1st Crop Circle - UK!!

[lightbeing]

Hi all,

The first crop circle of this season has appeared in Oliver's Castle, Nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Good times:) :)

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/oliverscastle/oliverscastle2007.html

It is a lovely start, formation looks genuine to me:) I will be planning as many days to Wiltshire as I can:)
Anyone else interested in Crop Circles??

[shadow cat]

Thanks lightbeing !! I for one really love Crop Circles and have followed them for many years now. I love the simplistic shape of this one, and it looks genuine.

[lightbeing]

Thanks lightbeing !! I for one really love Crop Circles and have followed them for many years now. I love the simplistic shape of this one, and it looks genuine.

Morning shadow cat,

Indeed, this is a great start for what could be an amazing year!......:)

As the report says, most of the crop has sprung back up. Hoaxing can't replicate that effect!:)

[truthcommission]

From website:
The pattern spans across 333 ft of the field with the outer ring of the main circle measuring 33 ft width. Seven arcs, each approximately 5ft wide cut through the central body of the circle.

That occult number again...

[emma royds]

Hi all,

The first crop circle of this season has appeared in Oliver's Castle, Nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Good times:) :)

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/oliverscastle/oliverscastle2007.html

It is a lovely start, formation looks genuine to me:) I will be planning as many days to Wiltshire as I can:)
Anyone else interested in Crop Circles??


Glad you like it Lightbeing, it took me 4 hours to do that one. LOL

[shadow cat]

I agree.....4ft high crop of rape seed....can't see that it was done by humans somehow. Wayyyy too hard! I envy you being able to go and have a look at the crop circles....I live in New Zealand 7.49pm Thursday here :-)

[lightbeing]

I agree.....4ft high crop of rape seed....can't see that it was done by humans somehow. Wayyyy too hard! I envy you being able to go and have a look at the crop circles....I live in New Zealand 7.49pm Thursday here :-)

Just an hours drive, for the circle capital of the world!;) One advantage of living in the London area!;)

[lightbeing]

Glad you like it Lightbeing, it took me 4 hours to do that one. LOL

Methinks you are telling porkies emma!:p

[lottie]

wow cheers for sharing that light!! very simplistic shape, how many do we get on average per year? ive seen a few on the net but didnt realise we got many over here... shame its not closer...i'd love to go and look at one!! i hear from a friend who's been to one that the energy inside them and around them can be quite intense!:eek:

[lookfar]

Hi LB, great thread there thanks for sharing!! :)

I love the pattern & the numerology is certainly there too!!

Oh I'm so excited it's crop circle time again, can't wait to go see some more soon. Lottie are you up for some crop circle exploration honey???:) :D

[lottie]

just you try n stop me lookfar!!! :D ;)

[lookfar]

just you try n stop me lookfar!!! :D ;)

Hehe great stuff!!:D ;) Let's keep our eyes peeled on the crop circle websites & be spontanious, drop everything & go visit eh?:cool: Could get some more cool pics to post as well...:)

[thirdwave]

Hi all,

The first crop circle of this season has appeared in Oliver's Castle, Nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Good times:) :)

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/oliverscastle/oliverscastle2007.html

It is a lovely start, formation looks genuine to me:) I will be planning as many days to Wiltshire as I can:)
Anyone else interested in Crop Circles??

Yeah I shall be going to the Barge Inn as much as I can this summer....

I think that circle is man made although, they did say that the half the crops where not snapped and still grew...and the others had been crushed.... quite odd and makes you think are some people trying to wipe out evidence....

this circle is the kind of circle men can make given the amount of time it was there unseen..... but how did they crush the crops with out snapping them?

Its quite early this circle as well, hopefully a good season ahead...

[indigo]

I'm facinated by crop circles. I was watching a programme about them and there was video footage of an orb creating the pattern really quick:confused:

[thirdwave]

I'm facinated by crop circles. I was watching a programme about them and there was video footage of an orb creating the pattern really quick:confused:

people see the orbs all the time... but most of the videos are officially debunked... but in strange ways....

the one I think you saw was originally reported by one man.... then 2 other men mysteriously reported it, and then admitted it was a hoax, when the actual circle seen being made ...was actually there the time the video was reported....

you can never tell, as peaceful as the place is, I also there feel there is a nasty presents there of debunkers... some of the people who make some circles are very cold and ignorant to the real circles .... and I think there are many ex servicemen there that are always happy to help cover things up, and I think get quite heavy handed if they have to.....

they just need to put enough out there for sceptics to cling to and they do enough to keep the scenario under control.... once something comes up they cant counter they get involved I think... and they are watching closer than people think.... many black helicopters are seen around...

[thirdwave]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6009948474707432943&q=crop+circle

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.




TRY AND LOOK AT THESE GUYS IN THE EYE >>> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1869416419896239372&q=crop+circle



THIS LOOKS QUITE REAL TO ME, ALLTHOUGH I CANT SEEM TO SPOT THE ORB.... >>> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6711039355894267803&q=Helicopter%2C+CROP+CIRCLE

[lottie]

my friend had a very serious time a few yrs ago, he and his wife were experiencing what they called paranormal activity (very negative though) and some of the stuff he told me was unbelievable, the activity got so bad that it eventually lead to the death of his wife as she could no longer cope with the stress of it all...(this was after several years) he is a very trustworthy man and i didnt doubt his story for a minute, he also wrote a book about it and let me read through it before it was published. My point being .... he told me about a time when he and his wife were in the flat and his wife walked into the lounge to find a 'crop circle' on their carpet...it was a deep pile carpet but it literally appeared from no-where and wouldn't go for days and days after a year or so the landlord wanted some work done on the ground level flat and that flat was unnoccupied at the time, well, the workmen discovered a type of well under the floor and it had a lid on it... the landlord told them not to take the lid off and just to carry on what they were doing and ignore the brick cylindrical structure (the history of the house was very sickening too)....my friend said they went down to look at it and that was when they realised that the well thingy was directly under their flat and the circumfrence of the well was exactly the same as the 'carpet circle' they had discovered in the lounge.... i think it was to do with energies and magnetism of some kind, i was wondering if these crop circles we do have in fields and things are actually appearing due to the energy underneath them in the ground?? i mean i dont know much about crop circles but it would be a good theory...:confused:

