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mada88

21-04-2007, 08:09 PM

tru3

28-04-2007, 06:24 AM

mada88

28-04-2007, 02:13 PM

nowhere

29-04-2007, 09:17 PM

I understand the Time Loop , but can anyone explain to me in depth the whole 'theory' ? Like what does Icke say on it? Thank You!!

tru3

30-04-2007, 05:47 AM

I had an idea that the illuminati might have a pleasure in the system being changed/destroyed?. Like they have a back up plan for what might happen.

About 2012 watch 2010. 2010 may be a year when a new son is reveled like in the film/book.

depending on who you believe, the loomies want to leave earth but they can't because of a resonant frequency block around the earth.

it's my feeling that they desperately want to get everyone chipped before 2012, because of frequency changes we'll all be feeling during that period that will render most of the old forms of suppression obsolete.

then, they'll have to keep future generations in line by controlling the food chain, only supplying some critical gm'ed enzyme by scanning your chip at the store.

but i just don't see this happening, call me a romantic fool. what i believe is going to happen is that people will wake up one day and see things they never saw before, and wonder why they live the way they do. it will be a profound change on a cellular and genetic level.

so really, 2012 is a beginning, not an end, imv.

earthseed

30-04-2007, 08:14 AM

I've been going through some very profound changes in consciousness in the last few years it's been mind blowing. And I'm not special surely everyone is or will catch up. Let's hope.

mada88

30-04-2007, 08:17 PM

About the illuminati taking pleasure out of there reign being up, maybe Its like people who like getting beating up etc. Like they might want us to have the power and then take some pleasure from the fact of giving it away. It seems odd now that everyones watching there moves yet they still do things.

archangel

02-05-2007, 09:04 AM

I recently watched an amazing video on 2012 by Dannion Brinkley. It was the best I've seen concerning 2012. The video has since been taken down. It seems all the best videos get brushed away. Michael Tsarion had a really good one to that is now gone.

I'm not sure whether to be excited or scared about this date. I felt Dannion Brinkley really knew alot but was holding back and somehow hinting of a castrophy by implying not to be afraid of physical death b/c you never really die in spirit form. He went on to say that some of it is down right frightening.

I've read some intersting things about this being a global catrosphy b/c of the earth changing direction on its axis. I recently read a book by Patrick Geryl who has pretty interesting evidnece to support this. It apparently happened in the past in the Age of LEO and is recorded in Egyptian Hieroglyphs is scheduled to happen again as we enter the AGE of Aquarius.

Scary to say the least but also exciting.

Perhaps something like this is what will reduce the world population so much and the the NWO will just maintain the population after that point? Who knows.

earthseed

02-05-2007, 04:57 PM

I pity those who survive they will be even more slavelike than we are. Probably be turned into cloned robots.

mcmenek1

03-05-2007, 01:26 AM

I was wondering if 2012 will be the date when the time loop starts over again. The mayans talk about the zero year and I was reading tales from the time loop and I thought that there could be a connection. I don't agree that things will end, things will change I agree with that yeah. I like the idea about humans escaping there leather bodies.

ciao

Hi mada88,

We are coming to the end of a long cycle..... this cycle represents how far we have travelled from the oneness.......we are shortly coming to the farthest point that we are allowed to travel from the oneness before the cycle starts over.......when the cycle starts over we will reconnect to the oneness and be much the wiser for our travels from the oneness.....and we will be ready to evolve to the next stage by starting at the beginning of the next cycle of travel......

At the end of this present cycle there will be a transformation of matter......this transformation will effect us physically.....we will become far less dense our bodies will change from being carbon based to crystalline based......this needs to happen so we can survive in the higher energies that will be coming in at the end of the present cycle...........:)

Love
&
Peace

gremlin

03-05-2007, 02:10 AM

where did you get your information to back this up please?

mada88

03-05-2007, 10:42 PM

Hi mada88,

We are coming to the end of a long cycle..... this cycle represents how far we have travelled from the oneness.......we are shortly coming to the farthest point that we are allowed to travel from the oneness before the cycle starts over.......when the cycle starts over we will reconnect to the oneness and be much the wiser for our travels from the oneness.....and we will be ready to evolve to the next stage by starting at the beginning of the next cycle of travel......

At the end of this present cycle there will be a transformation of matter......this transformation will effect us physically.....we will become far less dense our bodies will change from being carbon based to crystalline based......this needs to happen so we can survive in the higher energies that will be coming in at the end of the present cycle...........:)

Love
&
Peace

I personally don't like the idea of "evolving" its like what David says about the new age its just snakes and ladders.

mcmenek1

04-05-2007, 01:08 AM

where did you get your information to back this up please?

