David Icke banned from ‘Big Brother public meeting

[shodan]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/david-icke-banned-from-big-brother-public-meeting-with-bob-geldof-and-david-davis.html

David Davis doesn’t want a real debate on the Orwellian State – he wants a controlled one that’s only on his terms with safe people like Tony Benn and Bob Geldof.

The basis on which this by-election was called – to have an open debate on the Big Brother State – is a blatant misrepresentation of what is actually happening.

Today, David Icke attended the Hull Guildhall with a resident from the Haltemprice and Howden constituency, with tickets booked through the local Conservative Party in her name, to see the presentation of David Davis and Bob Geldof on ‘civil liberties’.

The resident was told, as was everyone else, that this was a public debate open to anyone so long as they had a ticket booked. The event was advertised as such on the David Davis website.

But as soon as the David Davis minders saw David Icke everything changed. Suddenly it was a ‘private’ event that only invited people could attend. This was an outrageous untruth.

David Icke, as someone who was warning about the coming Big Brother State before either of today’s speakers had even heard of it, simply wanted to listen to what they had to say, but was not allowed even though he had a ticket.

Davis said he called this by-election to have a public debate on these issues, yet won’t even allow the world’s most prolific writer on the subject to sit in an audience and listen to him. So Big Brother steps in to stop David Icke attending a meeting called to ‘challenge Big Brother’.

You couldn’t make it up.

[esse]

Thanks for posting... perhaps they need to up the level of newspeak so they can chop and change with a bit more subtlety

pathetic.

[loderlive]

Thanks for posting... perhaps they need to up the level of newspeak so they can chop and change with a bit more subtlety

pathetic.

Yet more ammunition and reason to continue. I'm sure he will have plenty to say about this one.

Puurthetic!

[coshh]

If they organised this meeting its entirely within their rights to change it from public to private if they don't want Icke there.

You have to admit he doesn't exactly help the cause of civil liberties. If he gets involved the whole process will be subject to "guilt by association".

[loderlive]

If they organised this meeting its entirely within their rights to change it from public to private if they don't want Icke there.

Yes and it gives more credibility to his work.

[coshh]

Yes and it gives more credibility to his work.Go out on the street with a clipboard and ask the first 50 random passers by if they find Icke's theories more credible as a result of this.
I would be interested to see the results but my bets are on no.

[shodan]

Go out on the street with a clipboard and ask the first 50 random passers by if they find Icke's theories more credible as a result of this.
I would be interested to see the results but my bets are on no.

I think for the potentially millions of people who might stumble across this story, on the internet, in the papers etc it has every chance of being the story that leads them onto a book, this forum etc, thus swelling the ranks so to speak. Curiosity is what lead the vast majority of us on this journey in the first place.

[jack5]

Go out on the street with a clipboard and ask the first 50 random passers by if they find Icke's theories more credible as a result of this.
I would be interested to see the results but my bets are on no.

Go back and sit in front of your tv.Ickes attempting to do battle with a mass media that controls most of the sheeples thoughts.Try reading the global conspiracy, Ickes latest book.

[krakhead]

Go out on the street with a clipboard and ask the first 50 random passers by if they find Icke's theories more credible as a result of this.
I would be interested to see the results but my bets are on no.

My bets are on - very few people will have found out this happened in the first place. Something to do with a BB media? ;)

[hirschfelder]

If they organised this meeting its entirely within their rights to change it from public to private if they don't want Icke there.

So what? Just because they can it doesn't mean they should

And the alternative media has every right to report on the hypocrisy of this stunt and the disingenuous nature of Davis' stance. The MSM won't report this act of cowardice

You have to admit he doesn't exactly help the cause of civil liberties. If he gets involved the whole process will be subject to "guilt by association".

Are you trying to say that the movement for greater civil rights will lose credibility in the public eye because of Icke's involvment? Really?

