Elections in France

[pierre_jean]

Hello all,
I think this is my first post on david icke.com
First, I apologize for my english, I think you will find strange words in my language but I will use a translator to help me :p

You know that sunday 21 we vote for our president.
You can easily imagine the poor level of our politicians discusses. And the high level of misinformation and demagogy.

Maybe you know M. Sarkozy, leader of UMP, resulting from the party created by M. Chirac. For example, in his last speech, he refers to the innate character of a rapist or a paedophile. For him, the genetics are responsible for the ill, depression and all bad behaviour. Some kind of eugenic speech. And he represents the biggest party in France !!!

Well we will see sunday the results of this poor democracy, which have only the name.

Just take a look at the symbols and eye in the pyramid in the french "Déclaration des droits de l'Homme"
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/9531/ddh1789bigov7.th.jpg (http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddh1789bigov7.jpg)
No comment... :eek:

I've made a little video on a chemical brothers music with politicians figures :
http://www.dailymotion.com/GMFProd/video/2504989

Respect to all seekers of truth !!!!

Ps : Don't you think that the Pope Benoit XVI looks like the emperor in Star Wars ?

[charles d ward]

Actually i saw a picture of mr Sarkozy in Dagens Nyheter (swedish newspaper) about 4months ago holding his hand in a very, very special way. It reminded me of people favouring "heavy metal" before "drum and bass" haha

Behind Sarkozy there was a banner with 2 textlines surrounding a planet (earth I presume) alltogheter making an "all seeing eye". I´ve looked all over the internet for that specific picture but havent found it,

This is my first post by the way and WHAT A POST IT IS! ;)

Charles D Ward!

My introduction will come when I´m sober...

CHEERS!

*burp*

[pierre_jean]

CHEERS!

*burp*

A ta santé !

Well first turn has been made, N. Sarkozy 30 % and Ms Royal 25 %.
M. Sarkozy, with an ultra nationalist speech have convinced huge part of the sheep population and is in very good position to become the next king.... ehh... president of French republic.

Security, immigration, work, money, glorification of French history, especially "le siècle des lumières" (lumière = illuminati, the real ones who made french revolution) are the values most defended during the pre-election by M. Sarkozy.

A suivre...

[edelweiss pirate]

I don't hold much hopes of a free and fair election...

I remember the last one, 2002, Lionel Jospin got cheated and they put the National Front in second place..

At the time he even said:

"Quelque chose sent mauvais..." "something stinks!"

Of course it does, Jospin wasn't part of the agenda so he wasn't chosen...

Just like the Sex Pistols God Save the Queen, should have been number 1 during Jubilee week, instead they put Rod 'House of' Stewart there instead..

Also I think Royal's brother was a secret agent involved in the bombing of Greenpeace Rainbow Warrior....

Wankers lot of them... But Sarkozy, he's worse.... A real heartless demon..

[pierre_jean]

M. Sarkozy is called "The american" in France. The link between US gov and Sarkozy is clear. He even meet and appear to be a friend of Tom Cruise the scientolog. One of his book was prefaced by Gianfranco Fini, an italian neo facist "National Alliance".
I can't understand how people are sleeping at this point !!!

[pierre_jean]

Surprise surprise ! M. Sarkozy is the new President :(

[tinmenace]

Yeah, it's no surprise really. He's the pig that will push the NWO agenda forward. He's quite the fascist bastard, isn't he?

[lumukanda]

i must admit, i though royal would make it actually, what with the recent trend of female leaders, but he does seem like a nasty piece of work.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ddh1789bigov7.jpg

Is that Nike, the Victory goddess sitting to the right? What is that? A snake draping around everything? And some kind of fasces, one on top the other, up the center of the picture. Of course the most obvious is the all-seeing-eye at the very top. What about the Order of the Dragon symbol above the top fasces spear?

Well, you know, if people don't know what they are looking at, then it all looks very innocent to them...

[lumukanda]

order of the dragon symbol? is that the ourobourus you're reffering to, the snake biting it's own tail?

[tinmenace]

Yep, that's it! Thanks, couldn't remember the name.

[lumukanda]

my girlfriend's got loads on the ourobourus, i might just lend the book she's writing on symbols and post a bit here.

[tinmenace]

Whoa! That would be so cool!

[shadow cat]

Welcome pierre_jean..great post thanks! Hmm Sarkozy, the fact that he really admires Blair would put me off him somewhat. These leaders are all chosen, so it wouldn't have mattered much who the people voted for. ' Birds of a feather flock together' :rolleyes:
Enjoyed the video you put together.....they all look a bit 'snakey' I reckon.
Cheers

[pierre_jean]

order of the dragon symbol? is that the ourobourus you're reffering to, the snake biting it's own tail?

Yes, thanks for the description.
Moreover, this snake which bites it's own tail looks like a certain ring extremely, if you see what I want to say... ;)

One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.

[pierre_jean]

Welcome pierre_jean..great post thanks! Hmm Sarkozy, the fact that he really admires Blair would put me off him somewhat. These leaders are all chosen, so it wouldn't have mattered much who the people voted for. ' Birds of a feather flock together' :rolleyes:
Enjoyed the video you put together.....they all look a bit 'snakey' I reckon.
Cheers

Thanks a lot. Sarkozy is one of the choosen I think too. He repeated continually his speech like a metronome. Repeat, repeat...
Did you notice the snake eye at the end of the video ? :D

[tinmenace]

One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.

Indeed!

