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luten2012
19-07-2008, 10:13 AM
Hi everybody, I love being awake - wouldn't have it any other way...But, hear me out for a second..or rather read me out! :D

Is anyone else just sick of all this stuff that we are all aware of on here? - Sick of it, completely sick of it all??! - I am - Or at least, at the moment I am. Let me explain:

The Illuminati, and through the many secret societies they operate in, through all the media coperations they own, through all the food companies they own - Everything! - They have a strict plan in which they are following. An agenda to which they are all adhering to..And it's working pretty damn well. So far so good for them anyway.

The polarity of that is US...We are aware of their existance but do we have a plan? do we meet up in large meetings and discuss what needs to be done in the future? - No. Most of the time when we talk about this stuff around the people in our lives they think we are nuts!

What do we do? - All we do is talk. Talk and talk and talk and talk to each other about this stuff...and whats amazing is we even argue among ourselves about the Global conspiracy!! - which in turn, just fits one of the illuminati's plans - Keep them fighting among themselves whilst they police all of us.

It's getting ridiculous! You might say that by protesting people are doing something about it...While I admire people who stand up for the cause and stand outside for days on end protesting...I have a news flash for you **IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE..ANYTHING** - Sure, it might make a few passers by a bit more aware of this stuff and influence them to go and so some research about it...but if anything it makes it worse. The media will broadcast a protest giving the perception to the masses that the people protesting are complete nutters! Which also gives the cause they are protesting an irrational, "ridiculous conspiracy" image.

You might also say by going to a David Icke talk is in effect a large meeting of like-minded people that are doing something about it. Well, I've been to David's talks and I love them..But, what is it? - A talk..and nothing more..all we're doing is talking about it again..Nothing is changing - only the level of awareness which I think quite frankly, the illuminati don't care about anyway. They don't care at all how many more people have woken up - because they'll always be alot more people asleep to bow down to their chain of command..and plus, if the rumours are true that they want to decrease the human population then we're making ourselves prime targets!!

I'm not having a go at ayone. I am also at fault to what I'm saying here. To summarise..Talking about this stuff is great, but what else is there?

mercuryrapids
19-07-2008, 10:17 AM
Yep, I'm sick of it and sometimes absolutely terrified, especially when I think of my son and my brother's and sister's kids and all the other children in the world and what kind of a planet they'll have thrust upon them.:(

edit:

Oh, and talking and spreading the word is good, because the more people are aware of what's going on, the better. Unfortunately, humankind has been under the thumb of these b*****s for so long that we have an ingrained mindset about who should govern (them) and who should be subservient (us). Hopefully this will change, but I just hope it will change in time.

planetsadhana
19-07-2008, 10:29 AM
Its a big dilemma allright:confused:, In my opinion a raising of consciousness by a certain amount of people, going by the theory of thoughts of love and positivity by a large amount of people will manifest in the "real" world

How this will happen or when i dont know but we have to believe it will, I think being aware is the biggest step, and taking the peacefull non cooperation view as well.

skyline
19-07-2008, 10:49 AM
Hi everybody, I love being awake - wouldn't have it any other way...But, hear me out for a second..or rather read me out! :D

Is anyone else just sick of all this stuff that we are all aware of on here? - Sick of it, completely sick of it all??! - I am - Or at least, at the moment I am. Let me explain:

The Illuminati, and through the many secret societies they operate in, through all the media coperations they own, through all the food companies they own - Everything! - They have a strict plan in which they are following. An agenda to which they are all adhering to..And it's working pretty damn well. So far so good for them anyway.

The polarity of that is US...We are aware of their existance but do we have a plan? do we meet up in large meetings and discuss what needs to be done in the future? - No. Most of the time when we talk about this stuff around the people in our lives they think we are nuts!

What do we do? - All we do is talk. Talk and talk and talk and talk to each other about this stuff...and whats amazing is we even argue among ourselves about the Global conspiracy!! - which in turn, just fits one of the illuminati's plans - Keep them fighting among themselves whilst they police all of us.

It's getting ridiculous! You might say that by protesting people are doing something about it...While I admire people who stand up for the cause and stand outside for days on end protesting...I have a news flash for you **IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE..ANYTHING** - Sure, it might make a few passers by a bit more aware of this stuff and influence them to go and so some research about it...but if anything it makes it worse. The media will broadcast a protest giving the perception to the masses that the people protesting are complete nutters! Which also gives the cause they are protesting an irrational, "ridiculous conspiracy" image.

You might also say by going to a David Icke talk is in effect a large meeting of like-minded people that are doing something about it. Well, I've been to David's talks and I love them..But, what is it? - A talk..and nothing more..all we're doing is talking about it again..Nothing is changing - only the level of awareness which I think quite frankly, the illuminati don't care about anyway. They don't care at all how many more people have woken up - because they'll always be alot more people asleep to bow down to their chain of command..and plus, if the rumours are true that they want to decrease the human population then we're making ourselves prime targets!!

I'm not having a go at ayone. I am also at fault to what I'm saying here. To summarise..Talking about this stuff is great, but what else is there?

its a good point you raise and time is not on our side.Do we sit and wait for the day when they come knocking and then think oh shit wish I did more.

If people dont see the agenda now then in my opinion they never will or they choose not to see it

The elite dont give two hoots about our welfare we all know that and they bombard us with crap daily, poison our children and our minds and we talk a lot

The protests we sometimes see make zero difference,how many millions marched against the war in Iraq and the outcome was?The millions should of camped out in London and stayed there and this should of been worldwide

Whatever we do it needs to be in numbers and sustained,20 people with signs is no match for the elite its like a penguin in a cage fight with a Rhino

planetsadhana
19-07-2008, 11:00 AM
come on the penguins:D

epsom
19-07-2008, 11:05 AM
luten2012,


Answer to your question:

YES!!!!

