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killmicrosoft
14-07-2008, 05:03 PM
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Brown sets 'no limit' on number of nuclear reactors to be built
Gordon Brown is to fast-track the building of at least eight nuclear power stations to cut Britain's dependence on oil following the dramatic rise in its price.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brown-sets-no-limit-on-number-of-nuclear-reactors-to-be-built-866896.html
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The Prime Minister will set "no upper limit" on the number of nuclear plants that will be built by private companies. That would mean nuclear, which provides about 20 per cent of Britain's electricity, could meet a bigger share after the new generation of nuclear stations come on stream over the next 15 years.
Mr Brown fears the UK could experience an energy supply crisis if it does not step up its nuclear programme. He believes that fast-rising oil prices have tipped the balance even more in favour of nuclear and renewable energy, such as wind and wave power, since the Government published a White Paper in January, which backed nuclear.
The Prime Minister's growing enthusiasm for nuclear has provoked controversy. Environmental groups believe that it is not safe and would land taxpayers with a huge clean-up bill after the new plants are decommissioned, pointing to the £73bn cost of phasing out the existing 10 reactors. All except one of them – Sizewell B – will shut down over the next 15 years.
The Liberal Democrats also warned that a switch to more nuclear energy would do nothing to solve the immediate problems caused by the doubling of oil prices over the past year.
Yesterday, the Prime Minister outlined his vision of a "post-oil economy", calling for "a renaissance of nuclear power" and "massive expansion" of renewable energy in which the North Sea becomes "the Gulf of the future" by harnessing the power of the wind. He promised that on nuclear, Britain would work to ensure the best arrangements for security, safety and disposal.
Addressing 42 leaders from the EU, North Africa and Middle East at a "Union for the Mediterranean" summit in Paris, he said that oil dependency posed a threat to economic stability and family finances and was not environmentally sustainable. He supported the creation of "sun farms" in the Sahara and across the region.
Britain's 10 existing nuclear stations generate about 10 gigawatts of electricity. Their decommissioning could cause power cuts, ministers believe, because about a third of the nation's coal and oil-fired power stations will also have to close to meet environmental laws. The new generation of medium-sized nuclear reactors would each generate 1.2 gigawatts, so Mr Brown believes at least eight would be required to make up for the nuclear stations that become obsolete.
A Downing Street source said yesterday: "The industry will not make the long-term investment required to build a new nuclear power station if they think the Government is not totally committed to nuclear energy. That is why the Tory vote against the Planning Bill was so dangerous."
Most of the new power stations are expected to be built near existing sites, where opposition from local residents would be less as they could safeguard or create jobs. Following applications by energy companies, the Government will confirm the location of the new plants in 2010. Energy firms believe they will start to generate electricity by 2017.
A report for the Government by the energy analysts Jackson Consulting, published last year, rated the existing sites green, amber or red for their suitability for new reactors. Those graded green were Hinkley Point, Somerset; Sizewell, Suffolk; Bradwell, Essex; Dungeness, Kent; Hartlepool, Co Durham; Heysham, Lancashire; Hunterston, North Ayrshire; Torness, East Lothian; and Wylfa, on the island of Anglesey.
Graded amber were: Calder Hall, Cumbria; Oldbury, near Bristol; and Chapelcross, near the Solway estuary. Berkeley in Gloucestershire and Trydydd in Snowdonia, north Wales, were not suitable. The Government insists no decisions on sites have yet been taken.
But new plants might not be built in Scotland. The Scottish National Party administration in Edinburgh opposes nuclear power and its consent is needed for big power stations.
How nuclear power came back from the dead
A White Paper on energy, released in 2003, described nuclear power as an "unattractive option" and included no plans to replace existing reactors when they closed. Although it left a tiny door ajar open to more nuclear plants, Friends of the Earth said the policy sounded "the death knell" for nuclear power in Britain.
