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hunger

15-07-2008, 05:56 PM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ttgFCDUUt_0

I know she did it a long time ago...But These things from our past...some of them haunt us, some of them remind us, wake us up (Realy tried desperatly not to use that phrase!) If you, like me, were like she, talk to me. I am fine now. As strong as she

Peace

beldazar

15-07-2008, 06:39 PM

Wow! Bloody hell, that was SOOO powerful! The ending shocked me to bits! When did she do this?

krakhead

15-07-2008, 07:07 PM

From http://www.notbored.org/sinead.html

On 3 October 1992, the Irish rock singer Sinead O'Connor was the musical guest on Saturday Night Live. For her first song, Sinead performed the title track from her most recent album, Am I Not Your Girl? with a full backing band. For her second, she went with "War," a song by Bob Marley that had once been banned for its apparent advocacy of violence. In a very risky move, musically speaking, Sinead performed the song a capella. Dressed all in white, surrounded by candles and (as usual) shaven-headed, she was a riveting sight. With NBC-TV's cameras focused in-tight on her, Sinead ended her "War" by crying for another one to begin. "Fight the real enemy!" she called, and, out of nowhere, produced a copy of a photograph of Pope John Paul II, which she ripped into pieces. There was stunned silence, and then the station went to a commercial.

The NBC switchboard was immediately inundated by complaints (supposedly 4,484 in all) called in by outraged viewers. Denunciations of Sinead's "blasphemy" poured forth from all kinds of religious figures and celebrities, including Frank Sinatra, who was quoted as saying he wanted to "punch" the singer "right in the mouth." NBC was eventually fined $2.5 million dollars by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), which had never before fined the network for content aired on Saturday Night Live.

In the meantime, Sinead herself said nothing about what she'd done or why she'd done it. (Simply changing one of Marley's lines so that it referred to "sexual abuse" instead of "racial injustice," as Sinead had done in mid-song, hadn't been sufficient explanation and so the press was filled with lurid denunciations of her.) When she returned to the United States on 16 October 1992 to perform at a birthday concert for Bob Dylan at Madison Square Garden in New York, Sinead was greeted by a weird mixture of cheers and boos. Despite the severely divided response to her presence, she once again sang an a cappella version of "War." Once she was done, she staggered offstage, where she was comforted by Kris Kristofferson. Shortly thereafter, Sinead O'Connor permanently retired from the "pop" entertainment industry.

Eventually, Sinead O'Connor made her peace with the Pope. On 22 September 1997, in an interview with the Italian weekly newspaper Vita, she asked the Holy Father to forgive her. She claimed that her attack on the photo had been "a ridiculous act, the gesture of a girl rebel," which she did "because I was in rebellion against the faith, but I was still within the faith." Quoting St. Augustine, she went on to add, "Anger is the first step towards courage." Another courageous step Sinead took in the late 1990s was to join the congregation of the controversial Irish Bishop Michael Cox, who eventually ordained Sinead as a priest. Lacking a sense of humor, the Vatican has refused to recognize Sinead's membership in the priesthood, which the Pope considers "bizarre." This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black, but the Pope is right: Sinead's story is a bizarre one.

And NBC? In the informative and relatively even-handed biography of the singer that airs on VH1 as part of the cable TV station's on-going "Behind the Music" series, it's said that, "even to this day," NBC refuses to allow the photo-ripping scene to be re-broadcast by anyone. VH1 itself had to settle with a blurry shot of Sinead in mid-rip that was published by one of New York's tabloid newspapers. You can catch a glimpse, but you can't actually see what Sinead did that night in 1992: you can only hear about it, thanks to the Vatican's clout and NBC's cowardice.

This would seem a good point to talk about censorship. But it isn't -- not yet.

The Comedy Channel shows back episodes of Saturday Night Live several times a day. In early August 2001, I happened to see the episode in which Sinead O'Connor is the musical guest. Everything goes as it should -- dressed all in white, Sinead performs "War" a capella as her second number -- until the end of the song. There is no war cry, no identification of "the real enemy." Sinead doesn't hold up a picture of the Pope, but a picture of a cute little black boy, instead. And then the song is over, and Sinead stands, smiling, holding the picture behind her back, as the crowd applauds and cheers.

It took a while for it to sink in that NBC hadn't simply blacked out or removed the photo-ripping scene. Instead, NBC had gone beyond mere censorship and either had replaced the Pope-ripping sequence with another one (the song as it was performed in rehearsal?) or had digitally altered the broadcast so that there was apparently nothing in "the original" to black out or remove in the first place. Why would anyone want to block or cut out Sinead's impassioned plea for the children? In times of war, don't we tend to forget about the children, especially the cute little black ones? Nice bullshit, but it wasn't Sinead's.

