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kerravon
02-02-2007, 06:00 PM
Hello, I have been a big follower of David's work for many years now, but a recent event has confused me. In the recent boxing day programme "David Icke, Was He Right?", David is shown in several shots within a large house. I have lived in England most my life, and we are talking about a million pound house here. He is also shown leaving the house like he lives there.

The house can be seen in these grabs below:

http://209.200.113.194/di_house1.jpg

http://209.200.113.194/di_house2.jpg

Now for the confusing part, below is a plead for David's courtcase, dated June 2006, written by his wife Pamela:

"He lives a very modest life in a small flat with one bedroom while he sees idiots and manipulators claim that he does his work only for the money and, in one case, that he lives in a mansion!!"

Pamela Icke - 20 June 2006
http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/1772/1772/

So what's going on? I have no reason to beleive David or Pamela are lying, and i'm sure there is a perfectly logically explanation for this, so if anyone out there knows an answer, please let me know.

Thanks!
Kerr Avon.

blokey
02-02-2007, 06:12 PM
That seems a modest abode, considering if it is where he lives its probably just a converted house into flats, and he owns one.

trinity1
02-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Perhaps he lives in a modest one bedroom apartment within a mansion?

blokey
02-02-2007, 06:17 PM
Perhaps he lives in a modest one bedroom apartment within a mansion?

Bingo!

Look to the wall on the left of the main door.

Lots of doorbells!

kerravon
02-02-2007, 06:55 PM
That seems like a good explanation. It's probably just an old building that is several one bedroom flats. It was just something that bothered me since watching the programme.

freespark
02-02-2007, 07:33 PM
Bingo!

Look to the wall on the left of the main door.

Lots of doorbells!

No no no you are all wrong...the man owns that huge house and also half the town. I know a guy who knows a guy who saw him walking out of a huge building in London too. I dunno about you, but i think he owns that one as well.

Man. Is this where all my life savings that i chose to donate has ended up??

Boohoo.

andrew wilson
03-02-2007, 12:49 AM
It so depresses me to see these fantastic buildings developed into apartments.

third wave
03-02-2007, 12:54 AM
It so depresses me to see these fantastic buildings developed into apartments.


Could do with a lick of paint, I guess.

However, I understand what you mean - but should just one person/family etc live in a place thats too big for there needs. Far better I reckon to make use of the space and have a load of folk live there.

anonamongus
03-02-2007, 01:32 AM
The Mansion actually shapeshifts into a one bedroom flat when David is home and shapeshifts back into a mansion when he goes outdoors.
(see photo above), And I think he might be wearing Alligator Shoes too!

Thats not a snake skin bag I hope, if it is, we're all Fu??ed!

johnpeters
03-02-2007, 01:33 AM
Sorry to disappoint you guys. He lives in a small flat in the "mansion". He also drives a cheap sensible car. All his money and effort goes into his work and that's the truth.

He's extremly dedicated.

chester
03-02-2007, 01:56 AM
If anyone actually paid close attention to the "Was he Right" thing, they panned in on one set of windows on the right (I think second floor). It was pretty clear to me that its an apartment house.

But also, if you have followed this man's material and caught his interviews and seen some of the videos/dvds, there is no way this man isn't completely transparent. He is exactly what we see, hear and read that comes from him or anyone who truly knows him.

We are all extremely fortunate that he heard the voice to go to Peru, that he went through his turquoise period where he admittedly had a hard time holding onto reality. Realize what the heck he went through! Just like when Neo got sucked out of the matrix. Most are so conditioned that they may never break out. Realize the world he was in - A top BBC Sports Presenter near the end there. Are you telling me that if he didn't remain in the game he couldn't have ended up wealthy enough to own that apartment building or maybe dozens? He dropped the game, folks. That some think he is in this 15 year journey for money or to win friends or gain mainsteam fame, etc. is a wakeup call that they should look hard in the mirror and ask themselves what is motivational for them in their lives.

Another thing, I don't know David personally but I bet this man has over 1000 times asked himself why go on. But its probably because in truth, the rewards of seeing just one person awaken every now and then - well, when I see it, there is absolutely nothing like it. No money, fame or power - no promises of eternal life, no anything imaginable can equal the feeling I have felt when I have somehow been blessed to be the conduit of information that opens the eyes of another and then I see that other take the ball and run. That I have been able to experience this is thanks to David and my own open mind.

I am certain that anyone else who has truly been able to make a difference in the lives of others would agree with my points above and thus have no suspicions that end up producing such fanatsy.

mari
03-02-2007, 01:59 AM
Thats alright then! :)

johnpeters
03-02-2007, 02:02 AM
I can honestly say as someone who knows David that he is 100% genuine. He gave up a lucrative career, secure future, "normal" life and the like to do what he's been doing. He's often slated by people that don't know the first thing about him. He's had very hard times that would make the rest of up give up but still he drives on, determined to make a difference for us all.

