DAVID ICKE - just an "USEFUL IDIOT" ???

[neomichi]

Hello,

I have read a lot of David`s books and seen a lot of his films. And I am believeing most what David says, even the "reptile-stuff".
BUT, there is one thing what I was wondering from the beginning and I can`t find a logical solution for it:
The question that drives me is:
WHY LET "THEY" DO DAVID, WHAT HE DOES?????????
Why don`t they even try to stop him ?
David has family, has young children, it would be easy for "them" to extort him.
So, why let they do David what he does?

Actually for me there is only one logical conclusion:

They have already tried to extort him. What do you think of that theorie:

One day "they" catched David and made a deal like that. Because he was already to popular to totally stop him, they made a deal like that:
Maybe they allowed him to write about some selected topics and allowed him to make money and get more popular with that topics but forbid him to search and speak for some specific topics, which could be dangerous for them, what ever that might be. Means, they allow David to speak about "quite harmless" stuff (in their eyes), where they don`t have to fear to get in conflict with "the world" but the same time "they" make the rules what David is not allowed to tell the world. And I am pretty sure, that things what David already has published is just the top of the iceberg.

I really have no other idea why "they" let him do his job.

There happened one thing to me a few weeks ago, which made me even more distrustfully.

I ordered some books from the German distributor and payed with paypal. And
what I saw then, shocked me quite a lot. The bank of David`s distributor is no less then the J.P. MORGAN BANK !!?!! If you search a little bit in the net you will find much info`s about that this bank is one bank of "THEM" !!!
There are so many banks in this world, but why especially the J.P. MORGAN BANK ??? O.K., some might say, that all banks are kind of corrupted, but especially the MORGAN Bank is definetely a bank of the ILLUMINATI and there would for sure better alternates for Davids finances. What makes me a little thoughtfully is the circumstance that the J.P. MORGAN BANK for sure stores
the names of the customers and passes them on...



David, thanks for your work, thanks that you help us open our eyes, BUT, something says to me, that is not ALL THE TRUTH !?! And I really hope that you are not only one of the "USEFUL IDOTS" for them, mayb even not to know completely about it.

ANY COMMENTS AND IDEAS FOR THAT TOPIC?

[heretic]

Maybe YOU are just a USELESS IDIOT that's even worse than being a USEFUL IDIOT. Nice first post by the way. Tosspot.

[december]

Can we have some moderation here to stop posts like this one ?

Maybe YOU are just a USELESS IDIOT that's even worse than being a USEFUL IDIOT. Nice first post by the way. Tosspot.

[heretic]

Can we have some moderation here to stop posts like this one ?

Maybe the mods could stop russian twats like you who live in the US and continually slag the country (US) off (but yet don't leave) from posting here too. That would be progressive.

[john white]

I ordered some books from the German distributor and payed with paypal. And
what I saw then, shocked me quite a lot. The bank of David`s distributor is no less then the J.P. MORGAN BANK !!?!! If you search a little bit in the net you will find much info`s about that this bank is one bank of "THEM" !!!
There are so many banks in this world, but why especially the J.P. MORGAN BANK ??? O.K., some might say, that all banks are kind of corrupted, but especially the MORGAN Bank is definetely a bank of the ILLUMINATI and there would for sure better alternates for Davids finances. What makes me a little thoughtfully is the circumstance that the J.P. MORGAN BANK for sure stores
the names of the customers and passes them on...



I've been having a CAPSLOCK!!!!! kind of day elsewhere today. Something in the water?

So a distributuion company that has nothing to do with Icke whatsoever apart from making a cut out of distributing books banks with a bank connected (like everything else) to the global money system and this is some kind of proof of something?

OK, fine, whatever works for you!

[pollock]

Yes, not a pleasant first reply to your imo very good first post, but maybe heretic didn't understand or someone did a pee pee on his sugar cube this morning!
I get what you mean though and I think that question has been mentioned before, it is something only David knows of course but I do not feel he is holding anything back, he might not have all the answers for me personally but he has helped me find the questions in many cases!
I think maybe "they" don't consider him as big a threat as they should, but what ever I am sure they are keeping a close eye on him!

And welcome, don't be afraid to express yourself we are not all as harsh as heretic!