[thirdwave]

my friend had a very serious time a few yrs ago, he and his wife were experiencing what they called paranormal activity (very negative though) and some of the stuff he told me was unbelievable, the activity got so bad that it eventually lead to the death of his wife as she could no longer cope with the stress of it all...(this was after several years) he is a very trustworthy man and i didnt doubt his story for a minute, he also wrote a book about it and let me read through it before it was published. My point being .... he told me about a time when he and his wife were in the flat and his wife walked into the lounge to find a 'crop circle' on their carpet...it was a deep pile carpet but it literally appeared from no-where and wouldn't go for days and days after a year or so the landlord wanted some work done on the ground level flat and that flat was unnoccupied at the time, well, the workmen discovered a type of well under the floor and it had a lid on it... the landlord told them not to take the lid off and just to carry on what they were doing and ignore the brick cylindrical structure (the history of the house was very sickening too)....my friend said they went down to look at it and that was when they realised that the well thingy was directly under their flat and the circumfrence of the well was exactly the same as the 'carpet circle' they had discovered in the lounge.... i think it was to do with energies and magnetism of some kind, i was wondering if these crop circles we do have in fields and things are actually appearing due to the energy underneath them in the ground?? i mean i dont know much about crop circles but it would be a good theory...:confused:



I have heard or seen on the net somewhere that many if not all of the crop circles do seem to appear in airiers where water is detected under the earth... so it may well have allot to do with the ways they are made....

as for negative enterties and good ones... I think the negative ones can only trick you into be afraid as in reality they have no power over you at all..... it is you who is in control... and they can only trick you into them being in control.... they are the ones in the shit not us.

[tru3]

From website:


That occult number again...

fascinating. it's obvious to me that information is being conveyed here; these designs appear to be more than the sum of their parts.

sometimes when i look at these things, i feel like a dog watching television, know what i mean? :D i know there's something on the screen, i just don't know what i'm looking at.

does anybody here have a link to a reliable source of the mathematical language of these circles? it's so hard to separate the wheat from the chaff (pun intended :) )

[thirdwave]

the thing is also, Is there are some People that admit to making some of the circles... but are also very open to the fact some are not human.... they have also reported not really being sure where they get the ideas from and also have seen orbs around them when they make the circles....

so you have ...

Some people who claime to make all the circles and its all a scam and they mock people who think they are anything more

you have some people who say they have made some but still claim there is an un human element to them...

and you get people who have researched them and seen tangible evidence that some of the circles can not be made in the way the circle makers claim they are making them....

In reply to tru3's question... There was a website with this guy who claims to have communicated with them via his own made circles.... infact he claimed to have created a circle asking questions and the year later got a reply... and this lead to the big alien head circle..... in the links above...

his website had some videos on reading the circles and stuff but I cant find it now..., cant remember his name...

[lightbeing]

wow cheers for sharing that light!! very simplistic shape, how many do we get on average per year? ive seen a few on the net but didnt realise we got many over here... shame its not closer...i'd love to go and look at one!! i hear from a friend who's been to one that the energy inside them and around them can be quite intense!:eek:


Hi lottie,

Last year was a big drop in the number of formations compared to 2005, 80ish down to 40ish. Though last years formations were pointing at vortices and inter-dimensional portals.:eek: :)
I think Wiltshire may not be us far as you think...........;)

[21_12_2012]

Hi all,

The first crop circle of this season has appeared in Oliver's Castle, Nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Good times:) :)

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/oliverscastle/oliverscastle2007.html

It is a lovely start, formation looks genuine to me:) I will be planning as many days to Wiltshire as I can:)
Anyone else interested in Crop Circles??

Good stuff. I've been into crop circles for a couple of years now.
Not had chance to go down to Wiltshire yet but will definately get there eventually.
www.cropcircleconnector.com is a brilliant website, probably the best.
Keep your eyes open for more complex circles later in the year, they get more intricate every year.

[21_12_2012]

my friend had a very serious time a few yrs ago, he and his wife were experiencing what they called paranormal activity (very negative though) and some of the stuff he told me was unbelievable, the activity got so bad that it eventually lead to the death of his wife as she could no longer cope with the stress of it all...(this was after several years) he is a very trustworthy man and i didnt doubt his story for a minute, he also wrote a book about it and let me read through it before it was published. My point being .... he told me about a time when he and his wife were in the flat and his wife walked into the lounge to find a 'crop circle' on their carpet...it was a deep pile carpet but it literally appeared from no-where and wouldn't go for days and days after a year or so the landlord wanted some work done on the ground level flat and that flat was unnoccupied at the time, well, the workmen discovered a type of well under the floor and it had a lid on it... the landlord told them not to take the lid off and just to carry on what they were doing and ignore the brick cylindrical structure (the history of the house was very sickening too)....my friend said they went down to look at it and that was when they realised that the well thingy was directly under their flat and the circumfrence of the well was exactly the same as the 'carpet circle' they had discovered in the lounge.... i think it was to do with energies and magnetism of some kind, i was wondering if these crop circles we do have in fields and things are actually appearing due to the energy underneath them in the ground?? i mean i dont know much about crop circles but it would be a good theory...:confused:

That's a mindblowing story, wow !

[midwich cuckoo]

Wonder what happens when you spin this one?.

Anyone know of a way to make pictures spin on a PC?, if you don't know what I mean, click on the 'Spinning Crop Circle' link in my sig. ;)

Also check out this thread - The Secret Of Crop Circles (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2202&highlight=secret+crop+circles)

[heretic]

Lightbeing that cropcircle you presented looks fake to me. :confused:

Some of the more complicated ones seem unexplained that's for sure.

[graflok]

Compare this crop circle with this video:

link to video

Could this be the intended message?


graflok

[emma royds]

Glad you like it Lightbeing, it took me 4 hours to do that one. LOL


Me thinks your right, but i'm on the fence with this crop circle business, I've seen some pretty good ones done by people. I watch a program several years back and it showed these guys doing one, and it was pretty impressive, it actually looked more complex than the one in the picture you posted, so who knows.