[pierre_jean]

You know what ? The mass fans of Mister Sarkozy had return to celebrate its victory over the place of the Concorde... :D

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9136/concordenv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The loop is buckled (french expression : La boucle est bouclée) :D

[tinmenace]

That obelisk is one of the three obelisks known as Cleopatra's Needles. The other two are in New York City and London.

The one in Paris is close to the USA embassy and stands exactly where a guillotine once stood. Yuck!

Yes, it doesn't surprise me that they will celebrate there. It's a way for them to thank their evil gods...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cleopatrasneedleparis.jpg

[hagbard_celine]

Those people who've been rioting make me wonder. If Royal had won would they be rioting? If not then why not?

If they wouldn't then it's clear that they're as much believers in the myth of democracy as the Sarkozcy supporters.

[pierre_jean]

Those people who've been rioting make me wonder. If Royal had won would they be rioting? If not then why not?

If they wouldn't then it's clear that they're as much believers in the myth of democracy as the Sarkozcy supporters.

Yes, exactly. People who've been rioting have no political beliefs nor even revendications. They are at the same time victims and torturers. They just have no illusions about the elite and the operation of the social justice. There are districts very very hot. Racism, the communautarism became very strong. Violence remains their only means of existing. But you must know that in your respective countries. In fact, unfortunately, they validate by their acts the choice of French who is for the "return to the order".
It's very vicious as u know :(

[celtic isis]

Surprise surprise ! M. Sarkozy is the new President :(

bonsoir pierre_jean :) et bienvenue et enchanté :)

great to see a french person on here :D I'm living in france now and well, i figured sarko must be some kind of a snake cause, well it's a done deal whoever gets to be "le president" isn't it, doesn't matter which country c'est la même chose aprés/sur tout but i had no idea of the stuff you mentioned in your posts! :eek: (i'm like vandamme forgetting my french lol)

i didn't know sarko's known as "the american" here? :confused: excuse my french but PUTAIN lol :D quelle surprise de merde! haha my fiancé will be proud of me practising my french like this! I'll have to get him to post here cause then you won't have to chat in english all the while ;)

and the declaration thing...that damn all seeing eye...yet again...:mad: You're right, how can people still be sleeping, but you know what, it's cause most of them still don't have a clue about the hidden agenda and the NWO. And then the rest are too scared to face the truth, too happy to be sheep.

you're damn right about the rioting too, it instills fear in people also, like the ones who actually still believe what they see on the news, thinking oh something has to be done, what has the world come to, perfect for the ones with the power to manipulate. Order out of chaos eh.

anyway, welcome aboard, your english is fantastic, hopefully see you again for a tëte à tête (is that how you say it lol):D

à bientôt mon ami !

Forgot to say j'adore votre avatar!!! the NAZI Pope! hehe

[celtic isis]

Welcome pierre_jean..great post thanks! Hmm Sarkozy, the fact that he really admires Blair would put me off him somewhat. These leaders are all chosen, so it wouldn't have mattered much who the people voted for. ' Birds of a feather flock together' :rolleyes:
Enjoyed the video you put together.....they all look a bit 'snakey' I reckon.
Cheers

hey shadow cat :)

oh no he "admires Blair" too, OMG now that is bad :mad: exactly, as you said, it wouldn't have mattered who the people voted for, and anyway, i can't believe that people still think thay they choose the president! You get a line up of people choosen for you, and two or three get the most publicity and end up being the two in the last round of voting...it's all a done deal. I really felt sick watching all the stupid celebrating of the people last night, rejoicing over sarkozy, and that singer lol taking out Jesus's name in a song and replacing it with Nicolas...:eek: are they mad lol Here comes the NWO eh...

you just reminded me i better go look at Pierre_jean's video! :D cheer me up!

[celtic isis]

sorry to be posting so much guys :o

just to say FANTASTIC video P_J :D
love the flash of the lizard eye at the end and the wooden puppet...perfect mix, synchroniscity of the pics and track by chem bros, ah i love that vid! :D

Wow what a world we live in eh, these nazis in control of it, and then think of the celebration for sarko last night...:( that damn burlesconi too, annoys me everytime i see that pic!

has anyone ever found pics of blair doing the corna hand symbol? I wish i could find one...ah he's too sneaky, he knows not to play, unlike the rest, clinton's the same. can't catch them doing it.

i have to get that sarkozy funny face in the middle though :D

merci infiniment pierre jean! well done :)

[pierre_jean]

Merci mon ami, tes commentaires me font très très plaisir :D
Moi aussi je crois que j'ai le syndrome J.C. Van Damme :)
But you know, I use a translator most of the time :p
And for the video, the biggest part of the work was to select the pics !!! 2 or 3 days to find interesting ones !!! The video mix was a big distraction :D

Here's a "résumé" of the election by the BBC :
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sarkozy%2BUS/video/x1wxru_sarkozy-the-new-french-president
Notice that M. Bush is the first to have called Sarkozy after the election !!
Well as you know, Sarkozy in France is becoming "Sarko". More simple to remember for the people :D
To be more precise, it is sarko himself which choose this name of "The american". I will check and see whether there is the extract in video...
En vous remerciant,
PJ The french

[pierre_jean]

Here are declarations of M. Sarkozy :
"In France, some call me Sarkozy the American. I am proud of it."
(En France, certains m'appellent Sarkozy l'américain. Je suis fier de ça.)
- World Jewish Congress - 6/24/04 -

The real name of Sarko is : Nicolas Sarkozy de Nagy-Bocsa, issue from an exiled noble rich Hungarian...

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9743/remisemenorahsarkozyeq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And symbolism always...

