Lawsuit Against Satanist Michael Aquino

[dnap]

My name is Diana Napolis. I used to be a child abuse investigator with a specialization in the investigation of ritual abuse of children. Michael Aquino and I clashed on the internet years ago and I have alleged that he then targeted me with nonlethal technology.

I filed a federal lawsuit several months ago and service to the parties is still pending.

If anyone is interested, please see my web page for the details.

Diana Napolis
http://diananapolis.wordpress.com

[kasalt]

Well I just 5-starred this thread after looking at your blog, but is it true that you pled guilty to stalking Jennifer Love Hewitt in 2003? I found this after I did a little searching:

An American woman has pleaded guilty to stalking Jennifer Love Hewitt - after becoming convinced the Hollywood star was using "psychotronic technology" to read her mind. The busty Heartbreakers actress was left terrified after Diana Napolis appeared outside a radio station in San Diego, California, accusing her of reading her mind and plotting to hurt her. According to reports the stalking continued via e- mail and phone for some time, before her arrest on 26 November last year. Napolis - who has spent five months in a psychiatric hospital following her arrest - could face three years in jail when she is sentenced next month, after pleading guilty in a California court Monday. Deputy District Attorney Fiona Khalil says, "She believed that Ms Love Hewitt was part of a group that targeted her with so-called psychotronic technology. Due to this technology (Napolis believed) they were able to tell what she was thinking." Napolis agreed to plead guilty in a deal that ensured five other charges leveled against her were dropped.

Source: http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0066868/

See also: "Woman Charged With Stalking Actress Sent To State Hospital"
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/2030773/detail.html

[miss_splitfoot]

kasalt - she mentions it in her blog:

In the year 2002 nonlethals such as Voice to Skull Devices and Voice Synthesis Devices were used in my assault so that my alleged perpetrators could pretend to be many people, including past associates of mine, and eventually Hollywood figures such as Steven Spielberg and Jennifer Hewitt. In all of these misidentifications I attempted to reality test and I did so in this case as well. However, my perpetrators paired these particular “identities” behaviors with severe pain in efforts to make me “act out.” I am alleging that the reason why Michael Aquino chose to pretend that Steven Spielberg was involved is because he appears to be one of Aquino’s favorite directors which this link and the stories contained within it prove http://www.xeper.org/maquino/index.html

In October 2002 I wrote a pseudo-threat to Jennifer Hewitt in efforts to place myself in police protection after my perpetrators threatened to irrevocably injure me with nonlethals. I wrote that pseudo-threat on purpose believing that the high-profile nature of the case would protect me and that fact is provable. I had no interest in Hollywood figures before this time-period, nor do I now, because the reality I operate in is so serious I do not have time for frivolous pursuits. Because I have been a student of Buddhism and other positive belief systems for many years, and have taken precepts about non-violence quite seriously, for me to write a threat, even a pseudo-threat, to a perfect stranger indicated that I was in deep distress. Because of these malicious actions by my alleged perpetrators, I spent a year in jail, months in a hospital, and lost my reputation and career, which was their intent. After plea-bargaining to a “stalking” offense, I was prohibited from using the internet and my MFT license was revoked.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

...is it true that you pled guilty to stalking Jennifer Love Hewitt in 2003?

Crikey... :o

[illuminotti]

See, thats what TBTB want, for every1 to ignore everything else and go straight to stalking celebrities! We all think crazy,

What is wrong with people on here, you say you want it stopped,we have someone living through it all, posting, she backs up all her claims, and yet not 1 bit of support from anyone, just negative............:confused:

[americana]

That's interesting. Just yesterday I read Michael Aquino's name in a talk given by another abuse/ mind control survivor. She also said that he did something to her . . . . I'll get a reference if I can find it.

[boots]

See, thats what TBTB want, for every1 to ignore everything else and go straight to stalking celebrities! We all think crazy,

What is wrong with people on here, you say you want it stopped,we have someone living through it all, posting, she backs up all her claims, and yet not 1 bit of support from anyone, just negative............:confused:

It's because we have Satanist in here and kasalt is one of them.

Then you get the sheep that go, Oh yeah, stalker.:rolleyes:

Thank you dnap we need people like you.