And well put.

llogun
19-07-2008, 12:40 PM
I agree time is running out fast. David icke said it all in is talk in hull we have got to get off are arse and do something. I know things are happing within the foarm meetings and leaflets and thats good but probley a bit more than that needs to be done. I know we all talk on the foarm but do we feel united as a group of people. united we stand devided we fall. If it all went tits up tom were would we be as a group of people. Do we know how to contact eachover if it did tom so we could be united and still show the world where the truth is. Example when theres a big talk such as david icke talks, most people have seen 1000s of people and dont talk to eachover shyness if you know what i mean and walk away from hardly knowing anyone and here we are with most people having the same thing in common. I think it would be a good idea for every one to break the ice with eachover with as many people that you can on that day and get to know eachover propley and even more than that. Iknow there is loads of other things we should all be doing but this is just one way in my opinion how to break the ice with eachover so we can stand together and make a diffrance

littlemisspunkyfish
19-07-2008, 01:36 PM
i feel like i need to do something, but im afraid i dont know where to start!
people tell me i just need to let it wash over me and accept the inevitable! - to a degree, taking that attitude has helped me deal with it, as i cant let this stuff rule my life but..
im sure they would soon change their opinion if the truth hit them on the head (which i believe it soon will).
I went to the David Icke talk in Hull and because i'm new to it, i didnt meet anyone as i was a bit shy! - Maybe, we need to all meet up within our districts (Yorkshire, Midlands, etc) and simultaneously let off them balloons!/ if anyone happens to have a plane then we could drop the leaflets aswell!
At the same time, we need to be discreet about who we are as somebody somewhere isnt going to like it (if you get my paranoid drift!;)
Although i enjoy reading the threads, we need to thread less and do MORE.. and start doing NOW!
Maybe taking surveys in town centres, on peoples opinions regarding their rights and then sending the results to the relevant council?? Im sure most areas of the UK could be covered?

sorath
19-07-2008, 01:42 PM
I am not a defeatist at all but I do think that when it comes to this one we are kind of fucked already. it reminds me of the statistic I once heard from a scientist about global warming. If we stopped using gas, oil and all other harmful substances TODAY it would still take 50 years for anything to take a positive effect.

I think that even if half the population of the world were to suddenly wake up it would still not be enough. How many of you have spent years of your lives gradually waking up to the truth. We all know that the conspiracy is so fucking large that to explain it all would just boggle most peoples minds. If for instance a mass wake up did happen then I think the illuminati have that covered aswell. I would love to be more optimistic about this but I really do think we are way past the point of return with this one and the only thing to do is enjoy the ride.

phonicboom
19-07-2008, 01:51 PM
I can live in complete personal happiness but most of the world do not; The oppressed and the "Elite" are both under the spell of this Illusion. The Elite under the mental spell that they have an agenda that matters, and the Oppressed under the physical spell of that.

"We" are the spiritually awake and we take time to feel for the oppressed and the "Elite" and how that oppression could spread to a state of temporary (perhaps very long) ruin - What we have to do is awaken the population and the Elite - not to conspiracy or our awareness of it, but instead to spiritual awakenness.

We can offer this to those under the spell and those casting it.

Wouldn't the oppressive "Elite" be better off if they too were awake? They can't learn this from themselves or their history, they can only learn by our example. They apparrently are awake or are unable to relate to human compassion, well that does not mean that true enlightenment would do them no good.

Should the End be to have control over humanity then we can show how it is mastered, not by force and oppression but by openness. When more of us are just living with only that we can know directly, none of these "facts" or stories or beliefs, but with only knowledge of obtained directly from within, no taint of outside, then that sets an example to all - we can win this by living what we know and spending less time holding up the illusion.

Yeah it's fun speculating and going here and there, but it is all part of the illusion. The most powerful awakening tool is meeting someone who is awake - so set that example. We can't tell people what to think (if it were possible then the "Elites" job would have been over years ago, they are working slowly at it) so instead of trying the impossible of awakening people with "fact" and force we just lead the way - living awake and showing how it is possible, with just a change in perception, to be awake - and by that example the rest can, and will, follow.

drhemp
19-07-2008, 02:10 PM
We have to carry on waking people up. Now is the best time to do this, we are in recession, the inflation figures are being fiddled, everyone knows that prices have gone through the roof and the official figure of 3.5% is a lie. The good times are over and it really is getting harder and harder for average working families to make ends meet, so now is the time people will be most willing to accept these truths.

Other than that; a revolution; I'm up for it!

littlemisspunkyfish
19-07-2008, 02:19 PM
ive been shocked this week at how a friend of mine (who i thought would be one of the last to 'wake up') has been thinking about whats really goin on. I told her some of my opinions on whats happened/happening. At the very least this has made her think so much that she came back at me with an idea.
Bongo....that text service (aimed at teenagers) where you register (for £1.50) send in any name you like and it will send back random facts about them for fun...
for example: you text in ....John Smith
it will send back...John hates cooking but Jane thinks he is a great dancer. Thing is...she told me that her proverbial John DOES have a girlfriend called Jane..and how do they know that!? it freaked her out! and now shes asking more questions...hmmmm
i believe in hope. and i think i can feel people waking up. acceptance is a slow process tho:)
x

largejack
19-07-2008, 02:19 PM
I agree time is running out fast. David icke said it all in is talk in hull we have got to get off are arse and do something. I know things are happing within the foarm meetings and leaflets and thats good but probley a bit more than that needs to be done. I know we all talk on the foarm but do we feel united as a group of people. united we stand devided we fall. If it all went tits up tom were would we be as a group of people. Do we know how to contact eachover if it did tom so we could be united and still show the world where the truth is. Example when theres a big talk such as david icke talks, most people have seen 1000s of people and dont talk to eachover shyness if you know what i mean and walk away from hardly knowing anyone and here we are with most people having the same thing in common. I think it would be a good idea for every one to break the ice with eachover with as many people that you can on that day and get to know eachover propley and even more than that. Iknow there is loads of other things we should all be doing but this is just one way in my opinion how to break the ice with eachover so we can stand together and make a diffrance


Totally agree with that:)

