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bill23
07-07-2008, 11:14 PM
is there any for this lizard theory or is it david's hunch? also if its true why havent they killed or brainwashed mr icke?
bernardsmith
07-07-2008, 11:27 PM
is there any for this lizard theory or is it david's hunch? also if its true why havent they killed or brainwashed mr icke?
They didn't need to kill him, as they had managed to discredit and ridicule him to a large extent for many years, and even though the open-minded minority listened to him even back then, he largely went ignored.
Unfortunately for them, large numbers of people are listening to him now, and it's too late to kill him now. If they killed him now he would become a martyr, and there would be uproar, not to mention it would prove him right to large numbers of people. The conquences of killing him now would be far more detrimental to the powers that the consequences of not killing him - but instead desperately trying to clutch onto and maintain the deluded mainstream image of him as a 'nutter', which ultimately will crumble as well, when the unfolding of events proves him right yet again...
mcthompson2x
08-07-2008, 02:49 AM
They didn't need to kill him, as they had managed to discredit and ridicule him to a large extent for many years, and even though the open-minded minority listened to him even back then, he largely went ignored.
Unfortunately for them, large numbers of people are listening to him now, and it's too late to kill him now. If they killed him now he would become a martyr, and there would be uproar, not to mention it would prove him right to large numbers of people. The conquences of killing him now would be far more detrimental to the powers that the consequences of not killing him - but instead desperately trying to clutch onto and maintain the deluded mainstream image of him as a 'nutter', which ultimately will crumble as well, when the unfolding of events proves him right yet again...
My one big problem with the whole movement, although I'm pretty sure that nearly everything Icke talks about is going on to some degree, is that it's supposedly so easy for this government to replace someone with a clone or kill him with a heart attack. I mean, if David Icke died in a car accident tomorrow, would the world really take notice in the sense that they'd believe it was part of a Reptilian cover-up? I have trouble believing that most people would immediately wake up. The media wouldn't even cover it and when they did, everyone would immediately assume that they are being told the truth, or that it doesn't matter since it can't be proven anyway. There would be skeptics and debunkers everywhere pointing to the very true and honestly, very convincing fact that people die in car accidents everyday. I mean, whose to say this isn't just some crazy English guy that by luck of the draw died? I don't know how much it would really change anything. Whistleblowers have died throughout our history and people just let it go, assuming the government has only the best of intentions in mind.
empyblessing
08-07-2008, 03:39 AM
is there any for this lizard theory or is it david's hunch? also if its true why havent they killed or brainwashed mr icke?
Wtf is this stupid question "why haven't they killed him?" Are you a reptile? Do you think like a reptile? Do you know how a reptilian would think?
No, you don't. Because you can't think like one would potentially think. You can't think more than what it takes to get off your sofa and fetch a beer. If you could you might see there are alternatives to killing everything. Maybe. Just maybe. They're smarter than you.
There are answers to these questions but you have to find them out for yourself because I suspect you're just here to be a troll. You're asking a troll question anyway.
mcthompson2x
08-07-2008, 03:50 AM
Wtf is this stupid question "why haven't they killed him?" Are you a reptile? Do you think like a reptile? Do you know how a reptilian would think?
No, you don't. Because you can't think like one would potentially think. You can't think more than what it takes to get off your sofa and fetch a beer. If you could you might see there are alternatives to killing everything. Maybe. Just maybe. They're smarter than you.
There are answers to these questions but you have to find them out for yourself because I suspect you're just here to be a troll. You're asking a troll question anyway.
Your superior attitude is very negative and it potentially turns people off to the truth. New people have all kinds of legitimate questions that need to be asked in order for them to proceed on their quest for knowledge... The only thing you accomplish when you treat people like they are lesser than you is to put forth more negative energy into the universe, which only feeds into the larger Reptilian consciousness. I hope the person who posted the question doesn't think that everyone who believes in this stuff thinks the same way you do...
truthdog
08-07-2008, 11:52 PM
To answer your questions. The reptilians don't care much about us, we're just animals to them. If we weren't as advanced as we are now, they would have no problem showing themselves. For now, you'll have to settle with the majority of evidence in films, tv shows, and witness sightings, or stories.
krakhead
09-07-2008, 12:34 AM
Wtf is this stupid question "why haven't they killed him?" Are you a reptile? Do you think like a reptile? Do you know how a reptilian would think?
