View Full Version : Haltemprice and Howden: Result in full
hunger
11-07-2008, 06:38 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7501046.stm
cheemflo
11-07-2008, 06:47 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7501046.stm
only 110 votes?
cheemflo
11-07-2008, 06:54 AM
only 110 votes?
I am not so sure about this 'awakening'
:confused:
hunger
11-07-2008, 06:57 AM
Maybe they used Bush's Magic Florida vote counting machine ;)
cheemflo
11-07-2008, 07:04 AM
Maybe they used Bush's Magic Florida vote counting machine ;)
Probably - good point :p
mercuryrapids
11-07-2008, 07:57 AM
Just shows how feckin' stupid most people are... :rolleyes:
parmy
11-07-2008, 08:38 AM
i know david says he isnt bothered but 110 votes out of 23911 is pretty shocking all the same!!!!:mad:
Miss Great Britain got more votes for fucks sake,
Miss Great fucking Britain
Ian2day
11-07-2008, 08:46 AM
110 votes! What size is the voter register in that area? I myself am either really fucking mad or its a box swap moment. Did anyone do any canvassing in support of Icke? Must of had the same vote counters as Florida.
largejack
11-07-2008, 08:49 AM
Depressing, fucking depressing, but what can you expect in this miserable world:mad:
Ian2day
11-07-2008, 08:55 AM
This sort of result should be turned to inspire us to not cave in. I just find it incredulous that only 110 people would vote. Was Icke's name the last one on the ballot paper. You know what they do the tptb when an election is like this one. They put up all their mates as daft candidates to ensure that the angry voters are split. To dilute the message.
zarah
11-07-2008, 09:01 AM
Tptb did their job well..they made David's campaign look like it was a joke carried out by some wacko with nothing better to do with his time.
I dont think David should be disheartened..I think this is what he should do. Appear on ballot boxes all over the place..how about the more eloquant and vociferious of our members start thinking about becoming more involved in politics..its gonna take more than David to wake people up in a big way.
largejack
11-07-2008, 09:29 AM
I wish David Icke would remove that picture of David Davis with his smug face off his website:mad:
By the way, let's not get too miserable, Icke's probably broken an election record. He's probably the first candidate to get more people to turn up at a meeting than vote for him.:D
steevo
11-07-2008, 09:41 AM
The votes are not what matters here. In a way, it's great that David Davis won because it shows that people dont want the 42 day thing and if the government dont listen to the people (just like in Ireland with the Lisbon Treaty) then this will highlite even more that we are being ruled by dictators and the sheeple will start to wake up and will start to question "reality".
David Icke should DEFINITELY NOT be disheartened, he has put the message out and planted the seeds. THAT is all it takes. Remember that WE and others didnt wake up in just a week, it took A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS. That is the reality of the awakening process. I feel very positive about what Ickey has done. He did EVERYTHING he could possibily do and THAT is extremely commendable. Well done David Icke. Thanks for putting all the work in and doing very well :)
The awakening is gonna happen and David Icke has given the people of that constituency the opportunity to be one step ahead of everyone else.
THE SEEDS HAVE BEEN PLANTED IN HALTEMPRICE AND HOWDEN
It would be great if Ickey stood in other elections too just so that he can have a platform for passing on the info :)
who elsie
11-07-2008, 09:44 AM
By the way, let's not get too miserable, Icke's probably broken an election record. He's probably the first candidate to get more people to turn up at a meeting than vote for him.:D
Problem is- most people that attended the meeting don't live in the constituency. Cosidering the way he's been either ignored or misrepresented by the media it's not surprising he didn't get more votes. The bigger result, though is in him being able to use this election for a platform to awaken people all over the country/world, not just in a small town in Hull. Just look at the impact that his free video is having - no 1 on Google! This is much more important than this sham of an election.
Ian2day
11-07-2008, 09:48 AM
Problem is- most people that attended the meeting don't live in the constituency. Cosidering the way he's been either ignored or misrepresented by the media it's not surprising he didn't get more votes. The bigger result, though is in him being able to use this election for a platform to awaken people all over the country/world, not just in a small town in Hull. Just look at the impact that his free video is having - no 1 on Google! This is much more important than this sham of an election.
Is it all just entertainment though. Is it a group of stoners in every town rolling some fat ones lighting up and going on a trip.
mr_pixie
11-07-2008, 09:50 AM
only 110 votes?
I was hoping he might get well over a 1,000. :confused:
Ian2day
11-07-2008, 09:52 AM
An exit poll would of given us more of an idea.
redhead
11-07-2008, 09:56 AM
I have nothing but admiration for the man, he has put himself up to be shot down again, how many people would do that?
The number of votes is irrelevant, so what if Miss GB got more votes, that proberbly came from the top anyway just to ridicule Icke & his supporters, but who's really won, David Davis and his smug and self indulgent cronies or the TRUTH, just look at the stats for Ickes Hull Presentation, its the 3rd most watched video in the UK and the 5th, yes thats right the 5th most watched in the WORLD.
Remember folks the revolution will not be televised, so do'nt expect it to, this is a victory for truth and coming hot on the heels of the Irish No vote that our glourious leaders are ignoring, so when Davis time comes he to will show his true colours, exposing more of the lies and deciept of the sick system we live in.
