Spandex' last month, the esoteric and occult history of comic books. Good stuff.

[daveybpl]

Golem, as in Jewish mysticism clay man, not Andy Serkis ;)

[willard]

I wonder if we'll ever know if this is related to the

*spoilers for the film The Dark Knight*

Hidden in plain view reference to mobile phones being used as surveillance?.

like a "shut your trap, Bale you know we can get to you"

[amethyst]

I wonder if we'll ever know if this is related to the

*spoilers for the film The Dark Knight*

Hidden in plain view reference to mobile phones being used as surveillance?.

like a "shut your trap, Bale you know we can get to you"

I was thinking along the same lines :cool:......

This story just gets more bizarre......

If anyone has been reading the "Kurt Cobain" thread ,in the " Political Manipulation / Cover-Ups / False Flags" section, you might recognize some of the highlighted "Bolded" phrases...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1038185/Christian-Bale-flew-handle-family-begged-100k.html

Excerpt:

EXCLUSIVE: Arrested Batman star 'lost his temper after his mother insulted his wife'


Although police were informed about Sunday's incident, they decided to wait until they had spoken to the alleged victims before questioning Bale.


Jenny and Sharon Bale gave their statements to police on Monday and on Tuesday


Bale spent nearly five hours at Belgravia police station in central London.


Though Jenny Bale - who formerly worked as a circus clown and now is a reflexologist - has previously spoken of her pride in her son, the two do not appear to be especially close.


Christian Bale's parents split up when he was 13. Four years later, while his mother Jenny stayed in Bournemouth, Christian followed his father David to live in America.


In stark contrast to Bale's multimillionaire Hollywood lifestyle, Jenny Bale lives in a modest £275,000, detached house in Southbourne, Dorset. She drives a VW Beetle decorated with angelwing motifs.


She has worked a dancer, a sword-eater's assistant and has played the Queen of Hearts at an Alice in Wonderland children's theme park.


She brought up Christian and his two sisters Louise and Sharon among a menagerie of family pets, including 12 cats, six dogs, two ponies, 24 guinea pigs, two rabbits and several stick insects.

Christian Bale married Sandra 'Sibi' Blazic, 38, in 2000 after the couple met when she was working as a personal assistant to the actress Winona Ryder on the film Little Women. They have a three-year-old daughter.


Yesterday one source close to Christian Bale revealed that the couple had recently been experiencing marital problems.


The actor is also said to have been in a fragile state of mind following the death of his friend Heath Ledger, who also stars in The Dark Knight film, from a drugs overdose.


Recently he also complained that he had been depressed and suffering from insomnia.

Yesterday neither Jenny nor Sharon Bale - who lives very near her mother in a £240,000 semi-detached home - were willing to comment."


Is Christian "waking up" ????

Yeah, that story...just does not add up.

Who goes to the police unless they've been physically hurt or attacked?

Methinks, more like they want to send a message to Christian to keep towing the party line..

.."just do your job Christian...don't make waves, don't cause trouble, keep to the program, or "programming"

[cheesedanish]

It just seems to much of a 'coincidence' that this story surfaces just as the
movie is released. Is it not negative publicity that is manufactured?

I have seen it with all huge releases there is some sinister story making
headlines. Now why do 'they' use negative stories - is it something in our
psyche that sits up and pays attention to this. Because it does not
affect the ratings negatively. Miley / Britney do not sell less records due to
bad publicity - they sell more. How does that work? Just off the top of my
head the recent Hancock release had rumours going round of Smith/Theron
supposed affair. Now we hear of Madonna's supposed affair just ahead of
her world tour. Do they love negative publicity?

[cheesedanish]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1260/steinemandhughesrx0.gif


[Doesn't Steineman look alot like Lc from the Hills (Lauren Conran) ??

[klinker]

I was thinking along the same lines :cool:......

This story just gets more bizarre......

If anyone has been reading the "Kurt Cobain" thread ,in the " Political Manipulation / Cover-Ups / False Flags" section, you might recognize some of the highlighted "Bolded" phrases...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1038185/Christian-Bale-flew-handle-family-begged-100k.html

Excerpt:



Is Christian "waking up" ????

Yeah, that story...just does not add up.

Who goes to the police unless they've been physically hurt or attacked?