[americana]

Okay, after reading another thread yesterday about a MKUltra mentioned on Wikipedia, and a conference for ritual abuse survivors in Connecticut, I did a little bit of reading.

At The Fourth Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference, August 10 - 12, 2001 at the DoubleTree Hotel in Windsor Locks, CT, there was a talk given by a Kathleen Sullivan.

Here is the description:
Katherine Sullivan, age 46, is a survivor lifelong sadistic abuse, ritualized torture and mind-control experiments. She is working towards a degree in social work and is co-founder of PARC-VRAMC. Her topic is : "Memory Recovery and Screen Memories."

Here are the mentions of Michael Aquino in her talk, which is HERE: http://members.aol.com/smartnews/ks01.htm


Another example of memory transference is that when I allegedly remembered Michael Aquino as one of my overseas handlers, I remembered how to pronounce his last name correctly. Then I met with a perpetrator posing as a deprogrammer, who said it a different way and convinced me that his way of pronouncing it was correct. After that, I couldn't remember how I originally heard it in memory. I think the perpetrator scrambled my memory so that if I said Michael's last name the wrong way to people, I would discredit myself.

One screen memory allegedly put into my mind by mind-control expert Michael Aquino was at Six Flags over Georgia. I reported to the large carousel atop a hill in the middle of the amusement park. The combination of mirrors, moving lights, calliope music, the carousel moving around and horses going up and down put me in a very deep trance. Michael allegedly met me there and took me from there for at least one black op. I was brought back there after the op was finished, and didn't realize I had just missed a day or more of my life. Because my husband at the time was allegedly one of my many handlers, he helped me to believe I hadn't missed any days at all.

I read the text several talks by Ms. Sullivan. This one in particular is EXCELLENT.

I am wondering about the use of the word "allegedly", wondering whether she is still working through some issues that cause her not to be more definitive or declarative. However, she may be just being smart about it, by qualifying what she says with "allegedly".

Even if you are not a survivor of such abuse, what she has to say about doing automatic writing as a practice is great. You will find yourself wanting to try it, even if it's to find things out about yourself that aren't abuse- or mind-control related.

She also has a section about Stun Guns that is really interesting. I found myself thinking of JonBenet Ramsay as I read it.

So, if such texts are not applicable to your own situation, reading these things can open your mind to new ways of thinking. I applaud Ms. Sullivan for her courage, for her compassion, and for bringing out the truth. I found her highly credible.

[kasalt]

It's because we have Satanist in here and kasalt is one of them.

Now that's a sharp charge. Ask your friend Lizzy if she agrees with you. I've been helping to expose this sort of thing for months. Just look at some of my posts in this thread:

BoysTown Pedophile Ring & Washington
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29339

Thank you dnap we need people like you.

Agreed.

[boots]

Now that's a sharp charge. Ask your friend Lizzy if she agrees with you. I've been helping to expose this sort of thing for months. Just look at some of my posts in this thread:

BoysTown Pedophile Ring & Washington
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29339



Agreed.

Apologies

You had some good info on that thread.

Did jump to conclusions. Sorry.

Whether their Christians or occultist's.

Abuse is abuse.

[kasalt]

Apologies

You had some good info on that thread.

Did jump to conclusions. Sorry.

:)

No problem. Thanks...;)

[dnap]

[QUOTE=kasalt;424537]Well I just 5-starred this thread after looking at your blog, but is it true that you pled guilty to stalking Jennifer Love Hewitt in 2003? I found this after I did a little searching:

Yes, which is one of the reasons why I'm suing these parties because they set me up to commit that offense. I described it briefly on my web page and in the content of my lawsuit which is accesible via my web page. If you have any questions to ask, feel free.

Diana Napolis

[graflok]

My name is Diana Napolis. I used to be a child abuse investigator with a specialization in the investigation of ritual abuse of children. Michael Aquino and I clashed on the internet years ago and I have alleged that he then targeted me with nonlethal technology.

I filed a federal lawsuit several months ago and service to the parties is still pending.

If anyone is interested, please see my web page for the details.

Diana Napolis
http://diananapolis.wordpress.com

Thank you for posting here, Diana. I had read about your experiences and I
wondered what became of you and your work. Glad to see you are still hard
at work exposing these creeps. :)

[eternal_spirit]

Yes thanks Diane alot of reading to do on your site. Some of us have been researching enough to know some about the topics you cover and to see the bigger picture of how the huge web connects takes time to piece it togther.