Another layer of the onion has been peeled off and i for one am very happy.
Thats 110 more votes than if he ain't run at all.... At least he's planted the seed in the mind of some folk.
I live in Leeds, so get the Hull news via Calendar and Look North, and I never saw a positive slant for him though, they tended to use the purple shellsuit footage when he got a mention. Many people are still slave to the media.
I ain't downhearted though, and I'm sure David isn't ... its a slow slow process, but the more he's out there and more importantly the message... then the tide will turn!!
:)Love, Light and Blessings
phonicboom
11-07-2008, 11:02 AM
David said from the start he wasn't there to win, so no fuss.
The message got out there, I have 2 friends in Thailand and me here in Australia and we all listened to every word of Icke and not one of Davis ;)
Video is out there - job done!!
grole
11-07-2008, 11:31 AM
...... they tended to use the purple shellsuit footage when he got a mention.......
Indeed. Perhaps it was a bit unfortunate that David, in effect, shot himself in the foot in his early days by the "Son of God" stuff and then, a few years later, with "The Queen, Queen Mother and Edward Heath are blood-drinking lizards".
Those are the sort of things that people remember........ and obviously this suits TPTB very well! But nevertheless it was David himself who put forward this stuff - nobody forced him to. To a degree it destroyed his gravitas.
Which is why, despite vociferous supporters, it is extremely easy for the mainstream media to marginalise him. A quote from The Independent:
"David Davis passed the credibility test by securing a turnout of 34 per cent in the "42 days-detention" by-election he provoked in his Haltemprice and Howden, which he won with a majority of 15,355. True, the campaign did become farcical with the entry of Mad Cow-Girl, Miss Great Britain and David Icke..."
Note how David is grouped with MCG and Miss GB!
David often talks about wake-up calls. Well maybe this is a wake up call for all of us? More of us need to be prepared to put our necks on the block. It cannot all be left to David who, try as he might and unfortunate as it may be, seems unable to shake off the baggage of his earlier years. Those of us with less baggage may have to put ourselves forward publicly (in various ways) rather than just clap and cheer at his meetings. ;)
simjamlmx
11-07-2008, 11:33 AM
Let's not be defeatist here. THERE IS A MASS AWAKENING IN THIS COUNTRY Let me say that until i watched david's video last week i thought davis was genuine. I didn't know about his neocon friends. It's only through david icke forcing the issues into the debate that i heard about david being involved. I Heard david on the alex jones show last week which i listen to alot and was horrified what he was coming out with about this election and david davis barring him from speaking at the public debate. I knew david icke was telling the truth because i've heard some of the stuff before But that's when i became suspicous of davis straight away.I mean how can you Say you're fighting for liberties and then stop another person from taking part in an open debate. S0 that's when i woke up about davis and his neocon buddies co-opting the mainsteam freedom movement. Another reason for decentralisation. It's what alex jones says. Dont blindly follow me, or david icke. They're there to impower you with the knowledge to become jones' and ickes' then you go out locally and do the same. There is an awakening but don't expect to see it on television because it's not in their interest.
grole
11-07-2008, 11:42 AM
Let's not be defeatist here. THERE IS A MASS AWAKENING IN THIS COUNTRY
It is not being defeatist to be realistic. :) There is SOME awakening but it is a long way from a mass one.
Yes, the video is out there and is excellent. But even long-term Icke supporters, I have spoken to, feel David's presentation is hectoring and angry. That will put a proportion of viewers - who are not familiar with Icke - off.
We need to put ourselves in the shoes of Fred and Ethel Sheep. They are the ones that need convincing and all they know about David is "Son of God". It is time for others - without the baggage - to put their heads above the parapet.
swordofjustice
11-07-2008, 11:43 AM
We have to remember that this was an election where we should all learn something.
Look at the BBC website article that started this thread. Not one mention of David Icke in the body copy - the only way you knew he had been standing was from his vote count at the end.
There was a very telling moment in last night's MOCK THE WEEK (BBC2), when David Icke's name was mentioned, designed to be in a mocking way, of course.
Stony silence. Not a titter from the audience. For many young people, they still have no idea of who he is - a good thing, as it means they start with a clean slate.
Problem is that these aspartame-riddiled, mercury vaccine-pumped drones (bless 'em) have no interest in "politics" (which includes "Big Brother", unless you're talking of the word-corrupting Channel 4 chimp-fest).
Remember - anyone who actually understood David Icke's message would have been as likely NOT to vote as to vote for David Icke. After all, as he said, this wasn't a popularity contest, it was about getting information out.
The mainstream media, for any of us in any doubt, played their part and to those of us in-the-know we saw how easy it is to deflect public attention away from the real issues.
Like it or loath it, we now have to find a way to beat the system, if we choose to play in it at all.
David Icke should be a catalyst, but we all have to be far more canny in how we now engage with the political process from this point, if at all.
Me? I've said it in other threads, to be met with consequent jibber-jabber that distracted from anyone looking at what I'd said.
So, I'll say it again here, and hope things go better this time. We need a political movement inspired by America's RON PAUL. That's the guy for liberty, small government, essentially anti-Big Brother.
We have a possible answer. We can get in on the bottom rung because they only formed a few months ago (January, I think).