As climate change rose up the political agenda, former prime minister Tony Blair became convinced a new generation of nuclear plants would offer a low carbon component to energy needs. In 2006 he said more nuclear plants should be built. An advantage, he argued, would be that nuclear power would make Britain less dependent on imports such as gas from Russia. There was a false start when the High Court ruled the Government had failed to consult properly over its nuclear plans.
A White Paper in January described nuclear power as safe, low carbon, affordable and dependable.
lightworks
14-07-2008, 05:06 PM
every politician
multiplied
by the hidden reptilian agenda
equals
full of shit
time and time
again
simple
answer
say no
unequivocally
to
these
demons
banish them
by ascending into
high vibrationary
patterns
of love
trust
and not fear
Mo0n5tar
14-07-2008, 05:18 PM
This guy needs to be stabbed.
killmicrosoft
14-07-2008, 05:22 PM
job for the teenagers
free_soul
14-07-2008, 05:37 PM
"...chenobyl part 2...and 3...4...oh theres number 5"
Imagine waking up and hearing that on the news one morning and it will happen im suprised alot of the japs aint gone yet
sukyspook
14-07-2008, 06:15 PM
every politician
multiplied
by the hidden reptilian agenda
equals
full of shit
time and time
again
simple
answer
say no
unequivocally
to
these
demons
banish them
by ascending into
high vibrationary
patterns
of love
trust
and not fear
100% agree.
Of course, they don't do anything without there being some of this to be had:
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sukyspook
14-07-2008, 06:40 PM
This guy needs to be stabbed.
Broon is truly pathetic.
However, after the consumate liar bliar (bliar-liar - get it) broon has been put there like the idiot bush to oversee the destruction of our respective countries.
In order to build their 'eutopia' they have to destroy the existing 'order'.
'They' want us to beg them to save us by making everything so bad we'll be on our knees begging them.
These people are chosen, funded and installed to fulfill a specific purpose but 'they' can only do that if we are fully complicit and go along with their manipulated agenda.
lightworks
14-07-2008, 06:49 PM
Broon is truly pathetic.
However, after the consumate liar bliar (bliar-liar - get it) broon has been put there like the idiot bush to oversee the destruction of our respective countries.
In order to build their 'eutopia' they have to destroy the existing 'order'.
'They' want us to beg them to save us by making everything so bad we'll be on our knees begging them.
These people are chosen, funded and installed to fulfill a specific purpose but 'they' can only do that if we are fully complicit and go along with their manipulated agenda.
have you seen the way that silly cunt broon sucks in his lower lip behind his teeth when he pauses to make a point....fucking anal retarded reptilian robot
sukyspook
14-07-2008, 10:13 PM
have you seen the way that silly cunt broon sucks in his lower lip behind his teeth when he pauses to make a point....fucking anal retarded reptilian robot
I just turned on the news and lo and behold - there he was. Anal indeed.
He has no endearing features, none whatsoever. What a shame to have to go through life like the living dead.
Broon is a war criminal and completely complicit in the ongoing unfolding 'crisis' orchestrated by the rothschild central banking cartel.
I can't get on to youtube again for some reason - I was going to post gordon brown nwo speech - where in 2007 he can be heard announcing "the greatest ever restructuring of the global economy...." bastard.
endlessvista
15-07-2008, 12:09 AM
I support Nuclear Power generation.
I know this is going to make me very unpopular on this thread, but I have long suspected this media whipped up phobia surrounding Nuclear Energy is paid for by the oil companies and also acts as propaganda machine whereby the elite keep the masses ignorant of their own atomic nature as it might lead them to figure out about quantum mechanics and how everything they have been sold from organised religion to medical issue are lies.
What set me off to this nuclear false flag hype was three things.:
That only 100 people died in chenobyl and that the so called radiation generations and mass mutation filled wastelands never happened. Quite the reverse in fact, the legacy is that chenobyl is an incredible natural habitate now and the people who remained were healthy and lived.
