Are You Prepared to DIE?

[truthcommission]

A recent comment in this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31092&postcount=31) made my blood boil. It made me think about the harassment, psychic abuse/manipulation, character assassinations and actual assassinations many truth seekers and whistleblowers have experienced to bring out the truth.

It also reminded me of a comment from Michael Tsarion in which he said about certain people who dabble with conspiracies, hidden symbolism and such but once it gets too heavy they're GONE. Its almost like certain forum members treat much of what is being discussed here the same way as watching an episode of The X Files or worse The Simpsons!

For them it is all just a little bit of whimsy. They passively consume and then retreat back into their cozy little 3 dimensional world. They don't ever need to worry about being spied on (even though they are) or getting too close to the truth and being killed (although that might happen).

So my question is...

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man or protect your loved ones?

[aznality]

I'm not exactly sure if we should have dying thoughts right now. LOL. But if we are going to do something big to help humanity, maybe that is something we should have in mind.

As for the microchipping issue, this topic reminds me a lot of it. I believe to avoid it, all of us shouldn't take the easier way out. Sometimes I am like, I'd rather choose death over microchip. But that just means there are less of us to fight for the campaign to stop microchips. So I keep telling myself to not consider death as an option.

[lightbeing]

But we can't die, as David says we are infinite consciousness. Deep down for years before I followed Davids work, I new this to be the case:)
Maybe rename the thead, 'Are you prepared to live how we are supposed to live'..............

[aznality]

^That's true too. Death, may not be a bad choice after all. But I still want to live my life on Earth for as long as possible before I depart to the new world. =)

[deca]

I will stand up and fight this more people need to stand up and fight this.
there more of us then them.remember bugs life.fuck u`m they know that and trying to condition us that we are weak.We will show them how strong we are.They are the weak.We are the many.

[turquoisefyre]

i've been fed up with what i've had to live with for a very long time now, like i'm sure quite a few folks on here.

and, quite frankly, i have thought about getting something that could make my death quick and painless if all turns out for the utter worst. and i have been through hell and back a few times, thank you very much. but I decided against that as that, I feel, is utterly cowardly. if I have to, i'll most definately sacrifice my last breath in resistance.

but, i've realized that me having fun and screwing over the NWO in whatever way I can, really does piss off the establishment because people just has NO IDEA how weak they really are!!"they" just have us by the soft spots... and there is always a way to fight back...and win. i belive we are here on a personal mission, each of our lives uniquely taylored to what we intended to experince. you get what you focus on. i'm not preaching, just trying to remind myself...

so, i'll vote for lightbeing's suggestion:'Are you prepared to live how we are supposed to live'..............

[purpledream]

A recent comment in this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31092&postcount=31) made my blood boil. It made me think about the harassment, psychic abuse/manipulation, character assassinations and actual assassinations many truth seekers and whistleblowers have experienced to bring out the truth.

It also reminded me of a comment from Michael Tsarion in which he said about certain people who dabble with conspiracies, hidden symbolism and such but once it gets too heavy they're GONE. Its almost like certain forum members treat much of what is being discussed here the same way as watching an episode of The X Files or worse The Simpsons!

For them it is all just a little bit of whimsy. They passively consume and then retreat back into their cozy little 3 dimensional world. They don't ever need to worry about being spied on (even though they are) or getting too close to the truth and being killed (although that might happen).

So my question is...

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man or protect your loved ones?

This is beginning to sound like some kind of sick death cult, not good, it has been done too many times before. If we start killing ourselves we are just doing their job for them. They want the population reduced by a vast amount.

[turquoisefyre]

If we start killing ourselves we are just doing their job for them. They want the population reduced by a vast amount.


exactomingo! me and you, and you, and you and all the rest being alive is really the turd in "their" drinkwater:D

[edelweiss pirate]

A better question would be are you prepared to kill?

These days I kind of wouldn't... but then I think of those people tormenting Deca and I think I would be doing the world a service....

[turquoisefyre]

A better question would be are you prepared to kill?

These days I kind of wouldn't... but then I think of those people tormenting Deca and I think I would be doing the world a service....


have I ever mentioned on this here site that I'm a marksman??;)

[edelweiss pirate]

We'll build you a sniper tower so you can keep the forum covered..

[seanx]

So my question is...

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man or protect your loved ones?

Why would you want to choose that reality?

But it is your choice.