Procrastination is our worst enemy. Everyone on this forum needs to post 100 flyers at least through peoples' doors

the itinerant shrubber
19-07-2008, 05:01 PM
I'm not sick of it;more resigned to it if anything. Most of what is discussed doesnt worry me for the simple fact that I simply wont go along with it.
If I leave them alone and they leave me alone then I'm happy. People that are worried about ID cards etc. are only worried becouse deep down they are unsure whether they will have the mettle to refuse and disobey and suffer the consequences.
If The Man bangs on my door and threatens me then I shall retaliate.If he threatens my family then I'll take his life.I'm not a citizen or a slave or a subject and I've never pretended to be civilized. I am a savage.
We're all born of war and we're all descended from men and women who charged and slaughtered entire Roman legions. It's time we all started to remember that and honour our ancestors and our heritage and remember who we are and where we come from.
I know who I am and I'm ready to fucking slay these sons-of-bitches.:mad:

mountain
19-07-2008, 05:05 PM
Yes you have properly expressed the very way I feel.... Yep.

astro zombie
19-07-2008, 05:12 PM
I am not a defeatist at all but I do think that when it comes to this one we are kind of fucked already. it reminds me of the statistic I once heard from a scientist about global warming. If we stopped using gas, oil and all other harmful substances TODAY it would still take 50 years for anything to take a positive effect.

I think that even if half the population of the world were to suddenly wake up it would still not be enough. How many of you have spent years of your lives gradually waking up to the truth. We all know that the conspiracy is so fucking large that to explain it all would just boggle most peoples minds. If for instance a mass wake up did happen then I think the illuminati have that covered aswell. I would love to be more optimistic about this but I really do think we are way past the point of return with this one and the only thing to do is enjoy the ride.

I agree with what your saying here. Were fucked.:D

uloodara
19-07-2008, 05:24 PM
Well if u think we're fucked then we got nothing to lose trying!

Personally im peaceful and always smiling but this is just annoying. The way people dont understand (parents) and when they do they just forget about it the next day or dont do anything. :mad: The majority of us are just slaves...working so we get some food (which is GM anyways or has some ingredient we dont know about in) and are allowed to survive. I like the leaflet idea...if anyone is handy with photoshop we could design a few different ones and everyone should hand them out. This thread is a powerful idea, we should keep it open with people posting about how they are helping fight tptb. We could also arrange group meetings ect.

peace

tom bombadil
19-07-2008, 05:38 PM
Ee oop. Do y'all remember that scene from the 'Life of Brian'? The bit when they (Peoples ect ) all decide to take action and sit discusing it for too long?

Well that is what I see here! Sorry.

If this group of folk are like minded and want to do summit then I sugest a section in the main forum that tells of future events, and of those with the gaul to organise others to act.

The last bit would direct others that are intrested to personal sites.

Wad'ya think?

Tom.

uloodara
19-07-2008, 05:39 PM
hmmm...well what else have u got in mind :confused:

forward emails?

tom bombadil
19-07-2008, 06:07 PM
Was that for me uloodara? or did we post at the same time?

kblood
19-07-2008, 06:11 PM
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.php#companies

Heres something that can be done for one. These companies are direct money sources for the Illuminati.

Some people make it their life to spread the truth about what is going on in the world, who is controlling it and how. Like David Icke.

Take a look at:

http://www.bilderberg.org/

Tony Gosling is a journalist who works freelance because its hard to do the work he wants to do with the Rothschilds controlling the media. He talks about how they pick out the editors of all magasines, newspapers, radio and TV news. At least that is how I understood it. If an editor doesnt follow the consensus, then he or she wont have an easy time. So they have to keep their journalists in line and their focus in the right direction. Only letting the truths and lies they allow to be published.

steevo
19-07-2008, 06:22 PM
Just when you think all is lost and that there is no point in continuing this struggle, the yearning to be free will ALWAYS come back to you. I for one have seen freedom and freedom is truly beautiful. You cant give up the fight once youve seen it IMO. Our kids have NEVER seen freedom, so maybe they will never miss it I dont know. So it's up to us who have seen RELATIVE freedom to "fight" to get it back again. Maybe this is our last chance ?

the itinerant shrubber
19-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Ee oop. Do y'all remember that scene from the 'Life of Brian'? The bit when they (Peoples ect ) all decide to take action and sit discusing it for too long?

Well that is what I see here! Sorry.

If this group of folk are like minded and want to do summit then I sugest a section in the main forum that tells of future events, and of those with the gaul to organise others to act.

The last bit would direct others that are intrested to personal sites.

Wad'ya think?

Tom.

I propose an emergency meeting immediately! All those in favour of an emergency meeting say aye!

disorder2k8
19-07-2008, 06:45 PM
I agree with OP, I have made numerous rants about everone 'talking' instead of 'doing', I'm a real big hypcrite with that too, but then I feel the thought we all have is: shall I go for it on my own and look like a nutjob, or wait until everone is out there and then join them?

You gotta think of it like this: We're a rabbit caught in a cars headlights, in the middle of a 3 lane motorway, we can stay still and get crushed, or risk moving to either side and get crushed and if we're very lucky we might just be able to hop under all the cars, missing the wheels and be safe on the sidelines, but we have to take the chance.

steevo
19-07-2008, 06:54 PM
Ridicule (or the fear of it) seems to hold alot of us back from passing on this info.

littlemisspunkyfish
19-07-2008, 06:57 PM
bottom line is we HAVE to do SOMETHING!

lets meet up quick...before it becomes illegal!!
i say "Aye"
x

the itinerant shrubber
19-07-2008, 07:01 PM
bottom line is we HAVE to do SOMETHING!

lets meet up quick...before it becomes illegal!!
i say "Aye"
x

Who's going to take the minutes? My handwriting is rubbish btw.

littlemisspunkyfish
19-07-2008, 07:02 PM
hand goes up -"Can I sir?? pleaaase?""- i have nice writing!

tom bombadil
19-07-2008, 07:13 PM
I still think that a part in the main forum is a good place to start.

