Colloidal Silver

[lightbeing]

Anybody here take colloidal silver? I have been taking it daily for 18 months, touch wood, not had a bad cold in that time, the odd 1 or 2 day ones:)
Here's a link with info:-

http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

[tru3]

Anybody here take colloidal silver? I have been taking it daily for 18 months, touch wood, not had a bad cold in that time, the odd 1 or 2 day ones:)
Here's a link with info:-

http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

i was involved with colloidal silver for several years. i found it to be very beneficial as a support for the immune system. the type i was taking was monotomic colloidal.

based on what i learned, i would avoid taking the store-bought generic type, because the larger size of the particles tend to cause the silver to build up and get "stuck" between the cells. it negates the whole reason for taking it, which is to attach pathogens to the charged silver particles and flush them from the system.

i stopped buying it from my source when it became apparent to me that the producer was fudging on the silver content he was claiming to have. then, being human by nature :rolleyes: , i stopped taking it altogether.

the stuff works, imo. :)

[lottie]

not had a bad cold in that time, the odd 1 or 2 day ones:) ]

well ive not taken collodial silver although i have heard of the benefits, i too have not been ill or had a cold for a year now.... i refuse to believe i can get ill...try it it works.... just keep telling yourself you are a hologram and a hologram cant get ill and if you truly belive it , you won't get ill!! all my friends and family have been coughing and ssneezing all around me and for 'some reason' ive not caught a cold yet!! havn't had a bug or any sickness etc, ever since i learned about the holographic nature of reality!! im sure it really is belief that dictates what our bodies respond to....i used to believe i could get poorly...so i did...
im off to manifest a cindy crawford figure....!!!! LOL!!! :D

[lightbeing]

well ive not taken collodial silver although i have heard of the benefits, i too have not been ill or had a cold for a year now.... i refuse to believe i can get ill...try it it works.... just keep telling yourself you are a hologram and a hologram cant get ill and if you truly belive it , you won't get ill!! all my friends and family have been coughing and ssneezing all around me and for 'some reason' ive not caught a cold yet!! havn't had a bug or any sickness etc, ever since i learned about the holographic nature of reality!! im sure it really is belief that dictates what our bodies respond to....i used to believe i could get poorly...so i did...
im off to manifest a cindy crawford figure....!!!! LOL!!! :D

Good one lottie, I will try this:)

[tru3]

well ive not taken collodial silver although i have heard of the benefits, i too have not been ill or had a cold for a year now.... i refuse to believe i can get ill...try it it works.... just keep telling yourself you are a hologram and a hologram cant get ill and if you truly belive it , you won't get ill!! all my friends and family have been coughing and ssneezing all around me and for 'some reason' ive not caught a cold yet!! havn't had a bug or any sickness etc, ever since i learned about the holographic nature of reality!! im sure it really is belief that dictates what our bodies respond to....i used to believe i could get poorly...so i did...
im off to manifest a cindy crawford figure....!!!! LOL!!! :D

thanks, lottie. there's much truth in what you say.

when i was a toddler, my dad was still at university. he would carry me under his arm, throw me in the car on a cold winter morning, day after day, and say to me," you can't get sick. we don't have insurance".

well, guess what? i don't get sick, and i hate insurance companies! :D

p.s. let us know how that cindy crawford thing goes...;)

[indigo]

That stuff sounds amazing, almost too good to be true. I had bronchitis last year and was put on antibiotics, but not only did it get rid of the bad bacteria but also the good and left me in agony with stomach pains, which I then had to treat with probiotics. So if this stuff doesn't get rid of the good bacteria it's worth it. I read a story though a few years ago about a woman who went grey after taking silver stuff, I dont know what it was exactly:confused: ~That would be the only thing to put me off.

[turquoisefyre]

i use it. i take it just before bed time. i can't really say too much, but i do think it helps killing funguses you breathe in and keeps fku away.

get mine from here http://www.colldass.co.uk

really the best price on the net imo.

[lightbeing]

That stuff sounds amazing, almost too good to be true. I had bronchitis last year and was put on antibiotics, but not only did it get rid of the bad bacteria but also the good and left me in agony with stomach pains, which I then had to treat with probiotics. So if this stuff doesn't get rid of the good bacteria it's worth it. I read a story though a few years ago about a woman who went grey after taking silver stuff, I dont know what it was exactly:confused: ~That would be the only thing to put me off.


The silver doesn't touch your good bacteria.
Also, if you did take enough of say a bad quality colloidal silver that is very dark in colour, it means the silver particles are big, it maybe could turn you grey:eek:
The best quality silver is totally safe to take daily with no side effects or interaction with any known drug.

[lightbeing]

i use it. i take it just before bed time. i can't really say too much, but i do think it helps killing funguses you breathe in and keeps fku away.

get mine from here http://www.colldass.co.uk

really the best price on the net imo.

