Reptilian family members

[amberdawn]

Does anyone ever think anyone in their family is reptilian? Some of my extended family seem very cold blooded and there is history of physical and sexual abuse on both sides of my family. It's a scary thought but it doesn't scare me too much because I know I am more than my DNA (thanks David!) I try to avoid these 'family' members.


<3 Amber

[gordonfreeman]

I think have some reptilian blood...I do know that my Dad's family is reptilian, because they too have a history of physical abuse, drug abuse, and sexual abuse. All kinds of that negative pasts. I am half-blooded, because my Mom's family is purely human (kind of).

[darketernal]

I know I come from what David calls a "bloodline family". Just because one carries the genes and is a hybrid, does not make them a reptilian in the way David is refering to them. You've got to be possessed or inhabited in some way by these beings. The genes only make such a thing possible.

[malkor]

I think have some reptilian blood...I do know that my Dad's family is reptilian, because they too have a history of physical abuse, drug abuse, and sexual abuse. All kinds of that negative pasts. I am half-blooded, because my Mom's family is purely human (kind of).

What, you can't be drug/sexual/physical abuser if you're 'pure' blood human? Come now. Humans are pretty much as violent and ritually obsessive as any alleged "reptilian."

Remember the gladiator pens? All those tens of thousands of bloodthirsty spectators couldn't have been reptilian, possessed or otherwise. Do you like sports, competing? These are the same thing. Violence Light. It doesn't stop there. We are slaves to ceremony and ritual at our very basic level.

If these things are reptilian, then we all have them brother. Every single human. The only difference is how you train yourself or what kind of training is imposed on you from birth. In fact, it is a rare breed of human that is able to break free from culturally (or otherwise) imposed conditioning. A rare person indeed when compared to the whole who can stand up and proclaim "the system of belief you have forced upon me are nonsense and I will have no more part in them."

[amberdawn]

True. I don't even know enough to say 'Reptilian' I just mean cold blooded, which I guess could be any creatures/beings.

[darketernal]

True. I don't even know enough to say 'Reptilian' I just mean cold blooded, which I guess could be any creatures/beings.

Does your family have royal lineage? Family membership in the upper ranks of secret societies? A lot of people with very high security clearance jobs? A long history of psychic abilities that are kept as a "family secret" which you do not talk to non-family about? A history of pedophilia mixed in with any/all of the above?

I could get into some psychological questions about your inner demons or suppressed negative side if you like also.

[legendary]

wow darketernal your family seem slightly messed up (if you are describing your family) no offense meant if not or if they are tbh coz you can't choose family

[darketernal]

wow darketernal your family seem slightly messed up (if you are describing your family) no offense meant if not or if they are tbh coz you can't choose family

We all live different lives. My family is related to royalty from England (I live in Texas) on my mother's side, and from Royalty in the Austria/Czechloslovokia area of my father's side. My father's family refer to themselves as Bohemian in ethnicty and were kicked out of Czechloslovakia in the 1920's for being murders and practitioners of black magic. On my mother's side my grandfather and great grandfather were both 33rd degree Scottish Rite, and I have several surviving members of that family who are 33rd degree Scottish Rite. My grandfater was also in Naval Intelligence during WWII. I have members of BOTH sides of the family at NASA and one current astronaut. There is a history of extreme ritualistic pedophilia on my father's side, and I actually took two of them to court a number of years ago and testified agains them regarding my own abuse, however ALL of the other witnesses refused to testify even though several admitted to police that it was true, and it was decided with a lone witness willing to testify a court case could not go forward. I'm of course completely cut off from that side of the family, only two of them are on speaking terms with me (my father is one of 7 children).

This is just abit of background, without getting into the details of my own life. If your family does not have this sort of background or at least be from powerful elite ancestory, I would not worry much about being a hybrid bloodline. Unless of course there is a buried part of your psyche which refers to most people you meet as "stupid apes", which you must continually supress if you want to be a good person. I find most "bloodline" family members deal with a very real fight between their ego and id, and have to actively work at suppressing their negative side.

[amberdawn]

Wow DE. I don't know much about anything like that in my family history. I know things happened that nobody talks about. My mom used to ask my grandma about what she was like as a child and my great grandma would say-Your mom doesn't remember anything she hit her head! That's pretty messed up. I didn't know about the abuse until my aunt told me one night at a bar. I don't talk to this aunt anymore, she is one of the totally cold people as I found out a couple years later. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes back to some sort of black magic or some other evil history. I am lucky I didn't have to go through anything like that, as far as I can remember anyway.

Thank you for sharing DE.


<3 Amber

[tim the enchanter]

This is just abit of background, without getting into the details of my own life. If your family does not have this sort of background or at least be from powerful elite ancestory, I would not worry much about being a hybrid bloodline. Unless of course there is a buried part of your psyche which refers to most people you meet as "stupid apes", which you must continually supress if you want to be a good person. I find most "bloodline" family members deal with a very real fight between their ego and id, and have to actively work at suppressing their negative side.

But wouldn't that make all George Carlin (RIP) fans hybrids? :D

[tim the enchanter]

But seriously, when you talk of the battle between the ego and the id, could you flesh that out some? Maybe I know someone...

[darketernal]

But seriously, when you talk of the battle between the ego and the id, could you flesh that out some? Maybe I know someone...

Well, because of the extensive mind control programming I went through I am DID, however a number of years ago when I started deprograming, my personalities started merging, and so did my fragmented memories. While I desire to be a good person I still have a little voice inside that urges me to follow my programming, to follow my base urges. It is the side of me that carries all of my hatred and anger and it refers to people as "stupid apes". It is not difficult at this point in my life to stay in control, however that negative part of my psyche is always there.

Before you ask, yes I've had therapy I just neglected to tell the therapist details she did not need to know about my family and past when the memories flooded in, and I'm not schizophrenic as I've had two MRI's in the last 1.5 years as part of my diagnosis for my medical disorder.

In any event, other poeple I know in my family and others I've meet when within the system seem to have similar struggles and converse directly with their ID at times.

[izzy]

Well, because of the extensive mind control programming I went through I am DID, however a number of years ago when I started deprograming, my personalities started merging, and so did my fragmented memories. While I desire to be a good person I still have a little voice inside that urges me to follow my programming, to follow my base urges. It is the side of me that carries all of my hatred and anger and it refers to people as "stupid apes". It is not difficult at this point in my life to stay in control, however that negative part of my psyche is always there.

Before you ask, yes I've had therapy I just neglected to tell the therapist details she did not need to know about my family and past when the memories flooded in, and I'm not schizophrenic as I've had two MRI's in the last 1.5 years as part of my diagnosis for my medical disorder.

In any event, other poeple I know in my family and others I've meet when within the system seem to have similar struggles and converse directly with their ID at times.


when you say mind control - do you mean a systemic and deliberate pattern of learning set up by those closest to you to make you think and feel and act a certain way .. or do you mean the unconscious programming our parents pass on to all of us - good and bad ?

and how do you cope now when the urges come back - can your wife help ?

[darketernal]

when you say mind control - do you mean a systemic and deliberate pattern of learning set up by those closest to you to make you think and feel and act a certain way .. or do you mean the unconscious programming our parents pass on to all of us - good and bad ?

and how do you cope now when the urges come back - can your wife help ?

No I went through mind control programming from childhood. Izzy I mentioned this in a few other threads. I was involved in the CIA for years.

My wife is an empath and she is comforting to have, but no I control myself on my own.

[amethyst]

I know I come from what David calls a "bloodline family". Just because one carries the genes and is a hybrid, does not make them a reptilian in the way David is refering to them. You've got to be possessed or inhabited in some way by these beings. The genes only make such a thing possible.

Yes. People (human beings), all have a free-will choice..when they have broken free from their programing....

.....unless, (I suppose) they are a clone......

Cuz it's my understanding that clones don't have souls.

[size_of_light]

Darketernal,

Any knowledge on how body modifications like dental implants, crowns, veneers, or toupees would affect a shapeshifter?

Would these sorts of things obstruct the morphing process?

I'm wondering if it might explain why so many alleged shapeshifters have such horrible fucking teeth, and are often bald.

[darketernal]

Darketernal,

Any knowledge on how body modifications like dental implants, crowns, veneers, or toupees would affect a shapeshifter?

Would these sorts of things obstruct the morphing process?

I'm wondering if it might explain why so many alleged shapeshifters have such horrible fucking teeth, and are often bald.

No idea. I've never been clued in on exactally how the posession and shapeshifting actually works. I've only seen one person do it and no explination was given. Anything I or anyone else puts out on the process is just theory.

[amethyst]

No idea. I've never been clued in on exactally how the posession and shapeshifting actually works. I've only seen one person do it and no explination was given. Anything I or anyone else puts out on the process is just theory.

Darketernal, did you ever read Fritz Springmeier's books, mentioned by Icke in some of his books?

[darketernal]

Darketernal, did you ever read Fritz Springmeier's books, mentioned by Icke in some of his books?

No I have not.

[darketernal]

Yes. People (human beings), all have a free-will choice..when they have broken free from their programing....

.....unless, (I suppose) they are a clone......

Cuz it's my understanding that clones don't have souls.

Sounds like Christian propaganda.

[amethyst]

No I have not.

You might check them out. They are really enlightening.

But they do warn that there are "trigger" phrases in them.

[amethyst]

Sounds like Christian propaganda.

How so?

[size_of_light]

"While I desire to be a good person I still have a little voice inside that urges me to follow my programming, to follow my base urges. It is the side of me that carries all of my hatred and anger and it refers to people as "stupid apes". It is not difficult at this point in my life to stay in control, however that negative part of my psyche is always there. "

Remove the mention of 'programming' from your above paragraph, and I think it describes all of us, regardless of bloodline, so don't let it stress you too much. At times my little voice refers to them (other people) as 'mindless sheep', 'fucking idiots', 'morons', 'dildoes' and 'gormless fools' more often than 'stupid apes', but it's the same innate frustration and anger that we all have inside us.

Nevertheless respect and admiration for your courage and strength in sharing this with us.

Have you elaborated on the shapeshifting episode you witnessed, in previous posts, or if not, would you care to?

[darketernal]

How so?

A soul? Do you really think an insect or bird is not part of the same lifesource you are? Do you really think the body you inhabit does not have its ancestory with genetically modified livestock, grown in a lab initially?

[amethyst]

A soul? Do you really think an insect or bird is not part of the same lifesource you are? Do you really think the body you inhabit does not have its ancestory with genetically modified livestock, grown in a lab initially?

Yes. I believe animals come from the same source. God.

But from what I've read, (not saying I can't be wrong) clones lack "souls", as they are duplicates of the original beings.

[darketernal]

"While I desire to be a good person I still have a little voice inside that urges me to follow my programming, to follow my base urges. It is the side of me that carries all of my hatred and anger and it refers to people as "stupid apes". It is not difficult at this point in my life to stay in control, however that negative part of my psyche is always there. "

Remove the mention of 'programming' from your above paragraph, and I think it describes all of us, regardless of bloodline, so don't let it stress you too much. At times my little voice refers to them (other people) as 'mindless sheep', 'fucking idiots', 'morons', 'dildoes' and 'gormless fools' more often than 'stupid apes', but it's the same innate frustration and anger that we all have inside us.

Nevertheless respect and admiration for your courage and strength in sharing this with us.

Have you elaborated on the shapeshifting episode you witnessed, in previous posts, or if not, would you care to?

I've posted a bit on these subjects but not the shapeshifting. Please keep in mind, I limit what I type on anything classified as commiting federal felonies is not something I would like to deal with the stresses of at this point in my life. Nor more than I would ask you to rob a bank for "the cause" of truth.

The only individual I've seen shapeshift was during my psyops training. The individual goes by the name Ingo Swan. My memories of the shapeshifts are very fuzzy however I recall seeing him do it a few times. I'm not certain if the human form is an illusion, if the reptilian form is an outward projection of the spiritual aspect of the reptilian host inside him. If the shapeshift is even a physical action or something else. Again, I was never given an explination, and even if I were, it would not mean I was told the truth. People on the inside do not have to be told the truth of anything. They only need the information, truth or lies, required for them to play their part in the game.

From what I remember the shapeshift is extremely fast, a second maybe less. Even typing about it I feel my heart racing a little. Their eyes inspire terror in me still to this day. It is not something I talk about.

[darketernal]

Yes. I believe animals come from the same source. God.

But from what I've read, (not saying I can't be wrong) clones lack "souls", as they are duplicates of the original beings.


Ah I see. I do not buy the higher being concept. By acknowledging the existance of a higher consciousness than the one you are part of you, you remove your own power, and instead give it to said being. A fail to see how a cloned being would have any different life energy or consciousness from the original. Please explain how this would work.

[amethyst]

Ah I see. I do not buy the higher being concept. By acknowledging the existance of a higher consciousness than the one you are part of you, you remove your own power, and instead give it to said being. A fail to see how a cloned being would have any different life energy or consciousness from the original. Please explain how this would work.

Wish I could give you a more thoughtful answer to that about clones, but I have read only a bit about cloning.

When I learn more about the cloning process, I'll answer you more succinctly then ;)

[size_of_light]

dark,

I Googled 'Ingo Swann', and actually remembered reading up on his remote viewing courses a while back, even considered purchasing one.

I sympathise with you when speak of the 'fear' re: the eyes - he looks pretty freaky in human form.

Plenty I'd like to discuss with you, but I might check out some of your earlier posts to avoid putting you on the spot or save you from repeating yourself, first.

[izzy]

Ah I see. I do not buy the higher being concept. By acknowledging the existance of a higher consciousness than the one you are part of you, you remove your own power, and instead give it to said being. A fail to see how a cloned being would have any different life energy or consciousness from the original. Please explain how this would work.


i agree ...

[size_of_light]

Hmmm...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=224l1ctROIY

Mr Swann has bad teeth, and is going bald, as evidenced at the above link.

Seems to fit my 'shapeshifters don't wear toupees' line of thought from earlier on.

[darketernal]

Hmmm...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=224l1ctROIY

Mr Swann has bad teeth, and is going bald, as evidenced at the above link.

Seems to fit my 'shapeshifters don't wear toupees' line of thought from earlier on.

Any admits to being on the CIA payroll for 20 years, and the CIA does not deny this.

[size_of_light]

I've briefly skimmed some stuff on his background...

He's certainly got the psychic/RV credentials (his accurate descriptions of Jupiter etc.).

Dark, if you can, when the shifts occured during your psy-ops training, were they demonstrations for the trainees on how it can be done, designed to instill fear and assert authority, or for other reasons?

[darketernal]

I've briefly skimmed some stuff on his background...

He's certainly got the psychic/RV credentials (his accurate descriptions of Jupiter etc.).

Dark, if you can, when the shifts occured during your psy-ops training, were they demonstrations for the trainees on how it can be done, designed to instill fear and assert authority, or for other reasons?

I'm going with a combination of asserting authority and other reasons not really made clear to anyone. Fear is of course always a motivation. Human fear seems to be like a drug to them.

I've seen a number of reptilians who did not shapeshift into humans in front of me, however the question was concerning shapeshifting itself, which I've only observed a few times and in one individual.

[size_of_light]

You've seen actual reptilians who didn't revert to human form?

What was the context? I'm guessing it wasn't a cocktail party.

Did they communicate with you, or vice versa? If so, did they use normal English, telepathy etc.

Any details would be great.

I'm sure everyone finds your stories fascinating.

[darketernal]

You've seen actual reptilians who didn't revert to human form?

What was the context? I'm guessing it wasn't a cocktail party.

Did they communicate with you, or vice versa? If so, did they use normal English, telepathy etc.

Any details would be great.

I'm sure everyone finds your stories fascinating.

Inside black operation compounds. Purely telepathy. They do not even bother to communicate with regular humans, only those with the right genetics. Keep in mind they consider hybrids slaves, and humans less than slaves. Do you think a sheepherder feels a need to talk to his sheep? That is all I can say on subject of cross-species telepathy without breaking a number of federal laws. As stated in previous threads I do not want to have to deal with these people showing up and harrassing me.

[darketernal]

The reptilians on this planet do not all inhabit human hybrids, no more than all humans are hybrid bloodlines and possessed by a reptilian. It is a mistake to assume that the hybrids people see running the world that people have seen shapeshift are in fact the entirety of the species in question. They are the guides and directors of the hybrid slaves who tend over the rest of the herd. They themselves are not even that high in the caste system of the reptilians.

[size_of_light]

"...I do not want to have to deal with these people showing up and harrassing me."


Understood.

Thanks for the mind-bending insights. Will catch you again. Be well.

(My avatar gives you the thumbs up and drives on by).

[lightworks]

Inside black operation compounds. Purely telepathy. They do not even bother to communicate with regular humans, only those with the right genetics. Keep in mind they consider hybrids slaves, and humans less than slaves. Do you think a sheepherder feels a need to talk to his sheep? That is all I can say on subject of cross-species telepathy without breaking a number of federal laws. As stated in previous threads I do not want to have to deal with these people showing up and harrassing me.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_cc00XOTQ2MjM2NA==.html#
reptilians galore//

[darketernal]

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_cc00XOTQ2MjM2NA==.html#
reptilians galore//

That video is blocked in my region (Texas).

[element]

The reptilians on this planet do not all inhabit human hybrids, no more than all humans are hybrid bloodlines and possessed by a reptilian. It is a mistake to assume that the hybrids people see running the world that people have seen shapeshift are in fact the entirety of the species in question. They are the guides and directors of the hybrid slaves who tend over the rest of the herd. They themselves are not even that high in the caste system of the reptilians.

How do you know they are not even that high in the reptile hierarchy? What's more to come? Have you seen different types of reptilians?

[lightworks]

That video is blocked in my region (Texas).
shit......so it is species 3..get it from any blockbusters movie rental......or the texan equivalent.....

[lightworks]

I've posted a bit on these subjects but not the shapeshifting. Please keep in mind, I limit what I type on anything classified as commiting federal felonies is not something I would like to deal with the stresses of at this point in my life. Nor more than I would ask you to rob a bank for "the cause" of truth.

The only individual I've seen shapeshift was during my psyops training. The individual goes by the name Ingo Swan. My memories of the shapeshifts are very fuzzy however I recall seeing him do it a few times. I'm not certain if the human form is an illusion, if the reptilian form is an outward projection of the spiritual aspect of the reptilian host inside him. If the shapeshift is even a physical action or something else. Again, I was never given an explination, and even if I were, it would not mean I was told the truth. People on the inside do not have to be told the truth of anything. They only need the information, truth or lies, required for them to play their part in the game.

From what I remember the shapeshift is extremely fast, a second maybe less. Even typing about it I feel my heart racing a little. Their eyes inspire terror in me still to this day. It is not something I talk about.

I saw the english queen shapeshift....in 1977....sucha truly nasty fucking creature...filled to overflowing with spite and hate.....I just stuck my fingers up ...and told it to fuck off....i wasnt really scared at that moment

[brenbren]

Ah I see. I do not buy the higher being concept. By acknowledging the existance of a higher consciousness than the one you are part of you, you remove your own power, and instead give it to said being.

brilliant! love that explanation of God. thanks! :)

[lightworks]

brilliant! Love That Explanation Of God. Thanks! :)
Fucking Exactly Fuck All Religion

[darketernal]

How do you know they are not even that high in the reptile hierarchy? What's more to come? Have you seen different types of reptilians?

The real question is, why don't you know it?

[element]

The real question is, why don't you know it?

The biggest answer is: I don't take everything I read in a book for real!! Experience is the only truth, I never experienced reptilians, but you do, so I'm asking you!!:)

[amethyst]

The reptilians on this planet do not all inhabit human hybrids, no more than all humans are hybrid bloodlines and possessed by a reptilian. It is a mistake to assume that the hybrids people see running the world that people have seen shapeshift are in fact the entirety of the species in question. They are the guides and directors of the hybrid slaves who tend over the rest of the herd. They themselves are not even that high in the caste system of the reptilians.

What you have written here seems to line up with what is written about the nephillim in the book of Genesis and also the book of Enoch.....and the Bible in general.

There are hierachies of angelic beings. Angels. Angelic beings that all have a rank..that mated with human women..and created hybrid offspring, and their descendants exist today. We call them, for lack of a better word "reptilians'.

Something that apostle Paul wrote about in the book of Ephesians to the Ephesian church.

Some of the angels (pricipalities) have greater authority than do the other beings. They are refered to in general terms as "powers, principalities and wicked spirits."

" For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places". (Ephesians 6:12).

They are not human. They are other worldly. And they mated with human women and created offspring. The principalites (evil angelic beings) oversee the half angel/half human hybrids.....it would make sense that this would be.

Of course anyone is free to not believe what has been written, if they so choose.

[element]

What you have written here seems to line up with what is written about the nephillim in the book of Genesis and also the book of Enoch.....and the Bible in general.

There are hierachies of angelic beings. Angels. Angelic beings that all have a rank..that mated with human women..and created hybrid offspring, and their descendants exist today. We call them, for lack of a better word "reptilians'.

Something that apostle Paul wrote about in the book of Ephesians to the Ephesian church.

Some of the angels (pricipalities) have greater authority than do the other beings. They are refered to in general terms as "powers, principalities and wicked spirits."

" For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places". (Ephesians 6:12).

They are not human. They are other worldly. And they mated with human women and created offspring. The principalites (evil angelic beings) oversee the half angel/half human hybrids.....it would make sense that this would be.

Of course anyone is free to not believe what has been written, if they so choose.

How can angels mate with humans while they do not have a physical body?
Why would they be evil. Is all ancient civilisation nothing but a place of creepy angels?

[tim the enchanter]

Well, because of the extensive mind control programming I went through I am DID, however a number of years ago when I started deprograming, my personalities started merging, and so did my fragmented memories. While I desire to be a good person I still have a little voice inside that urges me to follow my programming, to follow my base urges. It is the side of me that carries all of my hatred and anger and it refers to people as "stupid apes". It is not difficult at this point in my life to stay in control, however that negative part of my psyche is always there.