And this is the video I prefer from him : :D
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sarkozy%2BUS/video/xtjvy_sarkozy-entarte

[tinmenace]

Israeli apologizer. That's a basic requirement to become a president of any country.

Wasn't Sarkozy's grandfather Jewish?

[pierre_jean]

Israeli apologizer. That's a basic requirement to become a president of any country.

Wasn't Sarkozy's grandfather Jewish?

You right ! BINGO ! I found this :

Nicolas Sarkozy is the son of a Hungarian immigrant, Pál Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa[1] (Hungarian: nagybócsai Sárközy Pál; some sources spell it Nagy-Bócsay Sárközy Pál; Hungarian pronunciation), and a French mother, Andrée Mallah, nicknamed Dadu. Andrée Mallah, then a law student, was the daughter of Benedict Mallah, a wealthy urologist and STD specialist with a well-established reputation in the mainly bourgeois 17th arrondissement of Paris. Benedict Mallah was originally a Sephardic Jew from Thessaloniki (Salonica), Greece.

Cheer for your deductions :D

[celtic isis]

Merci mon ami, tes commentaires me font très très plaisir :D
Moi aussi je crois que j'ai le syndrome J.C. Van Damme :)
But you know, I use a translator most of the time :p
And for the video, the biggest part of the work was to select the pics !!! 2 or 3 days to find interesting ones !!! The video mix was a big distraction :D

Here's a "résumé" of the election by the BBC :
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sarkozy%2BUS/video/x1wxru_sarkozy-the-new-french-president
Notice that M. Bush is the first to have called Sarkozy after the election !!
Well as you know, Sarkozy in France is becoming "Sarko". More simple to remember for the people :D
To be more precise, it is sarko himself which choose this name of "The american". I will check and see whether there is the extract in video...
En vous remerciant,
PJ The french

bonjour PJ The French :D hehe vandamme, i was actually on youtube for ages one day translating what vandamme was sayiing in french for some people, he's being compared to wait for it, DAVID ICKE! :D

thanks for the bbc world video link..doesn't look good does it. America has been praying for a Sarkozy victory for months...uh oh.

Yeah sarkozy has jewish blood but he is apparently Catholic, i don't know which is worse lol :D

he's the man to make 'international changes'...:eek:

what do you think of Royale then Pierre Jean? I'm lost in all this now, understanding left and right...it's really the same thing but opposite, i know in france though it's very extreme what it means to be either à gauche ou à droite...be interested to know your thoughts on this.

i have to run right now, will catch you later hopefully, à trés bientôt :D

PS: love that pie in the face for sarkozy! notre petit chou à la crème lol

[edelweiss pirate]

While there is nothing wrong with him being Jewish...

It doesn't seem very representative of a country which is overwhelmingly Catholic Christian...

I can't believe that this was a fair election.

[pierre_jean]

bonjour PJ The French :D hehe vandamme, i was actually on youtube for ages one day translating what vandamme was sayiing in french for some people, he's being compared to wait for it, DAVID ICKE! :D

Hi celtic friend !
It is true that the speech of Van Damme is really not clear. Even for French. What is not the case, I find, for D. Icke, which nevertheless manages to formulate comprehensible sentences :D

thanks for the bbc world video link..doesn't look good does it. America has been praying for a Sarkozy victory for months...uh oh.

Yep, this election was organized, handled in this objective. The French media, to start with the institutes of survey, had already announced the second Sarkozy turn and the final exit, the victory of Sarkozy...

Yeah sarkozy has jewish blood but he is apparently Catholic, i don't know which is worse lol :D
he's the man to make 'international changes'...:eek:

You will maybe find that amusing, but I have just discovered that at the time where the grand father of Sarko lived in Thessaloniki, this city belonged then to Turkey. One can thus say that it also has Islamic influences. It is one mix practical good according to interlocutors :D

what do you think of Royale then Pierre Jean? I'm lost in all this now, understanding left and right...it's really the same thing but opposite, i know in france though it's very extreme what it means to be either à gauche ou à droite...be interested to know your thoughts on this.

Royal (without "e" if not it is a "pizza royale" :D) and Sarkozy are, as you said, two reverses of the same medal. For me, cleavage right-hand / left-hand side is an illusion. I think that the French politics tends more and more towards the American politics. After the US TV Show that we have eaten for more than 30 years not stop, the political shows with stars of the pop, sport, TV... and maintaining an ideology similar (liberalism / facism), with two distinct labels (for maintaining this illusion well precisely): Republicans and democrats. That's the future for France I think...

i have to run right now, will catch you later hopefully, à trés bientôt :D

PS: love that pie in the face for sarkozy! notre petit chou à la crème lol

See Ya my friend !
I've made this little movie for the fun :
http://www.dailymotion.com/GMFProd/video/x1x9co_we-are-family/1
I took some images of animals in a zoo and I added a music "We are family" by Sister Sledge. Don't miss the monkey acrobat at the end of the video :D
It 's kind of hidden message ;)

[pierre_jean]

While there is nothing wrong with him being Jewish...
It doesn't seem very representative of a country which is overwhelmingly Catholic Christian...
I can't believe that this was a fair election.

Hi edelweiss !
You want to speak about electoral fraud?

[edelweiss pirate]

Yes..

The French I knew hated Sarkozy and saw him for what he was...

Most French are well educated and highly intelligent people.

The French are also totally suspicious of anything American, much more so now with their bloody wars...

Going on the previously dodgy election whose result even Jospin himself doubted, I think it fair to say that there was gerrymandering going on...