Me too, good family run business.:)

[celtic isis]

well ive not taken collodial silver although i have heard of the benefits, i too have not been ill or had a cold for a year now.... i refuse to believe i can get ill...try it it works.... just keep telling yourself you are a hologram and a hologram cant get ill and if you truly belive it , you won't get ill!! all my friends and family have been coughing and ssneezing all around me and for 'some reason' ive not caught a cold yet!! havn't had a bug or any sickness etc, ever since i learned about the holographic nature of reality!! im sure it really is belief that dictates what our bodies respond to....i used to believe i could get poorly...so i did...
im off to manifest a cindy crawford figure....!!!! LOL!!! :D

:D haha! love it!

really lotts, i have to try this too...i thought it was washing my hands a lot that saved me from illness lol


but yeah i have noticed this too...if you have to do something even if you're ill it goes away, when your mind isn't thinkig about it...

so with this possible flu pandemic sprewing and everyone (awake) telling me to get this collodial silver, just wondering any side affects from taking collodial silver? also is it only in capsules, i have to look cause i can't swallow the buggers...

me being a wuss i had to ask for side affects lol

[celtic isis]

That stuff sounds amazing, almost too good to be true. I had bronchitis last year and was put on antibiotics, but not only did it get rid of the bad bacteria but also the good and left me in agony with stomach pains, which I then had to treat with probiotics. So if this stuff doesn't get rid of the good bacteria it's worth it. I read a story though a few years ago about a woman who went grey after taking silver stuff, I dont know what it was exactly:confused: ~That would be the only thing to put me off.

ok i just see now that there's no side affects :)

lol i have no idea what that could've been! i doubt it would turn your hair silver haha :)

[boots]

ok i just see now that there's no side affects :)

lol i have no idea what that could've been! i doubt it would turn your hair silver haha :)


I'm getting my silver maker fixed :cool:

There are no side effects. What indigo had with the stomach pains would have been from the antibiotics. That stuff really fucks up the good bacteria in the stomach.

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[wazaaap]

http://www.naturalremedies4u.co.uk/index.php?/colloidal-silver/colloidal-silver-1000ml-glass.html

how long would this last?

[alzee]

I'll be making my own within the next few days. I'm just waiting for my second silver ingot to come through the post :)

[celtic isis]

I'm getting my silver maker fixed :cool:

There are no side effects. What indigo had with the stomach pains would have been from the antibiotics. That stuff really fucks up the good bacteria in the stomach.

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cheers boots :)

yeah a friend just sent me links etc to make my own, i had no idea!

looking into it!!

[father ted]

The Dangers of Colloidal Silver - YouTube

[alzee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahihGKZC5Kk&feature=related

Even if it's true that this man did indeed turn blue from using colloidal silver, isnt it funny how 1 or 2 people turn grey/blue and the media goes apeshit over it, yet when it comes to the many many thousands of people who suffer problems with pharma drugs, they get little or no mention :rolleyes:

All the anecdotal evidence I read about colloidal silver tells me its worthwhile. I don't really get ill anyway, but if I do I'll have some colloidal silver on standby.

[celtic isis]

Even if it's true that this man did indeed turn blue from using colloidal silver, isnt it funny how 1 or 2 people turn grey/blue and the media goes apeshit over it, yet when it comes to the many many thousands of people who suffer problems with pharma drugs, they get little or no mention :rolleyes:

All the anecdotal evidence I read about colloidal silver tells me its worthwhile. I don't really get ill anyway, but if I do I'll have some colloidal silver on standby.

i agree :)
lol i saw this guy on french tv and they didn't say it was collodial silver...

[celtic isis]

aww poor guy, i think it's quite sexy actually lol, i wouldn't mind myself blue i always like the smurfs anyway :)

course this could be fake too, they just paint this guy blue and then do a news item warning us not to take collodial silver...

:confused:

[father ted]

This guy is just an extreeme case. It shows how it affects people, it looks like it's clogging up his arteries or clogging up something!

Why would you want to take anything like that is beyond me.

[father ted]

I typed in colloidal silver on google pics btw, and not blue people.

http://together.net/~rjstan/pre_dermabrasion_full.jpg

http://www.webanstrich.de/rosemary/silverfraud.html

http://www.doh.state.fl.us/pharmacy/Images/silver1.jpg

http://images-cdn01.associatedcontent.com/image/A1874/187459/300_187459.jpg

http://soberswan.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/031208-1933-thesmurfsyn6.jpg

[celtic isis]

I typed in colloidal silver on google pics btw, and not blue people.

http://together.net/~rjstan/pre_dermabrasion_full.jpg

http://www.webanstrich.de/rosemary/silverfraud.html

http://www.doh.state.fl.us/pharmacy/Images/silver1.jpg

http://images-cdn01.associatedcontent.com/image/A1874/187459/300_187459.jpg

http://soberswan.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/031208-1933-thesmurfsyn6.jpg

lol...:D

silverfraud...obviously those people took a lot though!

[celtic isis]

Why would you want to take anything like that is beyond me.

to prevent the flu from killing us lol if it works...if there is indeed a flu...they're starting to cull us in large numbers, this is probably a test run...lol just weighing up what's going on...:)

found this:

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1820

In the 1940s, the use of colloidal silver in the medical field began to taper off mainly due to the advent of the modern antibiotics, but also due to three other reasons. The first was the high cost. Even in the depression era of the late 1930's, colloidal silver was reported to have been sold for as much as $200 per ounce (in present day dollars.) The second reason was that many of the silver products available at the time contained toxic forms of silver salts or very large particles of silver related to the available technology of the time. The third reason is that in 1938 the federal Food and Drug Administration established that from that point forward, only those "drugs" which met FDA standards could be marketed for medicinal purposes (1). In 1999, the FDA banned the use of colloidal silver or silver salts in over-the-counter products. Silver products can and are sold as "dietary supplements" in health stores only if they make no health claims, but many advertisers ignore the last restriction and still promote the benefits of the use of colloidal silver.