Methinks, more like they want to send a message to Christian to keep towing the party line..

.."just do your job Christian...don't make waves, don't cause trouble, keep to the program, or "programming"


I wondered that too but perhaps having made Equilibrium he was already awake and he must have shared some of this common ground with Ledger.

[mcthompson2x]

That would be awesome if a few high profile public figures would start spilling the beans. The day that happens, it's all over for the Illuminati. Most Americans already know in the back of their minds that they're being controlled, they just need validation from a socially acceptable figure.

[lightworks]

.....I'm waiting lightworks!!! Or were you refering to me and my previous post?? Because I was being lighthearted and pointing out that one could make up any story with what little info is currently available. :rolleyes:

If you were refering to me then you need to have a look a little further back at what I have written in the past before you go making silly snap judgements!

If you were not talking about me and my previous post then whoopsie, I jumped to the wrong conclusion :D

have a cup of tea and breathe

[lightworks]

Hey Tin friend! Alright, well I have done my own extensive research into NKUltra and although I am no expert, this does remind me of of what I have learned about programmed alters.

I am just saying, I would think he would interview off-camera as himself with his natural speaking accent and I feel its sort of bizarre behaviour. I like to imitate a British accent out of fun, to be honest but I am very well aware of who I am, as we all have different aspects to our personalities.

This snippet from an interview, link here http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=66042&in_page_id=11

"You maintained your American accent while you were filming Batman Begins. Are you doing the same again now?"

"Yeah. I always maintain the accent while I’m working and I found myself in the bizarre situation after Batman Begins where, because it took so long to film, it took a really long time for my English accent to come back again. I thought: ‘Oh s*** what’s happened?’ It’s a matter of your muscles changing and if you’re doing something for ten months, your mouth changes completely. I’m in the very schizophrenic position now where I feel as natural speaking American as I do English."
some of you have the intelligence and the insight

[belial]

Definition of Actor: "dickhead who thinks he/she is better than the population/earns too much"

Sheep on this forum:

Wakey, wakey, "Dark Knight" is an average film. Wake up muppets. It's being premiered as I speak (in the shithole called the UK). Non-sheep like me have:

a) watched this film 7 days before you and have seen the hype for what it is... YOU ARE ALL SHEEP
b) Batman Begins was better
c) Jack Nicholson was the best joker... most of you idiots are too young too remember
d) don't believe the hype

Peace

[tinmenace]

Definition of Actor: "dickhead who thinks he/she is better than the population/earns too much"

Sheep on this forum:

Wakey, wakey, "Dark Knight" is an average film. Wake up muppets. It's being premiered as I speak (in the shithole called the UK). Non-sheep like me have:

a) watched this film 7 days before you and have seen the hype for what it is... YOU ARE ALL SHEEP
b) Batman Begins was better
c) Jack Nicholson was the best joker... most of you idiots are too young too remember
d) don't believe the hype

Peace

Yes, what a peaceful message indeed :rolleyes:

[mcthompson2x]

Definition of Actor: "dickhead who thinks he/she is better than the population/earns too much"

Sheep on this forum:

Wakey, wakey, "Dark Knight" is an average film. Wake up muppets. It's being premiered as I speak (in the shithole called the UK). Non-sheep like me have:

a) watched this film 7 days before you and have seen the hype for what it is... YOU ARE ALL SHEEP
b) Batman Begins was better
c) Jack Nicholson was the best joker... most of you idiots are too young too remember
d) don't believe the hype

Peace

Your name fits your attitude.

[steevo]

That would be awesome if a few high profile public figures would start spilling the beans. The day that happens, it's all over for the Illuminati. Most Americans already know in the back of their minds that they're being controlled, they just need validation from a socially acceptable figure.

Very good post McThompson2x :)

[seeker1111]

Definition of Actor: "dickhead who thinks he/she is better than the population/earns too much"

Sheep on this forum:

Wakey, wakey, "Dark Knight" is an average film. Wake up muppets. It's being premiered as I speak (in the shithole called the UK). Non-sheep like me have:

a) watched this film 7 days before you and have seen the hype for what it is... YOU ARE ALL SHEEP
b) Batman Begins was better
c) Jack Nicholson was the best joker... most of you idiots are too young too remember
d) don't believe the hype

Peace

Thanks for gracing this thread with your graceless insight.

