Dilema

[chester]

When I started snapping to the reality versus the movie (and by no means was it or is it now a total understanding) I went through stages such as anger, dispair, etc. I went through the stage of the us and them on the highest of levels of perception and open mindedness (but still undermined by the us and them - the duality which, if I remained in, would in essence be living the ultimate lie). Fortunately I was able to glimpse Oneness, and have anchored in this understanding.

But here is my dilema. I have three sons in their teens. They have been exposed to much of the research I have done, web sites, videos, books (Icke in most cases) and some interesting things have come forth.

One thing is in relation to how serious they take school and how serious they appreciate that even though the system is what it is, without decent grades and the opportunity for further education (and yes, mostly indoctrination), their futures MAY be limited. Clearly the above view is most of the old tapes still quite securely placed in my own "head."

Their grades are all slipping and the friends they have and the reputations they are gaining are more along the lines of outcast.

But even more disturbing is that I see them showing signs that they are also moving through phases of anger, dissolusionment and at times, I also see dispair. And now I see apathy from time to time. They just seem to not care more often than I am comfortable with (parent program).

So I feel guilty in a sense and yet, I am still torn. Anyone see the movie "Its a Beautiful Life"? One part of me says I should have helped my kids remian in the movie, although a "happy version" of such. Insulate them. In fact, I have received a good deal of criticism and even expeinced a community's efforts to take my sons from me about 5 years ago in large part because of my views (and exacerbated by my "anger" / "blame" stage).

But the fact is, I cannot help myself. I provide information to my sons - all types of information - and I discuss these matters with them and refrain from directly pushing my own views. Instead I constantly reinforce that who am I to know what is true or not and what conclusions should I draw and/or judgements to make for anyone but myself?

So the bottom line is this. I sometimes feel guilty. But overwhelmingly I feel good that I can look myself in the eye in the mirror without seeing a person who is living a lie to himself. I ask my sons always to just be honest with me. As they get older, they sometimes make mistakes which appear bigger or more shocking (parent program again). But what always happens is that they are truthful with me. This is what we do in our home. We don't have or live secrets. I see them sometimes faced wiith what the general opinion might be, "They are too young to have to face that sort of thing! What are you thinking?" But the way I see it, somewhere long, long ago someone thought, maybe it would be better for my child if I sugar coated life. And look where we are now.

[garth]

Gidday Chester,

I reck'on keep doing what you are doing. It would appear from your post that you have brought up 3 kids who are informed, but have the flexibility to make up there own minds. To be brought up in an environment like this IMO would be great. Just trust in yourself, you know the right way to go, and your kids will always respect you for showing them the bigger picture. And don't get to hung up on the grades, you doin't have to have a university education to have a great life, I didn't go, have had about 20 different occupations and have loved it. I can't think of a worse fate than being "indoctrinated" into a profession that you work at for 40 odd years, to damn boring.

Good on ya, keep up the great work.:D

[Anders Lindman]

A middle way is probably the best. To use school to learn things but at the same time not blindly follow and swallow all the things the school teachers are saying.

[i_am]

Hi Chester

The life of a parent is a hard one, especially when they hit their teens. I have been through it with my children and my daughter is now going through it with her son. You have given them the basics and you have to trust that is so deeply ingrained that they will be ok.. Sure they make mistakes and they are entitled to. I sure did, Didn't you? You have given them a good grounding and you have their respect and honesty. They will be fine.

The freethinkers do have a problem with the education sytem. They are stifled and so rebel against is. Mine did. I had a track worn to the principal's office. And for what it is worth they have turned out great and we still have a very close relationship.

[chester]

Thanks for the feedback - it is what I was searching for too - I am not the most self confident person and sometimes ask for a few pats on the back. It does help.

I forgot to add this. When my middle son (13 years old) told me about how they are trying to cram "global warming is man made and that it is caused by CO2" for example, he responded by pointing out alternate theories (and where this information can be found) and in addition pointed out some reasons as to why it might benefit "some" for the general population to "buy into" this as THE explanation." His teacher listened. The teacher did not put him down, attack him or anything else like that. The teacher did not agree but he actually allowed my son his opinion.

My oldest son's (16) English teacher is actually quite into all this "alternative" thinking and my son's book report is on The Biggest Secret!

This is an American/British school where many of the diplomats children attend in an exclusive area of San Jose, Costa Rica. For a school like this to have some teachers like this is encouraging to me.