Prolonged contact or too much of colloidal silver can result in argyria, which produces a "gray to gray-black staining of skin and mucous membranes produced by silver deposition" (3). The normal human body contains about 1 milligram of silver, and the smallest amount of silver ingested reported to cause argyria ranges from 4-5 grams to 20-40 grams. The silver is deposited on the face and diffused all over the skin, and as the individual is under the sun the silver darkens as a result of being oxidized by strong sunlight, thus producing the silver/blue/gray complexion (4). There are a few physical signs that suggest the onset of this condition: the first is a gray-brown staining of the gums, later progressing to involve the skin. The color is usually slate-gray, slightly metallic, or blue-gray and may appear after a few months of silver treatments. The second sign is that the hyperpigmentation is most apparent in the sun, with the exposed areas of skin, especially the face and hands.

While the majority of the individuals using colloidal silver will never developing argryia, some individuals are at a higher risk than others. The Environmental Protection Agency suggests that people with low vitamin E and selenium levels are more susceptible to argyria, as well as individuals with slower metabolisms. People with slower metabolisms have the rest of their natural eliminative systems working more slowly and can be more easily overwhelmed.

The most recent case of argyria is Stan Jones, Montana's Libertarian candidate for Senate. He started taking colloidal silver in 1999 for fear that there would be shortage of antibiotics due to Y2K disruptions. People ask him two questions: if his blue-gray skin is permanent and if is he dead. His usual response is that he is practicing for Halloween.

Colloidal silver is argued to be the best alternative, safe for pets, children, plants, and all multi-celled organisms. From his own bacteriological experiments, Dr. Henry Crooks supports the use of colloidal silver, claiming that all known disease-causing organisms die within six minutes of the ingestion of silver.

If I had an infection of some kind and had the option of taking an antibiotic or drinking colloidal silver, I would choose the antibiotic. For starters, there is more information about the drug. Many scientists have performed experiments with the drug and know a lot about its effects in the human body.

And this person doens't realise how stupid he/she is putting her health in the hands of scientists and pharma companies working for profits! We all know how safe antibiotics are lol

[father ted]

to prevent the flu from killing us lol if it works...if there is indeed a flu...they're starting to cull us in large numbers, this is probably a test run...lol just weighing up what's going on...:)

found this:

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1820

They're only culling the black race, you'll be fine.

If they wanted to kill you with a bio weapon, you would know about it. I'm sure there's lots of better ways to preventing disease and viruses, your mind is the best tool ultimately though.

I find it odd that people are reaching out for miracle cures, it parallels people taking pharmaceuticals. It's the same reason, although a different type of substance.

[celtic isis]

haha some great comments after that link i posted!


10/17/2005, from a Reader on the Web

You must work for the FDA!!!! Why don't you read Natural Cures they Don't want you to know about, and see what a "wonderful" government we have.


Additional comments made prior to 2007
I been using colloidal silver for 21 years. My skin is flawless. Because of my proven user of the colloidal silver, my whole family is on it. People who experience blue/gray skin Does Not necessary the cause from colloidal silver.

The FDA has NO document records of any danger from colloidal silver.

I wrote to the FDA under the Freedom of Information Act. I requested all information in the agencyís files that showed deaths, allergic reactions, harmful drug interactions or argyria resulting from colloidal silver use. This is what the FDA has to say:

...we have searched the records FDA's Adverse Event Reporting System (AERS) and

has been unable to locate any cases that would be responsive to your request....

Now, how anyone dare to make such a claim that ARGYRIA cause by colloidal silver?

After 21 years of using the CS, my life has never been better. I would recommend people to keep on using it as long thing think they needed it. If knowingly that they are sick that is.

PS. If you think Rosemary story is true. You are being trick by the FDA and the Pharmaceutical people ... Nit Ron, 28 August 2006




I agree with the last poster. You must work for the FDA! ... Carol, 1 September 2006




I have been taking Colloidal Silver now for over Six years, I use it for everything and anything. When ever my dogs or cats are not up to par I give them colloidal silver. I produce my own CS, using only distilled water, .9999 Silver and an electric current. My friends, family and myself have found it works wonders on cuts, bruises, dry eyes, colds, flu and anything else that is caused by a one-celled pathogens, without damage to tissue-cell enzymes. Thru my years of use, we have cured parvo, we have dissolved cysts, after falling down have prevented black eyes and stopped infection in open scrapes. I truly believe that this natural antibiotic is one of the true natural drugs. From what I have read the disease you are talking about was not caused by "True Colloidal Silver", but from Colloidal Silver and another agent, usually choride. So for my own use I will never go to a doctor for colds, flu, artiritis etc., because I am living proof that it works. No Colds, Flu or any kind of virus in the past 5 years. Not bad for a 53 year female. Thanks for letting me vent ... Roxanne Robinson, 14 January 2007



Submitted by spencer jones (not verified) on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 11:09pm.

Yes, argyria (skin greying) is a very real side effect of excessive usage of colloidal silver.

But diabetes, pancreatitis and heart disease are very real side effects of excessive usage of sugar.

Cirrhosis of the liver and heart failure are very real side effects of the excessive usage of iron supplements. '

Kidney malfunction, calcification of soft tissue within the body, cellular toxicity and impaired immune function are very real side effects of excess usage of calcium.

Muscle pain, fatigue, irritability, depression, schizophrenia, fever, liver damage and anemia are very real side effects of the excessive usage of Vitamin A.

What's more, DEATH is a very real side effect of the excessive usage of...water (it's called "drowning").

None of those side effects justify being afraid to use the substances mentioned. Why? Because the key phrase involved in each one is "excessive use." When used in moderation, these substances are not only benign, but helpful. When used in excess, they can cause serious health consequences.