But if you keep fighting them they are dragging you into THEIR timeline and THEIR reality.

if you are not of their vibration, all their shit cannot affect you.

i know most people think this is nonsense.

Remember the great crash of 1929 which destroyed most people
economically.
yes, of course it did - because most people caught in it were swayed
by the appearance of collaspe all around them and were brought
down into the same vibrations.

But the strange thing - during the EXACT same period, thousands of
OTHER people make an absolute fortune and never had it so good.

They didn't 'buy into' the prevailing thoughts and beliefs that were
created by the powers that be and once you are not of their vibration,
all their shit cannot affect you.

And if other people don't want to listen to you and your warnings -
so what? That's up to them.

Who are you to say what reality THEY should create?

[seanx]

So my question is...

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man or protect your loved ones?

Why would you want to choose that reality?

But it is your choice.

But if you keep fighting them they are dragging you into THEIR
timeline and THEIR reality.

if you are not of their vibration, all their shit cannot affect you.

i know most people think this is nonsense.

Remember the great crash of 1929 which destroyed most people
economically.
yes, of course it did - because most people caught in it were
swayed by the appearance of collaspe all around them and were
brought down into the same vibrations.

But the strange thing - during the EXACT same period, thousands of
OTHER people make an absolute fortune and never had it so good.

They didn't 'buy into' the prevailing thoughts and beliefs that were
created by the powers that be and once you are not of their vibration,
all their shit cannot affect you.

And if other people don't want to listen to you and your warnings -
so what? That's up to them.

Who are you to say what reality THEY should create?

[seanx]

Sorry for posting that twice

[Anders Lindman]

No One has ever died. No One will ever die. Death is for losers. ;)

[seanx]

No One has ever died. No One will ever die. Death is for losers

Absolutely.

But let's be honest here.

How many of us have that absolutele certainty
that death is an illusion.

But we had- everything would change INSTANTLY.

The 'powers that be' would be POWERLESS instantly.

What could they do to you??

Imagine you KNEW absolutely -NO DOUBT at all that if they killed
you - you merely moved to a higher dimension with full awareness
and consciousness.

That you and your family were safe.

I don't mean just 'believe' but 'KNOW'. There is a billion miles of
differecne between those two states

The people now who know all the secrets of the elite would reveal
them all ( watch out the Royal family & friends). Journalists would
no longer be afraid - and would likewise do the same. The whole
fascade would crumble

That's why the elite are obsessed with maintaining total control over
'science' and the catholic church.

They don't mind people 'believing' in life after death. because
with belief there will always be it's opposite doubt - so people
will still be terrified.

However, everything must be done to MAJE SURE people never
'KNOW' that death is an illusion.

Then...their game would be over.

[Anders Lindman]

I don't mean just 'believe' but 'KNOW'. There is a billion miles of
differecne between those two states

The people now who know all the secrets of the elite would reveal
them all ( watch out the Royal family & friends). Journalists would
no longer be afraid - and would likewise do the same. The whole
fascade would crumble


There is also another important thing that must be true for fear to go away. The One must know that suffering will continue to decrease and not increase. Imagine being the One who cannot die and suffering increasing all the time. That's what I would call a nightmare of titanic proportion.

[seanx]

Sorry, I don't understand that.

[Anders Lindman]

Sorry, I don't understand that.

Let's say that we are the One and cannot die; we will live forever, and that the One is on an automatic ride with ever increasing suffering. A horrid fantasy to be sure, which popped up from my subconscious. I think this view is connected to what is called the death wish.

http://www.answers.com/death%20wish

Spooky stuff, but sometimes it's good to bring up deep subconscious fears and look at them.

[phoenix1]

So my question is...

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man or protect your loved ones?

We give up the flesh anyway, yes I'd give up the flesh willingly , and screaming to save anyone, that IS the deffinition of TRUE UNADULTERATED love for another/others, it's a selfless act.

Its no problem in my mind , I have nor fear left now, ALL IN or NOT AT ALL,

We only wear the flesh indeffinatly . Its just the car..not the driver.:)

Phoenix1

[oceanwave]

We only wear the flesh indeffinatly . Its just the car..not the driver.:)

so, the leaf says to the tree,...

..."you're not a part of me"

...and floats away, obliviously...

[thirdwave]

I was umming and R'ing over "yes" and "not sure".. I went for yes...