Love
F

[heretic]

Yes, not a pleasant first reply to your imo very good first post, but maybe heretic didn't understand or someone did a pee pee on his sugar cube this morning!
I get what you mean though and I think that question has been mentioned before, it is something only David knows of course but I do not feel he is holding anything back, he might not have all the answers for me personally but he has helped me find the questions in many cases!
I think maybe "they" don't consider him as big a threat as they should, but what ever I am sure they are keeping a close eye on him!

And welcome, don't be afraid to express yourself we are not all as harsh as heretic!

Love
F

Spineless Jellyfish

[sean~infinte]

first of all everyone says "alright if icke is correct ouw comes they aint killed him yet" so if he actualy did die it would backfire look what happned to phil schnieder

he himself is being prodded by the anti-defamation league through charecter assasination and through media taking the piss out of him

and supposing he pratices what he preaches by saying creating ur own realities and not fearing anithing thus not being assasinated

just the tip of the iceberg??? apart from a secret soicety controling the wordl and who can shapeshift into reptiles who abuse chilren and drink there blood and try to disrupt oneness?

now il let ur braincells to try and figure out more answers to ur theorys

[pollock]

So a distributuion company that has nothing to do with Icke whatsoever apart from making a cut out of distributing books banks with a bank connected (like everything else) to the global money system and this is some kind of proof of something?

OK, fine, whatever works for you!

Maybe neomichi did not know that the distribution company had nothing to do with David, I know I sure don't know how these things work.
Anyway a bit of doubt and consideration is only healthy when it comes to believing in other people, if we dont explore our doubts they might end up ruling us, and what better place to go for answers about this than here?
Lets give this poor guy some room to breathe!:)


F

[pollock]

Spineless Jellyfish

How intelligent!

Love
F

[heretic]

How intelligent!

Love
F

Thank you very very much, I know! (Sucks, that you didn't think of it first)

[john white]

Maybe neomichi did not know that the distribution company had nothing to do with David, I know I sure don't know how these things work.
Anyway a bit of doubt and consideration is only healthy when it comes to believing in other people, if we dont explore our doubts they might end up ruling us, and what better place to go for answers about this than here?
Lets give this poor guy some room to breathe!:)


F

I admire your trusting nature

However CAPSLOCK!!!! is rarely a promising indicator...

(Jaded Lion coming out in me)

[pollock]

I admire your trusting nature

However CAPSLOCK!!!! is rarely a promising indicator...

(Jaded Lion coming out in me)

Thank you, and you are right about the capslock but I tend to want to give people just a little more han one post before I judge them !

F

[heretic]

Thank you, and you are right about the capslock but I tend to want to give people just a little more han one post before I judge them !

F

Judge them? Who are you to judge?

I let people build up a few decent posts or they are no better than somebody spamming viagra.

[john white]

Thank you, and you are right about the capslock but I tend to want to give people just a little more han one post before I judge them !

F

Is questioning judging?

It may be testing

In my experiance, people judge themselves in how they respond to a test

[john white]

Judge them? Who are you to judge?

I let people build up a few decent posts or they are no better than somebody spamming viagra.

Lets not be hasty

Some of the herbal alternatives are pretty good

[pollock]

Is questioning judging?

It may be testing

In my experiance, people judge themselves in how they respond to a test

I actually meant that I thought this was a bit judgemental:
Maybe YOU are just a USELESS IDIOT that's even worse than being a USEFUL IDIOT. Nice first post by the way. Tosspot.

:)
F

[john white]

I actually meant that I thought this was a bit jugemental:


:)
F

Oh THAT bit! yeah, a little "judgy" :)

(Plus, occassionally a touch of capslocking is justified)

[neomichi]

Hello again,

you are right, for my first post I really selected a hot topic.Sorry for the "useful idiot", but this was not meant to insult David, but to provoke the discussion. Sorry also for the capslock, but I am not very experienced in writing in forums. I just did it, because I wanted to know YOUR opinion about MY doubts. (Sorry for capslock again, what is the correct way to mark word in a forum?).
Unfortunatelly the discussion now is about MYSELF and not about the TOPIC, what I actually had planned. I thought, this might be the right forum to find enough open minded and criticismable people to bring in a hot topic like that. But are my doubts really SO FAR from the obvious? Sorry, but I wouldn`t be a fan of Davids books if I wasn`t a person, who not uses his OWN mind to think about that topics. I am NOT one of the people who just believe ANYTHING what others say, without thinking about it myself. For me it makes no difference if these people are politicians, the church or in this case, David Icke.