It is exactly the same with colloidal silver. If you use it in moderation it is completely harmless, and in fact extremely beneficial for boosting immunity and warding off infections of all sorts. It even helps the body heal from chronic degenerative diseases such as lupus, MS, rheumatoid arthritis, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, Lyme disease and a host of others that often are caused by underlying hidden infections. But if used in excess daily over long periods of time, the result can be argyria, or skin-staining. It is a harmless, but cosmetically unappealing condition resulting from silver particles being pushed to the skin (the body's third major organ of elimination) at which point they oxidize (or tarnish)from exposure to the sun.

Out of the estimated 10 million users of colloidal silver throughout North America, only a very small handful have been naive, ignorant or ill-informed enough to take such excessive quantities over such long periods of time to result in skin-staining. It is ridiculous to blame the substance for the mis-use by the person. That's kinda like saying water is terrrible for you because several thousand people a year die in it due to drowning.

For anyone interested in learning about safe and common sense colloidal silver usage, please visit our web site at www.thesilveredge.com and download our FREE special report titled “What's the "Safest" Daily Dosage for Colloidal Silver?” which uses the EPA’s (Environmental Protection Agency) own figures to determine how much colloidal silver is safe to take daily. Just use the link in the located in the upper left-hand corner of the home page.

Also, if you want to learn even more about the safe usage of colloidal silver, a company called Life & Health Research Group has recently placed their one-hour, studio-quality Colloidal Silver Secrets video on sale for only twenty bucks. If features Steve Barwick, author of The Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual, being interviewed relentlessly by television personality Kristyn Burtt on just about every aspect of colloidal silver usage you can imagine.
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colloidal silver
Submitted by charles (not verified) on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 10:27pm.

I want to hug Spencer Jones! I was litteraly laughing out loud when i read your post and still laugh about it days later.

You hit the nail over the head.

as for those who believe in the religion of science. here are two independent churches of science (called universities) who both support colloidal silver and its ability to CURE , not suppress, or put whipped cream on.. CURE disease.. unlike the pharmaceuticals that want to make drugs that keep the person dependent for years so they can bilk societies health cares for billions, silver has no agenda and kills the buggers in their tracks. (if you think about it, aids is the perfect scam, they are able to keep people on it for years and they never get better and stay dependent)

i mean come on people wake up.. we have known about cancer for over a 100 years. and all we have to offer is a scalpel, essentially poison or radiation?? come on.. we have had those same options for over 60 years! your telling me that all the BILLIONS yes BILLIONS that have been raised and all the hundreds and thousands of minds working on this haven't been able to come up with anything???? Since, we have GONE TO TEH MOON, split a atom, built super computers.. but any advances in cancer treatment???? not ONE! NOT ONE! all we have are some little bit more powerful drugs, and slightly better detection methods.. RIDICULOUS!

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1401

all the FDA can say about colloidal silver is that its curing power is anecdotal, 1?!??!?! and that they cite concerns that the element is dangerous. bahahha.. this is from the same people who gave the big OK to flouride.. a deadly POISON that causes things like A.D.D etc and happily gave it to the populace with NO WARNING !???! to not swallow?? who are you trusting here people? Did you know that 100 of all drugs don’t work on all people? and that their numbers some times are as low as 60% ?? and even lower. As far as i'm concerned, common pharmaceuticals and their drug success rates are anecdotal.

Besides, when people say something works. its for a reason, regardless of what it is, if it works.. people say it does.. if it doesn't then people don't. Why is this type of evidence so frowned apon by the scientific community? i mean its as if they think if they don't understand why its good or how it works, then it cant't be good.. thats probably the reason they are always studying the benefits of common things like fruits and vegetables.. and releasing silly reports like.. (oh turns out if one eats their fruits and vegetables they will be health.. ) thanks science. glad my tax dollars are helping you figure out these profound truths.

anyways all this is moot.

if the reader of this forum is dying, or suffering terribly from something..which would you rather do, die or continue suffering with either the disease or the crappy drugs you are fed.. or do you want to take a chance that just maybe people making millions of peoples ignorance might possibly have something to hide and try silver colloid.?

if the answer to that question is yes then

1. google the hell out of it and make sure you know as much as you can about it.

2. use 99.9% pure silver, and make sure the particles are 20 ppm or less, or better just go buy some high quality stuff, but be aware, these people are in some ways just as guilty as pharmeceuticals in their over pricing. 50 bux which is as high as i have seen before is ridiculous, there are machines out there that make it for way cheaper.

Good luck to you.




Excellent comments; peek Royal Raymond Rife & his cancer cure
Submitted by MaxTheITpro (not verified) on Sun, 04/20/2008 - 4:00am.

Why is there always this pattern of the US FDA "attack dogs" trying to prevent citizens from controlling their own medical destinies? Didn't the AMA also destroy the amazing invention of Royal Raymond Rife (Google this genius!) and put him through living hill when he DISCOVERED a CURE for CANCER a LONG time ago?? I'm talking around the 40s or 50s here folks. I read accounts of government thugs destroying his lab and the Rife machine. Again, Google him! You will be eternally pissed off at the fact that his device was a THREAT to the multi-billion dollar cancer (ahem!) TREATMENT industry.

We also see the FDA, DEA and other shady organisations trying to put the lid on CANNIBIS/HEMP solutions for health and tons of industrial applications. Again, take a peek on the Net for Jack Herer's free online book (The Emperor Wears No Clothes) to see how we're killing this planet despite Hemp's remarkable uses for biomass/biodiesel, pulp & paper, food and as a complete replacement for the toxic cotton industry.

We really are living in a messed up world when solutions like Colloidal Silver et al are not given the credit they deserve. But remember...it was ALWAYS about MONEY.