If I am in a position of power or I have a very good situation where I can push the truth.... then yes I would be ready to die... as I don't see death as death anyway..... its juts moving onto to high school....

and I know I would die with confidence and focus if I was fighting for the truth to stop the pain in the world.... if I died knowing I was apart of it and allowed it I think I would die confused and lost....bitter.... and this would have an effect on my next experience where even I went...

If I had kids and stuff maybe I would change my mind...im not sure.... but right now I feel I do not have responsibilities and would not be letting people down other than a few that love me for just me.... and they would not be left in the shit if I went... so depending in that situation it might change things... say if I was married with a kid.... would make it harder...

[truthcommission]

This wasn't intended to be a philosophical or spiritual discussion on the nature or reality of death. I am talking about physical death and no amount of new age twaddle will change the reality that many real people just like you and me do in fact die in the most horrific circumstances every day.

A lot of the time this shouldn't have to happen I know. Interestingly those who hide behind pseudo spiritual beliefs are probably the most fearful of death. And for all those smart asses I am not calling for a mass suicide :rolleyes: simply looking to see how stuck people really were in their 3 dimensional reality.

I am not into Robbie Williams really but I am open to receiving synchronistic or meaningful messages. This morning as I was driving home I heard this song by Robbie Williams on the radio and its messages stuck in my head...

Come and hold my hand
I wanna contact the living
Not sure I understand
This role I've been given
I sit and talk to God
And he just laughs at my plans
My head speaks a language
I don't understand

I just wanna feel
Real love fill the home that I live in
Cos I got too much life
Running through my veins
Going to waste
I don't wanna die
But I ain't keen on living either
Before I fall in love
I'm preparing to leave her

[seanx]

All this 'resistance' and 'fighting' the enemy only empowers them.

As the old law goes: What you resists persists.

Violent resistance is just the old way - and has never changed
anything.

It's macho nonsense, trying to parade as a real man.

A real man was portrayed by Martin Luther KING. He saw through
all this dying nonsense - and say the real courage was facing
the problem with non-violence and an open heart.

And he achieved more than all the other agitators put together.

[oceanwave]

A real man was portrayed by Martin Luther KING. He saw through
all this dying nonsense - and say the real courage was facing
the problem with non-violence and an open heart.

And he achieved more than all the other agitators put together.

perhaps, but also...

...a real plagiarist (http://setanta.unl.edu/mlk/dn_column.html)...

[truthcommission]

It's macho nonsense, trying to parade as a real man. You have completely missed the point.

Please go back to the start and reread the thread slowly (as well as my previous threads) instead of jumping up with preconceived ideas about me.

I am not supporting open confrontation. I am fully aware that this a futile exercise. They can be exposed and weakened by much simpler (invisible) ways and try shoot a hole through our spirits with their guns. Our true essence cannot be trampled or crushed with their weapons.

They have used classic Hegelian dialectics (Problem Reaction Solution) to keep us controlled so we must use that which is outside this paradigm and within us. That is all I am going to say on this matter here.

[tru3]

This wasn't intended to be a philosophical or spiritual discussion on the nature or reality of death. I am talking about physical death and no amount of new age twaddle will change the reality that many real people just like you and me do in fact die in the most horrific circumstances every day.

A lot of the time this shouldn't have to happen I know. Interestingly those who hide behind pseudo spiritual beliefs are probably the most fearful of death. And for all those smart asses I am not calling for a mass suicide simply looking to see how stuck people really were in their 3 dimensional reality.

why are the two mutually exclusive, truthcommission?

if i understand you, one is either a hard-headed realist who accepts death, or a spiritual namby pamby.

what do you make of this picture?

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/pacificaviet/monk.jpg

i saw this picture when i was nine years old in life magazine, in 1968.

this is a buddhist monk, who immolated himself due to his distress over suffering of the vietnamese people after over 60 years of war with the french and the americans.

this man changed my life, raised my consciousness. he affected tens of thousands of americans in the same way. he, in a small way, energized people to move into the streets and call for the end of the war.

i say one can be both.

[gordonfreeman]

The Monk's Car is still there. But untouched.

I am not sure about Death yet. I would stay in my physical body and remain to save people that only wants to be saved. I would also risk my life for for my family member, friend, and abused animal.

[oneofmany]

I will stand up and fight this more people need to stand up and fight this.
there more of us then them.remember bugs life.fuck u`m they know that and trying to condition us that we are weak.We will show them how strong we are.They are the weak.We are the many.