Like the authors of textbooks on Soviet history, who had to keep changing the past so that it would conform with Stalin's latest purges, NBC has created its own Sinead O'Connor and is now passing her off as the original.

And from Wiki -

Saturday Night Live performance

O'Connor's career took a political shift — especially in the United States — on October 3, 1992, when she appeared on Saturday Night Live as a musical guest, on a season 18 (1992-1993 season) episode hosted by Tim Robbins. She was singing an a cappella version of Bob Marley's "War," which she intended as a protest over the sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church, by changing the lyric "racism" to "child abuse."[12] She then presented a photo of Pope John Paul II to the camera while singing the word "evil," after which she tore the photo into pieces, said "fight the real enemy," and threw the pieces towards the camera.[13] Almost immediately, NBC's switchboard was jammed with thousands of complaints. In the resultant media furor, she was booed off stages and heckled by audiences. Her records were destroyed, and radio stations refused to play her songs. As of early April 2008, NBC continued to refuse to rebroadcast the sequence, instead showing footage from the dress rehearsal where O'Connor holds a photo of an African child before bowing and leaving the stage.

Saturday Night Live had no foreknowledge of O'Connor's plan and resisted all invitations to rebroadcast the incident. (However, it did become available on volume four of the SNL DVD special Saturday Night Live – 25 Years of Music, with an introduction by show creator/executive producer Lorne Michaels about the incident.) When aired as a 60-minute syndicated episode (i.e. on Comedy Central or E! Entertainment Television), the dress rehearsal version was used instead of the controversial footage. As part of SNL's apology to the audience, during his opening monologue the following week, host Joe Pesci held up the photo, explaining that he had taped it back together. Pesci also said that if it had been his show, "I would have gave her such a smack."[14] On the Christopher Walken/Arrested Development episode preceding the Joe Pesci episode, former cast member Jan Hooks cameoed as O'Connor and tried to apologize for her actions. On Madonna's next appearance on SNL (on an episode hosted by Harvey Keitel), after singing "Bad Girl," she held up a photo of Joey Buttafuoco and, saying "fight the real enemy," tore it up.

This was not O'Connor's first go-around with Saturday Night Live; earlier she had refused to appear on a show hosted by "misogynistic" comedian Andrew Dice Clay. Rather, she had agreed to appear on a later episode hosted by Kyle MacLachlan.

On September 22, 1997, O'Connor was interviewed in Vita, an Italian weekly newspaper. In the interview, she asked the Pope to forgive her. She claimed that the tearing of the photo was "a ridiculous act, the gesture of a girl rebel." She claimed she did it "because I was in rebellion against the faith, but I was still within the faith." She went on to quote Saint Augustine, by saying, "Anger is the first step towards courage."[15] However, O'Connor remained unrepentant about the incident. In a 2002 interview with Salon.com--at a time when more information was being uncovered about the Vatican's knowledge of the abuse of children by priests—when asked if she would change anything about the SNL appearance, she replied, "Hell, no!"[16]

Despite popular rumors, neither O'Connor nor Saturday Night Live drew any fines from the Federal Communications Commission for the act.

Bob Dylan tribute performance

Two weeks after the infamous Saturday Night Live appearance, she was set to perform "I Believe in You" at the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary tribute concert in Madison Square Garden.[17] She was greeted by a thundering mixture of cheers and jeers. During the booing, Kris Kristofferson told her not to "let the bastards get you down," to which she replied, "I'm not down." The noise eventually became so loud that O'Connor saw no point in starting the scheduled song. She called for the keyboard player to stop and the microphone to be turned up, and then screamed over the audience with an improvised, shouted rendition of "War". This time, she sang the song, stopping just after the part in which the lyrics talk about child abuse, emphasizing the point of her previous infamous action. She then looked straight to the audience for a second and left the stage. Kristofferson then comforted her, as she cried.[18]

beldazar

15-07-2008, 07:35 PM

thanks for the article, I never realised what she had been up to and I wondered why she disappeared.
Sinead, you are wonderful and Im apologising for all the blinkered people out there who booed you, if only they knew the truth!

steevo

15-07-2008, 07:49 PM

w1nstonsm1th84

15-07-2008, 08:00 PM

In times of war, don't we tend to forget about the children, especially the cute little black ones?