:cool:

[dnap]

Thanks. I'm attempting to move the field of satanic ritual abuse victimization forward. I've added 20 new cases to my ritual abuse archive and exposed what I believe to be fraud in a major academic study which purported to find no evidence of SRA abuse.

I'd appreciate it if others might assist me in spreading the word about these issues, in particular about the lawsuit I just filed. I am also looking for any other alleged victims of Michael Aquino who feel they would have nothing to lose by coming forward at this time.

Diana Napolis

[edelweiss pirate]

Diane,

A reality test is always a good idea.

The problem is that our thoughts and even the things we say aloud are not always our own thoughts.

There are beings who hitch to certain people's coattails and make them say and do things to serve the egregor or 'mass mind'.

So if a person says something that pertains to you (even after implementing a reality test) and attacks you, it could be that they themselves are not aware of the attack, but the egregor 'satan' mind has influenced her thoughts and reality itself to make it an attack on you.

There are a lot of 'bodies' out there that are under remote Luciferic control.

Whether this Jennifer Hewitt lady is knowingly involved or even remotely involved, I do not know, only that such a thing is possible.

However you yourself are acting as her tormentor as you believe her to be yours..

I'd try to forget about it...

I'll research it tho, but the youtube video doesn't paint you in a good light.......

Jennifer Love Hewitt Stalker - YouTube

What how would respond to it?

[dnap]

Diane,

[QUOTE]A reality test is always a good idea...

Whether this Jennifer Hewitt lady is knowingly involved or even remotely involved, I do not know, only that such a thing is possible.

However you yourself are acting as her tormentor as you believe her to be yours..

That was a video about my plea-bargaining to "stalking" Ms. Hewitt. Carol Hopkins was quoted making defamatory and false remarks about me and because of that she is being sued. As I explained on my web page, my perpetrators had accessed me with voice to skull and voice synthesis devices that made me believe (temporarily) that hollywood figures were involved. Because they threatened to kill me, I purposely wrote a threat to Hewitt so that I would be arrested. I do not believe that Hewitt was involved in my case and I have publicly apologized to her. Evidently you did not read my web page.

Diana Napolis

[shenoma]

I think it needs to be called something else then using 'satan'. People think of the witch trails of old. It is not the same thing, and modern day people will think of it has a sick joke. Why can't people create a new label without the use of a religions terms?

http://vip.cybercity.dk/~ccc44406/smwane/frontpagepic.jpg

[edelweiss pirate]

I think it needs to be called something else then using 'satan'. People think of the witch trails of old. It is not the same thing, and modern day people will think of it has a sick joke. Why can't people create a new label without the use of a religions terms?

http://vip.cybercity.dk/~ccc44406/smwane/frontpagepic.jpg

What do you suggest?

[edelweiss pirate]

[QUOTE=edelweiss pirate;426362]Diane,



That was a video about my plea-bargaining to "stalking" Ms. Hewitt. Carol Hopkins was quoted making defamatory and false remarks about me and because of that she is being sued. As I explained on my web page, my perpetrators had accessed me with voice to skull and voice synthesis devices that made me believe (temporarily) that hollywood figures were involved. Because they threatened to kill me, I purposely wrote a threat to Hewitt so that I would be arrested. I do not believe that Hewitt was involved in my case and I have publicly apologized to her. Evidently you did not read my web page.

Diana Napolis


Meditation will help you to focus your attention. With application you can knock out radio signals and whatever fequencies they send.

Or even to quell the voices and fears within you.

Meditation is what you need!

[shenoma]

The abuse of children by powerful people? What just using the plain facts without bring up old and much over use images? It really bothers me so-call modern people such a lame title the way they did in the dark ages. The whole use of such explosive word has 'satan' doesn't gain the abuse of people the respect it deserves. Yeah, it will give you attention but not real respect of people.

What do you suggest?

[eternal_spirit]

Satanists fits the topic and the description. Aquino is a self confessed satanist! Head of the Temple of Set an offshoot from the Church of Satan which he used to be a member of.