We need to stand up and Peace this. Civil Disobedience should be the only way people show the powers that be that enough is enough. Once they start committing atrocities on innocent people who were peaceful, then the silent fence sitters will get involved and show governments around the world enough is enough. Ghandi had the right idea, and look what he done for India, and without a single bullet or even fist thrown in anger. Learn from this lesson, don't give the powers that be your personal power, that's what they want.

[shadow cat]

I agree with oneofmany....we DO need to stand up and peace this. We also need to come together on these issues, shelve the prejudices, dampen down the ego, start being a bit more serious on what's happening, and it IS happening. This is not a rehearsal. Others need to wake up to all this, and in my opinion that is what us here are for. Please find the time to listen to Alan Watt's blurb... April 18th 2007 'Common Cause and Coming Together'
www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com
I won't be voting, as in my opinion it's a moot point . Violence is what 'the powers that be' want. I for one will not give in to their desire for all out mayhem and fighting. They can go take a hike, so to speak.

[thirdwave]

This wasn't intended to be a philosophical or spiritual discussion on the nature or reality of death. I am talking about physical death and no amount of new age twaddle will change the reality that many real people just like you and me do in fact die in the most horrific circumstances every day.

A lot of the time this shouldn't have to happen I know. Interestingly those who hide behind pseudo spiritual beliefs are probably the most fearful of death. And for all those smart asses I am not calling for a mass suicide :rolleyes: simply looking to see how stuck people really were in their 3 dimensional reality.

I am not into Robbie Williams really but I am open to receiving synchronistic or meaningful messages. This morning as I was driving home I heard this song by Robbie Williams on the radio and its messages stuck in my head...

Come and hold my hand
I wanna contact the living
Not sure I understand
This role I've been given
I sit and talk to God
And he just laughs at my plans
My head speaks a language
I don't understand

I just wanna feel
Real love fill the home that I live in
Cos I got too much life
Running through my veins
Going to waste
I don't wanna die
But I ain't keen on living either
Before I fall in love
I'm preparing to leave her





I don't think there is such thing as horrific death.... the point of death I think is pure bliss..... what ever builds up to death is not death its self ;)

I also think anticipation is far worse than pain its self.... no matter what pain we are going through at the time we deal with it even if it hurts like hell and sends us to a place were we are very alone...

I am not afraid of death one little bit.... ok I would rather I went out nice and smooth....

now many people die of a horrific death like you say?... ok...

why is it them??? .. "because they are unlucky" ....why are they unlucky?? ..this is where peoples facts no longer have facts... this is the blank spot where explanations are apparently not needed... "bad luck" seems to be the answer...

for a start what is luck?? ... a word used for not being able to explain ones fortune or miss fortune.... but it does not really explain bugger all... just a word to fill something we don't understand.....

that is a logical fact I have put forward... not a myth... not mumbo jumbo...

I do not fear death so much because I am aware that this 3D reality is not my only way of experiencing and expressing my self.... So I do not live in fear of losing it or not cramming all my needs into it even when the time is not right... like most people do....

the reason the world is so hectic is because everyone is in a rush... a rush to get married... a rush to have kids..... why? ..."because we only live once"??

Wrong, we just LIVE.

it is the ignorant who are manipulated and afraid of death, AND spirituality.... how on earth can people be afraid of spirituality??? , but they are!!

[oneofmany]

I agree with oneofmany....we DO need to stand up and peace this. We also need to come together on these issues, shelve the prejudices, dampen down the ego, start being a bit more serious on what's happening, and it IS happening. This is not a rehearsal. Others need to wake up to all this, and in my opinion that is what us here are for. Please find the time to listen to Alan Watt's blurb... April 18th 2007 'Common Cause and Coming Together'
www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com (http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com)
I won't be voting, as in my opinion it's a moot point . Violence is what 'the powers that be' want. I for one will not give in to their desire for all out mayhem and fighting. They can go take a hike, so to speak.

Spot on Shadow Cat, and thanks for getting the fundamental point. If we are at peace with ourselves, they can't touch us with their rhetoric and dogma, thus rendering the powers that be, impotent!!! and the only way they can overcome us is with a hefty dose of Viagra.:D

[truthcommission]

I don't think there is such thing as horrific death.... the point of death I think is pure bliss..... what ever builds up to death is not death its self ;)
Phew lets all take a big sigh of relief and forget all this ever happened.