I know one shouldn't judge a book by its cover but frankly, this being my first impression of you...I don't think I'll be following any of your future posts as it would aggravate and provoke me to negative responses. (i'm only human after all)

[emanuel]

have a cup of tea and breathe

Can I have a coffee instead ;)

But honestly, were you really refering to me? (I aint mad, just curious :D)

[emanuel]

Definition of Actor: "dickhead who thinks he/she is better than the population/earns too much"

Sheep on this forum:

Wakey, wakey, "Dark Knight" is an average film. Wake up muppets. It's being premiered as I speak (in the shithole called the UK). Non-sheep like me have:

a) watched this film 7 days before you and have seen the hype for what it is... YOU ARE ALL SHEEP
b) Batman Begins was better
c) Jack Nicholson was the best joker... most of you idiots are too young too remember
d) don't believe the hype

Peace

Oh so you're 'awake' are you! Interesting method of introduction from someone so enlightened! Take it easy mate, we're all on the same team here.

[krakhead]

Definition of Actor: "dickhead who thinks he/she is better than the population/earns too much"

Sheep on this forum:

Wakey, wakey, "Dark Knight" is an average film. Wake up muppets. It's being premiered as I speak (in the shithole called the UK). Non-sheep like me have:

a) watched this film 7 days before you and have seen the hype for what it is... YOU ARE ALL SHEEP
b) Batman Begins was better
c) Jack Nicholson was the best joker... most of you idiots are too young too remember
d) don't believe the hype

Peace

LMAO! I like you! You're an absolute idiot, but I like you! :D

Whirled Peas :p

[elementel]

Quote:
Originally Posted by belial
Definition of Actor: "dickhead who thinks he/she is better than the population/earns too much"

Sheep on this forum:

Wakey, wakey, "Dark Knight" is an average film. Wake up muppets. It's being premiered as I speak (in the shithole called the UK). Non-sheep like me have:

a) watched this film 7 days before you and have seen the hype for what it is... YOU ARE ALL SHEEP
b) Batman Begins was better
c) Jack Nicholson was the best joker... most of you idiots are too young too remember
d) don't believe the hype

Peace





Jack Nicholson was shit.:eek:

[steevo]

Bales dad died in 2003 just 3 years after marrying Gloria Steinem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia a feminist activist.

On September 3, 2000, at age 66, she (Gloria Steinem) married David Bale, father of actor Christian Bale. The wedding was performed at the home of her friend Wilma Mankiller, formerly the first female Chief of the Cherokee Nation. Steinem and Bale were married for only three years before he died of brain lymphoma on December 30, 2003, at age 62.

Steinem was also a member of Democratic Socialists of America.

[talkingchimp]

Bales dad died in 2003 just 3 years after marrying Gloria Steinem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem) a feminist activist.

gloria steinem was instrumental in the radical feminist movement of the 60's, previously to this she helped promote playboy in its beginning, however it later came to light that she was a cia operative, being used to radicalise the female psychology to fundamentally break down the heart of the family, hence the huge rise in divorce and therefore the breakdown of the tribe and more personal reliance on the controlling state. dangerous woman! i wonder if christian has awakened and his handlers are attempting to quieten him?

[steevo]

gloria steinem was instrumental in the radical feminist movement of the 60's, previously to this she helped promote playboy in its beginning, however it later came to light that she was a cia operative, being used to radicalise the female psychology to fundamentally break down the heart of the family, hence the huge rise in divorce and therefore the breakdown of the tribe and more personal reliance on the controlling state. dangerous woman! i wonder if christian has awakened and his handlers are attempting to quieten him?

Thanks for the info Chimp. There is definitely something afoot in my opinion.
The "powers that be" have always used women to get close to influential people such as movie stars and singers and song writers.
I reckon that the so called "supermodels" are a CIA invention used to help them get close to influential celebrities so that they can keep an "eye" on them. Also "reality" tv helps to elevate these talentless gimps so that they can mix with celebrities and date them.
Look at Helena Christensen, she dated Heath Ledger (dead), Michael Hutchence (dead). And is mates with Michael Stipe of REM and Bono.
Check out her Wiki page for more details :-
Helena Christensen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am comparing gloria steinem to a supermodel.