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I HAD BEEN ILL FOR SEVERAL
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/08/2008 - 3:06pm.

I HAD BEEN ILL FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND WAS TO AFRAID TO GO TO THE DOCTOR, FOR FEAR OF BAD NEWS! I WENT TO THE LOCAL HEALT FOOD STOR AND PURCHASED THE HIGHEST GRADE COLLOIDAL SILVER, AND TOOK THREE DOSES YESTURDAY, AND I I WOKE UP TODAY, AND THE SWELLING IN MY LYMPH GLANDS HAS GONE DOWN, AND I FEEL BETTER THAN I HAVE IN MONTHS, AND I AM CONVINCED OF COLLOIDAL SILVERS MIRACLE!!!!






Colloidal Silver
Submitted by JJ (not verified) on Wed, 12/03/2008 - 1:28pm.

Although I appreciate Ms. Traversi's findings on this topic, it appears that she did NOT spend enough time on research regarding Colloidal Silver and it's many benefits. I too would not be surprised if she works for a pharmaceutical company or the likes of one. The FDA, and the Pharmaceuticals are in cahoots with each other and any progress reached in possible cures for Chronic, or Life Threatening diseases are downplayed, overlooked, or in the case of "Royal Raymond Rife" simply destroyed.

These pharmaceutical companies are extremely greedy with only one thing in mind 'Profits'. They don't care about the well being of anyone and are only interested in money. The main purpose of their existence other than money is to make an ill patient dependent on their drugs. So instead of being a drug for one time use, or maybe for a couple of months or so, it becomes a drug that you will need for life. Most medications used to help you with a particular problem in most cases will cause additional problems due to side-effects. Therefore, you find yourself taking additional medication to subdue the side-effects caused by the medication that's suppose to help you in the first place, but really doesn't. All it does is provide temporary relief, then you take more medication to subdue the side affects of the medication used to subdue the side-affects from the previous medications and so on....and on.....the cycle continues, and the more medication they put you on, the more dependent you become, the more money they make.

No wonder very sick patients find themselves using 20 or more medications on a daily basis. What a sick world! with sick, greedy individuals. The only thing that brings me any solace to this horrendous act of human nature is the fact that all these men & women will some day meet their maker, and many will find themselves reaping what they sow. Karma! is a hell of a thing...

JJ.

[eternal_spirit]

Smoke eat cannabis/hemp (eat the seeds) avoid a lot of alcohol (the odd drink is ok) People I know have had chest infections coughs colds etc, ALL of them in the same room except me! I seem to have become immune to it all for over 3 years or so.
get out in the fields the dirt, trees etc, hang out with cats and dogs pets. :) All this will help build up your immune system. Eat shed loads of raw fruit and plenty of veg (lightly cooked)

[celtic isis]

Smoke eat cannabis/hemp (eat the seeds) avoid a lot of alcohol (the odd drink is ok) People I know have had chest infections coughs colds etc, ALL of them in the same room except me! I seem to have become immune to it all for over 3 years or so.
get out in the fields the dirt, trees etc, hang out with cats and dogs pets. :) All this will help build up your immune system. Eat shed loads of raw fruit and plenty of veg (lightly cooked)

good advice eternal :)

i can picture you, when nothing else is left on the Earth you will still be here :) haha indestructable :)

i popped on after discussing this with hubby...i had forgotten that i have already taken copper metal in liquid (distilled water) little glass "ampoules" cartridges...it's a homeopathic type treatment, and hubby has informed me that the homeopath usually gives copper (known to kill bacteria) and silver mixed in water solution to prevent infections...and to kill off existing ones...

So i took the copper each morning for about 2 months, had no other affects, didn't turn copper coloured...lol

I may try this instead now, i just hope that sodding flu can hold off until the appointment with the homeopath!

[vividchild]

I didn't see this before posting a question in the health forum. I have wanted to purchase some for ages due to a UTI which won't leave me, among other things. I can't seem to find how much to take though and don't know exactly where to buy it. The natural solutions foundation recommends/works with this company: http://www.nutronix.com/ yet it still doesn't give any instructions on how to use it oh their website. This pandemic business has made me feel more inclined to buy some too... just in case :/

[alzee]

Right, I've got my pieces of pure silver and I'm off to the shop to pick up some aligator clips shortly.

Does anyone have any experince in making their own CS and can offer advice on timings, filtering, etc?

[celtic isis]

beware people, some uk skeptics are here to steal some wisdom from our wonderful ever increasing in members forum :)

funny how they mock on their own tiny forum and yet spy here each chance they get...

nice :)

not even colloidal silver will save your asses :)

[alzee]

beware people, some uk skeptics are here to steal some wisdom from our wonderful ever increasing in members forum :)

funny how they mock on their own tiny forum and yet spy here each chance they get...

nice :)

not even colloidal silver will save your asses :)

furry wanderers?? lol - whoever they are I can deal with them ^^

[alzee]

Some good info showing the differences between the various Silver Colloid products available out there:

There are three distinctly different types of silver that are labeled and sold on the market as “colloidal silver”; they are ionic silver, silver protein, and true colloidal silver. Consumers seeking true colloidal silver are often at a disadvantage because each of these products represents themselves as colloidal silver.

Commercial Product Reports provide detailed laboratory analysis of colloidal products. Tests are performed by the Colloidal Science Laboratory, Inc.(CSL) using a uniform set of analytical measurements. The information contained in these reports is provided as a service to educate consumers, and is not intended to promote any particular product. CSL does not receive funding for its work from manufacturers, and anyone can submit a product for testing.