[emma royds]

Compare this crop circle ...

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/oliverscastle/OliverCastle34.jpg

... with this video:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/93/earthdv7.jpg

link to video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI)

Could this be the intended message?


graflok

It's a planet with seven rings.

[emma royds]

Lightbeing that cropcircle you presented looks fake to me. :confused:

Some of the more complicated ones seem unexplained that's for sure.


Well I agree, it is not a difficult one to achieve as said I've seen more complex crop circle actually done by people. Still interesting never the less, crop circles are more artist than most of the art displayed in modern art galleries

[who elsie]

Compare this crop circle with this video:

link to video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI)

Could this be the intended message?


graflok

Cool vid & a very interesting theory!

Great to see the crop circle season underway again. Hope this year is more fruitful than last, which was one of the slowest on record. I hope to get down to Wiltshire at some point in the summer too. If you've not been inside a crop circle formation, do try and do the same (we do have a unique opportunity to experience something amazing here in the UK). You get a whole new perspective on them from inside them. The genuine ones are simply stunning inside and out.

[thirdwave]

Me thinks your right, but i'm on the fence with this crop circle business, I've seen some pretty good ones done by people. I watch a program several years back and it showed these guys doing one, and it was pretty impressive, it actually looked more complex than the one in the picture you posted, so who knows.



Its not so much the designs nowadays although some are way to complexed for humans.... but its the way they have been done... some are clearly proven to have crushed crops... where you can see board marks that have crushed and killed the crops.... but others have been left undamaged and have not only grown after but have infact grown longer then the other crops...., and the ones man made have about 7 or 8 people done in day light that have took about 7 hours...

many crop circles appear over night un noticed....

infact there was on on milk hill with 420 circles covering a whole field 900 ft!!!! in diameter...(compared to the usual man made ones of 90-200 foot....)

again this crop circle left the crops un damaged...it was weaven, the only damage was down when people walked on the crops...

the guy that claimed to communicate using the circles is the best man made crop circle maker..... and he even admits that many are not man made.... 1 crop circle maker was mocking this researcher for looking into it and challenging him saying they were not all man made.... the debunker guy told him to go and ask, cant remember his name, the guy who makes the good ones... he asked him to go and ask him how good man made ones can be..... so the researcher did.... and the good circle maker when asked new of the guy who had been mocking the researcher and rolled his eyes and said some comment about how he knew all about that circle maker and how un clued up he was....

Man can start making the best looking crop circles in the world but until they make them leaving the same effects after then its still a phenomena...

that being said the man made ones are still some way off the more complexed designs....

most circle makers are just typical debunkers.... and you can tell this by just the way they are.... ignorance

[mcmenek1]

Hi lightbeing,

Thanks for the link.......interesting circle.......I love crop formations, I know that some are man made but I think this is a ploy to rubbish the whole crop circle phenomena.

Interesting observation there truthcommision
Quote:
"The pattern spans across 333 ft of the field with the outer ring of the main circle measuring 33 ft width. Seven arcs, each approximately 5ft wide cut through the central body of the circle."

In my Avatar I can see the vibrations of 3, 33 and 333......let me explain there are what look like 3 flying birds this give us 3..........behind the flying birds there are 30 circles in total, 30 circles plus 3 flying birds gives us the 33.............if you look at the back edge of the wings of the 3 flying birds you can see what looks like the figure 3 this gives us 333.

http://www.unn13.com/images/birdscc.jpg

Are these crop formations trying to tell us something......do they contain positive subconscious messages for us.......for example attaching the vibrations of 3, 33, 333 to positive images......my intuition tells me that they are.

If you read my Thread “Vibrations and Negative Events” you will know that the vibrations of 3, 33 and 333 are the female frequencies that balance up the 3rd dimension that we live in......and you will also know that these are the frequencies that “The Powers That Be” are constantly attaching negativity to.....the latest massacre in the U.S.A. being a prime example i.e. 33 dead.

Is our beloved planet earth telling us subconsciously that these are the vibrational frequencies she needs to rebalance her self and we need to rebalance ourselves........ my intuition tells me.....that she is.........:)

Interesting video there graflok..........:)

Love
&
Peace

[lightbeing]

Hi lightbeing,

Thanks for the link.......interesting circle.......I love crop formations, I know that some are man made but I think this is a ploy to rubbish the whole crop circle phenomena.

Interesting observation there truthcommision
Quote:
"The pattern spans across 333 ft of the field with the outer ring of the main circle measuring 33 ft width. Seven arcs, each approximately 5ft wide cut through the central body of the circle."

In my Avatar I can see the vibrations of 3, 33 and 333......let me explain there are what look like 3 flying birds this give us 3..........behind the flying birds there are 30 circles in total, 30 circles plus 3 flying birds gives us the 33.............if you look at the back edge of the wings of the 3 flying birds you can see what looks like the figure 3 this gives us 333.

http://www.unn13.com/images/birdscc.jpg

Are these crop formations trying to tell us something......do they contain positive subconscious messages for us.......for example attaching the vibrations of 3, 33, 333 to positive images......my intuition tells me that they are.

If you read my Thread “Vibrations and Negative Events” you will know that the vibrations of 3, 33 and 333 are the female frequencies that balance up the 3rd dimension that we live in......and you will also know that these are the frequencies that “The Powers That Be” are constantly attaching negativity to.....the latest massacre in the U.S.A. being a prime example i.e. 33 dead.