[talkingchimp]

i watched the dark knight again last night and thought of something a bit creepy although it could be just my brain firing off wildly, heath ledger acted with both the gyllenhall's and dont they come from some weird family? maybe keeping an eye on heath?

[amethyst]

gloria steinem was instrumental in the radical feminist movement of the 60's, previously to this she helped promote playboy in its beginning, however it later came to light that she was a cia operative, being used to radicalise the female psychology to fundamentally break down the heart of the family, hence the huge rise in divorce and therefore the breakdown of the tribe and more personal reliance on the controlling state. dangerous woman! i wonder if christian has awakened and his handlers are attempting to quieten him?

Well that's the what this whole thread is pointing to!

It's not just a celebrity gawker discussion....as some other posters have mentioned.

[amethyst]

i watched the dark knight again last night and thought of something a bit creepy although it could be just my brain firing off wildly, heath ledger acted with both the gyllenhall's and dont they come from some weird family? maybe keeping an eye on heath?

Thought those "gyllenhall's" are a bit strange myself.

[talkingchimp]

Thought those "gyllenhall's" are a bit strange myself.

think about this. jake gyllenhall comes from nowhere to star in possibly the cult film of the decade Donnie Darko which millions of of people will associate themselves with........then the day after tomorrow (al gore inspired fear trip environment brainwashing hokem) then the gi film, continuing in the vein of platoon and the other vietcong classics, albeit in a new setting, inspiring the teen youth! and then brokeback with heath.............his sister, also in Donnie Darko (great advertising for the family) secretary playing the fantasy woman, etc etc...............something else i noticed heath was so much like a young mel gibson, especially as the joker, many of his mannerisms were almost imitating mel.........maybe it was just me.

[seaweed]

Is Christian "waking up" ????

Yeah, that story...just does not add up.

Who goes to the police unless they've been physically hurt or attacked?

Methinks, more like they want to send a message to Christian to keep towing the party line..

.."just do your job Christian...don't make waves, don't cause trouble, keep to the program, or "programming"

Christian Bale is a very interesting character in terms of this forum, and I use the term 'character' deliberately.

From his beginnings as a prodigiously talented child star through projects as diverse as 'American Psycho', 'The Machinist', 'The Prestige' and 'Batman', to name but a few, he has shown himself to be one of those rare actors who, despite being instantly recognisable somehow manages to become the character to such an extent that it is easy to forget you are watching an actor playing a part.

He also tends to remain at least partly 'in character' when giving interviews, and speaks in the accent of his character rather than his own, so in effect we know nothing of his true personality, if indeed he has just the one personality.

As to the question 'is he awake?', well, he is a devoted environmentalist and animal lover, and became vegetarian at the age of six after reading 'Charlotte's Web' and making the connection between animals and meat. That's one very awake six-year-old.

However, I do feel that given his ever increasing celebrity status, it is likely that he is being suppressed in some way.

Here's a quote from his IMDB.com biography:

Since a young age he was very ambitious about attending Drama School, and auditioned for the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art (RADA), the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art (LAMDA), and the Central School of Speech And Drama at the age of twenty. He was accepted to all, but was convinced by his parents to continue working instead (my emphasis). To this day, he regrets not attending drama school for his personal passion of learning his craft.

And another:

"The only thing that I'm obsessed with is sleeping and, actually, it is more than an obsession, it is a pleasure. I love sleeping so much that I could do it 12 hours a day if I didn't have to turn on the alarm clock . . . and still, sometimes . . ."


A formerly very famous friend of mine, whom I believe may have been a victim of some form of mind control went through a period of narcolepsy.
I'm not saying this is necessarily proof of anything, just food for thought.

Best,
Seaweed

[amethyst]

A formerly very famous friend of mine, whom I believe may have been a victim of some form of mind control went through a period of narcolepsy.
I'm not saying this is necessarily proof of anything, just food for thought.
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's those personal encounters and instances with certain individuals, that make you go "hmmmm.......".

[talkingchimp]

Yeah, I know what you mean. It's those personal encounters and instances with certain individuals, that make you go "hmmmm.......".

and its your god thats letting it happen! very benevolent!