Before you ask, yes I've had therapy I just neglected to tell the therapist details she did not need to know about my family and past when the memories flooded in, and I'm not schizophrenic as I've had two MRI's in the last 1.5 years as part of my diagnosis for my medical disorder.

In any event, other poeple I know in my family and others I've meet when within the system seem to have similar struggles and converse directly with their ID at times.

I wasn't going to ask if you had therapy or ask if you aren't just insane, but I would be curious to know how you came to the realizations that you have. How did it begin?

[tim the enchanter]

The biggest answer is: I don't take everything I read in a book for real!! Experience is the only truth, I never experienced reptilians, but you do, so I'm asking you!!:)

Have you experianced the thousands of footnotes/sources in the back of the books I list in my "Authors" thread?

:)

[darketernal]

I wasn't going to ask if you had therapy or ask if you aren't just insane, but I would be curious to know how you came to the realizations that you have. How did it begin?


That is an interesting question. Prior to any therapy I knew that I had some involvement with the CIA but had chosen to walk away from it a few years before, as well as my family history, and things my grandfather taunt me about his experiences in esoteric matters and his experiences in Naval Intelligence. It seems perfectly normal to me that I really only had a few small fragmented memories from my intel involvement. It was not something I consciously questioned.

I told my mother one day I wanted to talk about the abuse that happened to me at the hands of some of my father's family, which she has suspected for years herself, and she advised me to find a therapist. When I went to her my goal was to understand the episodes of disociative fugue I was having (being at home minding my own business and then suddenly finding myself in a store or another town hours later with no idea how I got there) as well as to turn in my abusers to the police.

I had a minimal amount of therapy, and she had me start making a journal of my internal dialoges with my negative side, and got me to start talking about the details of the abuse. When I started doing these things it seemed as though my memories all converged into my conscious mind. I recalled not just the abuse enough to testify in court, but started remembering, vividly, my experiences with the mind control programs, the details of my intel and black ops training, jobs I did for them. Everything flooded back in. Most of it I kept completely to myself, because being a sound minded person I knew how crazy it would sound even to a psychologist, and the realization that if it were real, and I was not certain I was not crazy yet... then talking to her would dangerous to her potentially. In any event, the court case against my relatives never made it to trial due to the events described previously.

As for the question of insanity... of course I'm insane. I've seen things that cannot be according to the consensus reality, and have beliefs that are very very outside of social norms. That is the definition of insane, mad or crazy.

The question would of course be do I have schizophrenia. I've had therpy by a trained therapist who felt I had no mental disorders, dispite my traumatic past and memory issues I seemed to be very outgoing, logical, intelligent and she felt more mentally fit and balanced than the average individual. This is also what she told the DA when interviewed after I filed my police report.

Also, I've had two MRI's in the last two years and was found by two neurologist to have perfect brain structure and functioning. No brain tissue loss (the characteristic physical indentifier of schizophrenia), brain lessions, tumors etc.

However, feel free to draw your own conclusions.

[darketernal]

Alright enough about me and my families. I can't possibly be alone on this forum. Anyone else with a story to tell?

[tim the enchanter]

As for the question of insanity... of course I'm insane. I've seen things that cannot be according to the consensus reality, and have beliefs that are very very outside of social norms. That is the definition of insane, mad or crazy.

Hunter S. Thompson:

"Going to trial with a lawyer who considers your whole life-style a Crime in Progress is not a happy prospect."

"If you're going to be crazy, you have to get paid for it or else you're going to be locked up."

"It was the Law of the Sea, they said. Civilization ends at the waterline. Beyond that, we all enter the food chain, and not always right at the top."

"If I'd written all the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people - including me - would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism. "



Not to mention the lizards at the Vegas hotel bar...




However, feel free to draw your own conclusions.

I'm not drawing any conclusions. How could I? The last thing I'm going to do is just presume you're making this up; which doesn't mean I "believe" you, but neither does it mean that I doubt you.

;)

[tim the enchanter]

Alright enough about me and my families. I can't possibly be alone on this forum. Anyone else with a story to tell?

Two of my earliest nightmares were: 1, walking through an ancient castle, closed of from sunlight, light by torches I think, and coming across a room where my parents were seated at a wooden table. I was pretty spooked. I enter, they're talking EXACTLY as if they would be at the kichen table in real life. And then, without warning, they stop, turn to me, and, well, shapeshift. Not into lizards, though they might have hissed. Think Bilbo shapeshifting at Rivendell upon seeing the ring. What I rememeber vividely is the tonges and the EVIL in their appearence. I run. Run outside into the light.

Another dream, my mother shapeshifts into Ursula:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CLv0CJEQYE0

But, not a cartoon, FOR REAL.



Anyway, I have no idea if that means anything or not, but I find it interesting...

[amberdawn]

I got a feeling once that my aunt was some sort of sea creature from another planet. That was pretty freaky.

[size_of_light]

My brother once rented Crocodile Dundee from the video store.

[size_of_light]

(Thread dead).

[darketernal]

My brother once rented Crocodile Dundee from the video store.

LoL :D

[mariag]

Does anyone ever think anyone in their family is reptilian? Some of my extended family seem very cold blooded and there is history of physical and sexual abuse on both sides of my family. It's a scary thought but it doesn't scare me too much because I know I am more than my DNA (thanks David!) I try to avoid these 'family' members.


<3 Amber

I don´t think , I know :)
We are part of :( The Merovingian Bloodline

[paradox]

I know I come from what David calls a "bloodline family". Just because one carries the genes and is a hybrid, does not make them a reptilian in the way David is refering to them. You've got to be possessed or inhabited in some way by these beings. The genes only make such a thing possible.

well done!

[daytimetwilight]

My brother once rented Crocodile Dundee from the video store.

A needed laugh, thanks. :D

[mariag]

Alright enough about me and my families. I can't possibly be alone on this forum. Anyone else with a story to tell?

You are not the only one .:)

[mariag]

I know I come from what David calls a "bloodline family". Just because one carries the genes and is a hybrid, does not make them a reptilian in the way David is refering to them. You've got to be possessed or inhabited in some way by these beings. The genes only make such a thing possible.

I think that maybe you are right , it has to be possesion and the genes makes it possible . But I thinkl everyone has the ability to be possesed by spirits and other creatures. I carry the genes but I am not evil or how to explain it. I try to spread love and positive energy around us :)

[loderlive]

I do not want to have to deal with these people showing up and harrassing me.

Fear

[darketernal]

Fear

To a certain extent it is I suppose. I maintain a balance between knowing how far I push things based upon their view of value due to genetics and as an asset, without anyone feeling a need to risk taking me out. What I do value is the small bit if physical freedom I have left, and basically do not want to commit a felony and go to prison with the only thing to gain from it being a few people on the internet reading it, most of who will just go "yeah ok whatever :rolleyes:". I've already paid a high price for my leaving, and do not want to get involved with these people anymore. If I start dumping classified information, even if it is information already on the internet, onto the web I'm going to have to deal with these people showing up into my life again. It is much easier to just say "Well if I knew things I would tell everyone and damn their reaction!" than to be in the situation and make this choice yourself. LoL

[darketernal]

I think that maybe you are right , it has to be possesion and the genes makes it possible . But I thinkl everyone has the ability to be possesed by spirits and other creatures. I carry the genes but I am not evil or how to explain it. I try to spread love and positive energy around us :)

Right. I've found that many hybrids when not under heavy mind control are sensitive and compassionate people. Perhaps it has to do with the innate empathic and telepathic abilities that run strongly in the bloodlines that lends to this tendancy, or simply the ability to see deeper into the energy fields and the connectivity of things than most people seem to currently. It varies from family to family though. My father's family are virtually all rather vindictive, petty, backstab each other, and seem to be drawn to ritualism of any type. Most of them are very strict Roman Catholic on the outside, but practice black magic in their private life. My mother's family, many of them have a tendance towards being very kind and caring of others IF they are not heavily involved with the Scottish Rite, or have undergone direct mind programming from a young age. My grandfather was a bit hard to figure out in this regard. Prior to him becoming senile and then dying shortly after my mother passed away, he was a very cruel and vindictive man to most people. Very hateful and short tempered. He as a 33rd degree Scottish Rite and had been in Naval Intelligence, and even went so far as to explain to me massive amounts of esoteric knowledge at a younge age, and show me classified things he kept from his Navy days, some of which was pretty amazing. However around his family he as different. He seemed to love ALL of his offspring more than himself. He was very selfless and self-sacrificing when it came to his children and grandchildren.

So again, hybrids in the bloodline families, from my experience, do vary a great deal in thier attitude and level of compassion towards others.

[magicmerlin]

Do people think that if someone has a job linked to the royal family, they 'must' be bloodline, or could they just be very trusted and totally oblivious to the suggested nature of the bloodlines?

[darketernal]

Do people think that if someone has a job linked to the royal family, they 'must' be bloodline, or could they just be very trusted and totally oblivious to the suggested nature of the bloodlines?

It could be either.

[tim the enchanter]

Fear

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[silver_eyes]

jesus i cant believe some of the stupid shit i read on this forum. yes i think that humans were generated by alien lifeforms for some reason. but damn get off this stupid high horse of self importance. im sure alot of people have royal backgrounds through the lines but that does not mean that u are even close to being the same as those beings. i had portuguese royalty in my family and that doesnt mean im a reptilian. and also everyone once in a while i get the "stupid apes" thought stuck in my head but who doesnt? im sure everyone once in a while are disgusted with the people around them. there have also been sexual abuse, drugs and violence in my family but once again i dont think its aliens i think its a family failing to be supportive and nurturing to the people within it that really need special help.

[darketernal]

jesus i cant believe some of the stupid shit i read on this forum. yes i think that humans were generated by alien lifeforms for some reason. but damn get off this stupid high horse of self importance. im sure alot of people have royal backgrounds through the lines but that does not mean that u are even close to being the same as those beings. i had portuguese royalty in my family and that doesnt mean im a reptilian. and also everyone once in a while i get the "stupid apes" thought stuck in my head but who doesnt? im sure everyone once in a while are disgusted with the people around them. there have also been sexual abuse, drugs and violence in my family but once again i dont think its aliens i think its a family failing to be supportive and nurturing to the people within it that really need special help.

Did you even read the thread?

[akujin]

does the house of plantagenet have any links to these bloodlines?

[akujin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_House_of_Plantagenet

[daytimetwilight]

jesus i cant believe some of the stupid shit i read on this forum. yes i think that humans were generated by alien lifeforms for some reason. but damn get off this stupid high horse of self importance. im sure alot of people have royal backgrounds through the lines but that does not mean that u are even close to being the same as those beings. i had portuguese royalty in my family and that doesnt mean im a reptilian. and also everyone once in a while i get the "stupid apes" thought stuck in my head but who doesnt? im sure everyone once in a while are disgusted with the people around them. there have also been sexual abuse, drugs and violence in my family but once again i dont think its aliens i think its a family failing to be supportive and nurturing to the people within it that really need special help.

Well, it was me who started this thread, that was my old user name. By reptilian I mean cold blooded people who don't seem to have any love in their hearts. I didn't mean royalty or anything. I didn't mean shapeshifting lizards either, but perhaps being controlled by some sort of malevolent force.

I don't hate these people either, but I don't go out of my way to see them. If I see them at a family function, I'll give them as much love as possible without compromising myself. :cool:

[tim the enchanter]

While I can't vouch for darketernal, silver-eyes, we're talking about this: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1748

More than this:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3928/dragonmanft0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Are you sure it's us who're making mountains out of mole hills? And you haven't actualy stated what's preposterous about darketernal et al's claims, you haven't made any arguement. Are you going to?

[silver_eyes]

While I can't vouch for darketernal, silver-eyes, we're talking about this: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1748

More than this:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3928/dragonmanft0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Are you sure it's us who're making mountains out of mole hills? And you haven't actualy stated what's preposterous about darketernal et al's claims, you haven't made any arguement. Are you going to?


well it seems to me that if you were connected to the cia and royalty you wouldnt be posting pics of urself in a robe and talking about family secrets on the di website. im sure that this shit would be easy as hell to track. and i cant believe that anyone who or was "on the inside" would even feel like sharing this info. this is just my opinion. im ont gonna make an arguement or a debate out of this. this is the last thing i have to say on this thread...

[tim the enchanter]

Who said I believed dark eternals' claims?

You claim that your convictions are in fact "only opinions" and that you won't engage in debate. Yet you'll snipe from the sidelines.

If it be your wish.

[darketernal]

well it seems to me that if you were connected to the cia and royalty you wouldnt be posting pics of urself in a robe and talking about family secrets on the di website. im sure that this shit would be easy as hell to track. and i cant believe that anyone who or was "on the inside" would even feel like sharing this info. this is just my opinion. im ont gonna make an arguement or a debate out of this. this is the last thing i have to say on this thread...

Is that a threat? You do not scare me little one. :D

[limelady]

Try and keep things nice here please people. :)

Cool bananas!

[tim the enchanter]

Try and keep things nice here please people. :)

Cool bananas!

Would you please define nice?, as I fail to see it's relevance to this thread. :)

[limelady]

In this context of this forum "nice" means completely without threat or malice Tim ;)

Another way of putting it would be debate the issues without getting personal to the point where one member may feel threatened by another......because that's just not nice.

Number 9 on the list HERE (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Nice) probably best describes what I mean, but some of the other examples apply also.

Trust me, it is very relevant to this thread, and in fact ALL our forum threads.


:D

[tim the enchanter]

Well, in the nicest tone one can assume on the internet where one is liable to have one's words fitted to the interpritation of anonymous the reader, I just was illustrating the point that obviously dark-eternal did not feel threatened in any shape or form by silver-eyes. Ask him.

That's all.

[limelady]

Well, in the nicest tone one can assume on the internet where one is liable to have one's words fitted to the interpritation of anonymous the reader, I just was illustrating the point that obviously dark-eternal did not feel threatened in any shape or form by silver-eyes. Ask him.

That's all.

No need to ask him.....but he must have sensed something or he'd not have asked the question and responded in the manner he did...


Is that a threat? You do not scare me little one.

This has been a great thread so far....just wanted it to stay nice Tim.


:)

[darketernal]

Well, in the nicest tone one can assume on the internet where one is liable to have one's words fitted to the interpritation of anonymous the reader, I just was illustrating the point that obviously dark-eternal did not feel threatened in any shape or form by silver-eyes. Ask him.

That's all.

Tim is correct, and yes I let her know, I do not feel threatened, and was clarifying that to him.

Silver-eye my only question is, do you consciously know what you are or are you simply letting a back alter speak through your subconscious? ;)

[silver_eyes]

Tim is correct, and yes I let her know, I do not feel threatened, and was clarifying that to him.

Silver-eye my only question is, do you consciously know what you are or are you simply letting a back alter speak through your subconscious? ;)

ok... over much debate with myself ive decided to come forth again. de im sorry for seeming pessimistic that is not my place to be. But as far the the knowing what i am im not sure. The women in my family seem to think there is something different about me. Not that im bragging but i have a highly developed way of getting what i want from people mentally. I used to think it was just "boyish charm" but with friends, students and teachers at school. i graduated a year ago btw, and people in the work place i always mentally seem to get my way. its like i can soothe people into agreeing with my mind state. its hard for me to describe, its like mind rape charm. also sometimes i can project and extreme tension in the air that people can physically feel, and some friends have described hearing a clicking noise when i do it. i stopped doing it though because it makes them uncomfortable and i dont wanna make my friends feel that way. also on mushrooms i can do esp and i tried it a couple of different times with different people. i think the mushrooms open that part of my brain more. i dont think im all high and mighty and i wish i knew how to develope it more to get alot better use outa it then just parlor tricks with my buddies. ive never felt an evil force also.

[darketernal]

ok... over much debate with myself ive decided to come forth again. de im sorry for seeming pessimistic that is not my place to be. But as far the the knowing what i am im not sure. The women in my family seem to think there is something different about me. Not that im bragging but i have a highly developed way of getting what i want from people mentally. I used to think it was just "boyish charm" but with friends, students and teachers at school. i graduated a year ago btw, and people in the work place i always mentally seem to get my way. its like i can soothe people into agreeing with my mind state. its hard for me to describe, its like mind rape charm. also sometimes i can project and extreme tension in the air that people can physically feel, and some friends have described hearing a clicking noise when i do it. i stopped doing it though because it makes them uncomfortable and i dont wanna make my friends feel that way. also on mushrooms i can do esp and i tried it a couple of different times with different people. i think the mushrooms open that part of my brain more. i dont think im all high and mighty and i wish i knew how to develope it more to get alot better use outa it then just parlor tricks with my buddies. ive never felt an evil force also.

Fair enough. Who said anything about high and mighty? I do not consider the reptilians to be high and mighty... if they were there would be no need to use the energy of humanity for their own ends. I do not believe in a higher being or higher power and I'm sorry if you somehow got the impression otherwise. No one is more or less valuable than another. As far as the question why I'm still alive while posting, I've covered some of it, however it could be summed up with: "I know the rules of the game... my own station within their system and how far I can push things without a confrontation. I know how taking me out fits into their cost-to-benefit analysis."

Learn to relax more. You've got reasonable innate talent, but you've not learned to control it. Learn to meditate and relax, and get off the drugs. Some of them may seem to bring out some of your abilities more, however they cloud your mind, and only enhance your abilities because they remove inhabitions and self-created barriers.
You need to confront your inner-demons if you wish to master your gifts.

[silver_eyes]

Fair enough. Who said anything about high and mighty? I do not consider the reptilians to be high and mighty... if they were there would be no need to use the energy of humanity for their own ends. I do not believe in a higher being or higher power and I'm sorry if you somehow got the impression otherwise. No one is more or less valuable than another. As far as the question why I'm still alive while posting, I've covered some of it, however it could be summed up with: "I know the rules of the game... my own station within their system and how far I can push things without a confrontation. I know how taking me out fits into their cost-to-benefit analysis."

Learn to relax more. You've got reasonable innate talent, but you've not learned to control it. Learn to meditate and relax, and get off the drugs. Some of them may seem to bring out some of your abilities more, however they cloud your mind, and only enhance your abilities because they remove inhabitions and self-created barriers.
You need to confront your inner-demons if you wish to master your gifts.

i plan on starting yoga and to visit a buddhist temple to try and learn more soothing techniques. why do you think the dracos dont just zap you off the face of the earth? why do they let you "push on"?

[tim the enchanter]

Fair enough. Who said anything about high and mighty? I do not consider the reptilians to be high and mighty... if they were there would be no need to use the energy of humanity for their own ends. I do not believe in a higher being or higher power and I'm sorry if you somehow got the impression otherwise. No one is more or less valuable than another. As far as the question why I'm still alive while posting, I've covered some of it, however it could be summed up with: "I know the rules of the game... my own station within their system and how far I can push things without a confrontation. I know how taking me out fits into their cost-to-benefit analysis."

Would it be within your cost-to-benefit scheme to say anything about their cost-to-benefit schemata?

[darketernal]

Would it be within your cost-to-benefit scheme to say anything about their cost-to-benefit schemata?

Possibly, it is a complex issue. What would you like to know?

[tim the enchanter]

Possibly, it is a complex issue. What would you like to know?

Well...what can you tell me? Maybe you can say something as to why it would be in their interest to leave you alone when one presumes they could just slip a poisened icicle dart in you any time they pleased and let it rest. If you have something on them, I imagine they could stop you anytime they like, therefore not even bothering with cost-to-benefit ratios.

[darketernal]

Well...what can you tell me? Maybe you can say something as to why it would be in their interest to leave you alone when one presumes they could just slip a poisened icicle dart in you any time they pleased and let it rest. If you have something on them, I imagine they could stop you anytime they like, therefore not even bothering with cost-to-benefit ratios.

Fair enough.

One, I'm considered property and an asset. Since I only confirm, largely, information which is already in circulation by people whom the general public views as insane anyways... and nothing I type is classified information, I'm not really a threat. After all, I've not provided any proof of identity or credentials, I'm simply another nutt on the internet. Therefore, why eliminate an asset which you've invested efforts in training when you view that as a possibly salvagable resourch, and even if not, still a source of decent genetic material, if they do not pose a serious threat of any kind.

Two, there is a heirarchy to maintain. The reptilians for the most part do not regulate anything within society directly. That is the job of the hybrids. Heirarchy is very very important to hybrids, and because I come from a moderately important line, those lower in the heirarchy won't dare touch me, which leaves those who view themselves my equal or of higher status. Again for the same reasons, they would send someone of status to kill me. Anyone of status, is going to be reluctant to confront me without a clear benefit in doing so, as I'm a very well trained psyop and assassin, and the likelyhood their training is better is slim, thus they take the risk of losing their own life or those of further assets in removing another asset which may not be successful.

Three, humans can be slaughtered like cattle BECAUSE they chose, on some level, to be mindless livestock. Killing someone who does not accept your authority to do so on some level, is a violation of free choice against a highly conscious being. There is a negative energy backlash in so doing which must be accounted for in the balance of things, which is better avoided or directed away from yourself unless circumstances dictate a clear advantage in so doing.

Part of this explination is, in my opinion only of course, part of the reason why say David Icke is left alone.

[tim the enchanter]

"Food for thought", as they say.



Three, humans can be slaughtered like cattle BECAUSE they chose, on some level, to be mindless livestock.


Do they/we? I mean, why would a rational conciousness choose to negate itself?

[malkor]

"Food for thought", as they say.



Do they/we? I mean, why would a rational conciousness choose to negate itself?

You probably haven't met any religiously devoted nutbars.

[darketernal]

You probably haven't met any religiously devoted nutbars.