Otherwise we have to first say who we are on the net (not good).

Then where we live.

Then what our true wants are.

All no good on the net.


If however we just are alowed to post of events and meeting dates. Then it would be a start.

Then those of us with the balls to set up their own meeting can post that too.


Tom.

the itinerant shrubber
19-07-2008, 07:15 PM
hand goes up -"Can I sir?? pleaaase?""- i have nice writing!

Right! What about refreshments? Any preferences as far as biscuits are concerned?

disorder2k8
19-07-2008, 07:18 PM
im not preparing to move anywhere right now, i have to look after friends and family if anything happens. but after that we need a neutral meeting point of sorts (for UK members) so I'm suggesting somewhere in the middle of the country roughly, with small town or village (or cluster thereof) and a bunch of fields and trees. Yorkshire dales possibly lake district way looks good. (kettlewell?)

littlemisspunkyfish
19-07-2008, 07:22 PM
haha, i do have my favourites....yes;) and i dooo love a cuppa!! minor details tho eh?

as for meeting im new here..and have some questions.
1. is there any planned already (for soon)?
2. is there anything we can do at a meeting/as a result of a meeting, that we cant do already?
3.are we in danger of scaremongering?

littlemisspunkyfish
19-07-2008, 07:25 PM
Yorkshire Dales sounds good for me or Lakes and it sounds fair...in the event that we all lose the internet/site ...what do we do?
this feels important that we do it soon.

edelweiss pirate
19-07-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm not having a go at ayone. I am also at fault to what I'm saying here. To summarise..Talking about this stuff is great, but what else is there?

Magic!

Infinite potential, infinite consciousness....

That's my angle. I tap into the matrix by using my mind and I modify it.

We all modify the matrix directly with our thoughts, or rather our thoughts modify us and our ranking or place in the matrix, which is almost the same thing.

So do mind excercises, meditations, visualisations, seek after true awareness of what is manifesting around you.

And maybe do some meetings. Good idea.

haribohero
19-07-2008, 07:35 PM
I'm in,if anyone is going to organise it thn I'd like to be on any pm list.

One thing though, i would be surprised if most of our real identities were not already known,it can't be that difficult for them. Unless you all only surf at cafes etc or always proxy?

I wanted to do this but never got round to it and am quite sure if anyone watching wants to know thy already know who HH is !!

HH

the itinerant shrubber
19-07-2008, 07:37 PM
haha, i do have my favourites....yes;) and i dooo love a cuppa!! minor details tho eh?

as for meeting im new here..and have some questions.
1. is there any planned already (for soon)?
2. is there anything we can do at a meeting/as a result of a meeting, that we cant do already?
3.are we in danger of scaremongering?

I reiterate point 2. Why will meeting in RL be any better than the internet? And what would be the desirable outcome? We storm parliament? I would but I've got this old knee injury you see...

uloodara
19-07-2008, 09:00 PM
Was that for me uloodara? or did we post at the same time?

lol i think we posted at the same time

Im liking the ideas people...
I dout i'd be able to go any meetings (as i have no form of transport and im too young to get a car) but its a great idea and its good that we're doing something :D

More and more people are having douts about society as they know it. So I feel we need to wake people up..i know people who have only known about these things for a few weeks...so there still is a lot of hope!

Pce

mari
19-07-2008, 10:14 PM
I believe that by 'being the change' you want to see, you affect those you come into contact with. One person - by being & thinking for themselves, ie not being part of the hive, gives 'permission' for another to be as authentic.
In turn, they pass this on........
Shouting out 'the truth' to all & sundry works only on the emotional level, so you get the ego responses ; anger, disbelief, increduilty, hopelessness & helplessness. This all goes into the conciousness field & people absorb it, only adding to the chaos 'stew'
By being an example - being utterly true to yourself & living by peacful non-cooperation to those who would have it otherwise, do you truly help to turn things around. The 'fear' (deliberately planted) that seems to be all around us now is only the result of what a lot of people have 'brought into'. The conciousness field is saturated with it.
The road to freedom IMHO, is to deliberately disengage from 'fear' & shun anything which feeds it. Start to think for yourself

lakkimakki
19-07-2008, 10:21 PM
yeah i was sick of it all , then being sick got boring , then being bored got boring ...:)

lightgiver
19-07-2008, 11:26 PM
Yeah sick to the guts,and life now feels like ONE BIG LIE,i do not believe anything now what as been told to me and the historical crap we have been led to believe throughout our life's,we have all been perpetually lied to,religion,politics,economy,media,all of it complete and utter bullshit:mad::rolleyes:it is one big sick game of the elites who keep us all grounded so they keep in control of there wealth and power,and keep us bound in the prison of illusion,so even though i feel sick to the guts,i feel a kind of liberation at the same time, through knowing the truth of what as been exposed by some kind people,who have showed us what the hell is going on,so i am glad in one way that i know.So when the brainwashed drone tries to stamp on my face,i will tell them,try it and see what happens,because thats the last time you will try and stamp on anybodys face,and watch out you illuminati elites and puppets,cause we are comin for YOU:mad::p

dangermouse
19-07-2008, 11:41 PM
I get sick of it all in a way. I am sick of most people I know being completely brainwashed and manipulated by the mainstream media. I think I am getting through to my parents slowly but surely. But some of my friends are so brainwashed it makes me sad. I didn't start waking up till about this time last year or a little after. I mean now to me it seems so clear, yet what we need to remember is that we too had a lot of these misconceptions before we got woken up. I just happened upon this info while looking up UFOs which now I hardly look at. My whole world has changed in 12 months and yes its hard but I will keep my head up and keep saying what I believe. I get ridiculed less than I expected but I still get ridiculed and it makes me sad because all I want to do is inform people of whats really going on ...

mentalogirl
19-07-2008, 11:57 PM
Couldn't agree more,I am also sick of it.