They are the UK Libertarian Party. Website at:
http://www.lpuk.org/
You can ignore what they are doing, or you can see that their plans resonate with what we hope the UK can again become. And, in turn, change the rest of the world.
Your choice ....
grole
11-07-2008, 11:46 AM
when David Icke's name was mentioned, designed to be in a mocking way, of course.
Is this any surprise - given the Son of God and Lizard stuff?
UK Libertarian Party
Did they stand in the by-election ? :)
steevo
11-07-2008, 11:54 AM
Is this any surprise - given the Son of God and Lizard stuff?
Did they stand in the by-election ? :)
It's true with David Icke that any publicity is good publicity.
If I remember rightly, I first started looking into this David Icke stuff in about 2001 cos I remember him saying that he was the son of god (as we all are in a way) on the Wogan show *spit* and at the time he had predicted Tsunamis, floods and earthquakes and I wanted to know more about what this "loony" was on about. And the rest is history. He woke me up :D
swordofjustice
11-07-2008, 12:00 PM
Did they stand in the by-election ? :)
They are THAT new they haven't stood in any by-elections yet.
That's the point ... timing has to be right, and momentum has to be built. You don't stand in a by-election when nationwide you only have a few hundred members.
And there's only one way that can change that ... by seeing if enough people are REALLY anti-Big Brother and for the rights of the person over everything else, and will join up.
Perhaps you'd like to check out their website to see if it's as I've described ...
largejack
11-07-2008, 12:29 PM
Even if Davis had replied to Icke and thanked him for the nice letter and invitation for a debate might have been something.
mr_self_destruct
11-07-2008, 12:58 PM
By the way, let's not get too miserable, Icke's probably broken an election record. He's probably the first candidate to get more people to turn up at a meeting than vote for him.:D
Ha ha
I'm surprised people are surprised by this result. I'd have been very impressed if he'd got more voters, considering the byelection was a forgone conclusion and the lack of mainstream media coverage he had.
mr_self_destruct
11-07-2008, 01:02 PM
I never saw a positive slant for him though, they tended to use the purple shellsuit footage when he got a mention.
Did he have a purple phase as well as turquoise? :)
phaid
11-07-2008, 01:04 PM
People still like a winner - and when Icke said that he wasn't interested in winning or taking his seat as an MP, that probably put people off voting for him as they would have known it would be a wasted vote.
Maybe he should have held back on the 'not bothered if I win' tactics a bit and in the unlikely event that he was elected, then he should have explained why he wasn't going to take his seat, like Gerry Adams did when he was elected years ago.
It was a low turnout, so maybe there were more people who agreed with Icke but just didn't bother voting because, like me, they don't think it changes anything anyway.
No reason to be disappointed with the votes for Icke - more people have heard his info now than ever before.
Good result, whatever.
mr_self_destruct
11-07-2008, 01:08 PM
Come on...David was never going to be a serious contender! Those who are disappointed by this result must have had massively inflated expectations. David's participation in the election was a start, that's all it was ever going to be...the point now is to carry on without being defeatist about it.
celtic isis
11-07-2008, 01:12 PM
Miss Great Britain got more votes for fucks sake,
Miss Great fucking Britain
OMG...that is sick...there was a miss great britain party? :eek:
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is disappointing...but then david had a sprint to run to get there, it was all very last minute really, anyway, tha fact that he did participate, will wake up a few more, wet their curiosity (I HOPE...).
who the FOOK votes for miss great britain?
largejack
11-07-2008, 01:13 PM
Come on...David was never going to be a serious contender! Those who are disappointed by this result must have had massively inflated expectations. David's participation in the election was a start, that's all it was ever going to be...the point now is to carry on without being defeatist about it.
Well said, depression over something as trivial as an 'election' won't help our course. Continuously tormenting and getting on the back of the media WILL, and we must never go away. I think we also need emergency meeting and contingency plans in case this site is pulled down and we become separated. It's something we need to consider.
celtic isis
11-07-2008, 01:25 PM
Well said, depression over something as trivial as an 'election' won't help our course. Continuously tormenting and getting on the back of the media WILL, and we must never go away. I think we also need emergency meeting and contingency plans in case this site is pulled down and we become separated. It's something we need to consider.
what i bolded above strangely is what i ws thinking about yesterday, we do really need to discuss this, cause this is what they're going to do, then where will we be?
You're right, chin up largejack, i saw your other thread about this, glad you're feeling better :)
At least there's been some more exposure in the mainstream and that can only be a good thing.
:)
duckingdafta
11-07-2008, 01:35 PM
the whole thing stinks if you think about it.. when David had done the press meeting before the actual talk in Hull it began to stink. How hard would it be for some wealthy conservative politician to get 20 other people, give them £500 to enter just to ridicule any eccentrics and new thinkers to the list. (I won't go into details as I got told off by the police for shouting at Davis "Debate some real issues with real people not muppets off the BBC").. because of the way things happened, this wasn't even a bi-election. this was an advertisement for a party political farce project. I will await a cabinet shuffle to get Davis his job back and carry on were they left off. Davis is actually re-wording Ickes sentiments in speeches in the wordings (you can see him reading what he says rather than feeling it), Davis didn't come into this with the glass half full, he waited for David Icke to poor and topped it off for his own agenda. Yes, I realise Icke wasn't in it to win it, and I greatly thank the Ickester for waking up people in this area. I feel one reason he won't stand again is because of what he was telling us in the talk. Parliament as we know it won't exist, it'll be all European bureaucrats.. the grid is among us already and we are now learning to live with it... Like Icke says, Cameron isn't going to turn back the clock on detention rules, he's part of the agenda to carry to the next level.
duckingdafta
11-07-2008, 01:39 PM
only 110 votes?
