Tap Water Test!!!!

[paradox]

Easy Tap Water Test:

You can never trust the water supply.
The best way to test it is to get any clear glassand make sure it really clean, pur tap water into it and stick it in the airing cupboard and dry it fast leave it for a long while until the water has evaporated.
Take the glass out and hold it upto the light and check the scum on the inside of the glass.

Thankyou.

[lookfar]

Ewww I dunno if I fancy doing that, seeing it might make me feel sick!!:eek: Have you done it?

I've got a distiller so try to use as much water as I can from that, far nicer:)

[mercuryrapids]

I've recently bought a water filter and the difference in taste is astonishing. I got thirsty in the night last night and stuck my head under the bathroom tap (as us blokes do :) ). The water straight out of the tap (having gotten used to drinking the filtered stuff) tasted metallic and, frankly, wrong.

[nessa felagund]

Does a distiller remove flouride? I know our water is treated with chlorine and flouride. I would like to get some type of home purification system that would remove this.

:)

[paradox]

THis where aluminium come in to play.

Aluminium is free( ie cans)

THey purify the water with it man!!!!

I will look into it.

this metal is supposeed to build up in the brain and cuase all sorts of stuff!

you cant take it out of water becuase it fused particals.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6123848.html

Water purification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0010333

[lookfar]

Does a distiller remove flouride? I know our water is treated with chlorine and flouride. I would like to get some type of home purification system that would remove this.

:)

Yes I believe it removes everything nessa:) I've got this one, it's a bit of a beast & pricey but think they're cheaper in the US.

http://www.2-life.com/site/pure_water_distillers.html

[nessa felagund]

Yes it removes everything nessa:) I've got this one, it's a bit of a beast & pricey but think they're cheaper in the US.

http://www.2-life.com/site/pure_water_distillers.html

I'm checking it out now--thanks lookfar. I would definitely like to get something for our tap water. Don't trust it anymore.

[drhemp]

I have no idea, but a friend of mine who lives in Birmingham where their water has fluoride told me that it doesn't remove the fluoride. We don't have fluoride in our water in the South West, but I'm aware our horrible Prime Minister Brown wants to extend poisoning of use in this way to all regions of the UK. At present only Northern Ireland, The Midlands and the North East have flouride. I uderstand it was put in these areas, as these were where the most troubles from the minors strike occurred and of course because of the troubles in Northern Ireland, as part of a Government plan to mass sedate these areas.

Probably best to stick to bottled water, make sure it is fresh, glass is better, and if you have plastic bottles, don't ever let them warm up in the heat, or the chemicals from the plastic can get into the water.

[tom bombadil]

Hello all. New chap on the block.:confused:

A site that talks about all things greener (in this case 'clean' water) is the itsnoteasybeinggreen site of the same name of the same tv programe.

I think that on a home scale, a steam purifier (that is a steamer device that evaporates the water, leaving only the residue) would be fine for drinking water.

On a taking a bath or shower problems then a water purifier (filter) that fits to the mains water inlet would be my next bet.

You don't have to wash your clothes in this water as your clothes have enough rubbish on them anyway as to not bother or go naked. But seeing as one would want to keep their machine free of scale (hard water area) then your washing machine might as well be connected.

As for flushing the bog (I add this purely for completion of most domestic uses of water) you could re-use the washing machine waste.

To end this all, I would add that some folk might say that a water that has no mineral content is in itself quite dangerous (healthy diet etc.) but I would point out (no scientific basis other than common sense) that in the wild, a chap at land mass A that gets his water from a stream that runs through a volcanic bed-rock is no healthier in the long run than a chap (B) that has a stream that runs through a 'barren' area but still gets by. We adapt. We get the stuff we need, when we need it. Ask any pregnant woman.


As my first post I hope that I did OK. Any comments are welcome.


Tom.

