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astral_girl

02-02-2007, 03:55 PM

http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html

kerravon

05-02-2007, 11:20 PM

yup, Santa Claus is an anagram of Satan Lucas, or as Pike put it "Lucifer the light Bearer". Did anyone see the pictures of the last pope's funeral? He just happened to be buried in a red suit with white trim. No coincidence.

jlittlewolf

05-02-2007, 11:45 PM

:rolleyes: Hahahahaha. Big red rolly polly Santa is a creation of Coka-Cola, not satan. Sure there may be some roots in paganism... but it has nothing to do with satan. Why do people try to demonize a holiday that is about giving and sharing? Forget the shopping and that some recognize it as the birth of Christ. Its a day for love and families and togetherness and memories and a promise of a new year, a rebirth. Anything can be demonized really... it depends on the prespective of the observer thats all. Santa clause to some, Satan to others I suppose. I don't know though.... people who see demons and evil (and I have seen my share) in the celebrations of life and love and joy whatever form it takes on... kinda scaire me more then demons themselves. One more thing... the bible is an astrological calander, not meant to be taken literal... look what its done to the planet in its literal form :eek: .

kerravon

06-02-2007, 03:14 AM

Birth of Christ? I suppose that the winter solstice on the 25th, the pine tree that symbolized Nimrod, the gifts under the tree offered to Nimrod, the garland that symbolizes the Serpent, the lights that symbolize the Illuminati, even the balls symbolizing Baal the Sun God are all just a coincidence. Oh, and dare I even mention the pre-Christ Mithra who shares his so-called birthday and everything else about Christmas, and that's just skimming the surface. I guess i'm just imagining all that.

It's nothing to do with perspective really, and more to do with facts. Santa was a creation of Coca-Cola?? The story of Saint Nick is a little older than that.

I suggest that you read David's excellent Biggest Secret for a more detailed explanation.

astral_girl

08-02-2007, 08:57 PM

Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.
SUNday is the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion).

Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.
Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE.

The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses above.

SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN).

SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.
SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL.
There is nothing Godly about Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certainly NOT Christ or his apostles.

A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.

The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death.

The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming.

The fact that the three kings came to pay homage, and brought gifts of great wealth, was used by Satan to give, to those who perverted the teaching, the idea to continue and even increase the sales of their merchandise (a great marketing-exercise for them). So the virgin-birth was hijacked and corrupted into a time to make lots of money, using the ultimate in "high-pressure sales techniques", which was to falsely use God's Son's name, in order to embarass people, who couldn't afford to buy gifts, to go into debt or steal in order to buy their merchandise. By doing this the rich merchants ruin the lives of the poor, driving them further into debt and poverty or crime, whilst making themselves richer and richer. It is WRONG and EVIL from every angle. The original gifts were from rich kings to the "supposedly" poor - from the rich to the Son of God. There is absolutely NO Biblical precedent or teaching that supports giving gifts to human children. The merchants have turned it all backwards and made it the opposite, where the poor give money to the rich. They have done this because it and they are Satanically inspired. Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" - someone who does and says the OPPOSITE of what God says, telling and teaching others to do the opposite too, by words, persuasion and example.

Giving presents to human children, instead of them giving their "selves" as presents to God, feeds their egoes (the "self") and makes them more arrogant and selfish because people are paying homage to them, bringing them gifts. This arrogance then causes them to oppress adults (Isaiah 3:12).

Instead of which they should be paying homage to God, and being thankful for Him having sent His Son to show them The Way, using their money in God's cause (for good). Children like adults have to lose their egoes and become unselfish (by daily crucifixion - "self"-sacrifice); humble; polite and helpful, or they will continue the ruining of the world and cause themselves to be executed on the Last Day.

So, by giving gifts and celebrating a pagan festival, parents are, IN REALITY, doing harm to their own children and themselves, whilst making themselves poorer, and the rich richer and bringing about the ultimate execution of their children's souls (Beings) and their own, on the now imminent Last Day.

Children should get only what they need, when they need it and NOT get expensive useless rubbish that breaks and/or is quickly discarded. They need you to spend the time, that you spent working to buy presents, with them, teaching them love and how to behave properly, instead of feeding their egoes. Less time at work, for you, and more time with your children so that you are not strangers to each other.

Christ came to bring True Justice for everyone, to put an end to poverty and make life loving and better EVERY day not one miserable day a year.

The decking of fir trees with silver and gold and placing presents (offerings) under them is also a pagan ritual condemned by God in the Bible in Jeremiah 10:2-4. Nimrod/Osiris/Horus is often pictured with wings, holding reindeer and a fir tree.

Also, if you take the word CONIFER, which is the name given to the family of trees to which the Christmas (Fir) tree belongs, and split the word in two, you get:
CON-IFER

CON - Satan is known as the biggest con-artist ever. He invented it.
IFER - The last half of Lucifer's name.
HE'S LAUGHING AT ALL OF US RIGHT NOW!