Scientific product testing performed by CSL is an unbiased examination of the physical properties of colloids using the best scientific methods and equipment available. The equipment used to perform the analyses is calibrated to standards traceable to the National Institute of Standards & Technology, and the personnel performing the measurements are skilled in the use of the equipment.

The instruments used to perform the tests are described in detail and the test methods are fully revealed so that the entire suite of product tests can be duplicated by others. See Determining Properties for technical details about how the laboratory analysis is performed. Detailed lab analysis for the products shown in the table is available by clicking on the product name in the table.

Before exploring the reports, charts, graphs, and details of the tests, it is important to have a basic understanding of the three types of products that are marketed as Colloidal Silver.

Types of Colloidal Silver

The three types of products that consumers find labeled as “colloidal silver” can be categorized as follows: ionic silver solutions , silver protein, and true colloidal silver .

Ionic Silver Solutions
The vast majority of products labeled and sold as colloidal silver fall into this category due to the low degree of manufacturing complexity and resulting low cost of production. The silver content in these products consists of both silver ions and silver particles. Typically, 90% of the silver content is in the form of ionic silver and the remaining 10% of the silver content is in the form of silver particles. The silver ions are produced by electrolysis and may be described as “dissolved silver”. Products produced by electrolysis are frequently described as "electro colloids". Because the majority of the silver content in these products is dissolved silver rather than metallic silver particles, it would be more technically accurate to describe these products as silver solutions.

Confusingly, ads for these products frequently claim that silver ions are small silver particles or describe the product as consisting of ionic silver particles. Silver ions are not the same as silver particles and the two terms are not interchangeable. Ionic silver is also referred to as monatomic silver and silver hydrosol by some producers who choose not to describe their products using the scientifically correct terminology. These are marketing terms used to hide the truth that what is being sold is an ionic silver solution. For more details read About Ionic Silver.

How To Tell If A Product Is Mostly Ionic Silver

Silver solutions are typically clear like water or have a slight yellow tint. These products are clear because silver that is dissolved in water looks just like sugar or salt that is dissolved in water; it has no visible appearance. The producers of ionic silver solutions will suggest that colloidal silver should look like clear water, but this is incorrect.

Companies that sell ionic silver claim that their product is "true colloidal silver" in an attempt to confuse the buyer. Do not be fooled. If the product is clear, then it is ionic silver, not a true silver colloid. Colloidal particles, when present in sufficient concentration, absorb visible light causing the colloid to exhibit an "apparent color". The apparent color is the complement of the absorbed wavelength. Silver ions do not absorb visible light and therefore appear as clear colorless liquids.

Many producers of ionic silver recommend that the product be stored only in glass containers. Some specify only amber or cobalt glass bottles because their products are photosensitive and deteriorate when exposed to light. True colloids do not have these issues.

How To Test for Ionic Silver

To figure out whether a solution is ionic silver, you only need add chloride ions. Common table salt, which is sodium chloride, will do. If silver ions are present the chloride ions will combine with the silver ions and create a white, cloudy appearance. To form a cloud that is visible requires that a sufficient concentration of silver ions be present, typically about 10 ppm or above. Simply place 1-2 ounces of ionic silver in a clear glass. Add a few grains of table salt. Observe whether, as the salt dissolves, a white cloud of silver chloride forms in the solution. If so, eventually, the entire solution will turn cloudy. If more salt is added, the white silver chloride will become denser until all the silver ions have combined with the available chlorine ions. If no silver ions are present then no white cloud will form. Here’s the rub: Some products will not make a white cloud of silver chloride when table salt is added because they contain no silver at all, or very little silver. Believe it or not, lab analysis has shown that some "silver" products actually contain no silver!

The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the fact that silver ions combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride and silver particles do not.

Safe usage

“Colloidal silver” generators sold to home hobbyists all produce ionic silver solutions. Because ionic silver products contain a low percentage of their silver content in the form of particles, they all have a fairly low particle surface area relative to the total silver content. Ionic silver is not without merit. Ionic silver is a strong anti microbial and serves well in situations where chloride is not present. When chloride is present (inside the human body), the silver particle content will survive to produce benefit.

Ionic silver products, when taken according to the manufacturers recommended dosage, will not cause argyria, a condition that causes the skin to turn blue-gray.

TechnoBabble, Misleading Language and Bogus Science

The term colloidal means particles not ions, but producers of ionic silver products will try to convince the buyer that their product is a silver colloid. The common thread in most advertisements selling ionic silver products (labeled as colloidal silver) is to claim that ions are silver particles, or they try to blur the distinction by using the terms interchangeably. Another common trick is to display images made from a Transmission Electron Microscope (TEM) that they claim shows the small particles found in their products. These images do not show the silver particles in their products. Read About TEM Images of Ionic Silver Solutions to learn why these images are deceptive and misleading. Another ploy is the use of techno-babble, wherein make-believe technical sounding terms are used to impress the non-technical reader. Techno-babble attempts to draw the reader’s attention away from the real science and focus on nonsensical but important sounding terms and ideas. In a related approach, advertising or labels will include scientific-sounding explanations that use terms from other fields of science that are not applicable to the chemistry of solutions and colloids. For example, in the field of nuclear science, a particle is considered to be any atomic object whose weight is greater or equal to the weight of an electron. Attempting to define a silver ion as a particle by using this definition is the essence of what is commonly referred to as bogus science. For examples of techno-babble and bogus science, click here.

List of Ionic Silver Products

Click here for a partial list of ionic silver products by brand name.