[nessa felagund]

welcome to the forum, tom bombadil.

my main concern is with our drinking water--especially the flouride that's put in it.

the distiller that lookfar recommends looks very promising. thanks for that, lookie--:D

[madthumbs]

I feel stupid for being on this forum with threads like this.

While you're at it, why not get an air filter and see all the contaminants you breath in as well. Soon you'll be living in a bubble and your body will be unable to handle the real world.

[lookfar]

I feel stupid for being on this forum with threads like this.

While you're at it, why not get an air filter and see all the contaminants you breath in as well. Soon you'll be living in a bubble and your body will be unable to handle the real world.

Aww you're back, I've missed your insightful comments madthumbs, lol:p:D

[tom bombadil]

Hello. The thing about accumulated knowledge is that sometimes one does not know when it might come in handy. One thing leads to another. The site I mentioned was for those people that wish to do something about it.

If one is concerned about fluoride et-al, then you could fight it, ignore it, ride with it. Most folk forget it and just go with the flow. I think that most on this site are more concerned with the 'good fight'.

Its ok to fight but that mostly comes later when 'it' has sunk in.

So I just gave an alternative to those that wish to start at a slower pace.

It is odd that you can buy a aluminium pot in the shops, even though we know that to much cooking in one of them is detrimental to your health.

[chris]

I feel stupid for being on this forum with threads like this.

While you're at it, why not get an air filter and see all the contaminants you breath in as well. Soon you'll be living in a bubble and your body will be unable to handle the real world.

Coming from the guy who went all vitriolic over flouride in products that 2tuff used to like is quite a fascinating change of direction.

I distill a lot of tap water, not for purposes of drinking it but for making herbal medicine out of it and so I have done the test put forth in the initial post many times...I have actually accumilated this scum and in Essex at least, there is absolutely huge amounts of god knows what in our water.

I wouldn't go with those expensive distillers as with my experience with distillation has shown that even at a lower heat, the water brings up impurities over the distillation train (and I have a proper scientific setup). This water also has an unnatural metalic taste to it as well.

The best, easiest and probably cheapest way to get clean water would be to collect rain water (which is distilled water) but make sure that the rain has freshened up the atmosphere first and brought all the pollution and chemtrails to the ground, this should be accomplished depending on how hard the rainfall is anywhere between 10 minutes to an hour...After this, it's safe to drink and very clean (absolutely no scum residue after i've distilled it) but if you want to make double certain, put it through a Berkey or decent gravity filter. If you want to make triple sure that this water is okay, boil it up for a few minutes to kill potential pathogens. It tastes of clouds:)

[thematrix]

Easy Tap Water Test:
...
Take the glass out and hold it upto the light and check the scum on the inside of the glass.


Thus showing that tap water has things dissolved in it.

and your point is???

Some questions for you to ponder...

i) How does the water that comes out of the tap get to the tap in the first place?

ii) Even *if* tapwater was perfectly clean and had no dissolved chemical elements in it whatsoever - how contaminated do you suppose it might become after being transported through the pipe network.

iii) How often - and how do pipes get cleaned?

iv) What do you suppose an immune system is for?

v) Have you had your scummy residue analysed to discover what it actually is? (hint: the vast majority of it is likely to be calcium carbonate)

vi) If you performed the same test with distilled water - or bottled mineral water - what results do you think will happen?


re: aluminium.

Aluminium cooking pots are only a serious problem if you use them incorrectly. If you scrape a utensil that is composed of harder material than the aluminium in hte pan along the sides/bottom of the pan (like a stainless steel whisk for example) you will cause small particles of aluminium to become suspended in what you are cooking.

Aluminium also migrates into food from things like aluminium foil and food packaging in much higher quantities than what you'd find in drinking water.

Some natural foods contain aluminium. Potatoes,Spinach and tea for example. (Potatoes also contain the much deadlier poison solenin - IIRC if you ate 50kg of potaoes in one go this poison will kill you, Potatoes are also a relative of the deadly nightshade plant)

Should we stop eating potatoes???