So PLEASE, stop discussing about ME and please help me with my original question:

"Why let they David do, what he does"? An other explanation could be, that he has protection from anyone. But exactly that is it, what I wanted to know from you guys out there, if you know about that.

Thanks

neomichi

[john white]

OK then neomichi

What do you think?

[neomichi]

OK then neomichi

What do you think?
I already explained what I think.

[king]

Maybe YOU are just a USELESS IDIOT that's even worse than being a USEFUL IDIOT. Nice first post by the way. Tosspot.



those are good questions -- so, why shoot the messenger?

[cleft_asunder]

Maybe YOU are just a USELESS IDIOT that's even worse than being a USEFUL IDIOT. Nice first post by the way. Tosspot.

The guy brought up thoughtful points, and then you call him a useful idiot for asking questions? Way to make fun of yourself. Saves me the trouble.

[cleft_asunder]

Hello,

I have read a lot of David`s books and seen a lot of his films. And I am believeing most what David says, even the "reptile-stuff".
BUT, there is one thing what I was wondering from the beginning and I can`t find a logical solution for it:
The question that drives me is:
WHY LET "THEY" DO DAVID, WHAT HE DOES?????????
Why don`t they even try to stop him ?
David has family, has young children, it would be easy for "them" to extort him.
So, why let they do David what he does?

Actually for me there is only one logical conclusion:

They have already tried to extort him. What do you think of that theorie:

One day "they" catched David and made a deal like that. Because he was already to popular to totally stop him, they made a deal like that:
Maybe they allowed him to write about some selected topics and allowed him to make money and get more popular with that topics but forbid him to search and speak for some specific topics, which could be dangerous for them, what ever that might be. Means, they allow David to speak about "quite harmless" stuff (in their eyes), where they don`t have to fear to get in conflict with "the world" but the same time "they" make the rules what David is not allowed to tell the world. And I am pretty sure, that things what David already has published is just the top of the iceberg.

I really have no other idea why "they" let him do his job.

There happened one thing to me a few weeks ago, which made me even more distrustfully.

I ordered some books from the German distributor and payed with paypal. And
what I saw then, shocked me quite a lot. The bank of David`s distributor is no less then the J.P. MORGAN BANK !!?!! If you search a little bit in the net you will find much info`s about that this bank is one bank of "THEM" !!!
There are so many banks in this world, but why especially the J.P. MORGAN BANK ??? O.K., some might say, that all banks are kind of corrupted, but especially the MORGAN Bank is definetely a bank of the ILLUMINATI and there would for sure better alternates for Davids finances. What makes me a little thoughtfully is the circumstance that the J.P. MORGAN BANK for sure stores
the names of the customers and passes them on...



David, thanks for your work, thanks that you help us open our eyes, BUT, something says to me, that is not ALL THE TRUTH !?! And I really hope that you are not only one of the "USEFUL IDOTS" for them, mayb even not to know completely about it.

ANY COMMENTS AND IDEAS FOR THAT TOPIC?

Okay, this isn't the first time this "issue" has been raised, and it won't be the last.

Although I could probably write a lot on this subject, I'll keep it short. David Icke, back in the 90's, when he first went on the Terry Wogan show, and first brought up that shape shifting reptiles control the earth, was ridiculed beyond belief. He couldn't walk into a bar without people noticing him. The Illuminati use humiliation to tear people apart. It is very effective and it's also a way to keep people in the sheep mentallity. So if you look at it from their standpoint, how could this one man become great? How can he gather a huge following over the years? So the Illuminati decided to use the ridicule factor to get rid of him quickly. They expected him to curl up into a ball in a corner, never to resurface.

Well it didn't quite work since that very method used against him was what empowered him. It empowered him to the point where he didn't give a damn what anyone though about his views, and he set himself free. At this time David probably knew about the law of attraction, and he --as he's said many times-- didn't allow the possibility of the Illuminati killing him or stopping him into his reality. I strongly believe this to be the ultimate point because LOA happens all the time in my reality, but the trick is to believe in it first, then to realise the obvious signs. But this is another topic.

Also, I strongly believe that Icke isn't some random figure who's spreading truth like the rest of them. But then again, who is random? Everything happends for a reason. I believe he's here to do exactly what he's doing, and the dark forces can't spot him. I believe he's being protected not only through his own LOA, but certain forces as well. When he took Ayahuasca in the rain forest, he tapped into his true self (God) and was talking to himself. In other words, God is working through Icke to bring about the awakening. But that is not to say that Icke and God are two different entities, or that Icke IS God. We are all the only God beyond the flesh suit and the false spirit called soul. We are living a nightmare of seperateness. But then again, even the multiverse is God. God is holding all of this in itself.

