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december
19-04-2007, 07:47 PM
Why did David Icke begin to write about NWO?
Was there a reason?
And when did he decided to do this research?
john white
19-04-2007, 08:12 PM
deja vu
http://illusionsforum.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?t=1956&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
thirdwave
19-04-2007, 11:53 PM
Why did David Icke begin to write about NWO?
Was there a reason?
And when did he decided to do this research?
he says that when he had a series of spiritual experiences he had an urge to research the history of our Society and the way our world has been built, he saw that what we are taught is very different to other info out there....he came across more info that got him deeper and deeper into the subject... along with his spiritual awakening it inspired him to dedicate his life to getting this info out and putting his views on the way the world is out there...
this is pretty much how he says it....
how does anyone get into something?.... something happens that brings it to your attention... and become more and more attracted to it... get deeper into it.... its how all of us get into anything...
limelady
20-04-2007, 12:17 AM
deja vu
http://illusionsforum.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?t=1956&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Hi JW!!!
Gee your moderators over there at Illusions have very saggy avatars!!!! :eek:
Hi December
To answer your question? It seems some people are just born with a mission to accomplish in this life, and it seems David Icke is one of these people. After a life-changing event, he decided to spend his time researching and revealing what he has learnt about the Illuminati/NWO for the benefit of others.
Other people have a mission in life to paint beautiful pictures for the benefit of others.
cleft_asunder
20-04-2007, 01:00 AM
he says that when he had a series of spiritual experiences he had an urge to research the history of our Society and the way our world has been built, he saw that what we are taught is very different to other info out there....he came across more info that got him deeper and deeper into the subject... along with his spiritual awakening it inspired him to dedicate his life to getting this info out and putting his views on the way the world is out there...
this is pretty much how he says it....
how does anyone get into something?.... something happens that brings it to your attention... and become more and more attracted to it... get deeper into it.... its how all of us get into anything...
Dude you're a sucker thirdwave. You think he's genuinly curious? He probably has a list of hot topics that he posts in cycles.
something
20-04-2007, 01:08 AM
how does anyone get into something?....
feed me lots of beer.
Why did David Icke begin to write about NWO?
Ummmm! Because he can ? :)
And when did he decided to do this research?
I have done much research on this subject (yes, long prior to ever hearing of David Icke) and I would love to put it all in a book. I do not have the time or the burning desire to find the time at the moment. When did I decide to do research? When I came across something that piqued my curiosity enough to go looking further. It is fascinating. The more you learn, the more you seek.
I cannot answer for David but what does it matter why or how or when. He just did! and if you have read his books, he does explain how he got started on his mission.
It would appear that he has found his mission in life, something that most of us are still pondering.
i am all i am
20-04-2007, 09:11 AM
Ummmm! Because he can ?
I have done much research on this subject (yes, long prior to ever hearing of David Icke) and I would love to put it all in a book. I do not have the time or the burning desire to find the time at the moment. When did I decide to do research? When I came across something that piqued my curiosity enough to go looking further. It is fascinating. The more you learn, the more you seek.
I cannot answer for David but what does it matter why or how or when. He just did! and if you have read his books, he does explain how he got started on his mission.
BRILLIANT post I am.
Every question has an answer and every answer has a question. So, I would pose the question to your perfect answer as, "Why ask a question about David's thoughts, words and actions when it can only be answered with speculation ???".
With LOVE.
BRILLIANT post I am.
With LOVE.
Awwwww! Shucks! Shuffles toe in dirt. ta :p
december
21-04-2007, 10:41 PM
he says that when he had a series of spiritual experiences he had an urge to research the history of our Society and the way our world has been built, he saw that what we are taught is very different to other info out there....he came across more info that got him deeper and deeper into the subject... along with his spiritual awakening it inspired him to dedicate his life to getting this info out and putting his views on the way the world is out there...
this is pretty much how he says it....
how does anyone get into something?.... something happens that brings it to your attention... and become more and more attracted to it... get deeper into it.... its how all of us get into anything...
This sort of explanation is for the teenagers.
What does spiritual awakening has to do with making ridiculous claims about Nazi millitary base in Antarctica which "is still in operation TODAY"?
See The Biggest Secret.
limelady
21-04-2007, 10:58 PM
This sort of explanation is for the teenagers.
What does spiritual awakening has to do with making ridiculous claims about Nazi millitary base in Antarctica which "is still in operation TODAY"?