NO!!!!

[Ian2day]

If you go for bottled water over tap water. Always try to get spring water and not mineral water.

[stickylolly]

this is the contents of my Aqua-Pura mineral water ( i was trying to take a picture ... i canny work the camera to do such a close shot :p)-

Calcium 20, Magnesium 5, Potassium 0.9, sodium 13, Bicarbonate 45, Chloride 26, Sulphate 21, Nitrate 8, Flouride 0.1, PH 6.9

Sodium- SALT!
Chloride-is in recycled waters comes from a variety of salts (including detergents) DETERGENT !

Also Flouride! I mean come on ! this is in mineral water .... also what do the numbers mean ?

they get you from all sides !:mad:

[tom bombadil]

The point of the aluminium pan thing that I mentioned was in relation to the comment I made about there being a little info that has stuck in my head that said to much of it (alu) is not good for us.

It ment that I could make a consious desision on reducing my intake.

Trace element would be found all over the food table even on the most 'green' of tables. One does not have to go over board and stop the lot as that would be very hard and not worth the bother (me thinks). But this little bit of info ment that when I next go camping, or want to change my home cookwear, I will avoid alu pans altogether.

I love spuds! :rolleyes:

[monkey]

Does a distiller remove flouride? I know our water is treated with chlorine and flouride. I would like to get some type of home purification system that would remove this.

:)

chlorine will evaporate off the water if you run it and leave it standing in containers for a few hours, It does seem to 'go off' tho after about 24 hours, I assume that 'bacteria' and organic stuff gets 'active' withiout the sterilising chlorine. I hope some one who knows about this can confirm or correct me on this

[monkey]

.. i canny work the camera

CANNAE. It's Pronounced CAN-NAY, like the dutch for NO, NEE(pronounced NAY). Irving welsh is the man for phonetic spelling of coloquial scottish

I feel stupid for being on this forum with threads like this.

It is NOT a stupid thread, people have a right to be concerned with the state of thier water supply. I fit is not at all important then why did you bother looking at the topic at all? do you have time to waste on things that disinterest you? did you only read the topic so you could make snide , superior assertions of your greater wisdom , and bemoan the state of the forum that you are the one brilliant light of truth in this cacophany of fools?

[rixxmixxhell]

I always do water tests.....i am a science buff but really came out of concern for my pets health. I tested my pond water against tap water from two sources.

So i filled 4 bottles of water in empty spring water bottles and left them out side with no lid...each bottle contained a different bacteria specie that grew with in 3 weeks, each with a different colouring, yellow, blue, green and pink/red.
The water was from the same tap. The water was left in the same place, with the same sun and shade variables. Done the same from the hot water tap, as before, each developed in different colours, same variable etc. Won't bother explaining why...

Filled 4 bottles from my pond that contains many snails, daphnia, bloodworm, water lice, etc etc..no fish.

Stayed clean after 3 weeks only green bacteria spp grew, i.e good bacteria, natually forming.

Empty the water, take a sample, look at it under a scope, or take it to a college to ask it to be looked at. Lucky for me i have stuff like that.

Generally, green bacteria specie is good bacteria, forming to digest other organic materia into usable nutrients. I/E, like a dead animal bone providing shade and food for a flower on a desolate mountain top.

The results prove my pond water is more healthy and nutrient efficient than tap water...and to prove it, my animals will show you exactly what water source they would rather drink from, both birds and reptiles......