I simple cannot believe that the French elecorate would vote for Sarkozy..

[pierre_jean]

Yes..

The French I knew hated Sarkozy and saw him for what he was...
Most French are well educated and highly intelligent people.
The French are also totally suspicious of anything American, much more so now with their bloody wars...
Going on the previously dodgy election whose result even Jospin himself doubted, I think it fair to say that there was gerrymandering going on...
I simple cannot believe that the French elecorate would vote for Sarkozy..

I do not know if there were fraud. It appears especially that they are the old people (pensioners) who tipped the scales of the vote. Easy to handle, this electorate naturally reacted to the vagueness of fear who reigns here (and everywhere). Ignorance -> Fear -> Order (a classic :D )
Thank you for your compliment as regards the intelligence and the culture French but I do not think that it is a typically French speciality. There are also many sheep :D

PS : I don't know this word : "gerrymandering" ?

[celtic isis]

While there is nothing wrong with him being Jewish...

It doesn't seem very representative of a country which is overwhelmingly Catholic Christian...

I can't believe that this was a fair election.

you're right edelweiss pirate, it wasn't a fair election, i mean, it was really only ever royale and sarkozy, two people plucked and groomed no doubt by the NWOers lol

Just wanted to ask pierre jean, do many people know about icke in France? Or about the NWO etc etc...? You know, it's a real shame, the French would be the ones to really lead a rebellion when all this comes out, but, French people, to me anyway it seems have been robbed so much of their identiy now, their pride, i doubt they'd be bothered. I really do find that sad. There was a time when Irish were fighting the english and the french came to help us...there was a huge showdown in the city where i come from and wow, the french and the irish together -WATCH OUT :D

But now, people are so afraid of everything, and too selfish, and also have no respect here for eachother...i know it's mostly cause of all the arabians here...and well sarkozy isn't a friend of theirs and well that's a good thing :D Not that i'm racist cause i'm not, but like, they don't respect us so it makes it damn hard for us to respect them. Double standards and all...like, a french person attacks an arabian, and all hell breaks loose, but an arabian attacks a french person, he (the arabian) is only defending himself lol there is no racism when an arabian attacks a french person!

I was kept awake yet again last night by twats riding up and down the street on motorcycles at 2 am, the bin men for the poubeille come after 12 am to 1 am at night, and everytime i go to the mall it's like, people are animals, crawling all over you, they have zero respect, i'm not used to this cause in ireland it isn't liek this. and when you cross the road here, it says it's "safe" to cross and yet, the cars don't even bother to stop, they just keep coming at you even though it's your right to cross...that pisses me off more than anything else! They wouldn't even respect you enough to just stop the Fing car to let you cross and then go when it's goes green again...:mad:

Don't get me wrong, i'm not giving out about french people, just the people, french or otherwise, around me in the south! Cause french people are so courteous and polite, but yeah, it's the arabian influence here lol that causes the probs.

it's like, everything here is made to stress, when it should be the opposite cause this is the south of france! the playground!

i think humanity in general is pissing me off so much lately. :rolleyes:


back to my question, how do you see things in france PJ? Regarding waking up to the NWO agenda...???

[celtic isis]

hehe pizza royale :D :o
hehe Royal can keep her jambon et champignons lol

i thought she spelt it with an 'e' :o

sorry PJ i never saw your messages there and i just had a big tantrum :o

I'll go look at your video to cheer me up :D

hope you're not offended by what i was saying about France, it's just from my experience in the south, i guess the sunshine sends people nuts down here :confused: i don't know. and of course, it's also the fault of the unseen manipulationg that goes on behind the scenes...i realy love though how french people are into esotericisim (spelling?) and digging out the truth, though they don't do it as much now, what do you think????

also, thanks for explaining the "left and right different sides of the same medal" to me! Fantastic the way you put it, i'll never forget that now! wow liberalism/facism...i know, two distinct labels but there's a very fine line between the two. I agree, i see a big american culture too, all the shows here are american, well practically all of them..it's bizarre. There is alot of trying to erase the idividual cultures, esspecially in European countries...and esspecially since the Euro came in...Britain doesn't see the european community as a dictarship as much cause they're not fully in it, and well, we know why that is now, it doesn't take much pondering.

take care my also celtic friend :) french are celtic too :)

aslo i forget what "gerrymandering" means! It's like propaganda or something along those lines...aww i can't remember! or manipulatiing both sides....

[charles d ward]

http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/61/25/78/sarkozy.jpg

Luuuuverly! :)

[pierre_jean]

Just wanted to ask pierre jean, do many people know about icke in France? Or about the NWO etc etc...?


Celtic people we are all :D
On a purely personal basis, I regard myself initially as a citizen of humanity. The nations are factitious for me. We all are one. You spoke about incivilities in general by pointing Arabic of the finger. Attention with the too easy short cuts. Arabic is people like you and me. I know that you is not racist but recognize that to stigmatize a community is something of pervert and a way for our elites of making respect this cursed law of division "Divide and conqueer" !!!

With regard to the new world order, today there is not French Icke, unfortunately. In the Eighties, there was a man (now return with spirits) : Jimmy Guieu. Already at that time, he spoke about the CFR, the illuminatis, Bilderberg, the UFO, the vortices, mysteries and the conspiracy in general. But it was presented like funny. A little like Icke except that for that, it did not even need to say that he was a son of God :D
Here for example, a video of what it did. It is in French obviously, then good luck!
About Vortex :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKrIJ71eB0
About UFO in USA (maybe more intersting for you) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j-f3kyXJyI&mode=related&search=

Jimmy Guieu was conscious that American is much more open than French with regard to the paranormal. I believe that he liked much this country. In France, either the paranormal is made fun, or it is denied (I speak about the majority, there are fortunately more opened mind people)
A French scientist today is known enough for his research on technology MHD and the hypersonic flight. Its name is Jean-Pierre Petit (it is not me ;)). He was also interested in the mystery ummite (from Ummo)...
http://www.jp-petit.org/ Good news : The site have an english part !!!