I can list 24 people I actually gave lifts too throughout the day .. now what they voted I cannot verify though pretty sure it was Icke as to the conversations. something doesn't 'add-up' and I also find it hard to believe it was a 34% turnout on a bi-election in this area... I reckon some electronic buying up going on.
phaid
11-07-2008, 01:54 PM
Yeah, Icke got 'Daviswashed' by DD stealing some ideas which will quickly be forgotten about.
gardenofdreams
11-07-2008, 02:03 PM
I stayed up and watched the by-election results last night, and at first it was odd there was a recount, on the news they said somebody? demanded it. I don't think we should be disheartened, David said he didn't care if he got zero votes. I don't think the votes matter anyway, i think its far more impressive that David has managed to get no1 on google video in the UK and no5 in the world, it tells us something good has come out of all of this, and that many more people are coming to Davids work :)
celtic isis
11-07-2008, 02:04 PM
I feel one reason he won't stand again is because of what he was telling us in the talk. Parliament as we know it won't exist, it'll be all European bureaucrats.. the grid is among us already and we are now learning to live with it... Like Icke says, Cameron isn't going to turn back the clock on detention rules, he's part of the agenda to carry to the next level.
totally it duckingdafta. It already is European Bureaucrats...wonder how the dublin protest march upon french president sarkozy's arrival to do some Lisbon treaty canvassing is going down, i think it's today as well...
mightiswrong
11-07-2008, 03:32 PM
David didn't want any votes. Those 110 people should have spent their time communicating information instead of wasting their time voting.
stealth
11-07-2008, 03:52 PM
Even mike martin and his mason cronies were surprised at how many votes DI got.:eek:http://www.thefreemason.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=7888&#61014
loderlive
11-07-2008, 03:55 PM
12th out of 26 ain't bad, it could have been a lot worse. He at least sits with candidates in the hundreds.
1- David Davis (Conservative): 17,113 (71.57%, +24.11%)
2- Shan Oakes (Green): 1,758 (7.35%)
3- Joanne Robinson (Eng Dem): 1,714 (7.17%)
4- Tess Culnane (NF): 544 (2.28%)
5- Gemma Garrett (Miss GB Party): 521 (2.18%)
6- Jill Saward (Independent): 492 (2.06%)
7- Mad Cow-Girl (Loony) 412 (1.72%)
8- Walter Sweeney (Independent) 238 (1.00%)
9- John Nicholson (Independent) 162 (0.68%)
10- David Craig (Independent) 135 (0.56%)
11- David Pinder (New Party) 135 (0.56%)
12- David Icke (ND) 110 (0.46%)
13- Hamish Howitt (Freedom) 91 (0.38%)
14- Christopher Talbot (SEP) 84 (0.35%)
15- Grace Astley (Independent) 77 (0.32%)
16- George Hargreaves (Ch P) 76 (0.32%)
17- David Bishop (Elvis) 44 (0.18%)
18- John Upex (Independent) 38 (0.16%)
19- Greg Wood (Independent) 32 (0.13%)
20- Eamonn Fitzpatrick (Independent) 31 (0.13%)
21- Ronnie Carroll (History) 29 (0.12%)
22- Thomas Darwood (Independent) 25 (0.10%)
23- Christopher Foren (Independent) 23 (0.10%)
24- Herbert Crossman (Independent) 11 (0.05%)
25- Tony Farnon (Independent) 8 (0.03%)
26- Norman Scarth (Independent) 8 (0.03%)
hirschfan
11-07-2008, 04:29 PM
He got as many votes as I thought he would, not many but as DI said himself and many of you have pointed the result wasn't the point. I actually think that if 100 people in a small part of Hull voted for him then that bodes well for the numbers of people accross the country so things are obviously moving in the right direction.
Respect to those of you who've said WE need to put our necks on the line. This is my second term of Ickism after the first reading some years ago I spent those intervening years thinking everybody was stupid, not a very good position to hold if you want to maintain some semblance of normality, anyway my point is that after coming back to this way of thinking because of a couple of mates who discovered him I think we need to just not be scared to talk about these things. More people free their tongues the more people will start to accept that maybe we're not mad. After all it's difficult to for most people see past the lizard loving, shell suit, son of god stuff, I mean I have friends who would probably agree with most of his writings but even though they're pretty inelligent folks they still can't get past this first hurdle. Time, time, time.. just hurry up pleeeeasssee.
questi
11-07-2008, 05:42 PM
Take a leaf outta Davids book and look at things a bit more possitively. Out of 26, David Icke was 12th. That made him closer to the top than the bottom.
And it don't mean that only 110 extra people have'nt woken up either.