Sadly on another note, the school announced that all students had to have their PCs handed to security so that their identities can be embedded into the PC (when they use the schools internet). They would also install anti-virus software. But the third item on the list (last so that it might seem less important) they were going to install software that allows their PC activity to be monitored in real time. A security guard is able to sit on a PC and see dozens of screens activities (and select one for enlargement) - In addition, all PC activity is recorded.

Seems like there are always a few steps forward and a few back. Its my hope the the steps forward are more and larger than the steps back.

thanks again, folks

[roxanna222]

Hello there,
Im familiar with the school your children attend. From a distance ofcourse my first grader is in another private school in CR. To what level do you reckon this school is U.S. controlled? My child in a private school but tico run. Still Im not the popular mom Im the pain in the ass who wont let them vaccinate her or let them catholic train her. But as paying hefty with them I guess money talks to some extent. I would consider if your boys up for it another private school. As Ive always suspected the one they are in is in U.S. control big time since the days I was living in La Jolla, California. So Im curious on your comments with respect to this. As for the movie. Brilliant metaphor you have brought up. Not in the least lost on me. Im in the same boat. Only I have the choice this moment to sugar coat or tell it as is. Obviously Ive a small one. So my approach is insert truths or what I deem them to be and provide mini solutions (empowering her rather then apathy and or sadness) and encourage her to above all think on her own. How? Well I ask her what her opinions are on all sorts of things from colours to more advanced subjects. I listen and comment on them and ask her to tell me about what she feels. She already is an "upstart" in class in that she questions even now though respectively however the schools here and in most places not accustomed to that nor particulary care for such behavior from students. I think you are doing a great job with your children. I hope that when mine is older we will maintain this great open relationship we have so far and that you seem to still have. Cheers your children will regard you as legend.

[tinmenace]

Chester, Big Hug! The emotions for our children are so strong. I have none but I can just imagine!

Listen, let me tell you what I'm thinking. I think you're worrying too much because you know what? We can prepare for life as much as we want to, but it's gonna happen the way it's gonna happen and often our preparations have nothing to do with the outcome. The meaningful outcome, that is.

I think you should sit your boys down and talk to them. Since they've been exposed to David, they're going to have an idea of where you are coming from. I would tell them, that this is a system, and if they want to be successful on the system, according to system standards, that they need to focus on schoolwork. They will have to function within the system so it doesn't hurt to know your way around it, and have knowledge of how to reap the most rewards from it.

BUT! Even as a parent, it is not your right to force your will or the will of anyone else upon these boys. They came through you but they belong not to you (Gibran). So, the best parent you can be is to guide them, and inform them of what to expect while living on the grid. But, if they choose to be starving artists or authors, your duty to them as a parent is to love them for all that they are, and support them in their chosen path.

Their lives are not yours to lead. All you can do is guide them, and help them understand.

Sending good vibes your way. All the best to ya and your boys :)

[roxanna222]

Fucking Brilliant tin. Brilliant. Could not be better said. Im a parent as well and those words wow thank you!! Cheers Very well put. Bless

[i_am]

BUT! Even as a parent, it is not your right to force your will or the will of anyone else upon these boys. They came through you but they belong not to you (Gibran). So, the best parent you can be is to guide them, and inform them of what to expect while living on the grid. But, if they choose to be starving artists or authors, your duty to them as a parent is to love them for all that they are, and support them in their chosen path.

Their lives are not yours to lead. All you can do is guide them, and help them understand.

Sending good vibes your way. All the best to ya and your boys :)

Totally agree, tin.

However, when you are a parent, it is often easier said than done. It is difficult to see them hurting or heading for (what you perceive to be) a massive fall and not become emotionally involved. I was able to let go and let be but my children's father could not. Fortunately they turned out just fine. They learnt from their mistakes.

[tinmenace]

Fucking Brilliant tin. Brilliant. Could not be better said. Im a parent as well and those words wow thank you!! Cheers Very well put. Bless

Thanks, you're welcome sweetie! :)

[tinmenace]

Totally agree, tin.

However, when you are a parent, it is often easier said than done. It is difficult to see them hurting or heading for (what you perceive to be) a massive fall and not become emotionally involved. I was able to let go and let be but my children's father could not. Fortunately they turned out just fine. They learnt from their mistakes.

Well, you've attracted good things to yourself and your kids with your actions, and thanks to your energy and love they have turned out ok. :) Learning from our mistakes is a lesson that should NEVER be denied to us by those that love us.

[i_am]

Learning from our mistakes is a lesson that should NEVER be denied to us by those that love us.

I agree 100% with this statement. sometimes you just have to be there to put the pieces back together and love 'em.

Their father was always there for them too even though he ranted and told them what dickheads they were :D

[tinmenace]

:p :D