Tell you what, go get a clipboard and ask 50 people if they now support 42 day detention because David Icke is opposd to it :rolleyes:

[daveybpl]

Go out on the street with a clipboard and ask the first 50 random passers by if they find Icke's theories more credible as a result of this.
I would be interested to see the results but my bets are on no.

Chance are if you mention to 50 passers by the words 'big brother and vote' David Davis or Icke isn't the first thing that's going to pop into their heads.

[coshh]

Are you trying to say that the movement for greater civil rights will lose credibility in the public eye because of Icke's involvment? Really?

Tell you what, go get a clipboard and ask 50 people if they now support 42 day detention because David Icke is opposd to it :rolleyes:
It's not that their views will change. Its that they'll be demoralised by the association.

[joyful]

So Davis is treating the whole charade as a soapbox for his personal advancement. The public suckered again.

[hirschfelder]

It's not that their views will change. Its that they'll be demoralised by the association.

Oh. I see.

[cheeb]

So Davis is treating the whole charade as a soapbox for his personal advancement. The public suckered again.

Hello..!!!

He Is A Politician,
Therefore A Professional Liar..!!!!

Or Should That Read "Economical With The Truth".

I'm, Surprised David Icke Put Himself In This Hornets Nest In The First Place...

Wot With His Previous Experiences Of Politics

Icke next entered Isle of Wight politics through the Liberal Party (since renamed Liberal Democrats), but suddenly dropped out, now converted to the cause of Green party politics.

But as soon as the David Davis minders saw David Icke everything changed. Suddenly it was a ‘private’ event that only invited people could attend. This was an outrageous untruth.


But To Be Fair To David Davis,
This Event Was For:
An Invited Audience Of Local Schoolchildren

Nowhere Does It Say It Was A Public Event..!!!!

Unless Anyone Can Show Me Different.....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7490820.stm

@ 18 seconds..

:rolleyes:

[phaid]

Just shows that Davis is running what you call a 'limited hangout' campaign, where you let a small amount of 'truth' into the public arena but in fact are concealing the majority of the important issues and their causes, and in this case you refuse to engage anyone who does not fit into that scenario and would ask embarrassing questions.

A limited hangout typically is a response to lower the pressure felt from inquisitive investigators pursuing clues that threaten to expose everything, and the disclosure is often combined with red herrings or propaganda elements that lead to false trails, distractions, or ideological disinformation; thus allowing covert or criminal elements to continue in their improper activities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

[grole]

I watched David Icke's press conference on GoogleVideo. I thought it was really excellent.

But..... a couple of problems, if you look at things from a detached point of view.

(1) David (these days) always comes across as very angry and a bit hectoring. This is whether he is at Brixton Academy or in a cosy studio with Richard & Judy! The seeming inability to adjust his tone for the audience does not, IMHO, do him any favours and, as he is a former broadcaster, astonishes me.

(2) David is still labelled with "Son of God" and "The Queen is a bloodthirsty shapeshifting reptile". I honestly believe he has shot himself in the foot with his (arguably) naive presentation of issues which exist on a more subtle level. He needs to address the public ridicule he exposed himself to, head on, if he is ever to be taken seriously by the mass of the population. Even now, so many years on, the above-mentioned points are what he is - in the main - associated with. So it is all too easy for the tabloids to continue to use the 'nutter' label, which obscures all the good work he is doing.

[dooby]

When I mention Icke, the first thing people say is "Is that the Son of God?". It's unfortunate, as I believe he's very intelligent and switched on. Truth is stranger than fiction :)

I'm currently reading Icke's latest book, and it's ace! :D

[dondaz]

I wonder if there were any other candidates at that talk? I bet other members of the public were there too. At least we know they are affraid of the message Icke brings.

[grole]

I wonder if there were any other candidates at that talk? I bet other members of the public were there too. At least we know they are afraid of the message Icke brings.

Is it normal for candidates in a parliamentary election to attend each others' meetings? I would have thought not - but I don't know for sure.