Is our beloved planet earth telling us subconsciously that these are the vibrational frequencies she needs to rebalance her self and we need to rebalance ourselves........ my intuition tells me.....that she is.........:)

Interesting video there graflok..........:)

Love
&
Peace

Good post, I agree, feels right to me:)

[mcmenek1]

my friend had a very serious time a few yrs ago, he and his wife were experiencing what they called paranormal activity (very negative though) and some of the stuff he told me was unbelievable, the activity got so bad that it eventually lead to the death of his wife as she could no longer cope with the stress of it all...(this was after several years) he is a very trustworthy man and i didnt doubt his story for a minute, he also wrote a book about it and let me read through it before it was published. My point being .... he told me about a time when he and his wife were in the flat and his wife walked into the lounge to find a 'crop circle' on their carpet...it was a deep pile carpet but it literally appeared from no-where and wouldn't go for days and days after a year or so the landlord wanted some work done on the ground level flat and that flat was unnoccupied at the time, well, the workmen discovered a type of well under the floor and it had a lid on it... the landlord told them not to take the lid off and just to carry on what they were doing and ignore the brick cylindrical structure (the history of the house was very sickening too)....my friend said they went down to look at it and that was when they realised that the well thingy was directly under their flat and the circumfrence of the well was exactly the same as the 'carpet circle' they had discovered in the lounge.... i think it was to do with energies and magnetism of some kind, i was wondering if these crop circles we do have in fields and things are actually appearing due to the energy underneath them in the ground?? i mean i dont know much about crop circles but it would be a good theory...:confused:


Hi lottie,

Very interesting story there.......underground water does give off energy, that's what dowsers detect when they look for water above ground........water also reacts to positive and negative emotion as discovered by Masuro Emoto......a lot of these crop circles do appear above or near ley lines so yes I would agree with your theory that the earth energy probably has a connection to them.........:)

Love
&
Peace

[21_12_2012]

Me thinks your right, but i'm on the fence with this crop circle business, I've seen some pretty good ones done by people. I watch a program several years back and it showed these guys doing one, and it was pretty impressive, it actually looked more complex than the one in the picture you posted, so who knows.

I agree...many good ones can be faked, and are being faked...but I also think that the fakers are debunkers of crop circles...they do it to put people off the trail of what is real and what is not.
I would like to see anyone make a circle like the one on my avatar...it is mathematically perfect. It's quite large as well if you look near the centre closely to the right, there is a person in there the size of a couple of dots on the screen...it's quite a big circle.

[tru3]

Compare this crop circle with this video:

link to video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI)

Could this be the intended message?


graflok

wow. that is an awesome video, graflok. nice find, as usual. :)

the landlord told them not to take the lid off and just to carry on what they were doing and ignore the brick cylindrical structure (the history of the house was very sickening too)....my friend said they went down to look at it and that was when they realised that the well thingy was directly under their flat and the circumfrence of the well was exactly the same as the 'carpet circle' they had discovered in the lounge

i'm just going to throw out something here and see if it sticks...

what if, just what if, there's more than one source for crop circles?

what if it's the earth that is trying to talk to us?

Apache Formations - Jim Lyons

Strange and potentially suspicious activities by Apache helicopters are well recorded. {how about www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/23/ebay_black_helicopter/}. They are known for special missions activities in which a variety of sensor packs and weapons are carried. So what, if anything, is there a potential link with the crop circle scenario? The suggestion is there could well be!

Crop Circle formations are basically a natural phenomenon, having had various `outbreaks` in the first half of the 20th century. Examples are the 1920s events in North Yorkshire and the South Downs formations during WW 2. With no media hype, they remained largely un-noticed except by the local communities. Since around 1990, there has been increasing serious investigation into the processes involved. Not surprisingly, there is remarkable connectivity with ancient sites, particularly Stone Circles - they share a common earth energy heritage. There are two key elements associated with their creation.

The first is the Energy Line System associated with their formation. These patterns are cosmic in Nature and are highly active in terms of their movement at both Equinoxes and Solstices. In fact the directional nature of energy in these lines dictates which directions the crop flows ( Newark`s Rules)

The second is the earth acupuncture point structure(Chakra). This is in the form of a Spider`s Web pattern detectable in the earth. The form of this which is well understood dictates the basic pattern of the formation. The third but separate feature of Crop Formations is the underground water. There is always water - usually a blind spring, associated with a naturally made formation. This is more than often slightly offset from the centre of the formation (if apparently circular). Similar to Stone Circles, no formation is truly circular though the basic shape is very well defined and emerges directly from the physics involved.

With this background, it is now possible to comment on distinguishing between natural phenomena (Mother Nature), Man made and Machine made formations. Man made ones are readily filtered out since they do not generally obey even the basic rules. Attempts to comply with some published rules however can never create energised crop. Distributions of the energy density across formations follows well established rules. Conventional laboratory tests can confirm the energisation process. The Machine made formations are in a slightly more nebulous category. In principle, they should comply with the guidelines defined by the creation of natural formations. The building blocks to achieve this are now beginning to be well understood.

http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/articles/apache/

could this be disinformation? possibly. lucy pringle's site has been around for years, tho. she does thorough research with follow up, as far as i can tell. great photos too. here's a couple from last july/august:

http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2006/uk2006bu2sm.jpg

http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2006/uk2006at4sm.jpg

http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2006/uk2006arsm.jpg

i do know that the salisbury plain, where many of these circles appear, is situated right smack dab on a major earth grid line.

this is the basic pattern, repeated on a smaller local scale.

http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/images/grid2000a.gif

if gaia is indeed growing, maybe she's growing up, too.

maybe she's learning to talk.

and boy, as far as i can tell, is she pissed! :o

[emma royds]

I agree...many good ones can be faked, and are being faked...but I also think that the fakers are debunkers of crop circles...they do it to put people off the trail of what is real and what is not.
I would like to see anyone make a circle like the one on my avatar...it is mathematically perfect. It's quite large as well if you look near the centre closely to the right, there is a person in there the size of a couple of dots on the screen...it's quite a big circle.

But is it real, or is it photoshop? I'm nor saying they are all fake, but nobody has given a good explanation as to what crap circles actually are or mean.

[thirdwave]

But is it real, or is it photoshop? I'm nor saying they are all fake, but nobody has given a good explanation as to what crap circles actually are or mean.


The Crop Circle connector website is run by a cafe in Wiltshire called The Crop Circle Cafe....


it has a PC there with their website on it and a big map on the wall showing you how you can find all the latest circles,and they are very helpful with giving you directions... so on..... as soon as one appears they put it up on the website for people to know about it and go and see it, if we were there now there is no doubt we could drive to this any circle and see it with our own eyes.....

that is what the website is for.... nothing to do with Photoshop...