Seeds take time to begin to grow before they start to flurish. Lets just sit back and wait n see over the coming months to a year how many more people wanna register here. Besides if he only woke 1 person up that would be a job well done, it would mean another truther to help spread the knowledge and truth. Good things often come in small parcels.
Thankyou for being you David.
Take care out there all.
diamond dogs
11-07-2008, 06:00 PM
Well David's vid on Google UK was No 1 viewed (Fact)
I was on a betting Forum and there was a topic re DI and the by-election there were 3 in favour of him, 2 mocking and 1 neutral I was amazed that I was not in a minority (Fact)
70 something per cent of 30 something per cent for the 'winner' proves people are disillusioned with politics (Fact)
Take what you want out of the result but this by-election has proved to me that we are further down the road to dictatorship than I imagined...
red_ram
11-07-2008, 06:33 PM
This was never about votes, as David himself said. It was about an opportunity to put some more info in the public domain while it was in the news. Only 100 may have voted, but that's a small by-election representing a small portion of our small country. The video David made is currently Number 1 on Google UK. It's going to go right around the world and be seen more widely than this non-event political vote ever could be.
Not as depressing as you might think.
Plus, he got very little mention in the mainstream media.
fikle
11-07-2008, 08:01 PM
I think I expected him to get a little more of the vote, however I watched the video of the presentation he gave at his public meeting and I don't think I've ever seen him express himself so articulately. The audiences response captured on the tape was heartening enough for me to consider this excercise worthwhile. It is also heartening to look at the artcle the Times wrote about him recently:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4226273.ece
The article is predictably a load of ill-informed, narrow minded sensationalist bollocks but read the comments below it. out of 28 comments only two are derisery of Icke and the rest are positive about him or what he's talking about. In terms of the attitude of the people I'll take that over the Haltemprice and Howden election result.
beldazar
11-07-2008, 08:24 PM
:eek::eek::eek:
Thats the last time I visit the freemason forum! Mike Mason, you should be very ashamed of yourself you spy!! Oh, and old chestnut! Ah well......
All that talk about DI being in it for the money and all you masons have sold your soul for money!!!
What do you expect the guy to live off, fresh air? How thick are you lot?
jimmi
11-07-2008, 08:41 PM
We should all be focussing on the positives of this minor skirmish in the war that we are in, for sure our David did not 'win' but he certainly hasn't lost either.
The video of David's talk is a brilliant tool for us to use and I believe it's already a big boost to the awakening process.
Speaking for everyone on this planet:D well done David and we all thank you very much for your continued efforts on our behalf!
beldazar
11-07-2008, 08:53 PM
Hear hear! (oops I sound like a pm!!! :eek:)
No I think David is brilliant! Well done mate! :D
Even mike martin and his mason cronies were surprised at how many votes DI got.:eek:http://www.thefreemason.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=7888&#61014
haha that is hilarious have you read what they have written .. i think its funny ...
:D
please dont abuse me .. and no i am not a mason .. blah blah blah blah blah ..
still think it is funny that thread
sorry not the haltemprice thread this one
http://www.thefreemason.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=6637
beldazar
11-07-2008, 09:59 PM
yes I suppose it is now Ive calmed down, thanks Izzy :D
largejack
11-07-2008, 10:39 PM
Miss Great Britain got more votes for fucks sake,
Miss Great fucking Britain
She also got a lot of media attention:(
Miss Great Britain? she wasn't that nice
largejack
11-07-2008, 11:09 PM
haha that is hilarious have you read what they have written .. i think its funny ...
:D
please dont abuse me .. and no i am not a mason .. blah blah blah blah blah ..
still think it is funny that thread
sorry not the haltemprice thread this one
http://www.thefreemason.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=6637
I've left my feelings on their forum:D
I felt like leaving the contents of my stomach, but sadly that's not possible on the net
stealth
11-07-2008, 11:20 PM
I've left my feelings on their forum:D
I felt like leaving the contents of my stomach, but sadly that's not possible on the net
Nice one largejack,a taste of their own medicine i think.here's the link:Dhttp://www.thefreemason.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=7888%20&whichpage=2
largejack
11-07-2008, 11:56 PM
We should all be focussing on the positives of this minor skirmish in the war that we are in, for sure our David did not 'win' but he certainly hasn't lost either.
The video of David's talk is a brilliant tool for us to use and I believe it's already a big boost to the awakening process.
Speaking for everyone on this planet:D well done David and we all thank you very much for your continued efforts on our behalf!
Aye, and when the noose starts tightening around peoples' necks very soon, more and more people will wish they had listened to him, but may be it is now part of humanity's destiny that we will have to experience the darkest of times to finally wake up. I think it is probably a necessity sadly. In a year or two people WILL wake up but for many it will be too late :(
duckingdafta
11-07-2008, 11:57 PM
Hear hear! (oops I sound like a pm!!! :eek:)
No I think David is brilliant! Well done mate! :D
rather that, than one of the mp's..:eek:
celtic isis
12-07-2008, 12:03 AM
We should all be focussing on the positives of this minor skirmish in the war that we are in, for sure our David did not 'win' but he certainly hasn't lost either.
The video of David's talk is a brilliant tool for us to use and I believe it's already a big boost to the awakening process.