Related Information

The Truth About Ionic Silver
The Truth About TEM Images of Ionic Silver Solutions
Silver Protein (a/k/a Mild Silver Protein)
Silver protein products are the second most prevalent type of so-called colloidal silver products on the market. These products consist of a combination of metallic silver particles and a protein binder, and can easily be produced by simply adding water to silver protein powder sold by various chemical companies.

Most products claiming to be high concentrations of colloidal silver (typically in the range of 30 to 20,000 ppm) are in fact silver protein colloids. While some of these products are labeled as Silver Protein or Mild Silver Protein , many such products are simply labeled as colloidal silver and the word protein does not appear anywhere on the label or in the product advertising literature.

Silver protein products generally have very large silver particles, so large that they would not remain suspended as colloidal particles without protein additives. Protein additives help to keep the large particles from settling. While various protein binders may be used, the protein most commonly used is gelatin , which is made by boiling the skin, tendons, and ligaments of animals. For large metallic silver particles to remain suspended in water, they need additional buoyancy to keep from sinking. Gelatin molecules will encapsulate each particle of silver and add enough buoyancy so that it does not sink to the bottom. The presence of gelatin creates a risk of bacteria and is one of the dangers of taking this product.

Of the three types of colloidal silver, silver protein products have the lowest particle surface area for a given silver concentration , making the silver inaccessible for safe human absorption and less effective for human use. Particle surface area, as we will cover later, is the single most important determinant of colloidal silver effectiveness. Click here for scanning electron microscope (SEM) images of silver protein products that clearly show the very large size of the silver particles (which appear to range in size from about 100 nm up to 10,000 nm with some much larger).

Testing For Silver Protein

To find out whether you have a silver protein product rather than a true silver colloid, look for these characteristics:

Makes foam: When shaken, a silver protein product produces foam above the liquid that will persist for minutes after being shaken. This is probably the single most reliable indicator. Even when the product label identifies the product simply as colloidal silver and never mentions the word protein, this indicator will signal the presence of a protein binder. Shake the bottle and look for foaming. When the foam persists, protein is present.
Concentration: Silver protein products tend to have very high concentration values, typically in the range of 30 to 20,000 ppm. Concentration is expressed in parts per million (ppm) and is numerically the same as milligrams of silver per liter of water (mg/L).
Color: The color ranges from light amber to almost black with an increasing concentration of silver.
Dangers

Due to the high concentration of large silver particles, silver protein products are known to cause argyria, a condition that causes the skin to turn blue-gray. These and other dangers associated with silver protein are described in About Silver Protein Products.
Adding protein to colloidal silver is also potentially unsafe because of bacteria, according to Professor Ronald Gibbs who discussed this fact in his booklet " Silver Colloids". He found "mild silver protein" products that had live bacteria growing on the protein. This can happen when protein is mixed with colloidal silver because the protein molecules are large and encapsulate the silver particles, which prevent the silver from reaching the bacteria to kill it. Normally, it would be impossible for bacteria to live in colloidal silver, but it is common in products containing protein. For this reason, Professor Gibbs recommended that silver protein products should be avoided. Here is the quote from Professor Gibbs book concerning use of protein to stabilize colloidal silver: "A fifth sample considered showed fuzzy clusters around silver particles when viewed in water . . . . As suspected, this fuzzy material fluoresced indicating the material was, indeed, live bacteria growing on the gelatin that had apparently been used to stabilize the colloidal silver suspension. In Figure 3A the black dots inside the fuzzy mass are the silver particles. This sample exhibits the poor quality control that is totally unacceptable in this type of product. This sample was removed from further consideration and analysis .” Professor Gibbs’ book "Silver Colloids, Do They Work?" can be downloaded here.
List of Silver Protein-Based Products

Click here for a partial list of silver protein-based products by brand name.

Related Information

The Truth About Silver Protein Products
The Truth About Colloid Particle Size
True Colloidal Silver
True colloidal silver products are the least prevalent type of colloidal silver on the market due to high degree of manufacturing complexity and the resulting high cost of production.

In true colloidal silver, the majority of the silver content is in the form of silver particles. True colloids will typically contain more than 50% particles (often 50 – 80%), while the balance (20% to 49%) will be silver ions. When referring to colloidal silver, the word colloid means silver particles.

The two critical factors to look for in determining true colloids are the percentage of silver particles and the particle surface area.

Of all the types of silver marketed as colloidal, true colloidal silver products have the highest particle surface area. High particle surface area is achieved by a high percentage of silver particles combined with very small sized particles. Of the three types of silver on the market, true silver colloids have the highest particle surface area relative to the total silver content. The ratio of particle surface area to total silver content indicates how efficiently the colloid is able to produce particle surface area which determines effectiveness. Higher conversion efficiencies are more desirable.

The nanometer-sized particles in true silver colloids remain in colloidal suspension without requiring protein or other additives. It is the mutual repulsion of the particles created by the zeta potential charge that keeps the particles uniformly distributed in the colloid.

Determining True Silver Colloids

Because of the high concentration of silver particles, true silver colloids are never clear like water. True colloidal silver with a sufficient concentration of particles does not look like water because silver particles -- even very small particles -- block light from passing through, making the liquid appear darker.

Dangers

Due to the very low concentration of ionic silver and small particle size, true silver colloids do not cause argyria, a condition that causes the skin to turn blue-gray.

List of True Colloidal Silver Products

Click here for a partial list of true silver colloid products by brand name.

Source (http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html)

[steevo]

Have any of you who have used colloidal silver had it cure anything ? Eg. Have you rubbed some of the gel on some eczema for example, and it has made it go away ?