[thirdwave]

you want to see a big circle?

check out The mother of all crop circles

further down the page

http://www.circlespeak.net/2001.html


if you look at most circles ...especially the man made ones... they normally cover about 2 or 3 lanes in the field... if you look at this one it covers over 10 lanes...this sill give you an idea of how huge it was.... and anyone that has walked through one of these fields will know how big they are.... for this circle to appear over night, with such pin point accuracy.... and not even damaging the crops!! is amazing.

apparently there was also a storm that night to make it even more difficult.

[hagbard_celine]

Its not so much the designs nowadays although some are way to complexed for humans.... but its the way they have been done... some are clearly proven to have crushed crops... where you can see board marks that have crushed and killed the crops.... but others have been left undamaged and have not only grown after but have infact grown longer then the other crops...., and the ones man made have about 7 or 8 people done in day light that have took about 7 hours...

many crop circles appear over night un noticed....

infact there was on on milk hill with 420 circles covering a whole field 900 ft!!!! in diameter...(compared to the usual man made ones of 90-200 foot....)

again this crop circle left the crops un damaged...it was weaven, the only damage was down when people walked on the crops...

the guy that claimed to communicate using the circles is the best man made crop circle maker..... and he even admits that many are not man made.... 1 crop circle maker was mocking this researcher for looking into it and challenging him saying they were not all man made.... the debunker guy told him to go and ask, cant remember his name, the guy who makes the good ones... he asked him to go and ask him how good man made ones can be..... so the researcher did.... and the good circle maker when asked new of the guy who had been mocking the researcher and rolled his eyes and said some comment about how he knew all about that circle maker and how un clued up he was....

Man can start making the best looking crop circles in the world but until they make them leaving the same effects after then its still a phenomena...

that being said the man made ones are still some way off the more complexed designs....

most circle makers are just typical debunkers.... and you can tell this by just the way they are.... ignorance

The biggest circles surpass the quarter mile mark in extent.

It's odd that most crop circles appear in the south of England during the summer because there's barely 4 or 5 hours of total darkness at night. If I was a planker I'd go abroad to lower lattitudes where you get nice long summer nights.

It also surprises me that the plankers get away with so much without being disturbed during these brief English nights. You'd think they'd occasionally have to run from an angry farmer, leaving the design half-finished.

And how do the plankers manage to make crop circles where the crop's stalks are not broken; rather they are bent over as if they've grown like that? Why do camera batteries run flat and watches stop in circles. How come strage photogrpahic anomalies appear?

I've heard confessions from circlemakers like Matthew Williams, but even they admit that there are some cricles that their community can't account for. I've no doubt that despite the work of the plankers, you can't explain the entire phenomenon in this way.

[klinker]

I've never really paid much attention to crop circles. Being part of the brainwashed masses I believed they were all man made. These places are supposed to be energy centers so I would like to go to these sites to experience the energy. I would hope to feel something.

[lookfar]

wow. that is an awesome video, graflok. nice find, as usual. :)

i'm just going to throw out something here and see if it sticks...

what if, just what if, there's more than one source for crop circles?

what if it's the earth that is trying to talk to us?

Apache Formations - Jim Lyons

Strange and potentially suspicious activities by Apache helicopters are well recorded. {how about www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/23/ebay_black_helicopter/}. They are known for special missions activities in which a variety of sensor packs and weapons are carried. So what, if anything, is there a potential link with the crop circle scenario? The suggestion is there could well be!

Crop Circle formations are basically a natural phenomenon, having had various `outbreaks` in the first half of the 20th century. Examples are the 1920s events in North Yorkshire and the South Downs formations during WW 2. With no media hype, they remained largely un-noticed except by the local communities. Since around 1990, there has been increasing serious investigation into the processes involved. Not surprisingly, there is remarkable connectivity with ancient sites, particularly Stone Circles - they share a common earth energy heritage. There are two key elements associated with their creation.

The first is the Energy Line System associated with their formation. These patterns are cosmic in Nature and are highly active in terms of their movement at both Equinoxes and Solstices. In fact the directional nature of energy in these lines dictates which directions the crop flows ( Newark`s Rules)

The second is the earth acupuncture point structure(Chakra). This is in the form of a Spider`s Web pattern detectable in the earth. The form of this which is well understood dictates the basic pattern of the formation. The third but separate feature of Crop Formations is the underground water. There is always water - usually a blind spring, associated with a naturally made formation. This is more than often slightly offset from the centre of the formation (if apparently circular). Similar to Stone Circles, no formation is truly circular though the basic shape is very well defined and emerges directly from the physics involved.

With this background, it is now possible to comment on distinguishing between natural phenomena (Mother Nature), Man made and Machine made formations. Man made ones are readily filtered out since they do not generally obey even the basic rules. Attempts to comply with some published rules however can never create energised crop. Distributions of the energy density across formations follows well established rules. Conventional laboratory tests can confirm the energisation process. The Machine made formations are in a slightly more nebulous category. In principle, they should comply with the guidelines defined by the creation of natural formations. The building blocks to achieve this are now beginning to be well understood.

could this be disinformation? possibly. lucy pringle's site has been around for years, tho. she does thorough research with follow up, as far as i can tell. great photos too. here's a couple from last july/august:

i do know that the salisbury plain, where many of these circles appear, is situated right smack dab on a major earth grid line.

this is the basic pattern, repeated on a smaller local scale.

if gaia is indeed growing, maybe she's growing up, too.

maybe she's learning to talk.

and boy, as far as i can tell, is she pissed! :o

Hi Tru3, great post there & it certainly rings true with me :)

I reckon Gaia is definitely growing & telling us lots of things here - just need to suss out exactly what's she's saying!! :) I feel everytime I see the circles that there's an important message being relayed, but just can't quite grasp what it is yet, it's a bit frustrating!!

Salisbury Plain is the main centre for them for sure & luckily enough only an hours drive from me, hehe :) :cool:

[thirdwave]

The biggest circles surpass the quarter mile mark in extent.

It's odd that most crop circles appear in the south of England during the summer because there's barely 4 or 5 hours of total darkness at night. If I was a planker I'd go abroad to lower lattitudes where you get nice long summer nights.