When I started to become aware of what's going on I got depressed and anguished,like there's no way out - I felt distrustful.After a while I stopped coming to this forum or reading too much about it all,because it seems these people are much stronger than us and I want to be happy,not anguished.
Now I feel sort of relaxed about it,whilst still aware of things - but not allowing them to bring me down.
There's something really great that David Icke says at the end of his new book,can't remember the right words,but it's something along the lines of not trying to fight on the same level of consciousness as the Illuminati becuase this type of fight we can never win.
I think it's about becoming aware,without any morality to it,but also raising our vibrations.:)

paradox
20-07-2008, 12:00 AM
Yes its a complete piss take all the information.

Its like theres a big illusion which included loads of smaller illusions.. we have to break down herdles like time.

We dont know if we are making the right choices.. its like our lives are spread out like butter and our whole choices are chosen for us like walking a labyrinth with only one path.

Hopefully we are all in totall recall or something and we can escape it once average jo tech catches up..up till 2012!!

Hopefully technology will be that advanced you can change your whole life and live forever.

One thing we need to stop doing is concertrating on what happening in this massive illusion and just try and become totally self sufficient.

The system feeds us everything and we feed it by doing so.......


When you go through the door are you going out or comming in?

Does the outside welcome you inside?

When you return do you come from inside the outside?

paradox
20-07-2008, 12:14 AM
I get sick of it all in a way. I am sick of most people I know being completely brainwashed and manipulated by the mainstream media. I think I am getting through to my parents slowly but surely. But some of my friends are so brainwashed it makes me sad. I didn't start waking up till about this time last year or a little after. I mean now to me it seems so clear, yet what we need to remember is that we too had a lot of these misconceptions before we got woken up. I just happened upon this info while looking up UFOs which now I hardly look at. My whole world has changed in 12 months and yes its hard but I will keep my head up and keep saying what I believe. I get ridiculed less than I expected but I still get ridiculed and it makes me sad because all I want to do is inform people of whats really going on ...


Respect brother keep up the good work they will soon begin to belive you!

You are not crazy you are one of the coolest peeps on here man dont let it get you down then they win...

it hard i know but we have got to stay stong and just ignore the system and talk to eachother t

the only think we need is the internet that it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everything else is like ours anyway we live here.

but I meen it all could just be one massive cryptologic neverending constantly encrypted math. and some can manipulate it..........


I think we need to start ignoreing all the little bits off bullshit everywhere and think about the whole situation we have here.

We are talking mass world creation in our minds from machines and a running program that get constantly updated.

I meen all this they would be the work of the system and the computers that run from it US!

All we have to do is take out the badness. and that should make the matrix angry.


THE PLANET IS A PLANE!

THE PLANET IS A PLAN!

come to our chat DM!

noobcybot
20-07-2008, 12:34 AM
Some sound advice from posters here and further musings on the nature of life and reality etc...
I took a break from thinking about this stuff for a while and it was nice, but I ended up getting right back into anyway because its hard not to be reminded of it since it concearns an amazing array of subjects that relate at nearly every level on our lives.
So mate, why not say to yourself " I accept that there is something going on, yet for the moment I will put it out of my mind " and then forget about it. When you feel right about it again. Get into excersise or do some painting, or go out and get wasted, whatever you need.
I think we also have to bear in mind when we get so far into this, there is no going back and we cant forget about it. So we should just accept that fact and remember that it could be worse, we at least have the time available and presence of mind to contemplate this. We arent fighting in desparation for our lives and we dont have to worry where out next meal is going to come from. And in any case situations in life might lead us away from path, both good and bad ones, so why not try enjoying the time spent learning about this, for one we can comprehend the fact that there is life after death in some form, even if it is in a hell dimension or the reptilians have a machine that destroys souls, at least we can see that life does not end after death!
Or maybe if you are looking at satanic blood drinking demons and population culling techniques why not have a look at some more esoteric subjects, or just have a look at the freaks in the mythical creatures thread (the monsters that is.....not the fine totally non-freaky posters).

paradox
20-07-2008, 12:36 AM
Lol I cannot forget about my experiences.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.



I dont really want to waste my time getting stoned and pissed here if I could help it id rather be in another country.

I wont stop till I die and then some hopefully.


I wil do anything to tell others and make a change in this world that IS my fun.

I would like to travel the world eventually and chill out in other places observing life from many perspectives.

izzy
20-07-2008, 12:44 AM
im sick of romas giving me s*** and acting like the forum policeman

paradox
20-07-2008, 12:45 AM
ello IZZY!!!!!<3



Come to Paradoxportal.com and chat with us babe!

izzy
20-07-2008, 12:47 AM
ello IZZY!!!!!<3



Come to Paradoxportal.com and chat with us babe!

i will thank you at least you are nice to me :)

paradox
20-07-2008, 12:49 AM
:):)


I Love You You Are Me I Am You We Are One Tiny Little Bundle Of Love.

deafbred
20-07-2008, 12:49 AM
u guys r still just talking about it...someday the 'buffer' will disappear then u'l see true heros and horrible melon heads...I been waiting for this all my life. the NOW to manifest

indigowarrior
20-07-2008, 01:00 AM
thats funny because i was just thinking what if all we tried to organise ourselves through this forum as awakened ones, to try and do something about the elite/illuminati/annunaki, then this thread coincidently came to the top of the forum.....the shame of it is by our very nature as truth seekers we would be totally paranoid and abrupt with eachother... imagine us all in some meeting room sitting there looking sideways at eachother, we would need a leader then that person would be accused of being one of THEM, oops thats already happened with david icke.
we need to fix up weather its using this dimension or another we need to get something set up and get out of the way of ourselves.:confused:

bendelapidate
20-07-2008, 01:06 AM
I've been sick of it all for at least 7 years. I get fulfilment out of things that don't cost anything and I see life as being increasingly unimportant and even pointless in the grand scheme of things. The rules of the game never really entered into it for me since a very early age - I've always done my own thing and I suspect I always will. It's not easy knowing what you know and just "being". I wish for a state of happiness yet I am accutely aware of the fact that this or any other conditional life can never be perfect. Knowing these two things spurs me on to seek the answer to it all. It still eludes me but every now and then I get a small glimpse. It's this glimpse that keeps me searching.