[ufo_swatter]

To agree with and give weight to someone who has been in court for stalking is to lower your own reputation and that of this site.

It is a fact that in the world of the paranormal the unhinged mind finds an easy explanation for their own delusions. By agreeing with and supporting such a person you are adding to their condition and may lead them on to commit a crime.

There are many whose minds are disfunctional, it is nothing to do with mind control, nothing to do with satanists, any more than someone who has a missing tooth or a mole is a victim of Satanism.

The insane can be lucid, they can hide the fact that they are missing or malfunctioning in part of their brain, that is why for some medication and restraint should be the answer.

When an individual is harrassing people, threatening, intimidating or aggressive then you do yourself no favours by encouraging them. They need to see a doctor and if need be they should be removed until cured.

The fact that this person has gone from one victim to another easy target is a clear sign that they need to be restrained before someone gets hurt emotionally or physically.

[dnap]

To agree with and give weight to someone who has been in court for stalking is to lower your own reputation and that of this site.


That was very funny.
http://diananapolis.wordpress.com

[eternal_spirit]

To agree with and give weight to someone who has been in court for stalking is to lower your own reputation and that of this site.

It is a fact that in the world of the paranormal the unhinged mind finds an easy explanation for their own delusions. By agreeing with and supporting such a person you are adding to their condition and may lead them on to commit a crime.

There are many whose minds are disfunctional, it is nothing to do with mind control, nothing to do with satanists, any more than someone who has a missing tooth or a mole is a victim of Satanism.

The insane can be lucid, they can hide the fact that they are missing or malfunctioning in part of their brain, that is why for some medication and restraint should be the answer.

When an individual is harrassing people, threatening, intimidating or aggressive then you do yourself no favours by encouraging them. They need to see a doctor and if need be they should be removed until cured.

The fact that this person has gone from one victim to another easy target is a clear sign that they need to be restrained before someone gets hurt emotionally or physically.

.........................
Okay, I'll be nice about this (straining not to loose my temper)
Are you saying this about Diana:confused:

If so think you should do some research on Aquino. And read Diana's blog (which I guess you haven't)

The only insane people in the strory are Aquino and his lackie satanists and many more are still suffering at the hands of people like these.

Icke has written on topics such as this.

[ericdubay]

Thanks. I'm attempting to move the field of satanic ritual abuse victimization forward. I've added 20 new cases to my ritual abuse archive and exposed what I believe to be fraud in a major academic study which purported to find no evidence of SRA abuse.

I'd appreciate it if others might assist me in spreading the word about these issues, in particular about the lawsuit I just filed. I am also looking for any other alleged victims of Michael Aquino who feel they would have nothing to lose by coming forward at this time.

Diana Napolis

Kudos to you Diana for standing up to Aquino and standing up for other ritual abuse victims! Thank you for your activism, for sharing, and welcome to the David Icke forums. Never give up the fight for free humanity! We're not going to either and our numbers are exponentially growing.

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

[lurkerskywalker]

Its a good habit to read every bit available b4 posting... just an afterthought. If you like to roll hard its better to double check some facts.

This looks like a legit case to me. The guy posting the discredit video and recomending meditation vs voice2skull tech is a joke, or just another uninformed/disinformant. I dont like u dude. You seem to have missed some very basic mainstream info. This technology has already been used for advertising. What you said is like recommending boxing guard vs a shotgun... unefficient, and makes u look stupid. It actually makes me wonder about your real intentions. Btw the piece of info that was most relevant for me was that stupidly manipulated video u linked. Nothing in that soundbite made sense, but indeed confirms Dianes story.

Ill go back to lurkmode, but not b4 i wish the best to every victim that gets up and fights and the worst to every "another day another dollar" internet opinion mercenary out there.

[shenoma]

Christian child abuse? Where is that term not more widely use? No, keep on feeding into that title of 'satan' and what it stand for.
"It is an easy way to capitalize on popular prejudices without having to make explicit statements which might be difficult or impossible to defend against rational attack."



Satanists fits the topic and the description. Aquino is a self confessed satanist! Head of the Temple of Set an offshoot from the Church of Satan which he used to be a member of.

[edelweiss pirate]

Its a good habit to read every bit available b4 posting... just an afterthought. If you like to roll hard its better to double check some facts.

