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bob_jones
12-07-2008, 06:42 PM
These are the "psychotic ideas" about my short career as a chemical engineer.
Having these ideas justified taking my liberty away.
I have been made a prisoner for having thoughts on several occasions.
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING = psychotic delusion = remove from potential public contact imediately.
Read on:-
Fraudulent Psychiatric Drugs
I graduated with a degree in chemical engineering form Swansea University in 1997. My first job a chemical engineer was a Nipa Laboratories in Llantwit Fardre near Pontypridd in the South Wales Valleys.
My main responsibility was to run the P2 methanol recovery Column. This was to distil a mixture of 10% methanol 90% water into a top product of 99% methanol and not more than 1% water and produce a waste product of 99% water and not more than 1% methanol that was sent to the effluent storage tank before being tanked away by Welsh Water for treatment before it could be put in the dirty water drainage system of the country.
During my job interview I was warned by the Technical Director Gareth Vokins that the site was dirty as most of the chemicals had no pharmacological tests done on them. As the months went by I came to appreciate the serious illegality of this. Garth Vokin's God son the Healthy and Safety Officer Glyn Cox told me that there were no safety trap doors around the ladders on the three story high distillation column because he had bribed the Health and Safety Executive £800 for them to pass the safety certificate to allow them to being production at the commissioning stage of the life of the distillation column. The law requires any ladder of over three meters in height to have safety trap doors at the opening at the top or safety gates so that workers can not fall to their potential death by stepping into the opening around the top of the ladders. For pulling of the job off bribing the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) he told me he was given £400 by Gareth Vokins. Glyn Cox told me how it was an on going thing to give bribes to the HSE and that the man from the HSE that inspected the column was not interested in it at all but was keen to come up to the office to pick up his cheque for £800.
One day there was a chemistry problem with the development of the process for a new product and Gareth Vokins was losing his temper as he frequently did as he had earned the nick name "The Viper".
I walked into the laboratory part of the factory and was confided in by a Scots man that worked there. He told me that he did not know why the Viper was shouting at him because he was not a chemist but a psychologist and that he was only pretending to be a chemist for cover for his real job at Nipa Laboratories.
He went on to tell me that Nipa laboratories did not make that much money from producing and selling chemicals but that he had been secretly assessed at Swansea University while doing his degree in psychology for criminal tendencies before being offered his job at Nipa. He told me that they had taken the chance that he would not mind being a criminal to earn lots of money and were right. He said that he had paid off the mortgage on a three story house in King Edwards Road in Swansea only two and a half years after graduation for doing his secret job at Nipa Laboratories.
He explained that his job was to do medical research for the institute of psychiatry in London, the professional body governing psychiatrists. He told me that I too had been secretly assessed at university for criminal attributes and that his job was to write research notes on the workers claiming that the chemicals that they were illegally being exposed to were having beneficial effects on their mental health.
He told me that he had me down as being a little bit mentally ill when I left university but having been exposed to chemicals at Nipa Laboratories I was better.
He confided that the typical profit on a psychiatric drug is 4000% and so he had to write research notes claiming that the chemicals at Nipa were having anti-psychotic effects on the workers. He admitted that he made this up entirely but said that he had to do it because that is what made the money.
He told me how the notes he made were sold as research to the institute of psychiatry in London and they would sell them on to pharmaceutical companies at a profit with the assurance that they would make sure their members the psychiatrists would all say the chemical was an anti-psychotic if they developed it onto the market as a psychiatric drug.
This was except for the reprographic printing ink. They were not making any money on the printing ink business as they could be manufactured more cheaply in the Far East and so they were keeping that one for themselves as it was being developed as an anti-psychotic medication that was going to produce an 8000% profit.
He said that at first he never thought he would get away with it but the man that did secondary research for them thought it was a really good anti-psychotic and he was getting good results by testing it on humans that were meant to be mentally ill.
This was developed, I believe, by BTP and is now on the market as an A-typical anti-psychotic called Respiradone marketed by Janssen and is sold to the NHS for £120 per injection. It causes permanent lactation in women so they have to change their bras every day and I have heard that it causes the face to tingle. It needs an extra large nozzle for injection as the particles of soot are squashed by the small hole in a normal hypodermic needle.
He told me that he could not believe that it was taken to be a cure for mental illness as he had made up the claims that it was having any beneficial effect on the mental health of the workers at Nipa Laboratories entirely.
He also told me that the biocide facility was been used for chemical weapons research by the Ministry of Defence and that if anyone ever tried to blow the whistle on it that they would be assassinated by the Ministry of Defence.
The law requires that any chemical in production has pharmacological tests done on them as they must be submitted to the Health and Safety Executive so that they can use the toxicity data etc to set an occupational exposure limit.
However none were done on the vast majority of chemicals at Nipa Laboratories so that it was not even legal to expose worker to the smell of these chemicals. As no occupational exposure limit had been set as this sets out the maximum level in the air that a worker can be exposed to for 8hrs per day six days a week and 52 weeks of the year.
The maintenance manager Roy Rixon was in charge of sacking people that became ill due to exposure to chemicals at Nipa Laboratories. He would tell them that they were complacent and that their hearts were not in the job because they had come out in a big red rash or become pale as a sheet and lacking in energy.
I was sacked by Roy Rixon for this reason on 28/01/98.
Nipa laboratories were part of BTP plc with their headquarters in Cadishead in Manchester. The share price slumped in 1999 despite the police corruption they had funded to re-butt the truth about their corrupt and illegal practices. They would regularly send out spies to community meetings about the smells coming from the factory to make sure that Friends of the Earth were not onto them for covering the local hosing and woodland with chemicals with no pharmacological tests done on them.
During February and March 2000 the share trading firm Potam managed a take-over by Swiss owned chemical giant Clarient as they are no listed on the stock exchange and so did not need a reputation for honest accounting and so on.
So now the whole of what was BTP is called Clarient Chemicals and so there is a Clarient Chemicals in Llantwit Fardre between Llantrisant and Pontypridd.
The accountant told me to stop collecting data on the P2 methanol recovery column because he was going to include more overheads to make it look more profitable.
Written by Robert Alexander Jones on 22/09/07 revised 12/12/07
Ian2day
12-07-2008, 07:16 PM
Corruption is endemic throughout society. Can it change, yes is the short answer. will it be easy, Not likely I expect. An Anarchistic utopia is a dream I have. I don't know how to make it everyone's reality though. I can just do what I can and hope it has some positive effect on everyone's reality.
darketernal
12-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Corruption is endemic throughout society. Can it change, yes is the short answer. will it be easy, Not likely I expect. An Anarchistic utopia is a dream I have. I don't know how to make it everyone's reality though. I can just do what I can and hope it has some positive effect on everyone's reality.
I share your dream. Keep putting out your energy. Thoughts can change the world.
bob_jones
27-10-2010, 10:58 PM
The UK Constitution has gone.
They have been plotting to section me for years.
Prince Charles has been in personal meetings about it.
The doctor admitts getting phone calls from Buckinham Palaces complaining about patients.
I think he means Rosina...Carol Caplin's mum who Cherie gets out of there.
Rosina left flowers after Diana's death and a not saying; questions remain unanswered; and says all the flowers were taken in and inspected by the Royal Household and everyone put on a watch list.
entrangermercenary
27-10-2010, 11:00 PM
I share your dream. Keep putting out your energy. Thoughts can change the world.
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa WHERE DID YOU SPRING FROM :eek: Welcome back :) an Illuminati insider
ken1960
27-10-2010, 11:05 PM
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dondaz
28-10-2010, 12:23 AM
I read this thread years ago. Are they still out to get you?
The UK Constitution has gone.
They have been plotting to section me for years.
Prince Charles has been in personal meetings about it.
Has the prince been in personal meetings about the constitution being gone or plotting to section you?
Rosina left flowers after Diana's death and a not saying; questions remain unanswered; and says all the flowers were taken in and inspected by the Royal Household and everyone put on a watch list.
So the royal household is also on a watch list. The missus and I signed a book here in Birmingham, bet we're on a watch list too. LOL
They're out for most of us anyway if you go by the Georgia Guidestones, one watch list is as good as another!:D
bob_jones
28-10-2010, 12:52 PM
I read this thread years ago. Are they still out to get you?
Of course they are still out to get me.
They will never ever give up.
That is why I am going hunt them to exctinction so that I can have some peace.
Has the prince been in personal meetings about the constitution being gone or plotting to section you?
Yes Dr. Terry Watts has already confessed that he takes phone calls from Buckingham Palace complaining about patients in Llanelli and I think he means Carol Caplin's mum.
But I have also seen Charles' white Range Rover in Goring Road Llanelli outside the out patients clinic.
And Dr. Alisait Gilbert told the tribunal he had been working with Prince Charles' Royal Protection Police for months at ways of getting me under section before the achieved it last time.
And Marie Baylis of the Political Desk at The Sun was seen talking to Salil Rackshit in Llanelli Precinct Summer 2006 before they jumped on me in Sandy water Park on 26/08/06.
But there is a link.
Marie Baylis was also seen talking to Julian Benet Sergent 495 who was the man that murdered Lady Diana in the Pont D'Alma Tunnel, the tall man with black hair.
He was the custody officer on 26/08/06 and poisoned me with bio-warfare germs.
According to Rebecca Huxley outside the Fox and Goose in Southport when I went to see Queen Tantrum the police have been on TV saying they have proof I am a paedophile and claim I have made a confession.
I told everyone that I had not seen the TV but I guess it was was the man that murdered Lady Diana...Julian Benet because they got involved with corrupt Social Worker Jan Jones to stop me seeing the custody record and Julian is a fantasist that thinks if he dreams he had a confession it will become true...nothing about any criminal matter was put to me or mentioned by me on that day after pint sized PC Mark Evans had mention criminal damage in Sandy Water Park.
I was cross that people were too stupid to work it out...they were lying...lying when they said they had proof and lying when they said they had a confession.
The first I knew they had been saying that was the day of the Queen Tantrum gig last May.
So the royal household is also on a watch list. The missus and I signed a book here in Birmingham, bet we're on a watch list too. LOL
Yes, watch them..they are dangerous.
They're out for most of us anyway if you go by the Georgia Guidestones, one watch list is as good as another!:D
If they are out for most of us then do not let them single people out one at a time for the arguement "Ok I will agree they are out for most of us but in this case the person is paranoid".
Flattery and divide and rule.
So below my level, but it works on most people.
icke_is_right
28-10-2010, 01:38 PM
Bob, not trying to side track the thread but do you know much about chemistry involved in suppressed technology? Eg water fuel or similar things. I'm absolutely crap at chemistry, I'd be interested in stuff you have to say, as you're educated in this subject.
Perhaps your expertise/knowledge reaches to other things?
Are you ill now because of all this chemical exposure?
bob_jones
28-10-2010, 02:20 PM
Yes,
The car that runs on water and the discussion that it could be a re-invention of the work of Stan Meyer who was offered a billion dollars by the oil industry to shut up after making a dune buggy that runs on water.
Meyer refused the bribe and so they murdered him.
I have never been offered money...but if it came from respectfull nice people who were engineers in the industry and not spooks and there was a job offer with it too, I would like to correspond with them.