Speaking for everyone on this planet:D well done David and we all thank you very much for your continued efforts on our behalf!
well said jimmi :) david's talk is his victory, there he is after 20 years as he said, and he's still there, and getting cheered and whistled instead of laughed at.
he's a legend. and time other people gave him the recognition he deserves.
:)
celtic isis
12-07-2008, 12:05 AM
Aye, and when the noose starts tightening around peoples' necks very soon, more and more people will wish they had listened to him, but may be it is now part of humanity's destiny that we will have to experience the darkest of times to finally wake up. I think it is probably a necessity sadly. In a year or two people WILL wake up but for many it will be too late :(
no truer words said largejack, this is exactly how it is and will be.
screw those people, at least we bothered to do something, we bothered to look above from our laptop telly dinners and see the bigger picture and awaken others, those people deserve what they're going to get, i'm sorry to be so harsh but it's fooking true!!!
grole
12-07-2008, 01:10 AM
The problem is that whenever Big Brother issues come up in the future, who will the media turn to for comment - David Davis or David Icke?
I think we all know the answer to that one! :(
DD can now say that he has a firm mandate to speak on such matters and the media can treat DI with even more ridicule... no doubt saying something on the lines of "former Son of God polled much less than Mad Cow-Girl and Miss GB". That's if they do not ignore him, which is an even more likely scenario.
Sorry but it's not enough that DI's videos are getting record viewings on GoogleVideo (which has only a tiny fraction of the number of vids on YouTube, incidentally, so it doesn't mean as much as you might think).
It is becoming increasingly clear to me that DI may not be the person to lead the next stage of the fightback. It pains me to say that. Sadly he has too much baggage of ridicule - not just from TPTB but from ordinary sheeple. Although it was a long time ago, the 'Son of God' thing -which caused a lot of offence - still sticks to him like a limpet. The 'Queen is a Bloodthirsty Lizard' thing caused many to turn off completely.
I don't pretend I have the answer to this, but we need many more people prepared to take a public stand and to use existing structures (including elections) and maybe take the fight right to the core of the system, rather than stand outside it and give lectures, to the disaffected, in a angry hectoring tones.
I have a picture in my mind of the attack on the mothership in the film Independence Day! Any volunteers? :D
Ian2day
12-07-2008, 07:57 AM
She also got a lot of media attention:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by jric http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=415875#post415875)
Miss Great Britain got more votes for fucks sake,
Miss Great fucking Britain
She also got a lot of media attention:(
Miss Great Britain? she wasn't that nice
Miss Great Britain? she wasn't that nice
How long do you think it will take her to manage that?
largejack
12-07-2008, 08:24 AM
It is quite clear that people now aren't going to wake up in time. When they do finally wake up means to be seen, probably when the football and East Enders disappears from the TV, but unfortunately it is clear that it ain't going to be on time, which means sadly that in order to wake up, we will all need to suffer horribly. Even now more and more amendments are being broken down to protect the people pulling the strings behind the president. When will it all end!:mad:
Why doesn't consciousness intervene or something???
red_ram
12-07-2008, 09:24 AM
The awakening will come, and it will come just in time.
The next event will be bullshit of such magnitude that even the most deeply 'asleep' people will start to question things.
What is needed is for the media to make one huge mistake so that it becomes so ridiculed that the majority will never trust it again. I thought the ludicrous invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan would have been enough.
What would probably help as much as anything is us placing more and more slogans in the public arena that get the people to do their own research rather than telling them...raise doubts in their mind about the status quo.
What I suspect is needed, is to make everyone realise how many there are of us versus how many there are of them. I don't think anyone would like those numbers.
red_ram
12-07-2008, 09:32 AM
It is becoming increasingly clear to me that DI may not be the person to lead the next stage of the fightback. It pains me to say that. Sadly he has too much baggage of ridicule - not just from TPTB but from ordinary sheeple. Although it was a long time ago, the 'Son of God' thing -which caused a lot of offence - still sticks to him like a limpet. The 'Queen is a Bloodthirsty Lizard' thing caused many to turn off completely.
Well, who is? Alex Jones, a (no offence intended) hectoring Texan who is urging us all to build underground bunkers and stock up for the coming war (which, let's face it, is pretty wild and yet David hasn't even suggested that)? I have seen some of his rants and while I think he is great for the cause, as a newbie to all this I would be turned off by his bellowing.
Yes, David might have some baggage but so does everyone and it didn't put me off. Besides, when was the last time he even mentioned reptilian entities in a publiv speech? Every speech I've seen, he talks about governments manipulating people, which is of interest to everyone, or it should. I can think of no better person at this time to present his information because he makes very complex subjects easy to understand and is an outstanding speaker.
marndin
12-07-2008, 11:18 AM
We need more projects like this one... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uSBYdRRuLxI It scared the shit out of them before the original was BANNED. It was then immediately re-uploaded 18 times!!