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SANTA SATAN
by Mr. Normal
(Xmas Eve, 2000)

Is it plausible that Santa is really Satan?"

Think about it, folks! It's not just that "Santa" is an obvious anagram of Satan; that Santa wears a demonic red suit symbolic of the fires of Hell; and that his huge hat must conceal horns. The clincher is that Santa represents xmas, that time of year when christian greed and phony sincerity reach their unctuous peak. It's the season when braindead followers of the ultimate cult are whipped into frenzies that leave them figuratively drained -- broke and exhausted.

Understandably, it's also the time of the year when depression and suicides max out as the futility of achieving happiness sinks in at least subliminally. A December, 2000 Gallup poll shows that 85% of us think that xmas is too commercial, but Santa/Satan wouldn't have it any other way! Our most respected institutions are in on the plot too. Even the law of the land (U.S.A.) forbids a baby Jesus in the town square, but who's there instead? You
guessed it! Santa! - Satan.

Lucifer/Satan once was one of God's angels. Satan's attempted heavenly coup failed (Isa. 14:12-15), but he was given his very own place to rule and called it Hell/Earth (Rev. 12:9) Satan also got free reign to tempt as many people as he wanted (even Christ himself!) and lots of fabulous stuff to tempt them with (like eternal youth and Mercedes Benzes). However, Satan still was not satisfied. He worked hard to make xmas the most important retail event of the year. A recent survey showed that 60% of holiday spending occurs at xmas, and another 20% at Satan's recognized holiday of Halloween. Think about it, folks! Satan has locked up 80% of our holiday dollars! Who else could be the "red dragon" of Revelation 12:3, ?. More important is that asking Santa for something really is an unwitting pact with the Devil, and parents are dooming their children's souls to Hell-Fire! (Coming to your neighbourhood; soon - JAH.)

"Santa Satan's" devilish temptations have achieved what John Lennon could only try to claim for the Beatles -- greater popularity than Jesus! Indeed, "Santa Satan" truly is the reason for the season!

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Christ, the Spirit-Being that was placed in-side the body (IN-carnated not begotten as it has been misinterpreted) called Jesus, was not born 2000 years ago or even 2,000 millennia ago. He is, as he said, older than this planet and zillions of years old, being the first created by God (His oldest Son - Prince Michael - Dan. 10:21). It was only the human animal organic computer (body), that was used by the Son of God, that was born 2000 years ago. You are not supposed to worship or make graven images of a human organic computer, similar to the one that you are locked inside of, or even the spirit (Christ) that was within the body called Jesus, you are supposed to worship his Perfect Father the Supreme-Being, as Christ himself told you to do. God is not a human, He is a "Being of Light" (soul). Therefore His Son (Christ) is not a human either but was the soul (Being) that was inside the human body from the virgin-birth. God is Spirit (energy/Light) and you must worship Him in spirit (with your spirit - soul) in TRUTH and love Him, as He loves you. JAH.

astral_girl

08-02-2007, 09:02 PM

http://www.annomundi.com/bible/christmas.htm

kerravon

08-02-2007, 09:58 PM

you tell him astral!

mariag

21-07-2007, 09:23 AM

ngawaka19

21-07-2007, 10:43 AM

i am all i am

21-07-2007, 01:53 PM

Father Christms

In considering the character of Santa Claus, and given that he is is so slosely associated with elves and antlered reindeer, tthe question is often posed as to whether there is a Witchcraft connection here. Also, is the name Santa perhaps a play on Satan (being a staightforward anagram), or does Santa Claus really emanate, by phonetic corruption, from Saint Nicholas as we are led to believe ?

As we have seen, the concept of Father Christmas (with customary holly-sprig in his cap) is a direct representation of the gift bearing Yuletide Holly King, somtimes called Father Winter or Grandfather Frost. His one-time pagan image was brought into line with the Christian festival in the 17th century, whereas Santa Claus first appeared by that name in America as late as the middle 1800s. And then, of course, there is the Kriss Kringle portrayal. Are they all the same character and, if so, how can an historical Christian bishop possibly equate with the jolly, pipe-smoking Yuletide Elf ?

Back in the very earliest days of the Roman Church in AD325, one of the bishops at Emperor Constantine's Council of Nicea was a certain Nicholas of Myra from Asia Minor (modern Turkey), who claimed to have a personal dialogue with Jesus and an angel. At this Church conference the bishops were debating the nature of the Holy Trinity - the Father, Son and Holy Ghost - and of how Jesus was not simply the Son of God, but was also God incarnate. There were, nontheless, some bishops of the pre-Roman school who opposed this new Imperial dogma and averred that Jesus was the Son as created in the flesh by God - but he was not himself God. The leading spokesman for this opposition faction was an aged Libyan priest of Alexandria named Arius, but when Arius rose to address te Council in this regard, Nicholas of Myra punched him in the face - an event which paved the way for the emergent Nicene Trinity Creed.

