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planetsadhana
09-07-2008, 09:25 PM
johann hari wrote an article "what sort of Freedom do you believe in" in todays Independant newspaper re haltemprice and howden bi-election.

DIs mention in article was ".....sure to get to it , you have to jostle past the silicone implants of the Miss Great Britain party, and David Ickes sevenfoot lizards"

I have subsequently e-mailed her accusing her of lazy journalism and dareing her to interview/do a piece on david Icke , she has replied and her lack of research is blatent however she may take the bait , her email address is j.hari@independent.co.uk so if anybody wants to give their opinion , the more the merrier

diamond dogs
09-07-2008, 09:31 PM
johann hari wrote an article "what sort of Freedom do you believe in" in todays Independant newspaper re haltemprice and howden bi-election.

DIs mention in article was
I have subsequently e-mailed her accusing her of lazy journalism and dareing her to interview/do a piece on david Icke , she has replied and her lack of research is blatent however she may take the bait , her email address is j.hari@independent.co.uk so if anybody wants to give their opinion , the more the merrier

Similar story on Jeremy Vine R2 show today virtually ignored and misrepresented....

I thought I'd use a page out of DI book sent her this..

....sure to get to it , you have to jostle past the silicone implants of the Miss Great Britain party, and David Ickes sevenfoot lizards"

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -Albert Einstein. ...

zarah
09-07-2008, 09:35 PM
I'll email...but Im sure 'she's' actually a 'he' ;)

planetsadhana
09-07-2008, 09:45 PM
Im not sure...is it johanne like jo-anne , or is johann a blokes name:confused:
no wonder he/she sent me an arsey reply:D

zarah
09-07-2008, 09:49 PM
I think it's pronounced Yohan..some chubby, feminine looking bloke who's obviously much to clever for the likes of you ;)


what did his reply say?

diamond dogs
09-07-2008, 09:55 PM
I think it's pronounced Yohan..some chubby, feminine looking bloke who's obviously much to clever for the likes of you ;)


what did his reply say?

Quote 'The fervently anti-racist, pro-feminist Johann Hari, a fat homosexual who writes for The Independent'

http://www.heretical.com/ofarrell/hari1.jpg

planetsadhana
09-07-2008, 10:07 PM
basicly by saying that no credability could be given and therefore that no matter what else David had to say it would not be taken seriously.

It is very frustrating , her (ooops).. his article is written with a typical journalistic ego stroking arrogance , but lacks a major flaw , he has done no investigation into the article that he has written , concentating more possibly on impressing his editor with his oh so clever style and maintaining the widespread status quo.

Im afraid its going to be pretty much the same accross the mainstream media...what did we expect?

soulja
09-07-2008, 11:35 PM
the ''independent''

now that is funny :D

and deceiving..

soulja
09-07-2008, 11:37 PM
basicly by saying that no credability could be given and therefore that no matter what else David had to say it would not be taken seriously.

It is very frustrating , her (ooops).. his article is written with a typical journalistic ego stroking arrogance , but lacks a major flaw , he has done no investigation into the article that he has written , concentating more possibly on impressing his editor with his oh so clever style and maintaining the widespread status quo.

Im afraid its going to be pretty much the same accross the mainstream media...what did we expect?

true.. thing is even if he would research objectively and write a balanced view on icke it would never make it to the print.

clozaril
09-07-2008, 11:46 PM
Quote 'The fervently anti-racist, pro-feminist Johann Hari, a fat homosexual who writes for The Independent'

http://www.heretical.com/ofarrell/hari1.jpg



is that the twat who is sometimes on newsnight review?

diamond dogs
09-07-2008, 11:56 PM
is that the twat who is sometimes on newsnight review?

Yes the very same..... BBC stooge as well...part of the agenda

You can watch me on 'Newsnight Review' discussing Clint Eastwood, the Chapman Brothers, the RSC's Merry Wives of Windsor, and the This Life reunion... ..with Kirsty Wark and Germaine Greer johanhari.com

zarah
10-07-2008, 12:06 AM
Yes the very same..... BBC stooge as well...part of the agenda

You can watch me on 'Newsnight Review' discussing Clint Eastwood, the Chapman Brothers, the RSC's Merry Wives of Windsor, and the This Life reunion... ..with Kirsty Wark and Germaine Greer johanhari.com

That Germaine Greer's on there a lot too..I dont watch it much but it seems like every time I switch it on there she is yakking like a know it all about something.

clozaril
10-07-2008, 12:19 AM
Yes the very same..... BBC stooge as well...part of the agenda