What about the 'ugly' little black ones- aren't they important too? :-/

How patronising, eh?

bendelapidate

15-07-2008, 08:04 PM

Brilliant musician. Shame she sold out and and joined "the dark side". Maybe one day she will realise that sticking to your guns is better than joining a fascist organisation that molests children and has blood sacrifice and deity worship at its core.

krakhead

15-07-2008, 08:09 PM

Brilliant musician. Shame she sold and and joined "the dark side". Maybe one day she will realise that sticking to your guns is better than joining a fascist organisation that molests children and has blood sacrifice and deity worship at its core.

I viewed along the same line as someone who has been abused as a child then seeking out similar abusive relationships in adulthood.

endlessvista

15-07-2008, 08:22 PM

Lads you are giving this dingbat too much credit. She is a completely and utterly mindless joke who hasn't a logical cell in her brain and is into whatever the person she spoke to a few minutes before is into.

She has no mind of her own and changes her opinion on an hourly baisis. She is one day an anti-Pope and the next a female catholic priest wearing a collar and quoting bible scripture because she is actually a rastafarian, eh sorry no I heard she is Jewish now, no wait a pagan, eh sorry she is now a catholic again...

This moron would be the last person I would want on my side. She hasn't a clue. I can say this because a cousin of mine worked for her publishing company for a while. It was like dealing with a turnip.

bendelapidate

15-07-2008, 08:23 PM

I viewed along the same line as someone who has been abused as a child then seeking out similar abusive relationships in adulthood.

If she wanted an abusive relationship she certainly went to the right place.

krakhead

15-07-2008, 08:33 PM

w1nstonsm1th84

15-07-2008, 08:35 PM

Lads you are giving this dingbat too much credit. She is a completely and utterly mindless joke who hasn't a logical cell in her brain and is into whatever the person she spoke to a few minutes before is into...

They just do whatever their handlers tell them to do... and that in turn influences the gullible, celebrity-worshipping masses...

steevo

15-07-2008, 08:42 PM

Yeah MAYBE she is a dingbat, I reserve my judgement on that at present BUT at least she stood up and spoke out, and she, apparantly, went with what she thought was right and decided to do SOMETHING about it. That's ALL that can be asked of ANY OF US to do. Most people are too frightened and find themselves conforming and surpressing their feelings.

nessa felagund

15-07-2008, 08:42 PM

Well, anyone that can stand up in front of a crowd this large and sing like she did at this event has my respect. :)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

beldazar

15-07-2008, 08:45 PM

perhaps she started behaving like brittney and tried various ways to break her programming? :confused:

3stepsahead

15-07-2008, 08:51 PM

whatever

it took some serious balls to do that stunt and i applaude it

it seems the audience in the second vid clearly hates otehr peoples oppinions aswell

w1nstonsm1th84

15-07-2008, 08:52 PM

^^

I wouldn't be surprised if 'she' had a pair...

beldazar

15-07-2008, 08:59 PM

that live performance was absolutely incredible! All those people booing! She is an amazing woman! If she has slipped over to the 'dark side' I bet all I have she was put there! What an incredible woman!

nessa felagund

15-07-2008, 09:03 PM

I loved the way she stepped back from that mike, looked at that audience, and left that stage with her head held high. :) I respect her for that.

magnus

15-07-2008, 10:31 PM

She was on Oprah not long ago telling about her depression....bipolar...she's on medication and feeling better now....her father abused her....she is married,have many children and is living a normal life....

smoking oceanus

15-07-2008, 10:54 PM

I like her music, but my problem with her is that she always seems to be going through some sort of identity crisis. She contradicts herself quite alot and her interviews can get quite irrational to the point it makes no sense.

I admire her courage for standing up for her beliefs but it would be nice if she would just make up her mind now and then.

w1nstonsm1th84

15-07-2008, 10:58 PM

To be serious for a moment, perhaps she's a true victim of MPD/DID mind control. I don't follow the media 'celebrity' merry-go-round, and haven't really seen her since the 1990s (shaven headed)...

endlessvista

16-07-2008, 01:43 AM

Yeah MAYBE she is a dingbat, I reserve my judgement on that at present BUT at least she stood up and spoke out,

Honestly she didn't. She met some radical lesbian feminists in Greenwich Village that afternoon or something like that I bet and decided to rip the pope photo up on a whim not really knowing why except on a superficial level.

If she really stood up and spoke out then why is walking about Dublin today looking like this and calling herself "Mother Mary" while praising the Pope:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/stellardweller2/sinead_priest_smaller.jpg

Think of the most vapid, vacuous and shallow person you ever met in your life who talked endless bullshit in a self-satisfied manner about subjects they hadn't the faintest clue about and then multiple it by a million and you would not reach Sinead O'Connor's level of idiocy.