We no longer need to worry about the Luciferian energy that surrounds our planet because we can relish in the BLISS it causes us when they destroy, maim and perpetrate countless inhuman acts against us and the earths inhabitants.

Sometimes I actually feel depressed that people like yourself can shield yourself from the horrors of the (new) world (order) by wrapping yourself up in this cotton wool fantasy and pretend none of this goes on. Or deny it with recycled spiritual beliefs and come out with the regurgitated thoughts of some Buddhist monk living far away from the reality of the matrix and all it entails such as the NWO, Big Brother, Psychic warfare, War on Terrorism, Trauma Based Mind Control and countless other sickening acts.

[lumukanda]

something that i've wondered about quite a bit is this, if you're killed in a ritual, a ritual designed to get you scared to the highest point you can be scared, a ritual designed to 'eat your soul', are you damned after that? is your soul trapped somewhere? it can't go away, because energy never ceases, merely changes. so if you die by ritual, as opposed to say, dying peacefully in your sleep, or slipping in the shower, is your soul, your energy, trapped somewhere? or is the point of dying a point of release?
obviously none of us can answer this with any certainty, but i'd be interested to hear you thoughts.

[deca]

I have to make this clear I am not a violent person I hate violence I do not think
it solves anything. I do not promote the use of violence. I would defend myself .I used to work in a back street bar and had to handle extreme situation and rarely had to use any physical force.I think people should stand up for there rights and seek peaceful means to achieve This.


Thanks

[truthcommission]

I have been studying ritualistic killings and it has led me to believe that a persons soul can be left in limbo if certain acts were carried out at the time of death or even after death.

The Buddhist believe in states which they call bardos and they believe that if the person died in a violent way there soul can be trapped in limbo.

Bardo Thodol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apparently JFK's brain was removed in some kind of ritualistic way after he died. The purpose of this would be to trap his soul so he cannot reincarnate according to Jim Keith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

[Anders Lindman]

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man or protect your loved ones?

Truth when known is self-evident, it requires no proof or explanation. If you are ready to die for bringing "truth", then obviously you die for something that is not really the truth at all. Protecting loved ones is another matter. But what is a 'loved one' as opposed to someone 'not a loved one'. I sense a great deal of egoic thinking in this. Only a Sith deals with absolutes.

[truthcommission]

Truth when known is self-evident, it requires no proof or explanation.

Wasn't it Galileo who said...

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; THE POINT is to DISCOVER them.

Sometimes there are certain truths that once you get too close to could expose a certain reality that for whatever reason those who have a hidden agenda want to suppress.

[lumukanda]

I have been studying ritualistic killings and it has led me to believe that a persons soul can be left in limbo if certain acts were carried out at the time of death or even after death.

The Buddhist believe in states which they call bardos and they believe that if the person died in a violent way there soul can be trapped in limbo.

Bardo Thodol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Book_of_the_Dead)

Apparently JFK's brain was removed in some kind of ritualistic way after he died. The purpose of this would be to trap his soul so he cannot reincarnate according to Jim Keith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keith).

interesting, thanks for responding, i suppose the question is, can you, or someone else, free you from this state?

[truthcommission]

interesting, thanks for responding, i suppose the question is, can you, or someone else, free you from this state?
It is possible.

[Anders Lindman]

Wasn't it Galileo who said...



Sometimes there are certain truths that once you get too close to could expose a certain reality that for whatever reason those who have a hidden agenda want to suppress.

Yes, of course. Exposing facts is something that will be helpful. But to be prepared to die in order to expose a truth, I am not. If I know something that needs to be told, then certainly I would tell it, but I'm not ready to die for it. And to be honest about loved ones, if someone was starting to kill my family and I had a gun, then I would probably shoot the bastard. :(

[tommi]

I'm personally not afraid to die for anything.. I guess it's the manner in which I could die that worries me a bit..

[truthcommission]

...if someone was starting to kill my family and I had a gun, then I would probably shoot the bastard. :(
I am with you Anders.