[noobcybot]

I believe his first role as a kid was in a Steven Spielburg production. The numerology is, he was 13 and the film was made in 1987.

[talkingchimp]

it was empire of the sun.

[talkingchimp]

Thought those "gyllenhall's" are a bit strange myself.

id have to say not as strange as someone following a mythical god though.

[seeker1111]

id have to say not as strange as someone following a mythical god though.

Hey talkingchimp, no need to be condescending. We all see things the way we see them and as long as we're not harming anyone else then that is our business.

Just my two cents. :)

[talkingchimp]

i wasnt being condescending i was being sincere, its truly what i feel, all religion is harmful. and you can forget your cents they are worthless, you'd better get a couple of ameros!

[seeker1111]

i wasnt being condescending i was being sincere, its truly what i feel, all religion is harmful. and you can forget your cents they are worthless, you'd better get a couple of ameros!

and i'm sure she truly feels differently than you. :D and dammit, i'll keep my cents as i truly feel they are worth-ful (is that a word??) hahaha...

[talkingchimp]

and i'm sure she truly feels differently than you. :D and dammit, i'll keep my cents as i truly feel they are worth-ful (is that a word??) hahaha...

well obviously, but it is never going to stop me ridiculing religious beliefs or blind faith because they are ridiculous, anybody who has the slightest rationale should seek out the answers as they can see that it is religious sectarianism which has been created to keep us arguing against one and other when in fact we shouldpull in one direction, fuck off the controlling elite and party like mutha fuckers.

[seeker1111]

well obviously, but it is never going to stop me ridiculing religious beliefs or blind faith because they are ridiculous, anybody who has the slightest rationale should seek out the answers as they can see that it is religious sectarianism which has been created to keep us arguing against one and other when in fact we shouldpull in one direction, fuck off the controlling elite and party like mutha fuckers.


alrighty then, ridicule all you want. that's one way of making your point I suppose, perhaps not the most effective though if you are trying to change the minds of those you are ridiculing, which I assume you are, otherwise what's the point

[talkingchimp]

i dont want to change anyones mind, thats their business, this is a forum for exposing thoughts is it not? im not hear to indoctrinate or to please or to pussyfoot politically correctly. what i will do is speak what i consider to be the truth. people may judge me all they want but it means nothing to me. in the words of the late great brian clough 'i say what ilike, and i like what i bloody well say'

[seeker1111]

i dont want to change anyones mind, thats their business, this is a forum for exposing thoughts is it not? im not hear to indoctrinate or to please or to pussyfoot politically correctly. what i will do is speak what i consider to be the truth. people may judge me all they want but it means nothing to me. in the words of the late great brian clough 'i say what ilike, and i like what i bloody well say'

Alrighty then. Perhaps it would be better to start a thread stating your opinions where they can be discussed, instead of targeting other forum members?

Just a thought, obviously though, you are at will to discuss anything you please in any way you wish.

[talkingchimp]

Alrighty then. Perhaps it would be better to start a thread stating your opinions where they can be discussed, instead of targeting other forum members?

Just a thought, obviously though, you are at will to discuss anything you please in any way you wish.

well as your entitled to post your thoughts i am also entitled to post mine. and if i were targetting a member i wouldnt do it through the forum id hack their ip address find out where they live and order 20 tons of horse shit to be dumped on there front lawn. all im doing is being clear about what i think, i dont pussyfoot about things i feel very strongly about.

[seeker1111]

you see, what youve done is made an assumption, which is clearly incorrect. i havent targetted anybody, we were discussing something else on another thread which was relevant to me here so i posted it tomake a point. isnt that the point of the forum!! why does everyone want to police everyone else these days? you mean it may be better for you because its obviously you who has the issue so what is your issue? you dontlike people speaking or stating their mind to other people?? are you the fucking thought police or the gestapo????? cant amethyst respond for him/herself?

Hmm... a bit defensive?

First, I have no wish to 'police' anyone as you so delicately put it. And to say that EVERYONE wants to do it is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I was simply stating my perspective on the situation and if it was 'wrong' then so be it.

Of course you can discuss whatever you wish on this forum, however it just seemed to me that it was completely unrelated to the topic at hand and I do apologize if I was not 'policing' your other posts in regard to the matter at hand in order to beter educate myself on this situation.