That is one example of many, and a perfect one. How many religious people do you know who if you asked would say "God has the right and the power to decide who lives and dies, and when. When He says, it is my time, it is my time." If the reptilians, as I believe to be the case, are responsible for the entire concept of God being givin to humanity, and are in fact the creators of the human species via genetic engineering indiginous hominids... THEY are the God who that person has given this permission to. Therefore they have given them full rights to decide when they should die. Therefore a reptilian has not disrupted the balance of energy, or even commited an evil act, if they decide it is time for this person to die, and make sure it happens. The individual gave permission.

[daytimetwilight]

That is one example of many, and a perfect one. How many religious people do you know who if you asked would say "God has the right and the power to decide who lives and dies, and when. When He says, it is my time, it is my time." If the reptilians, as I believe to be the case, are responsible for the entire concept of God being givin to humanity, and are in fact the creators of the human species via genetic engineering indiginous hominids... THEY are the God who that person has given this permission to. Therefore they have given them full rights to decide when they should die. Therefore a reptilian has not disrupted the balance of energy, or even commited an evil act, if they decide it is time for this person to die, and make sure it happens. The individual gave permission.

That's really well said DE. Did you see Zeitgeist? The explanation of god being the sun seemed pretty logical. I'm not saying I believe the sun is god, but they probably do and they made it into a human man to control people and then later use the worship of the earth as a means to control the world. So people have no clue WTF is going on and yeah, basically give consent to their decided death.

[tim the enchanter]

That is one example of many, and a perfect one. How many religious people do you know who if you asked would say "God has the right and the power to decide who lives and dies, and when. When He says, it is my time, it is my time." If the reptilians, as I believe to be the case, are responsible for the entire concept of God being givin to humanity, and are in fact the creators of the human species via genetic engineering indiginous hominids... THEY are the God who that person has given this permission to. Therefore they have given them full rights to decide when they should die. Therefore a reptilian has not disrupted the balance of energy, or even commited an evil act, if they decide it is time for this person to die, and make sure it happens. The individual gave permission.

Okay, but that didn't answer my question, the way I had intended it to be understood (back to that "the internet is anonymos" as I was saying earlier).

What I meant was, why would SANE, RATIONAL, AWAKE INTELLIGENCE choose to negate itself? This is the sort of question being posed in the laboratory by neuro-scientists like Sam Harris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Faith

The question implying, of course, that your avarage person is not particularly rational, sane, awake, intelligent or concious.

[tim the enchanter]

You were talking about god being "they", and that "they" had engineered religion as well as us. I can totally see it, but then if that's the case, where does freedom of choice made by an unhindered conciousness come into it?

[darketernal]

You were talking about god being "they", and that "they" had engineered religion as well as us. I can totally see it, but then if that's the case, where does freedom of choice made by an unhindered conciousness come into it?

Who said unhindered? Even hindered, conciousness still makes a choice. You cannot be forced to believe a belief system. You might be physically beaten into submission or converted at sword point into it, however you still made the choice to believe it or not. I'm not just refering to religion. Political, social, religious systems and others can still apply the same end result.

[mcthompson2x]

This is just abit of background, without getting into the details of my own life. If your family does not have this sort of background or at least be from powerful elite ancestory, I would not worry much about being a hybrid bloodline. Unless of course there is a buried part of your psyche which refers to most people you meet as "stupid apes", which you must continually supress if you want to be a good person. I find most "bloodline" family members deal with a very real fight between their ego and id, and have to actively work at suppressing their negative side.

Could you expand on this, darketernal? I've been tracing my family history and I have Scottish Royalty on my father's side. Don't know much about my mother's side though except that my grandfather is supposed to have come here from Italy and has supposed mafia connections, but I have never met either of my grandfathers. I frequently have long-winded arguments in my mind between what I am starting to recognize as "alters" and something that at least for now, I suspect is my higher conscience. When I want to empower myself I know what to do and I can usually shut up the alters. Lately I have been telling myself that I want to integrate all aspects of my personality and any demonic alters or influences are not allowed. It seems to be working, but I can't really be sure. Lately I have been wondering what information is being fed to me and what information I'm discovering. Since I've realized how powerful I am, my fear is starting to dissipate and I feel a lot better. I feel like fear is the doorway they need to hurt us - if I know they can't hurt me, then they are afraid of even trying because I know that on some level, I am very capable of defending myself. Still, I don't know what's been implanted, what's being sent to me, what I'm thinking of, it's all very confusing. I feel like these alters can be very duplicitous and trick us into thinking they're the good guys by feeding us slightly off information.

[darketernal]

Could you expand on this, darketernal? I've been tracing my family history and I have Scottish Royalty on my father's side. Don't know much about my mother's side though except that my grandfather is supposed to have come here from Italy and has supposed mafia connections, but I have never met either of my grandfathers. I frequently have long-winded arguments in my mind between what I am starting to recognize as "alters" and something that at least for now, I suspect is my higher conscience. When I want to empower myself I know what to do and I can usually shut up the alters. Lately I have been telling myself that I want to integrate all aspects of my personality and any demonic alters or influences are not allowed. It seems to be working, but I can't really be sure. Lately I have been wondering what information is being fed to me and what information I'm discovering. Since I've realized how powerful I am, my fear is starting to dissipate and I feel a lot better. I feel like fear is the doorway they need to hurt us - if I know they can't hurt me, then they are afraid of even trying because I know that on some level, I am very capable of defending myself. Still, I don't know what's been implanted, what's being sent to me, what I'm thinking of, it's all very confusing. I feel like these alters can be very duplicitous and trick us into thinking they're the good guys by feeding us slightly off information.


That is something you will have to work through yourself in determining good from bad infromation known to various alters. It is much better to integrate them then to try to suppress the one's you do not like. They are still aspects of your personality, and the longer you supress them the more they will try to take over control of the whole. Integrate yourself into a single personality and set of memories over time, but always keep in mind who you WANT to be when the process is complete. Those other aspects of your personality will always be present, however the one you chose as who you wish to be, will be the one you become.

Take your time with this, and make sure you can live with remembering what the other alters know. The process of creating DID in someone is by repeated ritualistic trauma which the primary personality is not capable of coping with. The mind will create a stronger, spliter of itself which does not feel pain, or remorse, or love which can handle it. When you tap into that aspect of your personality with the conscious mind you will not like who it is, or what it remembers. It will remind you how weak and pathetic it thinks you are, and how you only survived because of it.

Again make certain you have someone to comfort you, because you will be dealing with the memories of the abuse, and the torture and the horrors you forgot in your conscious mind. You will relive some of it as flashbacks, and you WILL experience it again, but this time with the part of your personality that was unable to handle it before. This is the point where you are most likely to commit suicide to escape those memories, so again it is going to be very important to have people who care about you in your life. I had a shotgun barrel in my own mouth a couple of times, during this phase. Be strong and take your time.

[tim the enchanter]

Who said unhindered? Even hindered, conciousness still makes a choice. You cannot be forced to believe a belief system. You might be physically beaten into submission or converted at sword point into it, however you still made the choice to believe it or not. I'm not just refering to religion. Political, social, religious systems and others can still apply the same end result.

How do you know it isn't largely genetic? Like with the Chomskian revolution in linguistics, but applied to faith.

[malkor]

Okay, but that didn't answer my question, the way I had intended it to be understood (back to that "the internet is anonymos" as I was saying earlier).

What I meant was, why would SANE, RATIONAL, AWAKE INTELLIGENCE choose to negate itself? This is the sort of question being posed in the laboratory by neuro-scientists like Sam Harris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Faith

The question implying, of course, that your avarage person is not particularly rational, sane, awake, intelligent or concious.

The simple answer is a sane, rational intelligence wouldn't choose to negate itself. However, it belongs to a minority and becomes swept away by the masses. Rationality is the enemy to those who want full control. They want to tell humans what to think and how to feel, not how to think nor what to feel.

The best way to beat rationality is with irrationality. Obfuscate reality, bury truth. Under these circumstances, only the most disciplined rational will be able to find a focal center.

[whatistruth]

you maniacs actually believe people from your family are reptillian shapeshifters?

Im sorry, but you need pyscological help, seriously.
Even if you believe the royals are reptoids, thats one thing, but to believe everyone you dont like or percieve as 'cold' as a reptoid, its quackary.

[darketernal]

you maniacs actually believe people from your family are reptillian shapeshifters?

Im sorry, but you need pyscological help, seriously.
Even if you believe the royals are reptoids, thats one thing, but to believe everyone you dont like or percieve as 'cold' as a reptoid, its quackary.

Did you even read the first few pages of the thread? Or did you simply look at the titled and make an asinine comment to make yourself feel superior to everyone who posted in the thread?

[tim the enchanter]

So it's definately not genetic in your view?

[truth_junkie]

Did you even read the first few pages of the thread? Or did you simply look at the titled and make an asinine comment to make yourself feel superior to everyone who posted in the thread?

Dark Eternal,
I hope that the ignorance of others doesn't discourage you from continuing to share on this topic. I greatly appreciate your contributions and have been waiting anxiously for each post.

[darketernal]

So it's definately not genetic in your view?

Much like we breed submissiveness in dogs and other domesticated animals? That would seem to be the case, however one has a choice to follow their genetic inclinations, and social imprinting. I was bred for a role and a purpose which I've rejected. Your kind CAN reject the role of livestock. You have consciousness, therefore you have as much choice and as much power as you wish to have.

[daytimetwilight]

you maniacs actually believe people from your family are reptillian shapeshifters?

Im sorry, but you need pyscological help, seriously.
Even if you believe the royals are reptoids, thats one thing, but to believe everyone you dont like or percieve as 'cold' as a reptoid, its quackary.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/2746415283_68fc47a88c_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2747249632_314bb77be2_o.jpg


http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilianbrain.html

[element]

you maniacs actually believe people from your family are reptillian shapeshifters?

Im sorry, but you need pyscological help, seriously.
Even if you believe the royals are reptoids, thats one thing, but to believe everyone you dont like or percieve as 'cold' as a reptoid, its quackary.

Do you even know what psychology is and how it mesmerises people?
I don't nessesary believe that the royals are reptiles but heck, there is so much possible in this world and beyond.
Your name is ''whatistruth'', well show or tell the truth. :D

[tim the enchanter]

Did someone mention psychology?

http://www.reptoids.com/Vault/ArticleClassics/jungsrin.htm

:D

Also, because some people are too lazyto bother: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21941

[darketernal]

I'm bumping this thread after a couple of people asked for links to it. I'd be happy to continue this discussion if anyone had questions, insights of their own, or just constructive comments.

[velvetexplorer]

Thanks, dark. I've read your posts throughout this thread. I sent you a PM. I don't have anything to add or ask here. :D

[jesta_g]

That is something you will have to work through yourself in determining good from bad infromation known to various alters. It is much better to integrate them then to try to suppress the one's you do not like. They are still aspects of your personality, and the longer you supress them the more they will try to take over control of the whole. Integrate yourself into a single personality and set of memories over time, but always keep in mind who you WANT to be when the process is complete. Those other aspects of your personality will always be present, however the one you chose as who you wish to be, will be the one you become.

Take your time with this, and make sure you can live with remembering what the other alters know. The process of creating DID in someone is by repeated ritualistic trauma which the primary personality is not capable of coping with. The mind will create a stronger, spliter of itself which does not feel pain, or remorse, or love which can handle it. When you tap into that aspect of your personality with the conscious mind you will not like who it is, or what it remembers. It will remind you how weak and pathetic it thinks you are, and how you only survived because of it.

Again make certain you have someone to comfort you, because you will be dealing with the memories of the abuse, and the torture and the horrors you forgot in your conscious mind. You will relive some of it as flashbacks, and you WILL experience it again, but this time with the part of your personality that was unable to handle it before. This is the point where you are most likely to commit suicide to escape those memories, so again it is going to be very important to have people who care about you in your life. I had a shotgun barrel in my own mouth a couple of times, during this phase. Be strong and take your time.

very well said dude, very supportive and insightful of you :)

[darketernal]

very well said dude, very supportive and insightful of you :)

Thank you. That is my goal here most of the time, but I don't have the answers as often as I would like to. ;)

[loderlive]

you maniacs actually believe people from your family are reptillian shapeshifters?

Im sorry, but you need pyscological help, seriously.


Why debunk a place you have chosen to come of your own free will? Is that not the action of a maniac in need of psychological help. Whether you agree with what is being said or not it makes perfect rational for it to be said here.

[mariag]

you maniacs actually believe people from your family are reptillian shapeshifters?

Im sorry, but you need pyscological help, seriously.
Even if you believe the royals are reptoids, thats one thing, but to believe everyone you dont like or percieve as 'cold' as a reptoid, its quackary.

I do not Believe neither do I assume that my family members are Reptilian shapeshifter , I KNOW that they are .
I have seen it with my own Eyes . I know that David Icke is telling the truth . I do not care what you think of me or anyone else but please respect others for what they believe in and what they are . Everyone has the right to say whatever they want to .

[jesta_g]

you maniacs actually believe people from your family are reptillian shapeshifters?


ah yes coincidence theorists nice simple and to the point shame about the ignorance.
believe what you want mate dont fuck with other peoples opinions, its about one of the only rights we have left as a race.

[whatistruth]

I do not Believe neither do I assume that my family members are Reptilian shapeshifter , I KNOW that they are .
I have seen it with my own Eyes . I know that David Icke is telling the truth . I do not care what you think of me or anyone else but please respect others for what they believe in and what they are . Everyone has the right to say whatever they want to .

Take a picture then, or describe how and when you seen them shapeshift, you can't be serious, you just can't.

[mariag]

Take a picture then, or describe how and when you seen them shapeshift, you can't be serious, you just can't.

I am very serious , how ? well it happens very quickly when the emotions sets high such as when they are in anger or extatic mood. The pupils changes form and the skin goes lighter . The air also changes around them ,as for myself I also sense changes in my blood when I get angry even my voice is peculiar when I get angry its animalistic. But the main thing about this so called shapeshift is the eyes and the coldness. Its a snakeish feature .Its a crawling feeling that comes very quickly and the more hyper one tends to get the more anger one feels. Most people don´t like getting angry but They do its almost as if they get high on it so to speak . The eyes are terrifying extremely and the feeling you get is that of someone standing in front of you tall and cold with the most evil eyes you have ever seen and you are paralysed.They use the mind to freeze you .

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You choose from here if you want to belive me or not its up to you , I know what I have seen and I know what happens . If this is real or not its irrellevant to the cause beacuse to me it is very real.

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I have here infront of me a book that my great grandfather wrote in 1936.
It is about our heritage and relatives.
We go back long time ago and all of them inside this book has a connection to Rotchild and Kohler and Schmidt and Greenberg.
you choose to believe in the illuminati or not all I can say is that I beleive every singel word that David and many others say about it.
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My granbdfather was a 33 degree mason and he died before he turned 50 of unatural causes , they claim heartattack but he was extremely healthy and did neither drink , smoke or eat unhealthy food.

My mother is neurothic, my grandmother died alone in her bed at high age . She was a good woman always smiling and very beautyfull , but she never showed neither fear, sadness, grief or remorse for as long as I can remember.
She was telephatic and talked to angels as she claimed were real. She told me things that would make ordinary people jump from fear , but she said it with a smile on her face and she nodded and told me to never be afraid and to fight for what is right .
My uncle is well and alive and have no emotional understandings such as empathy and other human basic features . I was terrified of him when I was a child and I have a clue on why .

Master Olofs Garden

It was founded as a youth centre by the priest Gabriel Grefberg
in 1931( this is my grandfathers brother), when Gamla stan was mostly a slum, and the number of activities quickly grew to include elderly, mothers, scouts, workers, and many other groups. Following a generous donation, the organisation was able to gather its activities to the present location in 1944. Today its services include studies in the history of the old town and the "Gamla stan Society" (Gamla stan sällskapet). The cannon ball in the corner of Skomakargatan, according to popular legend, dates back to the Stockholm Bloodbath in 1520, when it was fired at the Danish king Christian Tyrant. Undoubtedly, it was more likely built into the wall by an early proprietor and subsequently put back into place after each restoration.
A nice place to start a christian charity sociation? Me think not . It is located on sacrificial ground and he was a high degree Mason as was my grandfather and other family members.

[darketernal]

Take a picture then, or describe how and when you seen them shapeshift, you can't be serious, you just can't.

I've known Mariag on here for awhile now, and she is quite serious, and having my own experiences with such things, I find her story believable. However you are certainly free to make up your own mind.

[whatistruth]

I've known Mariag on here for awhile now, and she is quite serious, and having my own experiences with such things, I find her story believable. However you are certainly free to make up your own mind.


I think she's a mentally ill young women, desperately in need of urgent psychiatric help before she harms herself or one of the 'reptoids' in her family.

[boots]

I think she's a mentally ill young women, desperately in need of urgent psychiatric help before she harms herself or one of the 'reptoids' in her family.

Dont be a smart arse.

If you dont like it, don't post derogatory comment's. Don't ruin the thread for other's

What is the truth, well it's subjective. Think about it.

[jesta_g]

I think she's a mentally ill young women, desperately in need of urgent psychiatric help before she harms herself or one of the 'reptoids' in her family.

whats a prick, get yoursel checked mate. theres nae need for that shite at all .
people who open up to this shit have lil or noone to turn to and its pricks like you that make the situation worse.
be her story true or not i will listen to her ,especially on this forum where all "mainstream" thinking is left at the door, there is n harm supporting another through there experiances there is harm in ridiculing someone and being a dickhead to them.

how long have you been on this forum? have you done any investigation at all to prove or disprove any of this? do you have a heart to support another?

.....get a grip

[whatistruth]

Im just being a realist, i don't want to hurt anyones feelings.

I do believe in karma. :)


But i think the greater crime would be for me to lie, I can't say i don't think someone who believes shape shifting reptoids are in their family needs help, that's just the fact of the matter.
There's a point, after all the 'is the pope/bush/prince charlies a reptoid talk is over, where you've even IF you believe that (and i can certainly see the rationale for people doing so), that you've just go to re-evaluate your reality.


There are NO reptoids in your family, that i can say with positive certainty.
But if your delusion is so profound you automatically think im with the reptoids for saying that, i suggest checking yourself into some sort of clinic, and i mean that in the most caring way, i honestly do.


do you have a heart to support another?

Yes, by advising the best thing i can think of, medical help.
The world isnt all evil and im sure you have loving friends and family who will help you.

[jesta_g]

Im just being a realist, i don't want to hurt anyones feelings.

I do believe in karma. :)


But i think the greater crime would be for me to lie, I can't say i don't think someone who believes shape shifting reptoids are in their family needs help, that's just the fact of the matter.
There's a point, after all the 'is the pope/bush/prince charlies a reptoid talk is over, where you've even IF you believe that (and i can certainly see the rationale for people doing so), that you've just go to re-evaluate your reality.


There are NO reptoids in your family, that i can say with positive certainty.
But if your delusion is so profound you automatically think im with the reptoids for saying that, i suggest checking yourself into some sort of clinic, and i mean that in the most caring way, i honestly do.




Yes, by advising the best thing i can think of, medical help.
The world isnt all evil and im sure you have loving friends and family who will help you.


as i said this is a place where anyone can open up be it truth or not. im sure the replies of support and encouragement can only help an individual.

personally I think karma is bullshit and just another form of "hate" which gives the victim of anothers wrong doing a reason to want or get revenge on the other without getting their own hands "dirty" rather than plain and simple good hearted/common sense forgiveness (which is a main key to this "reality").
karma is just part of the system that further seperates us all from being the unified field beings we are. i encourage you begin to use more forgiveness and lend a more open and supportive ear for the well being of others. really "karma" gets noone nowhere fast.

once again be it dilliusional or not i will look past that and have an open ear to anyone.

the fact that you think "medical help" is the best option YOU can think of shows what type of person you are. surely the BEST option is to be a shoulder to lean on and a fiend to talk to.
honestly say what you said to the population around the world that have said they have gone through or witness this kind of ordeal, in particular if a member of your family is a "shapeshifter" im sure you will get a strong answer back - " way back home with medical help shite, we werent talking to you" would be quite close.

please more evidence to your claims rather than ridiculing another ;)

[soap]

stupid apes

It is pretty much accepted now that we did not evolve from apes, but rather, a common ancestor. We have two less chromosomes than the ape therefore making it impossible for any direct evolution from them.

[jesta_g]

stupid apes

It is pretty much accepted now that we did not evolve from apes, but rather, a common ancestor. We have two less chromosomes than the ape therefore making it impossible for any direct evolution from them.

indeed, and there are 316 differences between us and our "nearest ancestor" cro-magnon man.
also a key part to it is the lack of development of our feet etc compared to neanderthal man. they had greater balance as the walked on all of the foot rather than how we do which is oly 70% of the foot that is used, for balance etc.
why would evolution drop something surely of more benefit to the body?

in my opinion we did nt come from apes.

[titan]

Hi everyone, what an excellent thread this is.

Thankyou for sharing ES. I think what you've described has spread a lot of positivity - for me anyway. :)

[musti]

i don't know how this is connected to reptilians or if it is connected at all but i'm just curious if i am the only one here to suffer severe reptile (particularly snake) phobia?

i have the phobia since childhood. i remember having it when i was 5-6 years old and by phobia i don't mean i dislike them or find them disgusting. i have a physical reaction to seeing even pictures. when i was growing up i had to learn all of the snake types and how they are called to avoid accidentally seeing them in an encyclopedia, which i often looked at. once i threw an encyclopedia to the other end of the room and run outside the room without even realizing it.

anyway over the years i educated myself up to a certain extent and if i am prepared i can look at a picture for a brief period of time.

when i learned about reptilians through david icke i was very surprised to say the least.

any insights?

ps: please do not put a snake picture as a prank. few years ago a friend who knew about my phobia joked as we were walking along "oh isn't that a snake" and after i turned yellow he apologized saying that he didn't know it's that serious.

[zen_fox]

Thanks for sharing.