You can watch me on 'Newsnight Review' discussing Clint Eastwood, the Chapman Brothers, the RSC's Merry Wives of Windsor, and the This Life reunion... ..with Kirsty Wark and Germaine Greer johanhari.com


he was on 'dateline' or some other 1/2 hour show on bbc news at the weekend, don't you just want to smack his face in

clozaril
10-07-2008, 12:36 AM
god he really riles me up he was on a serious discussion with some respectable foreign reporters. he sat there spoutng rubbish that he could of read 5 mins before coming on camera, trying to bluff his way through wheras the others had a real grasp of the situation they were discussing.

what the hell are the bbc doing with this guy. it's as if they put him on as the young voice of 'liberal' intellectual england. aarrgghh!!!

multiversal
10-07-2008, 12:50 AM
I would hazard a guess that DI has a lot more readers than the twat who wrote that ignorant article therefore if mr journalist suggests DI isn't worth listening too then what does that have to say about Mr journalist?!

epsom
10-07-2008, 01:14 AM
I have just sent this to the fat twat:

Just seen your your remark re-David Icke.



You are the type that epitomise the word 'yellow journalist', and I use the word journalist with no respect.



No research, an opinion which, in reality, let's be honest, has more to do with you toeing the line and keeping your job.



There can be no one who, after hearing what David Icke (among ,many others) has to say, can seriously disregard the OVERWHELMING, in your face evidence....no, make that proof, that we have all been taken for a ride for a very long time. Including you. Your children will not be best pleased when they ask you "what did you do to try to stop the fascist state,daddy?"



The last time I looked at the TIMESONLINE, there were 21 readers comments re- the David Icke press conference. ALL but one were very much supporting David Icke. I have seen this type of percentage in favour of David Icke wherever I look.

If that is representative of the country as a whole, then you and the rest of the media are looking very foolish.



You, along with politicians, are becoming the most hated and despised members of the community in the country. Not just this country, but people are beginning to wake up all over the country

We'll see if I get a reply!.

epsom
10-07-2008, 01:15 AM
Last word in that should read ' world'.

epsom
10-07-2008, 01:16 AM
Just seen your your remark re-David Icke.



You are the type that epitomise the word 'yellow journalist', and I use the word journalist with no respect.



No research, an opinion which, in reality, let's be honest, has more to do with you toeing the line and keeping your job.



There can be no one who, after hearing what David Icke (among ,many others) has to say, can seriously disregard the OVERWHELMING, in your face evidence....no, make that proof, that we have all been taken for a ride for a very long time. Including you. Your children will not be best pleased when they ask you "what did you do to try to stop the fascist state,daddy?"



The last time I looked at the TIMESONLINE, there were 21 readers comments re- the David Icke press conference. ALL but one were very much supporting David Icke. I have seen this type of percentage in favour of David Icke wherever I look.

If that is representative of the country as a whole, then you and the rest of the media are looking very foolish.



You, along with politicians, are becoming the most hated and despised members of the community in the country. Not just this country, but people are beginning to wake up all over the world.

*Corrected text

clozaril
10-07-2008, 01:24 AM
:D:D

drhemp
10-07-2008, 01:55 AM
The Independent has something in common with every other UK broadsheet and tabloid available in UK newsagents in that it's a dreadful shitty newspaper that publishes lies on a regular basis to further the goals, aims and objectives of the Global Elite and the New World Order.

It always amazes me when people are surprised when bad journalism appears in The Independent. I would never buy that paper or any of them, a brief glance on the Internet will give me an idea of what's in them, and on the rare occasion there is a good article in a UK paper, I can read it online.

Just because the Independent purports to be a liberal paper of the left, it doesn't mean that it is. It's a pile of shite, that's what it is!

http://www.canedintotnes.co.uk/images/twr/queen_lizerd.jpg

epsom
10-07-2008, 02:12 AM
Fully agree Drhemp.

I haven't read a newspaper for a very long time, and quite honestly, have not read the article by the fat twat referred to in the Independent...but I don't feel I have to read it as they are all full of the same shit.

Neither do I have a TV anymore. I get my news from what I consider more reliable sources.

May I say that since not reading 'news'papers and not watching TV, I have felt the most emormous inner freedom.:)

largejack
10-07-2008, 03:14 AM
It is time the media woke up and realised they should be on OUR side

tribe_of_david
10-07-2008, 04:31 AM
Ive just emailed the Journalist from the Idependant. I kept it short, here is what i put.
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Hello

I will keep this email short. Basically as a Journalist are you allowed to write what you want for your paper or are you told by your editor what to write ??

Regarding the up-coming by election for David Davis you dismiss David Icke and his 7 foot Lizards. have you ever taken the time to look at david Icke's work or listened to what he has to say. I know you must be a busy person but all i would say is take a short time to listen to David Icke's work. Im sure your opinion on him would change.

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I kept the email civil, I dont know whether i will get a reply.

planetsadhana
10-07-2008, 10:24 AM
I got a reply from Independant this morning asking if I believe the queen is a seven foot lizard..

