UK Dream Control Program?

[krakhead]

I've been a bit unsure about posting what I'm about to post as it challenged my belief systems quite dramatically, also I don't want to draw attention to people who wish to leave this behind them.

This post will be purposefully vague, I apologise in advance.

I was recently told about an experience a close friend's friend (and yeah, I already know what the response in your head SHOULD be to that statement alone!) approx 7 years ago.

This person had some very intense dreams over several nights.

It left them with a word firmly imprinted on their consciousness, a German word.

They became almost obsessed with this word and had to look it up.

Some internet searching led them to a gov't site, the word in question ended up being a password to a protected area. But, as far as I'm aware, nothing more was gained from the site itself.

Not long after they were approached by people identifying themselves as MoD, they explained that they were experimenting with transmissions that would be picked up in dreams by certain, sensitive people and they wanted this person to 'work' with them in developing the system further.

Every now and again dreams were 'implanted', seemingly with the intention that different people would process the information differently and gain different insights. These dreams included information about crimes.

From what I've been told, some were very distressing.

Several people who had been 'enrolled' in the program were given each others contact details so they could compare their experiences.

Initially I rejected this, but I had met the person involved a few times, very much a non-hyperbolic, 'spade-is-a-spade' type.

This was several years ago, the whole story has got me thinking about what they might be capable of now. Also, why are only some people receptive to the signals?

Any thoughts?

[marpat]

Personally I think it is a lie. If the MOD wanted to experiment in such a way they would easily find volunteers within the services, such as they done in the past for testing at Porton Down. A money incentive would bring in people and because they are in the service they could be gagged on the results.

There is also the issue of invasion of privacy. They would never carry out an unauthorised experiment on the public then ask them if they had any effects. That would just cause al sorts of legal problems for them. You have to ask yourself why would they do it like that when they could keep the whole thing within the MOD.

The only other explanation I can think of is that some people have been trying to carry out their own experiments and the only way to do that is to test it on unwilling victims, not being able to get volunteers. They would then have to try and get information on it's success from those people which would involve lying about who they are and what they are doing, in this case pretending to be MOD. Who would do it? students wanting to test a theory, amateurs who are interested in mind control, could be anybody who wants to influence people. People always blame official organisations but there are people who would do such things purely out of curiosity to see how far they can push something.

[krakhead]

Personally I think it is a lie.

LOL! Fair enough!

If the MOD wanted to experiment in such a way they would easily find volunteers within the services, such as they done in the past for testing at Porton Down. A money incentive would bring in people and because they are in the service they could be gagged on the results.

But would volunteers be susceptible? Perhaps only certain people can 'decode' the messages/transmissions sent? And would they necessarily be the people who volunteered?

There is also the issue of invasion of privacy. They would never carry out an unauthorised experiment on the public then ask them if they had any effects. That would just cause al sorts of legal problems for them. You have to ask yourself why would they do it like that when they could keep the whole thing within the MOD.

I'm sure there's plenty of evidence regarding governments carrying out unauthorised experiments on the public. Not necessarily within the mind control field, but certainly with the transmission of diseases within certain populations, for example the Tuskegee experiments - link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_ Male)


The only other explanation I can think of is that some people have been trying to carry out their own experiments and the only way to do that is to test it on unwilling victims, not being able to get volunteers. They would then have to try and get information on it's success from those people which would involve lying about who they are and what they are doing, in this case pretending to be MOD. Who would do it? students wanting to test a theory, amateurs who are interested in mind control, could be anybody who wants to influence people. People always blame official organisations but there are people who would do such things purely out of curiosity to see how far they can push something.

Could well be. I wasn't suggesting the MoD were being blamed as such, just that was the website I was told and the people involved identified themselves as such.

But I would still like some ideas as to what equipment could produce this result in anyone! And how would students organise themselves so well?

I'm not specifically asking you to answer Marpat, just pointing out some issues I still seek clarification on.

[marpat]

LOL! Fair enough!



But would volunteers be susceptible? Perhaps only certain people can 'decode' the messages/transmissions sent? And would they necessarily be the people who volunteered?


I'm not specifically asking you to answer Marpat, just pointing out some issues I still seek clarification on.


You would not know until you tried but would anybody really do such an experiment then just walk up and ask how it went. I really doubt it.

I am sure experiments have been carried out but do then then ask the people who were the targets what effect it had? no, they just deny all knowledge and involvement

As for equipment I would guess a radio that is modulating at a frequency in harmony with the brain natural frequency. Changes in modulation may or may not have the effect of imparting impressions on the brain which are then interpreted by the brain into images. Pure guess so don't quote me on that.

[krakhead]

Here goes -

As for equipment I would guess a radio that is modulating at a frequency in harmony with the brain natural frequency. Changes in modulation may or may not have the effect of imparting impressions on the brain which are then interpreted by the brain into images. Pure guess so don't quote me on that.

Oh, DON'T quote you! ;)

[deca]

I am a victim on mind control & electronic harassment
they often mess with my dreams ok

yep the technology is unbelievable, mainly because there is a media black out on it but there is plenty of info if you look for it.

[marpat]

I am a victim on mind control & electronic harassment
they often mess with my dreams ok

yep the technology is unbelievable, mainly because there is a media black out on it but there is plenty of info if you look for it.


But I an sure that nobody has approached you saying they were from the MOD and asking how their efforts have been going.

[deca]

not directly - they have tried to bullshit me throw microwave hearing , i can think talk back so its like a communication device.
(they have told me to go to some remote place a couple of times and wait for somebody to meet me in person but I don`t trust them so I never went)
thats way I know so much , I have questioned them alot so I have not fallen for all the disinformation etc.
that some TI`s do ok,I did in the early days thou.
Not that they tell me anything, but I can work out the bullshit and crap they play after a while.

[krakhead]

bump

[deca]

http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn13415
Mind-reading machine knows what the eye can see
A device that reveals what a person sees by decoding their brain activity could soon be a reality, say researchers who have developed a more sophisticated way to extract visual stimuli from brain signals.
Scientists at the University of California, Berkeley, US, developed a computational model that uses functional MRI (fMRI) data to decode information from an individual's visual cortex – the part of the brain responsible for processing visual stimuli.
"Our research makes substantial advances towards being able to decode mental content from brain activity as measured using fMRI," Kendrick Kay, a co-author of the study, told New Scientist. "In fact, our results suggest it may soon be possible to reconstruct our visual experiences from brain activity."
Complex imagesPrevious research has shown that fMRI can pick out brain activity associated with viewing different images. But so far it has only been possible to identify very basic images, from fixed categories, such as a face or a house. The process also depends on prior knowledge of the associated brain activity.
Now the Berkeley team has shown that brain imaging can reveal much more complex and arbitrary images, without prior knowledge of brain activity.
The team first used fMRI to measure visual cortex activity in people looking at more than a thousand photographs. This allowed them to develop a computational model and "train" their decoder to understand how each person's visual cortex processes information.
Next, participants were shown a random set of just over 100 previously unseen photographs. Based on patterns identified in the first set of fMRIs, the team was able to accurately predict which image was being observed.
Dream reader?"It is going to be particularly powerful in the field of visual perception and possibly the field of decoding motor responses," says John-Dylan Haynes of the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Leipzig, Germany.
The research also hints that scientists might one day be able to access dreams, memories and imagery, says Haynes, providing the brain processes dreams in a way that is analogous to visual stimuli.
"The difficulty is that that it's very hard to set up models for other types of complex thoughts, such as memories and intentions," Haynes says.
Journal reference: Nature (DOI: 10.1038/nature06713)


see look at all these things that I have cliamed to have experienced are now coming fact? only the distance and done by remote have to be proved now and that they have used this on people without there consent.
still think I am just some lone "nutter" who makes wild claims?
or am I a person trying to inform you of whats going on.