The whole 'chenobyl babies' thing is a pile of lies. Most of these kids were abandoned by their alcoholic parents and were suffering mainly from fetal alcohol syndrome. Children also with handicaps and special needs are often dumped in state run homes by orthodox christian parents who think these children are cursed or "devil children" and the Belorussian and Ukranian governments get billions in overseas charity aid and are in no rush to play down the chenobyl holocaust myth.
Secondly, when the last pope said that Nuclear Power was "evil" and against the teachings of Christ. Of course it was. Anything which is at the atomic level and people might learn about puts the God industry out of business.
Finally, the one form of energy which the Global Warming alarmists could look at as being the perfect answer to fossil fuel emissions, is nuclear, they do not even want to talk about. WHY NOT! Because the Green lobby is funded by big oil
People have to very careful about all this stuff. What makes you so sure that 911 was fake but chenobyl was 100% legit. I would be more inclined to look upon chenobyl as a scam than just about anything else out there.
sireertsch
15-07-2008, 09:28 AM
I support Nuclear Power generation.
I know this is going to make me very unpopular on this thread, but I have long suspected this media whipped up phobia surrounding Nuclear Energy is paid for by the oil companies and also acts as propaganda machine whereby the elite keep the masses ignorant of their own atomic nature as it might lead them to figure out about quantum mechanics and how everything they have been sold from organised religion to medical issue are lies.
What set me off to this nuclear false flag hype was three things.:
That only 100 people died in chenobyl and that the so called radiation generations and mass mutation filled wastelands never happened. Quite the reverse in fact, the legacy is that chenobyl is an incredible natural habitate now and the people who remained were healthy and lived.
The whole 'chenobyl babies' thing is a pile of lies. Most of these kids were abandoned by their alcoholic parents and were suffering mainly from fetal alcohol syndrome. Children also with handicaps and special needs are often dumped in state run homes by orthodox christian parents who think these children are cursed or "devil children" and the Belorussian and Ukranian governments get billions in overseas charity aid and are in no rush to play down the chenobyl holocaust myth.
Secondly, when the last pope said that Nuclear Power was "evil" and against the teachings of Christ. Of course it was. Anything which is at the atomic level and people might learn about puts the God industry out of business.
Finally, the one form of energy which the Global Warming alarmists could look at as being the perfect answer to fossil fuel emissions, is nuclear, they do not even want to talk about. WHY NOT! Because the Green lobby is funded by big oil
People have to very careful about all this stuff. What makes you so sure that 911 was fake but chenobyl was 100% legit. I would be more inclined to look upon chenobyl as a scam than just about anything else out there.
phew, quite a drastic view of things :eek: I need to check things about Tschernobyl, all I can say is that in Austria people rejected the (first and last ever built) nuclear power plant Zwentendorf to start working in the late 70s. since Tschernobyl supporting nuclear power in Austria is kind of a no-no in public opinion. Everyone here still has the event in mind, my parents sometimes told me about when they were told not to collect/eat mushrooms and all the radioactive stuff was on it's way to the neighbouring countries.
don't know, I don't think it was a fake event....:confused:
well anyway, I hab interesting talks with my mate+parents in law about nuclear power......
lightgiver
16-07-2008, 01:58 AM
This illuminati puppet(g brown) git is off his tits:mad:
Why not unlimited wind and solar farms:confused:,and greener technologies for peoples homes,nah its to easy to do that.
endlessvista
16-07-2008, 02:13 AM
This illuminati puppet git is off his tits:mad:
Why not unlimited wind and solar farms:confused:,and greener technologies for peoples homes,nah its to easy to do that.
Just because I hold a different opinion on the subject does not mean you have to give manifestation to an attack of your paranoia.
Anyhoo, green energy is SHIT. It does not work, it is a taxpayer subsidised scam. Windmills destroy the landscape, kills thousands of birds and drive the people who live near them nuts with the racket they kick up. Solar is only good if you live in a sunny climate.
Most Green energy is total pie in the sky. We can make our homes more energy efficent, but the issue of transport is still a massive problem. The best solution is electric trains, trams, buses etc. But these need vast amount of power and only nuclear can supply it on the scale needed to get people out of their cars.