[skyline]

This is an interesting thread

My family name traces back to the St Clairs which I believe are a Bloodline.My Father and uncles were all Queens Guards and Worked at Windsor Castle.My whole family are Rh neg my mum being the only A Rh neg which has been passed onto me

There are blanks from my childhood that even today I cant piece together.My Mum is what I can only describe as the most cold hearted non emotional person I have ever met and I had years of physical abuse from her.Thats was easy to deal with the mental abuse was harder

My Grandparents talked a lot about alien ecounters throughout my youth and I am nearly 39 so this was in the mid 7o's when the subject wasnt as well known.They claimed to have personal experience which is what got me interested in the subject.One event that even talking about made then so scared whcih involved a cigar shaped object hovering over the house and 6 hours missing time

I only speak to my Dad now and all he has to say is the world isnt what people believe it is and that he has seen things that people would not understand,but he refuses to go into detail apart from saying Windsor castle is an important place

My own personal beliefs on the reptilian thing is that certain blood types,ie Rh negs are a portal for Reptilian inter dimensional beings,and thats why the bloodlines are important for the elite,actually important for the reptilians to influnence events.

I also believe certain things have happened in my life and that some people around me have been influenced by maybe a reptilian entity.To control me,my ex wife for example played the same role as my mother

I had an experience years ago with my ex wife who suffered from extreme rage headaches fits of violence and anger.She was sleeping and her face morphed it was so strange and the straw that broke the camels back for me so I left taking my children with me.My wife didnt fight for my kids which is strange if your a mother and today still hard to explain


Rambling on a bit now

[banoyes]

This is an interesting thread

My family name traces back to the St Clairs which I believe are a Bloodline.My Father and uncles were all Queens Guards and Worked at Windsor Castle.My whole family are Rh neg my mum being the only A Rh neg which has been passed onto me

There are blanks from my childhood that even today I cant piece together.My Mum is what I can only describe as the most cold hearted non emotional person I have ever met and I had years of physical abuse from her.Thats was easy to deal with the mental abuse was harder

My Grandparents talked a lot about alien ecounters throughout my youth and I am nearly 39 so this was in the mid 7o's when the subject wasnt as well known.They claimed to have personal experience which is what got me interested in the subject.One event that even talking about made then so scared whcih involved a cigar shaped object hovering over the house and 6 hours missing time

I only speak to my Dad now and all he has to say is the world isnt what people believe it is and that he has seen things that people would not understand,but he refuses to go into detail apart from saying Windsor castle is an important place

My own personal beliefs on the reptilian thing is that certain blood types,ie Rh negs are a portal for Reptilian inter dimensional beings,and thats why the bloodlines are important for the elite,actually important for the reptilians to influnence events.

I also believe certain things have happened in my life and that some people around me have been influenced by maybe a reptilian entity.To control me,my ex wife for example played the same role as my mother

I had an experience years ago with my ex wife who suffered from extreme rage headaches fits of violence and anger.She was sleeping and her face morphed it was so strange and the straw that broke the camels back for me so I left taking my children with me.My wife didnt fight for my kids which is strange if your a mother and today still hard to explain


Rambling on a bit now
This is very curious
skyline and darketernal- your storys ring true -must be a savage thing to deal with

do you happen to know if there is any connection to the Basques in your family
I do think they are the "missing link" in the reptilian equation
Thanks and good luck

[skyline]

This is very curious
skyline and darketernal- your storys ring true -must be a savage thing to deal with

do you happen to know if there is any connection to the Basques in your family
I do think they are the "missing link" in the reptilian equation
Thanks and good luck

I am not sure.I havent heard the name is it connected to the basque people in Spain?I know their concetration of RH neg people is one of the highest maybe there is a link?

I dont pretend to be anyone important and from what I know my family have no influence,quite ordinary really

The abuse thing were beatings for no reason completley out of the blue,from what I have learnt now it was abuse but at the time it seemed normal.I was never allowed friends around and was kept locked in my bedroom during school holidays.My dad never knew this,probably denial and to this day doesnt talk about it.The worse thing and I cant believe I am writing this was constant bed wetting,virtually everyday I would wake up and be soaked.It sometimes happens now,which I find a bit amusing a 39 year dad of two wetting the bed but I am sure it has something to do with the past

I had a reccuring dream when I was a child that sometimes still have about being on a space ship,I can describe it perfectly but the thing that jumps out at me is this feeling of warmth and belonging something I have never felt anywhere,I sound bonkers I know lol.Maybe it was mind trying to escape who knows

I am sure there was outside influence with everything that happened
But I am fine and dandy and if anything it shaped me into the person I am,a crazy conspiracy nut who loves jamiroquai

[banoyes]

I am not sure.I havent heard the name is it connected to the basque people in Spain?I know their concetration of RH neg people is one of the highest maybe there is a link?

I dont pretend to be anyone important and from what I know my family have no influence,quite ordinary really



well your "family" is really not quite ordinary
but
aside from that John Cabot was a Basque,as was LLoyola
and if you look at the migration trail from Sumer it leads in Basque country
(They also speak a language that has no known roots)
no one has ever tried to dislodge them,make them slaves or persecuted them
they seem to have a connection to the highest people in power
alo Magellion , who really never did circumnavigate the world
was lead by a Basque navigator, who really did sail round the world
so
given your blood type and location , I would look to see if John Cabot may be in your family tree
I do think the Basque are the repository for reptilian blood

[pinkfreud]

very insightful thread DE. read through it all and i know u do have reason to hold back some of the things you have experienced, and are aware of. however, why would u wanna risk yourself by posting ur pics here on a DI forum :confused: wouldnt it be that much easier for them to see what inputs you've given and still be able to get a hold of you?

[darketernal]

very insightful thread DE. read through it all and i know u do have reason to hold back some of the things you have experienced, and are aware of. however, why would u wanna risk yourself by posting ur pics here on a DI forum :confused: wouldnt it be that much easier for them to see what inputs you've given and still be able to get a hold of you?

They already know what I post here, and yes this particular thread did cause a few complications for me IRL.

I'm already monitored full time, so making efforts to hide anything I do through a computer, telephone, etc would be wasted effort on my part.

[tejas]

Thanks for the Info DE , I found alot of what you have said very insightful,

Im sorry that you cannot share more as I am fascinated by your story!

My only remaining questions would be regarding the reptillians

Did you see them on a frequent basis? What did they look like, were they as Icke envisoages?

Also what were the belief systems on the metaphysical level?
Ie what is the Reptillian belief about God and the Universe? What are the illuminates main belief systems regarding Birth, Death, astral planes? Higher realmes etc?

You said you saw Ingo Swan Shapeshift, what are your views on Remote viewing, is it CIA mind control?
How do you feel David Ickes view of Infinite COnsciousness Fits into all of this and what are your thoughts about the matter?

Thanks!

[pinkfreud]

DE, i came across this video on youtube called 'best shapeshifting evidence'. i was watching it n it truly is shocking how blatantly these people (brain todd of cnn in this video) do it on live television, yet no one watching seems to ever notice it. this video was slowed down and all the details are there for us to see. to top it all, the story was about putting microchips on troops :eek:


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=lh4TMZ359ZI

what i was curious to find out is whether this video is genuine and if this is indeed, how reptilians shapeshift (asking you since u've witnessed first hand how they do it)

awaiting your inputs on this.

edit: i also read ur post on ingo swann. i went to his site n it has a whole lot of info on the 'biomind superpowers', telepathy, etc. if he is a reptilian, then why is he trying to inform people about hidden knowledge that has been suppressed by the very same bloodlines for thousands of years? unless, of course, he is doing it to mislead and divert us from the real truth.

[jesta_g]

i have reason to believe "jesus" / JEH-SEUS was decended from the "reptilian" race. the original symbol for christianity was a snake on a cross....

this is a segment from a large post i did on another thread. i felt it might raise a few eyebrows and get a few questions and answers going on here.


ok so not only was there a reptilian race in the sirius system but also a "Dog" race?
with this we can see where the egyptian "god" (dog) Anubis came from. Anubis had a Jekyl head (wolf like) and was also symbolc of the star Sirius which is known to many cultures as the DOG star.

Dog = God

when they say "god" they are playing a trick on your eyes.
when someone reads "backwards" what are they said to have? Dyslexia!
Dyslexia - "to go against the law"
"Dys" = to go against , "Lexia" = the law.
"they" are teaching us to read and write from left to right yet all the ancient scriptures are written right to left - aramic (hebrew), syriac (Arabic) etc

so lets "go against the law" and read GOD, becomes DOG.

Anubis is the "GOD" of the "Dead" so who is the "dead"? - the caucus people, the "white" race that is also the Aryan people,
is Caucus (the "dead" people) where we get the word carcass from?

the bible comes from the Egyptian book of the dead which became the Torah then the bible which they will now call it the "new testament" which it is nothing more than the new book of the dead!
what is the new testament? the book of John.
what/who is mathew, mark, and luke? nothing and noone, they didnt exist.
who is Mark? - Mark Antony 82-30 B.C.

who was Mark Antony? he was the "father" of JAH-SEUS !!
JAH = JAHOVAH, God of the "Jews"
SEUS = ZEUS , Deity of the Greeks.

Mark Antony is "Jesus" !!

the father and the son were said to be the same person/god.


Mark Antony was of the people who had "no colour" who were said to be "transparent", they were not "sun" people but "moon" people meaning "of the moon cycle". does this have anything to do with the artificial moon??
which is also where we get the word "Ghost" which is also where we get the name "goat".

GOAT - CAPRICORN/NIMROD/DECEMBER/JESUS

THE RAM WAS ALSO A SYMBOL FOR MARS (MAR=RAM BACKWARDS), MARS WAS THE GOD OF WAR!!

Ghost - the father, the sun and the holy ghost (holy goat!!!)

http://a4.vox.com/6a00ccff9823bf6ea500d4141a23b46a47-500pi

notice the pentagram which is one of the symbols for SATURN/SATAN.

this links also the symbol of the star and the cresent. SATURN and the MOON = SATAN + LUNA .

http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-countries-flags/pakistan-flag.gif

http://www.holyorderofmans.org/mary_o72.jpg

-notice the stars around her head (EU flag = Europa) standing on a CRESENT MOON.

EUROPA (NIN-HUR-SAG, SEMIRAMIS, DANA, DIANA, MARY) who rode on a bull.
http://www.xtywebworks.ns.ca/images/EB1.jpg

Bull is symbolic of NIMROD (Moloch,MINOTAUR, MINOS.) Nimrod was born on the 25dec of a virgin birth and was crucified and reserected.

MINOS is also where we get Moses


who was Mark Antonys wife? Cleopatra 69 - 30 B.C. who was also Known as Hera .

HERA, Daughter of CRONUS (CRONUS = SATURN (SATAN)) was the wife of ZEUS!
ZEUS= JAH-SEUS = JESUS, WHO IS MARK ANTONY!
MARK ANTONY + CLEOPATRA = ZEUS + HERA

ZEUS - BORN ON DECEMBER DEC 25TH, CRUCIFIED ON A TREE AND RESERECTED!

Cleopatra was the daughter of Ptolemy, where we get the Egyptian "god" PTAH (from the book of the dead that later became the bible) which is where we get PETER from the new testament.

Egyptian book of the dead = the bible

PTOLEMY=PTAH=PETER

PTAH is also spet PETEH which is .... PETER.

PTAH - Described as having green skin (reptilian?)

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptah

It was said (in the Shabaka Stone) that it was Ptah who called the world into being, having dreamt creation in his heart, and speaking it, his name meaning opener, in the sense of opener of the mouth. Indeed the opening of the mouth ceremony, performed by priests at funerals to release souls from their corpses, was said to have been created by Ptah. Atum was said to have been created by Ptah to rule over the creation, sitting upon the primordial mound.

In Memphis, Ptah was worshipped in his own right, and was seen as Atum's father, or rather, the father of Nefertum, the younger form of Atum. When the beliefs about the Ennead and Ogdoad were later merged, and Atum was identified as Ra (Atum-Ra), himself seen as Horus (Ra-Herakhty), this led to Ptah being said to be married to Sekhmet, at the time considered the earlier form of Hathor, Horus', thus Atum's, mother.

ATUM-RA = AMEN-RA (The eye of RA)

http://www.artuproar.com/uploads/skins/previews_m/eyeofrabirdie.jpg

RA = HORUS (The eye of Horus)

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/347887/2/istockphoto_347887_eye_of_the_one_dollar_pyramid.j pg

HORUS son of OSIRIS (OF-SIRIUS , the DOG star) GOD OF WAR and was also a "hunters" "GOD", the hunter = ORION .Orion is linked to Sirius the DOG star.

Horus was also described as having 12 followers, born of a virgin to ISIS birth on the 25th of dec, was described as the shephard (pharoah = shephard) and the light.

Horus was also described (same with zeus) a having lost an eye or only having one eye.

THE ANTICHRIST IS DESCRIBED AS ONLY HAVING ONE EYE!!!

http://www.remnantofgod.org/images/Jesus_OneEye.jpg
why does Mel Gibson portray Jesus with ONE EYE through out most of the "passion of christ"????

HORUS=JESUS
JESUS=ANTICHRIST!!!!

watch this!! please :) -
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9tJ_hh4LSg8

And nowadays we have the PTB trying to prove the existence of Jesus' bloodline!! This will see the announcement and the rise of a man (the anti-christ) who will claim himself to be descended from "Jesus" and is the new messiah.
The only bloodline this "man" will be of is MARK ANTONY'S!

Christians have traditionally believed that the Old Testament prophecies foretold that the Messiah would be a descendant of David, and the Gospels of Matthew and Luke therefore trace Jesus' lineage to David in fulfillment of this requirement.

David - was the second king of the united Kingdom of Israel (ISIS-RA-EL). He brought the Ark of the Covenant (The capstone of the great pyramid) to Jerusalem, intending to build a temple. David the son of Jesse reigned over all Israel. The time that he reigned over Israel was forty years; he reigned seven years (7=number of the serpent) in Hebron, and thirty-three years in Jerusalem. When he died Solomon his son reigned in his place.

The Temple of SOLOMON (SOL-ON-MON = 3 NAMES OF THE SUN) is the great pyramid in Giza!!!

[skyline]

DE, i came across this video on youtube called 'best shapeshifting evidence'. i was watching it n it truly is shocking how blatantly these people (brain todd of cnn in this video) do it on live television, yet no one watching seems to ever notice it. this video was slowed down and all the details are there for us to see. to top it all, the story was about putting microchips on troops :eek:


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=lh4TMZ359ZI

what i was curious to find out is whether this video is genuine and if this is indeed, how reptilians shapeshift (asking you since u've witnessed first hand how they do it)

awaiting your inputs on this.

edit: i also read ur post on ingo swann. i went to his site n it has a whole lot of info on the 'biomind superpowers', telepathy, etc. if he is a reptilian, then why is he trying to inform people about hidden knowledge that has been suppressed by the very same bloodlines for thousands of years? unless, of course, he is doing it to mislead and divert us from the real truth.

I havent seen that before quite odd!

James casbolt talks of chimera aliens who can take any form,which makes perfect sense.

[darketernal]

DE, i came across this video on youtube called 'best shapeshifting evidence'. i was watching it n it truly is shocking how blatantly these people (brain todd of cnn in this video) do it on live television, yet no one watching seems to ever notice it. this video was slowed down and all the details are there for us to see. to top it all, the story was about putting microchips on troops :eek:


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=lh4TMZ359ZI

what i was curious to find out is whether this video is genuine and if this is indeed, how reptilians shapeshift (asking you since u've witnessed first hand how they do it)

awaiting your inputs on this.

edit: i also read ur post on ingo swann. i went to his site n it has a whole lot of info on the 'biomind superpowers', telepathy, etc. if he is a reptilian, then why is he trying to inform people about hidden knowledge that has been suppressed by the very same bloodlines for thousands of years? unless, of course, he is doing it to mislead and divert us from the real truth.


I'm not a fan of the shapeshifting videos out there.

However to address your other question about why such individuals would put out information on telepathy... there are many lost and deluted bloodlines out there, and a shortage of psyops and genetic material. By getting involved in this sort of activity one flags themselves for investigation. If someone has a genetic predisposition for telepathy, they are an ideal canidate to have their eggs or sperm stolen, or infant/toddler children abucted later who are still young enough to train or use for their purposes.

Websites, newsgroups, online groups that target those with telepathic abilities are psyops projects as a general rule.

[musti]

hi darketernal,

are you familiar with cassiopaean experiment? if so, can i learn your take on it? they talk about reptilians (which they call lizzies), however, i suspect that it is disinfo (i may be wrong of couse). just curious what you think about it.

[darketernal]

musti, I am sorry, I am not familiar with this work. 90% of the material I am familiar with on everything from conspiracy research to ufology I discovered after joining this forum, and much it because of reading other poeple's references and links.

[musti]

musti, I am sorry, I am not familiar with this work. 90% of the material I am familiar with on everything from conspiracy research to ufology I discovered after joining this forum, and much it because of reading other poeple's references and links.

sorry DE, here are the channelings if you are interested (though as i said i suspect it to be either disinfo or more likely distorted).

http://perceval.netfirms.com/sessions/sessions.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/cassiopaeans/cassiopaeans.htm#Contents


also, here is some sessions which mention "lizzies":

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.bibliotecapleyades.net%2Fvida_alien+l izzies&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

[mariag]

I think she's a mentally ill young women, desperately in need of urgent psychiatric help before she harms herself or one of the 'reptoids' in her family.


Hi whatistruth. Ah well firstly I am not as young as you might think , and refering to my mentally health condition Im perfectly fine and if you need papers to prove that I have them but I frankly don´t give a damn what you think , you have your own opinion and I know what I am and where Im from. My daughter has just been "adopted" by the so called family members and I haven´t seen her for over a month due to the fact that she is in the "right" age for mind control and choosing her breed mate. You see whatistruth your life and mine cant surely be the least similar and I cant expect you to understand neither believe what I am telling but this is the real truth and nothing but. You are FRee and well take this information to deal with how you please.
Love and peace
Anna
alias mariag

[darketernal]

Hi whatistruth. Ah well firstly I am not as young as you might think , and refering to my mentally health condition Im perfectly fine and if you need papers to prove that I have them but I frankly don´t give a damn what you think , you have your own opinion and I know what I am and where Im from. My daughter has just been "adopted" by the so called family members and I haven´t seen her for over a month due to the fact that she is in the "right" age for mind control and choosing her breed mate. You see whatistruth your life and mine cant surely be the least similar and I cant expect you to understand neither believe what I am telling but this is the real truth and nothing but. You are FRee and well take this information to deal with how you please.
Love and peace
Anna
alias mariag

Anna, I am sorry. I know you prepaired her to resist this the best that you could. :(

[pinkfreud]

Hi whatistruth. Ah well firstly I am not as young as you might think , and refering to my mentally health condition Im perfectly fine and if you need papers to prove that I have them but I frankly don´t give a damn what you think , you have your own opinion and I know what I am and where Im from. My daughter has just been "adopted" by the so called family members and I haven´t seen her for over a month due to the fact that she is in the "right" age for mind control and choosing her breed mate. You see whatistruth your life and mine cant surely be the least similar and I cant expect you to understand neither believe what I am telling but this is the real truth and nothing but. You are FRee and well take this information to deal with how you please.
Love and peace
Anna
alias mariag


we are all with you mariag. i will try my best to send out all positivity towards your side, and hope and pray your daughter is safe.

peace be with you.

[mariag]

Anna, I am sorry. I know you prepaired her to resist this the best that you could. :(

Ah well Darketernal I cant actually do anything about this , they have controlled her in so many ways and so many years , the outcome was pretty obvious , but of course it hurts and I want her home , atleast know that she is well and is treated with descenty , thats all I ask at this time. It feels like she is dead in some ways .. but I wont loose hope...

[musti]

Hi whatistruth. Ah well firstly I am not as young as you might think , and refering to my mentally health condition Im perfectly fine and if you need papers to prove that I have them but I frankly don´t give a damn what you think , you have your own opinion and I know what I am and where Im from. My daughter has just been "adopted" by the so called family members and I haven´t seen her for over a month due to the fact that she is in the "right" age for mind control and choosing her breed mate. You see whatistruth your life and mine cant surely be the least similar and I cant expect you to understand neither believe what I am telling but this is the real truth and nothing but. You are FRee and well take this information to deal with how you please.
Love and peace
Anna
alias mariag


hi anna,

you should know that there are many people here who believe you (or at least open to this possibility). i am sorry to hear about your daughter and i really hope that everything gets better and that you don't loose your positivity.

[darketernal]

Ah well Darketernal I cant actually do anything about this , they have controlled her in so many ways and so many years , the outcome was pretty obvious , but of course it hurts and I want her home , atleast know that she is well and is treated with descenty , thats all I ask at this time. It feels like she is dead in some ways .. but I wont loose hope...

I know it hurts, and I know there wasn't anything else you could do to stop it. If there was, they would never have let you raise her. They won't let me raise or ever see any of my own children.

If you need to talk let me know.

::hug::

[mariag]

hi anna,

you should know that there are many people here who believe you (or at least open to this possibility). i am sorry to hear about your daughter and i really hope that everything gets better and that you don't loose your positivity.

Thank you. This loss or how to put it has totally change me in more ways then one,I am although a strong woman and I know that I will survive this but as I told darketernal it hurts like hell . I pray though all the time , I even wear her clothes to feel her close .It might seem bisar in a way but I think this draws me closer to her ..

[tejas]

thanks for the info de , i found alot of what you have said very insightful,

im sorry that you cannot share more as i am fascinated by your story!

My only remaining questions would be regarding the reptillians

did you see them on a frequent basis? What did they look like, were they as icke envisoages?

Also what were the belief systems on the metaphysical level?
Ie what is the reptillian belief about god and the universe? What are the illuminates main belief systems regarding birth, death, astral planes? Higher realmes etc?

You said you saw ingo swan shapeshift, what are your views on remote viewing, is it cia mind control?
How do you feel david ickes view of infinite consciousness fits into all of this and what are your thoughts about the matter?

Thanks!

q + a!!!