But the local nut house will make conditions...like unless you can make them agree it works they will take your liberty until you do.
They did the same with money...they lock you you so you can't sign for Job Seeker's Allowance but will physically prevent you from going for Income Support and then claim you mental disorder has given you money problems.
But really Dr Nigel Evans or this stupid nurse have no competency to give opinions of a subject that is way beyond their education.
And yet Nigel Evans stated that my continued detention was nessesary because I continue to invent things..basically the man is an anal retentive and jelous that i have a personality while he is a grey drip.
It was personal...and his diagnosis of hypomania was a joke.
He had been bribed so much money to section me he built himself a swimming pool in Pembrey Golf Links with the money.
This report was for the next corrupt doctor Alistair Gilbert's rigged tribunal and he changed the diagnosis.
He also put the burden of proof on me...reversing the law as it has always been the case that they have never ever proven that I have ever suffered from one single delusion as long as I have ever lived.
The try and make up for it by mass accusation...all bribed for...but they have no proof on one single delusion and never have had.
A Free Energy Murder...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44114
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bob_jones
28-10-2010, 04:13 PM
And Marie Baylis of the Political Desk at The Sun was seen talking to Salil Rackshit in Llanelli Precinct Summer 2006 before they jumped on me in Sandy water Park on 26/08/06.
But there is a link.
Marie Baylis was also seen talking to Julian Benet Sergent 495 who was the man that murdered Lady Diana in the Pont D'Alma Tunnel, the tall man with black hair.
He was the custody officer on 26/08/06 and poisoned me with bio-warfare germs.
If you want to ask Marie Baylis' side of it you can contact her on 02077821420, Trevor Kavanagh gave me the number.
She has always been very polite to me, but is obviously two faced and sneaking about behind my back.
They stopped taking my calls the February after they had had thousands of thousands of them since May 1999.
All I said was that I too think the army is expendable cannon fodder that need to be fed an endless stream of lies while they are sent out to die in wars just to earn the military industrial complex profits, it is just the difference between you and me is that you have the facilities to do it.
The blanked me after that, but I thought my lack of a Hollier than thou attitude would have endeared me to them at last.
dreamweaver
28-10-2010, 05:13 PM
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa WHERE DID YOU SPRING FROM :eek: Welcome back :) an Illuminati insider
Old post. Check the date...
icke_is_right
28-10-2010, 09:40 PM
Yes,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44114
Wow Bob, that's really fascinating. I really think that you're onto something there. Thanks for the reply.
I remember Tomorrow's World on the BBC (probably about 30 years ago), they had a little device that homed into the vibration of a machine eg lawnmower or car engine and cancelled out it's vibration. It did this by cancelling out it's frequency vibration with an alternative one. I've tried searching for it on the internet but never found anything. Of course, it was never put on the market as it would make engines last almost indefinitely.
This device was only a small little block!
bob_jones
28-10-2010, 09:48 PM
Wow Bob, that's really fascinating. I really think that you're onto something there. Thanks for the reply.
I remember Tomorrow's World on the BBC (probably about 30 years ago), they had a little device that homed into the vibration of a machine eg lawnmower or car engine and cancelled out it's vibration. It did this by cancelling out it's frequency vibration with an alternative one. I've tried searching for it on the internet but never found anything. Of course, it was never put on the market as it would make engines last almost indefinitely.
This device was only a small little block!
Well you have the principle there of anti-noise.
You play the sound wave back at it's self 180 degrees out of phase.
So when noise pushes forwards (sound is longitudinal and so vibrates forwards and backwards not up and down as with a transverse wave like light) anti-noise pushes backwards and so the net effect is silence.
The resonance frequency principle could be used to treat disease I think.
The Russians have an anti-infantry weapon that matches the natural vibrational frequency of the liver and shatters it.
So why would it not kill a cancer cell?
Or AIDS?
Old essay...
Sound Waves Cure Everything?
I am a chemical engineer. I do not have a career as I am a whistleblower.
For many years, since 2001, I have been telling people you can cure AIDS and cancer by using sound waves.
The mechanism works by selecting the natural vibrational frequency of the cells you want to destroy.
This is called the resonance frequency.
If sound waves of the resonance frequency of AIDS cells are passed through the body they will vibrate with such violence that they will burst.
I hear that this method is now being taught in university and there is a clinic in Paris that uses it.
It dose not surprise me as I told the French embassy in Cromwell Road in London about it in 2001.
Healthy cells have a different physical size to cancer cells and so shake but don't break.
The target cell however shakes so violently that the cell membrane ruptures, thus killing the cell.
Actually I first suggested it in 1994 in university in Swansea in South Wales.
There is one lady I met that told me they learn about in Swansea University now and have established that it was independently invented in the 1970s.
So patents have come and gone and it can not be patented again.
I disclosed the idea in front of the whole class so could never patent it and I am not trying to make any money out of the technology.
It dose need to be kept on between the time of cell division and fully grown cell, so that as yet semi-developed cells grow into a size where they can be burst.
I tried getting the technology national publicity in the UK and a reporter form the Independent News paper quickly found a story about how sound waves cured a brain tumour on the internet.
But they never took it further.
I hope this is useful because I detect a cover-up.
Written by Robert Alexander Jones 3/12/07.
But when you put resonance frequency and anti-vibration together I think you do get the key to free energy.
bob_jones
28-10-2010, 10:16 PM
It is also completely untrue that i smoked any cannabis whatsoever while I worked at NIPA Laboratories.
The allegation is a fiction made up to support other lies in a willfully falsified medical report.
But reasearchers found that cannabis is useful in the treatment of schisophrenia...
Cognitive functioning enhanced by cannabis use in schizophrenia
1 November 2007
MedWire News:
Cannabis use by patients with schizophrenia is associated with enhanced cognitive functioning, with both frequency and recency of use linked to better neuropsychological performance, conclude Australian researchers.
There is a lack of understanding of the neuropsychological effects of cannabis use in schizophrenia, partly due to conflicting evidence from the few studies that have explored the association.
To investigate further, Carissa Coulston, from the University of Sydney in New South Wales, and colleagues studied 60 males with schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and 17 healthy males, with the two groups matched for age, years of education, and premorbid intelligence quotient.
The researchers examined the participants' medical history, substance use, and psychiatric symptoms, and a neuropsychological battery was administered to determine attention/processing speed, executive functions, memory, and perceptual organization. They also analyzed urine samples to determine the patients' substance use within 24 hours of cognitive assessment.
The control group performed significantly better than the schizophrenia group on tests for psychomotor speed, inhibition speed, visual spatial rule adherence, cognitive flexibility, and immediate memory components.
Focusing on cannabis use in schizophrenia patients, the researchers discovered that 44 patients met the DSM-IV criteria for lifetime cannabis abuse/dependence. Of these, 11 were high frequency users over the previous year, seven were medium frequency users, and 34 were low frequency users.
In addition, 11 had cannabis abuse/dependence in the past week, seven had non-dependent cannabis use in the past week, seven had non-dependent cannabis use in the past month, but prior to the previous week, and nine had non-dependent cannabis use prior to the past month.
Logistic regression analysis revealed that more patients with lifetime cannabis abuse/dependence performed better on the psychomotor speed component than those without lifetime abuse/dependence. Frequency and recency of cannabis use were associated with better performance, particularly on the attention/processing speed and executive function domains.
While acknowledging the issues around cannabis use in schizophrenia patients, the team concludes in the journal Schizophrenia Research: "In essence, the findings of this study suggest that cannabinoids, via their agonistic effects on cannabinoid receptors in the forebrain, may have a potentially useful role in the treatment of high-order cognitive processes known to be impaired in schizophrenia."
zen_anarchy
28-10-2010, 10:35 PM
wow ,bob when i first read your posts i thought you where a bit of a crank or trolling ,sorry:o
as i have read a fair bit of what you have wrote about free energy and the use of sound waves to cure illness ,i see that you have done quite a bit of research and are quite knowledgeable about a lot of science and technology
and have a better grasp of it than i could ever have
personally i think you are onto somthing here and have re evaluated my view on your posts ,if you are crazy then what does that make me for thinking that you may be quite sane ?
anyhow hope you are well and you have posted a very intresting thread ,also i know of the maliciousness of nursing staff with supposed psyche paitents (from viewing it from the opposite side ) ,and if the paitent is in any way troublesome to the staff they usually take that as a psychosis and treat the patient refusing treatment very harshly and inhumainly ,mainly by zombifying through drugs and send in the security
best advice is keep your head down ,and maybe try to get your story out on one of the alternative media radio stations or websites
peace
bob_jones
29-10-2010, 05:44 PM
wow ,bob when i first read your posts i thought you where a bit of a crank or trolling ,sorry:o
as i have read a fair bit of what you have wrote about free energy and the use of sound waves to cure illness ,i see that you have done quite a bit of research and are quite knowledgeable about a lot of science and technology
and have a better grasp of it than i could ever have
personally i think you are onto somthing here and have re evaluated my view on your posts ,if you are crazy then what does that make me for thinking that you may be quite sane ?
anyhow hope you are well and you have posted a very intresting thread ,also i know of the maliciousness of nursing staff with supposed psyche paitents (from viewing it from the opposite side ) ,and if the paitent is in any way troublesome to the staff they usually take that as a psychosis and treat the patient refusing treatment very harshly and inhumainly ,mainly by zombifying through drugs and send in the security
best advice is keep your head down ,and maybe try to get your story out on one of the alternative media radio stations or websites
peace
I am very pleased that you have managed to unblind your mind from the fog of allocated opinions brain washed into the masses by TV.
Of course there is a price on my head.
There are good rational evidence based reasons to prove it.
No paranoia.
And the maisious nurses...yes every single on in Llanelli and a lot in Carmarthen have been bribed to falsely accuse me of mental illness.
They make it up for extra cash.
On here they are forced to try anf potray what I write as illness.
But it stands to reason and logic and a lot of the facts can be double checked.
But Dr. Jaya caught them at it in the hospital.
They were writting up a complete work of fiction without telling me.
She mentioned it after reading their nursing notes.
It was all about how I thought the people on the TV were talking to personally, and complaining of hearing voices.
None of it came from me...they had been bribed and were also bribing the medical secretary to frustrate my efforts to read the notes for myself for that reason.
They had made up a fairy tale illness.
There is no evidence of schisophrenia on this forum from anything I have written...I do not have the symptoms...so they decided to have the symptoms for me against my will and without my knowledge.
Big Brother, Brave New World.
bob_jones
29-10-2010, 06:14 PM
As you can see, this says Sweet Fuck All about scat shit sex, paedophilia or homosexuality.
So thanks to Peky Turds Anal Detective (Kurt), Rebbeca Huxley and Amoured Amazon for letting me know I had been accused of these things on TV.
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bob_jones
29-10-2010, 06:59 PM
NB
Dr Gilbert told the tribunal that he had been working with Prince Charles' protection police for months at ways of getting me under section before they managed to bring it about.
I have never taken on single pill in the last ten years..not even the melt in your mouth ones.
I tell lies about it and that has the same healing effect in the minds of the professionals.
I went out on leave and got shagged two weekends in a row and so they realised I was not taking the pills as all psychiatric medicine given you impotence...so they used injections...assault under unlawful section.