Humour and a serious message works a treat!
largejack
12-07-2008, 12:26 PM
If that enormous Google camera on top of that black car doesn't wake people up, nothing will!:eek:
There must come a time when peoples' sense of disbelief must feel challenged
hirschfan
14-07-2008, 02:16 PM
If that enormous Google camera on top of that black car doesn't wake people up, nothing will!:eek:
There must come a time when peoples' sense of disbelief must feel challenged
I was innocently sufing for all things NWO the other day and saw this black car with a huge thing on top of it , of course I was a little taken aback at first and thought shite they've got me I was even looking for my cricket bat for a moment , as it went past I saw the google stckers but still didn't understand, then I saw the front page of the Daily Nazi (sorry... Mail) which explained that google were now photographing streets, welll I'm looking forward to seeing me hanging out of my window.
Guess we're off topic now eh?
beldazar
14-07-2008, 03:12 PM
If everyone moons them when they come round, their plans will be scuppered, there will be too many complaints :D
hirschfan
14-07-2008, 04:39 PM
If everyone moons them when they come round, their plans will be scuppered, there will be too many complaints :D
Wish I'd thought of that.
brenbren
14-07-2008, 06:31 PM
I was innocently sufing for all things NWO the other day and saw this black car with a huge thing on top of it , of course I was a little taken aback at first and thought shite they've got me I was even looking for my cricket bat for a moment , as it went past I saw the google stckers but still didn't understand, then I saw the front page of the Daily Nazi (sorry... Mail) which explained that google were now photographing streets, welll I'm looking forward to seeing me hanging out of my window.
Guess we're off topic now eh?
OMFG! i saw one the other day. i was like; shiiit, it's cameras, why in this part of the world? surveillance?
i 2 finger saluted it when it turned the corner. i too am looking forward to seeing myself.
mr_pixie
14-07-2008, 07:15 PM
Yeah, I agree with some of the comments here, The best part for me is that Ickie got in the top ten of google video, he's been there for nearly a week now with two videos, all important info and it has and will have a powerfull afect on people! So the info's out there, there can be no excusses when the shite hits the fan and the systerm comes down. :eek:
brenbren
14-07-2008, 10:05 PM
this may be offtopic, but when will the "shit" hit the fan. from what i see, not on the internet, the topic is rarely discussed, but it is discussed on the internet.
waking people up about this may be a slow process but it seems that the neo-cons are speeding up (Icke states that the totalitarian tiptoe has now become a sprint), which seems true because of the FISA act, Lisbon treaty and a possible war against Iran.
will this be too much for people? or will it be the catalyst needed to spark a worldwide movement from everyone? just like 9/11 united america, and to an extent; the western world.
so anyway, like others have said, it IS a shame Icke didn't win but he didnt expect to, but it's greater shame that mock participants got joke votes whereas DI did not.
yet, he has spread the word, and i'd like to see that top 10 google video list!
lindsaysketch
15-07-2008, 11:07 AM
David didn't want any votes. Those 110 people should have spent their time communicating information instead of wasting their time voting.
And all the others on here saying that voting is a waste of time, well we all know democracy's a scam but it would have been great to see Icke get a large number of votes as the "news"papers would have had to have printed those results, which would have lent a great deal of weight to his campaign. It would have been nice to see him in the top 5. Might have even made the lizard bashers question whether there is more to David Icke than meets the eye. Besides it doesn't take much "time" to cast a vote. These results are pretty disappointing to me :(
Exercising our right to vote may seem futile and may not change anything long term but it can slow things down. Voting is a right that we are still fortunate enough to have (not for much longer) even if it is illusory. TPTB are known to "test the water" before totalitarian tip-toeing a few more steps. It is only in the safe knowledge the Joe ignorant public is largely on their side that they are able to advance their agenda at a more and more rapid pace. testing the water, after all, is probably a large part of this whole David Davis agenda...
mr_pixie
15-07-2008, 02:59 PM
yet, he has spread the word, and i'd like to see that top 10 google video list!
I'm not sure if this is the top ten? But Ickie has two in the most viewed section. ;)
jeffvickers
16-07-2008, 04:17 AM
The BNP poll well in elections, but are constantly mocked by the media & press. I can't believe the NF polled so well.
john white
16-07-2008, 08:22 AM
I think I expected him to get a little more of the vote, however I watched the video of the presentation he gave at his public meeting and I don't think I've ever seen him express himself so articulately. The audiences response captured on the tape was heartening enough for me to consider this excercise worthwhile. It is also heartening to look at the artcle the Times wrote about him recently:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4226273.ece
The article is predictably a load of ill-informed, narrow minded sensationalist bollocks but read the comments below it. out of 28 comments only two are derisery of Icke and the rest are positive about him or what he's talking about. In terms of the attitude of the people I'll take that over the Haltemprice and Howden election result.
Those comments are inspirational!
I sincerely urge people to look at Davids Big Brother presentation on Google Video.This gets to the real issues concerning the debate about the surveillance society we are living in. Research the concept of 'Controlled opposition' . Don't make a snap judgement on David based on 20 years ago.
Terry, Burton, Staffs
Look at david's predictions for this 'movie world'.....what's next - oh yes, war with Iran, now previewing on every Meida station in the UK! Global warming? Even though NSAS confirm that the sun sport activity it now DEAD, and when's the peak.....oh yes 2012 - calm before the...............
edi, london,
David Icke's work is real journalism and should be applauded. I encourage everyone to watch his Big Brother, Big Picture presentation on Google Video.
Nick, Crowborough, England
David Icke is quite obviously mentally unstable, it seems unfair to let him humiliate himself like this.