No, you don't. Because you can't think like one would potentially think. You can't think more than what it takes to get off your sofa and fetch a beer. If you could you might see there are alternatives to killing everything. Maybe. Just maybe. They're smarter than you.
There are answers to these questions but you have to find them out for yourself because I suspect you're just here to be a troll. You're asking a troll question anyway.
Have a cup of cocoa or something Empy! My Angry in the house! ;)
xxdinoxkarenxx
09-07-2008, 01:37 AM
wtf Is This Stupid Question
No Question Is A Stupid One!!!!!
humanswin
09-07-2008, 01:55 AM
The historical aspect of reptilians is the best evidence I feel.Look to the ancients....Why kill icke i say? The info got out to many and yet nothing happened.The game goes on wheter we know or not,whether Icke is dead or not...No need to kill him.It would just make more people look into this theory.
darketernal
09-07-2008, 02:45 AM
Why is Icke still alive?
1) Killing him would only add credibility to what he has to say. It is much easier to simply discredit him as a nuttcase and an anti-semite, to keep the majority of the people within the mainstream from taking him seriously.
2) He is a conscious being. Once someone is outside the mind control loop, they are more powerful, a bit troublesome to take out, and subject the killers to a kharmic backlash. Killing your livestock is one thing, killing another conscious being has potential negative effects.
3) Another unspoken defense that he has, which I'll keep to myself, but is obvious to anyone looking at his energy.
mcthompson2x
09-07-2008, 03:55 AM
You know, there's also something else I heard today that could explain why these various whistleblowers aren't dying left and right. I was listening to a guy on Coast to Coast who claimed to have been kidnapped at a very early age and trained to be a psychic spy/assassin in the UK. He claimed that he was taught how to remotely assassinate people by hurting their chakras, but if they were vibrating on a certain level and knew how to properly attune their chakras, they had a pure white light flowing through them and they were completely unkillable. This could be divine protection and it could be more than just a convenient excuse for why these people stay alive. I really do think that people can learn how to protect themselves by learning how to control their prana intake.
empyblessing
09-07-2008, 08:00 AM
Your superior attitude is very negative and it potentially turns people off to the truth. New people have all kinds of legitimate questions that need to be asked in order for them to proceed on their quest for knowledge... The only thing you accomplish when you treat people like they are lesser than you is to put forth more negative energy into the universe, which only feeds into the larger Reptilian consciousness. I hope the person who posted the question doesn't think that everyone who believes in this stuff thinks the same way you do...
I didn't know the positive thinking gestapo was going to come down on me for expressing myself. There is no energy that's feeding them from positive or negative or whatever else you want to label. More than likely this idea of positive thinking was formed by these reptilian entities if they exist. None of it's even remotely provable anyway.
Have a cup of cocoa or something Empy! My Angry in the house! ;)
I know dude. I'm a bit stressed out lately. I am aggressive and abrasive.
No Question Is A Stupid One!!!!!
Why haven't they killed so and so is a blatant troll question. They teach it at troll academy strictly for the purposes of trolling conspiracy message boards.
There are no stupid questions? Who has been inside your head? Please do me a favor and take all that garbage that was pumped into your brain by your grade school teacher and throw it away with the other useless material you learned in school.