Rick

[rixxmixxhell]

chlorine will evaporate off the water if you run it and leave it standing in containers for a few hours, It does seem to 'go off' tho after about 24 hours, I assume that 'bacteria' and organic stuff gets 'active' withiout the sterilising chlorine. I hope some one who knows about this can confirm or correct me on this


Water left for 34 hours is best to feed plants and animals as it does de-chlorinate - and bacteria will form that actually rids the chlorine, and then other bacteria species will grow to make a environment fit for small micro organisms, as you can see if you leave water unattended for a few weeks/month many life forms take residence in it. Eventually you will have a viable community of ecologically symbiotic relationships. Nitrogen is also a process to be taken into consideration. Water does not 'go off'. No matter who tells you, it can go stale, but as soon as you mix it, it will freshen it up. And you can prove this by doing just that and seeing how long bacteria take to grow compared to one sample thats left.

Water will freshen up as it normally goes through the ecology of evaporation, condensation, rain fall - if it moves, it freshens etc.

To add - once you introduce a plant specie to a water source, I.e ragwort oxygenating plant, ammonia from snail waste and fish and newt waste will be transferred - thats where nitrogen and then oxygen are pro formed. with out bacteria, this would not be as efficient. Chlorine stops this process, which is why they put it in our water. BUT, this has made our stomachs weak - if you could get used to it, drinking clean water from a ecological standpoint, i.e, a managed ego water pond would introduce many good bacteria into our body's, our micro villi would benefit greatly for absorbing more nutrients from our food intake, and not waste so much through hardened substances found in our water.

And here up north water is softer than in london, having lived in both places, i know this for sure.


Rick

[dark86]

not done tap water for 2 years in the UK. bottled is 99p for 5litres :-( but my health is more important than cash.




www.waykiwayki.com

[stickylolly]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stickylolly
.. i canny work the camera

CANNAE. It's Pronounced CAN-NAY, like the dutch for NO, NEE(pronounced NAY). Irving welsh is the man for phonetic spelling of coloquial scottish


Quote:
Originally Posted by madthumbs
I feel stupid for being on this forum with threads like this.

It is NOT a stupid thread, people have a right to be concerned with the state of thier water supply. I fit is not at all important then why did you bother looking at the topic at all? do you have time to waste on things that disinterest you? did you only read the topic so you could make snide , superior assertions of your greater wisdom , and bemoan the state of the forum that you are the one brilliant light of truth in this cacophany of fools?
12-07-2008 07:48 PM



:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[rixxmixxhell]

not done tap water for 2 years in the UK. bottled is 99p for 5litres :-( but my health is more important than cash.




www.waykiwayki.com

Have you tested that bottled water that goes ''through a process''?????

I know ''some'' water bottles does go straight from the source. BUT mainly in Mediterranean countries. Our bottles water say from Scotland's mountains most still have 'additives'.

And bottled water still has the same bacteria growth as tap water, albeit a different species, most are a blue colour - still not as clean as a fresh water supply. I did have a list of bottled water that is found to contain heavy metals from a 'process' in the processing plants. I worked in one where we took and bottles drinks for the Asian continent - like elder and thistle, because they don't have them plants, they think it's great and health and of course novelty - but really all they were getting was stale water with heavy chemical's, even when the bottle says 'spring water' and the chemical's added to adjust taste correction from the *plants*.

It was marketed as great and beneficial from English flora - it actually said English Flora on the bottle. Some where in plastic bottles, and remember plastic release chemical's into the contents after a wile, hence different marks signifying plastic quality and compounds to identify what pile to put on when recycling.

But in all cases this does not apply. But Don't trust packaging or claims on packaging. I studied how they use wording to evade openly admitting what is in food/drink/containers materials etc.

I drank the Cornwall still water, for a wile untill i realized it had the same heavy metals (by taste) and samples proved added chemical's.

99.p 5 litres, what make is that, is it Turkish??? Serious question my friend cause im always looking for new ones to test - and it may damage your health more than a tap, i mean, are you SURE you KNOW it is any better???

Can the company claim to be able to prove it's contents, i mean, of course they KNOW, but weather they 'tell' is another matter.

I also know some other things because i was breeding snails at one point and i had to research water for a specific reason. Water companies act with complete disregard when concerning sensitive information like that because they play the Terrorism bullshit card..of course.