I suggest you read up on nuclear power and see just how safe it is. It hasn't killed millions like coal has.
Nuclear is perhaps the greenest energy of all. I am also pro environment. Deal with it.
also everything I posted is 100% reality. People in the Caspian Sea live with higher level of radation than they do in the area around 1985 reactor explosion and have very low rates of cancer as do people in high radiation locations worldwide. Drop the paranoia and get some education.
Ian2day
16-07-2008, 11:03 AM
The more the merrier. I want to see reactors all over the place. The more of them there is, the more likely there will be more disasters which lead to the end of humanity.
danielg
16-07-2008, 01:48 PM
Brown is only going nuclear as without nuclear energy, Britain will be left in the dark ages; something other countries, i.e. Britains rivals, are not willing to do to themselves.
It is the best technology we have, and will eventually be 100% clean nuclear fusion, based on the same reactive principle as the Sun.
Founder of Greenpeace (who quit) now supports nuclear energy, i.e., he has woke up from his counter-cultural brainwashing, an ability apparently lacking in all but 1 poster on this thread so far.
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/Moore_interview.pdf
The Real Chernobyl Folly:
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/spring%202006/Chernobyl_Folly.pdf
More pro-nuclear articles:
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/nuclearsubpg.html
hagbard_celine
16-07-2008, 08:09 PM
I know there's question marks over the dangers of nuclear power, despite films like The China Syndrome and K19-the Widowmaker, but in actual fact nuclear power, along with wind farms and solar energy, is obsolete. Free Energy exists and has been developed. It's been classified for over 70 years, maybe longer.
diamond dogs
16-07-2008, 08:41 PM
I know there's question marks over the dangers of nuclear power, despite films like The China Syndrome and K19-the Widowmaker, but in actual fact nuclear power, along with wind farms and solar energy, is obsolete. Free Energy exists and has been developed. It's been classified for over 70 years, maybe longer.
Quite right HC i think it is by means of using the Hydrogen/Oxygen from water and if they are producing a water powered car JAPANESE WATER POWERED CAR!! - YouTube then it stands to reason that this can be adapted for free energy conversion to Electricity.
blueyonder2012
16-07-2008, 08:53 PM
How much longer have we got to listen to the Rubbish of power problems:confused:
There is loads on this guys youtube site;) Free Energy (http://www.youtube.com/user/FreeGlobalEnergy)
lightgiver
17-07-2008, 12:13 AM
Just because I hold a different opinion on the subject does not mean you have to give manifestation to an attack of your paranoia.
Anyhoo, green energy is SHIT. It does not work, it is a taxpayer subsidised scam. Windmills destroy the landscape, kills thousands of birds and drive the people who live near them nuts with the racket they kick up. Solar is only good if you live in a sunny climate.
Most Green energy is total pie in the sky. We can make our homes more energy efficent, but the issue of transport is still a massive problem. The best solution is electric trains, trams, buses etc. But these need vast amount of power and only nuclear can supply it on the scale needed to get people out of their cars.
I suggest you read up on nuclear power and see just how safe it is. It hasn't killed millions like coal has.
Nuclear is perhaps the greenest energy of all. I am also pro environment. Deal with it.
also everything I posted is 100% reality. People in the Caspian Sea live with higher level of radation than they do in the area around 1985 reactor explosion and have very low rates of cancer as do people in high radiation locations worldwide. Drop the paranoia and get some education.
I aint paranoid,its you taking it personnel.nuclear is expensive,dangerous and leaves a danger to future generations to clean up the mess.
There is enough technology's and changes to people ways of life to sort this energy problem out without having to resort to nuclear technology's,the world needs to slow down and we all need to live cleaner and greener lives and stop feeding the illuminati machine.
Chill out peeps.
G brown is off his tits:D
and nothing as killed as many people and raped the planet as much as the ILLUMINATI MACHINE as,wake up vista.
romas
17-07-2008, 10:31 AM
If only hydrogen technology was allowed to advance as say printed circuit board or microchip industries we would have cheap generators at your local grocery shop.