[tracker]

q + a!!!


reptilians ?

try this .



http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUa332pcoY&feature=related



:cool:

[tejas]

reptilians ?

try this .



http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUa332pcoY&feature=related



:cool:

Haha nice, but Im more interested actually in what the LIZZIES believe about God, the cosmos and the nature of reality...!

[alkyrius]

Ladies and Gentlemen of this Forum,

My name is Bart (Louie Martijn) van Immerseel. 18 years of age.
I've been following Mr. Icke's work for a while now, and find myself seeing
more and more a believer of his words because my own experiances.
7 years ago i was first contacted by a person who called himself Baphomet.
Who opparated out of the london area at that time. In a nutshell, since then I've seen people who need to consume blood to stay healthy, People with glowing eyes and split pupils, people with controll over elemental forces, I've seen Grays, short and tall and I've stood face to face with a Reptillian who was the size of a tree. I've narrowlly escaped several abduction attempts.
But now, my physiology is changing and my humanity is at risk.

I need a hand to figure out what i have to do now.
I'm fully aware this can not end without blood being spilled, for it has already.
the question is how do i fight back against a better equipt orginization, who can follow my every move, without my following theirs ?

[mariag]

Ladies and Gentlemen of this Forum,

My name is Bart (Louie Martijn) van Immerseel. 18 years of age.
I've been following Mr. Icke's work for a while now, and find myself seeing
more and more a believer of his words because my own experiances.
7 years ago i was first contacted by a person who called himself Baphomet.
Who opparated out of the london area at that time. In a nutshell, since then I've seen people who need to consume blood to stay healthy, People with glowing eyes and split pupils, people with controll over elemental forces, I've seen Grays, short and tall and I've stood face to face with a Reptillian who was the size of a tree. I've narrowlly escaped several abduction attempts.
But now, my physiology is changing and my humanity is at risk.

I need a hand to figure out what i have to do now.
I'm fully aware this can not end without blood being spilled, for it has already.
the question is how do i fight back against a better equipt orginization, who can follow my every move, without my following theirs ?

About Baphomet
The name Baphomet traces back to the end of the Crusades. Around 1250, in an Occitan poem bewailing the defeat of the Seventh Crusade, Austorc d'Aorlhac refers to "Bafomet".

When the medieval order of the Knights Templar was suppressed by King Philip IV of France, on Friday, October 13, 1307, King Philip had many French Templars simultaneously arrested, and then tortured into confessions. The name Baphomet comes up in several of these confessions, in reference to an idol of some type that the Templars were said to have been worshipping. The description of the object changed from confession to confession. Some Templars denied any knowledge of it. Others, under torture, described it as being either a severed head, a cat, or a head with three faces.
Anyway Baphomet is linked to old pagan religon and also the Knight Templars and the Freemasons as a symbol of worship. So in some belifes Baphomet is a symbol of the darkness and in some beliefes he is not.
The Reptilians if you are familiar with the old testament and especially the Genesis chapter 4 you will read that there were sons of the Gods coming down to earth and interbreed with daughters of Eve and the offsprings are called the Nephilims who according to the old testament were the Giants . Now the Giants of this time are connected to politicians and other high posts figures even today due to a certain DNA structure. On the other hand we cant blaime the so called nephilims or reptilians or whatever they might be for the so called " sins" of man and the damage that the system causes , but there are certain spiritual beings that uses a form of contact method in order to create what they believe to be a solution for our planet and its inhabitans . But this contact has been recieved by people that misunderstand the laws of the universe and uses the so called "powers" that they think they have for another goal of turning our world into a New World Order for personal gain not for the sake of human kind.
On the other hand the reptilians you claim you have seen are not to be feared but you might be on your guard but I dont see a point in you being scared . Spirits that uses the elements for negativity uses your fear and anger to create more energy in favour of its cause so fear only releases the negativity.
My advice as I am a believer is this , lose fear and anger , ask the so called reptilian what he or she wants .

[alkyrius]

About Baphomet
The name Baphomet traces back to the end of the Crusades. Around 1250, in an Occitan poem bewailing the defeat of the Seventh Crusade, Austorc d'Aorlhac refers to "Bafomet".


Anyway Baphomet is linked to old pagan religon and also the Knight Templars and the Freemasons as a symbol of worship. So in some belifes Baphomet is a symbol of the darkness and in some beliefes he is not.
The Reptilians if you are familiar with the old testament and especially the Genesis chapter 4 you will read that there were sons of the Gods coming down to earth and interbreed with daughters of Eve and the offsprings are called the Nephilims who according to the old testament were the Giants . Now the Giants of this time are connected to politicians and other high posts figures even today due to a certain DNA structure. On the other hand we cant blaime the so called nephilims or reptilians or whatever they might be for the so called " sins" of man and the damage that the system causes , but there are certain spiritual beings that uses a form of contact method in order to create what they believe to be a solution for our planet and its inhabitans . But this contact has been recieved by people that misunderstand the laws of the universe and uses the so called "powers" that they think they have for another goal of turning our world into a New World Order for personal gain not for the sake of human kind.
On the other hand the reptilians you claim you have seen are not to be feared but you might be on your guard but I dont see a point in you being scared . Spirits that uses the elements for negativity uses your fear and anger to create more energy in favour of its cause so fear only releases the negativity.
My advice as I am a believer is this , lose fear and anger , ask the so called reptilian what he or she wants .

as for Baphomet, If you ask the right people, and find the right documents you can trace him back even further, in celtic times. I know he's been in Ciaro and near the pyramids. Which according to a researcher who's voiced his work on coast to coast am, his name escapes me,the pyramids had celtic influiences of the "goat('s) men" during their construction.

As for the reason the giant reptillian was a problem. that;s because of its massive killing intent and the fact i was lured from my home, in the middle of the night, to an isolated area onlt to be followed home when i discover it was waiting for me and having to stare it down while it was eating live birds.

Let it be clear I'm not afraid. But Grays and Reptillians are not intangable creatures of shadow. They;re living, breathing, ruthless creatures that you can't simply kill with a firearm. For that reason I even acquired some special equipment.
However I am alone in my fight, and it's kept that way artificially. Making it seem that the group(s) who contacted me are the only ways out, promicing me power and dominion over land and people (which i don't want).

[mariag]

as for Baphomet, If you ask the right people, and find the right documents you can trace him back even further, in celtic times. I know he's been in Ciaro and near the pyramids. Which according to a researcher who's voiced his work on coast to coast am, his name escapes me,the pyramids had celtic influiences of the "goat('s) men" during their construction.

As for the reason the giant reptillian was a problem. that;s because of its massive killing intent and the fact i was lured from my home, in the middle of the night, to an isolated area onlt to be followed home when i discover it was waiting for me and having to stare it down while it was eating live birds.

Let it be clear I'm not afraid. But Grays and Reptillians are not intangable creatures of shadow. They;re living, breathing, ruthless creatures that you can't simply kill with a firearm. For that reason I even acquired some special equipment.
However I am alone in my fight, and it's kept that way artificially. Making it seem that the group(s) who contacted me are the only ways out, promicing me power and dominion over land and people (which i don't want).

May I ask you a question? What would you gain from killing aliens with firerarms?
Please dont tell me how "ruthless" they are , in my opinion humans are exactly the same , ah well some of them anyway. I was not saying that you wanted power and dominion over land and people but by the look of it this is the effect you want going on about firerarms. This wont lead you any good .
Violence creates violence .

[alkyrius]

May I ask you a question? What would you gain from killing aliens with firerarms?
Please dont tell me how "ruthless" they are , in my opinion humans are exactly the same , ah well some of them anyway. I was not saying that you wanted power and dominion over land and people but by the look of it this is the effect you want going on about firerarms. This wont lead you any good .
Violence creates violence .

Even jesus said "Sell thy Cloak and Buy a Blade".
I'm aware that violence creates more violence. But sometimes you don't have a choice. I can let myself Die, I can let my very soul, the essence of my very being be defiled. Or I can so no, damn it, It ends here.
Besides..I dont think i even qualify as human anymore anyway.

[mariag]

Even jesus said "Sell thy Cloak and Buy a Blade".
I'm aware that violence creates more violence. But sometimes you don't have a choice. I can let myself Die, I can let my very soul, the essence of my very being be defiled. Or I can so no, damn it, It ends here.
Besides..I dont think i even qualify as human anymore anyway.


:) now thats a thought , I agree in some point . But I just happens to be one of those that think that everyone could help solve problems with love

[alkyrius]

As someone who believes in old codes like chivalry and the bushido code I often thought long and hard on why it is we fight. and basicly it comes down to a simple truth.

We fight because we either want to uphold what it is we want to protect, or to destroy what we want to tear down.

what makes the differance between me and them is that i do the above, differantly then they do.

I fight to protect. Afterall, evil can only triumph when good men do nothing

[measle_weasel]

Three, humans can be slaughtered like cattle BECAUSE they chose, on some level, to be mindless livestock. Killing someone who does not accept your authority to do so on some level, is a violation of free choice against a highly conscious being. There is a negative energy backlash in so doing which must be accounted for in the balance of things, which is better avoided or directed away from yourself unless circumstances dictate a clear advantage in so doing.

Intriguing. This correlates with my own thoughts of humanity. As in they choose what and who they are.

Anyway, questions:

1: How is it known whether a human has specifically given "them" authority over said humans life and death?
1a: How is it known if said human, at a later date, revokes the authority it has given to "them"?
1b: I noticed the example of the religious person saying they would die for God, and that apparently God, as mainstream religions define it, is actually the reptilians, thus saying they would die for the reptilians. What if someones idea of God is not that of the mainstream religions, and they proclaim, either to themselves or otherwise, that they would die for God? Since the God they are referencing would not be the reptilians, I assume that "they" would not have any right to kill over this person, correct?
1c: How can "they" get away with this when they do not fully disclose the terms and conditions of what is essentially a contract, and also, how can "they" get away with this when the human in question does not really know they are signing/agreeing to a contract in the first place? How is the subversion of free will "OK" with this higher consciouseness? It seems to me that doing so would create an imbalance, which apparently this being likes to correct.

2: Who is this "highly conscious being"?
2a: Why does She/He/It care about the balance of things?
2b: Why is the violation of free will a punishable offense?

I had some more questions on some quotes, but I forgot what they were. Doh.

[darketernal]

Intriguing. This correlates with my own thoughts of humanity. As in they choose what and who they are.

Anyway, questions:

1: How is it known whether a human has specifically given "them" authority over said humans life and death?
1a: How is it known if said human, at a later date, revokes the authority it has given to "them"?
1b: I noticed the example of the religious person saying they would die for God, and that apparently God, as mainstream religions define it, is actually the reptilians, thus saying they would die for the reptilians. What if someones idea of God is not that of the mainstream religions, and they proclaim, either to themselves or otherwise, that they would die for God? Since the God they are referencing would not be the reptilians, I assume that "they" would not have any right to kill over this person, correct?
1c: How can "they" get away with this when they do not fully disclose the terms and conditions of what is essentially a contract, and also, how can "they" get away with this when the human in question does not really know they are signing/agreeing to a contract in the first place? How is the subversion of free will "OK" with this higher consciouseness? It seems to me that doing so would create an imbalance, which apparently this being likes to correct.

2: Who is this "highly conscious being"?
2a: Why does She/He/It care about the balance of things?
2b: Why is the violation of free will a punishable offense?

I had some more questions on some quotes, but I forgot what they were. Doh.


And that is what I am standing up against. Because free will is a form of energetic expression it takes the path of least resistence, and it doesn't worry about clauses in a contractual agreement. It goes where it is focused. If you believe that a reptilian being or entity is actually a god, even if you do not fully understand its true nature, and give "god" or the state or any other institution or concept of their origin and control the belief that it has the ability or right to kill you... that is the direction the energy of your free will goes.

This is what is negative about what they do. The killing of you and everyone else is not the problem... its that you've been tricked into giving up the right to live or control of your life without conscious knowledge and understanding of what it is you have done. They've followed the rules of energy and the flow of energy, but have done so in a mannar that disrupts the balance of energies and have maintained an unatural balance in so doing, that disrupts the natural order of the whole.

[stewart edwards]

From what I remember the shapeshift is extremely fast, a second maybe less. Even typing about it I feel my heart racing a little. Their eyes inspire terror in me still to this day. It is not something I talk about.But you just did darketernal, you just did. Fast shapeshift yes, but it was the ridge on the head that I remember most, and the temperature drop in the room. As I posted on another thread on the illuminati forum recentlysome years ago I saw shape shifting in a person.

It was a decade or so ago at a time I was broken, lost and very confused about life. I had given up. All sorts of poop was happening to me and around me and I did not know why. I was under enormous pressure from all directions.

Anyhow one night I went to visit a friend and we chatted about many things. As midnight approached his living room became noticeably very cold (perhaps the central heating had turned off?) and I saw his face shape change - almost like he was going out of focus, and I saw what I would describe as reptilian characteristics. It was quite a profound moment that shook me up. Though I was also very tired, exhausted really, so my eyes may just have been giving out on me.

A few days later I found that he recalled this on his website, though he did state that I saw leonine shapes, but no it was more reptilian, and he told me that several people had seen him shape shift over the years. So one the plus side I wasnt the only person to see this in him. Though it has only happened the once, at a time I was under very severe pressure. He has a good job, is a very nice bloke, very caring, salt of the earth type.

Now part of me says, well hold on you were at breaking point back then matey hence it was just your mind playing tricks on you. But that does not account for his claims that others have said the same. Hence I now have an open mind to the possibility of shape shifting reptilians.

I would say that it wasnt scary, but there was a distinct feeling of power/self-assured almost arrogance emanating from this chap at that time, totally out of character. It was as if he considered himself superior to me. Not threatening though. Was I going mad? Possibly as I say I was being broken by life at the time. But equally his claims that I was not the first to see that in him does keep my mind open. He could of course be lying to me, but why lie about such a thing? This is why I accept that David Icke could be right here. But equally I accept that I was close to a nervous breakdown at the time as could the several other people who saw this in him over the years, assuming that he is telling the truth.

And before you ask, to the best of my knowledge he is not a Freemason. Though he is a druid.I would be very interested in your comments. Also if you have been following my posts on the illuminati forum I would also be interested in your personal opinion of me. Why? You intrigue me.

[tejas]

And that is what I am standing up against. Because free will is a form of energetic expression it takes the path of least resistence, and it doesn't worry about clauses in a contractual agreement. It goes where it is focused. If you believe that a reptilian being or entity is actually a god, even if you do not fully understand its true nature, and give "god" or the state or any other institution or concept of their origin and control the belief that it has the ability or right to kill you... that is the direction the energy of your free will goes.

This is what is negative about what they do. The killing of you and everyone else is not the problem... its that you've been tricked into giving up the right to live or control of your life without conscious knowledge and understanding of what it is you have done. They've followed the rules of energy and the flow of energy, but have done so in a mannar that disrupts the balance of energies and have maintained an unatural balance in so doing, that disrupts the natural order of the whole.

DE What do the Reppies believe about the nature of God, the universe and reality? I was really hoping on some answers, that is if you are allowed to say ;)

[deathcultreject]

A quick post about my own reppie stuff.

Firstly, I'll say that I'm shocked that so many people are reporting harsh and damaging reptilian experiences, because I regard mine as a bit of a laugh, like going in the mosh pit.

The mind control, stalking and trauma based mind control issues around it are what I'm concerned about.

I have 2 power animals, a reptilian and a bear, they both give me strength and endurance, but the reptilian one is more cold, wirey and dangerous.

I think I talked about the reppie thing a bit when I first came on here, I was more prone to MPD symptoms back then because I hadn't made as much progress in removing triggers.

Anyway . . .

I've suffered from sleep paralysis for as long as I can remember, and then one night, I woke up paralysed in a very brightly lit white room with something standing behind me. It's hands were dark grey with long claw like fingers. All my life I had had shudders over the thought of little people with clawing hands like that, and I had assosciated it with burning wood and charcoal.

I sensed it's presence as very fast and dangerous, it was like it was hissing to itself mentaly and I could hear it mentaly. It wasn't trying to frighten me, but it was a formidable presence and I was paralysed.

I don't remember what happened next.

I kind of took it to be a grey, and talked to a correspondent for Fortean Times about it. He told me that reptilian humanoids were reported as well, but it was a recent thing which had become common after a scientist had made a model of what a humanoid dinosaur would look like.

I started to feel that it was an alien shaman that has 'human' for it's power animal, so when it started turning up in the same space as my own body when I was in fairly deep meditation, I accepted it as something to commune with.

I did have a feeling that an alien would be quite unlucky to have humanity (of all things) as it's power animal.

Right. That's enough recollection for one day.

I'll get back to the matter quite soon.

[princess_alexandra]

If my information is correct, all my maternal grandparents have Henry I as a common ancestor.

My mother is Rh-, my younger half-sister and I Rh+. Mom is left-handed--there are a lot of lefties on my maternal grandmother's side--but I'm right-handed.

My son is a lefty. Since my father-in-law is Rh-, my son could be Rh- as well, since my husband and I both carry the gene.

No one in my family has ever shape-shifted to my knowledge.

I think if there is shape-shifting, it's holographics or something. Anyone ever see that 80s cartoon Jem? That could be predictive programming or whatever. :D

[duckandcover]

A quick post about my own reppie stuff.

Firstly, I'll say that I'm shocked that so many people are reporting harsh and damaging reptilian experiences, because I regard mine as a bit of a laugh, like going in the mosh pit.

The mind control, stalking and trauma based mind control issues around it are what I'm concerned about.

I have 2 power animals, a reptilian and a bear, they both give me strength and endurance, but the reptilian one is more cold, wirey and dangerous.

I think I talked about the reppie thing a bit when I first came on here, I was more prone to MPD symptoms back then because I hadn't made as much progress in removing triggers.

Anyway . . .

I've suffered from sleep paralysis for as long as I can remember, and then one night, I woke up paralysed in a very brightly lit white room with something standing behind me. It's hands were dark grey with long claw like fingers. All my life I had had shudders over the thought of little people with clawing hands like that, and I had assosciated it with burning wood and charcoal.

I sensed it's presence as very fast and dangerous, it was like it was hissing to itself mentaly and I could hear it mentaly. It wasn't trying to frighten me, but it was a formidable presence and I was paralysed.

I don't remember what happened next.

I kind of took it to be a grey, and talked to a correspondent for Fortean Times about it. He told me that reptilian humanoids were reported as well, but it was a recent thing which had become common after a scientist had made a model of what a humanoid dinosaur would look like.

I started to feel that it was an alien shaman that has 'human' for it's power animal, so when it started turning up in the same space as my own body when I was in fairly deep meditation, I accepted it as something to commune with.

I did have a feeling that an alien would be quite unlucky to have humanity (of all things) as it's power animal.

Right. That's enough recollection for one day.

I'll get back to the matter quite soon.

I know where youre coming from with the paralysis waking up , i had it once in my youth and it scared the crap outta me:eek: check out what youre post number on this forum is :eek: im off !

[limelady]

I know where youre coming from with the paralysis waking up , i had it once in my youth and it scared the crap outta me:eek: check out what youre post number on this forum is :eek: im off !

His post count is 666 :eek:

No worries....we've all had to move through that number. :D

[deathcultreject]

His post count is 666 :eek:

No worries....we've all had to move through that number. :D

Syncronicity perhaps, I was thinking about the bloodline question, and one side of my family comes from Plymouth Bethren, which is the clan that Crowley was from.

Crowley seemed to take great pleasure in calling himself 'the beast 666'

[deathcultreject]

Does your family have royal lineage? Family membership in the upper ranks of secret societies? A lot of people with very high security clearance jobs? A long history of psychic abilities that are kept as a "family secret" which you do not talk to non-family about? A history of pedophilia mixed in with any/all of the above?

I could get into some psychological questions about your inner demons or suppressed negative side if you like also.

I'll answer this briefly;

Pedophilia, no.

But there was a zeal for 'toughening us up' when I was little. It could be called mild torture with wrestling and joint locks etc. But no joints were ever broken or dislocated when I was young.

There have been one or two jobs with security clearance, but not very high level, as far as I know. My father was fairly high up in the company that built the moon buggy.

A small amount of psychic ability; my mother has transfered images etc. with me, but that's supposed to be common amongst close family anyway.

It's not so much a family secret as something that's regarded as completely unimportant. She told me off for 'showing off' with it once.

The elder women on my mother's side taught me to grow plants which are very closely related to mexican hallucinogen plants.

If there is a reptilian bloodline (rather than a lineage with a reptilian family totem, simmilar to other kinds of animal totems attached to tribes or families) then It lookes like I'm more or less a stray diluted one, and the cold ruthless aspect was activated by accident during childhood trauma.

[deathcultreject]

There was an incident in my late teens when someone close to me saw me shape shift into a giant lizard.

Psylocybin was involved, and even though I was a bit cold and inclined towards violence for fun, I chose humanity during that trip.

I should remember to stay on the straight and narrow with that, and tune in to people with a bit more fur than me.

Just so that I don't get off on the wrong foot with anyone about bloodline issues;

As far as I'm concerned, this is my blood;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtCOprRDUm8

So I'll try to do the right thing,

Not just for my nation, but for everyone who regards my nation with good intentions.

And as for enlightenment and the astral, we can all meet up and have a grand old time if we're lucky.

[runciter]

I did have a feeling that an alien would be quite unlucky to have humanity (of all things) as it's power animal.


lol.. we are like children, but we're growing fast.

[zulabelle]

How would you go about finding out whether or not you have reptilian blood in your family or if you're somehow connected to the bloodlines/illuminati? What exactly do you look for (aside from the obvious surnames)? Because my grandmother is really into genealogy, I could find out, but I don't know what to look for.

I highly doubt anyone in my immediate family is a reptilian, although my paternal grandfather was a 32nd degree mason (I don't remember him though, I only saw him a few times in my life before he died.)

However... I do think that there are genetic parasites (not reptilian necessarily, I don't know what they are but I feel them) that are passed down in families.