littlemisspunkyfish
20-07-2008, 01:12 AM
I know this is easy for me to say and I already apologise and dont mean to offend ANYONE.
I can see that alot of people have dedicated their time for all this by doing research and supporting DI in many ways and posters on this forum. Im not aiming this at anyone in particular yet I wish those that have been awake for all this time would have turned up the volume on the alarm clock. (how? - not sure)...we can only do our best.
DI is right in saying...our kids will say, where were you when the fascist state got in?...at this rate my answer will be...on the internet son!
just a thought
x

deafbred
20-07-2008, 01:14 AM
once we break out of the box and rise and walk bringing nothing with us taking up our cross's so to speak...only then will u see the "magnificent" that the freeman report speaks of... - everything will fit together ...you will see the magic of your faith experienced throughout

u can see a little of what the "magnificent" he speaks of in this video here
http://freemantv.artopium.com/video/mayaland.shtml
he also speaks of it in other videos.

THIS IS ALL THAT HAS TO HAPPEN PEOPLE. ABSOLUTLEY. AND YES, IT IS A SCARY THING, BUT ONCE YOU SEE IT FOR YOURSELF>>>YOUR FEAR DISAPPEARS AND WHAT IS MANIFESTED IS POWER ENDLESS

paradox
20-07-2008, 01:14 AM
very well said freind!

It is me!

I have come to help you all and we shall come together as one all we have to do is love one another and make our own groups and connect them together like regional or areas and get as many physical members as possible.

We should set up a full map of regional websites dedicated to our beliefs and actions.


Like a big map of our many website and members.

If your stuckin the same place is like a ramble of disinformation and it just doesnt work.

This is where we come into play, we need loads of new website dedicated to and let the owner ban idiots and stuff.

We need to sort through truth seekers and sheep.

Also remeber with these site we need to be quite secet as to not give away much to the opposition becuase they will use this site to change theri tsctics.



The way I see it:


Theres them and us

some of them are here and some of us are not.

we need to keep them out of our info the same way they do with us.

Use there tactics against them.

We need to filter out them and make more of us.

Come to my site man and we can talk about making something happen.

we need to regroup drastically.

just the good guys and if you get any signs of shit just ban them instantly you know in your hearts and you can tell by there posts.

We want people that are willing to act on behalf of the cuase and group up and rebel and protest and become self sufficient.

deafbred
20-07-2008, 01:19 AM
we don't need the internet or groups or anything like this we just need ourselves to take that action and walk...EVERYTHING else will be taken care of...you will see and find yourselves naturally connecting with people through out the lands...it will just happen like as if it were meant to happen...the spiritual connectivness of the universe that we are all alive in. we need more faith in ourselves and others...thats all it takes.

deafbred
20-07-2008, 01:25 AM
we need people that are willing to throw their computers out the windows and WALK! people that will leave ALL their possesions behind to face THE TRUTH. we got no faith people, in ourselves or others. the love of many has grown so cold even the love for ourselves. Because we fear and what does fear have to do with love...for love casts out fear, if we FEAR we HAVE NOT been perfected in love. Fear expects punishment. The last thing that the true loving "GOD" wants to do is punish you. ......LOVE is all there 'is' anything else is nothingness. Do you trust and abide in the nothingness? or have the little faith it takes to take that leap into a stride that will meet us all up in the places and times when REAL people taking REAL actions makes all the difference we wish to see in the world. The last thing we need is a computer. It just takes you, me, eachother, "us". No one understands this or is willing to confidently become the love u want to see.

deafbred
20-07-2008, 01:32 AM
the internet isn't even REAL...its powered by MANMADE electricity that pollutes the air. its a microcosim of FALSE spectrum. THE REAL POWER is in the electricity that is US. These computers are draining us of our power and distracting us from THE NOW. We are being to busy preoccupied by internet paridigm. Its a false world. You can say yes you are 'changing' the world. But in effect all you are doing is DELAYING the NOW. THe here and now LIVE vibe time of LIFE. You are subdueing your coscience to a tangle hold web of electro bytes of philosphies that are DEAD. Pre-thought PAST recordings of your OLD self that isn't REAL in the moment LIVED in the ~here and now~ .,..even as I write this...I am off in the future somewhere on the time spectrum which truly hold my soul and who I am in the electrified frequency of the here and now experienced LIVE love that no one is raising to REALIZATIONS. o man...Im caught in an internet bubble? We all are? ...being sucked dry of our capable youth in the MEANtime, trying to gain a future 'moment' that is not promised to us. We are truly the living dead. sad. all around. BREAK OUT NOW!

jonb
20-07-2008, 01:40 AM
Shame, on you all, are these the best ideas you can come up with!
It seems to me there are two streams of thought here-
wait about untill I become a more spiritual person.
or
give out leaflets.

A. You have no chance of becoming more spiritual, while you ignore the millions starving, dieing, and suffering now.
B. You all seem more addicted to what the central powers give you, than the harm they are doing to others, as such you have no chance of achiveing anything.
You are all going to wait about until they come for you.

The only way of winning is by suffering, none of you seem to want to put the hard work in, as such unless somebody can show me otherwize this will be my last post.

deafbred
20-07-2008, 02:00 AM
Shame, on you all, are these the best ideas you can come up with!
It seems to me there are two streams of thought here-
wait about untill I become a more spiritual person.
or
give out leaflets.

A. You have no chance of becoming more spiritual, while you ignore the millions starving, dieing, and suffering now.
B. You all seem more addicted to what the central powers give you, than the harm they are doing to others, as such you have no chance of achiveing anything.
You are all going to wait about until they come for you.