I'm not sure what issue I have that you are accussing me of. I merely 'suggested' that it might be a better idea to start a new thread regarding the subject you are on about with amethyst, as it 'appeared' to me that your responses were coming from left field.

And of course amethyst can respond for him/herself, however even you must agree that it's entirely acceptable for me to chime in if I wish.

I also have no problem with people stating their mind, I only 'personally' wish that we could respect each other's opinions without 'ridiculing' them for what they believe to be true from their perspective.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

if i were targetting a member i wouldnt do it through the forum id hack their ip address find out where they live and order 20 tons of horse shit to be dumped on there front lawn.

Hack their IP address, and find out where they live? You've been watching to many 'Wargames' type films. ;)

It's good to have frank discussions, but people shouldn't take it to a personal level... :)

Amethyst is a lady by the way. :D

[talkingchimp]

Hack their IP address, and find out where they live? You've been watching to many 'Wargames' type films. ;)

It's good to have frank discussions, but people shouldn't take it to a personal level... :)

Amethyst is a lady by the way. :D

it was merely a point to make a point. agreed it was a little over the top.

[talkingchimp]

Hmm... a bit defensive?

First, I have no wish to 'police' anyone as you so delicately put it. And to say that EVERYONE wants to do it is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I was simply stating my perspective on the situation and if it was 'wrong' then so be it.

Of course you can discuss whatever you wish on this forum, however it just seemed to me that it was completely unrelated to the topic at hand and I do apologize if I was not 'policing' your other posts in regard to the matter at hand in order to beter educate myself on this situation.

I'm not sure what issue I have that you are accussing me of. I merely 'suggested' that it might be a better idea to start a new thread regarding the subject you are on about with amethyst, as it 'appeared' to me that your responses were coming from left field.

And of course amethyst can respond for him/herself, however even you must agree that it's entirely acceptable for me to chime in if I wish.

I also have no problem with people stating their mind, I only 'personally' wish that we could respect each other's opinions without 'ridiculing' them for what they believe to be true from their perspective.

read the link again.

[talkingchimp]

Hmm... a bit defensive?

First, I have no wish to 'police' anyone as you so delicately put it. And to say that EVERYONE wants to do it is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I was simply stating my perspective on the situation and if it was 'wrong' then so be it.

Of course you can discuss whatever you wish on this forum, however it just seemed to me that it was completely unrelated to the topic at hand and I do apologize if I was not 'policing' your other posts in regard to the matter at hand in order to beter educate myself on this situation.

I'm not sure what issue I have that you are accussing me of. I merely 'suggested' that it might be a better idea to start a new thread regarding the subject you are on about with amethyst, as it 'appeared' to me that your responses were coming from left field.

And of course amethyst can respond for him/herself, however even you must agree that it's entirely acceptable for me to chime in if I wish.

I also have no problem with people stating their mind, I only 'personally' wish that we could respect each other's opinions without 'ridiculing' them for what they believe to be true from their perspective.

ou were policing me. plain and simple, u were suggesting i should do this, or shouldnt say that, that in my book is gestapo tactics.

[amethyst]

Hmm... a bit defensive?

First, I have no wish to 'police' anyone as you so delicately put it. And to say that EVERYONE wants to do it is a bit far fetched in my opinion. I was simply stating my perspective on the situation and if it was 'wrong' then so be it.

Of course you can discuss whatever you wish on this forum, however it just seemed to me that it was completely unrelated to the topic at hand and I do apologize if I was not 'policing' your other posts in regard to the matter at hand in order to beter educate myself on this situation.

I'm not sure what issue I have that you are accussing me of. I merely 'suggested' that it might be a better idea to start a new thread regarding the subject you are on about with amethyst, as it 'appeared' to me that your responses were coming from left field.

And of course amethyst can respond for him/herself, however even you must agree that it's entirely acceptable for me to chime in if I wish.

I also have no problem with people stating their mind, I only 'personally' wish that we could respect each other's opinions without 'ridiculing' them for what they believe to be true from their perspective.

My response? I'm enjoying the show ;)

But I do agree with him/her about "religion".

Religion never changed anyone.

[amethyst]

Amethyst is a lady by the way.

Why, thank you Winston! :D Kisses!