Im going to reply as David said re his oxford speach with a dumbed down version so that this journalist can grasp things from his limited five sense reality I am also going to pass on the news that his recent speach is the most watched in the uk and the 8th in the world as we speak:)

slowly, slowly information is getting out there

zarah
10-07-2008, 10:28 AM
I got a reply from Independant this morning asking if I believe the queen is a seven foot lizard..

Im going to reply as David said re his oxford speach with a dumbed down version so that this journalist can grasp things from his limited five sense reality I am also going to pass on the news that his recent speach is the most watched in the uk and the 8th in the world as we speak:)

slowly, slowly information is getting out there

That Johan person? Isn't that ever so slightly taking the piss though?

zarah
10-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Ive jumped on the 'email Johan' badwagon and just penned ...well typed this:

Dear Mr. Haari



Hope this email finds you well.



After reading your recent article on the upcoming bi-election featuring David Davis, I wondered why you had completely dismissed David Icke's candidacy in such an off hand way. Are you familiar with Mr. Icke's work at all? David Icke has made it quite clear that he is not fighting this bi-election to win the seat, but rather to publicise the way in which the government is slowly eroding our civil liberties. As a journalist for a paper which calls itself 'The Independent' I would have thought the very least owed to your readers was a modicum of research into Mr. Icke's message. I would hope that this obvious failure to examinaton even the most basic of facts isn't a pattern when you regularly espouse opinion on everything and anything at the BBC, for which I imagine you are paid hansomely.



I am more than a little disappointed by your lack of both insight and display of journalistic abilities on this matter, Mr Haari, and would ask that you at least read some of Mr. Icke's work before any further negative comments are made.



Kind regards,

planetsadhana
10-07-2008, 10:47 AM
sounds good , did you mean I was taking the piss with my reply or he was taking the piss with his reply about the queen?

epsom
10-07-2008, 02:21 PM
Funny, I haven't got a reply yet!

Never give that type of 'journalist', for want of a better word, ammunition with which to provoke a reply....namely, lizards.

The lizard issue is very important, but the word lizard is misleading. Reptilian 'like' is also used and is a better description of these entities.

If you look at UFO history and many of the abduction cases, inc. Betty and Barney Hill, the star system Zeta Reticuli is often mentioned as a home of such creatures. Again, David Icke's assertion that they are operating just beyond our senses cannot be ignored. This would certainly go over the head of the fat twat from the Independent--who has no sense to go beyond!

There is much more to this though, all I can say to everyone who is a skeptic or whatever is RESEARCH the subject.

clozaril
10-07-2008, 02:30 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40610000/jpg/_40610027_daffyd_203.jpg

clozaril
10-07-2008, 02:38 PM
Ive jumped on the 'email Johan' badwagon and just penned ...well typed this:

. I would hope that this obvious failure to examinaton even the most basic of facts isn't a pattern when you regularly espouse opinion on everything and anything at the BBC,



yep thats what he does

diggers_1
10-07-2008, 02:41 PM
http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=1336

diggers_1
10-07-2008, 02:43 PM
would somebody contact this guy and tell him they are six foot lizards and not seven.

phaid
10-07-2008, 02:51 PM
'Independent' in this case would seem to mean independent of thought or independent of any research into your topic.

zarah
10-07-2008, 09:32 PM
sounds good , did you mean I was taking the piss with my reply or he was taking the piss with his reply about the queen?

No, I meant was he taking the piss with his queen comment.

planetsadhana
10-07-2008, 10:00 PM
yes he was taking the piss, he was only answering in short paragraphs and it all refered to giant lizards....the seed may have been planted in a small way though because a few people have emailed him, anything that may highlight Davids campaign is positive

bernardsmith
10-07-2008, 10:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxmlaur5UsA

Oh my god. He's the most annoying person I've ever come across...

planetsadhana
10-07-2008, 10:26 PM
He looks like Adrain Mole;)

bernardsmith
10-07-2008, 10:28 PM
Now this really takes the piss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KYNgliu7i8

Apparently, he's just won the 'Orwell Prize for Journalism'. :eek:

What a crazy, crazy world we live in...

onourwayto2012
10-07-2008, 10:49 PM
I'd like to roll a copy of the Guardian up very tight, and then hammer it down the throat of Hari
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Hari's the best columnist of his generation.

by about a fucking mile
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such, err, a ,umm, clever, umm err, bloke. err, you, umm, can, err, tell how err, clever, err, he is, urm, by the err , erm, he erm, talks.
in my view, at self-righteous little erm,er umm ....turd.
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So what? is that the best coment u have to make? he is one of the bigest brains in the country u asshole and that is the best u have to say?
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He is such a prick-faced-prick. Hilarious replies to above Youtube video..especially the last one (the prick one)

psych641
11-07-2008, 02:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxmlaur5UsA

Oh my god. He's the most annoying person I've ever come across...

the content/position hes delivering on that clip is very good though.