The only way of winning is by suffering, none of you seem to want to put the hard work in, as such unless somebody can show me otherwize this will be my last post.

the time isn't right...there is going to have to be some kind of big divide that happens...some kind of chaotic EVENT or something...granted people already are leaving the USA and have...it is going to take a few more pushes from the NWO before a more pronounced baning together takes place or complete submission to the powers that be happens...an awakening forced by being pushed to far over the edge. It never will be 'to LATE' the NOW is ~always, and once urgent times become more fierce...only then will you see...people...leaving their families 'to fight a war' or go out for peace. We can't be so selfish here. To gain is to lose, to lose is to gain. We gata make some sacrifices soon. If not...it won't matter...you will become THEIR sacrifice. One way or the other at some point. That defining point that center cutting division that forces us to be more complete or aloud to drift 'us' further apart.

indigowarrior
20-07-2008, 02:27 AM
being aware of the agendas for many people is a big step, to fully grasp that the whole of conventional human history is complete rubbish, to believe that we are being depopulated and poisoned and mind controlled is a huge step, requiring that by fully knowing this fact will in effect alienate you from society as it will be become intolerable to be around those that are asleep and playing the game.

this in itself is action.
then we do the leaflets.....lol

i educate my 3 children on the reality, whilst still allowing them to succeed within the system, thus the seed of truth is already being sowed.
one of them was born knowing the truth anyway and has educated me on things look up indigo children.


i am a yoga teacher and i empower people through guided meditation and knowing their own light,
we cant play them at their own game as we are not like them , our weakness is our strength and that is our emotions, we have to learn to master our emotions and pour our energy into connecting with our inner light. love is our force, learn what love really is, what it means to you, feel your heart chakra vibrate, then send love to the lot of them.

i send healing to the planet via reiki . if we all do this then it will without doubt make a difference.

the internet is one of our tools, another one is meditation. the shit they have given us to corrupt us has in fact helped us, however we must find other ways.

thelucifer
20-07-2008, 02:51 AM
Seek and expose truth.

Inform yourself and then inform others.

Plant seeds, thats what we can do, thats all we can do.

Be an example via truth.

Be an example via love.



Here are some lyrics for a song I wrote called Beware.


There’s no stopping the pain
wearing me out, driving me insane
its not a matter of, whether or not its fair
beware, it hurts to care

There’s no turning back
way past the point of no return
There’s no way I would
if I could

Don’t bother crying unfair
it hurts to care

Knowledge is bittersweet, a blessing and a curse
the more I know, the more I see
the more the dark truth hurts me
I could never wish to unknow what I know
way past the point of no return
and so I burn

There’s no stopping the pain
wearing me out, driving me insane
way way past the point of no return
and so I burn
it hurts to care
beware.

uloodara
20-07-2008, 03:09 AM
We are all sick of this crap! All of us have taken the red pill and know what it feels like.

Everyone has different views about how we should do things but IMHO theres no right or wrong way. Anything that exposes them benefits us. However, i think there are enough videos on the internet to show a lot of people reality, but they just dont bother looking for them, or when they find them they dont take it seriously. We have done a good job on cyberspace by spreading information, but now its time to put it in practice. We must use every weapon we can.

Its hard to think of a way of spreading the message with out seeming to spread fear. :confused:
We should have as many of us as we can and protest. Camp out or something and while we protest we could discuss ideas, meet each other ect. And also hand leaflets out as we protest :D lol so its a bit of everything.

I'm going to be thinking as i fall asleep today...hopefully some good ideas hit me when i wake up.

One Love!

amberdawn
20-07-2008, 03:35 AM
I think if I quit my job and lived spontaneously at this point I may have some problems. It....doesn't seem like the right time. If only I had a partner in crime, a Clyde type unit to fight the system with me!

deafbred
20-07-2008, 03:55 AM
I lost my job last week. This opens up a lot of time for me. I am thinking of investing my money into a deprivation tank. (Building one) - ...all I relly need is eight hundred pounds of epsom salt

upsetbrit
20-07-2008, 04:43 AM
I'm sick of telling loved ones about our slavery only to be called a nutter. I then jump up and down and say "That's what i'm tryng to tell you!" when they say "Hey there's a Dispatches programme about cancer in the vaccines on TV soon".

I show documents, facts, figures, graphs, videos, testimonies of parents & scientists... all in an attempt to shed light on aspects of the grand conspiracy we live in, but it's hard work, since the propaganda machine has been working on the sheep for years and years.

Reminds me of that part in The Abyss.

"You think everything's a conspiracy!"
"Everything is!"

However, am i so sick of it that i wish i could be a sheep again myself? Certainly not! I'm glad that i know the truth, or at least enough of it to recognise who the enemies of my family are.

upsetbrit
20-07-2008, 04:47 AM
I lost my job last week. This opens up a lot of time for me. I am thinking of investing my money into a deprivation tank. (Building one) - ...all I relly need is eight hundred pounds of epsom salt

Sorry to hear that.

Last time i had Epsom Salt, i put it in the office sugar bowl and kettle. Three people took the next day off with the shits... :D
Well, they deserved it. They deliberately ran the company into the ground and took us (and hundreds of thousands of pounds) with it.

disorder2k8
20-07-2008, 08:43 AM
I came up with the meeting outpost because we need a place for us likeminded people who want to start again in the aftertime when commincations are down and massive EMP's have knocked out power etc, not immediately. I also chose somewhere away from the major cities, because most likely they will be closed off and monitored by loads of CCTV and cops (think judge dread megacities)

As for transport, Just walk there if you dont have a car. If you're living out in the woods because something happened to your house, then you have nothing to lose. If anyone has seen the film 28 days later where they head to manchester etc, this is the same deal. Staying on our own will be harder, if nobody wants to help/contribute you're gonna be just in it for yourself, and a 1 man army might work in computer games maybe, but not in RL!