Reptiles, really?
Dan, London,
Everything he has to say I totally agree with in his recent video in Hull on google video. At the end it made me stand up in front if my computer and clap whilst having a lump in my throat.An accolade no other politician can attest to.
James Corby, Exeter, UK
Checking on Google VideoI discover that David Icke's three hour public meeting is the MOST VIEWED video in the UK today (9th July) - I also note that at the time of writing its the 8th most popular in the WORLD!! YES THE WORLD!
Simon Mulley, Bletchley, United Kingdom
positivly refreshed by the comments. whatever david`s views on e.t`s , one thing is for sure our gov. does not serve us but others, the sooner people wake up to the possibility, do their homework and realise this is fact the sooner we can begin to sort this mess out.
fico, richmond, england
If David Davis has nothing to fear from David Icke ,why wont he not agree to a debate with him, or allow him into his public meetings? what is he afraid of being told the whole truth?
arthur, Frome, United Kingdom
well the cover up/mocking journalists can clearly see which side of this debate public opinion is on now cant they. good comments people, were really starting to see the complicitness of a media who it seems would be happy to see us all living in a true prison state.
RR, wgc, eng
And even Box Car Wilily? It's always those little stabs that indicate they type of article your supposed to wright. Wink, wink , nudge, nudge. It would be nice to pave over the draconian monarchy and put Mr. Icke in it's place. England take your country back!
Aril L, Tampa, USA
No to EU,
No to immigration,
No to ID cards,
No to 'New Labour' and it's hidden agendas.
Yes to REFERENDUM on ALL Major issues.
Nigel Farage for Prime Minister, no one else can be trusted.
Clive Burghard , LANCING, ENGLAND
Hopefully David will enlighten a few more voters as to what is really going on, any fool can see that the Government do not represent the electors in any shape or form, if they did there would be a REFERENDUM!
Clive Burghard, LANCING, ENGLAND
I find it interesting that not a single comment here denounces David Icke. I totally agree with many of his views. I struggle with his reptilian beliefs, but you can't fault a man who has successfully predicted 9-11 and the war of terror and said these were shams - and he's absolutely right!
Ciaran Gallagher, Derry, N.Ireland
Please ignore the tired attempts to discredit Icke. He has changed enormously over the last 20 years, and many who criticised him then, are now agreeing with much of what he has said since.
Don't take the word of establishment journalism, take a look at his work, and judge with your own mind
Seb, Birmingham, UK
I heard David I speak in Oz more than a decade ago - he made sense then and he makes even more tragic sense now. Goodonya, David.
Erina Mansfield, Adelaide, Australia
Bit by bit, everything that David Icke has talked about has become true over the years. He is a true hero and more and more people are becoming aware of this.
Paul, London, U.K
After all the laughing and name calling was finished, I cleared my head and began to research things for myself. My life has changed in very positive ways.
Please research David Icke's work and the work of many, many others. You deserve better than this!
Greg Smithfield, Boston, United States
I think it is pretty obvious to all who still have a modicum of brain wave activity that nothing has changed for a very long time. We still have wars, corruption, ignorance and so on. I wonder how many of those that critisise David Icke have actually bothered to read even one of his books.
Nic, London, England.
Well done David Icke, in a truly free society, your amazing and articulae presentation would be reported as it was; However, gutless journalists continue to refuse to address REAL facts and issues affecting not only US but their own families... You couldn't make it up!!!!!
Martin Noakes, Crawley, U.K
David Icke gets my vote
Mr Wright, City of london, England
I'm not British but if I were, David Icke would definitely get my vote. The man is a hero! David Icke for president, I say!
Caroline , Johannesburg, South Africa
Hes right about the reptiles just look at the Labour front bench.
Cromwell, Leeds, England
david icke gets my vote a true leader lets be honest arn't we all fed up with usual weak politicians my advice get an education read one of mr ick's books
peter, leicester, england
David Icke strives to convey to the people truths ,you gotta admire his relentless drive to share the knowledge and information that he has gathered from so many people all around the world.
Julie Croley, Dorchester,
David Davis, didn't he used to be a politician?
Aden Brill, Hereford, UK
Yay, David! Finally, someone's going to help make a stand for freedom from corruption.
Wendy, Alberta, Canada
a lot of people mock David Icke, he actually has some profound observations on the truth behind the Orwellian society that is being maufactured before our very eyes. He actually predicted the facts behind 9/11/ Problem reaction Solution is how the NWO game of chess is being played out
patrick, The Hague, netherlands
God bless David Icke. The only political candidate in the country to tell the truth about Parliament and the Queen. Whatever you think of his ideas, the guys got a level of commitment and integrity that so refreshing.
Cassandra, Yeovil, Somerset
But Mr Icke is correct, the world *is* ruled by a race of shape-shifting reptilian humanoids, one of which had a mantra of 'there will be no more boom and bust'.
Paul, Coventry,
Be happy that you have actual choices in candidates that can all be heard. Here in the States the MSM censors at least 60% of the total number of candidates. There is more to the election than Obama.
Tom, Kansas City, US
Do we only have Mr Icke's word for it that he too is not from the same race of shape-shifting reptilian humanoids!.?
Chris, Ashford, Middx, England