Other than that, very little is recorded about Bishop Nicholas (Ad 271-343) until a fictitious biography was written by the Greek missionary Methodius in the 9th century. Then, as a direct outcome of this, schoolboys, pawnbrokers, sailors, prostitutes, marechants and apothecaries all claimed the violent bishop as their patron saint ! Methodius reported in his text that Nicholas had given a bag of gold to each of the three girls to save them from prostitution - whence, apparently, the three golden balls used as a sign of pawnbrokers, although the connection is difficult to comprehend. He was also said to have the power to calm the seas, while the story which established his traditional link with children claimed that Nicholas successfully restored to life three boys who had been cut into pieces and preserved in brine by their innkeeping parents !

Following these reports, Nicholas became the elected patron saint of Greece, Apulia, Sicily, Lorraine and Russia - becoming especially popular with the Eastern Orthodox Church. Then, based upon the 'bags of gold' story, a new trdition grew in and around The Netherlands to the effect that St. Nicholas would return each year to bring gifts for well-behaved children on the eve of hid 6 December feast day - a tradition which has long been acted out in places such as Denmark, Holland and Belgium.

The origin of the modern Santa Claus story is often attributed to 17th-century Dutch settlers in America (in New York to be precise, which was called New Amsterdam until the 1700s). They are said to have taken the St. Nicholas tradition across the ocean with them, but tis is completely unrue. The Dutch colonial settlers were, in fact, members of the Protestant Dutch Reform Church, who had no empathy whatever with Catholic saints. Santa actually emerged from a character introduced to Pennysylvania by the German settlers - a character called Pelznichol (meaning Furry Nicholas) and someimes referred to as Old Nick. He was reckoned to be a mischievious hobgoblin (akin to Hodekin and Robin Goodfellow) and by 1827 he was firmly established in the Philadelphia Yuletide festivals.

Reminiscent of Enkidu in the old Mesopotamian legend of Gilgamesh, Pelznichol was a somewhat wild, hairy individual who was noted for playing tricks on people once a year - a tradition which was transformed into gift giving.The Dutch of Pennysylvannia, along with various other settled families, became attached to the custom of Pelznichol (alternatively Belsnickle), but they gave his gifts a Christian flavour by relating them specifically to children and calling them Krist-kindle ('Christ-kin'). By the 1840s this definition was adapted for Pelznichol himself, who became known in some communities as Kridd Kringle. Alternatively, from around 1823, it was reckoned that Kriss Kringle actually was the Christ child who, with no real explanation, appeared as an old bearded twin of Santa Claus. To differentiate between the two, it was said that, while Santa came down the chimney, his Christian twin came in through the keyhole.

To discover the true identity of Santa Claus, we shall return again to Pelznichol. Meanwhile, though, we should take a look at some other events which established the character in the guise that we know him. In doing this, we can go back to early 17th-century England, where we discover the first use of the Father Christmas name in connection with the Holly King tradition. This occured in the year 1610 when Father Christmas, in a tall hat bedecked with holly, made his first ever appearance by that name in the Christmas Masque productions of William Shakespeare's colleague, the playwright Ben Johnson. Making his stage entry at the same time with a group of children was Cupid - a name eventually used for one of Santa'ss reindeer.

In 1822 the next major step came when the American writer Clement Clarke Moore penned a Christmas poem for his own children. It drew upon various traditions, especially that of the Russian Grandfather Frost, who had a sleigh and a reindeer (unlike St. Nicholas who always rode a white horse). It relatyed also to the fur-clad German Pelznichol, whose signature was said to be Thunder (Donner) and Lightning (Blitzen), which provided two more reindeer names for Moore's poem - along with Cupid, Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, and Comet. (Rudolph did not appear until as recently as 1939 in a story by Robert L. May) In spite of the anomalies, Moore's poem was entitled A Visit From Saint Nicholas - soon to become widely known in publication as The Night Before Christmas, which begins:

'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.

Not only were the now famous reindeer introduced in this poem, but it established the first known link with stockings and chimneys, while giving a description of the newly developing Yuletise Elf character:

He was dressed all in fur, from his head to his foot,
And his clothes were all tarnished with ashes and soot;
A bundle of toys he had flung on his back,
And he lloked like a peddler just opening his pack.

His eyes - how they twinkled ! His dimples so merry !

His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry.
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
And the beard of his chin was as white as the snow.

The stump of a pipe he held tigh in his teeth,
And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath.
He had a broad face and a little round belly,
That shook when he laughed like a bowlful of jelly.