[vienna]

bump

[alzee]

Could a Mod move this thread to the Medical section please? It gets lost so quickly in General.

[vienna]

no keep it here

hardly anyone visits that thread more people need to see it with the swine flu outbreak

[alzee]

And for those worried about Argyria, here's a cure discussed on another forum:

The original post on the formula for Argyria Cured:

About two months ago, I was contacted by an individual with an amazing story:

This individual utilized 32 ounces of silver chloride daily for 2.5 years and cured a very late stage case of Nuerosyphilis.

The silver chloride was produced in ten minute batches using the 3 nine's method of production with no controls.

I have since spent quite some time on the phone with this individual.

The second part of this story:

By ingesting large amounts of a high concentration silver salt, the individual acquired argyria. It was likely a bit more severe than Stan Jones, but certainly not an aggravated condition like Rosemary Jacobs' agryria. It was bad enough to turn heads in a grocery store.

However, this individual didn't stop with eliminating his lethal condition. He also reversed the argyria.

Many have long discussed the possibility of using Vitamin E, Selenium, and other supplements with a cleansing program to reverse the condition, however, we've never seen someone actually accomplish it. It took six months of dedicated effort, but the individual's skin complexion returned to absolute normal.

Furthermore, the individual stopped taking the supplement program, resumed silver use, and his skin began to change once again. Whereby he resumed the supplementation, and the skin returned to normal.

Apparently, the silver build-up in the body when it reaches high enough levels to deposit visible silver in the skin is quite extensive. The process of removal is slow, but effective.

Furthermore, the individual actually had spirochetes in the eyes; the only thing that remains is slight scar tissue, and the individual, who was losing the use of the eyes, can see perfectly fine.

The list of symptoms with such an event is extensive. The individual was near liver failure, and within three months of initial silver use, was all but completely restored to full health. Fevers spiking 3-5 times daily, a chronic and severe lung infection, inflammation of the liver, shut down of the body's elimination systems, loss of reduction of cognitive ability, extreme and disabling fatigue are among the symptoms that fell to the power of this... Silver Chloride.

Obviously silver choride as a product is not equal to the superior isolated silver products. However, the question remains: Would consuming isolated silver have delivered enough actual silver content to the body to be effective in this case?

A Cure for Argyria: The Formula

3 Vitamin E 1000 mg 100% Natural d-alpha Tocopheryl ( note that this can be a dangerous amount of Vitamin E )

1 Selenium 100mcg yeast free

2 vegetarian Vitamin C 1000 mg

1 teaspoon MSM organic

1 super potency Vitamin B 100,

1 teaspoon of Kelp powder:



Taken every morning with 2 16oz glasses of water, with close to a total of 3/4 of a gallon drinking water a day.

Source (http://www.eytonsearth.org/forum/about7.html)

[vividchild]

I was rather hoping someone would have some information on the dose :confused:

I can't seem to find the information on the website: http://www.nutronix.com/ I really want to try it, after being nervous to for so long. I have an ongoing UTI plus this flu business is a bit of a concern. Has anyone used this company? I got the link from a health freedom email. I can't find a health freedom forum either... perhaps I'm just crap at finding things online :rolleyes:

[xpleet]

I was rather hoping someone would have some information on the dose :confused:

I can't seem to find the information on the website: http://www.nutronix.com/ I really want to try it, after being nervous to for so long. I have an ongoing UTI plus this flu business is a bit of a concern. Has anyone used this company? I got the link from a health freedom email. I can't find a health freedom forum either... perhaps I'm just crap at finding things online :rolleyes:

10 ppm (parts per million/miligram) for internal use is the most accepted standard in colloidal silver today.

A higher ppm count does not necessarily mean more effectiveness. In fact it's rather the opposite. What you want is a silver solution, which consists of as many silver particles, smallest particle size possible.
The higher the silvermass, the bigger the particles become, because they cluster together. This is why 10ppm seems to be the most effective solution. 30ppm appears to be a standard solution sold for use as a disinfectant.

If you plan on using silver on a daily basis, as a preventive for use over months i strongly recommend you get a proper "Silver Generator" so you can produce it yourself. On the longrun this is actually cheaper than buying jar after jar after month.
What these "generators" do, is they go between electrodes and power in, checking the water conductivity (amongst other factors which are influencing how much silver is put to water/per minute) and regulate the output voltage in order to produce always the same amount of silver contribution to the water, so you can accurately produce the silver dosis according to a specific time table. My generator cost me 200€ but it's effective as it produces fast, a 10ppm solution in 200ml in 6 minutes. The device is to be used with an outlet timer-clock.

It's a true killer, in 2 jars with burger bread in them, i sprayed 10ppm for one and 30ppm solution for the other, so far after 3 days not a sign of mold.
I use it for internal use, drinking, swallowing it immediatly on a plastic spoon, i also spray it on my teeth to prevent cavities aswell as in a nasal spray, but it does not help my running nose, starting 4 weeks ago, due to my allergy to pollen.

[xpleet]

Come on folks, the Argyria scare is absolutely ridiculous.

It happened with people who either dispersed silver in mineral water or took silver nitrate.

[cruise4]

I've been using it on and off for about 16 months, and so has my mum and brother. No problems whatsoever and it does seem to knock stuff "deader than a hammer" to quote AJ. My CS maker arrived non-working so until I get the replacement back I have no experience of making it.

[bowtiedaddy]

Anybody here take colloidal silver? I have been taking it daily for 18 months, touch wood, not had a bad cold in that time, the odd 1 or 2 day ones:)
Here's a link with info:-

http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

yeah. It does some nice things.