[seeker1111]

ou were policing me. plain and simple, u were suggesting i should do this, or shouldnt say that, that in my book is gestapo tactics.

I see, so we should never make a suggestion to anyone regarding what they should or should not do, ever? Even if it is merely that, a suggestion without plan to implement or enforce, and done respectfully?

Haha...gestapo...now you 'appear' to be making assumptions about me.

So first you get upset at me for making an assumption about you but it's OK for you to make assumptions about me.

A double standard exists me thinks.

Anyhow, I don't think there's any point in discussing this further, from my side anyways, as we've both made our points and in the end, I respect your opinion.

[talkingchimp]

I see, so we should never make a suggestion to anyone regarding what they should or should not do, ever? Even if it is merely that, a suggestion without plan to implement or enforce, and done respectfully?

Haha...gestapo...now you 'appear' to be making assumptions about me.

So first you get upset at me for making an assumption about you but it's OK for you to make assumptions about me.

A double standard exists me thinks.

Anyhow, I don't think there's any point in discussing this further, from my side anyways, as we've both made our points and in the end, I respect your opinion.

your hypocrisy is unbelievable. firstly you chime in telling me what i should or shouldnt say or that i should start a new thread. who the fuck are you to me? i couldnt give a pigs fuck about your opinion because i consider it worthless just like the bilge spewing from your lips. secondly you then have the temerity to suggest im being defensive. i am being defensive because of you, you interfering hag.

[krakhead]

your hypocrisy is unbelievable. firstly you chime in telling me what i should or shouldnt say or that i should start a new thread. who the fuck are you to me? i couldnt give a pigs fuck about your opinion because i consider it worthless just like the bilge spewing from your lips. secondly you then have the temerity to suggest im being defensive. i am being defensive because of you, you interfering hag.

Maybe you should have a cup of hot chocolate and a lie down?

[seeker1111]

your hypocrisy is unbelievable. firstly you chime in telling me what i should or shouldnt say or that i should start a new thread. who the fuck are you to me? i couldnt give a pigs fuck about your opinion because i consider it worthless just like the bilge spewing from your lips. secondly you then have the temerity to suggest im being defensive. i am being defensive because of you, you interfering hag.

Hmmm...just to recap. These are the only two things I 'suggested' to you. I am really rather suprised at the chord it 'appears' to have struck with you. I admit I may have been wrong in my assumption about you being condescending, but I certainly think that in regards to your last post I am spot on, however, I could be wrong again there too.


Hey talkingchimp, no need to be condescending. We all see things the way we see them and as long as we're not harming anyone else then that is our business.

Just my two cents.

and

Alrighty then. Perhaps it would be better to start a thread stating your opinions where they can be discussed, instead of targeting other forum members?
Just a thought, obviously though, you are at will to discuss anything you please in any way you wish.


As for the being defensive part, I put that in the form of a question, not a statement.
Hmm... a bit defensive?

Also, thanks for that wonderful display of character and colorful language. I was almost offended. :D I'm afraid the only 'bilge' being spewed is in your responses.

About the coffee, careful krakhead, he/she doesn't 'appear' to take to suggestions very well...just so you know...

[i_am]

Can we please stay on topic rather than exchanging insults otherwise this thread is going downstairs real quick!

[seeker1111]

Can we please stay on topic rather than exchanging insults otherwise this thread is going downstairs real quick!

Of course! :)

I don't believe I have exchanged any insults. Only responded politely to the ones being hurled at me.

Thanks for getting this back on topic.

[steevo]

Christian Bale plays Batman in that too and he does it very very well.
The movie is great. It has real messages in it about fighting fear and corruption and how fear is used to manipulate us into fighting and hating each other. The film has major similarities to how our countries are being destroyed today. Gotham City seems to be a relica of our cities in real life in the way they are run.

Christian Bale's dad IN REAL LIFE was most likely, in my opinion, killed by the CIA. And Batman's dad was killed too. "Batman Begins" is about how he became Batman and one main reason is because his father (and mother) was killed.

I havent seen the new Batman film called "The Dark Knight" yet but I will go see it soon. I think that when Heath Ledger died in very suspicious circumstances, Christian Bale cannot have failed to have thought about his father and how his father's new wife worked for the CIA.