Frankly I am not overly surprised David Davis doesn't want to enter into any sort of dialogue with Icke. Would anybody want to debate - which implies treating as an equal - with somebody labelled as a loony and a nutter by the media and, far more importantly, still seen as such by all but a small minority of the general population? Even these days Icke's name causes laughter and a dismissive response from ordinary people.

This is something Icke needs to seriously work on, as I have said. Otherwise all his shouting about the NWO etc may be a waste of time and effort. Which would be tragic on every level.

[qasrose]

David Davis doesn’t want a real debate on the Orwellian State – he wants a controlled one that’s only on his terms with safe people like Tony Benn and Bob Geldof.

The basis on which this by-election was called – to have an open debate on the Big Brother State – is a blatant misrepresentation of what is actually happening.

Today, David Icke attended the Hull Guildhall with a resident from the Haltemprice and Howden constituency, with tickets booked through the local Conservative Party in her name, to see the presentation of David Davis and Bob Geldof on ‘civil liberties’.

The resident was told, as was everyone else, that this was a public debate open to anyone so long as they had a ticket booked. The event was advertised as such on the David Davis website.

But as soon as the David Davis minders saw David Icke everything changed. Suddenly it was a ‘private’ event that only invited people could attend. This was an outrageous untruth.

David Icke, as someone who was warning about the coming Big Brother State before either of today’s speakers had even heard of it, simply wanted to listen to what they had to say, but was not allowed even though he had a ticket.

Davis said he called this by-election to have a public debate on these issues, yet won’t even allow the world’s most prolific writer on the subject to sit in an audience and listen to him. So Big Brother steps in to stop David Icke attending a meeting called to ‘challenge Big Brother’.

You couldn’t make it up.

That is a shame, Everyone is running scared of David Icke now.

[largejack]

If they organised this meeting its entirely within their rights to change it from public to private if they don't want Icke there.

You have to admit he doesn't exactly help the cause of civil liberties. If he gets involved the whole process will be subject to "guilt by association".



No they can't. Am I wrong, but isn't it is false advertising to suddenly change the terms of an item on the basis of how it was sold?:mad:

[thetruthseeker]

Well just when you think you have seen or heard everything then this, mind you I shoudn't be surpised. If the mass general public knew what went on here it would be blatantly obvious to any one with common sense that the secret elite are on the run and scared stiff of public debate because they know how much David knows about them and the agenda. I am dissapointed that David Davis has either been duped or is in full co-operation with the neo-cons who support big brother in private yet at the same time are giving the impression of opposing it in public, what a sham. Classic propaganda techniques in operation here. Because they probably know that most people wont be aware of these neo-cons private agenda so will be none the wiser and as for Bob Geldof, well all I can say is you are not even close to John Lennon in standing up for real principles and freedom if he was alive now he would probably call you an arsehole, you have been duped into the system as well, wake up man, can't you see you are being used to further the agenda.

[dangermouse]

Well just when you think you have seen or heard everything then this, mind you I shoudn't be surpised. If the mass general public knew what went on here it would be blatantly obvious to any one with common sense that the secret elite are on the run and scared stiff of public debate because they know how much David knows about them and the agenda. I am dissapointed that David Davis has either been duped or is in full co-operation with the neo-cons who support big brother in private yet at the same time are giving the impression of opposing it in public, what a sham. Classic propaganda techniques in operation here. Because they probably know that most people wont be aware of these neo-cons private agenda so will be none the wiser and as for Bob Geldof, well all I can say is you are not even close to John Lennon in standing up for real principles and freedom if he was alive now he would probably call you an arsehole, you have been duped into the system as well, wake up man, can't you see you are being used to further the agenda.


Well if you listen to David on the AJ show he has some major league NeoNaziCon friends supporting him.

[zarah]

Is it normal for candidates in a parliamentary election to attend each others' meetings? I would have thought not - but I don't know for sure.

Frankly I am not overly surprised David Davis doesn't want to enter into any sort of dialogue with Icke. Would anybody want to debate - which implies treating as an equal - with somebody labelled as a loony and a nutter by the media and, far more importantly, still seen as such by all but a small minority of the general population? Even these days Icke's name causes laughter and a dismissive response from ordinary people.

This is something Icke needs to seriously work on, as I have said. Otherwise all his shouting about the NWO etc may be a waste of time and effort. Which would be tragic on every level.


That reminds me of a conversation I had with my driving instructer, when I told him I wouldnt be able to have a driving lesson on 24th May..he asked why and I told him that I was going to see an all day lecture by David Icke..he was like...oh him who said he was the son of God?...Im like yeah but that was a long time ago and not what he meant...and he was like..yeah yeah I know...he talks a lot of sense...kinda messes it up with the alien cack..
...that opinion is generally what happens when I talk to people about David and I know 'ordinary people'...

I think the way David is going about things is the correct way..more and more people are waking up

[largejack]

That reminds me of a conversation I had with my driving instructer, when I told him I wouldnt be able to have a driving lesson on 24th May..he asked why and I told him that I was going to see an all day lecture by David Icke..he was like...oh him who said he was the son of God?...Im like yeah but that was a long time ago and not what he meant...and he was like..yeah yeah I know...he talks a lot of sense...kinda messes it up with the alien cack..
...that opinion is generally what happens when I talk to people about David and I know 'ordinary people'...

I think the way David is going about things is the correct way..more and more people are waking up


If Davis wants to go down that road, maybe Icke should bring along Robbie and Noel Gallagher. Not that I'm a great fan of celebrities.

[xdnax]

the revolution will NOT be televised

...you might be able to catch a bit of it on youtube tho :)

[coshh]

No they can't. Am I wrong, but isn't it is false advertising to suddenly change the terms of an item on the basis of how it was sold?:mad:Was\did this meeting (going to) cost money?

[paradox]

ATM it seem that everything we do is banned or made difficult.

I HATE SHEEP THEY DONT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING ONE.

[coshh]

ATM it seem that everything we do is banned or made difficult.

I HATE SHEEP THEY DONT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING ONE.You can hold your own meetings you know... you can even exclude anyone you like from them too.

[cosmicmonkey]

Is it normal for candidates in a parliamentary election to attend each others' meetings?

It's not really a 'normal' election is it?

The MP Davis has resigned and is standing again in order "to 'take a stand' and force a by-election on the issue of 'relentless erosion' of freedom in the wake of the Government's 42 day terror detention plan."

he's done it to trigger debate. - so he shouldn't shun it...

[Ian2day]

The election is an act of mass distraction. It is burying another story or issue of more importance. Something is afoot and it is not concerned with mere MP elections.

[mudboy]

The election is an act of mass distraction. It is burying another story or issue of more importance. Something is afoot and it is not concerned with mere MP elections.

Could be true, thats a popular tactic in the media.
But then again some politicians must have gone into politics with an infiltration intent??
I havent heard much in the media at all about what's being debated though??

[infinatelove]

I think the outcome of the David Davis "Big Brother debate-farce" is exactly what David Icke has set out to prove. The pratt has dug himself an even bigger hole than what was previously there. Job done, for now at least.

Surely this should prove to us all that our lives are being fed with the most profound lies. Wake up people of the world and take another look, this time though different eyes, then maybe those who support David Icke will be of the majority and not the minority. Then and only then will we be able to bring it all crashing down upon them.

I just hope that i'm still around to see it.

[grole]

maybe those who support David Icke will be of the majority and not the minority. Then and only then will we be able to bring it all crashing down upon them.

I just hope poor David Icke doesn't come crashing down! :(

He is not a man in the best of health and is pretty clearly full of stress and (understandable) anger.

The problem is that he is still stuck with the labels of 15-20 years ago and has not been able to shake them off. He is still not taken seriously by the vast majority of the populace - and that suits the 'naughty men' very well of course.....