the itinerant shrubber
20-07-2008, 10:00 AM
I believe that by 'being the change' you want to see, you affect those you come into contact with. One person - by being & thinking for themselves, ie not being part of the hive, gives 'permission' for another to be as authentic.
In turn, they pass this on........
Shouting out 'the truth' to all & sundry works only on the emotional level, so you get the ego responses ; anger, disbelief, increduilty, hopelessness & helplessness. This all goes into the conciousness field & people absorb it, only adding to the chaos 'stew'
By being an example - being utterly true to yourself & living by peacful non-cooperation to those who would have it otherwise, do you truly help to turn things around. The 'fear' (deliberately planted) that seems to be all around us now is only the result of what a lot of people have 'brought into'. The conciousness field is saturated with it.
The road to freedom IMHO, is to deliberately disengage from 'fear' & shun anything which feeds it. Start to think for yourself

Here here! People will follow actions,not words or leaflets. Live without fear and just point blank refuse to bow down to it and as the agenda rolls on,you'll become a beacon of light to others. Lead by example.
The great plan is going to continue regardless and people arent going to realize whats happening untill it's too late.People arent going to rise up while they have food in there bellies and a warm hearth to sit next to.
When they no longer have those things,they're going to look towards the people that voluntarily gave all that up a long time ago because they refuse to cooperate.People always pull together under adversity.
Something as seemingly benign as deliberatly putting your bin out the wrong day,refusing to pay the fine and making sure everyone in your street knows what you're doing is far more powerful and dangerous than all the leaflets in the world.
Leaflets and meeting are just a way of easing your conscience;fooling yourself that you're doing something when you're really not.
We only have two real choices-walk the walk or shut the fuck up and follow the herd.

tom bombadil
20-07-2008, 10:36 AM
Good morning all.

I have not read all of the posts.

But, indigowarrior, was it you that said that we might be too cautious (my word :) ) of each other?

That's natural, I think, for any group getting together for the first time. It will pass, leaders will come out and we would move on.

I think D.Icke said that we should 'ourselves', that is 'by ourselves' (my words) take care of the situation. We are all waking up, he said/says. I agree. Some way or other the clouds of deception are being lifted (to reveal another cloud if the baddies are doing their jobs properly??) and people are 'seeing the light'. He does not want a leader as such but wants us all to take responsibility for out own actions. And, I think, if that means taking action in a group, then going for it cos you want to, is the way forward.

You decide!!

If the group sucks, as you see it then you could form another.

On a local level it could mean that certain MPs would not get into the local constituency. Or that a 'self professed' leader is ousted at the next PTA meeting. Or that a shop that sells crap to kids is closed down.

One can still use the system against stuff that is wrong in your eyes without claiming that the world has a hole in the poles or that that bloke is a Freemason.


Tom.

emanuel
20-07-2008, 06:35 PM
I'm fucking pig sick of it all. It's like the film 'Life Of Brian' and the Peoples front of judeah, all they do is sit and talk even when Judith is screaming at them to help stop Brian getting crucified! Great film, if you havn't seen it then watch it. ;)

I don't think people are affraid to do anything, I think people are affraid of not having any back up. That's how I feel anyway, if I stop doing all the things that support 'their system of control' and nobody else joins me then I will be completely fucked, I wont have a job so I wont be able to pay the rent or buy food and so on and so on.......Great stuff!!! I lose everything I have (when I say everything I mean the family I am to support with said job).

I would make a stand this instant, right now. I'll be the sodding spear head if I have to but we need to act as one.

Though........maybe that is the one thing that would kick start the civil unrest they are preparing for??!?!! Fuck they are even prepard for something we still aren't sure on :(

bexster031279
20-07-2008, 08:27 PM
'If you build it they will come'

Arrange a meeting and see who comes, we will have alot to discuss and maybe put our worries into action :confused:
Perhaps one of the Senior Members should chair it?

If the internet goes down we will have no way of communicating with each other.
If only as a back up.
Lets meet.
:cool:

Ian2day
20-07-2008, 09:18 PM
Its really down to numbers. There are loads of them. It will take a lot to awaken a large amount of people, in as short a time as possible. The real answer, if you want to overcome the oppressors. Is to increase our numbers. So in short, have loads of kids and raise them all out of the system in our own community. The more of us that exist who are not indoctrinated by them the better. So that is it in the most obvious way. So instead of trying to convince people of it all. You just create a unified group, not of the masses. this way you can spend valuable time having a stress free life and concentrate on food growing and being creative.

grrinder
20-07-2008, 10:37 PM
well now this is my 1st posting,there are a few people i know who ask the same ?s,you need to take breaks from this stuff from time to time.I was at brixton and the howden talk and as i live in hull this would have been a great time to get some ideas as to,what next do we do,some real ACTION is needed now.Action groups need to be set up in each town,city,village etc now i know at least 8 people who would be up for this,you spread this around via internet word of mouth etc,then what,we throw ideas around,one might be say asking for a page in the local uni rags or a free newspaper ask a local radio station not the big commercial radios you have no chance but smaller independent ones like here we have kingston radio where you can book spots in.you get the idea,maybe get together with other local areas now and again and remember someone always knows someone who can.

uloodara
20-07-2008, 10:39 PM
I was thinking maybe they WANT us to figure them out...so they can be more in our face. Rather than hideing behind laws that they pretend to follow. I got a feeling that right now they are passing as many laws as possible to divide and weaken the people, so that when we speak up it will be like ants against elephants.

I think we should definatly act now because the people are getting divided and soon, when there is martial law/economic failer/ a police state/ ect no one will listen. May be they are setting us up for something big like 2012...maybe the reptilians will come or something. lol :p

Also we should make our own community...as in know each other even if we live far away. Strengthen our quality and quantity.

pce

mightiswrong
21-07-2008, 12:51 AM
I am thinking that the move towards nature and setting up the kind of communities written about in these books called the ringing cedars of russia I have been studying is the way forward. There is a lot of ideas in them. One thing that I would like to do is to use 15 minutes in the morning to think good thoughts. In the books Anastasia suggests doing this at 6AM so PM me if you want to do that coz I will def do it more if others want to. Also on the 23rd of July it is going to be Dachnik day, an all earth holiday to meet with family and eat some food from the garden. Don't have any this year but am thinking of atleast putting some dandelion leaves in a salad and celebrating the new holiday.