Honestly I have met golf balls with a higher IQ than Sinead O'Connor.
http://www.sinead-oconnor.com/home/images/stories/img_pictures/priest22_55_20070319_1672544447.jpg

thetonic

16-07-2008, 02:00 AM

Honestly she didn't. She met some radical lesbian feminists in Greenwich Village that afternoon or something like that I bet and decided to rip the pope photo up on a whim not really knowing why except on a superficial level.

If she really stood up and spoke out then why is walking about Dublin today looking like this and calling herself "Mother Mary" while praising the Pope:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/stellardweller2/sinead_priest_smaller.jpg

Think of the most vapid, vacuous and shallow person you ever met in your life who talked endless bullshit in a self-satisfied manner about subjects they hadn't the faintest clue about and then multiple it by a million and you would not reach Sinead O'Connor's level of idiocy.

Honestly I have met golf balls with a higher IQ than Sinead O'Connor.
http://www.sinead-oconnor.com/home/images/stories/img_pictures/priest22_55_20070319_1672544447.jpg

Goodness gracious.. Youve really got it out for ole Sinead now dont you Vista?

Give the poor woman a break. She has done quite a bit with her music and message. Taken plenty of criticism and career blows, and still carries on making music and what not...

Ripping up a picture of teh pope on the tele is like one of the coolest things you could do on live tv imo

And she has a wicked voice and a bald hotty ... :cool:

amercury

16-07-2008, 04:18 AM

I don't understand her conversion and new found love for the pope....but,
I LOVE her as a musician.
She is...ummm very passionate to say the least!:D

This performance by her is one of my favorites; she just puts it all out there.
I recommend putting it on full screen for the best effect.

Sinead O'Connor Live: The Last Day of Our Acquaintance - YouTube

beldazar

16-07-2008, 07:43 AM

Now Im thinking more than ever that she's been 're-programmed' they obviously thought she was dangerous :mad:

shenoma

16-07-2008, 08:31 AM

All those people that called in to complain about some stupid picture being ripped, do they call the police for all the children touch by a priest or call for a change so they can get married?

thetonic

16-07-2008, 11:26 AM

All those people that called in to complain about some stupid picture being ripped, do they call the police for all the children touch by a priest or call for a change so they can get married?

bingo!

endlessvista

16-07-2008, 01:16 PM

Now Im thinking more than ever that she's been 're-programmed' they obviously thought she was dangerous :mad:

Interesting. Might explain some things people have told me about her. She was living with and had a child with Irish Times journalist and establishment goon John Waters...

diggers_1

16-07-2008, 03:10 PM

So some of yous think shes great for ripping up apicture of the pope she then became a priest. She sounds mixed up to me.

http://www.morethings.com/music/sinead/sinead_oconnor_pictures/sinead-o'connor-priest-outfit.jpg

steevo

16-07-2008, 06:29 PM

I havent done ANY research on her BUT, to me, the fact that this woman questions things, the way I see it, she is PROBABLY on a LONG path to the awakening. No church is EVER gonna have the answers for a person who REALLY questions things. Just cos she is APPARANTLY a catholic RIGHT NOW, doesnt mean she has reached the end of her life and she will die a catholic. This is just a chapter of her life and we all have chapters in our lives and I went down the wrong path many many times before I got onto this one (which appears to me to be the correct path now but I ALWAYS keep an open mind).

She tore a picture up of the pope. If she genuinely did this because SHE believed it to be the right thing to do then good on her. We should ALL do stuff like that (IF we feel it's right of course) and not worry what the sheeple say.

Yes she may well be mixed up right now but like I say we have ALL been pretty mixed up at times let's face it. We are all on a journey.

amethyst

16-07-2008, 07:07 PM

Now Im thinking more than ever that she's been 're-programmed' they obviously thought she was dangerous :mad:

Yes, it would seem to be that she is quite possibly under mind control.

beldazar

16-07-2008, 08:20 PM

nice post steevo, full of positivity. I hope she does eventually sort herself, I feel that she is meant to. I dont know about anyone else but in that picture of her in a catholic get-up, she doesnt look too good, her eyes seem quite vacant

cleopatraxxx

16-07-2008, 10:48 PM

nut cases deserve no comments, lol

mikeproteau

17-07-2008, 03:01 AM

wait a seconed stop the presses, who is this person? she said international peace which made me think problem reaction solution and then she tore the pope apart! holy shit, she was wearing the seal of solomon...Im leaning towards thinking this was an operation to get the religeous war going even more...im confused.

thetonic

17-07-2008, 04:04 PM

Yes, it would seem to be that she is quite possibly under mind control.

Most people are.. I mean at least 96% of the population on earth. She is obviously confused about alot of things. However, Im giving her props for ripping up picture of da pope on SNL. That took some courage