He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
And I laughed when I saw him, in spite of myself.

Thus, the modern Santa was beginning to evolve, although one would hardly recognise him from the strange little fellow depicted in the 1848 edition of Moore's poem. In 1869 a colour edition was released, with pictures by an unknown artist, which brought the character a little closer to today's image. Oddly, though, this chubby elf with the red bobble-hat and pipe was still called St. Nicholas in the poem, although being as far removed from the historical bishop as one could possibly stray. But nowhere yet was this character called Santa Claus.

The magazine Harpers Weekly had, by that time, commissioned the political cartoonist Thomas Nast to produce a series of drawings of the popular elf for the annual covers of their Christmas editions, and these developed the character still further, making him a little larger and less elfin. Meanwhile, the seperate Father Christmas (looking more like a druid with holly in his hair) was pursuing his own rather more wiccan career in England, appearing in 1888 in Thomas K. Hervey's The Book of Christmas not with reindeer, but riding on the back of a goat and carrying a wassail bowl.

To complete the picture of Santa in America, along came Haddon Sundblom who (from 1931 to 1964) created a new representation each Christmas for the Coca-cola advertisements which appeared worldwide in The Post and National Geographic magazines. And so the familiar modern Santa portrayal finally emerged in true Disney style - but why was he suddenly called Santa Claus ? And why were the folk in Denmark now calling their owe-time Sint Nicolaas by the new name of Sinterklaas ? Had some other tradition perhaps become interpolated during the early decades of the 20th-century ? It certainly had.In fact two other traditions had become merged with that of the American Yuletide Elf - the first being England's own druidic Holly King, Father Christmas. More importantly, though, was the re-cementing of the original Pelznichol culture - by then widely recognised as that of Kriss Kringle - for it was actually Pelznichol, the wild hobgoblin (a counterpart of Hodekin and Robin Goodfellow, or Puck) who carried the alternative name which became Santa Claus.

To understand how this transpired, we need to go back in history again to Europe, where Pelznichol was so called because he was a nick (a sprite). Consequently, one of hi famailiar names was Old Nick. So, from the moment that Clement Clarke Moore's Christmas character appeared, 'dressed all in fur, from his head to his foot', the beginning of a merger was apparent between his St. Nicholas and the other Furry Nicholas.

Old Nick, meanwhile, had been the very figure most associated with Pope Gregory I's description of the devil, taking over totally from the earlier fallen angel depictions in medieval times, so that the devil was (and still is) often referred to as Old Nick. Where did this devil live ? Apparently, he lived in the far North according to the churchmen who quoted the Old Testament book of Jeremiah (1:14): 'Then the Lord said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land'. So the legendary Old Nick (Pelznichol) supposedly came from the North Pole, just as Santa does today - having no geographical relevance whatever to the historical St. Nicholas.

The rest of the story follows from this very root, and from the appearance of Pope Gregory's Satan (Old Nick) character in European Passion plays from the 12th century. It is, however, from the writings of Jacob Grimm (of the Brothers Grimm fairy tale fame) that the puzzle is finally pieced together. In his comprehensive research work entitled Teutonic Mythology Grimm explains that, in the course of the Chriatian plays of the Middle Ages, it was common for a famous saintly bishop (generally St. Nicholas) to develop a split personality within the plot. While the traditionally benevolent saint would remain in character, his alter ego would degenerate into an additionally scripted figure of opposition akin to Pelznichol - a wild satanic creature called Claus.

And so it was that, when the Holly King, St. Nicholas, Father Christmas, Kriss Kringle and Pelzb=nichol finally merged into the one all-embracing character, it was the Old Nick alter ego from the Christmas plays who finally reigned supreme. It was he who determined the Yuletide Elf's name for all time - for he was the 'Satan Claus', or as he has become better known (by the way of a strategic anagrammatical switch from the original satanic defintion to a more acceptable saintly style), Santa Claus.

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Beyong The Portal of the Twilight World
(Pages 177-183)
- Laurence Gardiner

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lottie

21-07-2007, 01:58 PM

Hahahahaha. Big red rolly polly Santa is a creation of Coka-Cola, not satan. Sure there may be some roots in paganism... but it has nothing to do with satan. Why do people try to demonize a holiday that is about giving and sharing? Forget the shopping and that some recognize it as the birth of Christ. Its a day for love and families and togetherness and memories and a promise of a new year, a rebirth. Anything can be demonized really... it depends on the prespective of the observer thats all. Santa clause to some, Satan to others I suppose. I don't know though.... people who see demons and evil (and I have seen my share) in the celebrations of life and love and joy whatever form it takes on... kinda scaire me more then demons themselves. One more thing... the bible is an astrological calander, not meant to be taken literal... look what its done to the planet in its literal form .

check this out about Christmas .....

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2006/12/so-is-this-christmas.html