[tru3]

Truth when known is self-evident, it requires no proof or explanation. If you are ready to die for bringing "truth", then obviously you die for something that is not really the truth at all. Protecting loved ones is another matter. But what is a 'loved one' as opposed to someone 'not a loved one'. I sense a great deal of egoic thinking in this. Only a Sith deals with absolutes.

there is nothing more ferocious in nature than a mother protecting her cubs. the ferocity arises, then drops once the threat has passed. the difference is humans hold on to the energy, and we dress it up in all kinds of high-minded language. good is merely what we want, and evil is what we don't want. or more precisely, what we think we want or don't want. unfortunately the human mind can't distinguish truth from illusion. that is the job of the Heart, working in unison with the small, still voice. just my opinion.

would i step in front of a bus to push my son out of the way? you bet. same with anyone, even some loomie bastard. i would not kill someone, however, to steal a loaf of bread for myself.

[truthcommission]

unfortunately the human mind can't distinguish truth from illusion. that is the job of the Heart...
From a holographic perspective there is as much intelligence in our little fingers as in our brains. Although within the heart there is a concentration of energy which the brain lacks.

[seanx]

Apologies, truthcommission, I took up your thread wrong

When tru 3 wrote this and the photo of the monk, I grasped what
you were really talking about.

i saw this picture when i was nine years old in life magazine, in 1968.


It's a great Question? How many of us could do as that monk did?

[Anders Lindman]

what do you make of this picture?


The monk is like a Jedi sacrificing himself for others.

Supreme Chancellor: Remember back to your early teachings. "All who gain power are afraid to lose it." Even the Jedi.

Anakin Skywalker: The Jedi use their power for good.

Supreme Chancellor: Good is a point of view, Anakin. The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power.

Anakin Skywalker: The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inward, only about themselves.

Supreme Chancellor: And the Jedi don't?

Anakin Skywalker: The Jedi are selfless... they only care about others.

The problem is that neither the Jedi nor the Sith can by themselves bring balance to the Force. When you care only about yourself like a Sith, then you fail to recognize that oneness includes others. When you care only about others, like a Jedi, the you fail to recognize that oneness includes yourself.

The balance of the Force is the integration of the Jedi and the Sith which includes BOTH others AND oneself.

[Mo0n5tar]

A recent comment in this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31092&postcount=31) made my blood boil. It made me think about the harassment, psychic abuse/manipulation, character assassinations and actual assassinations many truth seekers and whistleblowers have experienced to bring out the truth.

It also reminded me of a comment from Michael Tsarion in which he said about certain people who dabble with conspiracies, hidden symbolism and such but once it gets too heavy they're GONE. Its almost like certain forum members treat much of what is being discussed here the same way as watching an episode of The X Files or worse The Simpsons!

For them it is all just a little bit of whimsy. They passively consume and then retreat back into their cozy little 3 dimensional world. They don't ever need to worry about being spied on (even though they are) or getting too close to the truth and being killed (although that might happen).

So my question is...

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man or protect your loved ones?

Only God will know when i am ready to die, and when i am, then that is how it shall be, whether or not i will be reborn is a matter yet undecided, will i give my life for that chance, yes!.

[Mo0n5tar]

Can you even be ready for death in life?

Are some of us even ready for death in death??

[i_am]

So my question is...

Are you be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order to bring the truth to fellow man

No! Most definately a no. If I cannot talk them around or make them see by some other means, I am not about to throw away my life.

or protect your loved ones?

I would protect my loved ones to the enth degree. If that turned out to cost me my life, so be it. However, to make a conscious decision to sacrifice ones self is something that I truly believe you would need to be in that position ,to make that call. You may think you would or you may think you would not. I hope you (or I) never have to be in that position as we may find we react in an altogether different way when faced with the dilemma.

[chattanova]

I really like 'the 5 sense reality' ,and wanna stay a bit longer.

[jinjo5]

At the time of writing im absolutely shocked that over 54% have answered
YES!:eek: to that question.incredible.
people need to get their priorities right.
youd be willing to die for something that's way from being proven.
Its almost like blind religious devotion.
If the question was put 'would you die for your kids' then thats different.
Please no-one say they are the same thing,that you are fighting for your family anyway.
It isnt.

[jinjo5]

I really like 'the 5 sense reality' ,and wanna stay a bit longer.
A sensible answer nova,it's the only answer anyone can give really.

[cafetimes1991]

It depends on the level of exposition I'm doing. Like distributing one leaflet as opposed to thousands.
Hypothetically, if I went back to Germany, 1942, I think I would distribute leaflets like The White Rose, if I could.