Rick

[rixxmixxhell]

I feel stupid for being on this forum with threads like this.

While you're at it, why not get an air filter and see all the contaminants you breath in as well. Soon you'll be living in a bubble and your body will be unable to handle the real world.

REALLY. And what do you know about body ecology and immunology and parasitology???? And the 'REAL WORLD' conditions?

Yes, living in a 'bubble' would dis-able vital bodily immunology. But people do this every day when they take headache tablets. Anti biotics and drink fluoride and brush their teeth with it instead of salt etc and so on.

Also - if you knew what you were breathing in i think you would think again.

Lets not mention Chemtrails, (although i just did so forget the sly comments) but The 'atmosphere' we breathe now - how DO YOU know this is 'Normal' real world atmosphere???? I don't think you do, do you? Handle the Real world, or handle toxicological atmosphere?. They sell bottled ozone, good, but not 'real' world' is it, because we are not meant to breath 'ozone'. so i see that the same with medicine.

People are FOOLS to ASSUME a scientific 'fact' and confuse it with opinion or ignorance. Scientific 'facts' are indoctrination as they stand now also - although not all science is 'wrong'..but alot of it is designed to keep you un-knowing of certain factors. You will never be taught about Wilhelm Reich in university for instance. Or Navy wars on Earth's systems to change them, with potential disastrous effects.

So it takes more than a simple guess to come to a personal decision - unlike you, some people actually do question these things. And one day will probably be *officially* proven correct.

Do you actually think our air is as it was?? Do you know in london in the 1800's or thereabout it was so smoggy you could not see more than a meter in front of you? > and yes this was 'cleared up' - but with variable effects on the air quality. Also from places like ex Russian states (*Chernobyl*) and various other places where testing of weapons (Nuclear) and isoperimetrical and weapons like HAARP and (forget name..) have negative effects - destroying Earth's ecological systems, which is why many counter weapons are used to counter them. Orgonite for one.

Wilhelm Reich back then found sylphs and orgonite can work to 'clear up' mess in the atmosphere. Without going into that - i think we can safely say at least we need to be aware of the things we take for granted because it's these things that are being made into weapons against us.

They ruined the atmosphere so much their instillations were attacked from sylphs (or *Freak* of nature as *some* would say) and was forced to detonate in space to test because other forces were stopping their tests - if we carried on, many issues would have arisen more so.

Just because you may live across the other side of the planet from a toxic country, does not mean the jet stream and weather systems won't carry it or travel some other way and affect other geologocal areas.
(and there are more jets and streams than we are told, for Navy security reasons, we are not allowed to know exactly because the 'enemy' could send weapons via it like they did when they first found the jet streams)(found by a Japanese Atmospheric scientist, uncredited i may add)) and for other reasons *cringe*...

Sorry if thats so messy, i got lots of distraction around me.

Rick

[informationx]

Does a distiller remove flouride? I know our water is treated with chlorine and flouride. I would like to get some type of home purification system that would remove this.

:)

You need a reverse osmosis system to remove fluoride as far as I recall. I dont think distilling or filtration works.

[madthumbs]

Coming from the guy who went all vitriolic over flouride in products that 2tuff used to like is quite a fascinating change of direction.

I don't see the contents of the remains being identified as fluoride do you? :rolleyes:

I distill a lot of tap water, not for purposes of drinking it but for making herbal medicine out of it and so I have done the test put forth in the initial post many times...I have actually accumilated this scum and in Essex at least, there is absolutely huge amounts of god knows what in our water.

So you have no idea what it is, but you believe freaking out over it is warranted anyway?

I wouldn't go with those expensive distillers as with my experience with distillation has shown that even at a lower heat, the water brings up impurities over the distillation train (and I have a proper scientific setup). This water also has an unnatural metalic taste to it as well.