It also surprises me that the plankers get away with so much without being disturbed during these brief English nights. You'd think they'd occasionally have to run from an angry farmer, leaving the design half-finished.

And how do the plankers manage to make crop circles where the crop's stalks are not broken; rather they are bent over as if they've grown like that? Why do camera batteries run flat and watches stop in circles. How come strage photogrpahic anomalies appear?

I've heard confessions from circlemakers like Matthew Williams, but even they admit that there are some cricles that their community can't account for. I've no doubt that despite the work of the plankers, you can't explain the entire phenomenon in this way.


yeah.... i have also heard stories of how some people have used Sat Nav to make them.... but all the sat nav things i have used would not work as to use them you should be able to turn on a coin and see a movment.... but with sat navs you have to be moving around 10 miles an hour for it to show any movment.... so i dont know who cooked up that story... unless he makes the circles on a scooter or somthing... it would be harder than useing string...

I think its very clear some people dont want them to be made by something else... some of them make out they can make the complexet one but they have not once re made one to prove it... and you would have thought the method they claim to use doing them, would be easy to re do them as you must have to stick to an acruret method...

not one has been re done... why?

[thirdwave]

I've never really paid much attention to crop circles. Being part of the brainwashed masses I believed they were all man made. These places are supposed to be energy centers so I would like to go to these sites to experience the energy. I would hope to feel something.


Well so far the way the man made ones are made is by having a board under your feet with two bits of string rapped either side you hold onto... and you crush the crops to the floor pushing your foot on the board.... ..this is how they made their crop circles....

but some crop circles found do not have broken crops.... they are weaved and still grow after the circle has been made.... of course some end up damaged due to people walking on them....

so if they are man made then we are yet to find out how they manage to create them without crushing the crops....

so either way we have a phenomena... it has not been worked out yet how these kind are made, so people can assume they are man made but they don't know how men are doing it, they are ignored and people just talk about the man made ones that are normally quite easy to spot as you can see the board marks... these ones are also normaly much smaller than the others allthough when taking a birds eye view pic its easy to see them as the same size.

I think the guy who is really good at making them (damn I wish I could remember his name) actually get permission from the farmers and has more time and space to make them.... he not only thinks some are not man made but thinks he has communicated with them through his circles...

[thirdwave]

this is not the guy i meant but he is another guy who is know for making some pretty good ones... not sure if he made the ones in the pix as the editer would have put those in....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2191565.stm

[klinker]

I'm going to get in my VW van and head on down there sometime and check out these areas. :cool:

[lightbeing]

I've never really paid much attention to crop circles. Being part of the brainwashed masses I believed they were all man made. These places are supposed to be energy centers so I would like to go to these sites to experience the energy. I would hope to feel something.


Hi there jeffangel,

I've been going down to Wiltshire regulary for 4 years now, had some great times walking in some amazing formations, the genuine ones just feel 'right'...........:)

[lightbeing]

Hi Tru3, great post there & it certainly rings true with me :)

I reckon Gaia is definitely growing & telling us lots of things here - just need to suss out exactly what's she's saying!! :) I feel everytime I see the circles that there's an important message being relayed, but just can't quite grasp what it is yet, it's a bit frustrating!!

Salisbury Plain is the main centre for them for sure & luckily enough only an hours drive from me, hehe :) :cool:

It's an hour or so for me as well!:)

[lookfar]

It's an hour or so for me as well!:)

Cool, well we may catch up with ya in a circle sometime then eh, LOL!! :)

[klinker]

Hi there jeffangel,

I've been going down to Wiltshire regulary for 4 years now, had some great times walking in some amazing formations, the genuine ones just feel 'right'...........:)

What areas specifically should be visited?

[hagbard_celine]

Well so far the way the man made ones are made is by having a board under your feet with two bits of string rapped either side you hold onto... and you crush the crops to the floor pushing your foot on the board.... ..this is how they made their crop circles....

but some crop circles found do not have broken crops.... they are weaved and still grow after the circle has been made.... of course some end up damaged due to people walking on them....

so if they are man made then we are yet to find out how they manage to create them without crushing the crops....

so either way we have a phenomena... it has not been worked out yet how these kind are made, so people can assume they are man made but they don't know how men are doing it, they are ignored and people just talk about the man made ones that are normally quite easy to spot as you can see the board marks... these ones are also normaly much smaller than the others allthough when taking a birds eye view pic its easy to see them as the same size.

I think the guy who is really good at making them (damn I wish I could remember his name) actually get permission from the farmers and has more time and space to make them.... he not only thinks some are not man made but thinks he has communicated with them through his circles...

There are also examples (I'll try to find pics) of circles which contain structures with no tramline access. Tramlines are the tractor wheelmarks (sorry if you already know that) that allow access to the crop without trampling on it. Without the tramlines it would be impossible to walk over the field without leaving a trail of damaged crops; they are planted too close together. In fact you can see in areal photoes of circles where some lazy gits have plouged through the virgin crop to get to a circle when they've found themselves on the wrong line. So if you see a structure indented into the crop between tramlines with none of it touching the tramline then how could it have been made by human hands? Anyone who made it would have had to walk over to it and would have left a visible trail.