[deathcultreject]

However... I do think that there are genetic parasites (not reptilian necessarily, I don't know what they are but I feel them) that are passed down in families.

I'm horrified that someone could feel that way and be capable of typing.

All 'weak' genes are double recessive, but more to the point . . . technology is putting us in a place where the genes aren't even 'weak' any more.

Yes, I know, stop taking the piss, stop pretending to be a cardassian from star trek . . .

seriously though, it doesn't matter.

What matters is wether or not you're a good person.

[susano]

We all live different lives. My family is related to royalty from England (I live in Texas) on my mother's side, and from Royalty in the Austria/Czechloslovokia area of my father's side. My father's family refer to themselves as Bohemian in ethnicty and were kicked out of Czechloslovakia in the 1920's for being murders and practitioners of black magic. On my mother's side my grandfather and great grandfather were both 33rd degree Scottish Rite, and I have several surviving members of that family who are 33rd degree Scottish Rite. My grandfater was also in Naval Intelligence during WWII. I have members of BOTH sides of the family at NASA and one current astronaut. There is a history of extreme ritualistic pedophilia on my father's side, and I actually took two of them to court a number of years ago and testified agains them regarding my own abuse, however ALL of the other witnesses refused to testify even though several admitted to police that it was true, and it was decided with a lone witness willing to testify a court case could not go forward. I'm of course completely cut off from that side of the family, only two of them are on speaking terms with me (my father is one of 7 children).




Holy shit, D.

[susano]

ok... over much debate with myself ive decided to come forth again. de im sorry for seeming pessimistic that is not my place to be. But as far the the knowing what i am im not sure. The women in my family seem to think there is something different about me. Not that im bragging but i have a highly developed way of getting what i want from people mentally. I used to think it was just "boyish charm" but with friends, students and teachers at school. i graduated a year ago btw, and people in the work place i always mentally seem to get my way. its like i can soothe people into agreeing with my mind state. its hard for me to describe, its like mind rape charm. also sometimes i can project and extreme tension in the air that people can physically feel, and some friends have described hearing a clicking noise when i do it. i stopped doing it though because it makes them uncomfortable and i dont wanna make my friends feel that way. also on mushrooms i can do esp and i tried it a couple of different times with different people. i think the mushrooms open that part of my brain more. i dont think im all high and mighty and i wish i knew how to develope it more to get alot better use outa it then just parlor tricks with my buddies. ive never felt an evil force also.


mind rape "charm"?

http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/style_emoticons/default/dained.gif

[catfood]

If the reptilian theory is true there is strong evidence that I would be at least 25% or maybe 50%, but that would make my mum one so i have my doubts. Wish I could tell you more but it would not be wise over the internet.

[darketernal]

If the reptilian theory is true there is strong evidence that I would be at least 25% or maybe 50%, but that would make my mum one so i have my doubts. Wish I could tell you more but it would not be wise over the internet.

Understandable. I suffered repercussions for the info I posted early on in this thread, which I've dealt with, some of which cannot be undone. The info in this thread was not given without sacrifice. This path is a lonely one, so it is not a choice to be made lightly.

[shenoma]

"Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy[a] that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14For the gate is narrow and(R) the way is hard that leads to life, and(S) those who find it are few."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=7&version=47

Understandable. I suffered repercussions for the info I posted early on in this thread, which I've dealt with, some of which cannot be undone. The info in this thread was not given without sacrifice. This path is a lonely one, so it is not a choice to be made lightly.

[enddivision]

Hi all!
I've been a member here for some time but have only just gotten round to adding something.
I can say with absolute certainty that I know that there are shapeshifting reptilians through experience. You see, If my employer's boys are watching, I'll probably be royally fucked, but fuck it, here goes...
I've worked for Lord Carrington for the better part of two years now, and have witnessed four partial shapeshifts in that time (all involved the change of pupil shape from round to vertical slits). The first time was during a conversation with his butler, who has always seemed a nice and friendly person. He was stood no more than three feet from me (I can't for the life of me recall the topic of conversation, it was just everyday crap) and I noticed his irises darkening above and below his 'normal' pupils. Within ten seconds they had intensified into full-blown slit pupils, it was the most disconcerting feeling to be stood there talking to someone who I knew at that point to be something other than fully human.
The second occasion was with Carrington himself. While he was turned toward one of my workmates, the same thing happened, only for a briefer time than before. I can only describe it as two images occupying the same space at the same time, before fading.
There was a third occasion (same effect) with one of my colleagues, one that I don't want to believe myself because of our working relationship, but I have no choice. His personality says it all, though, and I'll get to that. Then, the fourth was the single most creepy, Lord Carrington again. This time he was laughing, and looked straight at me. His eyes were all squinted with laughter, but this time, without my seeing any transformation, his eyes were dark (rather than the usual ice-blue), with somewhat dilated slit pupils. I felt a knot in my solar plexus at that point, and had to look away!
As for the workmate's personality, he shrinks whenever Lordy C. is about, and has a real fear of authority and a rather predictable behaviour pattern, but otherwise is a good person, although he does get frustrated by my inability to follow rules to the letter. One thing uniting all of them during the normal times is their very fierce eyes, with a very eagle-like stare, that's the closest analogy I can think of, they look like eagle eyes.

As for me, I wonder sometimes. My Granddad on my mum's side has tried to trace back our ancestry along his parentage, but comes up blank with one ancestor sometime in either the 18th/19th Centuries. She lived in West Wycombe, at the foot of the hill containing the Dashwood's Hellfire Caves, and her child (our ancestor) was illegitemate, and there is no record of the father. The Hellfire Club had a reputation for adultery and impregnating young women in the area, so I don't know. Since I was very young (too young to know of such matters) I'd had nightmares about dying in a nuclear holocaust, which were horribly vivid, yet elusive in conscious recall. I last had it when I was fourteen (11 years ago), during the last time I had flu (I was delirious and hallucinating, and dreamt of the exact moment of futility and despair as the blast wave came, waking up at the point of physical death).
I've often had a severe battle between two facets of my personality. The one that I prefer is the compassionate, spiritual side. The other, which has weakened somewhat, is hateful, selfish, bitter, full of rage and thoughts that fill me with horror (not so much these days). I have looked, sometimes at almost all people, as 'stupid fucking apes'. The interesting thing is LC's attitude toward me. He always seems to look for my approval with every piss-take he makes at others expense, and his entire family seem to hold me in great esteem, for some reason. On occasion, he even treats me in a 'father-son' kind of fashion, a 'that's my boy!' thing. One time recently, he mentioned something about 'animal-lovers', equating them with the sort that blow up vivisection 'scientists' homes etc. that made my blood boil! I never let on, not even in my expressions, yet he reacted by practically scrutinising me again and again while he spoke, showing a hell of a lot of interest. One thing though, I find it extremely hard to feel any compassion when I'm around him, it just won't come out! Like it isn't there anymore. Make of all that what you will. I only stay there because of the experiences and snippets of info that I get, not because of any support for his and his ilks agenda.

[siphon880di]

Stay strong enddivision. Stay strong.

[rhydra]

A seed of a memory, came to me last night but I can't really find the words to explain. Some parasite that feeds of conscious entities, it doesn't have a consciousness of it's own but absorbs that of other sentient beings such as reptilians, greys and others, even other humans. They transverse the multidimensional seeking out energy like a mosquito seeks Co2. That is why people see such when they feel they are being fed off, the visions are the residual energies of the last feed. Probably doesn't make much sense but it came to me as I was meditating.

Edit, I also have this idea that they don't touch Draco for some reason, not sure about the significance.

[lordreptoid]

Not sure which book off hand, but Icke mentions the obvious that some forget (not all), and not just in the books, but also when presenting live and in person, that "even some of these reptilians, the one's we're talking about here tonight, are posessed by this dark force, what I call the Luciferian consciousness, and if it were not for that invasion they'd probably be quite another experience altogether..." (close approx. paraphrase)

If anyone ever finds that Time magazine photo I held in my hand once (don't ask me how) of Bill Clinton's face close up, and his STAR BURST pupils, let me know privately also as you post it here or anywhere else... readers of the DI forum HAVE to see that one for themselves as I did, it's VERY clear and a truly striking image to behold. I saw it the day it came out and missed my chance to "get a copy" for my x-files drawer. *sighs* Tough luck. I think it might have been about 1999 or 2001. Try 1999 first if you are into searching it out somewhere.

Good luck and be safe.

Blessings.

PS: Don't let the G2 rogues get to you, "enddivision". They're not all the same, trust me on that one... or just read my website and keep seeking even further, you'll see I'm right.

[darketernal]

Hi all!
I've been a member here for some time but have only just gotten round to adding something.
I can say with absolute certainty that I know that there are shapeshifting reptilians through experience. You see, If my employer's boys are watching, I'll probably be royally fucked, but fuck it, here goes...
I've worked for Lord Carrington for the better part of two years now, and have witnessed four partial shapeshifts in that time (all involved the change of pupil shape from round to vertical slits). The first time was during a conversation with his butler, who has always seemed a nice and friendly person. He was stood no more than three feet from me (I can't for the life of me recall the topic of conversation, it was just everyday crap) and I noticed his irises darkening above and below his 'normal' pupils. Within ten seconds they had intensified into full-blown slit pupils, it was the most disconcerting feeling to be stood there talking to someone who I knew at that point to be something other than fully human.
The second occasion was with Carrington himself. While he was turned toward one of my workmates, the same thing happened, only for a briefer time than before. I can only describe it as two images occupying the same space at the same time, before fading.
There was a third occasion (same effect) with one of my colleagues, one that I don't want to believe myself because of our working relationship, but I have no choice. His personality says it all, though, and I'll get to that. Then, the fourth was the single most creepy, Lord Carrington again. This time he was laughing, and looked straight at me. His eyes were all squinted with laughter, but this time, without my seeing any transformation, his eyes were dark (rather than the usual ice-blue), with somewhat dilated slit pupils. I felt a knot in my solar plexus at that point, and had to look away!
As for the workmate's personality, he shrinks whenever Lordy C. is about, and has a real fear of authority and a rather predictable behaviour pattern, but otherwise is a good person, although he does get frustrated by my inability to follow rules to the letter. One thing uniting all of them during the normal times is their very fierce eyes, with a very eagle-like stare, that's the closest analogy I can think of, they look like eagle eyes.

As for me, I wonder sometimes. My Granddad on my mum's side has tried to trace back our ancestry along his parentage, but comes up blank with one ancestor sometime in either the 18th/19th Centuries. She lived in West Wycombe, at the foot of the hill containing the Dashwood's Hellfire Caves, and her child (our ancestor) was illegitemate, and there is no record of the father. The Hellfire Club had a reputation for adultery and impregnating young women in the area, so I don't know. Since I was very young (too young to know of such matters) I'd had nightmares about dying in a nuclear holocaust, which were horribly vivid, yet elusive in conscious recall. I last had it when I was fourteen (11 years ago), during the last time I had flu (I was delirious and hallucinating, and dreamt of the exact moment of futility and despair as the blast wave came, waking up at the point of physical death).
I've often had a severe battle between two facets of my personality. The one that I prefer is the compassionate, spiritual side. The other, which has weakened somewhat, is hateful, selfish, bitter, full of rage and thoughts that fill me with horror (not so much these days). I have looked, sometimes at almost all people, as 'stupid fucking apes'. The interesting thing is LC's attitude toward me. He always seems to look for my approval with every piss-take he makes at others expense, and his entire family seem to hold me in great esteem, for some reason. On occasion, he even treats me in a 'father-son' kind of fashion, a 'that's my boy!' thing. One time recently, he mentioned something about 'animal-lovers', equating them with the sort that blow up vivisection 'scientists' homes etc. that made my blood boil! I never let on, not even in my expressions, yet he reacted by practically scrutinising me again and again while he spoke, showing a hell of a lot of interest. One thing though, I find it extremely hard to feel any compassion when I'm around him, it just won't come out! Like it isn't there anymore. Make of all that what you will. I only stay there because of the experiences and snippets of info that I get, not because of any support for his and his ilks agenda.

Brother definately stay strong. If you need any support let me know. Your programing is breaking down. How old are you btw?

[enddivision]

Brother definately stay strong. If you need any support let me know. Your programing is breaking down. How old are you btw?

I will stay strong, I will. Thanks to all of you for your kind words. I'm 25, BTW.
I forgot to mention a dream that I had before I'd read The Biggest Secret, must have been late 98/early 99. It involved mine and a friend's discovery of underground passages, leading to some cavernous 'base' that was really the top entrance to a larger understructure. Copper seemed to feature heavily in it's construction, although the tunnels to the surface resembled Victorian London Underground brickwork. It was there that we encountered reptilian entities. They didn't notice us, at first. It was when the 'human' congregation had gathered there, that we were noticed by one that we knew. She wanted to know what the hell we were doing there, and to leave as soon as possible.
Then, the lead 'human', a strikingly attractive woman in her forties, wearing purple robes, addressed the crowd, ranting in a very Hitleresque manner, then she shapeshifted into a reptilian. We, obviously ran and hid in the copper 'building', and saw the lift shafts going downward. Someone had known we were there, because one lift came up, carrying three reptilians dressed in what looked like a combination of Gestapo and Men in Black outfits, accompanied by armoured reptilian security. We managed to escape from there and return to the surface. I'd never known quite how to place this dream until I'd read through The Biggest Secret, when it all suddenly clicked into place.
I have seen an other-dimensional reptilian-type being in my bedroom when I was 15. It was 7 feet tall, with leathery skin similar in visual texture to a White's Tree Frog. It had very large black eyes tapering inwards, flared nostrils right between them, a heavy 'lantern-jaw', high cheekbones and a wide, lipless mouth with 'webbed' shoulders from the base of the jaw. I felt no threat or ill intent from it, once I'd gotten over the initial shock, I felt a warm, fuzzy feeling throughout my body. Once I'd gotten up out of bed to get a better look, he/she/it lost clarity, and faded out in a riot of coloured light. I still remember that, clear as day. The skin looked wet, which is what made me think 'frog'.
We've had psychics in my family, again on my mum's side, although there are plenty of 'paranormal' phenomena encountered on my dad's side. (he has had a history of drug and alcohol abuse, he is now addicted to smoking heroin, unfortunately, but he doesn't have much to do with us nowadays, so I don't get to see him. He used to be physically violent also, both with me and my mum, nearly killed/ severely injured me when I was a baby, throwing a coffee mug, in a temper, that made a hole in the door just inches above my head, but I pity him more than anything.)

[siphon880di]

Did the reptilian just stare at you, turn his head back a little, then to the side, as if he was analyzing you?

I heard someone said a reptilian did that in which I responded that I totally believe some of the reptilians do because I've seen them did it before right in front of me.

I will stay strong, I will. Thanks to all of you for your kind words. I'm 25, BTW.
I forgot to mention a dream that I had before I'd read The Biggest Secret, must have been late 98/early 99. It involved mine and a friend's discovery of underground passages, leading to some cavernous 'base' that was really the top entrance to a larger understructure. Copper seemed to feature heavily in it's construction, although the tunnels to the surface resembled Victorian London Underground brickwork. It was there that we encountered reptilian entities. They didn't notice us, at first. It was when the 'human' congregation had gathered there, that we were noticed by one that we knew. She wanted to know what the hell we were doing there, and to leave as soon as possible.
Then, the lead 'human', a strikingly attractive woman in her forties, wearing purple robes, addressed the crowd, ranting in a very Hitleresque manner, then she shapeshifted into a reptilian. We, obviously ran and hid in the copper 'building', and saw the lift shafts going downward. Someone had known we were there, because one lift came up, carrying three reptilians dressed in what looked like a combination of Gestapo and Men in Black outfits, accompanied by armoured reptilian security. We managed to escape from there and return to the surface. I'd never known quite how to place this dream until I'd read through The Biggest Secret, when it all suddenly clicked into place.
I have seen an other-dimensional reptilian-type being in my bedroom when I was 15. It was 7 feet tall, with leathery skin similar in visual texture to a White's Tree Frog. It had very large black eyes tapering inwards, flared nostrils right between them, a heavy 'lantern-jaw', high cheekbones and a wide, lipless mouth with 'webbed' shoulders from the base of the jaw. I felt no threat or ill intent from it, once I'd gotten over the initial shock, I felt a warm, fuzzy feeling throughout my body. Once I'd gotten up out of bed to get a better look, he/she/it lost clarity, and faded out in a riot of coloured light. I still remember that, clear as day. The skin looked wet, which is what made me think 'frog'.
We've had psychics in my family, again on my mum's side, although there are plenty of 'paranormal' phenomena encountered on my dad's side. (he has had a history of drug and alcohol abuse, he is now addicted to smoking heroin, unfortunately, but he doesn't have much to do with us nowadays, so I don't get to see him. He used to be physically violent also, both with me and my mum, nearly killed/ severely injured me when I was a baby, throwing a coffee mug, in a temper, that made a hole in the door just inches above my head, but I pity him more than anything.)

[enddivision]

Actually, it was the strangest thing, it didn't even seem to register me one bit, just stood there for a while before vanishing. Well, with black eyes, it was impossible to tell exactly where it was looking, but it didn't seem to notice me.

[tiamet2012]

were related then walker bush meadows?

[tiamet2012]

family bloodline its like this blood will turn against blood etc ect......so your not bad but it will take the blood of a good one to beat the evil I will stand by you!

It will just have to happen before people will understand etc etc...

[tiamet2012]

I am in the bloodline .......................

I am walker meadows bush family memeber and didnt know nothing until a UFO awoke us

It all has been thrown at me us and after finding out all this and seeking answers to what is to come...........well, its gonna take one blood against blood and now I know the meanings.......

I hope we get our inheritance like Obama did....he lived poor He was in line great grand father died with the will in his pocket

[morphal]

Regarding the Clinton photo with the starburst pupils, I would like to see that. I was looking up some info on frogs and found that they have very amazing pupils... some have starshaped pupils, some heart shaped, some triangular... seems like a big connection to the strange things that go on in the eyes of our suspected hybrids.

ref: http://www.allaboutfrogs.org/weird/general/eyes.html

Then I looked up a little more about frogs eyes and found a couple of weird facts:
--"When a frog swallows food, it pulls its eyes down into the roof of its mouth. The eyes help push the food down its throat."
--"Humans and other mammals focus images by changing the shape of the lens. Like a camera lens, frog eyes focus by moving the lens back and forth."
ref: http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/frogs/life/eyes.php

Having seen some definitely indisputable slowed down videos of strange eye effects - beyond the slit pupils - like a double set of eyelids, eyes rolling around and going black, sometimes it looks like the hybrid or whatever they are is pulling their eyes into the roof of their mouth... lol... perhaps a psychological reaction to their thoughts of blood and death, or power and control over humans... I think the reptilians are related to frogs! Maybe the reptilians are frog-human hybrids.

I'm not sure if I understand the way the frogs eyes focus like a camera, but wonder if anyone might make that connection between how the frog's eyes focus and some effects that are apparent when a hybrid's eyes reveal themselves.

[octopusrex]

Again, playing devils advocate, I would counsel you to make peace with the beast or beasts in your family. No sense in holding a grudge on for too long. People change. And NOBODY is ever all evil.

[enddivision]

I agree. Much of the time, I hope that the Illuminati hybrids can wake up with the rest of us, along with their extra-dimensional cohorts. It does seem only fair for them to have their chance at redemption for their crimes. One day, I wish to be able to shake hands and embrace them as other expressions of The One, and vice-versa!
There are lizards who 'drop their eyes' into their skulls in order to swallow, although the reptilian eye appears to be more like that of a bird than anything, only with the 'starburst' slit pupils (not all of them, some have round pupils). There are amphibian-type ETs who are more like humanoid Axolotls, but reptilians are more likely dinosaurian - the only group we know to have the evolutionary prerequisites to become them. BTW: For those who are confused on such matters, Crocodiles, 'Gators and Turtles are reptiles, not amphibians. Amphibians are those who have (generally) smooth skins, and always lay soft, shell-less jelly eggs that hatch into tadpoles. Reptiles lay shelled eggs on dry land that hatch into miniature adult forms. Of course these reptiles are amphibious (being happy on land and in water), but not actual amphibians. Mind you, the same can be said for some humans, since humans have an affinity for water that most primates lack. Reptilian heritage?

My reptilian sightings and encounters were preceded by a UFO sighting (witnessed by me, my mum, and my brother), the UFO flew over our car, and we stopped to get out and get a better look. It was kite-shaped (ish), and totally silent. That was in 1994. I was 10 at the time, but it is burned into my mind.

[amethyst]

Hi all!
I've been a member here for some time but have only just gotten round to adding something.
I can say with absolute certainty that I know that there are shapeshifting reptilians through experience. You see, If my employer's boys are watching, I'll probably be royally fucked, but fuck it, here goes...
I've worked for Lord Carrington for the better part of two years now, and have witnessed four partial shapeshifts in that time (all involved the change of pupil shape from round to vertical slits). The first time was during a conversation with his butler, who has always seemed a nice and friendly person. He was stood no more than three feet from me (I can't for the life of me recall the topic of conversation, it was just everyday crap) and I noticed his irises darkening above and below his 'normal' pupils. Within ten seconds they had intensified into full-blown slit pupils, it was the most disconcerting feeling to be stood there talking to someone who I knew at that point to be something other than fully human.
The second occasion was with Carrington himself. While he was turned toward one of my workmates, the same thing happened, only for a briefer time than before. I can only describe it as two images occupying the same space at the same time, before fading.
There was a third occasion (same effect) with one of my colleagues, one that I don't want to believe myself because of our working relationship, but I have no choice. His personality says it all, though, and I'll get to that. Then, the fourth was the single most creepy, Lord Carrington again. This time he was laughing, and looked straight at me. His eyes were all squinted with laughter, but this time, without my seeing any transformation, his eyes were dark (rather than the usual ice-blue), with somewhat dilated slit pupils. I felt a knot in my solar plexus at that point, and had to look away!
As for the workmate's personality, he shrinks whenever Lordy C. is about, and has a real fear of authority and a rather predictable behaviour pattern, but otherwise is a good person, although he does get frustrated by my inability to follow rules to the letter. One thing uniting all of them during the normal times is their very fierce eyes, with a very eagle-like stare, that's the closest analogy I can think of, they look like eagle eyes.