See The Biggest Secret.
I think thirdwave's response was more than you deserved considering the juvenile "troll-like" tone of most of your questions.
december
21-04-2007, 11:05 PM
I think thirdwave's response was more than you deserved considering the juvenile "troll-like" tone of most of your questions.
Limelady, do you have ANYTHING to say about the subject?
If you don't, than stop trolling...
OK?
december
13-05-2007, 01:44 AM
he says that when he had a series of spiritual experiences he had an urge to research the history of our Society and the way our world has been built, he saw that what we are taught is very different to other info out there....he came across more info that got him deeper and deeper into the subject... along with his spiritual awakening it inspired him to dedicate his life to getting this info out and putting his views on the way the world is out there...
this is pretty much how he says it....
how does anyone get into something?.... something happens that brings it to your attention... and become more and more attracted to it... get deeper into it.... its how all of us get into anything...
thirdwave, are you talking about his trip to Peru in 1991?
john white
13-05-2007, 01:51 AM
You bumped this pile?
Well its been more than two weeks, maybe you've had time to work out why you reckon Icke started talking about the NWO?
december
13-05-2007, 01:59 AM
You bumped this pile?
Well its been more than two weeks, maybe you've had time to work out why you reckon Icke started talking about the NWO?
Two weeks? Maybe....
I don't spend hours and hours in the Internet.
What's your point, john white?
john white
13-05-2007, 02:03 AM
simple: what's yours?
Nice of you to show some thinking of your own for once...
december
13-05-2007, 02:09 AM
simple: what's yours?
Nice of you to show some thinking of your own for once...
Dude, what's your problem?
john white
13-05-2007, 02:17 AM
Curiosity of course
a fine naked fellow
13-05-2007, 02:23 AM
that’s an awesome problem :)
john white
13-05-2007, 02:39 AM
that’s an awesome problem :)
If I'm going to manifest one, I'm going to make it worthwhile :)
midwich cuckoo
13-05-2007, 02:47 AM
December (or is it November?), why don't you ask David himself about the Nazi base in Antartica?.
None of us have the answer you so desperately seek, only David knows where he got the info from.
december
13-05-2007, 02:47 AM
Anyway...
I am sure many people did read Icke's Tales from the Time Loop, and if you still have the book than I want you to check what David Icke says on pages 16 and 19 of the book.
I found something pretty suspicious in these chapters regarding his spontaneous trip to Peru.
I don't want to say what exactly I find suspicious...
I want people to read and tell what they think...
Just read it. Pages 16 and 19.
http://www.phrasebase.com/images/map_Peru.gif
john white
13-05-2007, 02:59 AM
His proofreader missed a "z"?
seanx
13-05-2007, 04:08 AM
Forget about all those small details.
The most important part - in fact the only important part of Tales of
the time Loop is the last few chapters.
It is the idea: Reality is an illlusion and we can create any reality
we want.
Now the only challenge this century is; Can we demonstrate that?
NOT TALK ABOUT IT BUT demonstrate that?????
All the rest is shit.
Anders Lindman
13-05-2007, 05:45 AM
Why did David Icke begin to write about NWO?
Was there a reason?
And when did he decided to do this research?
When the organizations and companies David had worked for thought of him as having gone mad, he wanted to show that they were wrong, and so began to find evidence for that yes, not only were they wrong here and there, there were many things wrong with even the core and history of the media, politics, business, banking etc. That's my guess. :cool:
december
13-05-2007, 05:55 AM
When the organizations and companies David had worked for thought of him as having gone mad, he wanted to show that they were wrong, and so began to find evidence for that yes, not only were they wrong here and there, there were many things wrong with even the core and history of the media, politics, business, banking etc. That's my guess. :cool:
Does it mean that David Icke have been telling these "organizations and companies" about the "reptilian agenda" and their symbolism?
If answer is YES, than it does NOT really make sense, because, as I understand it correctly, Icke began his quest and spiritual awakening AFTER his trip to Peru.
Do you have Tales from the Time Loop, Anders Lindman?
It was a gradual awakening/learning curve december, not a sudden influx of information from one moment.
The trip to Peru was one of many different things that brought him to where he is today.
The reason? A series of syncronised events and realisations that made him research, and dig deeper. Much like many of us here experience on a daily basis.
What is it you think december? Is there something you wish to share?