PS : f you come to visit Bordeaux, one will drink a good beer. There is full with Irish pubs here !! ;)

[the_pale_man]

I don't know if this has been mentionned here in this thread, but WWIII is supposed to be the new TROJAN WAR, and how did the Trojan War begin? With the JUDGEMENT OF PARIS!

[pierre_jean]

I don't know if this has been mentionned here in this thread, but WWIII is supposed to be the new TROJAN WAR, and how did the Trojan War begin? With the JUDGEMENT OF PARIS!

I acknowledge I did not make the bringing together. But it is very interesting... With the fact, if one does regard the cold war as the WWIII, one is in the WWIV not? :D
But for me WWIII or IV already began the 9/11... War on terror.

[the_pale_man]

I acknowledge I did not make the bringing together. But it is very interesting... With the fact, if one does regard the cold war as the WWIII, one is in the WWIV not? :D
But for me WWIII or IV already began the 9/11... War on terror.

Actually, the Trojan War, 3,200 years ago, was the first World War. The Cold War was nothing more than mainstream b.s. to justify countless hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on tens of thousands of nuclear weapons, new types of aircraft, satellites, weapons systems, etc.... The Russian and American governments were secretly working together behind the scenes, sharing info and technology, against their own people.

[pierre_jean]

Actually, the Trojan War, 3,200 years ago, was the first World War. The Cold War was nothing more than mainstream b.s. to justify countless hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on tens of thousands of nuclear weapons, new types of aircraft, satellites, weapons systems, etc.... The Russian and American governments were secretly working together behind the scenes, sharing info and technology, against their own people.

Well considering. I agree with your analysis. But then which was the second WW?
1914/18 and 1939/45 are considered as what ?

[the_pale_man]

Well considering. I agree with your analysis. But then which was the second WW?
1914/18 and 1939/45 are considered as what ?

The first and second parts of a single war, what we know as "WWI" being nothing more than an introductory set-up to WWII. They don't want us to look back at the Trojan War as being the true WWI, because then we might have to take into account ancient history and mythology when trying to understand the present situation and the near-future.

[pierre_jean]

I've found this thread very interesting :

Sarko Wins One for the Global Elite

Now that Nicolas Sarkozy has won the French election and appears to be the favorite of the French people—who are apparently as easily brainwashed as Americans, but of course with typical if oft satirized arrogant French élan—we can expect the idea of a supranational Europe, previously rejected by the people of France, to take center stage.

The full thread :
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=859

And another info :
The VALLETTE (Reuters) - Nicolas Sarkozy arrived Monday at Malta for a "retirement" of a few days after his victory at the presidential election, whereas a part of the press vainly sought it in Corsica.

It will be oint holy oils of the knights about Malta? Or to receive the 33ième degree of the free-masons? Or being crowned emperor of France or Europe? Or to meet its controllers Zionists and British?

[celtic isis]

Celtic people we are all :D
On a purely personal basis, I regard myself initially as a citizen of humanity. The nations are factitious for me. We all are one. You spoke about incivilities in general by pointing Arabic of the finger. Attention with the too easy short cuts. Arabic is people like you and me. I know that you is not racist but recognize that to stigmatize a community is something of pervert and a way for our elites of making respect this cursed law of division "Divide and conqueer" !!!

With regard to the new world order, today there is not French Icke, unfortunately. In the Eighties, there was a man (now return with spirits) : Jimmy Guieu. Already at that time, he spoke about the CFR, the illuminatis, Bilderberg, the UFO, the vortices, mysteries and the conspiracy in general. But it was presented like funny. A little like Icke except that for that, it did not even need to say that he was a son of God :D
Here for example, a video of what it did. It is in French obviously, then good luck!
About Vortex :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKrIJ71eB0
About UFO in USA (maybe more intersting for you) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j-f3kyXJyI&mode=related&search=

Jimmy Guieu was conscious that American is much more open than French with regard to the paranormal. I believe that he liked much this country. In France, either the paranormal is made fun, or it is denied (I speak about the majority, there are fortunately more opened mind people)
A French scientist today is known enough for his research on technology MHD and the hypersonic flight. Its name is Jean-Pierre Petit (it is not me ;)). He was also interested in the mystery ummite (from Ummo)...
http://www.jp-petit.org/ Good news : The site have an english part !!!

PS : f you come to visit Bordeaux, one will drink a good beer. There is full with Irish pubs here !! ;)

salut PJ the french :D

thank you so much for al the info :)

first off, i know all about the scientist Petit, my fiancé is a fan of his, i think he even wrote to him once...i'm not sure. He was on a tv show a few weeks ago, maybe you saw it, but well, they didn't let him talk so much (surprise surprise).

Wasn't Petit contacted by aliens or some other force, he received a letter telling him some information from a really 'unknown' source, including complex calculations and Petit found it to be true...

Also, there's a famous comedian here, who died, i think, in a motorcycle accident as he was known for his passion for motorcycles...his name escapes me but i'm told he tired to do a lot of good, also fighting the NWO inhis own way, and there are suspicions around his death...