As for me, I wonder sometimes. My Granddad on my mum's side has tried to trace back our ancestry along his parentage, but comes up blank with one ancestor sometime in either the 18th/19th Centuries. She lived in West Wycombe, at the foot of the hill containing the Dashwood's Hellfire Caves, and her child (our ancestor) was illegitemate, and there is no record of the father. The Hellfire Club had a reputation for adultery and impregnating young women in the area, so I don't know. Since I was very young (too young to know of such matters) I'd had nightmares about dying in a nuclear holocaust, which were horribly vivid, yet elusive in conscious recall. I last had it when I was fourteen (11 years ago), during the last time I had flu (I was delirious and hallucinating, and dreamt of the exact moment of futility and despair as the blast wave came, waking up at the point of physical death).
I've often had a severe battle between two facets of my personality. The one that I prefer is the compassionate, spiritual side. The other, which has weakened somewhat, is hateful, selfish, bitter, full of rage and thoughts that fill me with horror (not so much these days). I have looked, sometimes at almost all people, as 'stupid fucking apes'. The interesting thing is LC's attitude toward me. He always seems to look for my approval with every piss-take he makes at others expense, and his entire family seem to hold me in great esteem, for some reason. On occasion, he even treats me in a 'father-son' kind of fashion, a 'that's my boy!' thing. One time recently, he mentioned something about 'animal-lovers', equating them with the sort that blow up vivisection 'scientists' homes etc. that made my blood boil! I never let on, not even in my expressions, yet he reacted by practically scrutinising me again and again while he spoke, showing a hell of a lot of interest. One thing though, I find it extremely hard to feel any compassion when I'm around him, it just won't come out! Like it isn't there anymore. Make of all that what you will. I only stay there because of the experiences and snippets of info that I get, not because of any support for his and his ilks agenda.

It's very understandable to experience feelings of "hateful, selfish, bitter, full of rage" when your dignity and self worth have been assaulted repeatedly thru abuse and demoralization of your being. This is very wrong to treat another person this way, so your feelings are certainly understandable under the circumstances.

Do not condemn yourself for those feelings, but try to work thru them and learn self forgiveness and forgiveness of others.

[lordreptoid]

Maybe the reptilians are frog-human hybrids.

Not "the reptilians"... SOME, yes... it seems there are more AMPHIBIAN races that have nothing to do with the G2 reptilians that Icke speaks about (as opposed to the other 90% of reptilians and their distant cousins that have nothing to do with G2).

There are MANY different races of reptilians and not all were born from planet Earth and not all belong to the same way of thinking or action. Everyone needs to be aware of their words and thoughts on that truth.

IE: There are African American FreeMasons, for instance, but not all Africans are Masons. Does everyone see this truth yet? It's not about looks, it's about energetic alignment. Some people found "Yoda" hideous, ridiculous or "weak old man", but he was a strong positive character/example for humans just the same in that movie.

PS: Whitley Strieber met the frog people before he met the greys. There-in lies some other clues as to frogs and humans perhaps.

[enddivision]

I don't believe for a second that the negative reptilians constitute a majority. I've often been at loggerheads with those self-righteous, 'holier than thou' Christian Patriots who believe that they are creations of 'Satan'. Those people have a right to their opinions, but start condemning you as evil for daring to say otherwise. In short, they are a pesky nuisance. Like anyone with a rigid belief system. :)

[octopusrex]

Perfectly good reason to put a red dot on their mailbox!!! :D:D:D:D:D

[darketernal]

I don't believe for a second that the negative reptilians constitute a majority. I've often been at loggerheads with those self-righteous, 'holier than thou' Christian Patriots who believe that they are creations of 'Satan'. Those people have a right to their opinions, but start condemning you as evil for daring to say otherwise. In short, they are a pesky nuisance. Like anyone with a rigid belief system. :)


I am familiar with this faction, End. The Christian Identity movement is a brainchild of the bloodline brotherhood, and I know more than a little about it.

[siphon880di]

Wait isn't G2 a classification of the reptilian's star/solar system? Their sun isn't too different from our sun then.

Also what's scary is that Jay Z in the song Umbrella by Rihanna claims he has "Rockafella" bloodline, that when the 30 greatest companies of "Dow Jones" have lost stocks, then the entities of the "G5" will have suceeded in creating what economists call a financial storm ("storms without clouds") or stock market crash, and then they will be gone. The "storm without clouds" is a financial storm. This is right in front of people's face too: MTV music.

Ahuh ahuh (yea Rihanna)
Ahuh ahuh (good girl gone bad)
Ahuh ahuh (take three... action)
Ahuh ahuh
No clouds in my storms
Let it rain, I hydroplane in the bank (Rihanna: eh eh)
Comin' down with the Dow Jones
When the clouds come we gone
We Rocafella (Rihanna: eh eh)
She fly higher than weather
And she rocks it better
You know me
An anticipation for precipitation, stacks chips for the rainy day (Rihanna: eh eh)
Jay, rain man is back with little Miss Sunshine
Rihanna where you at?

There seems to be more than one negative alien-type player here from different solar systems. I have a feeling that the G5 type are the Gods that the G2 reptilians worship. That means they're being manipulated by the G5 just like humans are.

[morphal]

Enddivision - what is a humanoid Axolotls?
I must say your stories of working for lord carrington sticks in my mind. Did you ever think that you are a sort of pet for him? The way he shows himself to you, kind of like he's amusing himself... and the way he treats you, kind of like a son.

LordReptoid... thanks for the info on the frog-people and the clarification. Yes, I agree, definitely not 'the reptilians are frog-humans' but that there's a possibility that some strain is. I imagine that there are as many different types that would qualify as reptilian as there are that would qualify as human-like or humanoid. The greys, for example, do you see them as reptilian?

Dark Eternal, can you elaborate on the Christian Identity movement?

[lordreptoid]

The greys, for example, do you see them as reptilian?

No. Depends how wrinkly the tall ones might be one might see that in a certain light, but technically, no.

[octopusrex]

Momma, don't be stickin' yer tounge at me!

Look.. It might come as a surprize to most of ya, but the sad truth is that...

...WE ARE ALL REPTILIAN!!!

(more or less)

[enddivision]

Enddivision - what is a humanoid Axolotls?

Well, what I meant was, that there are the amphibian humanoids who resemble either an Axolotl (a neotenous [never fully matures] salamander that lives in Mexico, having feathery gills branching out of the sides of their heads), or the 'Gillman' from Creature From The Black Lagoon'. They are generally held to be benevolent, very ancient and wise creatures. Stewart Swerdlow mentions that they originated here on Earth, before earthly reptiles evolved, and certainly way before the Dinosaurs, but that they are a dying race, holding out in isolated areas here and on other worlds.


I must say your stories of working for lord carrington sticks in my mind. Did you ever think that you are a sort of pet for him? The way he shows himself to you, kind of like he's amusing himself... and the way he treats you, kind of like a son.

Yeah, that interpretation of it makes sense, now I think about it. He has two Dachshunds that he dotes over, but is only tolerant of them when they are totally obedient (I've heard him scream at them many times, he sounds like Emperor Palpatine sometimes!). He's like that with his workers, cannot tolerate anyone contradicting him, or proving him wrong. The first thing that I learned from the others was 'Don't EVER disagree with him. If have a different opinion, keep it to yourself and nod to whatever he says, regardless'. One day (never too soon), I'm gonna have a riot disagreeing with him, just to see how far I can push him! Have to get another job lined up first, though.

Speaking of 'amusing himself'... I was meditating last night, and allowed myself to get into 'that state' between wakefulness and sleep, where voices start to be heard. I found that I could keep myself in that zone and control it. I then noticed a figure, in my 'mind's eye', stood to the right of me. I focused on it and I realised that I was being visited by a reptilian entity, as I noticed the scales on it's large body. It then started asking me various questions (I can't quite remember what it was saying exactly, but it must be something to do with my posting my experiences on this forum) with a sense of frightened and angry urgency in it's 'voice' (which at first sounded female), in what was obviously an astral interrogation of some kind. I wasn't 'playing ball' with it, refusing to answer it's questions and psychically laughing at it. Eventually, the encounter began to change slightly, and it's irritation turned to amusement, as it started laughing back at me, as if it was finding something funny that I wasn't aware of. In the end, I'd turned everything on it's head and started to ask it my own question, interrogating the reptilian, but the bastard just kept laughing and saying things to goad me on. I got the sense that it is one that is operating within a physical body here on earth, and asked it who it was. It kept carrying on, chiding and laughing in that woman's voice, and at one point had 'walked over' and leaned in close to my ear. Because I'd posted something about that Tzipi Livni bitch, and her dead eyes, I pointedly asked it whether it was her. All of a sudden, it replied in a completely male voice, "NO!" Then it was gone.
I'm gonna try that meditation again tonight, I want to see if I can get hold of another 'visitor', or even the same one, and see if I can get some decent info out of she/he/it.

I tried to project Love into Lordy C. this morning, and had more luck. He didn't react much, but he began to fidget with his hands, began to look a little impatient, and his eyes looked normal, but had the slit pupils showing behind his human eyes.
Gonna keep feeding Love vibes into LC to see how far I can get him to 'drop his cover', I'd love to get others to see him suffer an involuntary shapeshift, that'd be a hoot! I am actually finally getting the grasp of using humour to ward off negativity

[QUOTE=morphal;790862]
The greys, for example, do you see them as reptilian?
QUOTE]

There are some. The 'suited' ones that Credo Mutwa speaks of, and the reptilian/insectoid hybrids. There are others that aren't reptilian; the insectoid/human hybrids (these are the ones that absorb liquid nutrients through their skin, as do the reptilian/insectoid hybrids), and some that appear to be robotic/cybernetic constructs. There are many other subgroups, including those that are force-grown genetic constructs used as cheap, expendable workers.
I think that the style of the suit that the 'pinky-pinky' reptilians use is meant to confuse people as to who is abducting them - there are benevolent greys - as much as for protection from UV radiation (they are like most troglodytic lifeforms, having no pigment in their bodies whatsoever, making them vulnerable to burning, and eventual death in the sun, but can tolerate it for very short periods). Explains why they usually come out at night.

[irish]

heres a crazy idea :eek: ....... why not just ask him about it all.
So hes a grumpy, rich, old man..... sounds like a lot of old men I know! aint just personality trates saved for reptilians...

[enddivision]

...And have him call the loony bin to cart me away? Thanks, but no thanks. I don't want to lose my only source of income at the moment, want to get another job lined up first. Also, I've met plenty of Grumpy Old Men, but that isn't my point. No one wants everyone around them to fit into their demands for obedience, not like the veiled fascist attitudes of this 'man'. Plus, no other 'GOM' has eyes that take on slit pupils while he's talking. Everyone around there practically shit themselves whenever he's around, yet the 'public image' he puts forth is one of a jolly old man - in my experience, a false persona, but he's bloody good at it!

[morphal]

Speaking of 'amusing himself'... I was meditating last night, and allowed myself to get into 'that state' between wakefulness and sleep, where voices start to be heard. I found that I could keep myself in that zone and control it. I then noticed a figure, in my 'mind's eye', stood to the right of me. I focused on it and I realised that I was being visited by a reptilian entity, as I noticed the scales on it's large body. It then started asking me various questions (I can't quite remember what it was saying exactly, but it must be something to do with my posting my experiences on this forum) with a sense of frightened and angry urgency in it's 'voice' (which at first sounded female), in what was obviously an astral interrogation of some kind. I wasn't 'playing ball' with it, refusing to answer it's questions and psychically laughing at it. Eventually, the encounter began to change slightly, and it's irritation turned to amusement, as it started laughing back at me, as if it was finding something funny that I wasn't aware of. In the end, I'd turned everything on it's head and started to ask it my own question, interrogating the reptilian, but the bastard just kept laughing and saying things to goad me on. I got the sense that it is one that is operating within a physical body here on earth, and asked it who it was. It kept carrying on, chiding and laughing in that woman's voice, and at one point had 'walked over' and leaned in close to my ear. Because I'd posted something about that Tzipi Livni bitch, and her dead eyes, I pointedly asked it whether it was her. All of a sudden, it replied in a completely male voice, "NO!" Then it was gone.
I'm gonna try that meditation again tonight, I want to see if I can get hold of another 'visitor', or even the same one, and see if I can get some decent info out of she/he/it.

I tried to project Love into Lordy C. this morning, and had more luck. He didn't react much, but he began to fidget with his hands, began to look a little impatient, and his eyes looked normal, but had the slit pupils showing behind his human eyes.
Gonna keep feeding Love vibes into LC to see how far I can get him to 'drop his cover', I'd love to get others to see him suffer an involuntary shapeshift, that'd be a hoot! I am actually finally getting the grasp of using humour to ward off negativity




Enddivision - you're fascinating, and it's late for me so I won't write for long. I wonder how you know all of this, especially being relatively young. I never heard of LC but I wonder how he feels about your outing him on here. Well I hope he doesn't read this but you could try to taunt/provoke him into a shift while you are secretly filming him... know what I mean?

You're clearly very receptive. I wonder if you know how to shield yourself. It's great you're using humour. Probably the most powerful thing influencing the encounter is: that you're not afraid.

I think, about the 'pet' thing, that the kinds of people a hybrid or reptoid like LC would take as a pet would be probably hybrid themselves, like - you're in the bloodline circle, somehow, whether you know it or not - and whether you can trace it or not. That kind of makes sense with this encounter you had last night also - that entity was amused by you and playing with you... again, the pet thing, seems to me not how a typical human would experience an astral encounter with a reptilian.

[lordreptoid]

Love cannot be used as a trick to "out" anyone - they cancel each other out. Either your love is sincere or a cover for your true intent. Be careful with that and be clear about your own true deeper intent. Do you truly wish to learn or just poke someone with a stick repeatedly to see what happens? Start with a bear first and get used to that before playing around between realities and those who may walk between worlds as easily as some obviously can. I'm doing my best to keep you safe and self-aware. Be sincere about your motives and you may get "farther" in your quest for truth. Don't expect results right away once you open that door. For instance, if I sensed you were up to no good with me at first and then cleared up your aura/intent/love vibe towards me later, I'd still take a long time to really open up to you no matter how loving and honest you suddenly became. You don't have to "trust me" on this truth, but they are KNOWN for their patience when it comes to keeping a low profile and not trusting others swiftly. He'll be a very patient man about some things like this and VERY SWIFT when it comes to making the final decision to just see you out of there. As you said, and it's a wise move, back up plans for your own survival first... but most importantly a sincere loving aura that angels would be proud of is key - keep that mind open and white light around you. :) Maybe you'll make a friend, or at least a new acquaintance on the "inside" in some manner.

PS: Regarding the "pet" notion... there are encounters where many humans are well treated but still considered "pets" of some reptilian and other ETs. Perhaps it's a bit like what a wild rabbit feels when people spot one and say "awe..... so cute!" when it hops about and then twitches its nose.

[beldazar]

Momma, don't be stickin' yer tounge at me!

Look.. It might come as a surprize to most of ya, but the sad truth is that...

...WE ARE ALL REPTILIAN!!!

(more or less)


Yes, quite right! We all have the r-complex....

And anyway...something struck me the other day, its about the white aryan race and the reptilian race that are supposed to follow each other over the galaxy. I believe they follow each other because they ARE each other!

Ive also thought about how we are all connected, 22 chromosomes, 22 different species...each of these species may have 22 chromosomes belonging to other species, and so it goes, interconnecting EVERYTHING!

That would explain the anomalies, the man who grew what seem like roots, webbed feet, tongue rolling, tails, dwarfism, gigantism, aversion to sunlight, allergies, scaly skin, etc.....

Also explains how there is so much in our animal kingdom that have the same traits as us, angler fish, web throwing spiders, etc...

We really ARE connected and not just on a soul level

[shenoma]

Some of them have a huge human fetish has well, sort of like an Asian fetish. Instead of yellow fever, it's human fever.:D



PS: Regarding the "pet" notion... there are encounters where many humans are well treated but still considered "pets" of some reptilian and other ETs. Perhaps it's a bit like what a wild rabbit feels when people spot one and say "awe..... so cute!" when it hops about and then twitches its nose.

[darketernal]

Yes, quite right! We all have the r-complex....

And anyway...something struck me the other day, its about the white aryan race and the reptilian race that are supposed to follow each other over the galaxy. I believe they follow each other because they ARE each other!

Ive also thought about how we are all connected, 22 chromosomes, 22 different species...each of these species may have 22 chromosomes belonging to other species, and so it goes, interconnecting EVERYTHING!

That would explain the anomalies, the man who grew what seem like roots, webbed feet, tongue rolling, tails, dwarfism, gigantism, aversion to sunlight, allergies, scaly skin, etc.....

Also explains how there is so much in our animal kingdom that have the same traits as us, angler fish, web throwing spiders, etc...

We really ARE connected and not just on a soul level

There is some truth to this.

[beldazar]

thanks Darketernal, I cant explain myself that well but perhaps the different 'aspects' of us occur in each different plane of existence? :confused:

At least 'I' know what I mean ;)

[lordreptoid]

Some of them have a huge human fetish has well, sort of like an Asian fetish. Instead of yellow fever, it's human fever.

You bet. :) Some sure do. "Squishy fever". ;) (Reptoids are very strong muscled compared to soft humans) "Hug 'em an' squeeze 'em an' call them whatever I want to call them." Perhaps it's like going to the pet store and picking out a puppy. (Cuddle fest!") It also might be like those who have a thing for whales, and in the human population there's plenty of those around. Falling in love with something seen as just as beautiful if not more so than your own kind. Also didn't a fellow fall in love with his pony, "marry her" and end up on Jerry Springer but it didn't air because it was "too controversial"? LOL Humans will try anything once, or thrice just to be sure they "don't like it". ;) Yeah, right... just to be sure they DON'T Like it. No relation to Bonobo chimps at all there, no. ("Hi, I'm a Bonobo chimp, first we bonk, then we get to know each other in other ways, then we bonk each other's wives, then we let them watch us bonk as guys, then we watch them bonk, that way we know we're all cool with each other and stuff.") Humans are NOTHING like that, are they? *Coughs "college" coughs again "childhood" and once more coughs "adult porn"* Sorry about that, something was, er, stuck in my throat. :) Anyway, plenty of hybrid animals out there doing the wild thing of their own preferences and not by human hand (although I've heard they like that too... hands are rather nice to have and experience). *smirks* I used to feed a family of... well... whatever they were... half goose, half duck... "Gucks"?... "Doose"?... Hmm. There were 6 of them and they never separated from each other, all adults and well fed... they were far from shy. Nature does that all the time. Obviously there's an attraction there, quite literally. It's everywhere, this "cross over" between species. Why would nature stop doing this at the ET level? Careful boys... I speak with some authority that some reptoid females like to draw you out at night for late night walks under the moonlight for some pleasures of the most animalistic and yet deeply spiritual manifestations. Helpful hint: Let her take the lead. ;) It's far better.

[morphal]

Do you truly wish to learn or just poke someone with a stick repeatedly to see what happens?

This is true - enddivision, you might be playing with fire if you attempt to 'poke' LC and catch his reaction... in fact, you're probably already playing with fire, with the writing and the astral encounters, but it's likely too that you're protected, on the inside. I hope you are safe.

[enddivision]

Enddivision - you're fascinating, and it's late for me so I won't write for long. I wonder how you know all of this, especially being relatively young. I never heard of LC but I wonder how he feels about your outing him on here. Well I hope he doesn't read this but you could try to taunt/provoke him into a shift while you are secretly filming him... know what I mean?

You're clearly very receptive. I wonder if you know how to shield yourself. It's great you're using humour. Probably the most powerful thing influencing the encounter is: that you're not afraid.

I think, about the 'pet' thing, that the kinds of people a hybrid or reptoid like LC would take as a pet would be probably hybrid themselves, like - you're in the bloodline circle, somehow, whether you know it or not - and whether you can trace it or not. That kind of makes sense with this encounter you had last night also - that entity was amused by you and playing with you... again, the pet thing, seems to me not how a typical human would experience an astral encounter with a reptilian.


Never thought I was that fascinating, to be honest, but appreciate the compliment! As for the stuff I don't know from direct experience, I read everything that I can, from as many different sources as I can lay my hands on. Much of it may be wrong, but there is good information that all feels intuitively correct even if the accounts seem to contradict each other, especially with regard to the origins of the Greys. My feeling is that there are multiple sources for what is essentially a 'catch-all' term for a particular physical type, similar to Wolves and Tasmanian Wolves (look similar, but have slightly different origins).

As for LC, as Lordreptoid has said, I do think he is being patient. His attitude toward me hasn't changed perceptibly, but I don't bear him any ill-intent (as I bear no other ET - reptilian or otherwise - any ill-intent). I've noticed that these particular hybrids always seem to have dogs with them (usually as inbred as they are). Dogs are able to perceive levels that we don't normally access, but they have no problem - likely because they are kept from a young age - but then, they probably sense the latent reptilian genetic traits within all other people, so think it normal. Perhaps it is a symbolic connection to Sirius, the Dog Star?

My true intentions are to learn, to put it simply. I want to inform and be informed, as I have throughout my life (and I've taken a lot of shit for it, believe me! Not as much as David Icke has, but I've had mass-ridicule on a microcosm of what he has experienced, back during secondary school years. You don't mention Extraterrestrial reptiles and expect what you say to be accepted, to say the least!).