Does this thread have a point?
You have been told by many people that WE CANNOT ANSWER FOR DAVID ICKE!!
Anything any of us say is just conjecture. If you have a problem with any of David's writings, why don't you ask him, as he is the only one who can answer you.
Go to the website, click on contact us and ask away. We were told at the beginning that David would not be taking part in this forum so why do you keep making points that only he can address?
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3801/chat60lo9.gif
Anders Lindman
13-05-2007, 06:09 AM
Does it mean that David Icke have been telling these "organizations and companies" about the "reptilian agenda" and their symbolism?
If answer is YES, than it does NOT really make sense, because, as I understand it correctly, Icke began his quest and spiritual awakening AFTER his trip to Peru.
Do you have Tales from the Time Loop, Anders Lindman?
In my estimation, from a mainstream point of view, the trip to Peru had many signs of what psychologists would call a mental illness. From a New Age perspective, his Kundalini had just awakened. Regardless of how we label it, it was a shift in how David experienced the world. And only after this initial life-changing experience did David's ordinary logical thinking begin to work as normal again, but then the label 'mad' has already been stuck on him, and from that point David wanted to show them that they were wrong.
I only have his latest book.
december
13-05-2007, 06:40 AM
It was a gradual awakening/learning curve december, not a sudden influx of information from one moment.
The trip to Peru was one of many different things that brought him to where he is today.
But in Tales from the Time Loop (pages 16 and 19) David Icke says that when he was in England in 1991 he saw and heard the word "Peru" everywhere.
And he didn't know why...
And also he felt like he HAD TO GO to Peru, and again - he did not know why he had that feeling.
So, it seems to me as he was mind controlled at that time.
Besides, it is strange that while in Peru - the country which he knew NOTHING about before the trip (according to Icke) - he met people who were ready to help... :rolleyes: :cool:
Who was that blond lady that spoke no English?
Who was that guy who met Icke at the Lima airport?
What if the whole thing (the trip to Peru) was a CIA Jonestown in Guyana type of operation?
Anders Lindman
13-05-2007, 07:05 AM
But in Tales from the Time Loop (pages 16 and 19) David Icke says that when he was in England in 1991 he saw and heard the word "Peru" everywhere.
And he didn't know why...
And also he felt like he HAD TO GO to Peru, and again - he did not know why he had that feeling.
So, it seems to me as he was mind controlled at that time.
Besides, it is strange that while in Peru - the country which he knew NOTHING about before the trip (according to Icke) - he met people who were ready to help... :rolleyes: :cool:
Who was that blond lady that spoke no English?
Who was that guy who met Icke at the Lima airport?
What if the whole thing (the trip to Peru) was a CIA Jonestown in Guyana type of operation?
To speculate some, consider this scenario: The power elite noticed that David had the talents and abilities to help them expose themselves, which would help them get rid of a huge burden of maintaining and managing their immensely heavy web of lies that had begun to become almost unmanageable. Using drugs or other means, they could get David's mind to become a bit unstable and thus more susceptible to outside manipulation. Then they started to put subliminals here and there for him to experience, such as subtle hints about 'Peru'. After drugs and subliminal manipulation etc, David would start behaving in ways the public would deem 'mad'. This would make David wanting to prove that he was not mad, and the next step in the manipulation could commence, which included feeding David with subliminals about conspiracy information, and David would experience something like: "Information about the hidden agenda just came into my life in vast amounts at just the right moments". He he. :D
john white
13-05-2007, 09:12 AM
But in Tales from the Time Loop (pages 16 and 19) David Icke says that when he was in England in 1991 he saw and heard the word "Peru" everywhere.
And he didn't know why...
And also he felt like he HAD TO GO to Peru, and again - he did not know why he had that feeling.
So, it seems to me as he was mind controlled at that time.
Besides, it is strange that while in Peru - the country which he knew NOTHING about before the trip (according to Icke) - he met people who were ready to help... :rolleyes: :cool:
Who was that blond lady that spoke no English?
Who was that guy who met Icke at the Lima airport?
What if the whole thing (the trip to Peru) was a CIA Jonestown in Guyana type of operation?
= "what if fear rules my life?"
hagbard_celine
13-05-2007, 11:25 AM
This sort of explanation is for the teenagers.
What does spiritual awakening has to do with making ridiculous claims about Nazi millitary base in Antarctica which "is still in operation TODAY"?