Prince Charles sat on the tribunal personally in disguise.
I used the right to refuse medical examination as you can not make a section without an assessment...you can not make an assessment without a medical examination...so they broke the law.
Dr. Edwards signed the section after reading a sheet of paper expaining the law and fundamntal law and that I fully understood I was gone against without due process of law.
Jan Jones social worker also was paid a bribe to sign a section and did so because Edwards had done it...then informed the nearest eldest relative...never consulted as required by law.
Then there was the GP who refused to sign a section with no assessment because it is against the law.
So Gilbert back dated his own signature and made the third signatue, he also had made no assessment like Edwards and Jones.
He had spoken to me two days before he back dated the signature but he had not made an assessment...there is a procedure..you must inform the person that you want to make an assessment...he never did anything of the sort.
So I was forcebally detained while they made an unlawfull section to further forceably detain me.
In the case of unlawfull detention you go to court not tribunals.
But Charles was bribing the solicitor Richard Paine of Cardiff as he had done previously with Jocyllen Collen and others.
I made my own application for a judicial review and application for Habeus Corpus but it was blanked completely by the High Court.
bob_jones
29-10-2010, 07:31 PM
There never was a Section 25 then..Gilbert went to live in Austrailia.
Makasar discharged the section so there is no complusory medication in the community either.
He went to live in North Wales.
But they have a fantasy that I am on section 17 and that after Sergeant 495 Julian Benet the man in the Pont D'Alma Tunnel..tall black hair...wrote an e-mail full of gibberish (garbbled splelling and repeated sentences) and went running boo hoo to claim it was indicative of a mental disorder they had a fantasy that they could force injections on me.
No in fact they would have to forge the paper work to do that.
Makasar discharged the section 3 so there is no compulsory community treatment under an extended section 17 as Tony Blair had made this a new law as of June 2007.
In fact Julian Benet is a fantasist in many ways.
On 26/08/06 while he was custody Sergent and attacked me with bio-warfare germs in a cup of tea, he had a fantasy that there was no right to refuse medical examination under Section 136 as the government had already changed the law.
Actually the Mental Health Act 1983 was not changed until June 2007.
the right to refuse medical examination is in the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 and remains to this day.
But I was not arrested under that...I was jumped on by three bent pigs in Sandy Water Park and booted in the ribs, had my little finger pulled back and arm wrenched backwards.
They had been doing it on the radio as a pre-arranged plan.
There were no observations of any mental disorder in a pubilc place.
They were coached on what lies to tell later on while they were investigated by Professional Standards.
lilith light
29-10-2010, 09:15 PM
Bob Jones, this is fascinating and scary.
How did you get hold of those documents regarding your diagnosis?
It's sad how they dont have anything positive to say.
You come across as very intelligent. Yet they dont mention that.
They only seem to want to suppress you with pills, rather than treating you at heart of it.
Bob, If you were asked to describe a paranoid thought.
How would you do that? What does the word paranoia mean to you?
Is the reason you dont take the pills because they make you impotent?
If you could recognise & put all your thoughts that you might judge as paranoid into a seperate box in your mind, and keep them locked away.
You wouldn't have that problem with the psychiatrist anymore.
You should try telling the doctor that you dont want those pills because of the harsh side effects. That you need someone to listen to your conspiracy theories indepthly and help you work through them. Tell them what triggered your paranoia was due to the real reason of chemical exposure in your work place. If that's the case.
What do you think happened to you in the year 2000 Bob?
How did all this business with the psychiatrist start exactly?
bob_jones
29-10-2010, 09:38 PM
Bob Jones, this is fascinating and scary.
How did you get hold of those documents regarding your diagnosis??
I took them home with me.
It's sad how they dont have anything positive to say.
You come across as very intelligent. Yet they dont mention that.
They only seem to want to suppress you with pills, rather than treating you at heart of it.
I don't have anything positive to say about them either.
Psychiatry is 100% fraud in every detail.
Bob, If you were asked to describe a paranoid thought.
How would you do that? What does the word paranoia mean to you?
I never have had a paranoid thought...the word is deliberatly in common mis-use...it is unfounded fears...all mine are perfectly placed realistic risk assessments...I'm educated to make them.
Is the reason you dont take the pills because they make you impotent?
If you could put all your thoughts that you might judge as paranoid into a seperate box in your mind, and keep them locked away.
You wouldn't have that problem with the psychiatrist anymore.
The reason no-one takes the pills and they have to lie about it is because they are terible chemical torture designed to destroy your health as fast as possilbe to aid the eugenic death programme that is the real agenda of psychiatry.
The drug mentioned is ariprprozol...known as Abilify.
That is a fucking joke.
Like any and all psychiatric medicines they cripple the user.
You are ignorant of them.
The effects are like having Parkinson's disease, you shake, you get tardative diskinesia, extra pyramidal effects, your neck can bend down and turn you into a hunch back, your tongue can pop in and out of your head uncontolably as you drool and have slured speach, you can't dream, six hours black a night, if you smoke you will go from 10 a day to 100 a day to try and get comfortable but it dose not work, your hand writting goes from open and calm to illegible hand shaking scrawls.
Your eyes go so blured you can't even read a newspaper.
It becomes the most all consuming Hell you can only think of how to stop it.
What lies to lell to get out and away from them.
Some people kill themselves to escape the psychiatris' chemical tortures, it is not life.
You should try telling the doctor that you dont want those pills because of the harsh side effects. That you need someone to listen to your conspiracy theories indepthly and help you work through them. Tell them what triggered your paranoia was due to the real reason of chemical exposure in your work place. If that's the case.
No a psychatris is someone you must tell nothing but lies to.
It is like being in the occult.
Tell them lies and they accept you are well.
Open up and they realise you have problems...to tell the truth is to lose your liberty.
And I am a happy liar.
Just throw them in the bin and act like the Abilify promotion pictures, on the card boad pyramid they keep in the office, on that there is a pcture of a woma skipping across rock mountains with her ruck sack and walking poles...happy out in the great Monatna.
I just do that, go up mountains and once every six months tell the doctor about the wonderfull things the pills have done in my life...they get the picture on the promotional material because that is the one I paint for them knowing they want to see it.
It works.
Tell them that you would be ill without the pills and they are desperate to believe you so they will.
What do you think happened to you in the year 2000 Bob?
How did all this business with the psychiatrist start exactly?
BTP VIAGRA FRAUD MONEY BRIBES PRIME MINISTER
Cherie Blair has a lesbian lover from Llanelli
I wrote that on the wall of Magpie's nest hippy shop in Llanelli with chalk on 18/01/00.
Someone called the police but I knew chalking is legal on the pavement as artists do it all the time.
I refused to wipe it off so I was arrested for criminal damage.
The shop could have wiped it off in two minuites but left it there for a year and then commissioned my old school friend Stephen Jenkins to do his own gaffitti art on the wall.
They never made any complaint of criminal damage...there was no time and could not have known it was there..the police came down the lane from the rear of Woolworths and did not aske them if they minded the chalk.
So I was falsley imprisoned right from the start of it all.
bob_jones
29-10-2010, 10:06 PM
You should try telling the doctor that you dont want those pills because of the harsh side effects. That you need someone to listen to your conspiracy theories indepthly and help you work through them. Tell them what triggered your paranoia was due to the real reason of chemical exposure in your work place. If that's the case.
Now you have struck a nerve you see they Chemical Company say that the chemicals cure menatal illness.
But after I was exposed to them I claimed to be the ANTICHRIST.
They say that is BLACKAMAIL because I am a deciever and there is no way they are going to compensate me for just being myself.
They deny that the chemicals have turned me into the ANTICHRIST.
Read on:-
Was Conrad Black Set Up?
For many years Robert Alexander Jones has struggled with the establishment of the UK.
It all started in September 1997 when Robert obtained his first job as a chemical engineer having graduated from Swansea University in 1997. Robert uncovered a fraud in Nipa Laboratories in Llantwit Fardre near Pontypridd. They were paying-off the Health and Safety Executive as they had done no pharmacological tests on the chemicals and so could not set an occupational exposure limits as they had no toxicity data etc.
They were conducting illegal research for the institute of psychiatry in London and making a lot of money by making false claims that the dangerous chemicals were having anti-psychotic effects on the workers.
Robert was sacked on 28/01/98 as he had been poisoned and it was policy to get rid of the causalities of the toxic chemical works.
Robert had been warned that if anyone ever tried blowing the whistle on the chemicals weapons research the Ministry of Defence were doing in the biocide facility that they would be assassinated by the Ministry of Defence.
In September 1998 Robert spoke to Andrew Penman of the Daily Mirror about the Viagra fraud. That became Serious Fraud Office reference number 3/C/1131 under the auspices of Martin Gately of the SFO in the spring of 1999.
Robert had been living in Plymouth since February 1998 and a few weeks later moved back to his parent’s house in Llanelli so that he could use a phone and sort out an apology and a good reference from the chemical works. And then talk to them about loss of earnings as they had been unprofessional to say the least. It had taken from January 1998 to August 1998 for Robert to recover from the poison chemicals as he has walked into a powder cloud of biocides that were being assessed as a potential chemical weapon by the MOD.
In October 1998 Robert was drinking in the Kilkenny Cat pub in West End and came home one evening fed up with the response from Mr. Dawson of BTP (the owners of Nipa) that there was no substance to his complaints.
Robert had a stroke of genius that night. He wrote to Ian Wilson the managing director of BTP in Cadishead Manchester and told him who he really was…I am the fucking antichrist…he told him…and adolf hitler was nothing but an astrologer’s decoy…he added brilliantly.
Robert made a sum of all the money he wanted for the advice he had given them as he preferred to be paid for positive work than in compensation for their illegal activity and the harm their slander had done to his earnings.
It came to £20,000 and he told him to pay the tax. “Don’t fuck me about” he added wonderfully.
This really was very amusing to Robert because they say falsely that the chemicals cure mental illness and after being exposed to them Robert clearly thought that he was the Anti-Christ.
Detective Sergeant Dave Alinson from Talbot Green police station telephoned Robert’s father soon after and told him that he had all the letters he had sent BTP and Nipa laboratories and he could press charges of demanding money with menaces but that he did not want to as he felt I had been unfairly treated by the staff at Nipa Laboratories.
Ian Wilson had been given until January the first 1999 to sort out an apology from the staff, a good job reference and to start discussions about loss of earnings as Robert had been lowered professionally by Nipa as they were not up to his standards as an employer.
When the New Year came Robert carried out all the things he said he was going to do.
He wrote to Tony Blair about the chemical weapons and he passed his concerns on to the DTI as they are responsible for monitoring the country’s compliance to the Chemical Weapons Convention 1996. Robert in turn received a letter from John Webster of the DTI about it.
Around the end of January 1999 Robert found out from comments made by David Dimbleby on the BBC that Jack Straw wanted to change the law to lock away potentially dangerous psychopaths before they do anything dangerous.
From phone calls made to Jack Straw’s office Robert quickly ascertained that Jack Straw was planning this new law more or less for Robert personally.
When Robert asked Jack Straw’s secretary in the Home Office if she had asked Jack Straw if he had had a bribe from BTP she replied “I’m sure he has Mr Jones”.
Some references were made to Robert by Brian Walden on his Walden on Villains series during the episode about Adolph Hitler made by Junipe productions screened in the spring of 1999. There were comparisons between Robert and Adolph Hitler. One being “And he’s here! And the similarities are enormous”.
In essence what Tony Blair and Jack Straw had done was pluck his last but one letter to BTP and Nipa out of the stack of letters all about bribes to the HSE and safety issues and come up with the spectre that Adolph Hitler was coming again and that Hitler was a psychopath and so it followed that his second coming would be a psychopath too and we needed a new law to prevent Hitler taking over the world.
Jill Dando was shot in April 1999.
It was pointed out to the Cabinet Secretary Sir Richard Wilson in the year 2000 that it was beyond the sense of human comprehension that two serving ministers would have embarked upon such a ridiculous adventure, unless they were paid to do so by BTP.
Also that there was no connection between any demand for money and any perceived threat and that BTP could not go to court and explain that Robert is a great chemical engineer and they are a poor chemical company without making his demands for money look both reasonable and warranted.
President George Bush was sent a copy of the letter to Sir Richard Wilson just before the award ceremony for Tony Blair’s congressional medal of honour was called-off.
During Robert’s campaign to expose Tony Blair for his kickback from BTP Robert became friendly with Barbra Amiel, Conrad Black’s wife and Robert would give Barbra advice on eating cornflakes and keeping central heating on for good health as Robert has mistaken her for Charles Moor’s secretary at the Daily Telegraph.
So Barbra was friendly with “The Psycho” and unlike many members of the press she could not be bribed to throw the story as she was already loaded.
Barbra helped Robert sack Iain Duncan-Smith as he was not performing but the Conservatives gave Michael Howard the job and he freeloaded Robert’s criticism of Blair that people did not want one of his grandiose dates with destiny; they wanted to see a dentist.
Robert already had his third way pinched and corrupted by Tony Blair in 1999 and his inner core of strength snatched in 2000 and was fed up with politicians exploiting his superior intellect to theirs while plotting new law against him for receipt of corrupt and illegal payments.
William Hague was supposed to expose the scandal and push home the hypocrisy of Blair that came to power on a wave of revulsion about sleaze that he had created.
The first chance Blair had he went on the make and was making a fool of himself trying to convince people that Robert Alexander Jones is a psychopath.
Yes he did point out to William that 80% of people wanted to save the pound and so he would “tick the box” for 80% of people if he came out to save the pound.
William seemed to interoperate what Robert said as meaning that 80% of people would vote for him if he said “save the pound”. At least that is how Mark Parsons in his office in Westminster interoperated what Robert said.
But really William Hague was supposed to expose this scandal and win the election and Robert would regain his professional reputation and earnings potential.
Given what is now know about the Royal Family and Prince Charles in particular being concerned (see other attachment) that Robert dose not have a rewarding career as he is jealous due to his unemployability and general lack of self propulsion. It is possible to see the ostrasization of Conrad Black being a hint from the Royals that they did not like his repondence friend and hated him having the power of knowledge over Tony Blair.
Since Bush did 9/11 we can see that there is a power game going on. The FBI were involved in the mass murder of 9/11 and no-one in the establishment thinks they or George Bush should face justice. Libby was let-off but Conrad Black has been sent to jail.
There is no justice system at work here. We see that those that commit crime to assist the terrorism of the New World Order are rewarded for their evil. But those that do not submit to the tyranny and murder required to foist one world government upon people used to democracy are consistently falsely accused of crimes.
Robert Alexander Jones has had to fend off a steam of false allegations that have been made by corrupt police officers and has done so for many years. One even told him off for being inconsiderate to them. She had fabricated false allegations of child molestation on behalf of the Royal Family to help all the people that had been bribed to take part in a conspiracy to murder Robert using VX-nerve gas on 11/02/04 at 22a New Road, Llanelli; feel better about themselves after taking bribes to murder. She told Robert in front of witnesses in Stradey cricket club during the winter of 2005/06 that he would have done the same thing if he was offered all that money and asked Robert “Don’t you think all these people are onto a good thing having all this money?” The implication being obvious that Robert was being inconsiderate to the police by not being guilty of all the false allegations they get paid to make against him.
In the case of Conrad Black there is a flimsy case that has been elaborated to make some of the mud stick. Most of the charges were thrown out as they were nonsense. But the strategy of making a lot of charges in the hope that the jury will accept a few out of balance to the sheer number of false charges made initially did work.
Who is to say that no corporate entertainment went on at Barbra’s birthday party? That one was thrown out.
Here Robert is ignorant, but he though it was the discretion of the directors how much to pay the share holders if anything at all?
Written out of concern for justice by Robert Alexander Jones 11/02/08.
lilith light
29-10-2010, 10:23 PM
I took them home with me.
Did you steal them, or are they obliged to give you this information about yourself?
I don't have anything positive to say about them either.
Psychiatry is 100% fraud in every detail.
So why do you entertain a psychiatrist?
Surely it must help some people with specific problems.
I never have had a paranoid thought...the word is deliberatly in common mis-use...it is unfounded fears...all mine are perfectly placed realistic risk assessments...I'm educated to make them.
Do you mean that your fears are a gamble of what could possibly be, or you really are 100% sure they are true, with no doubts?
The reason no-one takes the pills and they have to lie about it is because they are terible chemical torture designed to destroy your health as fast as possilbe to aid the eugenic death programme that is the real agenda of psychiatry.
The drug mentioned is ariprprozol...known as Abilify.
That is a fucking joke.
Like any and all psychiatric medicines they cripple the user.
You are ignorant of them.
The effects are like having Parkinson's disease, you shake, you get tardative diskinesia, extra pyramidal effects, your neck can bend down and turn you into a hunch back, your tongue can pop in and out of your head uncontolably as you drool and have slured speach, you can't dream, six hours black a night, if you smoke you will go from 10 a day to 100 a day to try and get comfortable but it dose not work, your hand writting goes from open and calm to illegible hand shaking scrawls.
Your eyes go so blured you can't even read a newspaper.
It becomes the most all consuming Hell you can only think of how to stop it.
What lies to lell to get out and away from them.
Some people kill themselves to escape the psychiatris' chemical tortures, it is not life.
That sounds absolutely horrific Bob. I just feel certain that if you told the psychiatrist that, he would not prescribe them to you anymore.
Because that is torture, and far worse than any so-called paranoid thoughts.
No a psychatris is someone you must tell nothing but lies to.
It is like being in the occult.
Tell them lies and they accept you are well.
But in the reports about you, they dont seem to accept you are well.
Open up and they realise you have problems...to tell the truth is to lose your liberty.
Yes Bob, but if you are a prisoner of your mind, as the title of this topic suggests, then there is no liberty. In the reports they think you have problems anyway.
And I am a happy liar.
Just throw them in the bin and act like the Abilify promotion pictures, on the card boad pyramid they keep in the office, on that there is a pcture of a woma skipping across rock mountains with her ruck sack and walking poles...happy out in the great Monatna.
I just do that, go up mountains and once every six months tell the doctor about the wonderfull things the pills have done in my life...they get the picture on the promotional material because that is the one I paint for them knowing they want to see it.
Why give them what you think they want? Why surcome?
Do you get specific benefits from that?
It works.
Tell them that you would be ill without the pills and they are desperate to believe you so they will.
Are you scarde they will lock you up if you tell the truth?
BTP VIAGRA FRAUD MONEY BRIBES PRIME MINISTER
Cherie Blair has a lesbian lover from Llanelli
I wrote that on the wall of Magpie's nest hippy shop in Llanelli with chalk on 18/01/00.
Someone called the police but I knew chalking is legal on the pavement as artists do it all the time.
I refused to wipe it off so I was arrested for criminal damage.
The shop could have wiped it off in two minuites but left it there for a year and then commissioned my old school friend Stephen Jenkins to do his own gaffitti art on the wall.
They never made any complaint of criminal damage...there was no time and could not have known it was there..the police came down the lane from the rear of Woolworths and did not aske them if they minded the chalk.
So I was falsley imprisoned right from the start of it all.
For how long did they imprison you?
What sequal of events did that trigger?
bob_jones
29-10-2010, 10:26 PM
That's what I found amusing about meeting Cherie Blair's lesbian lover in Kavangars Bar in Llanelli in November 1999.
She read my palm and told me how kind hearted and generous I am.
Showed me a love bite on her left breast and said "Cherie did it".
She is from Tunnel Road.
She has big eyes.
I think she was an au pair as she had been pushed out of Downing Street a week before the anounced the pregnancy with Leo.
I thought "What fun" because at the time Tony Blair was out to convince people that I am a dangerous psychopath...Adolf Hitler the Second Comming.
Later she told me how calous the Blairs are and how they used her.
And how Tony had tried to seduce her with Tequila but that she did not want Tony because she loves Cherie.
Cue Britannia Ou la la!!!
Time for a make over and a relaunch I say!!!
http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/RobertAlexanderJones/img078-1.jpg
lilith light
29-10-2010, 10:53 PM
Now you have struck a nerve you see they Chemical Company say that the chemicals cure menatal illness.
But after I was exposed to them I claimed to be the ANTICHRIST.
They say that is BLACKAMAIL because I am a deciever and there is no way they are going to compensate me for just being myself.
They deny that the chemicals have turned me into the ANTICHRIST.
Read on:-
Was Conrad Black Set Up?
For many years Robert Alexander Jones has struggled with the establishment of the UK.
It all started in September 1997 when Robert obtained his first job as a chemical engineer having graduated from Swansea University in 1997. Robert uncovered a fraud in Nipa Laboratories in Llantwit Fardre near Pontypridd. They were paying-off the Health and Safety Executive as they had done no pharmacological tests on the chemicals and so could not set an occupational exposure limits as they had no toxicity data etc.
They were conducting illegal research for the institute of psychiatry in London and making a lot of money by making false claims that the dangerous chemicals were having anti-psychotic effects on the workers.
Robert was sacked on 28/01/98 as he had been poisoned and it was policy to get rid of the causalities of the toxic chemical works.
Robert had been warned that if anyone ever tried blowing the whistle on the chemicals weapons research the Ministry of Defence were doing in the biocide facility that they would be assassinated by the Ministry of Defence.
In September 1998 Robert spoke to Andrew Penman of the Daily Mirror about the Viagra fraud. That became Serious Fraud Office reference number 3/C/1131 under the auspices of Martin Gately of the SFO in the spring of 1999.
Robert had been living in Plymouth since February 1998 and a few weeks later moved back to his parent’s house in Llanelli so that he could use a phone and sort out an apology and a good reference from the chemical works. And then talk to them about loss of earnings as they had been unprofessional to say the least. It had taken from January 1998 to August 1998 for Robert to recover from the poison chemicals as he has walked into a powder cloud of biocides that were being assessed as a potential chemical weapon by the MOD.
In October 1998 Robert was drinking in the Kilkenny Cat pub in West End and came home one evening fed up with the response from Mr. Dawson of BTP (the owners of Nipa) that there was no substance to his complaints.
Robert had a stroke of genius that night. He wrote to Ian Wilson the managing director of BTP in Cadishead Manchester and told him who he really was…I am the fucking antichrist…he told him…and adolf hitler was nothing but an astrologer’s decoy…he added brilliantly.
Robert made a sum of all the money he wanted for the advice he had given them as he preferred to be paid for positive work than in compensation for their illegal activity and the harm their slander had done to his earnings.
It came to £20,000 and he told him to pay the tax. “Don’t fuck me about” he added wonderfully.
This really was very amusing to Robert because they say falsely that the chemicals cure mental illness and after being exposed to them Robert clearly thought that he was the Anti-Christ.
Detective Sergeant Dave Alinson from Talbot Green police station telephoned Robert’s father soon after and told him that he had all the letters he had sent BTP and Nipa laboratories and he could press charges of demanding money with menaces but that he did not want to as he felt I had been unfairly treated by the staff at Nipa Laboratories.
Ian Wilson had been given until January the first 1999 to sort out an apology from the staff, a good job reference and to start discussions about loss of earnings as Robert had been lowered professionally by Nipa as they were not up to his standards as an employer.
When the New Year came Robert carried out all the things he said he was going to do.
He wrote to Tony Blair about the chemical weapons and he passed his concerns on to the DTI as they are responsible for monitoring the country’s compliance to the Chemical Weapons Convention 1996. Robert in turn received a letter from John Webster of the DTI about it.
Around the end of January 1999 Robert found out from comments made by David Dimbleby on the BBC that Jack Straw wanted to change the law to lock away potentially dangerous psychopaths before they do anything dangerous.
From phone calls made to Jack Straw’s office Robert quickly ascertained that Jack Straw was planning this new law more or less for Robert personally.
When Robert asked Jack Straw’s secretary in the Home Office if she had asked Jack Straw if he had had a bribe from BTP she replied “I’m sure he has Mr Jones”.
Some references were made to Robert by Brian Walden on his Walden on Villains series during the episode about Adolph Hitler made by Junipe productions screened in the spring of 1999. There were comparisons between Robert and Adolph Hitler. One being “And he’s here! And the similarities are enormous”.
In essence what Tony Blair and Jack Straw had done was pluck his last but one letter to BTP and Nipa out of the stack of letters all about bribes to the HSE and safety issues and come up with the spectre that Adolph Hitler was coming again and that Hitler was a psychopath and so it followed that his second coming would be a psychopath too and we needed a new law to prevent Hitler taking over the world.
Jill Dando was shot in April 1999.
It was pointed out to the Cabinet Secretary Sir Richard Wilson in the year 2000 that it was beyond the sense of human comprehension that two serving ministers would have embarked upon such a ridiculous adventure, unless they were paid to do so by BTP.
Also that there was no connection between any demand for money and any perceived threat and that BTP could not go to court and explain that Robert is a great chemical engineer and they are a poor chemical company without making his demands for money look both reasonable and warranted.
President George Bush was sent a copy of the letter to Sir Richard Wilson just before the award ceremony for Tony Blair’s congressional medal of honour was called-off.
During Robert’s campaign to expose Tony Blair for his kickback from BTP Robert became friendly with Barbra Amiel, Conrad Black’s wife and Robert would give Barbra advice on eating cornflakes and keeping central heating on for good health as Robert has mistaken her for Charles Moor’s secretary at the Daily Telegraph.
So Barbra was friendly with “The Psycho” and unlike many members of the press she could not be bribed to throw the story as she was already loaded.
Barbra helped Robert sack Iain Duncan-Smith as he was not performing but the Conservatives gave Michael Howard the job and he freeloaded Robert’s criticism of Blair that people did not want one of his grandiose dates with destiny; they wanted to see a dentist.
Robert already had his third way pinched and corrupted by Tony Blair in 1999 and his inner core of strength snatched in 2000 and was fed up with politicians exploiting his superior intellect to theirs while plotting new law against him for receipt of corrupt and illegal payments.
William Hague was supposed to expose the scandal and push home the hypocrisy of Blair that came to power on a wave of revulsion about sleaze that he had created.
The first chance Blair had he went on the make and was making a fool of himself trying to convince people that Robert Alexander Jones is a psychopath.
Yes he did point out to William that 80% of people wanted to save the pound and so he would “tick the box” for 80% of people if he came out to save the pound.
William seemed to interoperate what Robert said as meaning that 80% of people would vote for him if he said “save the pound”. At least that is how Mark Parsons in his office in Westminster interoperated what Robert said.
But really William Hague was supposed to expose this scandal and win the election and Robert would regain his professional reputation and earnings potential.
Given what is now know about the Royal Family and Prince Charles in particular being concerned (see other attachment) that Robert dose not have a rewarding career as he is jealous due to his unemployability and general lack of self propulsion. It is possible to see the ostrasization of Conrad Black being a hint from the Royals that they did not like his repondence friend and hated him having the power of knowledge over Tony Blair.
Since Bush did 9/11 we can see that there is a power game going on. The FBI were involved in the mass murder of 9/11 and no-one in the establishment thinks they or George Bush should face justice. Libby was let-off but Conrad Black has been sent to jail.
There is no justice system at work here. We see that those that commit crime to assist the terrorism of the New World Order are rewarded for their evil. But those that do not submit to the tyranny and murder required to foist one world government upon people used to democracy are consistently falsely accused of crimes.
Robert Alexander Jones has had to fend off a steam of false allegations that have been made by corrupt police officers and has done so for many years. One even told him off for being inconsiderate to them. She had fabricated false allegations of child molestation on behalf of the Royal Family to help all the people that had been bribed to take part in a conspiracy to murder Robert using VX-nerve gas on 11/02/04 at 22a New Road, Llanelli; feel better about themselves after taking bribes to murder. She told Robert in front of witnesses in Stradey cricket club during the winter of 2005/06 that he would have done the same thing if he was offered all that money and asked Robert “Don’t you think all these people are onto a good thing having all this money?” The implication being obvious that Robert was being inconsiderate to the police by not being guilty of all the false allegations they get paid to make against him.
In the case of Conrad Black there is a flimsy case that has been elaborated to make some of the mud stick. Most of the charges were thrown out as they were nonsense. But the strategy of making a lot of charges in the hope that the jury will accept a few out of balance to the sheer number of false charges made initially did work.
Who is to say that no corporate entertainment went on at Barbra’s birthday party? That one was thrown out.
Here Robert is ignorant, but he though it was the discretion of the directors how much to pay the share holders if anything at all?
Written out of concern for justice by Robert Alexander Jones 11/02/08.
Ok, so you were trying to claim compensation from your work place over the chemical exposure.
Did it really make you think you were the antichrist, or did you just claim that at the time?
I can understand you feeling shocked & furious at the boss for letting you be exposed to that.
Who knows what the long term side-effects could be.
Do you think it's a good idea to dwell on all the problems in this rant that you wrote two years ago?
I would rather read the present you, Bob. If you don't mind.
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 02:17 AM
Did you steal them, or are they obliged to give you this information about yourself?
They give them to you...only with TV and newspapers is ther is system where they can accuse you without you knowing.
So why do you entertain a psychiatrist?
Surely it must help some people with specific problems.
No there is no such thing as help...there are just people that made them feel good about themselves in order to escape.
Do you mean that your fears are a gamble of what could possibly be, or you really are 100% sure they are true, with no doubts?
No I mean the five steps to risk assessment...no gamble...I am talking about identify the hazards, and take steps to eliminate the hazards, and if not whare the appropriate Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)...work safe and do not go fucking any rats...even the noble rat or queen rat.
That sounds absolutely horrific Bob. I just feel certain that if you told the psychiatrist that, he would not prescribe them to you anymore.
Because that is torture, and far worse than any so-called paranoid thoughts.
I think you are a well intentioned person that has warped your intention to earn money and is going to Hell.
But in the reports about you, they dont seem to accept you are well.
RD Lang proved in the 1960s that even the most sane and average person he could find (He is also a psychiatrist) when sent to see a shrink was told they are very ill and put in hospital.
Nothing has changed except the bigger catch all definition of ill.
Yes Bob, but if you are a prisoner of your mind, as the title of this topic suggests, then there is no liberty. In the reports they think you have problems anyway.
I am a prisoner of my mind as everyone knows the facts in it are correct but betray me for money and the illness I have is not in my mind but is a fiction made by liars that got rich quick off my moral principles of truth.
Judas hung himself...why not take the hint everyone?
Why give them what you think they want? Why surcome?
Do you get specific benefits from that?
Because I am a military genius, why bang your head against a wall when you can go out for a sledge hammer?
Are you scarde they will lock you up if you tell the truth?
No, that is like suggesting I am not sure of my mind... i would never tell the truth and it is legal precident they can't lock you up for something you wrote or probe you on it.
For how long did they imprison you?
What sequal of events did that trigger?
You mean sequence my French friend?
You want a horror story?
beldazar
30-10-2010, 12:50 PM
Great thread bob, thanks for the insights :)
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 01:04 PM
Ok, so you were trying to claim compensation from your work place over the chemical exposure.
Well I was living in Plymouth with Mark Roberts and still going out with Rebecca Hukley when I began to write to BTP from Cranbourne Avenue.
I could not afford to take them to court.
I tried to settle it out of court.
They accused me of demanding money with menaces...blackmail.
But they could not press charges as they could not explain what the menaces were without telling the truth.
I explained why they percieved the truth to be a threat to lots of people.
I have never changed my possition that is my present position on the matter and will be the future one too.
As long as they tell lies about my good standards as a chemical enigneer I will tell the truth about their poor standards as a chemical company and their corrupt and illegal practices of bribes to the Health and Safety Executive.
They are wasting their time going ca-hoots with Prince charles to bribe psychiatrists who do not know what they are talking about in the subject of psychiatry let alone engineering or that cheek cunt chief cuntsublle mouthing off his gobshite either.
Did it really make you think you were the antichrist, or did you just claim that at the time?
Are you saying it was the New Castle Brown I had before sending it that night?
I can understand you feeling shocked & furious at the boss for letting you be exposed to that.
Who knows what the long term side-effects could be.
There is a huge cancer cluster arounf Clarient Chemicals (Was NIPA when I was there) in Llantwit Fardre...but they blame onother plant; pureolite
Do you think it's a good idea to dwell on all the problems in this rant that you wrote two years ago?
I would rather read the present you, Bob. If you don't mind.
At present I am pissed off with little boy beta male homosexual police officers running about spreading malsious rumours to socially damage me.
But I will restore my reputation ans an engineer and those who get in the way will find their own reputations destroyed not as a response but just as a consiquence of putting themselves in my way where they have no place to be in the first place.
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 01:45 PM
I am a man of boundless genius...no-one else in legal history has been able enough to pull shit like this...
Blackmail and Psychiatry
On Wednesday the 16th of August 2000 Robert Alexander Jones was arrested under suspicion of blackmail.
He had been in a mental hospital for a while earlier that year. He was previously arrested on 18/01/00 in Llanelli town precinct for refusing to clean a slogan off a wall that he had written in coloured chalk.
The slogan was not complete when the police arrived and was going to read:-
NIPA VIAGRA FRAUD MONEY BRIBES PRIME MINISTER
There was no complaint of criminal damage by the owners of the wall and so the arrest for criminal damage was by definition unlawful. The police were keen to take the local celebrity “psychopath” off the streets as a previous precinct chalking stunt had made the BBC Wales news the previous November and had upset the Home Secretary.
Robert Alexander Jones was discharged from hospital on 10/03/00 having been tortured with the strongest and most soul destroying chemical tortures.
They had accused him of being delusional about being called a psychopath and were keen to take bribes from the police to give opinions and make accusations that were grossly defamatory, baseless and malicious.
Robert had not been the sort of person to be taken in by the frauds of psychiatry and so was not going to allow the state to get rich with corrupt and illegal payments at the expense of his career and liberty.
So Robert made a reasonable approach to the hospital for damages.
The demands for money were clear. Robert Alexander Jones wanted damages of £21,000 for the false imprisonment, deformation of his character and a complete and utter withdrawal of the slanderous and malicious allegation of hyper mania.
The hospital had a familiar tactic of making a criminal allegation in order to achieve an arrest so that access could be gained with a pre-determined plan to place Robert under section of the mental health act.
So on Wednesday the 16th of August 2000 the hospital contacted the police; to tell them that there were being blackmailed and made a complaint.
The police arrested Robert and took him to the police station.
Robert was immediately sent to see the doctor as the police had no intention of perusing the complaint of blackmail and had made the arrest on entirely false premises.
However the corrupt social worker that was part of the ambush did not get her way.
The doctor was satisfied that Robert Alexander Jones was fit to be interviewed and so after Robert had put the heavies on Inspector Lindsey and found the police to have told lies about the theft of four pieces of A4 paper from his bed-sit, the police reluctantly had to interview Robert about the very serious criminal allegation that had been made.
During interview under suspicion of making unreasonable and unwarranted demands for money with menaces Robert Alexander Jones took control and did most of the talking.
It was pointed out to the police that the menaces are that I say the hospital have made false and malicious allegations of mental illness and it is obviously true that the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious or the hospital would never have perceived my assertion of that fact to be a threat.
It is thereby and only thereby that my demands for money are both reasonable and warranted.
It was pointed out that if the allegations of mental illness are not false and malicious then the demands for money are neither reasonable nor warranted and Robert was guilty of a very serious offence and the police must press charges.
It was accepted by the police that the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious and thereby the demands for money were both reasonable and warranted and it was therefore accepted that Robert Alexander Jones was not guilty of the offence of blackmail and was released without charge.
There is no way Robert could have been released without charge unless the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious because that is what made Robert’s demands for money both reasonable and warranted.
However Llanelli police were not to be defeated by logic and rational argument and so as soon as Robert was released in the lobby of the police station he was immediately re-arrested under section 136 of the mental health act and forced to under go psychiatric assessment.
This was a blatant unlawful arrest as the police had been comprehensively defeated in their attempts to present a gross defamation as fact and had no logical basis to make any utterance whatsoever.
By this time the time was getting late and the corrupt social worker had gone home and so the assessment under the mental health act was done by professional that had not been given corrupt and illegal payments.
Robert Alexander Jones was declared to be not sectionable and so had to be released from custody again with the promise that he would go and see a general practitioner to get something to take the edge of like Valium for example.
By this time Robert had missed his date and so did not have the fun he was intending to have that day.
The general practitioner was under whelmed by Robert when he sat down in his office a few days later.
Robert told him he needed something to take the edge off and was ordered out of the surgery immediately for wasting the doctor’s time.
This was the art of logic applied to a bogus medical system that claims to have medical products that promote rational thinking.
And yet anyone with a basic grasp of the concept of logic will accept that Robert Alexander Jones had proven that the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious in the first place.
The slanderers were confounded by rational thinking and didn’t like their quackery being shown up for the fraud it really is.
To this day they can not accept that they lost big time. But it is not them that I seek concurrence with and so again they are devalued and discredited for the frauds and irrational oppressors that they really are.
VICTORY ROBERT ALEXANDER JONES
lilith light
30-10-2010, 02:07 PM
They give them to you...only with TV and newspapers is ther is system where they can accuse you without you knowing.
Yet, you claim to know.
No there is no such thing as help...there are just people that made them feel good about themselves in order to escape.
narsisstic people can be very kind and caring. It's give and take in most situations.
No I mean the five steps to risk assessment...no gamble...I am talking about identify the hazards, and take steps to eliminate the hazards, and if not whare the appropriate Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)...work safe and do not go fucking any rats...even the noble rat or queen rat.
I was referring to all your thoughts that stray into unwarrented fears.
What you describe sounds like common sense when it comes to chemicals.
I think you are a well intentioned person that has warped your intention to earn money and is going to Hell.
Think again Bob. Try not to let your fears rule you, or project them onto others. To be born into a body that is doomed to rott, and see others about you suffering is hell. That is why we must find what love there in this this world and embrace it. Dont doubt this.
RD Lang proved in the 1960s that even the most sane and average person he could find (He is also a psychiatrist) when sent to see a shrink was told they are very ill and put in hospital.
Nothing has changed except the bigger catch all definition of ill.
Surely by the year 2010 things have changed somewhat.
I am a prisoner of my mind as everyone knows the facts in it are correct but betray me for money and the illness I have is not in my mind but is a fiction made by liars that got rich quick off my moral principles of truth.
Judas hung himself...why not take the hint everyone?
So you feel very betrayed by the system. Just remember that not everyone is after something. Some things just are.
Because I am a military genius, why bang your head against a wall when you can go out for a sledge hammer?
violence isn't the answer.
No, that is like suggesting I am not sure of my mind... i would never tell the truth and it is legal precident they can't lock you up for something you wrote or probe you on it.
There is no real certainty. You readily doubt others, yet you are not willing to doubt a single thought of your own. Cut yourself some slack Bob.
You mean sequence my French friend?
You want a horror story?
No. Not unless it makes you feel better discussing it.
I'm not french Bob.
(Although there was a french princess in my family tree)
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 03:17 PM
Yet, you claim to know.
Yes, I know, but I have not seen anything on TV or much in newspapers myself.
People have told me and on the balance of probabilities the people that say there has been stuff on Tv must be taken to be telling the truth and as Lady Diana warned me that Prince Charles is bribing all my friends, they are the liars that tell me there has been nothing on TV.
For example there is a link to an article in The Times in the Agent Orange thread.
But for me the secret service disable it so that I can not read the article.
narsisstic people can be very kind and caring. It's give and take in most situations.
Who do you mean, you or me or mental health professionals?
I was referring to all your thoughts that stray into unwarrented fears.
What you describe sounds like common sense when it comes to chemicals.
I have told you before. I do not have any unwaranted fears or thoughts that stray or go too fast for my head.
All that is just slander.
You can not state one fact of mine without there being a good rational explanation for it.
I am as logical as Dr Spook.
Think again Bob. Try not to let your fears rule you, or project them onto others. To be born into a body that is doomed to rott, and see others about you suffering is hell. That is why we must find what love there in this this world and embrace it. Dont doubt this.
You have an agenda of malisous allegation, I have never known that to be motivated by anything other than money.
It is not appropriate or acceptable to accuse me of any mental illness whatsoever.
Really, it is not on.
Not for one second...you are seriously not entitled to your opinion, it is a harmful slander and I will not tolerate even a little.
There are a lot of people around me in life that think it is ok becuse I am outnumbered.
They dis-respect what I say but pretend they care and understand.
But they never will say it to my face because I will tell them to fuck off and get other friends that do not take money to information shield me and pretend what i am saying is anthing other tha 100% correct.
Do you get it?
You are insulting me.
But people know that if they say it to me I will ignore them.
Then all those people that gave them all that money and attention to talk about me behind my back and rubbish things I say and persure arguements for the bent police for them will just be ignored by the police and they will not have any money for being a phoney friend to me.
Robin and Karen blew it and have to buy their own heroin now.
Surely by the year 2010 things have changed somewhat.
No, this is a marketing myth of pseudo science psychiatry...the more modern the better the more able they are with the latest sate of the are science...In fact the fraud has grown so big the claims they make about thier bogus medical products are more detached from reality than ever before.
So you feel very betrayed by the system. Just remember that not everyone is after something. Some things just are.
Not betrayed, but they have caused a lot of damage and I have the right to shove it back down their lying gullets until they apologise and pay the danages they have caused ordered by a court of law.
But they are proven to have bribed the European Court of Human Rights.
So we are going to have WW3 to bleed their resources and then try again.
violence isn't the answer.
And yet they are the one that use violence to further their fraud and corruption with assault by unlawfull arrest.
They also have been murdering people by the dozen.
And en mass with false flag terrorism.
There is nothing more sick than the sound of a pseudo pious police officer murderer moralising as if is the doer of all things right...terrible self justifing bilge.
There is no real certainty. You readily doubt others, yet you are not willing to doubt a single thought of your own. Cut yourself some slack Bob.
Yes there is.
Do not listen to the Occult of Police that tell you there is not such thing as the truth and what they say is going to be the truth without doubt.
I have nothing but hard facts, the truth is one thing and everything that is not therefore is a lie.
If I have the truth and you contradict me then you have the untrue.
When I state the truth that means that there is no room for another idea or opinion that could be just as good or also the truth but different or contradictory to my statement.
If it is Saturday today then you can not say "to me it is Tuesday" and "It depends what you mean by Tuesday" my meaning of Tuesday could mean Saturday".
But with bent pigs and socila workers they think they are deep and philosophical to do just this, by meaning a different definition to the rest of the world whaen they use a word anf then tell themselves it means they are not lying.
For example "Robert openly declares his homosexualuity" actually means "We are homosexuals and Robert is not and we do not like him having that advantage and so we are going to make out his is gay to destroy his reputation out of spite".
When Pecky Turds says the word homosexual when talking about Robert he means someone that will only have sex with women...his own secret definition.
No. Not unless it makes you feel better discussing it.
I'm not french Bob.
(Although there was a french princess in my family tree)
Oh that was just a probe, better than asking sometimes as the correction is the answer and I got the information out of you.
Ta Bob.;)
lilith light
30-10-2010, 04:27 PM
Yes, I know, but I have not seen anything on TV or much in newspapers myself.
People have told me and on the balance of probabilities the people that say there has been stuff on Tv must be taken to be telling the truth and as Lady Diana warned me that Prince Charles is bribing all my friends, they are the liars that tell me there has been nothing on TV.
For example there is a link to an article in The Times in the Agent Orange thread.
But for me the secret service disable it so that I can not read the article.
Who do you mean, you or me or mental health professionals?
I have told you before. I do not have any unwaranted fears or thoughts that stray or go too fast for my head.
All that is just slander.
You can not state one fact of mine without there being a good rational explanation for it.
I am as logical as Dr Spook.
You have an agenda of malisous allegation, I have never known that to be motivated by anything other than money.
It is not appropriate or acceptable to accuse me of any mental illness whatsoever.
Really, it is not on.
Not for one second...you are seriously not entitled to your opinion, it is a harmful slander and I will not tolerate even a little.
There are a lot of people around me in life that think it is ok becuse I am outnumbered.
They dis-respect what I say but pretend they care and understand.
But they never will say it to my face because I will tell them to fuck off and get other friends that do not take money to information shield me and pretend what i am saying is anthing other tha 100% correct.
Do you get it?
You are insulting me.
But people know that if they say it to me I will ignore them.
Then all those people that gave them all that money and attention to talk about me behind my back and rubbish things I say and persure arguements for the bent police for them will just be ignored by the police and they will not have any money for being a phoney friend to me.
Robin and Karen blew it and have to buy their own heroin now.
No, this is a marketing myth of pseudo science psychiatry...the more modern the better the more able they are with the latest sate of the are science...In fact the fraud has grown so big the claims they make about thier bogus medical products are more detached from reality than ever before.
Not betrayed, but they have caused a lot of damage and I have the right to shove it back down their lying gullets until they apologise and pay the danages they have caused ordered by a court of law.
But they are proven to have bribed the European Court of Human Rights.
So we are going to have WW3 to bleed their resources and then try again.
And yet they are the one that use violence to further their fraud and corruption with assault by unlawfull arrest.
They also have been murdering people by the dozen.
And en mass with false flag terrorism.
There is nothing more sick than the sound of a pseudo pious police officer murderer moralising as if is the doer of all things right...terrible self justifing bilge.
Yes there is.
Do not listen to the Occult of Police that tell you there is not such thing as the truth and what they say is going to be the truth without doubt.
I have nothing but hard facts, the truth is one thing and everything that is not therefore is a lie.
If I have the truth and you contradict me then you have the untrue.
When I state the truth that means that there is no room for another idea or opinion that could be just as good or also the truth but different or contradictory to my statement.
If it is Saturday today then you can not say "to me it is Tuesday" and "It depends what you mean by Tuesday" my meaning of Tuesday could mean Saturday".
But with bent pigs and socila workers they think they are deep and philosophical to do just this, by meaning a different definition to the rest of the world whaen they use a word anf then tell themselves it means they are not lying.
For example "Robert openly declares his homosexualuity" actually means "We are homosexuals and Robert is not and we do not like him having that advantage and so we are going to make out his is gay to destroy his reputation out of spite".
When Pecky Turds says the word homosexual when talking about Robert he means someone that will only have sex with women...his own secret definition.
Oh that was just a probe, better than asking sometimes as the correction is the answer and I got the information out of you.
Ta Bob.;)
I'm fedup with all the labels and irrational judgements Bob. I don't intend to insult you, and you shouldn't insult me. I can't say much to you regarding this lest you feel fear, paranoia or whatever you want to call it, and we end up going round in circles. Try not to be so hard on yourself or others.
Things are not always what they seem.
Only you can stop this illusion of illusions tormenting you..
I wish you all the best and will pray for you.
Sometimes the universe answers.
peace~
I'm fedup with all the labels and irrational judgements Bob. I don't intend to insult you, and you shouldn't insult me. I can't say much to you regarding this lest you feel fear, paranoia or whatever you want to call it, and we end up going round in circles. Try not to be so hard on yourself or others.
Things are not always what they seem.
Only you can stop this illusion of illusions tormenting you..
I wish you all the best and will pray for you.
Sometimes the universe answers.
peace~
I think that bob needs a fresh start :)
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 06:43 PM
I think that bob needs a fresh start :)
There is nothing wrong with my memory and so they are memories of real things.
Something I can prove, but the record of threads is being altered.
You started the thread called tea with Prince Charles.
You also said that it was bullshit that I have a degree in chemical engineering and am an OFTEC qualified technician.
Do you want to see the certificates and would you apologies for accusing me of bullshit if I show them?
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 06:48 PM
I'm fedup with all the labels and irrational judgements Bob. I don't intend to insult you, and you shouldn't insult me. I can't say much to you regarding this lest you feel fear, paranoia or whatever you want to call it, and we end up going round in circles. Try not to be so hard on yourself or others.
Things are not always what they seem.
Only you can stop this illusion of illusions tormenting you..
I wish you all the best and will pray for you.
Sometimes the universe answers.
peace~
I have not made any irrational judgements.
I am telling for the third time not to make flase acusations of paranoia, you are also accusing my of illusions with no evidence what so ever.
And you insinuate that there is something wrong with me for taking a false and insulting accusation as an insult.
It is an insult and you should withdraw it and apologise for making it.
The only proven case is that what I have written is concrete fact and absolutly true and totally hard grounded in reality.
Where is you evidence for launching these insults of dis-respect by accusing me of having illusions in my mind.
You have no proof or evidence of that, can you give one single detail or reason of one single "illusion"?
snow wolfe
30-10-2010, 08:55 PM
What was in the bag dude?
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 10:16 PM
What was in the bag dude?
There was a 14 page report about being VX-nerve gassed that I had been giving to embassies in Dublin, while I was gardening for Mrs Corr the Irish Justice Minister's aunty in law (Mc Dowell) the SAS were going in my tent nad replacing it with copies full of spelling mistakes.
But I had an older copy without the mistakes so there was proof.
Some runny shit in a sealed bank bag for forensic evidence of germ warfare and some finger nail clipping as this was over a years since the VX gas attack in Feb 2004 and I could not think of anything else that might still contain traces of VX gas.
The Gardi spoke to Marie Baylis of The Sun that day of 7/7/05 after I had been arrested.
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 10:27 PM
There was a 14 page report about being VX-nerve gassed that I had been giving to embassies in Dublin, while I was gardening for Mrs Corr the Irish Justice Minister's aunty in law (Mc Dowell) the SAS were going in my tent nad replacing it with copies full of spelling mistakes.
But I had an older copy without the mistakes so there was proof.
Some runny shit in a sealed bank bag for forensic evidence of germ warfare and some finger nail clipping as this was over a years since the VX gas attack in Feb 2004 and I could not think of anything else that might still contain traces of VX gas.
The Gardi spoke to Marie Baylis of The Sun that day of 7/7/05 after I had been arrested.
And the one glove as the other had been stolen from my room in Deiniolen to anoy me...why only steal one glove?
And the stabbed bike tyres and tubes after Dean Glen of Judges Flat Betws Y Coed had been bribed to knife me to death and bury me in the woods at the rear of Elis the land lord's house.
He was bribed by Inpector Steve Siddal of South Wales Police church Village CID, I saw them looking into my food cupboard one day when I came home for lunch..they were poisoning me.
He dug the hole.
He shouted threat to kill at the top of his voice in the morningswhile I was shaving before going to work in Rock Bottom.
He told everyone he deals to I am a psychopath incase he needed to claim defence.
But he shat out.
He knifed my bike tyres instead.
bob_jones
30-10-2010, 10:41 PM
And the one glove as the other had been stolen from my room in Deiniolen to anoy me...why only steal one glove?
And the stabbed bike tyres and tubes after Dean Glen of Judges Flat Betws Y Coed had been bribed to knife me to death and bury me in the woods at the rear of Elis the land lord's house.
He was bribed by Inpector Steve Siddal of South Wales Police church Village CID, I saw them looking into my food cupboard one day when I came home for lunch..they were poisoning me.
He dug the hole.
He shouted threat to kill at the top of his voice in the morningswhile I was shaving before going to work in Rock Bottom.
He told everyone he deals to I am a psychopath incase he needed to claim defence.
But he shat out.
He knifed my bike tyres instead.
And as much miscilanious paper work I could throw in a Scappa Shoe box to give a snap shot of my life...Welsh class hand outs and stuff.
Size 11.5.
lilith light
31-10-2010, 12:59 PM
I have not made any irrational judgements.
I am telling for the third time not to make flase acusations of paranoia, you are also accusing my of illusions with no evidence what so ever.
And you insinuate that there is something wrong with me for taking a false and insulting accusation as an insult.
It is an insult and you should withdraw it and apologise for making it.
The only proven case is that what I have written is concrete fact and absolutly true and totally hard grounded in reality.
Where is you evidence for launching these insults of dis-respect by accusing me of having illusions in my mind.
You have no proof or evidence of that, can you give one single detail or reason of one single "illusion"?
Bob, in a sense, i was agreeing with you regarding labels and irrational judgements.. Not attacking you. I was not accusing you, but rather expressing a philosophy that life is full of illusions, and that what you give out, you often get back. In my eyes paranoia is a heightened state of fear. It's not something to be ashamed of. It's not surprizing humans experience it. Some very scary things happened on this planet.
No, Bob. I will not apologise to you again! :rolleyes:
Behave.
bob_jones
31-10-2010, 03:20 PM
Bob, in a sense, i was agreeing with you regarding labels and irrational judgements.. Not attacking you. I was not accusing you, but rather expressing a philosophy that life is full of illusions, and that what you give out, you often get back. In my eyes paranoia is a heightened state of fear. It's not something to be ashamed of. It's not surprizing humans experience it. Some very scary things happened on this planet.
No, Bob. I will not apologise to you again! :rolleyes:
Behave.
Look there is not a quack fraudster in the indusrt that dose not want the vitim of psychiatry to agree with the label.
So was Ellameer right?
I have hypermania...that is a bi-polar disorder...happy one year, sad the next...because after wasting months of my time they had to conceed that the frequency of these mood swings was less than every few months.
Or was Evans right?
hypomania...that is elation...I am so happy that my mind fills with wonder at all my existence...but I was telling people I was not happy with the diagnosis.
Or was Gilbert right?
Paranoid schisophrenia...I could not hear voices in my head but everyone else thought they could and that I was lying about it to spoil their professional presteige.
I have been assessed in Ireland two years running and told that i have no mental illness whatsoever, you need a diagnosis they explained, and that i do not fit any of them.
I certainly did not have schisophrenia as I was too old to develope it and I was sleeping very well (They have trouble sleeping due to the paranoia) I did not think i was being chased by little green men basically.
In Llanelli they altered the diagnosis to fir me because I did not remotly fit the diagnosis.
The Irish pointed out that there was one possible very rare diagnosis called delusional illness and to have it you need a bad memory.
I have proven my memory is excellent.
Look out for wankers altering the record of threads to try and create the illusion of a bad memory when the truth is I have a way above average high fidelity memory.
E.G Dose Michael Christopher of Cincinati still stand by the "ticking time bomb" accusation on the Red Alert To All The Forum thread that he made last April?
No, over two weeks old, the post has been deleted to stop me scoring that point.
No lith light, no matter how much they paid you you do not have the power to convince me a defamation of charqacter label is sometiuhn I actually want and will accept.
Your dishonest campaign has failed miserably.
PS. It was not I that sacked a prison officer for taking part in a murder plot with Sergent 495 Julian Benet of Dyfed Powys-Police* to put me in a cell with a knife man who was going to cut my throat in Clover Hill Remand Prison Dublin.
It was the wing manager...so this "paranoia" is not in my head, but in that of others and is defined as the reality of real dangerous villains working for Prince Charles.
*The tall man with black hair that punched Lady Diana to death in the Pont D'Alma Tunnel.
mikethepunk
31-10-2010, 03:52 PM
Bob you have been in my thoughts lately and my heart tells me that you are right about so many things. I was hoping u still posted here. I wish we lived closer because I would like to be friends with u.
lilith light
31-10-2010, 07:10 PM
No lith light, no matter how much they paid you you do not have the power to convince me a defamation of charqacter label is sometiuhn I actually want and will accept.
so this "paranoia" is not in my head
.
I dont know for certain about the other things you mention Bob.
What i do know is this is a paranoid assumption.
Because I am not being paid to convince you that a defamation of character label is something you want.
It's absurd.
I just wanted to get to the root of your problems, and help you calm your mind from these fears. For which i have obviously failed.
Takecare.
freedom1st
31-10-2010, 07:21 PM
wow ,bob when i first read your posts i thought you where a bit of a crank or trolling ,sorry:o
as i have read a fair bit of what you have wrote about free energy and the use of sound waves to cure illness ,i see that you have done quite a bit of research and are quite knowledgeable about a lot of science and technology
and have a better grasp of it than i could ever have
personally i think you are onto somthing here and have re evaluated my view on your posts ,if you are crazy then what does that make me for thinking that you may be quite sane ?
anyhow hope you are well and you have posted a very intresting thread ,also i know of the maliciousness of nursing staff with supposed psyche paitents (from viewing it from the opposite side ) ,and if the paitent is in any way troublesome to the staff they usually take that as a psychosis and treat the patient refusing treatment very harshly and inhumainly ,mainly by zombifying through drugs and send in the security
best advice is keep your head down ,and maybe try to get your story out on one of the alternative media radio stations or websites
peace
+1
I'm amazed at this guys knowledge.
@Bob...Did they lock you up because you knew too much about something?
bob_jones
31-10-2010, 07:48 PM
+1
I'm amazed at this guys knowledge.
@Bob...Did they lock you up because you knew too much about something?
Ever since I was a child the Royal Household have planned on accusing me of mental illness.
They sent psychiatrist to Pen Tip Primary school to ask me if ?I thought I was the King of England...I said no but mentioned another line from Llywellen and mused that I could be King of Wales.
Thinking back I was in a lot of danger...my whole education could have been stopped and I could have been turned into a zombie.
The family will talk about the story of a page being torn out of the Bible in Betws Chapel that proved the Llywellen descendency...I got something out of them about Henry the Nith, and John Williams Archbishop of York...but the William the fourth thing is burined too deep.
But Prince Charles got himself locked in St David's Mental Hospital Carmarthen after beatting up a dinner lady in Pen Tip.
He was there to order my clas to sit with their backs to me and never speak to me even if I spoke to them, even as a child he used to buy my friends new toys to blank me out and I would have to play alone.
But Charles thought the dinner ladies were insulting him...their female Welsh accents made him think they were involved in a conspiracy with me to call him a Royal Hine-S instead of High-ness...he thought they were all mocking him and calling him a ladiy's bottom...a hine, hind, hiney, but the female form, a hine-s.
He battered Avril Midge and was arrested and sectioned under the mental health act.
My grandfather Fred and his older brother Tom were furious that they mssed the chance to send him to jail and finish the Royal Household off and return the Royal Familly.
I think it caused the crown to to to my Grandfather not Tom's son.
bob_jones
31-10-2010, 07:49 PM
Bob you have been in my thoughts lately and my heart tells me that you are right about so many things. I was hoping u still posted here. I wish we lived closer because I would like to be friends with u.
I have £20 until next Thursday so no trips abroad for the moment Mike!!:(
bemore
31-10-2010, 07:56 PM
I remember Bob calling me a troll lol.....we started off on the wrong foot.
Dont think im attacking you bob, I have only communicated with you through this forum so I can only judge you from what you write. Now from what ive read you putting I can only make 2 choices of your story.
1. You are telling the truth.
2. You are delusional.
Again I repeat im not attacking you Bob. If it was roles reversed and you had lead a life other than your own, reading posts written by me claiming a someone was out ruining my life, from only seeing words you would come to the same conclusions as me. I hope you can see the logic behind that.
Its all illogical anyway, the important part is your sharing your life with us on this website so what can we do to help you?? Im sure there are people other than me that will help you in some tiny way??
bob_jones
31-10-2010, 08:17 PM
I remember Bob calling me a troll lol.....we started off on the wrong foot.
Dont think im attacking you bob, I have only communicated with you through this forum so I can only judge you from what you write. Now from what ive read you putting I can only make 2 choices of your story.
1. You are telling the truth.
2. You are delusional.
Again I repeat im not attacking you Bob. If it was roles reversed and you had lead a life other than your own, reading posts written by me claiming a someone was out ruining my life, from only seeing words you would come to the same conclusions as me. I hope you can see the logic behind that.
Its all illogical anyway, the important part is your sharing your life with us on this website so what can we do to help you?? Im sure there are people other than me that will help you in some tiny way??
You were so determined to convince me you are not a troll that you sent your phone number and offered to rev the engine of the bin lorry to prove you really are in bin man from Derbyshire.
It's just the sound is too easy to fake.
When you get Kiran Cosgrove (I susspect that was the arresting officer of Prince Charles...the man that bribed Henry Paul) going to Cadbury's in Leomster and making salmonela chocolate bars to give to my mum (They have been seeing eachother since I was about 14) and leaving them as bait in the fridge for weeks (January and Feruary 2006) and rizla papers with germ warfare gum strips and so on with spy gadgets, just to arrange an engine reving was too easy I thought.
But I still have the essay on the PC about the deception of the thread record being alterd for the M.I.7 thread and the Contel Pro Methods For Subverting A Forum thread.
I sent it to the main web site and Alex Jones too.
It is important becuse there is a licence to kill and it is illegal...it is not "defunked" and it is illegal to kill people.
You Keystone and Londonis Adolphilis or what ever he was called.
And the method was there too...saying he would be in piss and shit with paranoia unless he took Orlanzapine...they knew that I am prescribed it and wanted me to say "Me too"...they do it with gun clubs on the Alex Jones social network to find out who has what...I show you mine, you show me yours.
The bloke was all for Charles at first saying how qualified he his for the roll.
And that Charles dose not have a Royal Protection Police...and then when that didn't work he said he was a paranoid schisophrenic from Glasgow and admitted he was "Talking shit" about him being in-the-know about Prince Charles....he got banned after spamming some PM I never opened and it disappeared before I read it.
But he was so security minded he showed a pic of his Orlanzapine box held with a big black glove on so you would not recognise his hands later on.
So you trust my memory now?
bemore
01-11-2010, 04:24 AM
You were so determined to convince me you are not a troll that you sent your phone number and offered to rev the engine of the bin lorry to prove you really are in bin man from Derbyshire.
It's just the sound is too easy to fake.
When you get Kiran Cosgrove (I susspect that was the arresting officer of Prince Charles...the man that bribed Henry Paul) going to Cadbury's in Leomster and making salmonela chocolate bars to give to my mum (They have been seeing eachother since I was about 14) and leaving them as bait in the fridge for weeks (January and Feruary 2006) and rizla papers with germ warfare gum strips and so on with spy gadgets, just to arrange an engine reving was too easy I thought.
But I still have the essay on the PC about the deception of the thread record being alterd for the M.I.7 thread and the Contel Pro Methods For Subverting A Forum thread.
I sent it to the main web site and Alex Jones too.
It is important becuse there is a licence to kill and it is illegal...it is not "defunked" and it is illegal to kill people.
You Keystone and Londonis Adolphilis or what ever he was called.
And the method was there too...saying he would be in piss and shit with paranoia unless he took Orlanzapine...they knew that I am prescribed it and wanted me to say "Me too"...they do it with gun clubs on the Alex Jones social network to find out who has what...I show you mine, you show me yours.
The bloke was all for Charles at first saying how qualified he his for the roll.
And that Charles dose not have a Royal Protection Police...and then when that didn't work he said he was a paranoid schisophrenic from Glasgow and admitted he was "Talking shit" about him being in-the-know about Prince Charles....he got banned after spamming some PM I never opened and it disappeared before I read it.
But he was so security minded he showed a pic of his Orlanzapine box held with a big black glove on so you would not recognise his hands later on.
So you trust my memory now?
Im not doubting your memory bob. How can we help you mate???
If you dont wanna accept help off me thats cool, ill understand that. How can other people help???
bob_jones
03-11-2010, 10:39 AM
Im not doubting your memory bob. How can we help you mate???
If you dont wanna accept help off me thats cool, ill understand that. How can other people help???
Tell me a bit about the exercise side of being a bin man...I have just moved to England and want a physical jo to get fit.
Concrete garden oraments and patio slabs gave me my inner core of streanght as I started hard labour at the age of 13...that is why even flabby at the momemt I can still drag three coppers along the road as long as I want...gym strenght is not the same as all day labour right?
PS...that above post should not be there, the links were broken, I could not even get on the main page when I wanted to type it...dark actors playing games as DR Kelly called it!
lilith light
03-11-2010, 11:37 AM
Bob jones!
Free your mind from it's shackles.
That picture of you reminds me of Citizen Smith!
Up the revolution!
bob_jones
03-11-2010, 02:33 PM
Bob jones!
Free your mind from it's shackles.
That picture of you reminds me of Citizen Smith!
Up the revolution!
And you practice your Panthion shot...the last post fell short dear.
bemore
03-11-2010, 07:53 PM
Tell me a bit about the exercise side of being a bin man...I have just moved to England and want a physical jo to get fit.
Concrete garden oraments and patio slabs gave me my inner core of streanght as I started hard labour at the age of 13...that is why even flabby at the momemt I can still drag three coppers along the road as long as I want...gym strenght is not the same as all day labour right?
PS...that above post should not be there, the links were broken, I could not even get on the main page when I wanted to type it...dark actors playing games as DR Kelly called it!
Depends really. Some councils have a policy of working set hours, so you get physical labour at a chilled pace. Some have the policy of "task finish" where whenever you finish (no matter how many hours you work) you can go. Obv this is gonna spure you on to work that little bit harder so I think you will get more exercise that way.
If I had to describe it my job is mostly cardio really. Sometimes you move heavy things but I wouldnt really call it a workout. My round covers on average about 7-9 miles per day.
bob_jones
04-11-2010, 05:13 PM
Depends really. Some councils have a policy of working set hours, so you get physical labour at a chilled pace. Some have the policy of "task finish" where whenever you finish (no matter how many hours you work) you can go. Obv this is gonna spure you on to work that little bit harder so I think you will get more exercise that way.
If I had to describe it my job is mostly cardio really. Sometimes you move heavy things but I wouldnt really call it a workout. My round covers on average about 7-9 miles per day.
That's waht I need, a good calorie burner.
I was watching them this morning...one guy was sweating...the other one was running to catch up.
You would think the one that was running would be sweating but that's irony I suppose.
I have got into a good habbit with my move, weight training first thing in the morning.
I have been into it since I was a teenager.
But I have new toys...sticks.
One is a 2.5 inch think walking stick from the woods, the other is a big pole of drift wood from the beach.
It looks breat over my guitar and it has a nob I hand my preayer belss from...so it is a good decoration of an alcove, but I pick it up and make circles with it, phew, it really gets the core muscles working down my sides aswell as my arms.
Start the runing again next...should be ok after all the things that have ejected themselves from my lungs and nasal cavity since last year.
Plaque balls, rubbery tumour chunks, old brown tobbacco flecks, real horror.
lilith light
04-11-2010, 05:16 PM
And you practice your Panthion shot...the last post fell short dear.
Oh, you naughty big player you.
Dont tempt me!
bob_jones
08-11-2010, 05:34 PM
Oh, you naughty big player you.
Dont tempt me!
You can't accuse me of mental illness and be my friend you know.
It is just that unless you respect that my mind is good and my facts are correct and my morals honest then you are just not my friend.