I would like to encounter that particular entity (from my meditation) again, maybe we can find some common ground to base a friendship, or a 'working' relationship, may help for greater understanding on both sides. Creating understanding between different parties is what I've always done in my human friendships, befriending different groups of people who otherwise can't stand one another, and eventually getting them into the same room together having a good laugh! Might be my reason for being here in this lifetime, who knows?

[irish]

You don't want to lose your job and your scared of this person with odd semingly slit pupils... so your posting info about him on the web for all to see!

First of all ok the job thing I understand. You have weight up the pros and cons of employment and possibly learning about things outside your knowledge from this individual. And besides he may not give you any info if you do ask. I 100% understand your cognitive process there. But a lot of beings won't bite your head of if you ask questions, even the bastards.

But I'll tell you something if I was him, and imagining myself here to be a mean old man possibly possesed. I would be very very pissed if I found out you were posting about me the internet (so be worried about that if anything). And I wouldn't dream of doing it to any of my bosses, even doe they were all feckers and I ended up lossing all my jobs after 2months because I speak the truth to there face. I would have the balls to say what I had to, to there face or not mention it at all. At least he would respect that even if he was in opposition to what you had to say.

Its a interesting story you share but all I've got from this is he is a nasty old man who is seemingly alien. Well theres plenty of nasty old men that are human I don't get what he has done inparticular besides be intimitating and mean like lots of bosses I have incountered. Please elaborate I am interested in your story.

And lordreptoid the bear and the stick thing lol you just reminded me of when I did that with a bull... funny thing is you would think I would of learned the first time... i was young... thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it :D

[enddivision]

As I said before, I don't bear him any ill-will/bad feeling. To be honest, he isn't especially grumpy, just a control-freak. I don't wish him any harm in my posting this infomation, I just think it important that others know what I have seen. For me, it constitutes hard evidence for his true nature, my only problem with these shapeshifters is: Why do they have to hide their true selves from us? I'm sure that people would eventually be able to handle it, maybe even learn something valuable about themselves in the process. In a truly free society, I'd want to see all sentient species living in harmony, I'm sure everyone else here would agree there.

Oh, just this morning, LC told us a pretty funny story about when he was going to an engagement at the Madame Tussauds 'Chamber of Horrors', he'd gotten into his car, back before his current chauffeur, and told his previous driver to "take me to the Chamber of Horrors". He nodded off in the back of the car, and was woken up a while later by the chauffeur, saying "we're here". He looked out of the window, and saw that he'd been taken to the House of Lords! We all had a good laugh about that! :D

I sincerely hope that these guys can wake up with the rest of us, I'm sure we can find it in us to forgive them for their past misdeeds.

[lordreptoid]

endvision... look how I'm treated... do you think anyone with even more genetic differences wold fair better than I? No.

You speak of "forgiveness" - I refer you to the "Amnesty" suggestion by Jim Sparks (See COHRA site). Without amnesty, the ability to clean up the entire planet (as we are already past the point of no return and are well into a total collapse of the entire ecosystem) the technology that's in use (them only) will never be used publicly. See Alfred Webre regarding exopolitics and truth amnesty disclosure as well, he's most active on this front. Also see Steven Bassett (both fellas read my posts daily). Anyone who's serious about healing the planet needs to get on the cutting edge of this truth and get this EXISTING technology out there, and amnesty may really be the only saving grace we all have left before certain suffocation and starvation... and we know the military only has enough room for their chosen ones in their underground cities/bases. Ponder that as the "other option" of doing nothing and hanging on to hate and fear rather than amnesty and forgiveness.

PS: I like his chauffeur's sense of humour. :D

[enddivision]

Amnesty is the only way, I cannot agree more. To react to the control and destruction with fear and aggression is only playing into the Illuminati's game, and will only result in solidifying their control, and the cycle of chaos and wanton death and destruction will continue. They are ruled by fear, so won't give up the technology and basic knowledge that can heal this world due to their fear of; 1) what we will do with it, and 2) what we'll do to them. An angry mob would only confirm those fears for them, and deepen their mindset. Amnesty will at least set their minds at ease - if it can be agreed upon universally among the populace.

PS: There is racism, and its related delusion of genetic superiority. In my opinion, it's childish, unevolved, and again, born of Xenophobia. Says one hell of a lot more about those who dish it out like confetti than it does about the recipients/victims (of course, one is only a victim if one allows him/herself to be, I have been in that state myself, to be honest) - pretty pathetic and fearful. I like what John Rhodes' 'Declaration of Allegiance' says on the matter of anti-reptilian discrimination. Actually, I'd read about the Jim Sparks encounter around nine years ago, his statements about amnesty stuck in my mind even then, I'd since forgotten his name, so thanks for bringing his account back to my attention! :)

[lordreptoid]

Awesome, enddivision. :) *big grin* Seems we have a few connections that way. You are very wise, and I respect and admire that quality in any being. *bows politely* Wisdom is superior to all other forms of thought (especially non-thinking and reacting only).

I am a bit worried as to how rough this phase will be as it unfolds. *sighs* How far will some go to attack, and what of defense of the greater good? I remember Billy Meyer explaining the little black box they let him hold and how to send a destructive thought to it and how he watched a hole appear in the trunk of a tree - and upon further inspection the "silent invisible beam" actually went for a kilometer or so and through a few trees, gutting them completely, which terrified him. The Pleiadians said, "If we need to, we are fully capable of defending ourselves... but we'd rather not have to." I can imagine this technology in the hands of the common person. Myself, for merely being a bit more scaly than other humans, would have been killed off many times over by fearmongers and xenophobic reactionists. It's this fact that frightens those who already have such technology and why they'd kill to keep a lid on it so no one knows about this stuff. I might not agree with the situation at all personally, but I fully understand the dilemma from all sides and angles.

As the thread is titled "Reptilian family members"... perhaps it will be one of them who finally help put an end to the lies so that we can BOTH (ALL) save this world that we ALL SHARE and depend on for survival. (hint hint from a chimera hybrid)

[shenoma]

The Buddha of Wisdom appearing in a Wrathful Aspect :D

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6000/dkalarupaff5.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dkalarupaff5.jpg)

His wrathful expression indicates that he destroys ignorance, the real enemy of all living beings, by blessing them with great wisdom; and also that he destroys the obstacles of pure Dharma practitioners.

Wrathful deities are enlightened beings that take on wrathful forms in order to lead sentient beings to enlightenment. They are a notable feature of the iconography of Mahayana Buddhism and of Tibetan Buddhism, and other Vajrayana traditions in particular. A wrathful deity is often an alternative manifestation of a bodhisattva or other normally peaceful figure. True to their name, in Tibetan art, wrathful deities are presented as fearsome, demonic beings adorned with human skulls.

Though these images seem contradictory to Buddhist ideals, they are not personifications of evil or demonic forces. Rather they symbolize the dynamic activity of an enlightened being, brought forth to tame negative or unsettling impulses in the human mind. In addition to destroying the passions of the mind, the purpose of gods is also to protect the faithful. The wrathful deities, who symbolize the tremendous effort it takes to vanquish negativity, especially perform this function.

Yama, a holy man was told that if he spent fifty years living in deep meditation in a cave, he would reach enlightenment. On the night of the twenty-ninth day of the eleventh month of the forty-ninth year, two robbers entered his cave with a stolen bull whose head they proceeded to cut off. When they realized that the hermit had witnessed their act, they decided to kill him. He begged them to spare his life, explaining that in a few minutes he would reach enlightenment and that all his efforts would be lost if they killed him before the expiration of the fifty years. The thieves ignored his request and cut off his head. Immediately, he assumed the ferocious form of Yama and put the bull’s head on his own headless body. He then killed the two robbers and drank their blood from cups made from their skulls. In his fury, he threatened to destroy the entire population of Tibet. The Tibetan people appealed to the deity Manjushri (the Bodhisattva of wisdom), to protect them from Yama. Manjushri then assumed the form of Yamantaka (conqueror of death), defeated Yama, and turned him into a protector of Buddhism, in order to save the people.

Sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind,that's if you have wisdom.;)

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51288&page=11

[nessa felagund]

I've just deleted an insulting post on this thread. Whether you believe in reptilians or not is your business, but please do not insult or ridicule other members who do.

[enddivision]

I read it, I wasn't going to dignify it with a response.

[shockhead]

But if you were even part Lizard Person wouldn't you be part of the elite, filthy rich and successful?

[shockhead]

No but many of my managers at work are Lizard People for sure. This is not a mockery or a joke, a few of my co-workers and I read David Icke's books, we exchange info from the various books and with this info we can see right through thier so called hidden agendas.

[darketernal]

This is my past, and it no longer matters. I am not my past, nor am I the things I have done in my life. I've learned to love myself, and even my reptilian alter has started to learn to forgive himself. I forgive myself for all that I have done and for the horrible things done to me that led me down that path.

I'm a beautiful person, full of compassion and caring. The past is only of value to me for the lessons it has taught me. I love the person I am. My life must now focus on the present... the right now... and the future.

My heart is full of beauty and love, and this is what I chose to project, and I know humanity and this world have a future where we will be a world based on love, where we will at last be free and make our own destiny.

If I can do this, so too can all of you reading this who have experienced things like I have. There is hope and you can be healed.

[mariag]

This is my past, and it no longer matters. I am not my past, nor am I the things I have done in my life. I've learned to love myself, and even my reptilian alter has started to learn to forgive himself. I forgive myself for all that I have done and for the horrible things done to me that led me down that path.

I'm a beautiful person, full of compassion and caring. The past is only of value to me for the lessons it has taught me. I love the person I am. My life must now focus on the present... the right now... and the future.

My heart is full of beauty and love, and this is what I chose to project, and I know humanity and this world have a future where we will be a world based on love, where we will at last be free and make our own destiny.

If I can do this, so too can all of you reading this who have experienced things like I have. There is hope and you can be healed.

I am very happy for you to have been able to reach this far.
All my best wishes for you ......;)

[boots]

This is my past, and it no longer matters. I am not my past, nor am I the things I have done in my life. I've learned to love myself, and even my reptilian alter has started to learn to forgive himself. I forgive myself for all that I have done and for the horrible things done to me that led me down that path.

I'm a beautiful person, full of compassion and caring. The past is only of value to me for the lessons it has taught me. I love the person I am. My life must now focus on the present... the right now... and the future.

My heart is full of beauty and love, and this is what I chose to project, and I know humanity and this world have a future where we will be a world based on love, where we will at last be free and make our own destiny.

If I can do this, so too can all of you reading this who have experienced things like I have. There is hope and you can be healed.


Even your reptilian alter:eek::) That's fantastic DE. Mate I'm truly happy for you.

[14april2000]

My question was to obvious so remove it.

[makedonija77]

There is something that drives me towards Reptillians, I think I have tons of reptillian blood. People in my family...lol..

There has been sexual abuse, substance(drug and alcohol) abuse, and tons of physical and verbal abuse.

This is not from being cold blooded, but hot blooded instead, my dad especially, this is why I find his side of the family interesting, my dad, my grandfather and half brother all have unique characters.

My father is very hot blooded, short tempered, full of life and loves joking around. Frankly when you piss him off he goes crazy. He once threw a chair at me for refusing to go to school and randomly took my mom by the throat and threw her on top of the bed for yelling at him for yelling at me.

He likes fooling around too much, whenever he'd piss me off I'd tell him what annoys me he just says coldly...yeah...but you came out of my testicles. I just can't keep a straight face with this LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

My brother is extremely smart, a good conversationalist, has strong beliefs, and has my dad's hot bloodedness, except he's kinda different because he had a troubled childhood he doesn't take much to people messing around with him so he either avoids them or if he has to face them he usually does with extreme aggression and anger, he's about 5'8 the same height as my dad and pretty damn skinny in build, he doesn't have alot of muscle or fat and his ribs don't show type of skinny, he's just small and skinny, but has alot of power and knows how to commit the worst acts of violence and aggression like most of my family does, and as my father, loves joking around and has a unique sense of humor.

My grandfather...I don't know about him much, died in 2004 God forgive him, I know they fled to Bulgaria in the late 1940s during the Greek civil war in Drama when Greek agents killed his brother for speaking Macedonian to my great grandmother who didn't know or understand Greek.

I know he had some healing powers, alot of people paid him to massage them. That great grandmother died at the age of 105, when I was 1 year old, and was the oldest woman in Stip at the time.

As for reptillian blood, if you saw me in real life, you'd understand and alot of the nerdy roleplayers on this forum would probably have a heart attack or something.

My basketball manager who is my best friend's uncle, he has these crazy eyes, he isn't tall or muscular or anything, he's bald, he has a small beer gut, his voice isn't loud or soft or anything, it's deep, idk there's just something about him that makes him seem like a very powerful man in terms of physical ability.

LOL alot of people of that family are high up in places....

I just feel since I have alot of rich and prominent family members and friends, I feel there's just something else...

I don't feel normal, I am a little bit too narcassistic at times, and I do feel blessed, or chosen, or something, and my mind pattern is abnormal, I mean like I'm not retarded or anything :D

I just don't think like anyone else. I would feel I fall into the Reptillian mind pattern more than I do in the human one even though I'm technically...human.

[makedonija77]

I find there's alot of intermarrige when it comes to my friends and their families being intermarried with the two sides of my family. It's like a chain link or something.

This guy's son is the 3rd cousin of a kid who's grandmother and grandfather were cousins of my grandma, the guy who posted the video is also the 2nd cousin of this kid apperently and is the best friend of the guy's son, this guy is a little crazy and was in my dad's group of friends with a bunch of other people who became mega rich and powerful while we were away

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtnA4-Y8jmg

Makfest was in town, I went along with him to it and he was sure he'd get me in for free. Let's say the guy at the door his name is Mike, the guy in the video his name is Emil btw, LOL Emil is cold blooded as ice the whole time

Emil: Come on let the kid in he's ours
Mike: I can't Emil I've already let in 50 people for you
Emil: Come on Mike, let's not create problems over nothing.
Mike: I can't Emil, sorry..
Emil: Mike, listen to me very carefully. I'll go to the local bar, have two shots of whiskey, take the car, slam it into the building, take a baseball bat out of the trunk and smash your head in.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OL.

I will never forget that. It was priceless.

[siphon880di]

Are you pulling our legs? If you weren't lying about your father throwing a chair at you, then I hope you're okay and get some therapy if you haven't.

[pipsicle]

i have reason to believe "jesus" / JEH-SEUS was decended from the "reptilian" race. the original symbol for christianity was a snake on a cross....

this is a segment from a large post i did on another thread. i felt it might raise a few eyebrows and get a few questions and answers going on here.

Jesta - why do you think "Mark" is Mark Antony, and that MA is Jesus? That's the part of your theory I didn't follow. I found the rest of it very interesting. Have often wondered if the "Dog" in God is of significance.

[14april2000]

I know I come from what David calls a "bloodline family". Just because one carries the genes and is a hybrid, does not make them a reptilian in the way David is refering to them. You've got to be possessed or inhabited in some way by these beings. The genes only make such a thing possible.

Is there a way to test if i carrier the reptilian dna? I understand they know if am not one of them and they will also know if i carry the reptilian DNA.

[darketernal]

I'm sure there is a test, but I do not know what they look for. I can often read someone psychically and know how strong their reptilian genetics are if they have any at all, but it is much easier for me to tell with females than with males.

[14april2000]

Thanks.

[14april2000]

Does your family have royal lineage? Family membership in the upper ranks of secret societies? A lot of people with very high security clearance jobs? A long history of psychic abilities that are kept as a "family secret" which you do not talk to non-family about? A history of pedophilia mixed in with any/all of the above?

I could get into some psychological questions about your inner demons or suppressed negative side if you like also.
..

[musti]

I'm sure there is a test, but I do not know what they look for. I can often read someone psychically and know how strong their reptilian genetics are if they have any at all, but it is much easier for me to tell with females than with males.

hi darketernal,

just curious, what do you think about stewart swerdlow? given your background you are in a good position to evaluate what he says.

[mariag]

Is there a way to test if i carrier the reptilian dna? I understand they know if am not one of them and they will also know if i carry the reptilian DNA.

I don´t know about any test but I´m positive it can be tested. But it is easy to check your own ancestry these days. I did a background check and found that I am a carrier of what is stated in DI´s own research as one of the bloodline. And I am very spiritual and connected so I just "know".
:)

[14april2000]

Thank you very much, but i have no idea where to start?
:)

[mariag]

There is something that drives me towards Reptillians, I think I have tons of reptillian blood. People in my family...lol..

There has been sexual abuse, substance(drug and alcohol) abuse, and tons of physical and verbal abuse.

This is not from being cold blooded, but hot blooded instead, my dad especially, this is why I find his side of the family interesting, my dad, my grandfather and half brother all have unique characters.

My father is very hot blooded, short tempered, full of life and loves joking around. Frankly when you piss him off he goes crazy. He once threw a chair at me for refusing to go to school and randomly took my mom by the throat and threw her on top of the bed for yelling at him for yelling at me.

He likes fooling around too much, whenever he'd piss me off I'd tell him what annoys me he just says coldly...yeah...but you came out of my testicles. I just can't keep a straight face with this LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

My brother is extremely smart, a good conversationalist, has strong beliefs, and has my dad's hot bloodedness, except he's kinda different because he had a troubled childhood he doesn't take much to people messing around with him so he either avoids them or if he has to face them he usually does with extreme aggression and anger, he's about 5'8 the same height as my dad and pretty damn skinny in build, he doesn't have alot of muscle or fat and his ribs don't show type of skinny, he's just small and skinny, but has alot of power and knows how to commit the worst acts of violence and aggression like most of my family does, and as my father, loves joking around and has a unique sense of humor.

My grandfather...I don't know about him much, died in 2004 God forgive him, I know they fled to Bulgaria in the late 1940s during the Greek civil war in Drama when Greek agents killed his brother for speaking Macedonian to my great grandmother who didn't know or understand Greek.

I know he had some healing powers, alot of people paid him to massage them. That great grandmother died at the age of 105, when I was 1 year old, and was the oldest woman in Stip at the time.

As for reptillian blood, if you saw me in real life, you'd understand and alot of the nerdy roleplayers on this forum would probably have a heart attack or something.

My basketball manager who is my best friend's uncle, he has these crazy eyes, he isn't tall or muscular or anything, he's bald, he has a small beer gut, his voice isn't loud or soft or anything, it's deep, idk there's just something about him that makes him seem like a very powerful man in terms of physical ability.

LOL alot of people of that family are high up in places....

I just feel since I have alot of rich and prominent family members and friends, I feel there's just something else...

I don't feel normal, I am a little bit too narcassistic at times, and I do feel blessed, or chosen, or something, and my mind pattern is abnormal, I mean like I'm not retarded or anything :D

I just don't think like anyone else. I would feel I fall into the Reptillian mind pattern more than I do in the human one even though I'm technically...human.

If you suspect that you are a carrier you porbably are . You could do a background test and see if your ancestors are from the bloodlines , if any form of intermarriage has oocured etc then you will know.
Ps I sent you a pm about this.
A carrier usually has Alters so yes you are technically human , with a different DNA structure who has an Alter :)
peace

[14april2000]

David Icke - Illuminati Bloodlines And The DNA Database (BBC5tv Interview)

"David suggests reasons for why the elite are obsessed with DNA data."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIj7xLiOKOE

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIj7xLiOKOE)

[mariag]

Thank you very much, but i have no idea where to start?
:)

Start with searching your surname and check for connections with any of the bloodlines mentioned . I have a family book with names etc and they all link back to the Merovingian liniage and more.
Ask your own family members polite if you have a family tree whatever you could have a look at. I asked and told them I wanted to make a tree for my children so they would not get suspicious.
Its not that complicated really.

[darketernal]

Mariag, I don't think people with too low of a % of reptilian genetics develop reptilian alters though, at least not as easily.

14april, that is also a good question, which she brought up. Do you have an alter that you know of who appears in your mind in any kind of reptilian form or who shifts into one? You could also send me a picture in private of you where I can clearly see your eyes with permission to read your energy typed in the message.

[deathcultreject]

If you suspect that you are a carrier you porbably are . You could do a background test and see if your ancestors are from the bloodlines , if any form of intermarriage has oocured etc then you will know.
Ps I sent you a pm about this.
A carrier usually has Alters so yes you are technically human , with a different DNA structure who has an Alter :)
peace

A carrier *usualy* has alters?

This is new to to me.

Where did you get that from?

I thought dissosciative identity was induced by trauma in childhood, prolonged psychological abuse such as gang stalking, or psychological training which the militaries of entire superpowers only developed less than 100 years ago.

Are you saying it's genetic?

[darketernal]

A carrier *usualy* has alters?

This is new to to me.

Where did you get that from?

I thought dissosciative identity was induced by trauma in childhood, prolonged psychological abuse such as gang stalking, or psychological training which the militaries of entire superpowers only developed less than 100 years ago.

Are you saying it's genetic?

No she is saying that those with a high enough percentage of reptilian genetics, seem to develop them naturally.

The military superpowers did not invent these techniques. They have been handed down for thousands of years. They've simply worked on fine-tuning the process through military programs.

[mariag]

hi darketernal , yes what I ment when I said usually was that those with a higher % reptilian DNA has Alters or develop Alters easily.
Although I think that the posibilty to develop alters exists in all the reptilian carriers .
:p

[mariag]

A carrier *usualy* has alters?

This is new to to me.

Where did you get that from?

I thought dissosciative identity was induced by trauma in childhood, prolonged psychological abuse such as gang stalking, or psychological training which the militaries of entire superpowers only developed less than 100 years ago.

Are you saying it's genetic?

Are you aware that there is such a thing cold mind control ? And that a victim of mind control also develop dissosiative identity?
mind control used by people in high organisations to enslave humanity?
just a question and no intention of offense .
Peace

[deathcultreject]

The military superpowers did not invent these techniques. They have been handed down for thousands of years. They've simply worked on fine-tuning the process through military programs.

That's what I heared as well.

I've heared that theres a former KGB military school who can cure the condition if they induced it themselves.