I will go look at the video links you sent in a minute, just wanted to answer you first. :)

You know, i really thought that French people were more open minded about paranormal stuff...seeing as paranormal is only nature itself, and the vast mysteries of it, which are not really so mysterious after all once you get into the esoteric side of understanding...paranormal only exists because scientists label it that way, just cause they cannot expliain it. But it is only nature. Just as i'm sure, people once thought that lightning and rainbows were paranormal too! :o

also, i know we are all one, i've always known it, ever since i was a kid it's just, well, if only the arabian people (for example) would respect us, as we try and do for them (cause we know they are us too) but they don't, they think they are above us so it's them who have the problem and also cause the problems. How can we ever have a world of peace and respect if only one part of the human race changes their point of view. it's all very well for me to be treated like dirt by an arabian (which i have many a time) if they don't return the favour then it's all one sided. For instance' one day i stepped off the path (sidewalk) to let two arabian women and their buggy with a baby in it pass, now i did this cause there was really no room otherwise with cars etc parked beside, so i stepped off the path and waited for them to pass...and all i got was a superior look from them and not even a merci!!! :rolleyes: Now i know french women could have done the same, i'm not just noticing it cause they were arabian, but i find it's mostly arabians who don't say merci, ever and give you 'that look'.

ok i'll shut up about it now but just to say, i know about divide and conquer, it's just that they have to change thier view too, and respect us for it to work at all and for us to beat this divide and conquer the elite need to rule us.

anyway, im going off topic again! i'll go look at the links you posted pierre jean and come back!

[celtic isis]

I've found this thread very interesting :

Sarko Wins One for the Global Elite

Now that Nicolas Sarkozy has won the French election and appears to be the favorite of the French people—who are apparently as easily brainwashed as Americans, but of course with typical if oft satirized arrogant French élan—we can expect the idea of a supranational Europe, previously rejected by the people of France, to take center stage.

The full thread :
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=859

And another info :
The VALLETTE (Reuters) - Nicolas Sarkozy arrived Monday at Malta for a "retirement" of a few days after his victory at the presidential election, whereas a part of the press vainly sought it in Corsica.

It will be oint holy oils of the knights about Malta? Or to receive the 33ième degree of the free-masons? Or being crowned emperor of France or Europe? Or to meet its controllers Zionists and British?

you know what i think you should be president pierre jean! You really know the score of what's going on. You're right, it does seem to be a combination of the zionists and british who have the real power...reading Icke's book Tales From the time Loop again last night, i came to the same conclusion.

You're not a communist are you Pierre Jean? My fiancé wanted me to ask you that :o

Pale Man, you haven't read the book 'Behold a Pale Horse' by any chance? Just curious.

i'm confused about WWIII and WWIV...in the book i just mentioned (who the author was murdered for after 9/11 happened cause he predicted it 10 years before from documents he saw in the government) anyway, WWIII actually begun a long time ago, and it's the war on consciousness...MIND WAR...it's basically the war against the human race by the elite, so i guess that makes WWIV the war on terror and China is meant to become involved too in the near future...i do get confused to as to which war is which, esspecially when one the people have no idea of cause it's silent and hidden behind the scenes.

[pierre_jean]

first off, i know all about the scientist Petit, my fiancé is a fan of his, i think he even wrote to him once...i'm not sure. He was on a tv show a few weeks ago, maybe you saw it, but well, they didn't let him talk so much (surprise surprise).
I did not see the emission but I read the summary which JP Petit makes on its site.It did not speak much indeed and especially the emission, like often, had tendency has to ridicule the question.

Wasn't Petit contacted by aliens or some other force, he received a letter telling him some information from a really 'unknown' source, including complex calculations and Petit found it to be true...
Yes, it is the UMMO. It was interested in the letters, found information advanced enough compared to our knowledge. But I don't know about the authenticity of the letters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummo

Also, there's a famous comedian here, who died, i think, in a motorcycle accident as he was known for his passion for motorcycles...his name escapes me but i'm told he tired to do a lot of good, also fighting the NWO inhis own way, and there are suspicions around his death...

I think that you want to speak about Coluche, which was a humorist and comedian. I do not think that it denounced the nwo but its sketches was rather corrosive. Its death is rather mysterious indeed. There is another humorist whom I adore : Pierre Desproges. Your fiancée must know him. He was the Master of black humour. He died rather young person also.
I do not say anything for your fiancée, but you could stop pricking us our beautiful Frenchwomen ;)

You know, i really thought that French people were more open minded about paranormal stuff...seeing as paranormal is only nature itself, and the vast mysteries of it, which are not really so mysterious after all once you get into the esoteric side of understanding...paranormal only exists because scientists label it that way, just cause they cannot expliain it. But it is only nature. Just as i'm sure, people once thought that lightning and rainbows were paranormal too! :o

also, i know we are all one, i've always known it, ever since i was a kid it's just, well, if only the arabian people (for example) would respect us, as we try and do for them (cause we know they are us too) but they don't, they think they are above us so it's them who have the problem and also cause the problems. How can we ever have a world of peace and respect if only one part of the human race changes their point of view. it's all very well for me to be treated like dirt by an arabian (which i have many a time) if they don't return the favour then it's all one sided. For instance' one day i stepped off the path (sidewalk) to let two arabian women and their buggy with a baby in it pass, now i did this cause there was really no room otherwise with cars etc parked beside, so i stepped off the path and waited for them to pass...and all i got was a superior look from them and not even a merci!!! :rolleyes: Now i know french women could have done the same, i'm not just noticing it cause they were arabian, but i find it's mostly arabians who don't say merci, ever and give you 'that look'.

ok i'll shut up about it now but just to say, i know about divide and conquer, it's just that they have to change thier view too, and respect us for it to work at all and for us to beat this divide and conquer the elite need to rule us.

anyway, im going off topic again! i'll go look at the links you posted pierre jean and come back!

I agree with your report on incivility and incomprehension in general. But I refuse with rejetter the fault on a category of people, even if I think that indeed, each one must put his at it.

[pierre_jean]

you know what i think you should be president pierre jean! You really know the score of what's going on. You're right, it does seem to be a combination of the zionists and british who have the real power...reading Icke's book Tales From the time Loop again last night, i came to the same conclusion.
You're not a communist are you Pierre Jean? My fiancé wanted me to ask you that :o

I laughed much by reading this question. Do the Communists still exist?
No, I'm not communist, if I were to choose a label, I will consider myself rather like an anarchist. Neither gods, nor Masters !
We are our own Masters.

Pale Man, you haven't read the book 'Behold a Pale Horse' by any chance? Just curious.
Nope. But if it exists in french, I will be intersted !


i'm confused about WWIII and WWIV...in the book i just mentioned (who the author was murdered for after 9/11 happened cause he predicted it 10 years before from documents he saw in the government) anyway, WWIII actually begun a long time ago, and it's the war on consciousness...MIND WAR...it's basically the war against the human race by the elite, so i guess that makes WWIV the war on terror and China is meant to become involved too in the near future...i do get confused to as to which war is which, esspecially when one the people have no idea of cause it's silent and hidden behind the scenes.

Yep. I don't know. I have the impression rather that humanity always was in continuous war !!

See ya !

[celtic isis]

I laughed much by reading this question. Do the Communists still exist?
No, I'm not communist, if I were to choose a label, I will consider myself rather like an anarchist. Neither gods, nor Masters !
We are our own Masters.


Nope. But if it exists in french, I will be intersted !




Yep. I don't know. I have the impression rather that humanity always was in continuous war !!

See ya !

hehe oooooooooooh your answers are too good PJ ! :D

hehe i don't know why my fiancé wanted to know if you're a communist or not :o

i knew you'd say something like that though "we are our own masters". so true! :D

also Behold a Pale Horse, i have a link where you can download it for free but well, there is another book by Cooper only in french, but to be honest, it's not as a good as Pale Horse...my fiancé's dad has it...I'll get you a link hold on :)

My avatar is the cover of the book! This is how i found out about the NWO in the first place was through reading this book.

and yes it was Coluche i was talking about! :D

thanks also for the link about the UMMO, i go look at that now too!

[celtic isis]

http://www.amazon.fr/gouvernement-secret-suivi-Op%C3%A9ration-Cheval/dp/2892392187/ref=pd_bowtega_1/171-7157468-4646664?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178885227&sr=1-1

here's cooper's other book :D

also being an anarchist, i'm sure you don't mean that there should be 'no rules', cause that's what anarchy is no? In that case, my other half thinks anarchy is worse than communism! :D

I do believe in freedom but there has to be some kind of mentors, leaders...the human race will never be clever enough not to be led i don't think...but as long as they work for us and in our interest, and we elect them and get rid of them if they don't work in our interest, and we also take rsponsibility ourselves for the planet and how it's run, then that would be a good system of government and it's funny cause people actually think this is the govermental structure/system we have in place right now!


HA HA HA HAHA HAHA HAHA ARGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

ciao JP à la prochaine :)

[pierre_jean]

also being an anarchist, i'm sure you don't mean that there should be 'no rules', cause that's what anarchy is no? In that case, my other half thinks anarchy is worse than communism! :D
I do believe in freedom but there has to be some kind of mentors, leaders...the human race will never be clever enough not to be led i don't think...but as long as they work for us and in our interest, and we elect them and get rid of them if they don't work in our interest, and we also take rsponsibility ourselves for the planet and how it's run, then that would be a good system of government and it's funny cause people actually think this is the govermental structure/system we have in place right now!

Yes I agree with your vision of real anarchist : It's not simply "no rules" but with responsability as you said in the last paragraph. All the political systems are worth, all depends on the intentions and the total project of the company.

HA HA HA HAHA HAHA HAHA ARGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Is it your new battle song or is it your girlfriend who tickles you? :D

Ciao !

[celtic isis]

Yes I agree with your vision of real anarchist : It's not simply "no rules" but with responsability as you said in the last paragraph. All the political systems are worth, all depends on the intentions and the total project of the company.



Is it your new battle song or is it your girlfriend who tickles you? :D

Ciao !

hehe PJ :D

My battle song lol, no i was laughing at people in general being conned thinking that democracy actually exists, and that our governments are made up of good, well rounded individuals, who do not pledge first alligences to dark occult secret society endeavours...and that we ought to respect our world leaders cause they set such a wonderful example of peace and harmony, caring about your brother to all of us...despite the fact they waste no opportunity to wage a war on innocent people in the name of fighting the terror they have themselves created...that's what my hahahaha argh was about lol

Forgive me, i'm not fully up on the whole icke freedom thing, i don't have a girlfriend to tickle me and i wouldn't want one cause i'm a not a lesbian lol or bi for that matter either :D I'm a one man woman :D

i can't believe i'm having this conversation. :D

lol

[pierre_jean]

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4484/h4ill812421sarkozybushlb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

On this image, one sees two things : Sarkozy is almost as tall as Bush. Does the character on the right seem to look in bottom, can be a stool? In any case, it is the official photograph by Washington.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8350/sarkozypetitsaufavecdiemt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Besides that, they are not manipulators :D

[celtic isis]

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4484/h4ill812421sarkozybushlb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

On this image, one sees two things : Sarkozy is almost as tall as Bush. Does the character on the right seem to look in bottom, can be a stool? In any case, it is the official photograph by Washington.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8350/sarkozypetitsaufavecdiemt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Besides that, they are not manipulators :D

haha! yaaaaaaaaaaay you're back!!!!!:D

interesting pics eh ;) they're looking pretty friendly these days though sarkozy is about as genuine as a conman lol :D

[pierre_jean]

Conman ? I don't know this word :confused:

[celtic isis]

Conman ? I don't know this word :confused:

hehe sorry PJ, and i don't know the french word...let me think...

i'll ask my oh and get back to you!

[pierre_jean]

A little fake made by me ;)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4939/smithsarkofn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[celtic isis]

A little fake made by me ;)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4939/smithsarkofn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hehe :D

i love your avatar too by the way PJ!

[pierre_jean]

hehe :D

i love your avatar too by the way PJ!

Thanks mon poussin,
I made a few fakes like that... The game is : Can you recognize them ?
(it's easy ;))

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3142/greyzmp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[celtic isis]

Thanks mon poussin,
I made a few fakes like that... The game is : Can you recognize them ?
(it's easy ;))

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3142/greyzmp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

haha! they're fantastic! :D ouch i'll come back and see if i can recognise... just wanted to hop on and tell you what a "conman" is in french :)

apparently it's - arnaqueur :D j'espère :D

[pierre_jean]

haha! they're fantastic! :D ouch i'll come back and see if i can recognise... just wanted to hop on and tell you what a "conman" is in french :)

apparently it's - arnaqueur :D j'espère :D

Oh merci pour la précision... arnaqueur... Oui, cela convient parfaitement :D

J'adore ton avatar !!! :p

[pierre_jean]

Welcome in the club, Mr. Sarkozy :D


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9118/sarkozyaq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6264/sarkozysigne2pp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[celtic isis]

Oh merci pour la précision... arnaqueur... Oui, cela convient parfaitement :D

J'adore ton avatar !!! :p

hey i had that avatar you have now before i changed to this one! :D

[celtic isis]

Welcome in the club, Mr. Sarkozy :D


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9118/sarkozyaq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6264/sarkozysigne2pp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


OH MON DIEU!!!!


:eek:

merci beaucoup PJ pour les photos!

[pierre_jean]

“I address myself to the conscience of all those which have a responsibility in control for the businesses for the world. Because if not, the poor and exploited will revolt one day against the injustice which is made to them”

“In the name of France, I invite all the States to meet to base a new world order of XXIe century on this strong idea that the community properties of humanity must be placed under the responsibility of very whole humanity”
“It is of a new frame of mind which the world needs, it is true New Deal with the planetary scales which are necessary, New Deal ecological and economic.”

N. Sarkozy, New York,9/25/2007

[celtic isis]

“I address myself to the conscience of all those which have a responsibility in control for the businesses for the world. Because if not, the poor and exploited will revolt one day against the injustice which is made to them”

“In the name of France, I invite all the States to meet to base a new world order of XXIe century on this strong idea that the community properties of humanity must be placed under the responsibility of very whole humanity”
“It is of a new frame of mind which the world needs, it is true New Deal with the planetary scales which are necessary, New Deal ecological and economic.”

N. Sarkozy, New York,9/25/2007

c'est pas vrai! il a dit ca! vraiment? le batard! :eek:

[celtic isis]

Oh merci pour la précision... arnaqueur... Oui, cela convient parfaitement :D

J'adore ton avatar !!! :p

hahaha you're been bitten by the southpark avatar bug too my friend! :D

j'ai vu le speech de Sarkozy hier :eek: sur canal plus "Zapping" tu connais?

grrrrrr sarkozy :mad:

yep sarkozy talking all about the new world order in his speech shocking.

[celtic isis]

c'est pas vrai! il a dit ca! vraiment? le batard! :eek:

Originally Posted by pierre_jean
“I address myself to the conscience of all those which have a responsibility in control for the businesses for the world. Because if not, the poor and exploited will revolt one day against the injustice which is made to them”

“In the name of France, I invite all the States to meet to base a new world order of XXIe century on this strong idea that the community properties of humanity must be placed under the responsibility of very whole humanity”
“It is of a new frame of mind which the world needs, it is true New Deal with the planetary scales which are necessary, New Deal ecological and economic.”

N. Sarkozy, New York,9/25/2007




oui c'est vrai il a dit exactement ca!

yep he said exactly that! :eek:

[pierre_jean]

hahaha you're been bitten by the southpark avatar bug too my friend! :D

j'ai vu le speech de Sarkozy hier :eek: sur canal plus "Zapping" tu connais?

grrrrrr sarkozy :mad:

yep sarkozy talking all about the new world order in his speech shocking.

"Le zapping" oui c'est toujours intéressant, c'est un concentré de toute la semaine... Ce discours ressemble vraiment à un signal (un de plus) donné à l'ensemble des chefs de cette planète. Vous vous conformez à notre ordre ou c'est la fin pour vous... Enfin je vois ça comme ça
En France, le choix a apparamment été déjà fait... Beurk
ça va sinon ? :D

Ps : Tu crois qu'ils pensent qu'on complote si on parle français ? :D

[edelweiss pirate]

hehe! c'est marrant.....

On ne mijotes que les moules...