[deca]

I don`t think Truth tellers whistle blowers don`t have a death wish,they feel they have a responsibility, then go`s further than their own life.
I can`t shut up about what I am going through / even many would think is the sensible choice. I have to get the information out so it pass me and has a "life" of its own, also how would I feel knowing what I do and not saying something.
This is not easy as not only I suffer but many others do. They make out because of what I say that others will pay and suffer. I did not create this mess,I got unwilling dragged into it.This situation was created by others peoples needs and how they decide to peruse and developed this, The way they have done this does not give me confidence how this technology will be used in the future or even in the passed/prescient.

I am no hero ,I am just trying to stay alive,I would run away from the bullshit, but I can`t.

[cafetimes1991]

So in short, I voted 'yes'.

[whatistruth]

I better title would be "Are you prepared not to exist anymore?".

[reptileslayer]

Why would you want to choose that reality?

But it is your choice.

But if you keep fighting them they are dragging you into THEIR timeline and THEIR reality.

if you are not of their vibration, all their shit cannot affect you.

i know most people think this is nonsense.

Remember the great crash of 1929 which destroyed most people
economically.
yes, of course it did - because most people caught in it were swayed
by the appearance of collaspe all around them and were brought
down into the same vibrations.

But the strange thing - during the EXACT same period, thousands of
OTHER people make an absolute fortune and never had it so good.

They didn't 'buy into' the prevailing thoughts and beliefs that were
created by the powers that be and once you are not of their vibration,
all their shit cannot affect you.

And if other people don't want to listen to you and your warnings -
so what? That's up to them.

Who are you to say what reality THEY should create?
They were manipulating the markets and wheeling and dealing you fool, not daydream about whether it was happening for real or not.

[seanx]

reptileslayer wrote:

They were manipulating the markets and wheeling and dealing you fool, not daydream about whether it was happening for real or not.

Before you try to waste our time here, get off your arse and
read Icke's tales of time loop and Infinite love ....and then come
back and debate with us here.

Otherwise....you're just sprouting hot air.

( BTW, even in today's Elite-created reccession, there are millions
making fortunes because they know how to manipulate their own
reality and not let themselves vibrate to the negative frequency the
Elite'a media is spurning out everyday. Icke will tell you all in tales
of the time loop how they do it)

[banjoreality]

"dying for the truth" makes as much sense to me as "living to lie".

[skunksmash]

why is ''not yet'' not in the poll......??

am i scared of death...''never''

am i ready to die... ''not yet''

i have no fear of whats coming i just need to make sure my kids are ok before i make that journey....;)



:)SK

[hellosatellites]

Staying alive seems to make more sense, in any fight.

Staying alive - does it seem to be more of a challenge now? I would say it does. So many forces now want us dead or dying; they want us depressed and devoid of authenticity, cut off from the life source.

If you want to fight these forces that plot our demise and bank on our downfall, the strongest form of rebellion seem to be STAY ALIVE! Not just physically, but fully alive in your soul: Awake, Vibrant, Glowing, Authentic.

[coco]

No. Evidently, I have too damn much fight left in me.

[octopusrex]

Any day, any place.

But I'm not in a hurry.

[siliconpsychosis]

Death, bring it on.

[ziegenfarm]

i answered yes, but what really worries me is what so many do with the truth when they finally have it. or rather what they don't do with the truth.
we conservatives tried in vain to expose obama before the usa election last fall. even now, when it is so obvious, his followers flat out refuse to see the truth.
so..........would i die to reveal the truth to those who would gain from it? yes. would i die for a room full of democrats? what would be the point?

[novymir]

why are the two mutually exclusive, truthcommission?

if i understand you, one is either a hard-headed realist who accepts death, or a spiritual namby pamby.

what do you make of this picture?

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/pacificaviet/monk.jpg

i saw this picture when i was nine years old in life magazine, in 1968.

this is a buddhist monk, who immolated himself due to his distress over suffering of the vietnamese people after over 60 years of war with the french and the americans.

this man changed my life, raised my consciousness. he affected tens of thousands of americans in the same way. he, in a small way, energized people to move into the streets and call for the end of the war.

i say one can be both.

Yes, he also shows how to be The One. He proves we are not truly bound to the rules of this world.
That was his purpose to me.
He just sat there and burned, with no distress. He Knew. And lived it. And showed us.
In view of TRUTH, war, abuse, and profit, and all the rest is pointless, ridiculous, insane.
The "elite" do not know The Truth, nor does that which controls them. They and It is blind. All eyes will soon see.