[phoenix1]

Looks like a wormhole ??
Have a look at these if ya like the circles...erm gores a bit past Pat Delgado (circular evidence) to say the least. Yeah...Diferent totally..well worth a looksee, and also no downer:)



I think these are the two doccos that explain and demontrate the circles are maybe plans for a space craft, Ive seen them (if thes are those) and they are very good indeed....makes ya see the circles in a different light

VID 1


The Crop Circle Ship - Blueprints in the Crop Circles
Jeremy Stride - 20 min - 09-Nov-2006
See how crop circles are showing us how to construct incredible new kinds of technology.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5754670943097613356

VID 2



The Crop Circle Ship - Blueprints in the Crop Circles Part 2
Jeremy Stride - 24 min - 05-Dec-2006
See how crop circles are showing us how to construct incredible new kinds of technology. Part 2 looks at the basic structure of the Watersphere.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-433288732754891412

Yeh I think these 2 above explain the ship in detail ...very good...never seen an angle on the Circles quite like this ( maybe new age dissinfo ..but it got attention )

GOOGLE VIDEO GENERAL SEARCH

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Crop+Circles&num=10&so=0&start=10

Phoenix:)

[thirdwave]

There are also examples (I'll try to find pics) of circles which contain structures with no tramline access. Tramlines are the tractor wheelmarks (sorry if you already know that) that allow access to the crop without trampling on it. Without the tramlines it would be impossible to walk over the field without leaving a trail of damaged crops; they are planted too close together. In fact you can see in areal photoes of circles where some lazy gits have plouged through the virgin crop to get to a circle when they've found themselves on the wrong line. So if you see a structure indented into the crop between tramlines with none of it touching the tramline then how could it have been made by human hands? Anyone who made it would have had to walk over to it and would have left a visible trail.

i have not see these formations but it sounds right... and the bottom line is , there is no smoke without fire....

there has also been trees that have been effected the same way as the crops... like they have been melted then bent... just as if the creators have miss fired or had a test shot or what ever it is....

[limelady]

I absolutely LOVE crop-circles, and check into the CCC website twice weekly for updates during the season.

But wouldn't it be disappointing if crop-circles turned out to be the work of a certain group of "black-ops" boys having a bit of annual hi-tech fun at our expense? I got the horrors one day when it hit me that it could be possible with the right frequency technology, or some sort of optimised hi-tech lazer equipment to create a computer generated pattern from maybe something space-based. If this were the case, this might also explain why people 'feel' energies inside the circles, and why the crops are not broken, and why certain energy recording devices react to the energy inside the formation.

I had visions of a group of young smart-arse tech operators having an annual competition with 'bets on' amongst themselves to see who can come up with the most controverial formation of the season to keep the sheeple amused and preoccupied.

I hope its only my vivid imagination at work here.......but anythings possible when you consider insiders have come out and told us mainstream scientific understanding is decades behind what some of these secret black-projects are playing round with. :(

[thirdwave]

I absolutely LOVE crop-circles, and check into the CCC website twice weekly for updates during the season.

But wouldn't it be disappointing if crop-circles turned out to be the work of a certain group of "black-ops" boys having a bit of annual hi-tech fun at our expense? I got the horrors one day when it hit me that it could be possible with the right frequency technology, or some sort of optimised hi-tech lazer equipment to create a computer generated pattern from maybe something space-based. If this were the case, this might also explain why people 'feel' energies inside the circles, and why the crops are not broken, and why certain energy recording devices react to the energy inside the formation.

I had visions of a group of young smart-arse tech operators having an annual competition with 'bets on' amongst themselves to see who can come up with the most controverial formation of the season to keep the sheeple amused and preoccupied.

I hope its only my vivid imagination at work here.......but anythings possible when you consider insiders have come out and told us mainstream scientific understanding is decades behind what some of these secret black-projects are playing round with. :(


I have thought about this, but I don't think the government like us seeing anything like this or opening our minds.... I don't buy the whole "government are making up the ETE and UFO scenario for their agenda" ... although I think they have no problem people thinking that...

also there are often black copters found flying around and don't seem very friendly.... the military are not really supportive of the publics interests there.... one guy we met there said the best thing to do is to start taking pictures of the copter when it comes and they go away....

but it would not shock me at all if they did have technology to make the circles...

[limelady]

I have thought about this, but I don't think the government like us seeing anything like this or opening our minds

Yeah but UFO secrecy/the cover-up, and all these tightly controlled, secretive black-budget 'need-to-know-only' projects, have nothing to do with the official elected representative government (most govt. officials are just as much in the dark as we are) ....its the 'secret NWO government' in association with the military/industrial complex who have control of these projects (outside of official jurisdiction and over-sight)....and who would know what their agenda is to confuse the masses at any given moment. These elite groups (lead by the blood-liners) have been playing mind games with humanity for eons.

So anything is possible. :cool:

[thirdwave]

Yeah but UFO secrecy/the cover-up, and all these tightly controlled, secretive black-budget 'need-to-know-only' projects, have nothing to do with the official elected representative government (most govt. officials are just as much in the dark as we are) ....its the 'secret NWO government' in association with the military/industrial complex who have control of these projects (outside of official jurisdiction and over-sight)....and who would know what their agenda is to confuse the masses at any given moment. These elite groups (lead by the blood-liners) have been playing mind games with humanity for eons.

So anything is possible. :cool:

possible yeah..... although i tend to think if they are doing anything to lead people on a UFO or ETE path.... it would be because certain scenarios with them are already on the way and they would like to manipulate the situation, as they always look to do....

for me its logical ETEs and UFOs are around... its more ilogical that there is such a blank space in that department... and with so much secrecy around it... or lack of commitment to explour it it leaves to many holes ....

my personal feeling is the elite are not totally sure about them them self s.... they know some are linked to there past.... but there is probably such a vast amount they don't know, they are spending most of the time learning more and more them self s and trying to make sure no one learns any more than they do.

but like you say... who knows...

[heretic]

Looks like a wormhole ??
Have a look at these if ya like the circles...erm gores a bit past Pat Delgado (circular evidence) to say the least. Yeah...Diferent totally..well worth a looksee, and also no downer:)



I think these are the two doccos that explain and demontrate the circles are maybe plans for a space craft, Ive seen them (if thes are those) and they are very good indeed....makes ya see the circles in a different light

VID 1


The Crop Circle Ship - Blueprints in the Crop Circles
Jeremy Stride - 20 min - 09-Nov-2006
See how crop circles are showing us how to construct incredible new kinds of technology.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5754670943097613356

VID 2



The Crop Circle Ship - Blueprints in the Crop Circles Part 2
Jeremy Stride - 24 min - 05-Dec-2006
See how crop circles are showing us how to construct incredible new kinds of technology. Part 2 looks at the basic structure of the Watersphere.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-433288732754891412

Yeh I think these 2 above explain the ship in detail ...very good...never seen an angle on the Circles quite like this ( maybe new age dissinfo ..but it got attention )

GOOGLE VIDEO GENERAL SEARCH

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Crop+Circles&num=10&so=0&start=10

Phoenix:)

1. That first video is very hard to watch due to having an awful computer generated voice over.

2. Surely if these beings have this advanced technology then, why don't they just take over the TV airwaves for a couple of weeks and show us? And the radio too?