Maybe part of that is from the nickel I warned about. ;)

The best, easiest and probably cheapest way to get clean water would be to collect rain water (which is distilled water) but make sure that the rain has freshened up the atmosphere first and brought all the pollution and chemtrails to the ground

Chemtrails? -lol. See: http://jazzroc.wordpress.com/ . I wouldn't recommend acid rain.

If you're going to recommend a Berkey, I hope you're getting paid good because others are. ;)

[madthumbs]

If you go for bottled water over tap water. Always try to get spring water and not mineral water.

Which is most often bottled tap water and just serves to pollute the land, air and water.

[madthumbs]

chlorine will evaporate off the water if you run it and leave it standing in containers for a few hours, It does seem to 'go off' tho after about 24 hours, I assume that 'bacteria' and organic stuff gets 'active' withiout the sterilising chlorine. I hope some one who knows about this can confirm or correct me on this


Chlorine leaves a lasting effect since it reacts with decaying matter to form trihalomethanes. People who have fish probably know that stagnant water should set for 24 hours with ample surface area, and agitated water can be used quicker. I've let tap water set out for 4 days and drank it without ill effect. Bacteria doesn't live on water alone.

[nessa felagund]

You need a reverse osmosis system to remove fluoride as far as I recall. I dont think distilling or filtration works.

We have considered a r.o. system before--I have tasted water that has come through this type of system and it tastes so sweet and fresh. Thanks for that informationx, I will be checking into this some more. :)

[madthumbs]

It is NOT a stupid thread, people have a right to be concerned with the state of thier water supply.

It like many other threads here just serve to discredit the rest of the content on this site as conspiracy whack-job stuff.

I fit is not at all important then why did you bother looking at the topic at all?

Can you rephrase this to make sense please?

do you have time to waste on things that disinterest you?

Do you go to protests to ask people why they waste time on things that disinterest them?

did you only read the topic so you could make snide , superior assertions of your greater wisdom , and bemoan the state of the forum that you are the one brilliant light of truth in this cacophany of fools?

Actually I was hoping for a detailed study which should be expected.

[madthumbs]

Stayed clean after 3 weeks only green bacteria spp grew, i.e good bacteria, natually forming.

-Sure that's not algae or copper?

[madthumbs]

REALLY. And what do you know about body ecology and immunology and parasitology???? And the 'REAL WORLD' conditions?

Why ask me? Why not the OP?

[madthumbs]

You need a reverse osmosis system to remove fluoride as far as I recall. I dont think distilling or filtration works.

Not all RO systems remove the same amount. Distilling with a glass solar distiller is probably the most efficient best way to remove fluoride.

[rixxmixxhell]

Why ask me? Why not the OP?

OP??

[rixxmixxhell]

-Sure that's not algae or copper?

Possibly an algae spp, but as algae con not live in/off water alone there will be other spp in there, but not to go into this too much, i mearly wanted to point out simple tests we could do and then analize the findings. Not copper for sure. Posibally coliform....at worse e-coli. BUT it's hard to know, one one side rain fall would be the best suit, BUT that passes through toxic or at least polluted skies. Tests on local ponds should show geographical changes and pollution level.

I will post some findings in a mo


Never mix chlorine solutions with other cleaning agents or ammonia because toxic gases may be produced.

I don't wanna posts links, im looking through my work..
Rick

[rixxmixxhell]

Ive never used a water filter, like the Buy in Argos type, do they contain salt that helps retain metals thus making the water more palatabal?

Rick

[informationx]

Not all RO systems remove the same amount. Distilling with a glass solar distiller is probably the most efficient best way to remove fluoride.

Yeah, would be good to analyse the water before and after using different systems to see which is the most effective. Expensive business probably.

[talkingchimp]

Does a distiller remove flouride? I know our water is treated with chlorine and flouride. I would like to get some type of home purification system that would remove this.

:)

no a distiller does not remove flouride and boiling water concentrates it, you need a reverse osmosis filter for flouride removal

[informationx]

no a distiller does not remove flouride and boiling water concentrates it, you need a reverse osmosis filter for flouride removal

Seems to be a bit of ambiguousness about this chimp, Ive been on a few distiller websites just now, and they claim it does remove fluoride.

Without proper tests I suppose we wont know the truth.

[3stepsahead]

Ive had a water cleanser for a while now and i can confirm that the water is free of the nasty taste at least.

I can also confirm that they usually cost big bucks but i got mine for free:D

THis african version probably costs nothing at all http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4967452.stm

[diamond dogs]

You need a reverse osmosis system to remove fluoride as far as I recall. I dont think distilling or filtration works.

I know they use this system for the new window cleaning systems that are now in use otherwise they leave the scale and streaks listed..

[chris]

Coming from the guy who went all vitriolic over flouride in products that 2tuff used to like is quite a fascinating change of direction.”



I don't see the contents of the remains being identified as fluoride do you? :rolleyes:

I just find it funny that you went all hypochondriac on 2tuff when you started freaking out over mineral salt and how you talked about him trying to poison us and make out he was working for the NWO and now you act as though we are the pussies. AHAHAHA.


So you have no idea what it is, but you believe freaking out over it is warranted anyway?

It’s certainly not spring water that’s for sure. I love your how you blow other peoples posts out of proportion to make yours sound somewhat sane. If “Freaking out” means that I take no trouble getting pretty clean water over quite visibly dirty with the potential to be quite nasty then I guess I’m the elephant man.



Chemtrails? -lol. See: http://jazzroc.wordpress.com/ . I wouldn't recommend acid rain.

If you're going to recommend a Berkey, I hope you're getting paid good because others are. ;)

I don’t want to talk to you like a retard but where do you think tap water comes from?

You suffer from appalling hypocrisy. You make out like we are all freaking out over tap water but then you freak out over rain water...Rain cleans the atmosphere, after you let it do it’s job then the water is clean, get a litmus paper and test for it’s acidity if your “freaking out” over it that much.

Where do you think tap water comes from anyway? It’s rain water been filtered and then stuff added to it. If you’re so brave to stomach the tap water so much to say everyone who isn’t is a fool then logically you should not be afraid of rain water taken with the proper precautions.

Ah fuck it. Madthumbs you've converted me...

[informationx]

Hello all. New chap on the block.:confused:

A site that talks about all things greener (in this case 'clean' water) is the itsnoteasybeinggreen site of the same name of the same tv programe.

I think that on a home scale, a steam purifier (that is a steamer device that evaporates the water, leaving only the residue) would be fine for drinking water.

On a taking a bath or shower problems then a water purifier (filter) that fits to the mains water inlet would be my next bet.

You don't have to wash your clothes in this water as your clothes have enough rubbish on them anyway as to not bother or go naked. But seeing as one would want to keep their machine free of scale (hard water area) then your washing machine might as well be connected.

As for flushing the bog (I add this purely for completion of most domestic uses of water) you could re-use the washing machine waste.

To end this all, I would add that some folk might say that a water that has no mineral content is in itself quite dangerous (healthy diet etc.) but I would point out (no scientific basis other than common sense) that in the wild, a chap at land mass A that gets his water from a stream that runs through a volcanic bed-rock is no healthier in the long run than a chap (B) that has a stream that runs through a 'barren' area but still gets by. We adapt. We get the stuff we need, when we need it. Ask any pregnant woman.


As my first post I hope that I did OK. Any comments are welcome.


Tom.

Hi Tom,

Welcome! :D

[monkey]

Water left for 34 hours ...............

Nice. Thank you for the info, just the response i was looking for.

[monkey]

It like many other threads here just serve to discredit the rest of the content on this site as conspiracy whack-job stuff.

Not true.