See The Biggest Secret.
Everything. Exposing secrecy and injustice is the ultimate spiritual quest in my book. This is the essence of ther Age of Aquarius. Aquarian energy is all about the revellation of things hidden. This is the true meaning of the word "Apocalypse". It's supposed to mean the end of the world and universal destruction. It doesn't; it just means: exposure of truth, revellation, unveiling.
The Antarctic base is actually real and David is just one of those who've striven to discover it. I've met someone who's seen it.
hagbard_celine
13-05-2007, 11:30 AM
It was a gradual awakening/learning curve december, not a sudden influx of information from one moment.
The trip to Peru was one of many different things that brought him to where he is today.
The reason? A series of syncronised events and realisations that made him research, and dig deeper. Much like many of us here experience on a daily basis.
What is it you think december? Is there something you wish to share?
That's right. It's interesting to read through his prolific oevre of books and follow the journey he went on through all its stages. From the very start David was driven to awaken the world to the truth of Spritual reality. By the time he got to "The Robots Rebellion" he had started gathering information on the actual nature of the Illuminati and the basis of their power.
hagbard_celine
13-05-2007, 11:33 AM
In my estimation, from a mainstream point of view, the trip to Peru had many signs of what psychologists would call a mental illness.
Psychologists :mad: make mental illnesses out of anything! They are the CIA of the Conformist Regime.
Don't get me started on that one!
zircon
13-05-2007, 11:58 AM
The way I see it, certain sychronised events and meaningful paths, that can guide us through a "voyage of dicovery" emerge immediately one unlocks oneself from the power matrix and sees through the matrix of fear. Our "reality" also contains supposed paths and meanings, but they work only to hold our minds prisoner. How do we tell the difference? simple - by the astral perception of the controlling forces, and by whether love is present and fear is absent. We can do this analysis better by connecting with both possibilities within ourselves, in silence and humility. Another thing to consider is that David's path is not necessarily another's. We don't have to disbelieve something just because we have not followed the same path to it. We all have different routes to the truth, but the truth is one.
But in Tales from the Time Loop (pages 16 and 19) David Icke says that when he was in England in 1991 he saw and heard the word "Peru" everywhere.
And he didn't know why...
And also he felt like he HAD TO GO to Peru, and again - he did not know why he had that feeling.
So, it seems to me as he was mind controlled at that time.
Besides, it is strange that while in Peru - the country which he knew NOTHING about before the trip (according to Icke) - he met people who were ready to help... :rolleyes: :cool:
Who was that blond lady that spoke no English?
Who was that guy who met Icke at the Lima airport?
What if the whole thing (the trip to Peru) was a CIA Jonestown in Guyana type of operation?
That's an interesting theory. Although I think it's totally paranoid and without foundation.
Anders Lindman
13-05-2007, 02:22 PM
Psychologists :mad: make mental illnesses out of anything! They are the CIA of the Conformist Regime.
Don't get me started on that one!
Psychologists look at the world, at least as their public official stance, through mainstream glasses. From that perspective many of their diagoses may be valid. However, the BIG problem is that the mainstream view ITSELF in many cases in my opinion is far from correct. Not only in psychology. In medicine as a whole, dubious interests seem to be lurking in every corner. Anyone watching this video (called HIV-AIDS Fact Or Fraud) will most definitely begin to question the validity of the medical mainstream view:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916
december
13-05-2007, 08:06 PM
That's an interesting theory. Although I think it's totally paranoid and without foundation.
The key words are - "it's totally paranoid and without foundation".
:D
sean, you sound just like David Icke critics who refuse to look at his information.
The key words are - "it's totally paranoid and without foundation".
:D
sean, you sound just like David Icke critics who refuse to look at his information.
It seems to me that you are not seeking answers to any legitimate questions, but rather trying to make points veiled in "questions". It'd be easier to discus if you made a point and then let others respond to it.
So your point is that you think David Icke is a government agent? If that's the case, why not simply state it and your reasons for reaching this conclusion?...
hagbard_celine
13-05-2007, 09:59 PM
Psychologists look at the world, at least as their public official stance, through mainstream glasses. From that perspective many of their diagoses may be valid. However, the BIG problem is that the mainstream view ITSELF in many cases in my opinion is far from correct. Not only in psychology. In medicine as a whole, dubious interests seem to be lurking in every corner. Anyone watching this video (called HIV-AIDS Fact Or Fraud) will most definitely begin to question the validity of the medical mainstream view:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916
Thanks, Anders, but the vid doesn't want to start.