3. Why don't they do a reverse crop circle in Africa, where they send messages using huge formations of cleverly shaped wheat?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[hagbard_celine]

I absolutely LOVE crop-circles, and check into the CCC website twice weekly for updates during the season.

But wouldn't it be disappointing if crop-circles turned out to be the work of a certain group of "black-ops" boys having a bit of annual hi-tech fun at our expense? I got the horrors one day when it hit me that it could be possible with the right frequency technology, or some sort of optimised hi-tech lazer equipment to create a computer generated pattern from maybe something space-based. If this were the case, this might also explain why people 'feel' energies inside the circles, and why the crops are not broken, and why certain energy recording devices react to the energy inside the formation.

I had visions of a group of young smart-arse tech operators having an annual competition with 'bets on' amongst themselves to see who can come up with the most controverial formation of the season to keep the sheeple amused and preoccupied.

I hope its only my vivid imagination at work here.......but anythings possible when you consider insiders have come out and told us mainstream scientific understanding is decades behind what some of these secret black-projects are playing round with. :(

This is Brian Desborough's view and he even warns people against "nightwatching" because of the danger of govt-controlled radiation projectors.

I'd say this is unlikely, seeing as so many people have had deeply pleasant and transendental experiences in crop circles. There's a definite sense of a benevalent consciousness involved in them. Crop circles are also a lot older than we think. They got into the news in the late 70's, but they've been seen way before that. There's reports of crop circles appearing in England as long ago as the 16th century and the earliest crop circle photo was taken by an RAF pilot in 1934.

[thirdwave]

1. That first video is very hard to watch due to having an awful computer generated voice over.

2. Surely if these beings have this advanced technology then, why don't they just take over the TV airwaves for a couple of weeks and show us? And the radio too?

3. Why don't they do a reverse crop circle in Africa, where they send messages using huge formations of cleverly shaped wheat?

:confused: :confused: :confused:


totally, there is no doubt that if they wanted to they could do much more than just the odd bit of art on on some crops....

but that is assuming that they are trying to get our un divided attention..... maybe this is not the case.... maybe they are just throwing pebbles to get our attention....

its common sense that there has to be higher life than us out there.... think how long the universe has been going for ... and apparently it has taken us a few thousand years to get to where we are where we can send stuff out into space and even walk on the moon and take pictures of Mars.... so what else is out there?, the universe has had billions of years, law of averages....commons sense, points to the fact there has to be life out there that is way beyond us.... not just technology wise but just pure evolution ....

Its clear that they do not want to come down in all their glory, it obviously has negative side effects.... look at people like the mayans...there god "kukahkan" did not exaclly do them any good, they were clearly not ready for such a visit... and it just sent things crazy.... they could not deal with it.

for a start most people who don't believe in ETEs or UFOs don't believe in them because they don't want to.... they don't want to because its to much for them to take in...... many people cant even have a spiritual conversation due to them just not feeling comfortable with it..... on top of that if you look down on this earth you have people fighting all over the place because of a difference in race and religion..... so what's an Alien going to think?.. not to mention a govenment that is on a mission for power over the masses, what will they do...sit back and say ok ...over to you guys... no way....

Remember it would only be a race that is totally intrigued by us and feel they can learn something or gain something from us who would find it irresistible to come down and say hello or go to lengths to get out attention....

but these beings are obviously way more evolved than us and can read us like we can read an army of ants... they have no need to come down, its purely just that they can see our wrong doings and are eager to try and inspire us to move in another direction..... and crop circles do play a part in that... as well as people like David Icke ... and others.....

all these little efforts made by forces outside our "reality" have done just enough to inspire humans for change.... and maybe when we have begun to change and are on the right path then they will have no problems coming down and will then feel there are friends to be made.....


3. Why don't they do a reverse crop circle in Africa, where they send messages using huge formations of cleverly shaped wheat?

well this can be said for all over the world..... I mean, we might not always hear about a crop circle made and there are others that are reported in other parts of the world, just no where near as much..., but there does seem to be certain places where they pop up, these places are known to have water traces under the earth and also on or very close to "lay lines".... which are meant to be very high energy spots on the earth.... but who knows why.... could be to do with the climate.... could be because its close to a military base...

[thirdwave]

This is Brian Desborough's view and he even warns people against "nightwatching" because of the danger of govt-controlled radiation projectors.

I'd say this is unlikely, seeing as so many people have had deeply pleasant and transendental experiences in crop circles. There's a definite sense of a benevalent consciousness involved in them. Crop circles are also a lot older than we think. They got into the news in the late 70's, but they've been seen way before that. There's reports of crop circles appearing in England as long ago as the 16th century and the earliest crop circle photo was taken by an RAF pilot in 1934.

also how long have we been able to view a crop circle from the skys? ...before then the circles would not have been as interesting as now...

[hagbard_celine]

also how long have we been able to view a crop circle from the skys? ...before then the circles would not have been as interesting as now...

Good point. Like the Nazca Lines, it was only in the 20th Century after the invention of the aeroplane that we truly understood how magnificant they are.

[lottie]

i forgot to say that my post about the crop circle in the carpet thing ....
the chap who had this experience was very enlightened to all this stuff and had his own theories as to why all this hapened etc (which is inline with the stuff on this forum) and i remember he told me to go investigate the history of the house because it has a very dark history and also relates to something to do with the suffragette movement, he also mentioned that the house was used as some type of surgery in the 17/1800's and you can imagine what went on in them days, butchery!! he also mentioned that the lay lines run directly through the house and they had some significance too! his 'haunting' experiences and dealings with this poltergeist type energy in the house he explained as energy and had a very good view on what it was etc, (im struggling as it was a yr ago we spoke last and i forget the details) so im guessing that lay-lines have a huge influence here, its all adding up after all this time, when we last spoke i was in my infancy of my 'awakening'! :rolleyes: