What is Nick Pope’s agenda?

[who elsie]

Nick Pope has been in the media again recently about the current wave of UFO sightings. Now, no longer under the shackles of MoD employment, he appears, on the surface, to be the voice of the people in terms of demanding that the sightings at Shropshire and Wales be officially investigated etc, but as far as I can see he is still very much part of the establishment.

His comments, regarding the sightings were all to do with the defense of British airspace etc. He still steadfastly refuses to enter into (meaningful) debates on cover-ups and conspiracies, yet - who did I see at David Icke’s talk at Brixton in May - yes, Nicky-boy himself! Was he there as a fan of David Icke, just out of curiosity or was there another agenda? He has certainly never given any hint of being interested in the work of Icke before.

I used to think he was just a harmless, if slightly naive UFO hobbiest, who just happened to have an experience of manning a UFO desk at the MoD, but I’m not so sure anymore. Does anyone else have any thought on Mr Pope?

[romas]

He is still serving da queen... alot of sweet rubbish talking nothing more.

[mrguitarbear]

Nick Pope has been in the media again recently about the current wave of UFO sightings. Now, no longer under the shackles of MoD employment, he appears, on the surface, to be the voice of the people in terms of demanding that the sightings at Shropshire and Wales be officially investigated etc, but as far as I can see he is still very much part of the establishment.

His comments, regarding the sightings were all to do with the defense of British airspace etc. He still steadfastly refuses to enter into (meaningful) debates on cover-ups and conspiracies, yet - who did I see at David Icke’s talk at Brixton in May - yes, Nicky-boy himself! Was he there as a fan of David Icke, just out of curiosity or was there another agenda? He has certainly never given any hint of being interested in the work of Icke before.

I used to think he was just a harmless, if slightly naive UFO hobbiest, who just happened to have an experience of manning a UFO desk at the MoD, but I’m not so sure anymore. Does anyone else have any thought on Mr Pope?

I think he is genuinely interested in UFOs and he wants to find out more about them. I suspect he was interested in what DI had to say at the talk , like the other people there.

[duckingdafta]

chocolate teapot!
dis-info agent who wants to be on the ball for when he can say 'I told you so', .. but the fact is, he has NEVER told anything.

[freethinker]

I think Nick has been released with some clear things he can and can't say

he is a form of disclosure and is the closest we have to some truth

he is quite analytical and his sensible aproach helps to identify genuine sightings


personally i don't think he is as close to the real picture as he thinks he is - but i don't think he is a trouble maker

there is more he is not allowed to tell us about

does he have a web site and a forum ?

[who elsie]

I think Nick has been released with some clear things he can and can't say

he is a form of disclosure and is the closest we have to some truth

he is quite analytical and his sensible aproach helps to identify genuine sightings


personally i don't think he is as close to the real picture as he thinks he is - but i don't think he is a trouble maker

there is more he is not allowed to tell us about

does he have a web site and a forum ?

His website is: www.nickpope.net It's not particularly interesting in my view, but I was reading his Q&A page and one part reads:

"Some people believe you haven't really left the MoD at all, and that your role is to spread disinformation about UFOs. How do you respond?

How can I respond? You can't prove a negative. The rumour isn't true, but if people believe this sort of thing they won't believe my denial, or the MoD's confirmation of my departure. I can't win."

Sorry Nick, you can win. By telling the truth! But if you just keep peddling weak, officially acceptable statements about UFOs and the like, condemning conspiracy 'theorists' as paranoid nutters, don't discuss the broader picture and keep pandering to the mainstream media, then what else can people think?

Seeing him at Icke's talk in Brixton confirmed to me that he is prepared to look at the broader picture and does not, necesserily see all conspiracy researchers as nutters, so why don't we see this view expressed publicly? Yes, clearly he is still bound by the official secrets act, but that doesn't stop him expressing his own views on subjects that have nothing to do with the MoD. Come on Nick. Wakey wakey!

[phaid]

I remember him being on James Whale's 911 panel discussion show sometime last year where he was the only staunch defender of the 'official story' of 911, quoting all the usual NIST bullshit back at a panel of pretty clued up people. He came across as a bit pathetic when the others demolished every single point he brought up.

If I didn't think that he still worked for the Government I might have been inclined to feel sorry for him, but as he freely admits he is still bound by some ridiculous oaths of allegiance probably for the rest of his life, I say fuck him - once a government man, always a government stooge.

As for his books about UFOs, most likely full of 'limited hangouts', giving you a little bit of truth mixed in with a load of bullshit.

Interesting to hear that he was spotted at Brixton though, probably keeping an eye on the oppostion for his lizard overlords, LOL

[duckingdafta]

"Official Secrets Act" << sort of explains all you'll get out of the man until he gets some balls and finds a way of getting the info out with him being noted for it after disclosure, which he won't do as he as books to write/sign and crap to sell.

[who elsie]

I remember him being on James Whale's 911 panel discussion show sometime last year where he was the only staunch defender of the 'official story' of 911, quoting all the usual NIST bullshit back at a panel of pretty clued up people. He came across as a bit pathetic when the others demolished every single point he brought up.

If I didn't think that he still worked for the Government I might have been inclined to feel sorry for him, but as he freely admits he is still bound by some ridiculous oaths of allegiance probably for the rest of his life, I say fuck him - once a government man, always a government stooge.

As for his books about UFOs, most likely full of 'limited hangouts', giving you a little bit of truth mixed in with a load of bullshit.

Interesting to hear that he was spotted at Brixton though, probably keeping an eye on the oppostion for his lizard overlords, LOL

I hadn't heard his views on 911 before, but what you say comes as no surprise. Can't quite see why he would be on a panel discussing 911, as this has nothing to do with UFOs or the MoD, but it just goes to prove that his overall agenda is to defend the official line, rather than to be a truth seeker. I've seen him on a number of programmes with that slimy skeptic Chris French and the 2 of them seem to get on very well, whilst maintaining the illusion that they are on opposing sides. I wonder if there's a freemasonry connection or something.

[hagbard_celine]

I met Nick Pope at the weekend. He's a nice guy and in some ways he's very innovative. In the MoD most people (officially) won't even consider UFO's as anything other than a joke. Nick's raised some eybrows by saying that they're real. He thinks that they're a major national security and air transport safety threat.

He's not a knowing disinformer, in my view. But no doubt others are using him to give out disinfo.

[hagbard_celine]

, yet - who did I see at David Icke’s talk at Brixton in May - yes, Nicky-boy himself! Was he there as a fan of David Icke, just out of curiosity or was there another agenda? He has certainly never given any hint of being interested in the work of Icke before.


Was he there!?:eek: Blimey! He never mentioned that when I saw him. If I'd known I'd have asked him.

He is very much opposed to 9/11 conspiracies and when we were in the pub after the conference he had a debate with Ian Crane about it.

[who elsie]

I met Nick Pope at the weekend. He's a nice guy and in some ways he's very innovative. In the MoD most people (officially) won't even consider UFO's as anything other than a joke. Nick's raised some eybrows by saying that they're real. He thinks that they're a major national security and air transport safety threat.

He's not a knowing disinformer, in my view. But no doubt others are using him to give out disinfo.

I'm sure he does come across as a nice guy, but probably Tony Blair would too, if you met him in the pub! It's not really about personalities, but issues. Yes, I agree, to begin with, he ruffled a few feathers at the MoD, by talking publicly about UFOs and that was good, but there's been no movement forward since then and I think the MOD and other official sources are quite happy to let him present his views, because, ultimately they only scratch the surface of what's really going on and it probably helps in terms of the gradual acclimatising of the populous to accept the idea of ETs, as seems to be the agenda at the moment for whatever ends (false flag invasion?). And yes, I'm sure he is being used by others for disinfo. How much he is actually aware of, I'm not sure, but anyone that has heard much of the real background to 911 and still defends the official version to the hilt, is either completely stupid, completely brainwashed/ mind-controlled or part of the agenda.

[who elsie]

Was he there!?:eek: Blimey! He never mentioned that when I saw him. If I'd known I'd have asked him.

He is very much opposed to 9/11 conspiracies and when we were in the pub after the conference he had a debate with Ian Crane about it.

Sounds like quite an interesting little pub! I'd liked to have been there. I would certainly have asked him about Brixton. I don't know for certain that he was actually in the audience, but I saw him outside the venue about an hour before kick off. I was walking next to him as we approached the venue. I was hoping he would join the queue, so I could have a chat with him, but he took one look at the queue and went into retreat. I did see the woman he was with, in one of the intervals tho, so can only assume he was there too. Perhaps he just kept a low profile (wisely).

[bill23]

ive heard him on the radio talking about ufos and i think he is very Rational and main stream. we could all do with being a bit more rational about alot of the topic on this forum imo. his agenda is probably making a living like the rest of us.

[romas]

ive heard him on the radio talking about ufos and i think he is very Rational and main stream. we could all do with being a bit more rational about alot of the topic on this forum imo. his agenda is probably making a living like the rest of us.


Well maybe you are right, we are all NWO workers in one way or another, but I just want to add that ufos and "rational" does not compute in one sentence.
They are lying their guts out, whether Nick knows anything or not I don't know.

[hagbard_celine]

I'm sure he does come across as a nice guy, but probably Tony Blair would too, if you met him in the pub! It's not really about personalities, but issues. Yes, I agree, to begin with, he ruffled a few feathers at the MoD, by talking publicly about UFOs and that was good, but there's been no movement forward since then and I think the MOD and other official sources are quite happy to let him present his views, because, ultimately they only scratch the surface of what's really going on and it probably helps in terms of the gradual acclimatising of the populous to accept the idea of ETs, as seems to be the agenda at the moment for whatever ends (false flag invasion?). And yes, I'm sure he is being used by others for disinfo. How much he is actually aware of, I'm not sure, but anyone that has heard much of the real background to 911 and still defends the official version to the hilt, is either completely stupid, completely brainwashed/ mind-controlled or part of the agenda.

I've a feeling Pope is going to become more involved with the 9/11 conspiracy debunkers in the future. He sounds very staunch on the issue. He started talking to me about it, but I didn't get invloved in a debate with him because if Ian Crane can't convince him I'm sure I'd have no chance!:eek:

It's funny you should mention the fake alien invasion scenariobecause after Ian Crane’s conference address I joked to him: “Hey, Nick. When the aliens invade in 2012 they’ll want you to go on the news and tell the viewers why the Ministry never informed them!” He grimaced thinly at me and turned away.:D

[who elsie]

And meanwhile...I'm stiiiiiiiill thinkin...


Peace & love

[freethinker]

How did you get to meet nick ? sounds like an interesting guy

i have an idea - lets kidnap him, and tourture him till he tells the truth

only kidding Nick if you are reading this !

[hagbard_celine]

How did you get to meet nick ? sounds like an interesting guy

i have an idea - lets kidnap him, and tourture him till he tells the truth

only kidding Nick if you are reading this !

I'll bring the thumbscrews!:D:p

I met him at the Now That's Weird Conference where he did a speech. I've written a review here: http://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2008/06/now-thats-weird-conference-2008.html

[deany]

I'll bring the thumbscrews!:D:p

I met him at the Now That's Weird Conference where he did a speech. I've written a review here: http://hpanwo.blogspot.com/2008/06/now-thats-weird-conference-2008.html

Hagbard are u sure that link is still active as it won't load up?

[zarah]

HC you get everywhere! :p

In my opinion, Nick Pope has left the MOD and is trying, as other people have said to make a living. He is probably genuinely interested in what David had to say which is why he attended he conference. I would seriously doubt that tptb would send someone so reconisable to report back...Although I dont remember seeing anyone I thought looked like one of them..I bet they were there

[hagbard_celine]

Hagbard are u sure that link is still active as it won't load up?


It's OK at my end.

[hagbard_celine]

HC you get everywhere! :p

In my opinion, Nick Pope has left the MOD and is trying, as other people have said to make a living. He is probably genuinely interested in what David had to say which is why he attended he conference. I would seriously doubt that tptb would send someone so reconisable to report back...Although I dont remember seeing anyone I thought looked like one of them..I bet they were there


Oh yeah! There's no way they'd send someone who could be recognized. I also doubt if Pope is deliberately spreading disinfo. It's much more likely they'd use him in an unknowing capacity. Then he could spout bullshit and be completely sincere, and they don't have to worrry about him whistlblowing or swapping benches!

[deany]

It's OK at my end.

it seems to be working my end now too. cheers will have a read