Giving someone these answers won't teach them a thing. If they're curious then they should research for themselves. Read Children of Matrix by David Icke for some evidence on the existence of reptilians. Discovering it on one's own will be the only route to truly satisfy curiosity.
mcthompson2x
09-07-2008, 05:20 PM
You seem to think that everyone has to follow a certain particular pattern of behavior to arrive at the "correct conclusion" and for some reason, asking a question doesn't appear to be a part of that correct pattern. There is positive and negative energy and it's bluntly obvious, and when you attack someone for asking a harmless question, you discourage further education down that particular avenue of enlightenment. You really aren't helping anyone or anything by taking on such a smug attitude. Your ego prevents you from ascending, and what goes around comes around. Don't forget that karma is very real and it follows you everywhere you go - you should really treat others as you would like to be treated, in spite of how "advanced" your thinking may be.
As for not being able to prove that positive and negative energy exists, would you care to prove to me that Reptilians, Draconians, Pleiaren, Greys, or underground government bases exist? You can't, because this is something we have to go on believing in faith. I can't believe you just threw out that since you can't prove +/- energy, that there's no reason to even consider it.
bill23
11-07-2008, 08:15 PM
i think the correct way to behave must be to read a couple of books and then act like you are an oracle. if being a troll is asking for some facts then im happy to be a troll. i dont have that much time on my hands to read alot these days as i have a family and a business to run. just hoping someone would post me a link to something interesting to read that was all. sorry for being so stupid, id better get back into my cave.
disorder2k8
11-07-2008, 09:57 PM
Dont bother with emptyblessing, he's just like that. He will get down off his pedestal one day.
duckingdafta
11-07-2008, 09:59 PM
A stupid question is a question not asked.
IMO, It was my understanding that there is a lot of anger and frustration amongst the reptilians in which some feel they should just be out in the open like ancient times and those that believe they are better ruling from the 'shadows' .. on this thought it would be beneficial to both sides having people like David trying to get the information known of their past out into the public arena... I can't recall David ever saying the whole of the race where 'bad' just a few. (just like humans really!).
marpat
11-07-2008, 10:08 PM
Why is Icke still alive?
1) Killing him would only add credibility to what he has to say. It is much easier to simply discredit him as a nuttcase and an anti-semite, to keep the majority of the people within the mainstream from taking him seriously.
2) He is a conscious being. Once someone is outside the mind control loop, they are more powerful, a bit troublesome to take out, and subject the killers to a kharmic backlash. Killing your livestock is one thing, killing another conscious being has potential negative effects.
3) Another unspoken defense that he has, which I'll keep to myself, but is obvious to anyone looking at his energy.
If he was killed and it looked like an accident then how would that enhance what he says? only suspicious people would think otherwise but the average person would not start thinking that he was killed because he knew something. Look at what happened to David Kelly, and he did know something. What if they induce a heart attack in him, how would you know?
If these people are prepared to kill thousands just to manipulate events than I hardly think they would care about the repercussions of killing one man. Which then leads you onto, could he be one of them, keeping people busy looking in the wrong direction while all sorts of other stuff goes on. In order to have credibility he would have to be coming up with some goods but that could be managed to keep his cover.
I put these ideas just for debate not because it's personal belief.
bill23
11-07-2008, 10:49 PM
it was so blantant that David Kelly was murdered and he was in the public eye alot at that time. taking david icke out would be no big deal. most people think icke is a fruit cake anyhow and wouldnt careless. i used to read davids books years ago before he started the lizard stuff and i was really into what he wrote, but when the rep stuff started i losest interest, it was and still is too unbelievable for me.
mcthompson2x
11-07-2008, 11:05 PM
it was so blantant that David Kelly was murdered and he was in the public eye alot at that time. taking david icke out would be no big deal. most people think icke is a fruit cake anyhow and wouldnt careless. i used to read davids books years ago before he started the lizard stuff and i was really into what he wrote, but when the rep stuff started i losest interest, it was and still is too unbelievable for me.
Once I accepted that extraterrestrials most likely exist, it kind of opened up a whole new world to me. If there are highly advanced dominating extraterrestrial civilizations, it would make perfect sense for them to dominate a culture/planet entirely without suspicion by doing precisely the things they are doing. It wouldn't be in the best interest of any of these beings to reveal themselves at the present time. Knowing the bizarre way that the mainstream media and contemporary scientists with suspicious money trails attack and quickly dismiss any reports about anything even remotely out of the ordinary doesn't really make me believe that the idea of a conspiracy is that far out. And I think we should look at the large scale picture too: yes, aliens could probably just take over earth. But what if we have protectors, or people looking out for us? What if there are alliances throughout our part of the galaxy that fight for freedom? What if there are certain rules that must be played by? If I've learned anything it's that ruling out any possibility that has a good amount of credible evidence is just putting the blinders back on. Don't believe it just because someone puts it out there, but I really don't think there are people en masse who would make up explicitly thought out stories for media attention - most of them are considered crazy and are ashamed to come out with their stories... there is probably a lot that people are just too afraid to even talk about. You must follow your own quest for truth!
disorder2k8
12-07-2008, 08:54 AM
Yea, I agree that once you've opened one pandora box, there is another and another. Its why I mentioned stuff about mars being reactivated in another post, I think its going to be used as a staging post or something else.
it was so blantant that David Kelly was murdered and he was in the public eye alot at that time. taking david icke out would be no big deal. most people think icke is a fruit cake anyhow and wouldnt careless. i used to read davids books years ago before he started the lizard stuff and i was really into what he wrote, but when the rep stuff started i losest interest, it was and still is too unbelievable for me.
It is not as though David was the first to write about this stuff. I had read it all before I read any of David's books.
There are references throughout history and in every culture.
mcthompson2x
12-07-2008, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I really don't understand why everyone thinks this is just one random crazy guy who came up with some idea about Reptilians controlling the world. If anyone would look at ancient history and mythology with even a slightly different perspective, it's obvious that it's all right there out in the open. Mythology is just looked at symbolically - but it wasn't always written to be taken that way.
element
12-07-2008, 06:27 PM
Yeah, I really don't understand why everyone thinks this is just one random crazy guy who came up with some idea about Reptilians controlling the world. If anyone would look at ancient history and mythology with even a slightly different perspective, it's obvious that it's all right there out in the open. Mythology is just looked at symbolically - but it wasn't always written to be taken that way.
Knowing this, there would probably be even more eagle and lion humanoids out there!
Most of it, if not all is symbolically.
the seeker
12-07-2008, 07:01 PM
He has taken a big step with this political run and google video. Before he was easily discredited, now he is speaking very reasonably and persuasively. I hope he is being cautious with his personal safety.
BTW, if you have not watched the video, do so. It is excellent.
mcthompson2x
12-07-2008, 08:20 PM
Knowing this, there would probably be even more eagle and lion humanoids out there!
Most of it, if not all is symbolically.
You can believe what you wish.
magicmerlin
12-07-2008, 08:30 PM
Can't reptilians only kill if you are fearful - david doesn't have any fear, only love?
Incidentally, the only reason why 'most' people find the reptilian theory ridiculous is because of their egos - I mean, something 'superior' to humans, how humbling would that be.
bill23
12-07-2008, 10:46 PM
there is not more evidence for lizards then there is for pixies or fairies, nothing to do with ego. in cultures around the world there have been images of lots of diffferent animal deities. maybe this reptillian thing is disinformation that icke has fallen for to discredit him, and believe me it does.
tinmenace
12-07-2008, 10:50 PM
is there any for this lizard theory or is it david's hunch? also if its true why havent they killed or brainwashed mr icke?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3907/aefartingre7.gif http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_40.gif
bill23
12-07-2008, 11:01 PM
constructive..
tinmenace
12-07-2008, 11:07 PM
constructive..
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6962/thumbs20upoe4.gif
lennart
13-07-2008, 12:03 AM
constructive..
...just keep asking and searching! I will do the same and maybe some day we know...
I like mr icke and learned a lot from him wich doesn,t mean he is on my side! Who knows for who he is working....like mulder(x-files) said: trust no one!
And if david is really on my side i figure that he understands why i,m thinking this way:)
bill23
13-07-2008, 10:30 AM
this site sure does have alot of blind faith follwers.
element
13-07-2008, 10:39 AM
Although I believe there is a good possibility of Reptilians and other stuff, I think the ancient connection is pretty weak.
bill23
13-07-2008, 11:38 AM
to quote ra wilson "I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions". this should be the approach taken in life imo.
element
13-07-2008, 11:45 AM
People always believe in things and stuff, none excluded.
Interest - suspicion - believing - experiencing - knowing. Imo.
paradox
14-07-2008, 01:42 PM
Why is Icke still alive?
1) Killing him would only add credibility to what he has to say. It is much easier to simply discredit him as a nuttcase and an anti-semite, to keep the majority of the people within the mainstream from taking him seriously.
2) He is a conscious being. Once someone is outside the mind control loop, they are more powerful, a bit troublesome to take out, and subject the killers to a kharmic backlash. Killing your livestock is one thing, killing another conscious being has potential negative effects.
3) Another unspoken defense that he has, which I'll keep to myself, but is obvious to anyone looking at his energy.
I think like myself that why David hasnt been touched yet is becuse his conciousness is needed far into the future thus he cannot die yet if he did die he would wake up in the exact same possition but in another copy of this realm.
tadaaa!
ajaydean
14-07-2008, 03:25 PM
Your superior attitude is very negative and it potentially turns people off to the truth. New people have all kinds of legitimate questions that need to be asked in order for them to proceed on their quest for knowledge... The only thing you accomplish when you treat people like they are lesser than you is to put forth more negative energy into the universe, which only feeds into the larger Reptilian consciousness. I hope the person who posted the question doesn't think that everyone who believes in this stuff thinks the same way you do...
absolutely agree,theres no need for crazy dogma
noobcybot
14-07-2008, 06:50 PM
I personally believe in the reptilian angle because it is the only one that ties everything together. The whole conspiracy does not make any real sense until you start looking at 4th dimension, vibrational frequencies and astral projection, ets and so on.
Plus this stuff is not a new age invention, the amount of literature about this subject is massive, thats just the stuff that hasnt been destroyed or kept truly secret.
Dont you think it just makes sense? The theory ties almost everything together, from Fortean Mysteries to the most mundane everyday occourances.
So here is what I am saying, if the theory that Icke applies is not the whole truth as far as we can understand it in this incarnation, then what is?
Nobody can prove any religion or spiritual path or truth on earth is any more true than the conspiracy of everything.
Or how about an easier one?
Someone explain the significance of these symbols if indeed reptilians did not have something to do with the creation of the human race.
http://medicineworld.org/images/blogs/5-2007/medical-symbol-snake-15021.Jpeg
http://nextcustomer.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/800px-flag_of_the_red_cross1.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Soviet_flag_red_star.svg/300px-Soviet_flag_red_star.svg.png
http://www.militarystencils.com/images/SpecialtyDecals/Army/ArmyStar.jpg
mcthompson2x
15-07-2008, 04:38 AM
this site sure does have alot of blind faith follwers.
It's very arrogant of you to assume that most of the people on this site are "blind faith followers" who have no idea what they're talking about and just happened to latch onto one crazy guys' theory. Perhaps people's worldviews are shaped by their own particular experiences, some of which you may find too personally unacceptable to think of as "real" in spite of how very real they may have been. Do you think that everyone who believes in this theory is just some random idiot who has no mind to do independent research and cross-reference their experiences with the experiences of others?
legendary
15-07-2008, 01:16 PM
You seem to think that everyone has to follow a certain particular pattern of behavior to arrive at the "correct conclusion" and for some reason, asking a question doesn't appear to be a part of that correct pattern. There is positive and negative energy and it's bluntly obvious, and when you attack someone for asking a harmless question, you discourage further education down that particular avenue of enlightenment. You really aren't helping anyone or anything by taking on such a smug attitude. Your ego prevents you from ascending, and what goes around comes around. Don't forget that karma is very real and it follows you everywhere you go - you should really treat others as you would like to be treated, in spite of how "advanced" your thinking may be.
As for not being able to prove that positive and negative energy exists, would you care to prove to me that Reptilians, Draconians, Pleiaren, Greys, or underground government bases exist? You can't, because this is something we have to go on believing in faith. I can't believe you just threw out that since you can't prove +/- energy, that there's no reason to even consider it.
i thought scientists had proved that positive thinking etc leads to good health
and even miraculous cures of illness etc, whilst negative thinking can bring about or stimulate illnesses such as depression and other general illnesses such as flu's and colds etc that would seem like some form of proof of the effects of positive and negative energy even if they cannot be given physical attributes.
Also if you dig up the Athenian acropolis you could potentially prove the existence of reptilians
boooshpig
15-07-2008, 04:11 PM
Hi Bill23
Good question, and interesting to note that most of the replies you have been given have been about why David has not been killed ass opposed to the reptile question.
I am a big fan of most of Ickes work, at the least it is 100% more right than the nonsense coming down our tv sets. I am not yet a believer of reptilian beings or agendas but I do not rule it out. It may be true, it may not be, if it is true it may be so in a way that requires a shift in the way we perceive of such things.
To my understanding the place to try and uncover more in this regard would be the anthropology and legands/myths from tribal communities of today and of the past.
Include in this search a look into the beings of different dimensions encountered during shamanic journeys such as ayahuasca and iboga. I am not saying reptiles are encountered here but it will give you a new perspective on 'other beings'.
I shall also note the observation that whilst there are some open minded and enquiring minds here, I have also noticed quite a degree of 'belief'. Belief is not what we are working on here folks, in castenedas words 'believe only what is necessary'. Be critical and skeptical, and what is left after, may just be something to go on. Blind faith in reptiles because whatever else he says seems to be right does not cut it for me. Though as I said, I do not rule it out
Boooshpig
boooshpig
15-07-2008, 04:13 PM
Also....If there is some decent evidence out there, someone please post it!
Bushpig
legendary
16-07-2008, 01:46 AM
Hi Bill23
Good question, and interesting to note that most of the replies you have been given have been about why David has not been killed ass opposed to the reptile question.
I am a big fan of most of Ickes work, at the least it is 100% more right than the nonsense coming down our tv sets. I am not yet a believer of reptilian beings or agendas but I do not rule it out. It may be true, it may not be, if it is true it may be so in a way that requires a shift in the way we perceive of such things.
To my understanding the place to try and uncover more in this regard would be the anthropology and legands/myths from tribal communities of today and of the past.
Include in this search a look into the beings of different dimensions encountered during shamanic journeys such as ayahuasca and iboga. I am not saying reptiles are encountered here but it will give you a new perspective on 'other beings'.
I shall also note the observation that whilst there are some open minded and enquiring minds here, I have also noticed quite a degree of 'belief'. Belief is not what we are working on here folks, in castenedas words 'believe only what is necessary'. Be critical and skeptical, and what is left after, may just be something to go on. Blind faith in reptiles because whatever else he says seems to be right does not cut it for me. Though as I said, I do not rule it out
Boooshpig
i like your attitude there mate i feel exactly the same as you but the only case i can think of which could provide proof about either the falsehood of one particular myth or the truth behind the concept of reptilians has never once been covered by any reptilian investigator type people. although at the same time gaining permission to excavate the site would be near impossible, especially if you stated that as your reasoning
nick_b2581
16-07-2008, 02:52 AM
I personally believe in the reptilian angle because it is the only one that ties everything together. The whole conspiracy does not make any real sense until you start looking at 4th dimension, vibrational frequencies and astral projection, ets and so on.
Plus this stuff is not a new age invention, the amount of literature about this subject is massive, thats just the stuff that hasnt been destroyed or kept truly secret.
Dont you think it just makes sense? The theory ties almost everything together, from Fortean Mysteries to the most mundane everyday occourances.
So here is what I am saying, if the theory that Icke applies is not the whole truth as far as we can understand it in this incarnation, then what is?
Nobody can prove any religion or spiritual path or truth on earth is any more true than the conspiracy of everything.
Or how about an easier one?
Someone explain the significance of these symbols if indeed reptilians did not have something to do with the creation of the human race.
http://medicineworld.org/images/blogs/5-2007/medical-symbol-snake-15021.Jpeg
http://nextcustomer.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/800px-flag_of_the_red_cross1.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Soviet_flag_red_star.svg/300px-Soviet_flag_red_star.svg.png
http://www.militarystencils.com/images/SpecialtyDecals/Army/ArmyStar.jpg
with the greatest respect (for i am merely curious), how do the reasons you mentioned lead you to the belief that the reptilian theory is accurate?
surely there could be another explanation that too "ties everything together" that just has not been unearthed as of yet.
or maybe, symbolically, those images mean nothing. or maybe they are symbolic for the previously mentioned unearthed meaning.
or maybe "fortean mysteries" and "the most mundane everyday occurances" have no significance to one another whatsoever?
although i am struggling to understand the relation and how it is made, i truly do want to understand it, so please don't feel i am challenging anyone's belief.
the only thing is, i have read nothing to persuade me of the reptilian theory, though plenty to persuade me of an agenda of some sort.
legendary
16-07-2008, 03:16 AM
with the greatest respect (for i am merely curious), how do the reasons you mentioned lead you to the belief that the reptilian theory is accurate?
surely there could be another explanation that too "ties everything together" that just has not been unearthed as of yet.
or maybe, symbolically, those images mean nothing. or maybe they are symbolic for the previously mentioned unearthed meaning.
or maybe "fortean mysteries" and "the most mundane everyday occurances" have no significance to one another whatsoever?
although i am struggling to understand the relation and how it is made, i truly do want to understand it, so please don't feel i am challenging anyone's belief.
the only thing is, i have read nothing to persuade me of the reptilian theory, though plenty to persuade me of an agenda of some sort.
Yes most people seem to take this view. to be honest i'm pretty dubious about the whole reptilian aspect of Icke's work seems to be a load of smoke and mirrors leading nowhere
Also i don't see the relation between any of those symbols (posted by noobcybot) and 'reptilians'
those aren't proof they are speculation find me a skeleton or something then i may be more inclined to believe
Did nobody ever consider that the interwined snakes represent the double helix which makes up our DNA? bit more believeable than the suggestion they mean our doctors are really lizard men or something
boooshpig
16-07-2008, 09:49 AM
Well, the intertwined snakes, DNA, ayahuasca visions all have these images within them.
The reptilians are different dimensional beings (apparently) so finding a skeleton would not happen. I am sure(maybe not so?) that icke has discussed the reptilian part of our brain/mind. Therefore one hypothesis would be that they are different entities that work through us? This of course is speculatoin and not evidence based.
I think personal experience would be the onl clincher, and I have none of that in these regards. However it would be interesting to do more work on reptiles in ancient myth/legend etc. A look into Hancocks or Setchins works may provide some information here.
Boooshpig
danoli3
16-07-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but when I first heard what david was saying about a cult that controlled everyone, i thought of Conan the Barbarian ( the first one).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082198/
Its amazing how much the cult in this movie follows the theme...
The leader of the cult sacrifices humans and eats them and morphs into a snake. plus so much more symbolism.
Anyone else see this?
maybe ill make a thread about this...
paradox
16-07-2008, 05:35 PM
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but when I first heard what david was saying about a cult that controlled everyone, i thought of Conan the Barbarian ( the first one).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082198/
Its amazing how much the cult in this movie follows the theme...
The leader of the cult sacrifices humans and eats them and morphs into a snake. plus so much more symbolism.
Anyone else see this?
maybe ill make a thread about this...
Yeah mna make a thread about it its sounds good.
Have you seen appocalypto!