This looks like a legit case to me. The guy posting the discredit video and recomending meditation vs voice2skull tech is a joke, or just another uninformed/disinformant. I dont like u dude. You seem to have missed some very basic mainstream info. This technology has already been used for advertising. What you said is like recommending boxing guard vs a shotgun... unefficient, and makes u look stupid.

It's happened to me too. Meditation was how I got over it.

Now who looks stupid?

I posted the video because this is what most people will know about Diana.

If I hear someone is a stalker giving death threats I want to know why.

And in fact Diana's behaviour is similar behaviour to some of the clowns who subtly harrass me.

I live this stuff Pal, I don't just sit behind the computer and spout nonsense.

It's you my friend who looks stupid to imagine that man-made technology is more powerful than the God made eternal spirit, well maybe yours isn't that powerful right now, but with development of the concentration power of the mind, anything is possible.

[edelweiss pirate]

The abuse of children by powerful people? What just using the plain facts without bring up old and much over use images? It really bothers me so-call modern people such a lame title the way they did in the dark ages. The whole use of such explosive word has 'satan' doesn't gain the abuse of people the respect it deserves. Yeah, it will give you attention but not real respect of people.

OH FFS! iT BOTHERS YOU DOES IT... I'm so sorry Lizard Queen.

There is a spiritual aspect to all this that you are unaware of so I'll continue with 'satan' since you have no better alernative label for the extra dimensional beings that are fucking with us.

I get plenty of respect Shenoma btw, I'm for real and not a cartoon character attention seeker like you are.

I don't ever remember reading anything interesting from you ever actually. This forum is not your ego boudoir, how about contributing something of approximate interest rather than trying to shit on other forummers who are actually fighting this on the front line?

[edelweiss pirate]

The reason why what is referred to as synthetic telepathy was included within the arsenal of nonlethal weaponry is because hearing voices in one’s head incapacitates a target “without actually killing them.” In fact hearing voices is tormenting. A recent declassified military report was described in a wired.com news story titled, “Report: Nonlethal Weapons Could Target Brain, Mimic Schizophrenia” at http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/report-nonletha.html which explains how V2K can simulate mental illness or schizophrenia.

I used to hear voices on isolated occasions. I consider that it has more to do with the astral plane than any technology.

Hearing voices and demon possession has been going on for thousands of years way before the modern day fixation with technology.

If you become obessesed with an invisible technological threat that you imagine can read your thoughts and talk to you, you're going to go crazy and be constantly under the mercy of an imagined danger.

It's demon beings and astrally projecting masonic operatives at work in the astral plane. I'm sure of it.

We are 'one consciousness' and some people know how to capitalise for drawing people into a hive mind.

Winston Churchill and Mark Chapman are both known to have heard voices. Schizophrenics hear voices.... Schizophrenia has been going on for thousands of years and is part of Shamanic lore: communicating with spirits.

It's more likely that it is a spiritual attack and not a technological one.

BTW In my flat I hear a low pulse from time to time and sometime it annoys me so I focus on the signal and simply knock it out by visualising a hammer smashing the broadcasting equipment to pieces. I've done a reality test with it again and again and as soon as I visualise the smashing the signal stops. They often boost the signal and you can tell it's louder and stronger but it just takes me a little longer and a stronger intensity of concentration to knock it out again.

I don't know the purpose of the signal, it could be benign but it is annoying..... Whether this thing is technological or spiritual there should be a way to beat it.

Meditation is clearing your mind of all thoughts. How can you hear voices if there are no thoughts. QED.

It works.

[dnap]

I used to hear voices on isolated occasions. I consider that it has more to do with the astral plane than any technology.

Then why shouldn't I consider you incredible right up front if you talk about having once hear voices?

Hearing voices and demon possession has been going on for thousands of years way before the modern day fixation with technology.

I've studied demon possession and exorcism for many, many, years.

If you become obessesed with an invisible technological threat that you imagine can read your thoughts and talk to you, you're going to go crazy and be constantly under the mercy of an imagined danger
It's demon beings and astrally projecting masonic operatives at work in the astral plane. I'm sure of it.

I completely disagree with you. What is needed is discrimination. The people I am dealing with made inumerable errors with me, one of which was choosing a target who is not a beginner in these subjects. I can make these types of distinctions.