He's also very intelligent, sharp witted and a pleasure to spend time with.

It's a shame some people can't recognise this.

third wave
03-02-2007, 02:21 AM
Sorry to disappoint you guys. He lives in a small flat in the "mansion". He also drives a cheap sensible car. All his money and effort goes into his work and that's the truth.

He's extremly dedicated.

Quite right - anyone can see that that place insn't a mansion. It's just a converted block. Simple to see.

I saw that documentary, and frankly even the flat itself - it didn't look luxurius to me. It just looked like a place most of us live in.

johnpeters
03-02-2007, 02:23 AM
It's very ordinary and quite small. People jump to conclusions. Author, speaker, presenter, rich!

Way off the mark.

a fine naked fellow
03-02-2007, 02:30 AM
Isn’t it strange that it should be so off the mark? Perhaps because he talks of reality…
they expect his to be perfect?

Well on the other hand, he speaks of conspiracy and that gets peoples hair all ruffled.

kerravon
03-02-2007, 03:31 AM
I almost wish that I had not started this thread, since the last thing I wanted to do was for anyone to question David's personal wealth or credibility.

Like I said in the original post, I have no question that David tells the truth, I was just seeking an explanation for the contradiction between the pictures and the statement. I admit that I was wrong to need an explanation, since I have followed David's work for years and know what he has to go through. David is probably the most courageous and dedicated person we'll ever know, and has no reason to lie about anything since his life is dedicated to researching the truth.

I just think that the TV programme should have explained it a little better, for people without a sharp eye, and newcomers to David's work who would automatically assume that he's making a tidy profit.

Infinite Love,
Kerr Avon.

tinmenace
03-02-2007, 03:46 AM
Focus more on the information he provides and less on finding a way out of accepting the truth that lies before you.

tk__
03-02-2007, 03:50 AM
he lives on the Isle of Wight. is that where that mansion is? :)

thirdwave
03-02-2007, 11:19 AM
more to the point whats it got to do with us what kind of house he lives in? ...does it matter?

johnpeters
03-02-2007, 11:23 AM
The Mansion is on the IOW but it's protected by secret cloaking technology (sometimes there's a burger van in front of it).

The Channel 5 documentary was great but it did give the impression that David owned the whole block. In fact, the whole island! lol

tinmenace
03-02-2007, 01:11 PM
And possibly the entire continent!

Silly! :p

sean
03-02-2007, 01:14 PM
He also owned the ferry that crossed over to the mainland. But usually he gets a helicopter or private jet to get him accross as "ferry's are just so beneath me" as he once told me.

armoured saint
03-02-2007, 02:08 PM
He also owned the ferry that crossed over to the mainland. But usually he gets a helicopter or private jet to get him accross as "ferry's are just so beneath me" as he once told me.

I'd be careful of being sarcastic if I were you. Many would take it literally.

Hehe.:D

albie
03-02-2007, 02:39 PM
I see no doorbells.

thirdwave
03-02-2007, 02:57 PM
I see no doorbells.


http://www.specsavers.co.uk

thirdwave
03-02-2007, 02:57 PM
I'd be careful of being sarcastic if I were you. Many would take it literally.

Hehe.:D


and you joking but you dont know how right you actually are!!

lol

albie
03-02-2007, 03:13 PM
I see something, but they are too high up to be doorbells.

And if he has a flat they look pretty nice.

thirdwave
03-02-2007, 03:45 PM
I see something, but they are too high up to be doorbells.

And if he has a flat they look pretty nice.

terrible isn't it...

tinmenace
04-02-2007, 01:56 AM
David is a free person. He can live anywhere he bloody well wants to, and nobody has any right to disagree. He works hard for his living, and nobody dare bat a wicked eye at him.

blokey
04-02-2007, 02:02 AM
http://www.specsavers.co.uk

:D

tk__
10-02-2007, 10:38 PM
more to the point whats it got to do with us what kind of house he lives in? ...does it matter?

hasn't icke some financial problems? and can afford a house like that? am i missing something?

eternal_spirit
10-02-2007, 10:44 PM
yes you are missing something lol, the Building is a block of flats.:rolleyes:

starstainedglass
11-02-2007, 12:01 PM
I think it's hilarious that David came strolling out of the 'mansion' in the tv programme like he owned the whole place. Brilliant.

heretic
11-02-2007, 02:16 PM
Ok, I'll post the pics once more then I'll give you an analysis as some of you clearly have not figured out this yet.
http://209.200.113.194/di_house1.jpg
http://209.200.113.194/di_house2.jpg

First, look outside the building, there are 2 'for sale' or 'to lease' signs outside, that would indicate that there are at least two residences in that building correct?

Ever heard of 'Victorian architecture' ? Well queen Victoria had a huge place on the isle of wight (Osborne house, still there) and that building was probably built then and was a hotel or other public building later converted to apartments/flats. I can tell this due to the fact there is no parking out the front so it means the building had it's glory days a LONG time ago, before cars.

What's next? Someone will probably say he owns the building and is the landlord :rolleyes:

johnpeters
11-02-2007, 02:20 PM
Just to clarifty the matter. Dave owns just one small flat. I've been there many times. He's not the landlord, doesn't own the whole block, nor the Isle of Wight as some of you have suggested.

His money goes into keeping his work going.

thirdwave
11-02-2007, 02:20 PM
this is a perfect example of how the attackers can create something out of nothing.....

I just dislike that mentality all together, attacking people, much like the press do.... I hate seeing people get attacked like that, just to go with an agenda..

I have always looked at whats on my table and focused my energies on that.... what would be the point on focusing on others?

tinmenace
11-02-2007, 02:21 PM
"stealing other peoples work" ...that's called plagiarism, and "peoples" needs an apostrophe between the "e" and the "s".

Now that you've had your grammar lesson for the day, let me give you a little lesson on law...Slander is a very serious offense, and I wouldn't throw the word plagiarism around too loosely unless you're willing to prove it in a court of law.

heretic
11-02-2007, 02:22 PM
If I ever win the lottery or something then Mr Icke and family can come and live on my huge estate rent free.:D

quest
11-02-2007, 05:45 PM
Well put John. If I remember rightly, the fact that he lives in a simple flat is clearly shown in the channel 5 documentary. It's about time idiot armchair snipers stopped attacking David for such erroneous reasons and used their energy to give him some support instead.

nikinana
16-05-2007, 08:38 AM
Hello, I have been a big follower of David's work for many years now, but a recent event has confused me. In the recent boxing day programme "David Icke, Was He Right?", David is shown in several shots within a large house. I have lived in England most my life, and we are talking about a million pound house here. He is also shown leaving the house like he lives there.

The house can be seen in these grabs below:

http://209.200.113.194/di_house1.jpg

http://209.200.113.194/di_house2.jpg

Now for the confusing part, below is a plead for David's courtcase, dated June 2006, written by his wife Pamela:

"He lives a very modest life in a small flat with one bedroom while he sees idiots and manipulators claim that he does his work only for the money and, in one case, that he lives in a mansion!!"

Pamela Icke - 20 June 2006
http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/1772/1772/

So what's going on? I have no reason to beleive David or Pamela are lying, and i'm sure there is a perfectly logically explanation for this, so if anyone out there knows an answer, please let me know.

Thanks!
Kerr Avon.

Hello all,

I don't normally come in here but have of late and came across this and simply wanted to put it straight.

Yes, I understand how this can 'look', but remember, looks can be deceiving!

Has anyone considered that this is an old Victorian building housing 'flats'?

We own 1, small, two bedroom flat (and one of the bedrooms is David's office!), within this building of 9 flats. My work area sits under my clothes in my closet in our bedroom! Living in such a small space you have to get creative ;)

So creative, that I also had to put the 'dryer' in our bedroom, as well. :)

Be very careful of judgement or judging others.
Everyone has an opinion and would simply suggest to slow down before you create another thread of illusion adding to lifes confusion.
We have enough of that.

David gives a tour of our flat in the videos included for Premier subscribers in this forum. Hope this settles another illusion in life?


Love, pamela

auron
16-05-2007, 08:50 AM
Wow, nice place. I can understand what you mean with limited space. I spend most of my time on the internet and and in this forum. And when i'm finished i sleep in a chair! I don't have a room of my own, in the house i live in!

But hey! I enjoy it! :D

Auron :)

i am all i am
16-05-2007, 09:00 AM
Hello all,

I don't normally come in here but have of late and came across this and simply wanted to put it straight.

Yes, I understand how this can 'look', but remember, looks can be deceiving!

Has anyone considered that this is an old Victorian building housing 'flats'?

We own 1, small, two bedroom flat (and one of the bedrooms is David's office!), within this building of 9 flats. My work area sits under my clothes in my closet in our bedroom! Living in such a small space you have to get creative ;)

So creative, that I also had to put the 'dryer' in our bedroom, as well. :)

Be very careful of judgement or judging others.
Everyone has an opinion and would simply suggest to slow down before you create another thread of illusion adding to lifes confusion.
We have enough of that.

David gives a tour of our flat in the videos included for Premier subscribers in this forum. Hope this settles another illusion in life?


Love, pamela

G'day Pamela.

It is very generous of you to offer an explanation for the benefit of those unable to see clearly. It would be great if they appreciated that you didn't have to do this for them and that it is a gift that you have explained to them anything at all.

May all that you and David desire for yourselves come into being.



With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

father ted
16-05-2007, 09:16 AM
I'm glad you posted this kerravon, it actually works in favour of Icke. It bought up descriptions of how little he has (materialistic posessions) and discussions as to his dedication towards his work.

lottie
16-05-2007, 12:53 PM
why on earth should he have to justify where he lives???!! its no reflection on the great work he does...and also wtf has it got to do with anyone?!! :confused: Mind your own business!!! LOL!!!

hagbard_celine
16-05-2007, 01:05 PM
If I ever win the lottery or something then Mr Icke and family can come and live on my huge estate rent free.:D

That's very kind of you, mate.

I've seen that house, I think, when I went to Ryde a few years ago, before David lived in it. You can tell it's flats. It's clearly 19th Century and it may well have been a single home originally, but it's been converted. There are plenty of other buildings like it in my home town too. There's a big market for small flats and most houses of that type get made into them.

bicycle
16-05-2007, 02:13 PM
I think it would be a good thing if David Icke owned that 'mansion', it would mean that Bridge of Love publications is doing very well and that the word is getting to more and more people:)

december
16-05-2007, 06:51 PM
David gives a tour of our flat in the videos included for Premier subscribers in this forum.
Love, pamela

Hello, Pamela.

To avoid speculations you need to provide information for the general public as well and not just for the "Premier subscribers".

Many related questions have been asked before on your www.davidickeforum.com but for some reason there was nobody to answer. Why?

And now that forum is closed, which is pretty suspicious. Don't you think?

So, I guess you shouldn't be surprised if this particular topic will be discussed again somewhere else...

auron
16-05-2007, 07:08 PM
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kerravon
16-05-2007, 08:02 PM
I cannot beleive that this thread I started has caused so much speculation into David's personal and private life. I have wished I never started this thread, but as father_ted kindly pointed out, it actually works in David's favour.

The initial root of this entire thread comes from the "David Icke, Was He Right?" programme, in which i "personally" (just "my" opinion) beleive could have been better narrated or made clear at the point the house is shown. It is possible that David never had a say in the editing or production process before it aired. If any fingers are to be pointed, this is probably the direction, not at David. Sometimes things can get overlooked, or it is assumed that something is clear. Bottom line is that nobody is perfect!

We all thank Pamela for clearing this up (which personally became clear to me after a few replies to the original thread), and hope that any furthur speculation into David's life will now stop. If David chooses to live in a mansion, then that is HIS decision, and I would even help pay for it or lay the bricks. However, David would never want this, and would never want to be seen as an icon or a worshipped figure looking down at his followers from a big mansion. He is not a Phophet, a God, or the Messiah, David is a researcher and sharer of information (take it or leave it), and is incredibly good at what he does, through hardwork, commitment and dedication. Seeing people wake up and make sense of this crazy world is all the reward for him.

I have replaced the images of David's shared flat on my server with images of some lovely sheep for any speculators enjoyment :)

If an Admin is out there, please close this thread!

auron
16-05-2007, 08:07 PM
If an Admin is out there, please close this thread!

Agreed. :)

december
16-05-2007, 08:14 PM
If an Admin is out there, please close this thread!

I think this thread should be at the top on the page all the time. They already closed the other forum http://www.davidickeforum.com where MANY questions left unanswered.

The Gestapo type of administration will only help to start the rumors.

sean
16-05-2007, 08:16 PM
Hello, Pamela.

To avoid speculations you need to provide information for the general public as well and not just for the "Premier subscribers".

Many related questions have been asked before on your www.davidickeforum.com (http://www.davidickeforum.com) but for some reason there was nobody to answer. Why?

And now that forum is closed, which is pretty suspicious. Don't you think?

So, I guess you shouldn't be surprised if this particular topic will be discussed again somewhere else...

Actually December, the video is about to go up for all members. Pamela made a mistake when saying its for premier subscribers. Hope that answers your question. As for the other forum, that's not owned by David Icke or his website - so what the webmaster decided to do there, is up to him.

i am all i am
17-05-2007, 11:53 AM
Hello, Pamela.

To avoid speculations you need to provide information for the general public as well and not just for the "Premier subscribers".

[B]NO...there is no need for Pamela to do anything that you or someone else says.

If you are so concerned with "speculations", for whatever reason, maybe you could do something about it yourself, instead of telling someone else what to do about it.

Many related questions have been asked before on your www.davidickeforum.com but for some reason there was nobody to answer. Why?

Because no one, least of all David and Pamela Icke, are required to answer any question !!!

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