Nibiru/Planet X cover up? or false

[linredfern]

Forgive me if this topic has been covered before but here goes......

I had read a while back about Nibiru's expected passing in 2012 but rather dismissed it, not lightly, I looked for scientific explanations etc. on finding nothing concrete I just put it to the back of my mind.

However today whilst browing the net I came across this video which claims that there have been videos of nibiru taken by the SPT crew from the new telescope at the South Pole.(May 2008) It is suggested that videos have been removed from utube and been replaced by others by disinformers.

Please watch and post your opinions Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIDlqR1jnKA&feature=related

[2013]

Interesting video thanks , particularly liked the running time ;)
The planet X theory of change for 2012 seems a feasible one in that it would be something happening that we cant control or governments couldn't alter , if that where the case .It would certainly have an impact on the planet and society if it came close enough to change our weather patterns or orbit .Time will tell :D

[largejack]

Well David Icke mentions a polar shift in 2012 although I don't think he directly mentions Nibiru, but certainly this is a possible reason for a polar shift.

[brenbren]

well, i think the 2012 thing is a little strange, what with the videos stating alien presence in ancient sumeria/egypt.

did the mayans not say a new age would start soon? or was that 2150-2200?

and what about the ending of a zodiac age?

esoteric agenda http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030443037963555139

[legendary]

to me the hype about 2012 is the same as the hype about 2000 and the hype about nibiru earlier in like 2004 or 2006. I mean to me the fact that nibiru was predicted to arrive a few years ago, and the believers have latched onto 2012 coz of the end of the mayan great cycle would suggest a desparation to prove themselves correct or merely another threat of a global catastrophy designed to keep the masses in check. Although i'm no expert on the subect many of the counter arguments by people who i would hope are far more well informed than me state that the end of the great cycle implied a great celebration and the beginning of a new one as opposed to the apocalypse

[sireertsch]

thanks for bringing this topic up - I'm still not sure what to think about nibiru.
but who knows what will really happen? it's hard to spot the truth in those huge loads of disinfo and not well researched facts you find on the net...

[abaddon]

be it close enough (or any far reaching outer solar planet) to affect us is anyones guess.

Fact there are other planets affecting orbits of known monitored planets in the system (hence the search for such a planet, resulting in Pluto's discovery).

Fact there has been other 'rocks' beyond Pluto with highly elliptical orbits (Enris -> Varuna), and fact something looks to be inbound and has been for a while. Supposedly monitored.

fact- recent sun activity very odd, and the heating of all (supposedly) planets within the system (Mars, here etc) not just global warming of a 'pollution' nature. Others have spouted about 'galactal allignments' etc.

Whether 'Nibiru' is a direct threat or not, there are obviously are higher connection of these events than just "Doomsday scenario#1" and/or "Irrelevant hurtling rock that won't affect us":)

Those of times past knew alot better the movements of the heavens, and I suppose they knew of such a coming- how important it is remains to be seen, but if anything should give us a greater understanding of the systems' movements and gravitational interactions :)

[truthseeker1980]

to me the hype about 2012 is the same as the hype about 2000 and the hype about nibiru earlier in like 2004 or 2006. I mean to me the fact that nibiru was predicted to arrive a few years ago, and the believers have latched onto 2012 coz of the end of the mayan great cycle would suggest a desparation to prove themselves correct or merely another threat of a global catastrophy designed to keep the masses in check. Although i'm no expert on the subect many of the counter arguments by people who i would hope are far more well informed than me state that the end of the great cycle implied a great celebration and the beginning of a new one as opposed to the apocalypse

This is the thing i have not read anywhere or ever thought that 2012 will be an apocalypse, is this not the dis-info that's been put out there? But if i say anything about it to the sheeple they all answer isnt that when the world is supposed to end?

I understand what you are saying with the hype about 2012, but again i go on gut instinct or following of the heart, you should too, i never ever believed the world would end in 2000, I believed the hype about the millenium bug but that's it. But with the 2012 thing i get a gut feeling that something is going to happen, the amount i have read on it and the evidence with regards to the Mayan sun calender all also help with this conclusion, there was never that much information about the world ending 2000.

I am not very informed about the planet X thing never been drawn to any of the stories, but if video's disappear or sites get shut down then obviously they are trying to hide something.

[sireertsch]

phew, I definitely need to invest more time into nibiru-research...
everything somehow seems so logical (whilst reading) but my mind is still struggling with realising the consequences and the impact on my life (assuming that it's 100% true) - the changes it would bring upon us seem so overwhelming... :eek:


Thanks to the video in the first post I came across a few videos

http://www.planetxforecast.com/videos/survivng/index.shtml#1

Somewhere in part 3 or 4 this guys seriously talks about our government(s) doing the best they can to find out as much about nibiru as they can, next they will inform us when the time has come and will choose people who will follow them to secure underground bases.
he states that they should be grateful for being chosen and accept it (and of course leave loved ones behind). the rest of us will be struggling for survival in the wilderness.
he also talks about martial law and people causing riots and some more stuff.
it sounds so NWO-style, especially the stuff where he talks about people causing trouble and the military even acting with brutal force in response sounds like military is ready for those who oppose martial law, hijacking of "chosen" ones (doctors, scientists, ...) and the like!
weird :confused:

[legendary]

phew, I definitely need to invest more time into nibiru-research...
everything somehow seems so logical (whilst reading) but my mind is still struggling with realising the consequences and the impact on my life (assuming that it's 100% true) - the changes it would bring upon us seem so overwhelming... :eek:


Thanks to the video in the first post I came across a few videos

http://www.planetxforecast.com/videos/survivng/index.shtml#1

Somewhere in part 3 or 4 this guys seriously talks about our government(s) doing the best they can to find out as much about nibiru as they can, next they will inform us when the time has come and will choose people who will follow them to secure underground bases.
he states that they should be grateful for being chosen and accept it (and of course leave loved ones behind). the rest of us will be struggling for survival in the wilderness.
he also talks about martial law and people causing riots and some more stuff.
it sounds so NWO-style, especially the stuff where he talks about people causing trouble and the military even acting with brutal force in response sounds like military is ready for those who oppose martial law, hijacking of "chosen" ones (doctors, scientists, ...) and the like!
weird :confused:

to be honest you could watch nibiru videos till 2012 and you'll still believe 100% it will happen btu try watch some of the videos debunking what the people say. you'll actually find out alot of what they tell you is false or has been corrected with more modern theories and alot of the images of nibiru are just done with programmes like paint (yes i actually saw a video where someone reproduced a "photo" of nibiru in paint in about 4 easy steps looked exactly the same)

also equally important i found out nibiru was already predicted to have arrived a few years ago but it didn't so now they moved the date to 2012 because it fits in with the end of the mayan long calendar and the predictions of nastradamus (sort of)

also you should note they say nibiru has an eliptical orbit around the sun which i later found out to actually be impossible as when it reached the closest point to the sun it would be drawn into a more regular orbit

it comes every 3000 years roughly (the Mayans were not around at the time it apparently last visited and there is no record of global catastrophes occuring every 3000 years.

if nibiru is that deadly how did the dinosaurs survive about 50000 encounters with it or more

[disorder2k8]

I'd keep an eye on Marshall Masters and take anything he says with a pinch of salt;

I was a contributor to his forum (had my own section) and him and I fell out over his attitude to new 'arrivals' that is people who have woken up to more complex things in the world and need guidance and pointers.

His stance over certain matters, which I likened to a mad scientist working on wacky inventions and telling everyone to bugger off when they didnt work, is mainly from too much paranoia. I think HE is the disinfo agent.
Anyway, After his 3rd occurance of calling someone random a disinfo agent and telling them to F-off basically, I'd had enough and had a go at him.

In typical 'guilty before innocent' style, He litereally calls everyone a disinfo agent outright if they a) dont agree with him b) try and approach him with a proven hoax video or website by mistake. Even including me and a new arrival I tried to defend, he even moaned about Bill & Kerry over at project camelot being disinfo agents too before suddenly turning around and interviewing them on his radio show and sucking up to them. He's also sneaky and manipulative (deleted my post outing him as a bit of a cantankerous old fool).

You have been warned. :rolleyes:

[legendary]

Those of times past knew alot better the movements of the heavens, and I suppose they knew of such a coming- how important it is remains to be seen, but if anything should give us a greater understanding of the systems' movements and gravitational interactions :)

If that were true you would have nothing to fear about 2012 because the end of the great cycle was meant to be a time of celebration. there was no mention of it being the end of the world, it just meant they had reached the end and a new one began.....

[brenbren]

you shouldn't fear anything. be concerned and perhaps protect yourself, but dont kill yourself over it.

[magicmerlin]

A must watch video posted on this site's news links, all about Nibiru & the Anuaki and the reality of human existence - i.e. a slave race. For several years I have followed this concept and it just seems to 'ring true'. Humanity could be geneticlly engineered slaves originally, and now one big experiment.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2669013599514568012&q=source:004506822954991747022&hl=en

Just imagine if (as i suspect it might be) this is all true - the ''god's'' created a race (humans) via genetic manipulation, and we now thinks we're the 'masters of the universe', when in fact they are! Just imagine what we as humans would think if we gave some 'animals' part of our dna and brain power, and created a creature with the capacity for culture, engineering, art and higher consciousness - wouldn't we somehow consider ourselves to be playing god and desire control over these beings? I have a feeling that these aliens aren't intrinsically evil, but they don't like the iidea that these 'biological robots' could ever challenge them. If 2012 is meant to open us up to a higher consciousness, then could it be that the part of the brain which has been shut down by the anuaki, is about to open? On the other hand, maybe they want to come back and want us to know the truth and even want to help us - but fear human hostility. In some respects, if these beings did turn us from apes into humans - should we thank them and treat them 'as gods' - did they gives us a higher quality of life, or cast us into doom. Very interesting topic and in my opinion extremely important.

[umbrex]

when i saw the new pics and vids from the telescope i thought: aha, so that's why they build underground bases for 500+ billion$ a year all over the world.