Energy business is controlled envoiroment, it's a deck of cards in the hands of corrupt banksters and industry moguls.
Nuclear energy is owned by same elitist pricks like queen of england and rockafellers etc.
They will sell you their sollutions when it suits their agenda.
Expensive energy or lack of is a form of population controll.
john white
17-07-2008, 11:10 AM
Brown is only going nuclear as without nuclear energy, Britain will be left in the dark ages; something other countries, i.e. Britains rivals, are not willing to do to themselves.
It is the best technology we have, and will eventually be 100% clean nuclear fusion, based on the same reactive principle as the Sun.
Founder of Greenpeace (who quit) now supports nuclear energy, i.e., he has woke up from his counter-cultural brainwashing, an ability apparently lacking in all but 1 poster on this thread so far.
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/Moore_interview.pdf
The Real Chernobyl Folly:
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/spring%202006/Chernobyl_Folly.pdf
More pro-nuclear articles:
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/nuclearsubpg.html
Have we all got such short memories that we forget it was Tony Blair who pushed us into dependency on Russian Gas?
Reading between the lines, this rush to hegemony of the Neocons, from British governments POV, is more a stalling action than anything else: we don't have hordes of Mexicans to bribe into the army to bolster troop numbers and are only bit players in the current quest for empire
Neither do we have vast quantities of Oil on our own soil being set aside while we grab everyone elses: as America does with Alaska
but there are other options than nuclear! at the moment we waste 60% of the power generated due to loses in the vastly ineficiant national grid and ALL of the heat
local combined heat and power stations (CHP's): small and very numerous and able to use vast range of fuels: oil gas coal biomass have been extremely successful in the Netherlands and would make what we have got go far far longer until renewable alternatives could be properly developed and waste almost NONE of the energy produced including using all the heat to heat homes and offices
Compared to the vast sums required to make a few nuclear reactors and deal with the legacy of the existing ones, this is a far preferable option
And arn't we all supposed to be terrified of terrorists?
BANG!
john white
17-07-2008, 11:14 AM
CHP: google!
combined heat and power - Google Search
hagbard_celine
17-07-2008, 06:17 PM
Have we all got such short memories that we forget it was Tony Blair who pushed us into dependency on Russian Gas?
Reading between the lines, this rush to hegemony of the Neocons, from British governments POV, is more a stalling action than anything else: we don't have hordes of Mexicans to bribe into the army to bolster troop numbers and are only bit players in the current quest for empire
Neither do we have vast quantities of Oil on our own soil being set aside while we grab everyone elses: as America does with Alaska
but there are other options than nuclear! at the moment we waste 60% of the power generated due to loses in the vastly ineficiant national grid and ALL of the heat
local combined heat and power stations (CHP's): small and very numerous and able to use vast range of fuels: oil gas coal biomass have been extremely successful in the Netherlands and would make what we have got go far far longer until renewable alternatives could be properly developed and waste almost NONE of the energy produced including using all the heat to heat homes and offices
Compared to the vast sums required to make a few nuclear reactors and deal with the legacy of the existing ones, this is a far preferable option
And arn't we all supposed to be terrified of terrorists?
BANG!
Multiple smaller local power stations are far better than a few big ones. There's one in Didcot, Oxfordshire that is so huge you can see it from miles away. It looks horrible and stinks to high heaven! It covers the surrounding countryside in a net of power lines ans pylons. These radiate energy that not only wastes the power, but can cause cancer.
The beauty of Free Energy is that it is not only free, but that some of the generators are so small they can fit in a cupboard in your house. So you don't need any power lines at all, except the wires inside your home. Also if it fails you don't get a city-wide blackout, but just one in your own home.
Of course centrally produced electricity through primitive fuel sources may be backward, inefficient, polluting and dangerous, but it gives the PTB's control. It makes us dependant on them. That's the main reason they supress Free Energy.