Icke is a guy who goes all the way in my opinion. How many people have come out into the public and said that Reptilians control the earth, and that the multiverse Matrix is nothing but a nightmare without purpose other than to sustain itself through fear? Therefore he is someone who goes farther than any other researcher. There is no doubt, in my mind, that he's telling us all he knows. I believe he may very well be the most significant person in the current awakening, but I don't want to belittle other researchers like Tsarion and Jones who do a very important part at waking people up. But Icke is apart from them in that he goes the deepest, and has the most impact.

As for the bank thing, I don't know anything about that field. All I know is that all banks are controlled by the Illuminati.

[thirdwave]

this thread has got a little heated, but I don't think its fare to close it...

I don't agree with the points my self but he has just aired his views and questions....

so lets get back to the subject and cut the insults....


IMO I can imagine allot of people asking this question about David...

but what they don't understand is David icke was as good as silenced for years due to the media crushing his name and making a mockery out of him..... its only in recent years his name has been taken more seriously...

although the elite have the power to wipe out who they like, they are also aware of the attention it can create and I think I David's case it would have been huge and would be now....

David is not the only one and I believe that the elite are aware that at some point the truth will come out as more and more Ickes will surface....

there plan is to slow it down....

I also don't think their main targets are people like David... they target more people with political or military knowledge that can directly scupper their plans...

the rest just need to be debunked and kept at arms length....

[neomichi]

Thanks cleft asunder for your extensive explanation. Yes, after own experiences with "psylo`s" in the past I think I understand what you mean. And I really hope that the "evil" behind all that reptiles have no force upon David. Probably there is no less then "Satan" itself behind all this, even when the believe to an "Evil" ist not very popular in these days. Let`s hope that David has "good power" enough to resist to "them", at least he seems to have charisma. I didn`t know about the Ayahuasca experience of David. Yes, that explains a lot to me. Unfortunately, even I had experiences myself in the past (including seeing "the Snake"), there is still too much doubt inside me. The most problem I have, is not to know WHAT or WHO I can thrust, and what is just an illusion or trick of "it".

[oceanwave]

it has been my observation that this reality is a free will reality and only consensus (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=consensus&searchmode=none)of the majority allows 'ideals' to forge ahead...

...therefore, there *has* to be an opposing 'force' (duality/polarity*), no matter how small

...perhaps, david is a useful but small idiot ;)...







*Polarity and Duality (http://www.cosmiclight.com/ofquasarsandquanta/polarity.htm)

[welfarewarrior]

agent mullet please come in agent mullet :D :D :D

[amadeus]

Greetings, and welcome to the forum neomichi.

I think your question is a good one. It's one of the first logical questions that comes to mind when you hear someone revealing "the secrets of the enemy". Why doesn't the bad guys just shut him up, for good?

Ok, I've noticed that sometimes, just occasionally, it's hard to get any answers around here. And it's frustrating getting comments about your personality, when you want real answers. That's why the most of us have joined - to exchange knowledge and thoughts, isn't it?

So I'll try to answer your question:
First of all it is hard to know for shure who of the messengers/researchers out there are for real.Some of them are definitely disinfo, in my opinion. Some are just very confused and some are just interested in making money.So after you've done "your homework" and checked the facts someone is presentig it could give you a clue to if this person is a hoax. And maybe you want to ask others what they think about this person. What it in the end comes down to is trusting your instincts. What kind of signals is this person giving? What about his bodylanguage? The voice and the eyes?(There are some excellent books about identifying a liar). Of course in the case of the master imitator, the psychopath, who has no trouble passing liedetectors, the identifying is much harder.

I personally trust David, based on the reasoning above. He may not be the wolrds top researcher, but he is sincere and a great speaker who people can relate to. The reason I think "they" don't wipe him out is the "order out of chaos"-type of reasoning. It's much better to have a "high priest" of conspiracy-theories who has a big audience, and then feed him with false information, thus confusing the "conspiracy community". And of course the best scenario for "them" would be if his person would be totally discredited, hence ridiculing all of his theories.A martyr would be much wose to "them". But I would assume that there's a limit to "their" patience. If he gets too close to the truth...who knows.