Hi gremlin,

A good pictorial representation of the long cycle we are going through at the moment is the Mayan 13 Baktun Cycle Wave Harmonic of History:

http://www.tortuga.com/multimedia/2.html

Note the first Baktun the Baktun of the Star Planting this is symbolic of consciousness (us) separating from the oneness and being manifest in the 3rd dimension of duality.......this consciousness travels through the long cycle reincarnating over and over through the various periods learning wisdom as it goes.

Note the last Baktun the Baktun of the Transformation of Matter is symbolic for consciousness moving beyond the 3rd dimension of duality and returning to the oneness

On how we will be affected physically this is an excerpt from a Matthew Ward message:

New Form Of Humans Being
Made? DNA, Cellular Upgrades?
6-17-4

Dr Berrenda Fox provides evidence of DNA and cellular changes in this
interview by Patricia Resch...

Dr Fox is the holistic practicioner of the Avalon Wellness Centre in Mt Shasta, California. The Avalon Clinic represents the re-emergence of the ideal of healing as practised on the original Isle of Avalon.
Dr Fox has proven through blood tests that some people have actually developed new strands of DNA.

PATRICA RESCH: Berrenda, tell us a little about your background.

Dr BERRENDA FOX: I have doctorates in physiology and naturopathy. During my training in Europe, I also was involved with the media and this still continues in film and management. As you know, I'm working with FOX Television Network to bring about UNDERSTANDING OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS AND THEIR ROLE IN WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH MANKIND at
this time. The most well known are 'Sightings' and 'The X Files.'

PR: What are the changes that are happening at this time on the planet, and how are our bodies being affected?

BF: There are major changes, mutations that haven't occurred, according to geneticists, since the time we supposedly came out of the
water. Several years ago in Mexico City there was a convention of geneticists from around the world, and the main topic was the DNA
change. We are making an evolutionary change, yet we don't know what we are changing into.

PR: How is our DNA changing?

BF: Everyone has one double helix of DNA. What we are finding is that THERE ARE OTHER HELIXES THAT ARE BEING FORMED. In the double helix
there are two strands of DNA coiled into a spiral. It is my understanding that we will be developing twelve helixes. During this time, which seems to have started maybe 5 to 20 years ago, we have been mutating. This is the scientific explanation. It is a MUTATION OF
OUR SPECIES into something for which THE END RESULT IS NOT YET KNOWN.

The changes are NOT KNOWN PUBLICLY, because the scientific community feels it would FRIGHTEN THE POPULATION. However, people are changing at the cellular level. I am working with three children right now who have three DNA helixes. Most people know and feel this. Many religions have talked about the change and know it will come about in different
ways. We know it is a positive mutation even though physically, mentally, and emotionally it can be misunderstood and frightening.

PR: Are these children displaying any characteristics different from other children?

BF: These are children who can move objects across the room just by concentrating on them, or they can fill glasses of water just by
looking at them. THEY'RE TELEPATHIC. You would almost think by knowing these children that they are half angelic or superhuman, but they're not. I think they are what we are growing into during the next few decades.

PR: Do you think this will happen to all of us?

BR: Our immune and endocrine systems are the most evident of these changes. That is one of the reasons I work with research in immunological testing and therapy. Some adults that I have tested actually do have another DNA helix forming. Some are even getting
their third. These people are going through a lot of major shifts in their consciousness and physical bodies, because it is all one. In my
opinion, the Earth and everyone here is raising its vibration. Many of the children born recently have bodies that are magnetically lighter. Those of us that are older and choose to change have to go through
many physical changes.

PR: What causes change in bodies born with normal two strand DNA?

BF: The easiest way to mutate our DNA is through a virus. Consequently viruses are not necessarily bad. Viruses live only on living tissue. DNA viruses like Epstein Barr and the Herpes #6 change cellular structure. The retro virus HIV is not a DNA virus. Instead of mutating the body, it actually eats it up. Most people who go through this process and come out the other side have a new profession, a new way of thinking, or at least a starting of a new way of life.

Even though they may feel really sick, tired, or hopeless at times, it is a gift. They are being given a chance to change their DNA structure and their body into a lighter, healthier body that can see them into the next generation. The angels that are being seen are signs that we are shifting. As I understand it, WE HAVE UNTIL ABOUT 2012 TO COMPLETE
THIS PROCESS.

PR: What other changes should we expect to see?

BF: There will be no disease, we will not need to die. We will be able to learn our lessons not through suffering but through joy and love. The old system has to crumble away, and is not doing that without putting up a big fight. So you have all the wars; a lot of the medical type of healing is not working; the government is not working. A lot of the old paradigms can no longer exist, yet are fighting to be maintained, but there is no doubt that it is changing.

Those of us who have chose to live at this time are the forerunners of almost a new species. It is human, yet we are at the same time actually manifesting heaven on Earth. We are receiving extra help from masters and extraterrestrials, angelic beings, and learning to go inward. The more we are able to go in and listen to that quiet voice, the more we are in tune with the changes that are happening.

PR: What are some of the side effects of these changes?

BF: With a cellular change you are sometimes going to feel as though you are not here. You may feel exhaustion, because we are literally
changing cells and becoming new beings. Like a new baby, you may need lots of rest.

Mental confusion and not being able to concentrate on routine tasks may happen as we are being programmed for something larger. Aches and pains throughout the body for which there is no specific cause are common. Many people feel as though they are going crazy. If they go into an orthodox medical office, most likely they will be put on Prozac, because they can't define what it is. It is difficult for the medical profession because they are not used to dealing with the energy body.

Because the chakras are related to our endocrine system, women will go through hormonal changes. There may be crying without knowing why because crying releases hormones. Many women are going through menopause earlier because we are accelerating.

Men may be very frustrated with the exhaustion when they are used to being very active. They may feel their feminine side coming out
because this is the intuitive side. The emotional therapy that has been coming out in the last 20 to 30 years has been speeded up with new techniques for these changes. We are actually doing a tremendous amount of emotional work in a very short time which would have taken thousands of years.

PR: How do you you treat someone who is going through these changes?

BF: I approach it from the viewpoint of working with individual beings instead of treating a disease, 'Doctor' in Latin means educator. The only effective service you can perform as a true healer is to empower
individuals with the necessary tools and reassure them that what is happening is real, and that they can heal and be free of the
'negative' symptoms while healing.

First, I require immunological testing that is not traditionally done. This is a blood laboratory test performed by an advanced specialty research lab. Then I give the patient the information themselves. This
is much like a map of the changes so they can have the power to heal. I am not the healer but only an instrument in their individual healing process. There is power in a person looking at their own blood tests and seeing the map of what is going on in their bodies that causes something to click in the subconscious.

The real key is that the person take responsibility and do their own work. What I use as tools are not commonly used. I use a lot of Organotherapy, which is a glandular treatment from Europe, to build up the hormonal system to accept the changes in the DNA.

Also, I use homeopathy to work on the energetic body, vitamins, herbs, and cold laser therapy. The therapy depends entirely on individual needs. Much of what I do has been accessed from those whom I would call older sisters and brothers who have gone on before us. They are from other solar systems that we have all come from to help this planet with its transition.

PR: How do you see your work evolving?

BF: I look at my work as a bridge or transition. It is both scientific and artistic. Healing is an art and a science. Using only science or just the art of healing is not enough for complete health. I don't think I will be a healer all my life because I believe disease will be eliminated. We as conscious people will eliminate disease and suffering.

DNA AND BODY CHANGES AND REMEDIES

Extracted from an article 'The Bigger Picture' by Susanna Thorpe-Clark.
We are being changed physically from carbon-based beings with 2 strands of DNA into crystalline beings with 1,024 strands of DNA (eventually), because only crystalline substances can exist on higher dimensional levels. We are in fact having our bodies MERGED WITH SIRIAN DNA strands, as this format is close enough to our own to be able to integrate with relatively little side effects.

It is not just we humans who are changing, but all life forms on Earth are becoming crystalline. All the fish in the sea, the flowers and trees in your garden, the birds in the sky, even your pet dog or cat.
Everything is changing. Nothing will die or be destroyed, for we are all moving together into A NEW STATE OF BEING. This new state of being
requires therefore that we physically, mentally and emotionally let go of 3rd dimensional concepts.

Just as in death, the letting go is a major part of the change process, for one cannot take the old values and way of being into a
new completely different afterlife. So the progression through changes compels us to let go of current relationships, jobs, careers, homes, possessions, and so on, if they are unable to support our new way of being.

Is it any wonder therefore, that there is a great deal of anxiety and fear being felt because these changes are already in progress, even though most people are not conscious of it. Also, the changes to our physiological makeup are currently speeding up and there are MANY TEMPORARY PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS that are occurring in our bodies as a consequence of this. Some of these are:

Flu-like symptoms - high temperatures, sweating, aching bones and joints etc, but which do not respond to antibiotics.

Migraine headaches - severe pain that is not relieved with pain killers.

Occasional diarrhoea.

Occasional runny nose - with sneezing which lasts 24 hours and is not a cold or hayfever.

Dizziness

Ringing in the ears

Heart palpitations

Feeling the whole body vibrate - especially at night when one is in a relaxed state.

Intense muscle spasms - plus pain in the body, often the back.

Tingling - in arms, hands, legs or feet.

Loss of muscular power - in hands, caused by changes in circulation system.

Occasional breathing difficulties - and/or noticing stronger or louder breathing when in a relaxed state.

Immune system changes

Lymphatic system changes

Feeling tired - or exhausted from minor exertion.

Wanting to sleep - longer and more often than normal.

Toe nails and hair growing quicker than normal.

Bouts of depression for no real reason.

Delving into the past - and looking at relationships, gaining clarity on personal issues.

Feeling of a huge purge
Tension, anxiety and high stress levels - because one feels that something is going on but doesn't know what it is.

Some of these symptoms are being felt by a great many people. Many are rushing off in panic to their doctor, chiropractor, herbalist, and so on, and are usually told that there is nothing wrong with them. And
this is the truth. For all these symptoms are just temporary and simply indicate that these physiological changes are occurring.

Some of the RECOMMENDED RELIEF REMEDIES for the above are: Go with the flow, don't fight it. If you feel tired and exhausted, rest and get plenty of sleep. Drink lots of water for you are detoxifying and dehydrating quicker than usual. To relieve emotional tension and
stress levels take Valerian. Fenugreek relieves stress on the lymphatic system and helps the detoxification.

To relieve muscle spasm take Valerian and try mud baths or a long, hot soak in a bath to which you add a cup of Epsom salts. Do this daily.
Rocognise that even if you are having heart palpitations or breathing difficulties that it is the heart chakra or the throat chakra that is unblocking and that the symptoms are temporary. You aren't dying, just changing! However, don't just take my word for it. Seek medical guidance if you are unsure. If you don't know where to get Valerian or Fenugreek, try a health food store or better still, simply say the name in your head when you need relief.

All healing energies are transmitted via the sound of the name and are just as effective said in the mind or aloud, as in physically taking them. Try it and see. Ask your angel guides to help relieve any pain. They are just waiting to be asked! Most symptoms seem to last a couple of weeks, then clear up. Some symptoms may recur from time to time. These changes are not neccessarily being experienced by everyone concurrently. A very small percentage of adults have already completed
the entire change into crystalline form and now embody 1,024 strands of DNA.

One report is of a woman who has grown 3 inches taller and a footsize larger. All children under the age of 7 have also now completed the change, or will shortly do so. Babies born in the past 2 years have all been born with the full set of DNA. Some people are only just starting to move through these changes, and many others have yet to start. This process of change is known as the Awakening, or as the Ascension process, or known as achieving the Merkabah, or light body.

We need to transcend our fears and learn about love, real love, which has to start with the self. Because, until we can love and trust
ourself, We cannot truly love or trust anything or anybody else.

Evidence Of DNA & Cellular Changes

http://www.homestead.com/_allaboutlife/files/Dr._Berrenda_Fox.htm

DNA Changes (by various authors)

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/dna_changes.htm

Mathew Ward message
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=12

Love
&
Peace

chattanova

10-06-2007, 08:12 AM

http://www.december212012.com/articles/news/10.htm

barbitone

10-06-2007, 08:48 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wio728lLOh0

This stuff is a good experiment that shows what's going on. Vibration is raising expenetialy (sp?) so that you get this critical mass type situation where by there are stages - so we are sort of coming up to the point where it mutates into a higher level of vibrational order. :D

Consciousness' resonate frequency is on the rise and if you can't match it I imagine that you'll simply not benefit the upgrade which could mean your demise.
ie: what has falsely been interperated (minipulated) as the fundermentalist christian idea of "the rapture", "the apocolypse" etc...

If your DNA doesn't have a broadband connection, if you like, it won't be able to receive any new updated

Anyway...yeah.

barbitone

10-06-2007, 08:58 AM

I think there is interesting stuff here like:

seven colors - red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet

seven notes in an octave - A B C D E F G

seven is a highly significant number as you know. Usually connected with more positive usage.

I assume that each of these points, seven in this case, are the peak resonate area's. At least in association with our perception of course which goes all the way to the DNA.

The DNA is the receiver\transmitter of reality. The brain decodes it into electrical signals that communicate with the body. The mind is an energy field. Like a matrix of parameters,programmings and settings.

All these things, by the way, are of course the same thing in truth.

Also I just remembered.....the colours and their wavelengths correspond to the 7 chakras in the human body!
http://eosweb.larc.nasa.gov/EDDOCS/Wavelengths_for_Colors.html