Meditation is clearing your mind of all thoughts. How can you hear voices if there are no thoughts. QED.

I have a 30 year history of meditation. The mind cannot be quieted when assaulted with remote technology. It's not a spiritual matter, it's a technological one.

Diana Napolis

[shenoma]

Let's keep on topic here without the personal insults. I have good reasons why the use of the title of 'satan' is completely inappropriate with modern usage. It's history during the witch trails that resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent women. The abuse of children is enough without the use of superstition term. The connection to the word 'satan' overshadows the abuse of the children.

Why isn't the term Christian Child Abuse ever use but people capitalize on using 'satanic' abuse instead?

argumentum ad hominem


OH FFS! iT BOTHERS YOU DOES IT... I'm so sorry Lizard Queen.

There is a spiritual aspect to all this that you are unaware of so I'll continue with 'satan' since you have no better alernative label for the extra dimensional beings that are fucking with us.

I get plenty of respect Shenoma btw, I'm for real and not a cartoon character attention seeker like you are.

I don't ever remember reading anything interesting from you ever actually. This forum is not your ego boudoir, how about contributing something of approximate interest rather than trying to shit on other forummers who are actually fighting this on the front line?

[edelweiss pirate]

I have a 30 year history of meditation. The mind cannot be quieted when assaulted with remote technology. It's not a spiritual matter, it's a technological one.

Diana Napolis

Maybe it's all the same...

One thing I've learned is that this world is not what it seems......

Good luck on your quest Diana.

[deafbred]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dnap View Post

I have a 30 year history of meditation. The mind cannot be quieted when assaulted with remote technology. It's not a spiritual matter, it's a technological one.

Diana Napolis
Maybe it's all the same...

One thing I've learned is that this world is not what it seems......

Good luck on your quest Diana.

..this... <technological> _systems_ ...isn't the REAL ~energy...~... its a FALSE .one. ...the ~real~ energy is something more profound. the electrical "us" 'you' "me" humanity that can change frequencies at [will]and it is ..free of bounds limitless. ...these machines don't have the will we have...they only got data storage analysis...and that takes time...where as our 'experience' is INSTANT reflection of whats taking place in the NOW. We got to wake up to that -instant- that NOW where all the power is held and holds a harvest greater than what one or many machines can compute. We got to tap into it...we are that slicer of time reality. We define the lines we thought the box to make inescapable. ..where are you going to draw. what, are the machines, going to see.> speed of light...be that light..there is no resistance sept you.

Remember how in the MATRIX the machines used 'us' for batteries.. we are the FORCE to be reckoned with.

[shenoma]

Let's see the Architect only 'said' there were two chooses, when in fact there where three. Neo could and should had merge with the matrix. He lied, it wasn't the Architect that made the matrix it had been humans that had been the ones in the begin with making of computers. To complete the circle would be the joining of the two into a new species and awareness. The machines gaining the knowledge of love and the humans gaining freedom from the body.



Remember how in the MATRIX the machines used 'us' for batteries.. we are the FORCE to be reckoned with.

[mynameis]

Alot of these leaders and their functionaries try to act more powerful than they actually are in reality. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Jim Jones and etc....

Cult suicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shakespeare believed everything we know is a perception, so nothing carries a level of good or bad besides what we bring to the table. Usually the cult shapes the victim's mind as a dependent on the group for survival. Power and control within the cult are all sadomasochistic; an analogy would be like training a dog. Reward their version of good behavior, while punishing the bad behavior.

When coerced by pain and total control over a victim's life even the strongest will can break over time. The result of such conditioning is a fractured self-image. The victim's mind is then programmable due to the survival mechanism within each individual, who is then mislead to believe their handler has absolute control over ever aspect of their lives. This is also why you can get some children to kill at an early age.

More so than not, victims are programmed with drugs, pain compliance, and conditioning. Alot of cult victims have one or more of these traits in common. If we can identify the traits through the medical community then we might get a better handle on trauma, drug, and psychological mind control. Until there are people willing to do the work there will be no progress towards identification and the victims will be society outcasts. I think that this shows the level of maturity our society has when dealing with victims. All the victims can't be lying all the time about this subject.