'Divide et impera!'

-amadeus-

[i_am]

As far as the banks go, it matters not what bank you use. THEY control them ALL. Anyway it would be the distributators bank, not David's.

As for why they don't bump him off, who knows!! Maybe they think he is useful as, to the majority, he is an idiot. Just go to a mainstream forum where the name David Icke comes up. They don't know anything about him, most don't even know who is. The rest either laugh at him or are hate filled.

His initial talking about reptilians set him up as being someone who was out there with the pixies. This is what most people refer to when the ridicule him and because of it, they do not listen to anything else he has to say. This is changing. We are pushing 5000 members on this forum. Most don't get involved but they are reading what we all say. They then talk to others. The truth movement is gaining momentum.

I think whomever said that they were more concerned with military personell, scientists, politicians and the like, who have direct proof of their games are more likely to be killed. They are people who would be believed by the public in general.

And also, yes, he is probably protected.

[oceanwave]

agent mullet please come in agent mullet :D :D :D

going undercover...

http://img10.imagepile.net/img10/83190shades-film.jpg

...with a cuppa...

[limelady]

I really have no other idea why "they" let him do his job.


Hello neomichi

Welcome to the David Icke forum.

Others have asked David why he is left alone by the Illuminati to reveal what he has learned from his research. David has responded that he is not affected by how they may respond because he creates his own reality.

This is something anyone can do when they understand the nature of our illusional existence.

LL

[thirdwave]

Hello neomichi

Welcome to the David Icke forum.

Others have asked David why he is left alone by the Illuminati to reveal what he has learned from his research. David has responded that he is not affected by how they may respond because he creates his own reality.

This is something anyone can do when they understand the nature of our illusional existence.

LL

and a good answer it is too! and very true....

we are the stars in our own movie.

[tinmenace]

WHY LET "THEY" DO DAVID, WHAT HE DOES?????????


Because very few people believed him, and it wasn't a threat. As long as David is made to look crazy with "lizard talk" they're safe.

But not for much longer....

[seanx]

Cleft asunder wrote:

Well it didn't quite work since that very method used against him was what empowered him. It empowered him to the point where he didn't give a damn what anyone though about his views, and he set himself free. At this time David probably knew about the law of attraction, and he --as he's said many times-- didn't allow the possibility of the Illuminati killing him or stopping him into his reality. I strongly believe this to be the ultimate point because LOA happens all the time in my reality, but the trick is to believe in it first, then to realise the obvious signs. But this is another topic.

Limelady wrote:

Others have asked David why he is left alone by the Illuminati to reveal what he has learned from his research. David has responded that he is not affected by how they may respond because he creates his own reality.
This is something anyone can do when they understand the nature of our illusional existence.


This is the real nub of the answer to your Question.

Read the second part of David Icke's Times of the Time Loop
where he goes in to the true nature of reality.

In a nutshell, if you can stop yourself from vibrating into their
reality frequency - they are F***** powerless to affect you.

Even though you're on the David Icke forum - a lot of people even here
seems totally resistant or, in some cases violently closed to this idea.

Yet, it is the central idea behind of all david Icke books and talks.

Good Question, though.

[earthseed]

Phil and Will were killed because they were insiders who came out and could prove that they worked where they worked. And saw what they saw. And what did they see? Secret gov, elite corruption, ET treaties us for tech. David is not an insider he is a journalist. Who does research and does interviews to fill his books. They know people are going to listen to ex-military intelligence and take it seriously. So that's why he isn't dead. But, they sure have made his life less than pleasant. If he is happy it's by his own will power. In the end these kinds of threads do nothing but further the idea that there is nothing we can do and no one we can turn to for information when we start to wake up. They are all us. That's great now go back to sleep and watch your tv there is nothing you can do. Don't think they won't come to these out there forums and spend all day making you believe that.

[truthcommission]

Even though you're on the David Icke forum - a lot of people even here seems totally resistant or, in some cases violently closed to this idea.
Please qualify this statement in light of your earlier contradictory comments.

All this 'resistance' and 'fighting' the enemy only empowers them.

As the old law goes: What you resists persists.

which seems quite incongruent in light of...

That comment is juvenile. You are hypnotized into the belief that there is only one reality.

and this comment which has resistance written all over it...

This is the same stuff that people like you always come up.