Anders Lindman
13-05-2007, 10:11 PM
Thanks, Anders, but the vid doesn't want to start.
I tested it just a while ago and it worked fine. Now that I tested it again, the screen said: "This video is currently not available. Please try again later." Then I tried again and it worked. Probably just a temporary problem.
december
13-05-2007, 11:03 PM
So your point is that you think David Icke is a government agent? If that's the case, why not simply state it and your reasons for reaching this conclusion?...
No, sean. This is not my point. :)
I did not say that "David Icke is a government agent".
You know, sean, it seems to me that you do NOT really read my posts...
OK....
Let me ask you, sean, some specific questions... :)
FIRST QUESTION - I think it is normal to hear and see the word Peru if you live in Ecuador, Colombia or Brazil. And it is pretty normal to hear and see the word France if you live in UK.
Correct?
Well... but does it seem to you, sean, stange that David Icke "saw and heard the word "Peru" everywhere" while living in England?
See Tales from the Time Loop page 16.
No, not really. When he says he saw and heard the word peru everywhere, how literally, exactly, are you taking that?
masonic3
13-05-2007, 11:08 PM
I just hope you all get locked up like a bunch of fucking insane miss fit drop outs!
I like to come on here because i can rip the shit out of you so easy, your all drop out scum!!
Except: thedame, Montag,
I don't really give a fuck about this forum and only come on here when I “Mod” my forums which are to do with freemasonry, your all welcome to join if you want so I can ban you all because I do not believe in all this "Left wing Hippy Bull" you fuck me off I will ban you.
You all think your so wise and know what your talking about, but really you all follow the “Teaching” of a nut drunk who left his wife for his PA. who gets laughed at everywhere he goes.
One day you will wake up from this bull shit and realise what a stupid idea it was.
Good luck.
Clearly masonic3 is here to spam these forums, and as such i've left his comment on for others to see.
zircon
13-05-2007, 11:38 PM
I for one am not a dropout, a hippy, scum or any of the terms of abuse that masonic3 feels so at liberty to bandy about, and have found this forum to be well-informed, interesting and serious, with very few exceptions.
Whoever you are, please judge yourself before judging others.
pollock
13-05-2007, 11:39 PM
Clearly masonic3 is here to spam these forums, and as such i've left his comment on for others to see.
Yes all 30 of them:D
He is a real wiz at the copy and paste trick!
Copied himself right out of here it seems!
thanks sean
F
lottie
13-05-2007, 11:44 PM
Im sure he'll be back- if its not under the same name he'll be slithering about under the guise of someone else for months on end while we sit back and be 'respect his difference of opinion' and nasty comments :rolleyes:
pollock
13-05-2007, 11:49 PM
Im sure he'll be back- if its not under the same name he'll be slithering about under the guise of someone else for months on end while we sit back and be 'respect his difference of opinion' and nasty comments :rolleyes:
Yes, a boring waste of valuable time that!
Love
F
i am all i am
13-05-2007, 11:49 PM
Clearly masonic3 is here to spam these forums, and as such i've left his comment on for others to see.
http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Creatures_and_Cartoons/Cartoon_Characters/Mask_2.gif
Who is it behind the mask ???
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5515/trollpe8.gif
Yep, that about sums it up !!!
With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif
auron
13-05-2007, 11:53 PM
I for one am not a dropout, a hippy, scum
I am a dropout hippy/scum!
Well, that's according to others i frequently come into contact with in daily life. It makes me smile :) "dropout hippy scum" such a nice ring to it, don't you agree?
I think i am going to write a song with that title. Thank you very much for the idea Masonic3.
I love you.
Dropout Hippy Scum :)
midwich cuckoo
14-05-2007, 12:58 AM
I don't really give a fuck about this forum and only come on here when I “Mod” my forums
He says with 377 posts. ;)
No need to get your knickers in a twist masonic wanabee.
And yes I am a dropout hippy/scum too. :) Get over it!.
zircon
14-05-2007, 08:21 AM
He says with 377 posts. ;)
No need to get your knickers in a twist masonic wanabee.
And yes I am a dropout hippy/scum too. :)
Nice one. Not a problem. what i didn't like was the judgmental tone of the comment, about people on this forum.
Love to all