I have LEARNED stuff from this thread, people post questionsd, others answer them, some info may be incorrect but it has promoted alternative possibilites for us to consider and individually research.

for example

Chlorine leaves a lasting effect since it reacts with decaying matter to form trihalomethanes. People who have fish probably know that stagnant water should set for 24 hours with ample surface area, and agitated water can be used quicker. I've let tap water set out for 4 days and drank it without ill effect. Bacteria doesn't live on water alone.

Very interesting, thanks for posting this info, i'll check it out.

[madthumbs]

no a distiller does not remove flouride and boiling water concentrates it, you need a reverse osmosis filter for flouride removal

Re-check your information. ;)

[madthumbs]

I just find it funny that you went all hypochondriac on 2tuff when you started freaking out over mineral salt and how you talked about him trying to poison us and make out he was working for the NWO and now you act as though we are the pussies. AHAHAHA.

It is a fact that people have complained about him and his medical advice on other forums. When someone said they felt like they were dying after taking his advice, he blamed them for not doing their own research, though he acts as an authority on everything. Some of the advice he gives can kill people, and I wouldn't doubt that he's responsible for some deaths. The "NWO" is a term you use, not me. Identify it's base of operations, it's MO, and it's members please. :rolleyes:

It’s certainly not spring water that’s for sure. I love your how you blow other peoples posts out of proportion to make yours sound somewhat sane.

Is your contention that people don't infiltrate these forums to post whack-job nonsense to discredit the whole site and it's members?

If “Freaking out” means that I take no trouble getting pretty clean water over quite visibly dirty with the potential to be quite nasty then I guess I’m the elephant man.

The best tasting water I've had was down stream from a farm that watered the cows with it, and this stream had fish (fish feces) in it as well. I never suffered any ill effects from it, but I have from machine distilled water. One is natural, the other isn't.

I don’t want to talk to you like a retard but where do you think tap water comes from?

Ok, I'll talk to you like one: The faucet.

You suffer from appalling hypocrisy. You make out like we are all freaking out over tap water but then you freak out over rain water...

Not freaking out, just making some points. I'm not the one that started this thread over "dirty water".

Rain cleans the atmosphere

Exactly. Water vapor need a surface to form drops on.

, after you let it do it’s job then the water is clean

Refer to the above reply.

, get a litmus paper and test for it’s acidity if your “freaking out” over it that much.

I'm content with agitated tap water. I'm not the one freakin' out, or spending money on something needlessly.

Where do you think tap water comes from anyway? It’s rain water been filtered and then stuff added to it.

Water here isn't fluoridated, and it's minimally chlorinated. Tap water comes from the faucet.

If you’re so brave to stomach the tap water so much to say everyone who isn’t is a fool then logically you should not be afraid of rain water taken with the proper precautions.

I'm not recommending tap water to health nuts, I'm just stating that solutions proposed in this thread aren't much better, and the information in the OP is worthless. I'm certainly against chlorinating water as I've written about it here: Chlorine / Bleach - A Population Control Measure? (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7187) I've also collected information on fluoride and it's primary sources (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44). I also put up some information on how to build a solar water distiller (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8411).

Air has dust in it, stop breathing! :D

[talkingchimp]

Seems to be a bit of ambiguousness about this chimp, Ive been on a few distiller websites just now, and they claim it does remove fluoride.

Without proper tests I suppose we wont know the truth.

the filters are expensive and inadequate, imy last post was to brief, if u want to be thorough a reverse osmosis system is the only wat to be sure.

[sireertsch]

Easy Tap Water Test:

You can never trust the water supply.
The best way to test it is to get any clear glassand make sure it really clean, pur tap water into it and stick it in the airing cupboard and dry it fast leave it for a long while until the water has evaporated.
Take the glass out and hold it upto the light and check the scum on the inside of the glass.

Thankyou.

Thanks for bringing this up, I already thought about getting information about tap water in Graz/my hometown some time ago - forgot :(
All I can say without checking is that in Austria most of the time water in bigger cities is harder than water in rural areas.