Perhaps the reason why you see so much violent opposition to the LOA in this forum is that you have too many preconceived notions (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31335&postcount=24) about people/events and/or you are creating that reality (projection) for yourself. Perhaps some of the more astute members of this forum have recognized that the we create our own reality concept has been hijacked and is being manipulated by those who shape our external reality.

Perhaps you could reread this post here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19632&postcount=71)


They maintain that the universe is governed by the principle that "like attracts like" and that our thoughts are like magnets: Positive thoughts attract positive events and negative thoughts attract negative events. Of course, magnets do exactly the opposite -- positively charged magnets attract negatively charged particles -- and the rest of "The Secret" (aka LOA) has a similar relationship to the truth.

[father ted]

Maybe neomichi did not know that the distribution company had nothing to do with David, I know I sure don't know how these things work.
Anyway a bit of doubt and consideration is only healthy when it comes to believing in other people, if we dont explore our doubts they might end up ruling us, and what better place to go for answers about this than here?
Lets give this poor guy some room to breathe!:)


F

I agree, but to add, any doubt is healthy as long as you are sensible and reasonable about it.

There's nothing wrong with what neomichi has brought up.

To answer one of your questions neomichi, Icke mentioned that he is being protected and helped, by spirits or call them whatever you like. He says something like; we all have these helpers, you've just gotta let them in.

I feel that this might be true, because of my own experiences, though I haven't heard them (spirits or higher self) talk to me as directly as Icke described, once on a mushroom trip and if you count dreams though.

[turquoisefyre]

Hello neomichi

Welcome to the David Icke forum.

Others have asked David why he is left alone by the Illuminati to reveal what he has learned from his research. David has responded that he is not affected by how they may respond because he creates his own reality.

This is something anyone can do when they understand the nature of our illusional existence.

LL


http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i77/jervicb/David_Icke_is_your_friend.jpg

i agree with LL. i mean, i have told my mates who i've tried to warn about the NWO, that to keep an open mind because you just never know if you could play into something else's plans. good thread neomichi. i think folks must question everything.

but i will also add, i think we are all here to simply break free from this matrix.
i also believe, there are some "resistance fighters" in the "establishment", and some "establishment" in the "resistance fighters". it's all about staying aware, really...

[seanx]

Truthcommision wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by seanx
Even though you're on the David Icke forum - a lot of people even here seems totally resistant or, in some cases violently closed to this idea.

Please qualify this statement in light of your earlier contradictory comments.


Quote:
Originally Posted by seanx
All this 'resistance' and 'fighting' the enemy only empowers them.

As the old law goes: What you resists persists.

which seems quite incongruent in light of...


Quote:
Originally Posted by seanx
That comment is juvenile. You are hypnotized into the belief that there is only one reality.

Sorry, mate you have totally lost me.

It's clear that a lot of people have resistence to this idea that is
behind D.I. philosophy.

You obviously do.

Which is fine. So do I. if you think about this idea and it's full
implications, it's absolutely normal to have doubts about it.

Because if this idea is true - and more and more of us ( a critical mass)
can actually demonstrate it ( not just theorize about it) - it would
change very aspect of life. The implications are incredible.

For example, victimhood and powerlessness would to be a thing of
the past. Medicine would be transformed.

We would also have to stop blaming NWO or all the 'bad people' for
what happens in the world. it is a cop-out.

This is the hardest thing to accept. The bad people are simply all
OUR hidden fears, hates, violence and self -hatred manifested as these
people. They literally are us.

LOOK, if we got all the Bushes, Kissingers and all the families of the
elite - the 'bad guys' in to one room and blew them up - it wouldn't
change anything.

Because if our consciousness or beliefs didn't change - in a little while
a NEW elite would emerge.

The problem is within each of us ..and not out there.

[infinitely free]

Icke is a guy who goes all the way in my opinion. How many people have come out into the public and said that Reptilians control the earth, and that the multiverse Matrix is nothing but a nightmare without purpose other than to sustain itself through fear? Therefore he is someone who goes farther than any other researcher. There is no doubt, in my mind, that he's telling us all he knows. I believe he may very well be the most significant person in the current awakening, but I don't want to belittle other researchers like Tsarion and Jones who do a very important part at waking people up. But Icke is apart from them in that he goes the deepest, and has the most impact.


:cool:

Yes, I quite agree with you!

[infinitely free]

and a good answer it is too! and very true....

we are the stars in our own movie.

Well
it does seem to be the CASE! :D

[nickatnoon61]

The problem is within each of us ..and not out there.


Yes SEANX,I think/feel this is the crux of it all! WHEN WE STOP VIBRATING IN THIS LOWER ENERGY FORM, we transcend anything/anyone in it! A good example would be to try to harm an angel. We just can't do it because they are out of our vibrational reach! We have to ascend to that level....then we can kick their arses!!!! :D:eek:

[phoebe]

Maybe YOU are just a USELESS IDIOT that's even worse than being a USEFUL IDIOT. Nice first post by the way. Tosspot.

This is how you address people who ask pertinent questions?
Doesn't David Icke (obviously your guru) promote the idea of questioning everything?
I think you're very rude.
And it seems to me...
you don't have an answer to the questions posed by the OP.

[phoebe]

Hello,

I have read a lot of David`s books and seen a lot of his films. And I am believeing most what David says, even the "reptile-stuff".
BUT, there is one thing what I was wondering from the beginning and I can`t find a logical solution for it:
The question that drives me is:
WHY LET "THEY" DO DAVID, WHAT HE DOES?????????
Why don`t they even try to stop him ?
David has family, has young children, it would be easy for "them" to extort him.
So, why let they do David what he does?

Actually for me there is only one logical conclusion:

They have already tried to extort him. What do you think of that theorie:

One day "they" catched David and made a deal like that. Because he was already to popular to totally stop him, they made a deal like that:
Maybe they allowed him to write about some selected topics and allowed him to make money and get more popular with that topics but forbid him to search and speak for some specific topics, which could be dangerous for them, what ever that might be. Means, they allow David to speak about "quite harmless" stuff (in their eyes), where they don`t have to fear to get in conflict with "the world" but the same time "they" make the rules what David is not allowed to tell the world. And I am pretty sure, that things what David already has published is just the top of the iceberg.

I really have no other idea why "they" let him do his job.

There happened one thing to me a few weeks ago, which made me even more distrustfully.

I ordered some books from the German distributor and payed with paypal. And
what I saw then, shocked me quite a lot. The bank of David`s distributor is no less then the J.P. MORGAN BANK !!?!! If you search a little bit in the net you will find much info`s about that this bank is one bank of "THEM" !!!
There are so many banks in this world, but why especially the J.P. MORGAN BANK ??? O.K., some might say, that all banks are kind of corrupted, but especially the MORGAN Bank is definetely a bank of the ILLUMINATI and there would for sure better alternates for Davids finances. What makes me a little thoughtfully is the circumstance that the J.P. MORGAN BANK for sure stores
the names of the customers and passes them on...



David, thanks for your work, thanks that you help us open our eyes, BUT, something says to me, that is not ALL THE TRUTH !?! And I really hope that you are not only one of the "USEFUL IDOTS" for them, mayb even not to know completely about it.

ANY COMMENTS AND IDEAS FOR THAT TOPIC?

Hello neomichi
:)


I think he does what he does with good intent but is manipulated.
Especially regarding the reptilian stuff.
Basically, those factions who believe they are in control use people like David Icke in much the same way as they use everybody else, popstars, politicians, actors etc.
'They' don't really care if you read conspiracy books, because 99% of it is complete fabrication.
The element of truth they do contain is rendered completely useless by the 99% disinfo.
Basically you will never know the truth about these political machinations.
But the quest is endless...
You could waste your entire lifetime trying to figure out the truth regarding the conspiracy.
But you never will find it.
The conspiracy scene is much like any other scene.
Designed to keep you busy, searching for external answers to external problems.
Something you can never find...
To find truth, you must look within.

"Your vision will become clear only when you look into your heart. Who looks outside, dreams. Who looks inside, awakens." CG JUNG

[joe dolan]

quote "The question that drives me is:
WHY LET "THEY" DO DAVID, WHAT HE DOES?????????"

in case you missed what he said....

he will not give it attention!!! THEREFORE IT CANNOT MANIFEST!!!

ickey right again.

[cleft_asunder]

Spineless Jellyfish

Yeah it takes a lot of balls to insult people on the internet. Way to go. You're a man. Except you're really a dork.

[intuition]

Lets be honest theres no real evidence for reptiles.Look in the back of his last book and he was trying to link someone with d.i.d. who has multiple personalitys ( which ive had) to shapshifting and he said -hes the proof- Sorry but thats when he lost alot of credibility with me.